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d854b1  No.846248

My conversations about the SDA's Sabbath ideology usually goes something like this

>Isn't it arbitrary which day of the week you rest on as long as you're keeping "every 7th day" for rest and worship?

<No because God says to keep a particular day.

>How do you know which day is the true Sabbath?

<It should be the 7th day of the week because God rested on the 7th day.

>Yeah but how do you know which day is the "7th"?

<The calendar week starts on Sunday and ends on Saturday.

>Isn't it likely that the calendar has been perverted at some point over the past 10k years?

<No because the Jews have been faithfully keeping the Sabbath since the beginning of time.

Is "because the jews said so" the foundation of SDA ideology?

Background:

>I've been attending a home bible study hosted by a SDA guy who is finally starting to dive into his SDA lore. And we're watching this video series (waste of time). pic related is from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIcBChM5enE&list=PLRMvJh3bpY9Uk7S7hrFt1WxPVZjA3JmfY&index=10

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d854b1  No.846250

>>846248

I would say SDAs are being petty on the 7th day issue, but after learning about how Christians who rest on Saturday have been historically persecuted, I know now that they are all equally petty.

But Saturday though…

>Sabbath should be held on the day named after the pagan god saturn rather the pagan sun god!

: the other layer of wtf on top of this whole issue. Why do we acknowledge days of the week named after Germanic Pagan Gods?? This seems like a bigger issue to me than which day is the "true" 7th.

Also, were the historical figures who pushed for Saturday Sabbath all crypto-Jews?

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cd92b3  No.846253

say what you want about the Church of Christ and bible.ca but this webpage basically demolishes every sda argument for Saturday Sabbatarianism: https://www.bible.ca/7-sabbathgate-1888ad-Kerry-Wynne.htm

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d854b1  No.846261

>>846253

Thanks for the link. I'll check it out later. First impression is that it is leveraging verse 16,17 of Colosians 2:

>16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

>17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Wouldn't this demolish everyone who criticizes Saturday Sabbatarianism as well? I mean, the Saturday people have been historically persecuted by people who were apparently ignoring the very same Colosians verse.

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05ab7e  No.846265

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

They've got much bigger problems than the Saturday Sabbath.

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8797a6  No.846268

>>846248

SDA's are just renegade baptists through the Millerite movement, that tried to be special somehow, over issues no one in the post-Second Temple Christianity era has ever given a rat's ass about(Their JW cousins did the same with the whole YHWH thing, which again, no one in the history of Christendom has ever made a deal out of).

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efa30d  No.846283

>>846265

Yes it's simply a cult offshoot. Just like catholicism, we can say this:

Mark 7:

> 7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

> 8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

> 9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

And as someone else pointed out, Colossians 2:16-17 and Romans 14 more specifically refutes a doctrine of special calendars:

Colossians 2:

> 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

> 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Romans 14

> 5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

[…]

>13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

> 14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

IOW, SDA separate themselves from the church over the fact of keeping doctrines of men. In this case, Judaizers, who try to reinforce some part of the Old Testament law, and in doing so refuse in their mind to accord Jesus Christ the honor of fulfilling the Law, as it is so spelled out plainly. Just as the Judaizers continued to sacrifice animals in rebellion to Christ as described in the book of Hebrews. As Paul said in Colossians, the sabbath days were a shadow of things to come. They can't point you to a Scripture basis for their special calendar then, which someone made up at some later date to this and that they treat as if it was a doctrine of God when it is really a commandment of men, not found in the Bible.

>>846261

Nobody is saying you can't keep your own calendar for your own personal use only. It goes against Scripture to Judaize by imposing non-Biblical commandments of men. That's sort of the point. They try to get in the door by making you follow some kind of law they made up. To do this, they might also pretend there's a scripture basis for it when there's really not. And as the other anon pointed out, they have much bigger problems if you look at their other strange doctrines made by the same people.

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