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f54c29  No.836994

Western civilization is collapsing. It's been collapsing for a while but we're finally at the climax. Is this a judgement from God? This virus and these riots, are they sent from God because of all the homosexuality and debauchery that the west has been committing for the last few decades?

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030187  No.836997

No, the the Lord's judgement is infinitely fearful so it can only be done in eternity.

These are trifles that come and go as if they never were.

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76eeda  No.836998

>>836994

Yes. Yes to everything you said. For the last 10-12 years especially, God has been marking people for life or destruction depending on how they reacted to all these abominations you listed and more. People tried to warn America to not go down the road leading to destruction, and they went anyway, while destroying Christian teachings and persecuting those that tried to warn everyone. America was so hardheaded that they even destroyed a family’s livelihood in a public setting just for not baking a cake for a gay wedding, all to send a message. That’s a whole different level of hatred that America showed to Godly people. Then there was the false prophets that excommunicated members of their churches for speaking truth. Everybody knew this day would come. Now it’s here.

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76eeda  No.837000

>>836997

You know nothing about God. These aren’t the birth pains, these are judgments. But I get it, some will be in denial till the end.

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ad29d7  No.837060

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Yes.

Ignore all the racial stuff.

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efd72a  No.837071

>>836994

The virus is a hoax. I'm more interested in why the Jews want to exterminate the white race.

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6716ed  No.837072

>>837071

>why the Jews want to exterminate the white race.

Because we became the primary bearers of Christianity. Jews hate Christ simple as that. They continuously undermine Christian culture, which is the bedrock for >90% of all whites.

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030187  No.837076

>>837071

The lockdown destroyed many small business, now the people are unemplyed and looking for new jobs on corporations bailed out by governments. Remember that to crash the economy is an investment.

To keep wages as low as possible, demoralization tactics have rolled out. The more diverse a workforce, more profits since they won't unionize. Diversity is the strength of the capital.

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a02450  No.837099

>>837060

Ethiopians have been Christian longer than Europeans, and do not have our problems. Argument is invalid.

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a02450  No.837100

>>837099

whoops derpy derp went off half cocked hahaha. no I agree with the picture

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ba1957  No.837116

>>837099

>Ethiopians have been Christian longer than Europeans

So what's your point? It doesn't matter who's longer been a Christian, even though that argument is s— because Paul and Peter were in Rome preaching to people back then. They're coming for Ethiopians too.

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ec2df2  No.837121

>>836994

We’re judged>>836994

constantly. Not only during that period.

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ba1957  No.837201

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ad29d7  No.843667

>>837121

Thanks for the obvious

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a364be  No.843671

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>>836994

>It's been collapsing for a while but we're finally at the climax.

Oh for winnie the pooh's sake, does no one read history?

If you think this is collapse or persecution, you are as coddled as the SJW's you hate.

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e31597  No.843690

>>836994

No, judgement happens at death.

What you described is chastisement and yes that is what's happening.

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f6ada6  No.843708

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Hi OP, I think we’re around Jerimiah 16 right now

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5de18c  No.843733

>>836994

There's no "we" here. "We" were told to not be of the world. "We" were told to run for the hills.

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066482  No.843745

>>843671

This is a persecution and so were all the other times in history

> you are as coddled as the SJW's you hate

🅱️ig 🅱️rain centrist take

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ad29d7  No.843766

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e13ae7  No.843829

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f5471e  No.843857

>>843745

To use words like judgement or civilizational collapse(especially to think this is some "climax") means you've never opened either a history book or seen how persecution or chastisment really is, when it really happens.

Trust me, this is small fry.

God is still letting us get off the hook, if we stop being stupid.

>🅱️ig 🅱️rain centrist take

Yes.

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f5471e  No.843858

>>843857

And before you go how it's all doomed and s—, remember ever metric you can think of has been reached out in various decades the past century, in quite civilized places, that ultimately amounted to nothing(while unrelated minor movement we overlooked became ascendant), by the will of God.

Do your part, ask for forgivness, and stop the drama.

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d3a6fe  No.843894

>>836994

No, it's because of miscegenation.

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5de18c  No.843953

>>843894

I'm curious how a Catholic even manages to reach such a conclusion? Or are you just LARPers trying to make Catholics look bad?

Your own Church embarked on missions to a whole continent (South America, as well as many parts of North America) which resulted in widespread "miscegenation". Are you going to condemn hundreds of millions of your own fellow Catholics now? You even have a saint representing them all: St. Martin de Porres. He was mixed Spanish, Indian, and African. There's also St. John of the Cross and St. Teresa of Avila who both came from families of Spanish-Jews (conversos). Just to name a few. They will all be your judges.

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b7f8e6  No.843954

>>843953

You don't condemn bastards for the sin of their parents adultery

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5de18c  No.843981

>>843954

I expect that from a Southern Baptist. You're usually mean spirited and divisive to begin with. It's just confusing to hear from a Catholic. Even the name of their church (Catholic) means "universal". They tend to place an emphasis on valuing anyone across the earth who simply believe in the same things. It's the anthesis of tribalism or an atheistic emphasis on genetics.

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b7f8e6  No.843982

>>843981

Not condemning bastards for something out of their control is mean spirited and divisive?

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fb0a9d  No.843989

>>843766

Why should western thought be saved? This is a genuine question that no one has given me a satisfactory answer. By this I do not mean whiteness, albeit the two are confused. Slavsq are white but not western, for example. I ask what does western civilization have the others do not that unifies it. I take it to be the view that love is a suffering. I don't believe it is compatible with Christianity, since it demands intoxication instead of sobriety.

Even piety is taken by it to be akin to suffering, think of how suffering is the apex of western Christianity. Be it also physical and mental, in the sense of the Roman stigmata, or mostly mental, as in the Protestant shout-preaching.

Is it something we should preserve? I don't believe so.

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d3a6fe  No.843990

>>843989

I'm Slavic myself (Polish) and can't believe I fell for the meme the west should be saved just for being White. There are other Whites like us Slavs and Poland isn't going anywhere anytime soon. I'm still opposed to miscegenation and hatred for Whites, because the Bible and God are also opposed to those things. Suffering as a goal is clearly opposed to God's design though. He didn't make things hurt so you would keep doing them.

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d3a6fe  No.843991

>>843954

Pretty much this. Mexico might be the result of miscegenation but they're not currently putting up ads with Latinas winnie the pooh tiggers.

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b7f8e6  No.843998

>>843989

Because if nothing else western civilization has led to the greatest prosperity and gospel witness of any civilization in history

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fb0a9d  No.844007

>>843998

The prosperity gospel, as you well put it.

I'm not saying there hasn't been Christians in the western Europe, I'm saying that people weep over its end without analyzing what exactly is there, if there is something at all, to grieve.

I'll I have heard is the idea that western Europe and North America is rich and that it is becoming poorer or, at best, the idea of romantic love as something good.

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b7f8e6  No.844010

>>844007

That's not what prosperity gospel means

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3755fc  No.844014

>>836994

Only working class white males such as myself, especially if autistic, think the West is collapsing, or care about it. I've been meeting lawyers lately and I don't think they think about anything collapsing or care about it, because they think they've got positions secured in the society that's going to replace the current one, they don't give a s— about us that aren't.

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fb0a9d  No.844020

>>844010

The fool will always find refuge in definitions.

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df085a  No.844048

>>836994

Looking at the news brings me to anger. I think anger is justified, but at the same time I know that the media shows only what is most disgraceful.

>>837076

True, but I have to question why wealthy industrialists think a market exists for their goods if everyone outside their clique is flat broke. The economic fundamentals speak of imposed serfdom. I'm beginning to think that revolution is justified; the idea of consolidating power through Federal Reserve usury is clearly not Godly power.

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b7f8e6  No.844063

>>844020

You're obnoxious

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8f3684  No.844090

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how can I have hope in the middle of chaos?

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6639b9  No.844110

>>836994

Considering there going to more Christians in China and Russia. Is the west even worth saving? America and the European Union brought the world nothing but degeneracy and unholiness.

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db3bb6  No.844115

>>844110

There is already more Christians in China than in Germany or France

But we must consider the fact that China is much more secular, and sinful than any of these countries in the west.

God can make good out of evil. Just like he conquered the Roman Empire and made it the Christian Empire, he can take China and the Soviet Union and make two Christian Superpowers out of it.

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ad29d7  No.849428

Always have been

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637b34  No.849521

>>843671

If you don't think this is collapse and persecution I can only conclude you're in league with the enemy.

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048273  No.849525

>>849521

The third century crisis, the viking age, or the rashidun expansion are societal collapse and persecution.

This is just inconvenient.

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b8ee3a  No.849526

>>836994

You're pretty winnie the pooh stupid if you believe 'western civilization' is a think or that 'western' people are responsible for modern advances. The Middle East and Chinese civilizations were centuries ahead of 'western' druids slaughtering Romans.

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637b34  No.849530

>>849525

Yes, yes, I'm sure this will all pass. We totally won't be living in a hellscape 30 years from now. I'll say it again if you aren't already uncomfortable it's because you are a friend to the world.

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f5471e  No.849534

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>>849530

>Yes, yes, I'm sure this will all pass.

Maybe, maybe not.

>We totally won't be living in a hellscape 30 years from now.

Eh, plenty of people have said the same thing in every single decade, and in many cases, they had way more reason to believe it.

Again, maybe we will recover, as we have most times, or some bad thing will accelerate, or maybe some crap we could have never predicted will overcome us faster than we could have expected.

But to quote the ascetic Julian of Norwich 'All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of thing shall be well.'

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