65a39a No.848384
Was born into a Catholic family and have been faithful for most of my life but now obviously the RCC is being run by heretics and every single day it plunges further and further into modernism and it really does look like the antichrist is going to come from the RCC, I wouldn't be surprised if Francis IS the antichrist. So now I think I want to become Orthodox. How do I become Orthodox? They seem like the only good Church left. Do I just go to an Orthodox parish and ask the priest if I can convert?
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bfd9dd No.848385
>>848384
The Orthodox have their heads in the clouds. They're more concerned with unimportant spiritual questions than tending to the garden God wants them to tend in this life which is Earth and the humans on it, especially your family and neighbors. Although Protestants simplified salvation a little too much to the point where it's heretical, they are very good at looking out for their own and even though Catholics invented and kickstarted science there is certainly no lack of great Protestant scientists. Orthodoxy is simply too close to gnosticism, obsessing over the spiritual world when they're currently meant to be God's hand in the world they are in right now.
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221f07 No.848387
>>848384
>They seem like the only good Church left
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363ba7 No.848389
>>848387
But Evangelicals are heretics, anon. They believe in the Satanic doctrines of sola fide and sola scriptura, something which the historic Christian world never believed in until Martin Luther. They also deny the sacraments of the Church and degrade them as mere "superstitions" despite the fact that they are found both in the Bible and the Church Fathers, meaning they are blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Evangelicalism is barely Christianity to tell the truth.
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221f07 No.848390
>>848389
Cool presuppositions
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5cef50 No.848391
we're in crisis, this much is for certain, im gonna hold out just a bit longer whilst henceforth vehemently opposing this anti-pope. viva christo rey
>>848384
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221f07 No.848392
>>848391
Omen seeking is sin
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5cef50 No.848393
>>848392
just happy little accident.
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664ff8 No.848398
>>848389
“We have a perfect knowledge of all things necessary to salvation, from the faith of Scripture.”
- Wycliffe, De veritate sacrae scripturae, p. 108.
“The merit of Christ is of itself sufficient to redeem every man from hell: it is to be understood of a sufficiency of itself, without any other concurring cause.”
- Wycliffe, De veritate sacrae scripturae, pp. 552-553.
“Since heretical falsehood about the consecrated host is the most important point in individual heresies, I therefore declare to modern heretics, in order that this falsehood may be eradicated from the church, that they cannot explain or understand an accident without a subject. And therefore all these heretical sects belong to the number of those who ignore the fourth chapter of John: We worship what we know.”
- Quotation of Wycliffe, entered into the daily records for Council of Constance, July 6, 1415.
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432876 No.848401
>>848387
You not talking about American evangelicalism? That’s beyond Protestantism at this point.
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f338fb No.848406
Its the religion of the cross, not of running away from the crosses.
Also as if babylonian contamination doesnt reach them, like BLM supporting patriarchs.
https://spzh.news/en/news/75138-na-forume-g20-glava-fanara-zajavil-o-podderzhke-idej-blm
Just because their failures are never news here doesnt mean they dont have problems.
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5c79b2 No.848409
>>848384
'be the change u wanna see', dont be a coward.
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221f07 No.848412
>>848401
I am, this is an american study
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bfd9dd No.848479
>>848389
Even though the common man's interpretation of the Bible is usually wrong since men are corrupt depraved creatures, it's generally easier to interpret the Bible as a conservative book than a liberal one. So I would say the error of the Protestants is much more benign than the errors of the orthos who mix church and state. Also as a lifelong Catholic fukk catholarpers who call for monarchy. God said choosing monarchy is abandoning Him.
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c3c2f8 No.848481
In the last days there will be chaos in the church and many will fall away and apostate. Blessed is he who stays to the true faith. For our faith is not in the clergy or the person of the pope but in Jesus Christ and the holy spirit who reside in the one true holy universal Catholic church
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d94bcb No.849026
>>848384
Yes. Come home to the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic and Orthodox church.
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d94bcb No.849027
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707680 No.849028
>>849027
This isn't a counterpoint
Eastern countries are more anti homo. Eastern orthodox Christians in the US are pro homo, statistically.
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664ff8 No.849029
>>849027
The sad thing about that chart is that it confuses legitimate dictatorships killing off non-islamic people and conflates that with not diagnosing sodomy as a mental illness. It makes it seem like to do one is to do the other by combining them together into one single statistic.
The islamic and authoritarian states on the right side of that graph are doing things like killing political dissidents who criticize their autocrats. The secular humanist (which is a religion) and authoritarian states on the left side of the graph are forcing people into re-education programs just to force them to view sodomy as not a mental illness and degenerative disease but a "born that way" color of the rainbow with no room for dissent. The mental patients are running the asylum and sane people have been completely driven from the sphere in both cases. Sometimes simultaneously, as in the case of London and Paris and other metro areas.
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78c4f1 No.849030
>So now I think I want to become Orthodox.
Well, there's FSSP, SSPX and SSPV
if you really think that Pope Francis is the antichrist, you want to go SSPV because they're sedes.
If you think Pope Francis is just a wicked Pope, go FSSP.
if you're unsure, go SSPX.
If your chosen option isn't in your area, go with whatever is closest.
If nothing is close enough, then move.
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f21bb9 No.849041
>>848384
There have been many points in time where the clergy in any given church has been corrupt, do not fall for church-hopping.
God gives the hardest battles to the strongest warriors.
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1ba5e7 No.849042
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d94bcb No.849043
>>849028
It is a counter-point, because Orthodox in America are not representative of the entire church.
>>849042
It's a map from 2010 tho, with unclear sources. According to more recent statistics (seems like WHO data), the difference is not quite as big:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/866423/abortion-rate-europe/
Still, kudos to you for keeping down the abortion, and kudos to us for keeping down the fags. May God help us both to improve in the future.
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707680 No.849046
>>849043
It is not a counterpoint. The pew data shows the different stances of believers within a single population, Americans.
Consider also the detail that we are English speakers on an American imageboard. Are you American?
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c3c2f8 No.849059
>>848384
not a realistic option for most people imo. Russian orthodox is basically Putin's voicebox at this point. Orthodox church of America is just Russian Orthodox managed. And unless you belong to one of the other nations that have their own orthodox church, you're not going to get much out of it
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4e83dd No.849233
RCC dogma literally evolves. It's over. You'd have to roll back everything to at least pre Vatican 1 to not have councils that are supposedly infallible but contradict previous councils and dogma.
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d94bcb No.849316
>>849046
>Consider also the detail that we are English speakers on an American imageboard. Are you American?
No. We are literally from all over the world on this board.
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81d433 No.849317
>>849316
Ok. It remains true that for Americans that eastern orthodox Christians are in a terrible political/cultural position compared to protestants.
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7c7f61 No.849432
>>848384
You don't "turn" orthodox. You make a lifetime commitment to work in acquiring the perspective of the apostles.
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b544d6 No.851325
>>848385
You have no faith?
Love of the worldly life
is not what Jesus taught
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