No.1063492 [Last50 Posts]
Why is he such an edgelord?
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No.1063493
because he lives on the edge
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No.1063499
Because it's cool and different. You don't see much grounded, gritty and dark stuff in Marvel like him.
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No.1063504
>>1063492
because he's the pinnacle of an antihero; a villain on the heroes' side
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No.1063506
>>1063504
>pinnacle
He's a knockoff of Charles Bronson's character from Death Wish mixed with Rambo. It's not Don Quixote.
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No.1063509
>>1063492
He came from a spiderman comic so he has to be edgy to show everyone how serious he is. He's like miley cyrus
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No.1063512
>>1063509
Wait how is Miley Cyrus considered edgy?
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No.1063515
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No.1063516
>>1063515
I personally consider that to be attention whore cringe. I thought edgy was more like a school shooter type of thing.
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No.1063517
>>1063516
The Punisher saying "There's times I'd like to get my hands on God" is just as try hard, only in a pimply faced angsty teenager way instead of a disease ridden vacuous whore way. Therefore Miley Cyrus is the Punisher and the Punisher is Miley Cyrus. They are one.
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No.1063518
>>1063517
It's a figure of speech meant to represent his frustration/disgust for the things he's witnessed. Chill out.
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No.1063519
>>1063518
No it isn't and you know it isn't. Punisher Cyrus is so edgy xe's going to give his strapon gun to god himself. And you like it.
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No.1063520
>>1063517
I don't think he's even a teenager.
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No.1063522
>>1063519
OP, I'm so sorry, you're going to think this is an insult but I have to say it: You aren't as smart as you think you are.
You have a perception of your own intellectual ability that is greater than reality, and that's a difficult place to be.
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No.1063528
>>1063517
Where did the Punisher touch you, Anon. Most people when they say something is shit just say it’s shit, they don’t waste time mincing words by making up analogies, you seem to have a grudge.
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No.1063529
>>1063522
I'm not OP
>>1063528
jealous?
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No.1063552
>>1063529
(((White))) identity maybe
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No.1063553
>>1063492
Because killing is criminals is supposed to be wrongthink, Punisher has to be cheesy edgelord if he was more stoic and mature he'd set the "wrong" example.
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No.1063573
>>1063492
>Why is he such an edgelord?
That's the whole point. He's a man who saw his family murdered. He's what it would look like if someone hyper competent decided to be a vigilante in the modern world.
>>1063517
>The Punisher saying "There's times I'd like to get my hands on God" is just as try hard
I mean there's a lot of fucked up shit happens because of "God." It's a pretty normal sort of way to feel. There's a whole subset of fiction that's man vs god. Shit, somebody once said "If there is a god he'll have to beg for my forgiveness."
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No.1063579
>>1063573
>I mean there's a lot of fucked up shit happens because of "God."
Allot of bad things happen because of Miley Cyrus, and if you're a criminal bad things happen because of the Punisher. Coincidence?
>It's a pretty normal sort of way to feel.
If you're an atheist you're mad at something you claim doesn't exist which is absurd. If you're not then you're adverse to your own diety which is pointless, edgy and cringe. Either way we come full circle to tyring too hard as Miley Cyrus and the Punisher both do. Coincidence?
>There's a whole subset of fiction that's man vs god.
Published by Jews I bet. Come to think of it, the Punisher is published by Jews, and Miley Cyrus's material is released by Jews. Coincidence?
>If there is a god he'll have to beg for my forgiveness.
Who said that? Miley Cyrus or the Punisher, … or did they both?
Miley Cyrus is the Punisher.
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No.1063588
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No.1063589
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>>1063492
>>1063493
>>1063515
Chad shadow
>Kills criminal, degenerates, communists, fascists and drug addicts on a mission to make the world better for decent folk
>Train himself to master illusions and the Easter martial arts
>Devout Christian-Buddhist hybrid
>Has a lot of agents and friends that support and love him
>Cares about his friends and agents
The Virgin punisher
>just a marine
>Dead family and push away friends
>uses people as tools
>Kills criminals just because he angry
>Edgy militant atheist even though he lives in a universe that has ghosts, demons, gods, angels as public figures
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No.1063590
>>1063589
I’m still waiting for someone to make the chad Phantom vs virgin black panther meme. The phantom literally done more for black Africans than the black panther.
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No.1063592
>>1063512
I meant the whole trying to distance herself from hannah montanna
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No.1063593
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>>1063589
>>Devout Christian-Buddhist hybrid
That’s actually one of the ways to tell if a writer knows Jack shit about actually pulp era heroes than what hipsters think pulp stories were. Anti-hero barely existed around that time. Most pulp heroes were religious and spiritual. The Phantom has always been a Catholic that wears a ring made from the metal of the nails that crucified Jesus Christ. Which he uses to brand criminal he spares to remind that There still time to repent from wicked ways.( the phantom try to only kill criminals that are beyond saving) Conan in the pulp believed in honor and living by the code of his god Crom. Salomon Kane a Lovecraftian character who a Puritan that kills vampires and literal cosmic horrors.
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No.1063594
>>1063593
>>1063589
Where did this whole pulp character means edgy atheist came from? Private detective are rare in actual noir films.
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No.1063596
>>1063593
Speaking of reinventing old comic characters. This aesthetic looks familiar.
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No.1063601
>>1063596
Bob Kane wasn’t subtle about ripping off popular and lesser known pulps
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No.1063602
>>1063601
Damn I thought it was just the Shadow he ripped off.
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No.1063603
>>1063602
There a bay theme pulp character called the bat that pre-dates Batman.
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No.1063604
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>>1063602
>Damn I thought it was just the Shadow he ripped off
Batman symbol and name themselves are rip are rip offs of the black bat.
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No.1063615
>>1063594
It probably comes from dumb people who project their own beliefs onto the past, without trying to understand it. They see a gun-wielding vigilante who kills criminals, so they assume he is a non-believing edgelord.
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No.1063618
>>1063615
Or maybe they just thought atheism or general disinterest in religion would be appropriate for a character who murders people on a regular basis?
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No.1063620
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>>1063618
The religious murderer version is at least 74.6% edgier than the edgy atheist version. You just can't edgelord this hard without divine inspiration.
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No.1063627
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>>1063618
>>1063615
>>1063620
This discussion Remind me how Boondocks saints was pitched as a subversive action movie with themes of anti-vigilantism, anti-toxic masculinity and anti-religion. It ended up making all three of those things look cool. Especially Catholicism.
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No.1063640
>>1063627
>cool
Kinda, yes, but the final speech aged terribly and they seem like some edgelord teens reenacting shit for a Youtube video, shortly before they kill people in hope to turn into a Danny Phantom ghost.
That actually happened.
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No.1063642
>>1063640
>reenacting
You can't be reenacting when you're the original… enactors.
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No.1063653
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>>1063642
>>1063640
People forget we were supposed to hate the boondock saints. The opening credit scene when they pounced out the feminist bulldyke after she got triggered by rule of thumb wasn't supposed to be played for laughs. It was set up we were supposed to not root for them.
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No.1063654
>>1063627
>>1063653
>>1063642
>>1063640
>We were not suppose to like the boondocks saints
>They killed a mob boss we was canon jerking off to cp when he took a bullet to the back of his skull
>They killed ghetto drug dealers who sold kids to sex trafficking rings
>They killed hitman that slaughtered whole families
>But they were homophobic and violated criminal civil rights!
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No.1063655
>>1063654
I never said I didn't like them you fuck. I just think their speech is cringy in an age of Youtube, DeviantArt and past Columbine.
>>1063642
Well, I didn't even need to answer to your knitpicky garbage, but the cop himself says the characters reenact shit they saw in western, so even your smartassery is wrong.
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No.1063656
>>1063653
Well, ironically, that didn't make me hate them, but their Catholic education. I was like "Oh rude… but oh well, they're Catholic."
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No.1063658
>>1063656
>>1063653
Or more like, it's their overall lifestyle. They live in a shitty place, do shitty jobs, obviously have bad education, are fanatic, and their decision to kill people feels completely dumb, combined with the terrible execution (literally) all the time.
You still root for them because they are idiots but do what we wish we could do, and they have a strange honor code and justification behind it. It's like "God Bless America".
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No.1063671
>>1063658
I didn't root for them. Not because they beat up a bulldyke but because I was perpetually cringing throughout the movie. Irish Catholokiller has been done much better.
no son. the pee stays in the pants. someday you'll understand
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No.1063680
>>1063655
>knitpicky
nitpicky
>the cop himself says the characters reenact shit they saw in western
We were talking specifically about the bible-passage sounding speeches. I haven't seen a lot of westerns, I didn't think there were many where cowboys sound like bible quoting fanatics.
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No.1063686
>>1063627
I thought it was making fun of action movies by having them do action movie cliche's that wouldn't work in real life?
>>1063653
>>1063654
I never knew that. I thought they were more like working class vigilante heroes. I mean they felt pretty genuine like you've met someone like that.
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No.1063695
>>1063680
>I didn't think there were many where cowboys sound like bible quoting fanatics.
There were tons of westerns with religious overtones. It was a very, very common thing.
http://thegreatwesternmovies.com/2014/11/12/westerns-religion/
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No.1063712
>>1063695
>It was a very, very common thing
Before the 60's, apparently. Those are some old movies, so I don't know how much that cliche applies anymore. Guess it depends on how old you like your movies.
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No.1063716
Speaking of edgelord and garbage, The Batman Who Laughs is the worst fucking series I've seen in a long time and completely pisses over Dark Knights Metal. The twists are shit, the art is shit, the story is confusing (Batman becomes The Batman Who Laughs… but not really… but now he does… and now he does even more… and now he gets injected with a toxin to turn him into The Batman Who Laughs… wait but he was already turning into him…).
I just wanted to let it out, because some asshole keeps reviewing garbage comics as if they were the most amazing thing ever.
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No.1063723
>>1063716
>the bat who laughs
Isn't that some weird ass Hellraiser/Batman mashup where a cenobite Joker dressed as batman keeps enslaving young boys and dressing them up as vampire Robins?
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No.1063724
>>1063723
In Dark Knights Metal, it's established that there is a negative Multiverse that keeps getting erased. Several Batmen are created in that universe why events going wrong. There's an evil Flash Batman who steals Flash's speed force, saying he's incompetent. There's a Doomsday Batman, infecting himself with the Doomsday virus after Superman goes evil. There's a Green Lantern Batman who gets the ring after the death of his parents and starts to kill people etc.
And finally, there's Batman who kills the Joker, who in that universe is filled with Joker gas, so he turns into the Batman Who Laughs, who gathers all those evil Batmen to take over the regular Multiverse via Crisis of Infinite Earths McGuffin. And he's got several cannibal Robins on chains, yes. Those were the victims of him re-enacting the Wayne murders over and over again in front of Batman. That's all there is about him, it's just a better scheming Joker with the fighting skill of Batman, basically.
But the comic series The Batman Who Laughs is all about him, turning him into a Gary Stu with unclear abilities. The mask turns out can read people's thoughts or something, which is dumb. To defeat him, Batman has to become The Batman Who Laughs himself for some reason, and the only one who understands him is Gordon's insane son… it's utter garbage. In the current issue, Gordon wears the friggin Batman Beyond costume, which is for some reason finished in present day and available to anyone, AND fits Gordon for some reason. It's so stupid.
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No.1063725
>>1063724
Everything you just described sounds like some horrific Deviant-art tier BDSM fapfic.
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No.1063727
>>1063725
Welcome to modern comics.
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No.1063728
>>1063725
Yeah when I saw the Batman Who Laughs design I also thought, what kind of weird edgelord Hellraiser garbage that is. But it's just a design and he doesn't do any edgy things. He's not even that important in my opinion, since the true villain is someone else.
But his comic series fleshes him out with all that cringy garbage you'd expect, and I don't even understand when and where the events take place.
Oh and his comic also has a henchman who's a Punisher Batman named The Grim Knight. Because the 90s weren't terrible enough.
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No.1063731
>>1063728
>and I don't even understand when and where the events take place
Hey it's just like regular comics.
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No.1063734
>>1063731
I mean within the Dark Knights Metal lore.
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No.1063735
>>1063728
>>1063716
And Snyder is still considered a good writer by some dickheads? I dropped him after Death Of The Family.
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No.1063751
>>1063735
The Batman Who Laughs isn't by him. Dark Knights Metal is by him, and that one is awesome.
I feel like I'm slowly explaining shit to stoners.
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No.1063799
>>1063751
>The Batman Who Laughs isn't by him.
Only for the 2017 issue (an origin one) retard
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No.1063804
>>1063799
His origin issue from Dark Knights Metal isn't the same origin than in Batman Who Laughs, that's also some confusing shit, retard.
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No.1063820
>>1063728
>last pic
Shame such nice art is wasted for this trash.
>>1063735
I never understood why Batman fans kept praising him. He was never as good as they kept making him out to be. Then we get Tom King who's Batman stuff is either just pretentious or just misery porn.
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No.1063849
>>1063492
Frank… had a hard life.
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No.1063854
>>1063492
He's complaining about the state of life/existence itself.
It's also partially a reference to Garth Ennis' Preacher series. Don't read it, OP. If you think Punisher is edgy this shit will cause Likin Park cds and posters to manifest in your room as your nails turn black.
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No.1063855
That's not edge at all lol. Go to pol.
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No.1063904
Oh, man, I haven't seen this bait template in awhile. People still fall for it too? Absolutely amazing, time to pick out the newfags.
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No.1067879
>>1063855
/pol/ isn't edgy. It's just a bunch of summerfags shitposting.
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No.1067883
Because he’s a Vietnam Veteran, and a Suppressed Psychotic with PTSD and nothing left to lose.
The truth of the matter is, like any trigger-happy soldier, he just uses this persona mostly as an excuse to kill people, not because of his family.
As Punisher MAX once pointed out, just the second before his family got shot up, he asked his wife for a divorce because he couldn’t take living a boring solemn life after all what he’s experienced in Vietnam.
Truth of the matter is, he takes pleasure in killing criminals. If he didn’t have that slight ounce of morality, he’d just kill anyone he feels like ending (heroes included). It is also hinted he’s very suicidal, and just wants to kill until somebody successfully puts a bullet in him (which is almost impossible).
Ever since Microchip (his former sidekick) left for good, the series has been on a steady decline.
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No.1067938
>>1067883
Best and most honest summary of the punisher personality.
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No.1068534
>>1063493
>because he lives on the edge
You had ONE JOB.
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No.1069034
>>1068534
*sips* ahh that was a good meme
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