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c783c8  No.836015

Christianity was to never exist in the first place. Religious leaders no longer preach that all our natural actions are sinful. We no longer think sex is dirty. Clearly Christianity can't bring people together in a country that is race driven to hate each other (america)

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a95ba5  No.836016

>>836015

>Religious leaders no longer preach that all our natural actions are sinful.

They aren't. That's a jewish belief. The sin is using them for the wrong purpose like sex for pleasure instead of procreation etc.

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c783c8  No.836017

>>836016

and yet the bible has jewish influence? How come people still decide to stick to a dying faith that apparently doesn't see homosexuality as a sin anymore.

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a95ba5  No.836018

>>836017

I just told you exactly why it's a sin.

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c783c8  No.836019

>>836018

So does the god forgive the priest that perform sexual acts with children?

Let alone consider all the men, women, children, and animals who died to such a virus but of course that was "god's will" I would question was is truly evil.

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4cca0c  No.836020

>>836016

Sex is not just for procreation. It has many Benefits. It’s also very helpful in helping couples forgive each other and move on with minor issues. Sex is also for enjoyment to the hearts content between a husband and wife. It’s also very important for a marriage to stay healthy and protected from infidelity. I only felt the need to say this because this belief of your is non-biblical poison. It’s not anywhere in the Bible. Biblically, it’s clear, a wife is actually not allowed to with hold sex from her husband and a husband is not allowed to ignore the sexual needs of his wife. Sex is one of the physical manifestations of love. The only limit on it is no sex before marriage and your only allowed a heterosexual marriage, with one partner, biblically. What you said is one of the biggest reasons modern christianity is failing. Modern Christianity makes God look excessively cruel.

To summarize your beliefs on sex:

No sex before marriage and afterwards no sex except for procreation.

Clearly no ones going to accept such teachings. They are the stumbling block set by Pharisees. Christianity will never be accepted with these false interpretations. True Christianity shows people God’s laws are not burdensome. There are things you can’t do because God says it’s not Just. But at the same time God gives us gifts that are necessary to enjoy life and love. Without those gifts it’s impossible to love God. Even God wouldn’t blame you if you didn’t love Him and follow Him if what you said is true.

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2000d3  No.836021

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4cca0c  No.836022

>>836021

Perhaps. But now we found something to talk about. Thanks for the warning though. Now we are free to change the direction of this forum.

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a95ba5  No.836025

>>836020

It's not that demanding. They just have to be open to allowing the possibility of a child by not using contraception and not aborting it. Why do you think it's too hard for normies to follow?

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565e4b  No.836027

>>836025

Agree. It is such an easy little thing…but people can't seem to grasp it. Religious life is REALLY an underated vocation. I remember when I was searching on my faith (to be baptized next week or two) I saw a couple videos done by some religious sisters.

…I have never seen such…beautiful creatures I have ever seen…I sometimes dream of creating a military order JUST to protect them….because I know what what seeks to destroy such holy creatures is abominable. Laying a finger on them should be an automatic jail sentence.

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0928e9  No.836028

I don't worship Christianity, I worship Christ.

God does not need us, it us who need him.

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565e4b  No.836030

>>836027

I remember in one video, one religious sister said something that stuck with me ever since. She said that the history of mankind is ONE BIG long story of man trying to find happiness outside of God

WW2, 60's sex revolution, opiate crisis. You said it was Jews in particular. Nonsense, it is the WHOLE. ROTTEN. WORLD. IT Is not a matter of us vs Jews but US vs the prince of the world. He simply uses people, to do his will. It is not simply the Jews who are in revolt. EVERYONE who denies Christ is in revolt, regardless of being Jew or not.

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4cca0c  No.836032

>>836025

Yes it is. People can’t just make child after child just to fulfill their sexual needs. How can you say it’s not demanding? And in bible days men would pull out all the time. There is no law to support what you said. There is no law against contraception. Child bearing takes a huge toll on a women’s body. You can’t just keep getting your wife pregnant every time. And economically you can’t support that kind of lifestyle. You’ll be too poor to properly support the rest of your kids that way. Of course it’s demanding. How can you say it’s not? There are too many dangers in the world and so little time to train 4 children alone from identifying dangers and feeding them and clothing them…etc. to top it off your marriage WILL suffer if you don’t meet your spouses sexual needs. This is all basic things I’m saying. Not demanding to only have sex for procreation? How cruel! To the whole family.

Believe what you like. How will many be able to live with a large family in times like this without at least an acre of land, if they are to only get intimate for procreation? By your rules the following people can never have sex while married:

The sterile and the bearen

Any frail women who is not advised to give birth or she’ll die.

The family with no more room for a child

The family with no money to support a child or another one.

The couple who can’t handle the stress of a child.

Etc.

No sex forever for these people mentioned, even in marriage.

You Catholics shock me with your beliefs. Your always so ready to cause yourselves so much pain, to supposedly show God you love Him. You can’t do that without pain? You know what? Believe what you want to believe. I certainly don’t love you, so why would I correct you? I try to take the whip out of your peoples hands and tell you God doesn’t want you to pain yourselves more than you must and you find a wall to smash your head against while chanting, “See God how I love you, I bruise myself for you God, I know you hate us God, look how well I hurt myself for You!”.

I don’t think I care for your people Catholics. You always find ways to shock me with your beliefs, in the process you teach others to hate God and see him as cruel. Believe whatever you people like. When God asks you why you love Him one day, you won’t be able to answer, you won’t be able to give a good reason.

Better for a man to sin against God and love Him, rather than a man have no reason to love Him. I’m grateful I never went to a catholic for spiritual guidance in my depression, it would’ve killed me or solidify my hatred toward God.

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7b9762  No.836033

Races do not belong together. Consider the parable of the Tower of Babel.

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4cca0c  No.836035

>>836033

That’s much different. That’s a isolated example. Then the Jews were told to stick with their own tribes. Then Jesus killed that law and made it so that we can mix with anyone as long as they are also a true Christian. Even I, who is new to this messaging board, can see your a troll. Are you the guy that just posted that gay porn on here? Such a cheap trick.

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a95ba5  No.836038

>>836035

>Then Jesus killed that law

No he didn't. Ethnostates are very in line with Logos.

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4cca0c  No.836040

>>836035

I’m very open to changing my mind on this issue. Because I prefer to marrying in my own race. But I don’t want to waste your time. So first whatever you have in the New Testament on this issue that can support you I’m all ears. Here’s what I need to first reconcile, “marry in the lord”. I need to read the chapters surrounding this. I can’t think of any other order given in NT on the subject. So you got a good shot at changing my mind. It’ll have to be with scripture though.

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4cca0c  No.836041

>>836040

Let me find that ‘marry in the lord’. Don’t remember where it was.

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4cca0c  No.836042

>>836038

There is also a phenomenon your going to have to explain to me regarding life. It’s not a biblical belief of mine but it’ll also be hard to debunk.

Remember when I said life teaches you what’s blessed or not? Well. The most beautiful people in the world (Actors, models, celebrities, that person we often have a crush on…) are all a mix of races. Very few are thoroughbred. Ridiculously few. Why does God do this if it’s not something he likes?

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c783c8  No.836043

>>836020

>Sex is not just for procreation. It has many Benefits. It’s also very helpful in helping couples forgive each other and move on with minor issues. Sex is also for enjoyment to the hearts content between a husband and wife. It’s also very important for a marriage to stay healthy and protected from infidelity. I only felt the need to say this because this belief of your is non-biblical poison. It’s not anywhere in the Bible. Biblically, it’s clear, a wife is actually not allowed to with hold sex from her husband and a husband is not allowed to ignore the sexual needs of his wife. Sex is one of the physical manifestations of love. The only limit on it is no sex before marriage and your only allowed a heterosexual marriage, with one partner, biblically. What you said is one of the biggest reasons modern christianity is failing. Modern Christianity makes God look excessively cruel.

Clearly One hundred years ago you would have been charged with heresy by talking about "beneficial sex in terms of after an argument with you love one.. you are literally breaking two sins which are anger and lust..

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2ce5dd  No.836045

>>836043

In other threads a person using the same name as this guy has been saying that the Bible only exists in a corrupted state and saying that Paul was wrong about things, such as what he says in 1 Corinthians 7.

A person using the same name as this guy has also posted things in other threads that deny the nature of God, saying that the place in John 16:13 where the Holy Spirit is referred to as "he," in the nominative masculine pronoun, is incorrect.

Now a person using the same name in this thread is trying to act like he is following the Bible.

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428842  No.836049

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>>836043

Anger isn't intrinsically sinful. In some cases lack of anger is a sin.

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0e1431  No.836052

>>836015

If more atheists took their beliefs to their logical conclusion, they wouldn't consider anything to be wrong because "wrong" is nothing more than an ultimately arbitrary personal preference. I find it difficult to take them seriously when they criticise anything.

>>836015

2006 called

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1994f4  No.836454

>>836015

>>836015

>Christianity was to never exist in the first place.

As dictated by whom and why should we care?

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b07d0a  No.836455

>>836454

Op is a kike and that's the exact reason Christianity came to power. The synoptics are some of the most evil books you could ever worship and even paint jews as a unified homogenous hivemind, but the antisemitism in the rest of the NT turns out to be so healthy that even with all the antiwisdom in the first three gospels Christianity outcompeted the rest of the other religions. Jews are just that harmful that hating them is better for your survival and proliferation than being smart.

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ca0469  No.836464

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Christ lives.

It is you who is dead.

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ca0469  No.836465

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>>836043

Homosexual post.

https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2016/12/21/like-a-rutting-buck/

>I want to look at what the Bible says. As several readers have noted, Song of Solomon literally sings the praises of the pleasure of marital sex. But even aside from Song of Solomon, there is also Proverbs 5. As with 1 Cor 7, the proverb starts by warning against sexual immorality and then exhorts the believer to direct their sexual passion as rightfully designed, into marriage:

>This isn’t cold sex only to conceive a child, or mere duty sex. It also isn’t a picture of sex “purified” by romantic love. This is sex with great physical passion. The proverb exhorts husbands to rejoice in their wives’ bodies:

>Contrary to the argument that sexual passion is sinful if it isn’t carefully constrained, husbands are exhorted to be intoxicated with passion for their wives. The proverb offers the example to follow of a buck in the rut. For how else can we interpret this exhortation?

>Certainly the proverb isn’t encouraging bestiality, but exhorting husbands to approach their wives with the same kind of passion a rutting buck has for a doe.

>Aside from Song of Solomon and Proverbs 5, we also learn from Ecclesiastes 9:7-10 that marital sex, along with food and wine, are gifts from God, as they are our earthly reward:

>This comes from Ecclesiastes, the book that teaches that our earthly lives are vanity. Yet even while teaching that what matters is the spiritual, it still exhorts us to enjoy the physical pleasures of food, wine, and marital sex. These are it tells us, God’s portion for us for our earthly toil.

https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2019/01/21/call-me-unchivalrous/

>Where Christianity teaches that marriage makes sex and sexual desire moral, chivalry originally taught that the only pure expression of sexual passion occurred within adultery.

>Where Christianity commends raw sexual passion between a husband and his wife, and even uses animal imagery to describe how this should look, chivalry teaches that romantic love is superior to the Bible’s sexual passion because it is focused on emotion.

>Where Christianity teaches that sex outside of marriage is sinful and shameful, chivalry teaches that it is more noble than married sex so long as it is sanctified by romantic love. Chivalry also teaches that women’s sexual desires are inherently moral, that a woman’s sexual desire for a man is proof of the man’s virtue, and that a good man will not slut shame.

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