e16bce No.849816
What are your thoughts on Buddhism? Buddhism teaches there is no true self because everything constantly changes/flows, there is nothing static, and so consequently, everything exists only within our perceptions, reality doesn't exist, it's all an illusion. But due to our desires, we cling to our illusions in order to make ourselves happy, but since there is no true substance to cling to, everything changes, and we experience loss, which makes us suffer. It is only by freeing ourselves from these illusions and learning to accept change that we can endure suffering and overcome it to truly become happy, by giving everything up, but by going through the middle way, else we might paradoxically become attached to the means by which we are trying to become unattached. By accepting the four noble truths, and following the eightfold path, we can hopefully break the cycle of death and rebirth by attaining enlightenment and reaching Nirvana. Buddhists believe that Gautama Siddhartha was the continual reincarnation of a particular Bodhisattva (an entity who has is one step away from enlightenment but chooses to delay it for the good of others) and that he achieved full Buddhahood in Siddhartha so that through him he might teach the world about the path to Buddhism so as to lead everyone into become a Buddha. So what do you think about the Buddha and Buddhism?
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adabe5 No.849817
>>849816
Where there is peace, there is no salvation.
Christianity is a religion that acknowledges that the human soul needs help…. that it needs redemption. More importantly, it needs a Redeemer. "No man comes to Father except by me." Words to live by. Take it to the bank.
That all said, Buddhists, as well as Hindus, have a hint of Noachide truth in them. They still have good ethics. Both are also Christianity's closest allies against Communism or Islam. One should not be afraid of seeing the good in them and potential allies, even as we try to reach them with the Gospel.
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2e72da No.849834
Ditch all responsibility (including his family) and go around begging from those who work.
Pretend you'll be nothing after death to escape hell.
Pagan.
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da2361 No.849848
very noble religion
theyre spices make up for there lack of patristics
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697cfa No.849856
>>849816
The invention of Buddhism as a distinct religion was based on the discovery of Sanskrit texts that could be used to trace the origins of disparate rites in Asia back to the figure of Gautama. Buddhism was born as a textual religion, on the model of Protestantism. Once this work was done, the actual living manifestations of these rites were understood by Western scholars as corruptions from the original spirit of the texts. The purity of the universal, interior, spiritual message of the Buddha had been debased into materialistic ritual. The Buddha was commonly presented—by Max Müller, among many others—as the “Martin Luther of the East,” a reformer who had rejected the ritualism of Hinduism to found a purely spiritual religion. Where Hinduism was a particularistic national religion, Buddhism was universal, originating in the mind of Gautama and capable of being practiced anywhere. The fact that Buddhism itself had been degraded in practice from the founder’s original insight did not prevent the designation of Buddhism as a world religion. It was, however, considered to be a world religion based on its "original" form, not on its actual corrupt forms as practiced in the Orient.
The secular states in effect had no need for a concept of religion which was not a private and internal “spiritual” thing which is a complete fabrication and modern invention. The replacement of virtues, an inherently practical and social endeavour, with voluntarism - setting ethics beneath and beholden to epistemology - is a clear result then of the action and selection of Power.
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2e72da No.849860
Sometimes I get the feeling that there are more godless atheist LARPers trolling /christian/ than there are Christians.
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697cfa No.849870
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5974f7 No.850056
>>849816
It describes the same truth as Christianity and other major religions, just using different imagery. They are a good complement to each other in trying to decipher scripture. Although they also have differences, and yet all may be true, but a big part of the major religions is the same.
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c3e776 No.850065
>>849834
>Ditch all responsibility (including his family) and go around begging from those who work.
Sounds like the actions of a certain renowned saint and the behavior of a certain category of church group. Also the overweight Chinese monk is Budai not Siddhattha Gotama.
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000000 No.850073
>>849860
I think it's that the Atheist and trolls make more threads than post replies, that is why it seems that there are more than Christians.
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43f164 No.850321
Siddhartha Gautama was someone who taught partial truth heavily clouded by his own mind and cultural climate. Jesus and his Church are the first and only people to teach the full truth (since Christ IS Truth), something that not even the Old Testament can claim to do. All that said, if God has mercy to bring certain Buddhists ignorant of Christianity (which probably doesn't exist anymore) into Heaven because of their striving for God and their charity, that's God's will. We cannot really say either way, so it's best to preach to those Buddhists whom God puts in our way and hope they are called to become Christians.
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b6e0d6 No.850610
Siddhartha Gautama was a very wise and knowledgeable man who came to some interesting insights about life. Of course, he predated Christ by roughly 400-500 years in a land 4500 miles away from the holy land in a culture far removed from that of our Lord's, so we can't really expect him to have had knowledge about the true God of Israel, who is the God of the whole world. But he did the best he could within the capacity of human reason, like Zoroaster and also like Socrates and Plato and Aristotle. These were all very wise men, and I'm sure that when Christ descended into Hades that Buddha accepted his kerygma, along with Zoroaster, Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, and many of the other great philosophers, sages, and ascetics of old.
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ae17b3 No.850618
There's no such thing as Buddhism.
In the Buddha's time, you won't call the followers of Buddha, Buddhists, this is mostly a modern label for convinience.
Anything that is Right and true, is in line with the Buddha's teachings, which is primarily to eradicate needless cycles of suffering and the path to peace.
The Buddha was pragmatic so he taught in similes, like all great teachers did. You will find many parallels of his teachings in the NT and some Ecclesiatical teachings.
The point is there's no such thing as Buddhism. You don't need to be a monk, ascetic, but you also need not be a hedonist to achieve peace. The Middle Way, along with the attitude of dropping all unbeneficial behaviours is the key of practice.
All you need is a way to calm the mind using mediation, study it when its calm (the insight meditation), and adopt good ethics.
I'd imagine Buddha would get along with Christ, apart from the fact that Buddha's peace does not require the help of a God. But then again, the promises of our Lord Jesus Christ is beyond wordly, transcendent peace but that of Salvation, a completely different aim from inner peace.
What do I think of the Buddha's dharma?
I think it is a good tool to subdue the passions of men that often lead them to evil deeds. A good tool like meditation is complimentary to living a Christ-like life.
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a8d9a7 No.850892
I think the buddhist description of hell is interesting
https://accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.130.than.html
It says that the inherent moral penalty for disrespecting parents is damnation is what is described as the "Great Hell". The suffering only ends when the condemned depletes his karma. Then he will finally die.
It also indicates that the beginnings of the tortures inflicted on the condemned is piercing of the hands, feet & abdomen. The five wounds of Christ…
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Also I think the Buddhist view is helpful in discussions about same sex marriage.
If you jettison the rest of Christianity,
The medieval Catholic ideas/myths about Romantic love don't really make sense by themselves. See for example "The Allegory of Love" by C.S. Lewis.
e.g. In Theravada Buddhism everything can be described by the 3 characteristics.
1) everything changes
2) everything is unsatisfactory
3) no self.
So in Theravada Buddhism the notion of romantic love between selves is a delusion at best.
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Finally I find the medieval philosopher Nagarjuna interesting. If there is no self, what is it that gets reincarnated, & what does this invisible metaphysical stuff called Karma "stick" to? In order to get around this conundrum he had to develop a system of logic that violated the principle of non-contradiction
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26cc07 No.850923
Buddhism is as far from Christianity as any religion. Its basically nihilism perfected. Nietzsche was right about that.
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9c92ba No.851329
False teaching. This is anti-consciousness. Nirvana is positive oblivion. In truth
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2e72da No.851337
>>849860
this. One post by Op. Never came back.
We get trolled by jews and fedora tippers all the time. It's rather obvious which threads are just bait
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b1a586 No.851373
>>850923
>Buddhism is nihilism
That's the dumbest cliche to ever exists. You'd be better off just telling people you're "a idiot."
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a8d9a7 No.851376
Beyond Theraveda there is an interesting relationship between Nestorian Christianity & the development of Mahayana Buddhism.
Nestorius believed that the man Jesus of Nazareth was haunted by or channeled the Logos. He was run out of Constantinople for this but started his own church in the east, & his missionaries made it to China. Genghis Khan's mother was a nestorian Christian.
Pic attached is a book that the Japanese Buddhist equivalent of the Gideon's place in hotel bedside tables. It reads like a nestorian text with the words "Jesus" & "Logos" replaced with "Siddhartha" & "Buddha-nature"
Also the minor Buddhist god Kwan Yin, seems to have had his gender changed & been reinvented as the Buddhist goddess of compassion that more than a few people have noticed bears a striking resemblance to the BVM…
One of the most popular Mahayana sects is Pure Land Buddhism. This bears such a striking similarity to some forms of evangelicalism, that there is a famous tale of 17th century Jesuit missionaries who, after having this sect explained to them, looked at each other in bewilderment saying, "How did the Lutherans get here ahead of us?"
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a8d9a7 No.851377
an Australian Methodist went to Japan to be a missionary, but ended up abandoning Methodism to become a Zen priest. He later learned and was appalled by how the Zen establishment acted as cheerleaders for mass murder in China during WWII. Pic related is the book.
To their credit, many American Zen centers have disclaimers that their lineage has come through some of the Buddhists mentioned in this book.
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a8d9a7 No.851379
Pic related is the book by an American Catholic who converted to Tibetan Buddhism, and was even ordained a nun by the Dalai Lama, but eventually reverted to Catholicism.
Sadly, the worship afforded to Tibetan Vajrayana teachers by naive westerners has produced some shocking personalities. Chögyam Trungpa infected meditation students with HIV. He knew he had it & at least one student died. He had several DWI's & very expensive drug habits. Yet he was considered enlightened & had the title Rinpoche.
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efefa7 No.851844
>>851377
>an Australian Methodist went to Japan to be a missionary, but ended up abandoning Methodism to become a Zen priest
Did his original name end with -berg, -stein, -witz, or something to the tune?
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a8d9a7 No.851847
Brian Victoria
You can see it on the cover. I don't know anything about his ancestry
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