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I know 2000AD has put out several comics like Judge Dredd and Metal Hurlant is famous, but what are some of the other good comics put out from across the ponds. Burger here with a real interest in reading some.
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No.1043130
>>1043096
It has anti-sound magic.
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No.1043242
I can recommend Requiem: Vampire Knight.
It's metal (and hilariously edgy) as hell, but doesn't take itself seriously.
I was thinking about storytiming a few of the books here, maybe I'll finally get to it next year.
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No.1043256
Never liked eurotrash. 99% is traced with lower budget look. American comics are same thing now though.
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No.1043258
>>1043256
>Never liked eurotrash. 99% is traced with lower budget look
Any examples of that?
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No.1045479
>>1000652
After looking at Stern on Comixology, Undertaker was one of the recommended titles. I checked it out of curiosity to see how similar could two books about undertaker in Wild West get.
Only thing they have in common is the protagonist's trade. Other than that, books are very different, to the point of being opposites in certain aspects.
In Undertaker, Jonas Crow is a traveling undertaker with a mean sense of humor. He has a dark past, a pet vulture, and likes to cite made up bible passages. Crow is primarily concerned with cash, but once in a while his curiosity or sense of obligation take over. Book can get pretty gritty and edgy, but it never goes too far and leaves some things to reader's imagination. Occasionally, it veers into old-fashioned Hollywood movie territory, but this happens about once per volume. There are four volumes, that make two story arcs. In the first one, Crow is trying to bury a rich gold miner, who demanded to be laid to rest in his first gold mine. In the second story, Crow is tracking down a man from his past to make up for a mistake form his past.
Art is excellent, wiring is overall good to very good, character are good and play off of each other very well. Even female characters; author manages to write them as competent, but without making them into bitches and Mary Sues. They are still wrong, they get physically and mentally hurt, die, and make mistakes. There are certain things about wild west that an English woman and an old Chinese female servant have difficulties dealing with that men don't wince. However, they also have their own strengths.
My only complaint is that there are a few instances of modern colloquialism used, but they are not as obvious as those in Stern.
I put all volumes on our vola and mega. I might storytime it sometime next week as well.
https://volafile.org/r/kVIkT3
https://mega.nz/#F!HVo3BQ5Y!NBe3mwXjYUiEMWdj0PqiVw
>>1042614
Apparently only 2 volumes were released so far.
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No.1045507
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No.1045758
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No.1049392
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No.1049456
>>1042373
>Violent psycopath kid doing psychopath stuff
That makes it sound like Squee and that other shit from the 2000's "cutsie edgelordery" phase. Dennis The Menace (and many other Beano Characters) was more about a kid who plays pranks, but they are taken to cartoonishly ludicrous extremes. In one early strip of his (from the 50's, The Beano itself is an anthology that started in 1938) he gets bored with the bumper cars, so steals one, puts the engine from his dad's car in it, and goes "hunting" at a big motor show, demolishes everything and complains that nobody wants to play with him.
Also in addition to making the stories like you said, I swear they've gender-swapped his friend Pie Face (hey, Archie has "Jughead", roll with it). That or they've made Pie Face adopt the androgynous fashion males had circa 2006, over a decade too late, which wouldn't surprise me. I stoppef getting the beano partly because I was growing out of it anyway, but also partly because at some point in the late 90's it stopped being it's own thing (which, much like Archie, was set in an eternal 1950's with a few odd nods to modernity) and started chasing "youth trends" , referencing them months or years too late. Kids can see straight through that shit. I really doubt it's going to survive the twenties, let alone reach it's 100th birthday.
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No.1049458
>Michel Vaillant
It's basically the reason Europe has grown to love F1 Racing.
First appearing in Tintin comics, he has become a separate cultural icon here in Europe.
Basically, the role model of every Racing Division in Europe. Going so far as to get referenced in the 2017 FIA Endurance Championship.
The comic is known for it's realism, at least most of it.
English versions are very hard to find, but it's fantastic non-the-less. Although Michel himself is a very Flat Character, it's worth for the racing itself.
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No.1049483
Here, /co/. Have some Euro smut.
>Bastien Vivès - The Melons of Wrath (2011) (Scanlation).cbz
https://www111.zippyshare.com/v/v0P9taUN/file.html
>Bastien Vivès - The Mental Discharge (2018) (Scanlation).cbz
https://www111.zippyshare.com/v/6sSBqbOE/file.html
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No.1049890
>>1041120
My old man is a big fan of that one. I grew up reading his Tintin albums and the Scandinavian The Phantom comics which also featured Thorgal and Largo Winch.
The only other 'superhero' comic I read was PKNA.
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No.1049922
>>1049890
From where are the PKNA comics? Are they seperate issues from the large books? I know someone who really wants to read them.
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No.1049932
>>1041120
>>1049890
Thank you for remind me that I need to finish reading it.
>>1049922
>Are they seperate issues from the large books?
Yes. PKNA and the sequel PK2 were published separately in their on books, with the third series (fourth if you take into account the unanimously hated reboot) PKNE it was published on the Topolino magazine.
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No.1049936
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No.1049972
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No.1053719
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No.1053900
>>1053719
I see your at it again Carlos.
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No.1053901
>>1053900
You mean
>I see you're a tit again, Carlos.
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No.1054233
>Cold Sun
A good and pretty original post apocalyptic survival story. For a change, it is set in near future Europe, after world was devastated by a severe epidemic. Protagonist is a former law enforcement/military who is traversing Switzerland and France in search of a place safe from the plague and people pursuing him. He is accompanies by a quadruped robot, similar to ones created by DARPA.
Other interesting things about the book are:
>Google is one of the antagonists
>No 'diversity'
>Tan people only start appearing as the protagonist gets closer to Spain
Art is good, but it's very good when it comes to landscapes and machinery.
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No.1054596
I love the Doctor Who comics produced from the 70's through to the 90's. Very 2000AD. They shared a lot of talent.
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No.1055958
poster from Spirou n°3500, drawn by Olivier Saive
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No.1055959
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No.1056030
>>1055959
How big was the physical thing.
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No.1056050
>>1056030
Pretty damn big, I'm guessing.
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No.1056051
>>1056030
I'd reckon it was UUUU size.
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No.1056054
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No.1059157
Hey, does anyone know what's going on with this book? Is it ever actually coming out? Been watching it on Amazon for over a year, and it's always a couple of months away from release.
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No.1059186
>>1059157
#293 is finally coming this week after almost a year
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No.1061322
so, currently whats new or in when it comes to current eurocomics?
i mean as if this last couple of years.
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No.1061338
>>1061322
Quite a few recommended comics in this thread are actually currently ‘ongoing’ French comics. Requiem, Cold Sun, Undertaker, Ekho, Lastman, Les Sisters, Dark Moon Chronicles, and quite a few other are just some examples. I do not know enough to properly deduce any trends, but market seems to lean more towards Fantasy today, while it used to be more science fiction oriented in the past. Some new 'art style genres' are also emerging, 'loose' and rough digital artwork is probably the newest one.
As far as big sellers go, old juggernauts like Asterix, Lucky Luke, Thorgal and so on are still going strong.
I did come across few articles saying that Marvel and DC comics are gaining attention in France due to movies, but they are still a small fraction of the market, dwarfed by European albums and manga. Having said that, capeshit titles are growing pretty fast, unfortunately. I am afraid that if they grow too big, French comic book market will be ruined. Another alarming sign is the market share decline suffered by traditional Franco Belgian books - especially established ones like Asterix. However, share loss might be caused by an overall growth of the comic book market in France - it's just that new readers are children and capefags.
<Some information I stumbled across at random:
Requiem apparently recently had surge in sales. According to Pat Mills it is in part thanks to a French youtuber who made a video about the comics.
http://archive.is/if48v
Patt Mills is fighting with Rebellion (2000 AD's current owner) over royalty payments. Mills claims that he and involved artists are not fairly compensated.
http://archive.is/mlqLZ
Asterix is going to be 60 years old this October. There will be special material released to celebrate it. It seems like there might even be a special album with multiple creators contributing to it. Nob and Barbucci posted snippets of the pages they were working on and there are surely other artists working on their portions as well.
There is not that Much information on non-Franco-Belgian comics. More and more Spanish and Polish comics and creators end up in France. Italian comics seem to be dominated by cowboys and action, but some new publishers emerged and there is a strong influence of Manga and French comics on newer titles. 2000AD is still chugging along, and Pat Mills is working on new anthology for all ages. It is called Space Warp and they are looking for artists right now. millsverse.com/spacewarp/. Artist and co-creator of Blacksad is working on art for an adventure comic about Spanish sailors and smugglers from 17th century. It is supposed to be a sequel/successor to El Buscon. The Book is called 'Les Indes Fourbes' or 'The Deceitful Indies' in English. That's where pictures are from.
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No.1066742
Does anyone know any good crime fiction comics?
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No.1067326
>>1066742
Torpedo by Abuli & Bernet.
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No.1067327
>>1066742
Blacksad, Ken Games, Tebori, Stern are crime books. There were all recommended in this thread already.
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No.1067580
>>1043242
I think we did have some storytime here once. Anyway, looking forward to when you do.
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No.1067651
>>1049932
>it was published on the Topolino magazine.
Wrong, PK had its own comic format, with much bigger pages (like a marvel more or less). Style was much more experimental with cages. Many characters were memorable. It was shut down because Disney didn't like its main characters used in a almost mature superhero world.
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No.1067653
>>1067651
I was talking about New Era, the revival that they did after they cancelled the series.
>It was shut down because Disney didn't like its main characters used in a almost mature superhero world.
You can also blame the fact that after the original run was over any other attempt to keep the series alive was meet with mixed to bad feelings from the fanbase which ended culminating in the disastrous reboot that put PK to sleep for a good time
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No.1067654
>>1067651
>>1067651
Disney gives their European cartoonists a lot more leeway with what they can do, they just got too much shit for the revivals and moved Paperinik back to the pocket books.
Btw, have you guys read the Loisel Mickey BD that came out a couple years ago? I thought it was pretty good.
>bedetheque.com/BD-Mickey-collection-Disney-Glenat-Tome-4-Cafe-Zombo-289957.html
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No.1071327
I did some reading during few months of downtime and found three decent books.
>The revenge of Count Skarbek
It's a great story, especially if you like Dumas, Hugo, and other French writers from that period. It is about an impoverished Polish nobleman who used to live in Paris but was forced to leave. He is back years later with a ton of money, ready to have his revenge, and to set the record straight. It is mainly a revenge tale, but contains a blend of courtroom drama, swashbuckling adventure, political intrigue, crime mystery, romance, and action. Courtroom case is used as a framing device for past and recent events.
Art is very good overall, although some panels appear a bit rushed. All of it is painted, and Rosinski manages to avoid common pitfalls of stiff panels. I do not know why, but many artists have especially hard time handling action scenes when painting. Other than that, he makes panels of talking heads very varied and expressive, so courtroom scenes do not get boring to look at.
>Castle in the Starts
Pretty good fantasy story set in 19th century with some science-fantasy elements. The protagonist is a son of french inventors who discover secret of harnessing aether energy (it basically allows gravity manipulation), which would allow flight without balloons and interstellar travel. His mother perishes in one of the experiments and father stops the research. Years later father is finally convinced by possibly insane Ludwig II of Bavaria to build an aether ship from him. Prussians are the villains, who attempt to steal the secret of harnessing aether to help with conquest of Bavaria, and then the world and other planets. Story starts falling apart a bit in the third volume, but it's not bad. It's just that too much ends up hinging on the kids and their decisions.
Artwork is a mixture of classic manga, Ghibli, and European comics. It's pencils and watercolor, and the artist is equally good at grasping characters, machinery, and architecture. Very good overall.
>The Adventures of Jerome Katzmeier - The Walls Have Teeth
It's just an absurd, surreal comedy. Paris is a jungle where salesmen are tigers, sharks live in walls, and people eat mammoth chops for dinner. Jerome Katzmeier's son ends up eaten by a wall-shark, so Jerome embarks on a journey to get his kid back. Not much else to say, it's just wacky and humorous, with some interesting visual gags. Art is terrific and a perfect fit for the story. Not all jokes land, but I assume that some humor was lost in translation - as it usually tends to happen.
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No.1071366
Coming in March:
>Bastien Vivès gives us his first thriller.
>When Jimmy, a young policeman, meets Vincent, a painter who has just lost his wife in a bomb attack, he decides to take his daughter Lisa and himself under his wing. But can we save people in spite of themselves? And to what extent is it necessarily fair to want to play the vigilante?
>In this contemporary thriller, Bastien Vivès and Martin Quenehen portray confused characters who are trying to give meaning to their existence in a traumatized France, both paranoid and divided.
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No.1071367
>>1071366
>>Bastien Vivès
So, are Jimmy and Vinny gonna bang the daughter?
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No.1071369
>>1071367
We won't know until the book comes out.
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No.1071435
>>980906
>Best European Comics
Dorfs
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No.1071436
>>1071366
> But can we save people in spite of themselves?
No.
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No.1071468
>>1071436
Truly, we live in a society.
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No.1071474
>>1071435
Can't help but notice a distinct lack of facial hair
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No.1071525
>>1071474
Different dwarves star in every issue. Men, women, bearded and otherwise. It's great.
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No.1071531
>>1071525
>Dwarves ever lacking beards
>Great
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No.1071548
>>1071531
Nigger, YOU try working a forge all day without getting your beard burned off by a stray spark.
Besides, the example I posted is, if I remember correctly, a young, edgelord dwarf who shaves as some sort of fuck you to the old dwarves due to his being treated like shit for being a congenital fuckup. Like a young jew trimming his curly things to piss off the elders of zion traditional jews.
If you're an aficionado of little men with giant axes, I highly recommend it.
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No.1074352
Not yet ripped: "Mal Tournée !" (Bad Turn)
>Daphne wakes up after a monumental bender. But no time to gather all her memories, she has an important meeting to attend. Except that when she gets out of the house, she quickly realizes that something is wrong: everything that reminds her of sex from near or far materializes before her eyes! And bad luck, she has a badly turned mind… Very badly turned. Whether it's a slit that turns into a vulva, a pole into a penis, or a grandmother's two-way phrase into a torrid embrace, her entire environment seems to have turned into a psychedelic adult film straight out of a disturbed brain. Between excitement and incomprehension, Daphne will have to survive her day and try to understand where this strange illness comes from…
>The "Porn'Pop" collection is enriched by a new original, whimsical and sensual one-shot, concocted by a trio of French authors: Clotilde Bruneau for the script, Isa Python for the drawing and Scarlett for the colour. A free and daring comedy that puts all fantasies in the spotlight, revisiting Sigmund Freud's libido in a pop sauce.
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