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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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5993be  No.820385

I'm basically a nihilist and a doomer in every way except that I'm a Christian and hope for the resurrection.

I used to care about politics and things like that but now I don't. There's no point. Life sucks and it's just going to get worse from hereon out, both personally and nationally/globally. There's nothing I can do about it, so caring a lot and getting myself worked up about world events, or wallowing in self pity for my life situation is pointless hard work.

I don't care about my social standing, money, or really anything else. Nothing matters at all in the end. Dust to dust, and all that. Lay not your treasure where moths and rust corrupt, etc etc. But I don't behave and think this way because the bible told me to. I behave and think like this because I personally have come to the conclusion, like many people on websites like this (most of whom aren't Christians), that nothing matters at all. It's my own neuroses that make me like this, not the result of submitting to God.

I feel 100% that if this were somehow a godless universe that is *actually* completely devoid of meaning, the best course of action would be suicide. If there were truly no meaning to life, I would rather die than distract myself constantly with material things like most atheists do.

Thank God, though, that God is real, and there's a point to life. I identify with all the nihilist blackpill sentiment that you can easily surround yourself with on the internet but my difference is that I add a little addendum to the paragraphs of doom and despair. A thousand word blogpost to /doomer/ about painful existences with soul-sucking jobs and depression just makes it all the more powerful to end it with "but we have hope in God"

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9ba27c  No.820392

>>820385

I agree with a lot of this, as a matter of fact, it was becoming Christian that made me realize that most of what I thought was important was my own neuroticism, and that Love is all that matters. The rest of everything else is as trivial as the rising and setting of the sun, or the murmur of wind.

However I do see that most people possess the wisdom of Ecclesiastes in a minor degree, just because most people are lazy. Yes, this is not a bad thing, rather what worldly people call laziness is just indifference, and it comes about when people start asking questions. Questions like "is this really important work?" Or, "who will be fed by my action or inaction?" This is often the first step on the path to God for industrialized people who begin by thinking of work. Unfortunately most get stuck by the brute fact that they won't be remembered. This is because they start by asking "what's in it for me?" rather than asking what will please God.

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54fe09  No.820605

>>820385

Yea I feel in a similar way, complete apathy in regards to the world is basically the only logical outcome as soon as you realise how temporal it is when compared to God. Worldly things such as food and video games are enjoyable but it doesn't last more than a moment, not to mention everyone is going to die and every earthly civilization that will exist will crumble.

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509948  No.820626

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You pseudo homo. You must listen lest you be swallowed by the tides of darkness that washes across your soul.

You must find joy in being with other people, your friends, your loved ones, family if you have one. You must associate some kind of pleasure to being around them and talking to them. Yeah, I don't know you or your life experiences but know this. If you do not change your nihilistic ways through your habits and actions then you will fall away. If all that keeps you loyal to God is some eventual Damnation then you will curse everything that God has to offer.

If God, The almighty created the world and its good things, then you are logically obligated to love it.

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f43644  No.820647

>>820626

Feel really bad for those who live by themselves, even ones who are ignored or flat out rejected by family.

>all my relatives don't want me unless it's to show up to a funeral to pay respects

>siblings and parents do not care about my spiritual walk let alone their own, cannot talk to family about anything serious because of how much of an issue they have with me as if i'm some benign cyst

>All my friends ditched me for being "too religious".

Some people just have nothing but God to live for, the pleasures of the world have shown themselves lacking of the fullness of Christ's furfilling love and abounding mercy and grace, damn us all you want but the world is not our pleasure, we're outcasts lostboys seeking a final home.

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9ba27c  No.820661

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>>820626

Disagree, oddly enough if civilization is going to continue for any length of time, if anyone is going to be truly civilized, then total renunciation of and forgetting about the world is a necessity.

People think that by ramping up each others anxieties by involving them in worldly affairs is going to help, but in fact it does the opposite; in fact negative emotions just dissipate and divide one's labours on worries and things beyond the control of the individual. Nobody's saying you shouldn't have friends – a Christian alone is no Christian – and nobody's saying that you shouldn't be constantly moved by Charity, but Christianity doesn't demand that you take on any cares you don't want to.

Also, no, you're not obligated to love the good things of the world, you're obligated to love God. The Saviour is quite clear on this; remember he asked "what is more sacred, the temple gold, or the temple which sanctifies it?" You can apply this anywhere and to anything though. What is worthy of love? wine, or the God who made the grapes? Clearly if you love the wine, you tend to drunkenness, but if you love the God who made the grapes, then you won't overindulge & injure yourself by getting drunk. So it is always God we should have in mind, and never love any created thing, even love of people must rank second to the love of God. Clearly Jesus meant this also when he said "he who does not hate his brother, his mother and father, yea even his own life, then he cannot be my disciple." It would be an obscure saying, but the phrase "yea, even his own life" makes it perfectly clear that everything must rank less than God, and all thanks must go to Him for anything we like and find lovely on earth.

>>820647

I pray you find some new and less judgemental friends anon.

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92d1ea  No.821422

>>820385

OP, get your head out of the high brow pseudointellectual CRAP and get the winnie the pooh outside. Get a dog and go jogging every day, stop thinking about shit

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2b27f9  No.821526

I've been in this rut on and off for a while now, where I dwell too much on who would miss me if I was gone, what am I worth, etc. etc.

Of course I'm not thinking about my worth in the eyes of God.

Anyway, I realize it's a kind of selfishness, really.

Just wanted to add my comment, since I've been struggling but I think I'm coming out of it a bit.

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9ba27c  No.821544

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>>821526

Well, if you're dwelling on what you can't control, that's not so great. Part of being poor in spirit though is throwing off those illusions, and being reconciled to your actual worthlessness.

Idk, I'm new to it, but I feel genuinely happier. Which is weird, since before I thought it was a terrible thing that even if I were missed by many people, that eventually I'd be forgotten anyway. Oddly I'm not depressed or upset thinking about this anymore, but I actually think that it's a really good thing.

It was hard seeing the downsides to fame at first, but when I consider that even the most famous will one day be as if they never existed, it seems that there is really nothing to recommend fame any more than there is to build a Mausoleum, or to spend any other worry on what happens after you die. If the worry is therefore based on lies, if it's almost a perversion of our desire for genuine love while we are alive, then, while it may not be a bad thing in itself, wouldn't it be awful if in order to be famous you also had to be damned to hell? Seems like a bad trade; to shun God's genuine love for sinners, in favour of people's insincere idolization (yes, on their part it is idolatry).

Pic unrelated, except that Diogenes did have similar points, but drew some bizarre conclusions from them, such as living in a barrel.

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2b27f9  No.822545

>>821544

checked

Thanks for the response.

(I'm currently still mulling over the post, just wanted to say thanks.)

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75177d  No.822597

>>820385

Get out of your own heading over yourself. being black pilled is no different than being a sodomite

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