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51db89  No.846650

Don't jews worship Jesus as the messiah? We pagans understand reality to be the truth while Christians worship abstract ideological concepts. Why blindly believe untrustworthy people teaching in front of a crowd when you could learn from nature, or even angels? Christians believe in angels right? And what if Jesus isn't what you think he is? The guy called for apocalypse not peace. Not trying to be rude. Just asking questions.

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c9242c  No.846655

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>Don't jews worship Jesus as the messiah?

No. Messiah, Christ and Anointed mean the same thing in the broader afro-asiatic language group, Greek and English respectively.

Rabbinics don't believe Jesus is the Anointed, Christians do.

>And what if Jesus isn't what you think he is?

If Christ were a lie, I would be wholly indifferent to this "truth".

In the broader sense, I am Christian because I choose to take the Resurrection of the Dead as a given and organize my life around it. I desire the salvation of individual things and persons into a new reality that life has been separated from death, I do not desire the dissipation of particulars into a cosmic bowl of mashed potates - even if they call it by the vocable "God".

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6a76d0  No.846658

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I am Christian because i know that the ruling class are satanic either literally or spiritually, (regardless if it's Lucifer, Sirius, or the basic Devil) including the Jews. In this kingdom of evil we need God to keep us away from spiritual self-destruction.

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15464d  No.846673

>>846650

>We pagans understand reality to be the truth while Christians worship abstract ideological concepts.

Migga, you guys turned literal gods into muh concepts, muh nature, muh ancestors, that is when you don't go full syncretic new age crap;

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bad55a  No.846676

No one denies reality is true, simply there is more than what you can grasp with your senses. If you say there isnt you are a materialist not a pagan.

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a19326  No.846790

>>846658

This.

I wouldn't have been hardcore christian if I didn't know what was in front of me in other countries much less my own and my government and holly wood having subliminal messages and simply being anti christ hating Jesus with everything they got people behind the pornographic industries hating on Jesus, mainstream media against christianity if it weren't for all those things along with my disdain for a degenerate society I wouldn't have been closer to christ.

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5032f1  No.846796

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>>846650

>Don't jews worship Jesus as the messiah?

How does one even make this mistake? Jews hate Jesus

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a0ba8e  No.847160

>>846650

>We pagans understand

if that were true then you wouldn't be pagan

>Christians believe in angels right?

You should read the book of Enoch if you want to know what the Christian view of angels is.

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000000  No.847163

>>846650

>Don't jews worship Jesus as the messiah?

Most Jews aren't even religious. Those who are follow orthodox Jewism or talmudism, it's basically the form of traditions Jesus fought against during the 1st century. So, no.

>We pagans understand reality to be the truth while Christians worship abstract ideological concepts.

JFL

>Christians believe in angels right?

Yes, but they're different than the catholic-whitewashing babies with wings.

>And what if Jesus isn't what you think he is?

So far Pagans have done on this either present historical inaccuracies on Christ or cast doubt without any legitimate reason to then pat yourselves on the back because by the time you asked that question you already moved on, proving the nature of man according to the bible.

>The guy called for apocalypse, not peace.

We need justice. And if there's an apocalypse happening, you should be grateful that you received a warning.

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24c95d  No.847166

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>>846650

>Don't jews worship Jesus as the messiah?

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66c8c6  No.847687

>>846650

>Don't jews worship Jesus as the messiah?

No they don't. Its specifically mentioned in the Babylonian Talmud

Maimonides, Hilchos Melachim 11:4-5

"But if he did not succeed in all this or was killed, he is definitely not the Moshiach promised in the Torah… and God only appointed him in order to test the masses."

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ac5dcc  No.847694

>>846650

State paganism had been losing to eastern cults by the time Christianity came around. "Apocalypse" is a word of Greek origin which is translated as "revelation". Christians in the old world also preserved plenty of pre-Christian motifs and traditions.

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2dc443  No.847902

>>847694

What did paganism do wrong?

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fdf97e  No.847937

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>>846650

>jews like Jesus

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