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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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4c4826  No.852094

Read the Ghospel of St. John 8:23-44, and you'll see that Jesus said that Abraham was a LIAR. …and the Father of Jews is the DEVIL.

Any questions?

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ae4853  No.852096

>>852094

I know you're not literate in English, so try reading it in your own language and then you should realize how retarded you are

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000000  No.852104

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

There are many similarities between Satan and God, one example is both Jesus and Satan are referred to as the morning star, That doesn't mean they're one in the same.

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000000  No.852105

>>852104

Forgot to mention, there are similarities because Satan is an evil counterfeit of God.

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511c78  No.852106

>>852104

Jesus never worshipped Jehova. He called to worship the Father - God El). Jehova is the name of God Seth after the J3ws were exiled from Lower Egypt, they worshipped Seth. The Upper Egypt Pharaoh banned the cult to Seth, and they renamed their god as Yahweh, and that also explains they don't allow idols in their synagogues.

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000000  No.852109

>>852094

That picture is not made in good faith. God allowed Satan to provoke David to number Israel. God did not tell David to do this. There are many times this happens in the book of Job, for example. When God allows Satan to cause trouble to Job to test his faith.

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511c78  No.852111

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>>852109

Jehova said to Hosea:

"And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali."

Hosea 2:16

Ishi - Ishtar

Baali - Baal (My Lord).

Jehova isn't God. That's why the Old Testament it's absolute HERESY.

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37b1ac  No.852115

>>852111

You're actually retarded

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14607f  No.852122

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>>852111

Scan from the 1611.

>>852115

Chill I got this, lol

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511c78  No.852125

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>>852122

That's the first version of King James Bible? Nice.

Yes, Yahweh was called as Baali, because Yahweh was related as Baal-Moloch. In Middle East was a priestly competition of who gained more followers… The Hebrews invented that exclusive god (which was a Demon who was constantly asking for human/animal sacrifices). Also they believed in God El (The Holy Father); but they never worshipped him, because they considered him as a relative god who never intervene.

Read St. John 8:23-44 and you'll se what Jesus said against Yahweh and his "s0ns".

I've got some collections of Bibles - Vulgata Latina (Spanish-Latin Bible), King James (Protestan-English), Tindale, Reina Valera, and some modern revisions.

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511c78  No.852126

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>>852115

Arianus was RIGHT.

The Old Testament (Torah, major and minor prophet books) describe the God Yahweh; meanwhile in New Testament, Jesus preaches about God El - the Holy Father.

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14607f  No.852129

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John 5.

>46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

>47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

Matthew 5. 17

>Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Luke 16. 31

>And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

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511c78  No.852130

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>>852129

> 23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

> 24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

> 25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.

> 26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.

> 27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.

> 28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

> 29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

>30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.

>31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

>32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

>33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

>34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

>35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

>36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

>37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

>38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

>39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

>40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

>41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

>42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

>43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

>44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Jesus clearly said in John 8th that Abraham was a liar.

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8304f1  No.852132

>>852130

>44 Ye are of your father the devil,

Om, anon, it clearly says he is talking about the devil in that verse.

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511c78  No.852134

>>852132

> Ye (you - pointing at Pharisees) are your father the Devil.

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820b89  No.852136

Ban this gnostic twerp

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dc4a4b  No.852140

>>852130

Please learn to read

>If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham… but now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

He very clearly says that they are not the children of Abraham - "IF ye were Abraham's children", which means that they are not Abraham's children. He then states that their father is the devil, not Abraham

He is not stating that Abraham is the devil

Learn to read

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