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689375  No.821929

I have a friend who is from India. What is the best way to tell them about Jesus so they won't wind up excluded in the afterlife?

https://youtu.be/JvVAV09-dQ8

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614eda  No.821937

Historically, it's been done mainly two ways:

-First, make them see they're already Christian. Show them that they already praise God. If they are religious, "spiritual" or whatever, they are more than likely to be already following God in some misguided way. Find out what virtues they exalt in their religion, and see how those same virtues appear in Christianity, either in Jesus or in some saints. That way they can distill the values they find important and live them in a Christian way.

-Secondly, make them see they're adoring idols and that's an obstacle between them and divinity. Again, try to understand how they live their religion, and figure out where their beliefs hold them away from God. Remember that you're not bringing them to your religion, but bringing them to religion. There's only one God. You're helping them improve their relationship with Him, not making them forget their old gods and substitute them for a new one.

For this you'll need a deep, firm understanding of Christianity, both spiritually and intellectually. You'll need quite a decent grasp of philosophy and know about your friend's beliefs and religion. Remember that you're not there to win an argument, nor to score conversion points. You're there to explore, together with your friend, how to get closer to God.

And pray God, pray a lot so he may deliver you from arrogance. Evangelizes often come out as arrogant, people who, in pristine white clothing, come down to the mud where the plebs dwell so they might enlight the rest of humanity with their grace and perfection. It's a big fat trap, and it's really easy to fall into it to some extent.

Lastly, and most importantly, preach by example.

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3a2523  No.821964

This is what happens when hundreds of years pass and Christendom collectively forgets its minority origins in a multicultural milieu.

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5846d8  No.821972

>>821937

> First, make them see they're already Christian.

wat

> Show them that they already praise God.

wat

> If they are religious, "spiritual" or whatever, they are more than likely to be already following God in some misguided way.

wat

> Find out what virtues they exalt in their religion, and see how those same virtues appear in Christianity, either in Jesus or in some saints.

wat

> That way they can distill the values they find important and live them in a Christian way.

wat

someone put a flag on this guy so i can know exactly which kinda heretic he is

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8dcaab  No.822039

>>821972

He's right though

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6bf916  No.822045

Scientology > Judaism > Hinduism > Islam > Atheism > Whatever I Forgot > Christianity.

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614eda  No.822055

>>821972

>thinks there are other gods apart from God

>thinks idols are real

>thinks there can be any kind of religiosity that's not guided by the Holy Spirit

>thinks that the need for God is not present in every man that lives and has lived

>thinks there can be virtues that don't emanate from God

Writes with Reddit spacing and, apparently, the dog ate the Shift key of his keyboard

I get the feeling you don't fully understand the religion you claim to profess.

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5846d8  No.822118

File: 107e34fc8aea772⋯.gif (4.56 MB, 430x286, 215:143, someone get this guy a fla….gif)

>>822055

i get the feeling that asking direct answers of you will be like trying to pin down a sky dancer since you've already attempted to deflect my questions with the reddit-spacing meme, but assuming you see your bullet-point responses to my query of 'wat' as sufficient grounding for your claims, i would like to take a closer look at them

< First, make them see they're already Christian.

> thinks there are other gods apart from God

bearing in mind that you said the historical approach to sharing the Christian faith followed the model you laid out, can you provide examples of when the Apostles or Early Church Fathers addressed unbelievers as if they were already Christian, basing their presupposition on the fact that there are no other gods apart from God

< Show them that they already praise God.

> thinks idols are real

do you have examples of when God accepted worship given to idols as legitimate spirituality?

< If they are religious, "spiritual" or whatever, they are more than likely to be already following God in some misguided way.

> thinks there can be any kind of religiosity that's not guided by the Holy Spirit

this is an interesting one given that you seem to hold that religious sensibility in any form is prompted by the Holy Spirit, how would you characterize a false religion?

< Find out what virtues they exalt in their religion, and see how those same virtues appear in Christianity, either in Jesus or in some saints.

> thinks that the need for God is not present in every man that lives and has lived

if a religion sees it as a virtue to eat the brains of their enemies so as to gain their spiritual power, in an effort to satiate that universal need for God you speak of, where could we see that more properly modelled for us by Jesus or the saints?

< That way they can distill the values they find important and live them in a Christian way.

> thinks there can be virtues that don't emanate from God

not to labor the point, but if i held the practice of cannibalism as one of my most important religious values, how would i go about eating the brains of my enemies in a more Christian way?

is it instead possible that what man might hold as a virtue, may not in fact emanate from God, so allowing a sinful man to pick and choose his mores thence to stamp a facade of Christianity upon them, might not be the best approach if one wants to guide him into the rightful worship done in spirit and truth?

and again, i'd really like to know which branch of christianity you hail from

>>822039

>He's right though

interesting, care to have a crack at answering any of my questions?

also; which branch of christianity do you adhere to?

>>822045

you've got your 'greater thans' pointing the wrong way m8

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83ab3f  No.822121

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>821972

>>822118

>which branch of christianity do you adhere to?

If the similarity with vid related is anything to go by, Imma guess Catholic.

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5846d8  No.822123

>>822121

not slighting you as a phone-poster, but you've got a new unique ID there, anon; so i'm not sure which of my two new BFFs i'm speaking with

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83ab3f  No.822124

>>822123

I don't claim to be either of them, just pointing out that what they're saying sounds oddly familiar to stuff I've heard before.

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83ab3f  No.822125

File: 90a99426f68178e⋯.jpg (68.38 KB, 180x285, 12:19, HERROSESE-02.jpg)

>>822124

>familiar

similar*

Also, apologies for the lack of clarity, I can see how my original post is worded ambiguously. I've just been interested in the development of this "hindu-flavored christianity" phenomenon ever since reading pic related.

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89ec3b  No.822297

>>822118

Your points would be valid questions if you didn't misunderstand the original post, so I will just expand on what he said ( or at least how I interpreted it )

Natural law is written in the hearts of every man. Someone seeking a higher moral truth (I.e. someone spiritual) already believes in the good God, but does not know His name or know for sure that it is Jesus Christ. We are not talking about occultists, saturn worshippers, etc. What I gathered from the post I agreed with is we are talking about someone who seeks goodness and seeks a relationship with the divine. It's important this person understands there is a God, who is love, and you can have a personal relationship with him. They may not be "Christian" but God created them to have communion with Him. Until you share the gospel with people who are open enough to believe in spirituality, they will continue to worship idols which they think is God. To say otherwise would suggest christianity is alien to mankind. I obviously don't think they should partake in communion or call themselves christians without going through the sacraments, and I would never suggest that.

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f18757  No.822324

>>822121

Is nobody going to talk about how contra 'extra Ecclesiam nulla salus' this video from a self described catholic is?

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f18757  No.822326

>>822299

holy cow I'd chuckl'd a bit up until 1min 8secs in when I was forced to let rip substantial belly laughs, this is gold

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f18757  No.822331

>>822326

>>822299

it's got to be fake/acting

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d9dd06  No.822333

>>822299

That was cringe but absolutely hilarious

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4ee6b8  No.822614

>>822333

based trips

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44a33a  No.822646

Become educated about their religion. Try to breach their heart using their padagrim. Slowly christpill them and then offer up apologetics. They will see the wrong of their religion themselves. Don't attack their religion directly as an opening, because it just opens up defenses that will be hard to tear down. Let them see themselves why they are wrong once they've come to accept logical parameters borne out of knowing Christ.

Read Acts for a good example. I forgot the exact chapter, but Paul comes to Greeks who have so many gods that they made an altar to the "unknown" god. Paul uses this as an entryway to preaching the one true God, appealing to their existing padagrim of thought.

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7f433d  No.822782

reminder hindus are not saved

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3a04bd  No.823033

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74e305  No.823128

this is why religion bothers me. i couldn't give less winnie the poohs about what you personally believe in, but for some reason, they can't keep to themselves. here's a tip: if your friend is already religious, he most likely couldn't care winnie the pooh less about yours. the same goes for anyone. literally anyone. how would you feel if he attempted to convert you to Hinduism? would you feel that you needed to be saved from your current beliefs? no? i'm preaching to the choir here, but still. please be considerate about those around you. thanks.

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74e305  No.823129

also gotta say, the winnie the pooh thing actually got a chuckle out of me. dunno if this is site-wide, but thanks to the implementer

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94b46d  No.823144

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>>823128

>>823129

>People who follow other religious beliefs are going to go to hell

>I care about these people, therefore I don't want them to go to hell

<uhh just like live your life??ww?? hoka hey

Even on a caveman, scared of the big stick, primitive, ignoring the spiritual contentment and growth of love in faith that comes with Christianity, there is an incentive to convert other people to Christ.

Preaching to the choir? There's no majority on your side here.

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93b201  No.823190

I have family members who were not catholic at the times of their deaths but I was too young to save them. It pains me greatly to know they are suffering in hell for all eternity but I have faith in Jesus that they must deserve it

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614eda  No.823213

>>823190

They can be saved by your love. God is love, literally. By loving them sincerely, even when they've left this world, you can bring them a bit closer to God. Pray for their souls, anon.

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dd4789  No.823256

>>823213

He said they were already in Hell anon

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