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<BOARD RULES>
You're still here? The show's over....

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 No.1073425

http://archive.is/kiBN0

From what I hear, Diamond's got basically a monopoly on distribution right? How much damage is Corona-chan gonna cause the market?

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 No.1073427

Hopefully total collapse

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 No.1073436

File: c5e8f4227201a45⋯.jpg (180.32 KB,1024x680,128:85,intotheburnpititgoes.jpg)

So this is how the American comic book industry dies. Huh, I expected the black horse, not the white one.

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 No.1073444

Frankly this is a blessing. Under normal circumstances, the kikes in this industry would never have let it die naturally, continuing on in the zombie state it has for years where even the best efforts of cuckold writers like the New Warriors rebooters won't do any lasting damage. Corona forcing Diamond to shut down for even a little while will cripple this sinking ship.

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 No.1073448

>>1073444

This shutdown of businesses & isolation keeping people indoors means the comic shops are on life support. The plugs will be pulled soon. I feel bad a lot of people will be outta jobs but it's a necessary sacrifice when there's no incentive to keep these businesses open. DC & Marvel have fucked the industry from the onset. They've sucked away all creative variety & wasted talented people on stories that don't matter. Let it all die.

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 No.1073449

File: bfe1ccb0263f46a⋯.gif (2.59 MB,500x280,25:14,Evolution_laugh.gif)

>>1073444

>>1073448

The real show will begin once the lockdown ends. Some customers might not return and other might take their time. There will be people:

>realizing that they they do not care whether they read the latest X-Men issue and finally drop their capeshit habit

>picking up foreign or older books and abandoning or at least cutting down on modern American comic books - especially disastrous if they realize how shit modern comics are and start to advocate for older and foreign books

>moving on to another hobby

>who like extra money more than weekly floppies

>who lost their jobs are can't afford weekly comics

A lot stores could go under, diamond will be at least crippled, capeshit might lose some of the market share, and floppies might die. Marvel and DC would probably be better off mailing books and giving a cut to comic book stores. Indie companies like Black Mask are doing something like that already.

There is also a possibility of new creators and companies breaking into the market by taking advantage of the drought of new content, creating more competition. However, that's not too likely to happen.

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 No.1073451

>>1073449

>picking up foreign or older books and abandoning or at least cutting down on modern American comic books - especially disastrous if they realize how shit modern comics are and start to advocate for older and foreign books

Sounds too optimistic, at least on the "older books" bit. Manga might be trendy these days among leddit """"""""""nerds""""""" but most fags of their ilk don't really move outside the comfort zone of what's shilled to them, let alone actively seek old shit (and that's assuming they aren't the normalfags who only care about movies and nothing else). You think people cared about Devilman until (((Netflix))) got their hands on it?

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 No.1073453

>>1073436

>black horse

Like Darkhorse?

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 No.1073475

File: 90fa9c1ca7b2d11⋯.png (864.93 KB,1012x890,506:445,1585262578687.png)

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>>1073453

Dark Horse just paused there comics both physical and digital. They also told their authors to stop working.

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 No.1073476

Seems unlikely since no one wants em but do you think comic collections could become super valuable after this?

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 No.1073526

>>1073475

What's the difficulty to move to digital? Indie comics have used the webcomic/amazon model for a while now.

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 No.1073541

>>1073526

Digital never sells well when there's physical books. With big two comics & even most indie companies there's nothing worth reading anyway. Meaning digital won't have any sort of boom regardless of physical releases being cancelled. Most people would rather read manga.

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 No.1073557

Diamond might be fucked.

DC Exploring 'Multi-Distributor Model' to Deal with Coronavirus Crisis

http://archive.is/FUc7o

From DC's release to distributors

>DC is exploring a multi-distributor model to provide us with the flexibility needed during this crisis to get new content to our readers on an ongoing basis.

>In the short-term, we continue to engage in active conversations with Diamond to help us solve the distribution issues that have arisen and hope to get new product to stores that want or need it as soon as possible.

>We will provide additional information about how we’ll make that happen in the coming days.

Other information:

>DC is already confirmed to be releasing some new material - such as the Gotham High OGN - through its booktrade distributor Penguin Random House in April.

>Direct Market retailers have the option - as they did prior to the coronavirus pandemic - to order trade paperback and hardcovers through these booktrade distribution channels.

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 No.1073559

>>1073557

>diamond might be fucked

Good

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 No.1073566

>>1073541

They've been saying for years that digital is selling gangbusters, but never releasing the numbers. I think now there's a quiet acceptance that, actually, it isn't.

They also say they're selling loads of the "woke" books to scholastic and libraries… hey, guess what other places are closed?

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 No.1073582

>>1073541

>>1073566

On the other hand, you have publishers that only put out digital comics. French comic publishers are running their own comixology stores, so at the very least digital can be profitable.

Still, in case of Marvel and DC, floppies most likely make them the most money as far as comic book sales are concerned. TPBs are next, especially for DC as they have a lot of evergreen books.

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 No.1073591

>>1073566

There's been rumors digital hasn't been meeting expectations.

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 No.1073615

>>1073591

Garbage is still garbage no matter if it's sold printed or digital.

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 No.1073655

>>1073615

They should also stop charging the same high prices as a fucking floppy.

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 No.1073683

>>1073557

Looks like they're doubling down and withholding payments.

http://archive.md/tquhk

>The unfortunate truth is that we are no longer receiving consistent payments from our customers," Stan Heidmann, president of Diamond parent company Geppi Family Enterprises, explained in a letter to venders, which include comics publishers and pop culture manufacturers of toys

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 No.1073702

>>1073615

You'd think the people who still enjoy this trash would pay for both digtial and physical but its appearing that theyre most interested in physical books for whatever reason.

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 No.1073766

>>1073702

It's the collectors appeal, and the fact reading a digital comic on a computer still isn't as great as a good tpb.

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 No.1073767

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 No.1073778

http://archive.vn/qAQlW

Looks like Lion Forge is the first victim. All staff laid off.

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 No.1073790

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>>1073591

>>1073582

>>1073566

There were actual numbers released for 2018 (http://archive.is/hyKwS), and they were compiled using both bookscan and diamond data. Breakdown by revenue is:

>graphic novels - $635M

>comic books - $360M

>digital - $100M

Graphic novels generate the most money, although a lot of it is likely due to manga and possibly scholastic. As far as sales channels go, comic book stores still generate the most money, but bookstores almost caught up to them. Digital is miniscule and stagnant by comparison. This could be in part because digital comics often go on massive sales or are included in subscription services.

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 No.1073791

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 No.1073808

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

PENCILS DOWN at Marvel Comics! Comic Book Industry Goes INSANE!

>Disney-owned Marvel Comics has just ordered "pencils down" for 1/3 of their freelancers. Then we talk about ComicHub flopped before it even started, how Marvel creators think Hollywood should bail out the comics industry, and a comics retailer's unhinged rant against EVS.

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 No.1073830

>>1073808

The mouse is totally going to cut the comics division.

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 No.1073860

>>1073790

Are manga labeled under graphic novels, Ive been hearing inconsistent things about how people label them.

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 No.1073867

>IDW's TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES Stopping With #105

Looks like IDW is going to cancel a couple of its series. Anyone read their run of TMNT?

https://archive.is/9RwBF

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 No.1073869

>>1073867

I did. It loses steam after Shredder dies. Then a tranny writer shoved in an OC 5th turtle mutated from a bulldyke looking foot ninja.

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 No.1073875

>>1073869

>5th turtle

I wish they would stop trying this. I've never seen it done well outside of Slash in 2012.

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 No.1073876

>>1073875

IDW had Slash but he died. In the most metal way possible at least. Sacrificing himself because he was implanted with a nuclear bomb. Dived of a aircraft into the ocean to avoid killing anyone.

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 No.1073880

>>1073425

There's more news. Image fired four people due to Corona virus issues.

http://archive.is/wip/k3GKW

Image's staff is not at 20 people.

>>1073869

>5th turtle

Didn't they try that already and failed with Venus? I don't even think she made it out of the live action series to other media.

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 No.1073890

File: f68a608f6a4e19d⋯.png (699.05 KB,735x837,245:279,ClipboardImage.png)

http://archive.md/NUxSd

>Marvel Entertainment is immediately "pausing" work on - and the release of - approximately one-third of its May and June comic book issues, a spokesperson confirmed for Newsarama. Marvel's representative said 15 to 20% of its solicited titles would be affected, as some of them are twice-monthly in May and June.

>The decision to pause work on the affected titles, according to the spokesperson, is "to help spread the amount of publishing product over the coming weeks and months."

>Asked when the publisher intends to resume publishing the issues not affected by the pause, the Marvel spokesperson said "as soon as more information is available, we will outline our longer-term plans."

Marvel began telling creators involved with the suspended titles of this decision Friday, and the company spokesperson re-assured Newsarama that "all talent will be paid for their work to date."

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 No.1073891

>>1073790

The other factor with comic shops, is that they can't return unsold comics. So the publishers make more money this way then selling direct to customers.

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 No.1073965

>>1073890

They wont pay anyone.

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 No.1074041

File: 097471eb03cf5b0⋯.png (416.51 KB,781x902,71:82,hZjDW3c_1_.png)

File: c0f2b3b5fd53b31⋯.png (788.16 KB,703x774,703:774,5li6mTT_1_.png)

http://archive.md/0jAEO

>Geppi Family Enterprises, the parent company of Diamond Comic Distributors, announced Monday it is furloughing some employees as a means to "protect our company’s financial future and preserve jobs."

>Beginning Monday, all impacted workers currently enrolled in a company health/benefit play will continue to receive coverage, with Geppi Family Enterprises paying 100% of the premium during the furlough.

>Diamond suspended receiving new products for distribution as of April 1 and initially suspended payments to its vendors but shortly after announced a weekly 25% payment schedule with 75% deferred payments to follow.

http://archive.vn/iBjrI

>Venom writer Donny Cates agreed to purchase the entirety of Austin, Texas comic retailer Austin Books & Comics' outstanding customer pull lists, which have been placed on hold due to coronavirus.

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 No.1074043

File: 8cf2bfbf5cf9022⋯.jpg (345.67 KB,716x929,716:929,1586973593869_1_.jpg)

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 No.1074478

File: 13f430b69af543b⋯.png (154.84 KB,2876x1312,719:328,Indiegogo_vs_Kickstarter.png)

So, which direction are creators going to get their projects off the ground since the major publishers are about to collapse?

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