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Latins are Modalists. † 10/15/20 (Thu) 23:24:27 21cb2d No.847896

Latins, stop denying the Monarchy of the Father. The hypostases of the Trinity aren't "mere" relations of the Ousia, they are separate from the Ousia, and the Father in particular is existentially prior to the Ousia. Your Aristoltean pagan philosophy is heretical and has introduced Modalsim into the Trinity.

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† 10/15/20 (Thu) 23:40:46 8bdee6 No.847899

>>847896

I don't see what's wrong here. From the Source and Logic come God's Hand in the world. If you say the Holy Spirit comes from the Source alone and not Logic then what makes the One God any different from pagan gods with arbitrary wills? Nothing. God is consistent and systematic. You might as well say His Spirit comes from Logic because God is the Being who dictates what's True Logic in the first place. If Aristotle found it first good for him. Pagan's being right about one thing doesn't make it any less true.

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† 10/15/20 (Thu) 23:41:01 8bdee6 No.847900

>>847899

Dubs confirm.

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† 10/16/20 (Fri) 01:35:51 e92e15 No.847910

>if you do/don't do X like my church it means you believe Y heresy

Dumb and petulant

Whether the spirit proceeds from the Son and the Father or just the Father is such a nuanced and complicated issue, both sides are entirely reasonable. The controversy wasn't even about the doctrine, it was about the west's authority to introduce the phrase into the creed.

The west definitely wasn't motivated by aristotelianism to add the filioque clause, that's just historically illiterate. Aristotle wasn't even translated into Latin until the Muslim Averroes in the 1100s, then brought into christian theology in the 1200s by Alexander of Hales.

Catholics don't offer wine at communion. Does that mean they deny that Christ shed his blood?

Most of us don't baptize three times. Does that mean we deny the trinity?

In the west the heresy to stop was Arianism, and the filioque clause helped btfo the Arians. The east got understandably upset at the precedent it set to unilaterally add to a creed.

Further study

https://youtu.be/Q_s9Rcsg5UI

https://www.5minutesinchurchhistory.com/alexander-of-hales/

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† 10/16/20 (Fri) 04:09:56 f4be2c No.847918

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>>847896

look everyone a photian!

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† 10/16/20 (Fri) 08:49:12 8d4eed No.847926

>brilliant polytheist destroys Christianity in one epic s—post

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† 10/16/20 (Fri) 08:56:35 8d4eed No.847927

>>847910

You should read his post more closely, it contains real and concerning heresy, not mere syntactical disagreement

>The hypostases of the Trinity aren't "mere" relations of the Ousia, they are separate from the Ousia, and the Father in particular is existentially prior to the Ousia.

This is effectively a denial of monotheism and the trinity.

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