Stop "venerating" statues

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Stop "venerating" statues † 10/04/20 (Sun) 18:17:49 a286a9 No.847107

>"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them

>Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them

>Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments." - Exodus 20:4-6

Call it worship, call it veneration, call it whatever you want, bowing down to statues is idolatry

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† 10/04/20 (Sun) 18:28:14 938b3e No.847108

File: 1370f543f352085⋯.jpg (193.01 KB, 1000x725, 40:29, cherubs.jpg)

No one venerates nor worships statues.

As to your verse, a paragraph or two after that God orders them to sculpt huge golden Cherubs for the ark.

A while later God orders them to make a brass snake and put it on top of a stick.

A while later Solomon makes Angels and flower motifs all over the temple. Also for his palace, oxes, lions, angels etc.

Now when the israelis made the golden calf and worshiped it now that's idolatry.

Later when Solomon's descendants made two additional calfs and had it up for worship that's idolatry.

So it's not the image that's idolatry, its treating the image as some god and worshiping it.

Every image in Christian churches of angels, saints, Jesus, are for God's glory and for aiding the faithful in orienting their prayer to the heavens.

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† 10/04/20 (Sun) 20:03:43 1ed745 No.847115

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>>847108

Accurate but some Christians really do orient their worship using an object as an intermediary, which is prohibited. Pic related.

Decorative and symbolic images, including statues, are permitted but caution is advisable

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† 10/04/20 (Sun) 20:32:01 858e3a No.847118

This again. No matter how many times you explain it, they'll come back the next day and pretend you never explained it because they don't want to know! They just want a reason to reject the One True Church.

Right after the LORD gave us the ten commandments, God instructed the faithful to build an ark with what Op would call "graven images"

Did God Change his mind? Heavens no! What God clearly meant was no images of pagan gods like the golden calf that brought the wrath of God on half of the jews.

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† 10/04/20 (Sun) 21:16:06 a286a9 No.847122

>>847108

>So it's not the image that's idolatry, its treating the image as some god and worshiping it.

True. The instance with the snake in the wilderness doesn't make sense. Why would God tell people not to worship graven images and then tell them to make a graven image of a snake to heal them? In 2 Kings 18:4 moses serpent was destroyed because israelites were worshiping it. Couldn't Helen Keller have seen that coming, much less God?

Why are the same symbols used to represent Jesus and Satan. Satan is like a roaring lion, Jesus is the lion of the tribe of judah, satan was a snake in the garden of Eden, a snake was used by moses to symbolize the messiah. Lucifer is called the morning star in the bible and Jesus is also called the morning star. . .what's going on here?

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† 10/04/20 (Sun) 21:25:34 a286a9 No.847124

>>847118

>No matter how many times you explain it, they'll come back the next day and pretend you never explained it because they don't want to know!

No, it's because your explanations convince no one but yourselves. I don't get how you could be led by someone like pope francis and still have the audacity to claim to be the one true church.The catholic church is a global pedophile cult. Israel was the chosen people of God but they lost their status because of their wickedness.The evil of the catholic church has been 1000 times greater than that of the Children of Israel so even if the catholic church did start out as the "one true church" it has conducted itself so despicably that it has no valid reason to still insist that God still grants it that role.

>God instructed the faithful to build an ark

But he didn't tell anyone to bow down to the ark.

>What God clearly meant was no images of pagan gods

No, he clearly meant anything, whether in heaven, on earth, or in the sea.

I don't think any modern church has any idea what Christianity actually is. So while I'm criticizing the Catholics here, I could just as easily be criticizing the protestants. This isn't a catholic v. protestant argument

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† 10/04/20 (Sun) 23:06:07 858e3a No.847125

>>847124

I really don't care about protestants anymore. Sorry, but I've never met one that didn't argue in bad faith, and they always lie about the Catholic Faith.

>But he didn't tell anyone to bow down to the ark.

The other Ark, not Noah's. the one if you touched it, even to keep it from falling over, God killed you for touching.

>NO!!! Don't refute me with the Bible! Sola Scriptura!!

Whatever.

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† 10/04/20 (Sun) 23:15:40 a286a9 No.847126

>>847125

Here;s a great example of irony-

>Sorry, but I've never met one that didn't argue in bad faith,

The the papist goes on to say-

>>NO!!! Don't refute me with the Bible! Sola Scriptura!!

I didn't say that I believed in sola scriptura. Why are you arguing in bad faith?

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† SAGE! 10/05/20 (Mon) 03:04:41 858e3a No.847157

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>>847126

>No!! You have to accept my lies about catholics!!

> I didn't even say sola Scriptura

stomp stomp.

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