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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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079ca5  No.822615

Was impregnating Mary and having her child be a blood sacrifice to himself the only way humanity could be saved? What if jesus had never been killed?

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1d165d  No.822616

>>822615

>Was impregnating Mary and having her child be a blood sacrifice to himself the only way humanity could be saved?

Yes. He’s made it clear that only blood can pay for sin, and it stands to reason that only the death of something infinitely perfect can pay for our infinite sins.

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079ca5  No.822620

>>822616

Does he need blood to "pay for sin" because that is a rule he is subjected to or because that is something he decided on?

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d03007  No.822627

>>822620

You can ask God if you make it to heaven.

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073837  No.822630

>>822620

We don't know, it's all part of the beautiful mystery!

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489e2a  No.822634

>>822620

That is His nature, pure and simple.

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0b2939  No.822639

>>822634

>That is His nature, pure and simple.

not sure how pure it is to be honest, lots of people wrestle with coming to terms with god's desire for blood sacrifice in the bible

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dea2ed  No.822644

One drop of His Precious Blood would have been enough. He instead chose the most brutal torture in order to show us how much He loves us. It's tragic that the entire world is not on its knees every Good Friday thanking God Almighty.

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c731f2  No.822672

>>822620

Yes, God alluded to it all throughout the Old Testament (from the Scapegoat for Abraham to the purification laws). Jesus is the fullfillment of the law and the sacrifice to end all sacrifices.

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d4325a  No.822676

He could have done it any way, but this was the way He deemed good, right, and best from before all ages.

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4b9d86  No.822678

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8c87db  No.822679

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Yes, It's called Deification, atonement theories are nutty.

BEGOME ORDODOX

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8c87db  No.822683

>>822679

I'm retarded, I didn't answer your question.

>Was impregnating Mary and having her child be a blood sacrifice to himself the only way humanity could be saved?

The Incarnation indeed was the only way that humanity could be redeemed, through the union of the Divine and human natures in the Divine person of the Logos, the hypostatic union.

But Christ is no sacrifice unto God (watch the video on the previous post), but His sacrifice was indeed necessary so that death might be defeated and we might not rot in Hades for all eternity, research Christus Victor and the Orthodox doctrine of Theosis.

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4a9ead  No.822704

This is one part secular society gets backwards, they always have satanists doing animal sacrifice and blood sacrifice but satan never asks for that in the bible only God

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c731f2  No.822706

>>822704

Technically satan did in regards to the various false gods he was able to fool humanity into worshiping (Moloch and burning babies alive comes to mind).

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6cbb7a  No.822720

>>822708

>when did satan tell people to worship moloch?

When said people were in a society worshipping moloch and he whispered "conform"

Just as he does today when people worship whatever idols are present in contemporary society.

It doesn't have to be written in scripture to be true.

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05f7e9  No.822757

>>822754

>t. Bible-idolater

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3a4fbb  No.822762

>>822757

Mooooo

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6fee02  No.822779

>>822615

As omnipotent being, God could have done anything, and as omniscient being, God knew it would work.

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cce3ce  No.823024

>>822639

Lots of people are retarded and childish

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1d0c82  No.823026

>>822779

I wonder how he came to the conclusion that having his son killed and a ritual of drinking his blood would work?

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3a4fbb  No.823028

>>823026

*Clutches pearls*

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97d8bc  No.823088

>>823026

Read Leviticus and Deuteronomy. The sacrifices in the law was ment to atone for individual sins. Jesus was the perfect sacrifice to end all sacrifices. Thanks to Him we no longer have to kill sheep or doves to appease God. We just have to love Him and listen to His commandments.

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382eca  No.823108

>>823107

We need God. It was simply a method for atonement well understood by the cultures of the time.

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