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03358f (2)  No.851566>>851581 >>851594 >>851622 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Imagine your mind imaginating weird and disgusting things all the time, as you like these things but you actually dislike it. Not only it, but when I'm doing normal things, my mind say that the intention for these things are for the horrible imagination things of my mind. I want to know if there's a way to purify my mind, because this affects me too when I pray or do other religion acts. If /christian/ could help me, I would be very grateful.

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c2c750 (2)  No.851581 >>851592

>>851566 (OP)

It's not going to happen all at once.

Accept that you need the Holy Mother Church to help.

Confess and the priest will give advice to you. If he forgets, ask for it.

Mostly he will say keep busy; mow the lawn, vacuum the carpets, etc to keep your mind off bad thoughts.

I have had success with saying to myself "okay, I'm going to give into that thought, but right now I'm going for a walk with the dog".

If I come back with the dog and still have that thought, I say "okay, I'll give into that thought, but first I need to say today's rosary". Bad thoughts after saying a rosary is like drinking orange juice after brushing your teeth.

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e046b8 (1)  No.851592 >>851605 >>851611 >>851613

>>851581

Stop with this. You don't need Catholicism, you need Jesus. YOU can have a personal connection with him, nor priest or any other biblical figure needed. Christ is the only mediator between God and man. Find a pastor if you want, but first and foremost, talk to Jesus. You have a direct line to him, any time you want, anywhere you want, for as long as you live. He loves you, and he will listen to you.

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307d21 (3)  No.851594

>>851566 (OP)

The main advice I can give from my own personal experience is to stop consuming digital entertainment. I have found that the images that fill my mind when I try to pray are related to the various forms of entertainment I have seen. The screens that project these images flicker at a high rate which makes them appear static, obviously by now this is common knowledge but most people don't understand that this method of entertainment is literally implanting images in your head.

Watching violent content fills your head with violent imagery. watching pornographic content fills your head with pornographic imagery, and so on. Music seems to have the same effect too, we've all experienced the sensation of 'having a song stuck in your head'. Cutting as much of this stuff out of your life will definitely improve mental clarity. It won't be a perfect solution to the problem but it will certainly help.

My mind is nowhere near pure and I have just begun to implement these changes in my life but so far I have definitely seen improvements. This is definitely an important discussion and I'd be interested in hearing the thoughts of others when it comes to this issue because we are all suffering from some level of mental impurity.

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970c8a (1)  No.851605

>>851592

Right. And if you want to hear back from the Lord, then read his Word.

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0e93bd (1)  No.851610

Yup I've had violent thoughs that Im stuck witnessing in my mind. Neither consented or warranted. Still do sometimes, but I can usually can ignore them. Your not a monster. You probably just have MK ultra brain damage.

Do this

This one is important, get this book. "Deliverance prayers for use by the Laity"

Also, Pay equal attention to your body and your relationship with God.

Work on willpower. Exercise this by denying the little things. Like (You don't need a cookie, put it down)

Seriously Stop consuming Fluoride. As best as you can. s--- clogs your head

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c2c750 (2)  No.851611

>>851592

Jesus established a church, gave the apostles the power to forgive sins, told the people at length about not sinning, spoke of those who have cried "Lord Lord" at judgment and yet he doesn't know them because of their sins, and there are those who reject all of that and claim they don't need a church, don't need to confess or apostles (priests), think Christ died so they can sin, and cry "Lord Lord"

Douay-Rheims Bible

Job 42:8

Take unto you therefore seven oxen, and seven rams, and go to my servant Job, and offer for yourselves a holocaust : and my servant Job shall pray for you : his face I will accept, that folly be not imputed to you : for you have not spoken right things before me, as my servant Job hath.

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41337e (1)  No.851613

>>851592

Jesus told his apostles they had authority to forgive in his name

John 20:23

>If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.

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e8d6f6 (1)  No.851618

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It's spiritual warfare, when you notice the intrusive thoughts you must end them rather than entertain them.

We are not our thoughts but the arbiter over them.

As to them popping during prayer, dont worry, even the saints report similar stuff, the devil wants to derail you. Do as said before, dont entertain them. And dont worry, God knows we cant pray with perfect attention like an angel, we getting distracted and tempted is part of our current nature, the prayer is still meritorious if you fight it.

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a746b8 (2)  No.851622 >>851625

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>>851566 (OP)

>Imagine your mind imaginating weird and disgusting things all the time, as you like these things but you actually dislike it.

I like many others have plenty of personal experience with this as I used to consume a lot of pornography of all kinds, whether I fell into temptation, was bored, or willingly indulged in it. I knew it was wrong every time I did it but I kept coming back. Realizing that I had no legacy (in fact, it would be one of sin that ruined my life) if I had died, I knew urgent change was needed and submitted myself to Christ. I hope that some of the advice I'll share here will help you and through God you'll be able to end your addiction.

>1. Pornography is a sin against the sixth and ninth commandments

"Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes. (CCC 2351)" The reason you are having these thoughts all the time is because it is normalized in you. If a man lusts after a specific fetish or particular body type of woman in pornography, that will only narrow his field of vision further. He will lust after that type of woman - reducing them to an "instrument of sexual pleasure." You must physically remove (delete/block websites/etc) any and all temptation. For instance, If you have any movies or games with sex scenes or images that tempt you, get rid of them. The more you begin to love and serve God, the more you will begin to hate evil. So even if you mess up a few times, what matters is that you keep on trying.

>2. Prayer for Purity

Praying the rosary daily will help you resist temptation. If you remind yourself and focus on Mary who was perfect and sinless (the perfect example of a woman before God), you will come to all sorts of wonderful conclusions about your life and how to be a living example of Christ. For example, Mary dressed perfectly as a woman (no skin being revealed, her head covered, no leg showing, etc). These are just some of the things to think about when it comes to pure thoughts.

https://www.ourcatholicprayers.com/prayers-for-purity.html

https://catholicgentleman.net/2016/01/10-ways-to-win-the-battle-for-purity/

>3. Win over impure thoughts with pure thoughts

This really helped me as well as prayer and discipline, but I hope it helps you, too (if not, at least your own version of it you can spend time thinking of). I'm a very visual person. I enjoy painting and drawing, and I also enjoy looking at art, watching movies, that sort of thing. When that is corrupted with graphic violence and sexual content for "entertainment" your desires become twisted as we understand. It took me a very, very long time to realize this, but to help defeat my constant desire for my sexual passions, I had to seek out what was good. And it is only what God wants that is good. I replaced my visual library with wholesome images, stopped watching hentai and anime that made me feel deep shame, and focused on what God wants from me. I posted William Adolphe Bouguereau because he was a Catholic artist who I believe painted with the purist of intentions unlike "artists" today on social media. His paintings of the Most Holy Family, the Christ Child, St. John the Baptist, are something which captures the innocence of childhood, the purity of the Blessed Mother, the beauty of family, and much more. In essence, replace that which is evil, with what is pure and good.

I hope this helps in some way. I've provided some links for more info. God bless you, OP.

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307d21 (3)  No.851625 >>851629

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>>851622

What exactly is this symbol meant to be?

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a746b8 (2)  No.851629 >>851630

>>851625

I actually don't know - but what I do see is are the letters 'M' and 'A.'

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307d21 (3)  No.851630

>>851629

From what I could find it seems to be the Auspice Maria which, as you say, is meant to be an M and A overlaid on top of each other.

http://symboldictionary.net/?p=2255

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03358f (2)  No.851716

OP here.

Thanks EVERYONE for helping me on it, I've read now everything posted here. I probably realized something:I should do on the past everything that people here recommended.

Certainly could help on my actual spiritual jorney, but I must say:I'm on a horrible status.

These imaginations create a huge shock into my head. When I imaginate these things, my mind imaginate it as I feel attracted to them. Even terrible things that I feel a real disgusting feeling. I would say that it's a "false attraction", then.

When I imagine these things, it also triggers sensations in other parts of my body. Even on the genital area, even if it's not a sexual sensation.

About the mind makes evil intentions to normal things, it's like my body would be making normal things turn on a evil form, as the body intention is evil. I feel that if I omit, leave the body doing these things, I would be an accomplice. The body makes evil intentions that are against the chastity, too.

If people here could help me on these points, I would again, be very grateful.

God bless everyone.

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