Is Hell as a place real?

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Is Hell as a place real? † 10/20/20 (Tue) 09:23:11 cc7338 No.848252

Is Hell as a place canonical? Could someone explain me better about this? It seems that the only word that was used to refer to hell in the Bible was "Geena", referring to a valley where pagan sacrifices took place on the Jerusalem side. Some early theologians of Christianity were also opposed to this idea, such as Origen and Gregory of Nyssa. And the idea of "Annihilation"? Is it just heresy? Does the deuterocanon say anything about hell? Can you help me, brothers?

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† 10/20/20 (Tue) 09:36:41 f12e0b No.848254

>>848252

I hate Origin. His autistic idiocy shamed gnostics out of existence which I guess is good but his arguments are so winnie the pooh awful he now makes people want to be heretics. He justified there being four Gospels by saying the earth is flat and has four corners. winnie the pooh him. He's that one guy who if asked how a tv remote works would say the invisible fairies watch you push the buttons and then fly to the tv elves to tell them. He's the insane drug addict uncle of Christianity. He also said that s— in a time the Greeks already knew the earth was round so he has no excuse.

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† 10/20/20 (Tue) 09:57:10 f5aee6 No.848255

Luke 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Mark 9:

43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

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† 10/20/20 (Tue) 09:59:25 cc7338 No.848256

>>848255

Friend, which translation did you get these verses from? I know the KJV loves to overdo the word hell.

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† 10/20/20 (Tue) 17:06:24 9cefc6 No.848273

Yeah it's real. I'm in hell right now.

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† 10/20/20 (Tue) 23:48:09 b3a8f3 No.848283

>>848256

>Friend, which translation did you get these verses from?

The KJV.

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† 10/21/20 (Wed) 03:47:35 97f1c3 No.848297

You better believe it is.

>Luke 16:19-31 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

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† 10/21/20 (Wed) 04:01:04 434620 No.848298

Hell is not a place, it is an event. there is no singular word for hell in christian bible. there is gehenna , sheol, hades.

heaven and hell as binary, final place of afterlife, does not seem to exist in the hebrew mythology of Jesus, in this anon's readings.

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† 10/22/20 (Thu) 04:20:57 b3a8f3 No.848388

>>848298

You're reading modernist publications.

Matthew 25:46

>And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

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† 10/23/20 (Fri) 01:45:23 259a4c No.848437

If God is just, there is a hell

God is just.

Ergo Hell.

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† 10/23/20 (Fri) 13:24:04 396d37 No.848448

>>848252

Hell is real. It is described as a place of pain, weeping, and fire, in the "outer darkness"

It is describe in the verse this anon cited >>848255

which does specifically say "gehenna" (look at the interlinear)

Matthew talks about it, though mostly in parables (however the parables talk pretty explicitly)

>As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Seems pretty clear to me

It might be that this only happens at the end of the age, but from the perspective of the dead there is likely no difference. This then corresponds with the Lake of Fire.

Hell is often considered to be a place where God's presence is Not. Therefore, since it is divorced from the source of existence, it hardly exists. That doesn't mean it can't still hurt. In fact I'd imagine that lack of reality is a very deeply felt pain.

Still, the Biblical authors don't talk about it much. Hell has never been a fantastic incentive towards faithfulness.

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† 10/24/20 (Sat) 05:24:39 b3a8f3 No.848487

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>>848448

>which does specifically say "gehenna" (look at the interlinear)

The Luke passage here uses hades. >>848297 The terms are interchangeable, despite what modernists want to tell you who deny hell.

People just really want to deny hell so obviously this kind of attack was coming. They try to pretend the words are different and supply their own false definitions, while ignoring the fact they are interchangeable.

>This then corresponds with the Lake of Fire.

The lake of fire is in the end-times, the main difference is it lasts forever. Hell is still a place of fiery torment, see the Luke passage linked to above in Luke 16. There's no denying it when you actually look at the scriptures and not listen to modern "scholars" who are liars and deceivers in disguise.

They teach what people want to hear and that's how they receive their support. The scripture stands against them, as delineated above.

>Hell is often considered to be a place where God's presence is Not.

There is no scripture reference for this, so I'm going to say false.

Psalm 139:8

If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.

>Therefore, since it is divorced from the source of existence, it hardly exists.

Your premise was proven false, so your conclusion naturally is false, as you cannot deny that it exists in this way. Nor can you deny it by trying to separate and redefine the words when they are interchangeable and they all refer to the same thing if you are being intellectually honest.

>Hell has never been a fantastic incentive towards faithfulness.

How do you know this? Every scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. How do you know what parts of scripture are not effective more than others?

Many people are more concerned with trying to distance themselves from false stereotypes rather than proclaim the truth. They are afraid of being called names so they compromise on telling the truth.

Luke 9:26

For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.

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