/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

What are some good 2D engines?

Hopefully, I'll be making a 2D puzzle game with friends soon, but the only one I've ever heard of was live2D.

>>29102

I don't think you're ready to make a game with friends if you need to ask this question.

Gamemaker (most popular 2d engine)

Unity (probably most popular indie engine)

Construct 2 (babby steps engine that doesn't require coding)

Godot (free and open source engine)

>>29102

Thanks, I had completely forgotten about unity and game maker.

Half the group quit in the first three planning sessions we had, so there's that. The remaining ones each have something they're good at and they're hyped for it though, so there's at least a bit of hope.

>>29104

Yes, I meant to say LOVE 2D.

https://github.com/guildhall/guile-sly

Sly is a 2d game engine based on high level language called Guile. Or, you could call it a Lisp derivative programming language.

>>29159

I dunno if I'd use for production level stuff, but it looks fantastic for prototyping.

>>29181

>zero coding

I recommend you go through one of the codecademy tutorials before you get too much into gamemaker itself. It'll teach you the basics of how code works and how to use a programming language.

I think Javascript is most close to the language that Gamemaker uses. I think you need to make an account but codecademy's tutorials are some of the best ones for beginners IMO.

https://www.codecademy.com/learn/javascript

After you can do that, then it's mostly just up to following tutorials and googling (you'll be doing that a lot) when you're stuck or don't know how to do something. The exact direction you should go to depends completely on what kind of game you want to make. If you want to make a platformer, you'll probably want to start by making a box that can move and jump around, but if you want to make a card game then a jumping box won't be useful at all. Game dev is kind of a creative process like art; you learn how to use the tools, and then it's up to you to figure out how to make a game with them and what kind of game to make.

What are good game dev libraries for Java and good GUIs for C++?

>>29080

>Language wars will be removed

>only language resources posted are for high level (aka terrible for serious gamedev) languages

>really makes you think

put a link to "The C Programming Language" and "The C++ Programming Language"

>>29200

>doesn't provide link

It's as if there's a reason this hypothetical link isn't there

Actually on the topic of the links, here's some updates that could be made to them:

Engines:

source code for some id Software's games (Doom, Quake, etc)

https://github.com/id-Software

Xenko (new-ish 3d/2d game engine similar to Unity/Unreal)

https://xenko.com/

Construct 2 (visual scripting 2D engine)

https://www.scirra.com/

Audio:

Mattmcfarland link needs a "www." at the beginning or it won't work

Change machinimasound link to this or else you get paid music: https://machinimasound.com/legacy-tracks/

Add https://www.fantasymusica.org/

>>29204

Done.

>>29200

>terrible for serious gamedev

Well sure, but this is for amateur gamedev. If you want serious gamedev, OpenGL and UE4 is often coupled with C/C++.

I'll move the mod notes somewhere less intrusive.

What's the best way to go about breaking into the industry as a writer or musician?

>>29210

The best way is just like make game.

Use a babby tier game engine if you can't program.

Good tips on how to sort out game states? Like a turn based SRPG?

>>29080

Why do you not have a C++ entry OP? It's a very important language for vidya.

>>29212

Finite State Machines?

>>29229

Link me a good resource and I'll add it.

Does anyone have the resources for the Gamemaker's Companion book? I found a pdf of the book, but not with all of the stuff from Zool (sprites etc) that was on the CD that came with it.

>>29235

http://turing.com.br/etc/gm/companion/

Is this what you are looking for?

>>29240

Yeah, I think the resources are in there somewhere. Thanks!

Hey /agdg/, what are some of the more weird or infuriating things you've experienced using GML in Gamemaker Studio? I am trying to reverse a game made in GMS, and any information on how GML works (or doesn't) as a programming language would be pretty valuable.

This post is an example of what I'm talking about:

https://8ch.net/prog/res/1961.html#2112

>>29270

GM is far from perfect but most of these complaints seem like they come from a programmer; GM is made to appeal to a wide demographic and be easy to use. Having all variables be weakly typed does not really impact performance, nor even needing to make objects to hold scripts. You can make like one "PlayerControl" object that updates every frame and that's it.

I don't know about the garbage-controlled part, but that post was also made in 2015 and GM just had a new version some months ago, maybe that's something that was fixed. He's talking about 7.0 and older, nobody would or should ever use that anymore. They stopped selling and supporting GM Studio 1.4 (the "Studios" came out after 8.1 I think) now that 2 is out.

Also I admittedly have no idea what an external DLL is, so that's not an issue for me.

Here's some details on the changes in GML :

http://help.yoyogames.com/hc/en-us/articles/231539867-GameMaker-Studio-2-New-Functions-List

http://help.yoyogames.com/hc/en-us/articles/231738328-GameMaker-Studio-2-Obsolete-Function-List

The basic thing you have to understand about GML is that scripts are functions. They also have automatically 15 arguments that are adressed as "argument0" to "14". So send variables in parentheses then just use "argumentX" in the script, there's no "declaring" the arguments.

Another weird thing that you have to pay attention to is variables :

- global vars are always declared and assigned with "global.varName"

- "var varName" is a local and will disappear outside the script

- "varName" with nothing before is considered a member of an object. So if you're inside a script that's not being read from an object, it won't work.

I'd say, at least for me, the problems with GM is that it's not simple enough and is lacking some functionality, like runtime autotiling, weighted A*, or a depth system for basic topdown RPG decoration items like trees (so the hero is in front of them when lower, etc.).

>>29080

Please list in the engines Urho3D too

https://urho3d.github.io/

Guess this is a good thread to ask: are there any good beginner friendly websites/files I could access to study VR programming and design? I think I might have to study C++ again but what else should I study on? Reason I'm starting this isn't exactly to make a game but to make my own personalized 'home' where I can escape after work. Saw some VR games like robo recall and was pretty impressed by how well designed VRs came along.

>>29304

Give a %resource per hit/damage or something similar, possibly with small bonuses for cooperative

If it takes many hits divy up at the kill/etc

Negative bonus for obvious last-minute steals from weak players, eg <10-20% of the hits/damage

>>29307

It would need all the usual 3d graphic stuff, i think the only difference would be the pair of screens / "world cameras" and how to throw the pictures up on the device

https://developers.google.com/vr/

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/WebVR_API

>>29304

Have XP gaining activities that can only be performed by multiple people and provide increased yield. For example several people can operate a mining machine/drilling apparatus that will mine ore more efficiently than if they were all individually picking away at rocks (ore and XP can then be divied up among the operators).

>>29317

Pygame is the Python equivalent of the SDL library. I like Python and I like SDL though I haven't exactly used Pygame. Take the time to learn Pygame and gain experience. It is through experience that you learn the most important lessons through your analysis of your mistakes. While I haven't exactly used Pygame, I would guess that learning Pygame won't be a mistake or a waste of time.

>>29317

In a software engineering class my group made a Galaga clone in pygame.

The final result was decent enough, and working on it was never exactly challenging on my part.

You basically just create whatever classes you'll use in the game, then put some logic to use or update them in the main game loop. It was honestly less of a learning curve than working with Unity's 2D.

>>29327

>>29325

Thanks for the help!

>>29362

Nevermind, happy to say I found the issue. Seems another script that was calling the object was referencing a prefab instead of the current paddle in the scene. It all makes so much sense now. Still, I think typing it out helped as it often will.

>>29080

Here's a pretty decent tutorial for both C and C++.

http://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial.html

Also I think it might be worth it to add a command prompt introduction, since you probably need to use it for compiled languages. Here's a pretty good one I found.

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/courses/archive/spr05/cos126/cmd-prompt.html

It would be nice to also have something for the linux terminal, but I can't find a very straightforward tutorial.

>>29462

>I've never worked in any kind of game development ever

You're probably biting on more than you can chew. I don't know how RPG maker works, but looking at other people's code before you're familiar with coding yourself gets very overwhelming very fast. Especially if you don't get commented source code.

>>29464

>You're probably biting on more than you can chew.

Probably. RPG maker is piss easy to control, even a retard could do it, specially after reading the tutorials and fucking around with it myself. I also know that towerfag, the original dev, used public scripts with probably minimum change to fit the game.

The problem is that even thoughI was able to extract the art assets from the game decrypted file, I can't do a lot with it using the editor. It would be easier to edit the whole thing if I had access to the game file directly from the RPG maker editor, but it doesn't recognize the file for some reason. Refer to my "progress" here >>>/hgg/123062

>>29189

That's fucking disgusting. Why is it even allowed on this board?

Any of you learn how to effectively extend the Unity Editor to help development? I had a book i was reading on the topic but i lost it. suggested replacement material?

>>29304

For the case of specifically mining. When two or more people are grouped up, have some bleed through ore given. So if Player1 is mining, then Player 1 get a single unit of ore, and player 2 gets a counter of 1/x ore. This means the group activity should in theory increase the amount of ore you mine as a group.

>>29304

Yeah this:

>>29311

Is a good idea. Even your example of runescape had this with minigames such as Fishing Trawler and Blast Furnace. How about having certain spots in skilling locations reserved for group activities that hasten the exp gain or increase yield.

>>29317

Pygame is excellent both as a learning tool and as an engine for simpl-ish 2D games (I've done bullet hells with it, no lag at all).

And since it's python, you're get the benefit of being able to implement your ideas quicker than in lower level languages.

First time here. Decided to force myself to make a very simple game to take a break from my main game.

Would like to see if anybody's got some fun and engaging ideas for structuring progress in a simple game (so it's not just an infinite level with score) with one to two mechanics. I don't play a lot of games any more (30 yo) and only ever played "big" PC games, so I don't have a lot of ideas for casual games other than infinite + score and straight up levels.

Any way, my game idea is you have a series of randomly placed dots/orbs/whatever you have to protect from enemies by clicking them and dragging the mouse to boot up a shield in the opposite direction. Maybe pressing spacebar explodes the shield and sends a physics based missile to collect powerups.

>>29684

Make a task list, excel will work.

You could make a general TODO list, or just set aside what you want to do for the day. If you got anothing on the list and can't think of anything, play through the game once, and figure out what polish it needs not to suck.

>>29729

>>29684

If you ever set up a repo for your code/project (and you should, you never know when your HDD will fail, niggers will rob you, or your house will burn down), Github has a pretty nice "Projects" feature that lets you basically make a little pinned noteboard and shuffle notes around with rows and columns, and it even has integrated support for its own bugtracking stuff. Pretty nifty.

Although, some people don't like Github because SJW mods can shut down a hateful project, and that your project must be public (not necessarily open source - but people will still steal from it) unless you pay for it.

Overall, for what it does do, it's pretty solid

>>29745

gitgud.io is the repo i use.

So, I've got 2 ideas and I'm wondering how best to implement them.

First idea is stripped-down turn-based strategy game. I want it to be on a grid system and have very simple rules, and have both the option of both local 1v1 multiplayer and vs an AI. I want to use this as a way of getting used to and started with an engine.

Second idea is a fast-paced platformer. The general idea of it is that you have an 8-directional airdash which is faster than your ground movement, and you can collect powerups to temporarily give you more airdashes. There will be no combat mechanics, all enemies will be there solely to be avoided, and boss levels will generally be survival tests or pursuit levels with the boss shouting at you to get back here and fight properly.

The thing about this is that I want to learn a useful skill while making these games. I already have a solid programming foundation with C-based languages, but I need practice.

Would Unity be a good engine to start with here? If not, what engine would you suggest?

>>29808

Unity or unreal would work. Unity uses C#, where Unreal uses C++. Pick your poison.

>>29189

Why is stuff like this even allowed?

Programming resources/blogs:

http://bitsquid.blogspot.nl/

>Data Oriented Design Engine & Rendering development

http://seanmiddleditch.com/

>Mostly C++ stuff

https://gafferongames.com/

>Excellent posts about game networking

https://0fps.net/category/programming/

>Strong focus on math

https://blog.molecular-matters.com/

>Data Oriented Design engine development

https://blog.forrestthewoods.com/

>RTS game programmer, talks about various things

Good 2D physics engine that integrates easily:

https://github.com/erincatto/Box2D

I want to create an RPG. I'm more interested in developing the combat system than anything. Does Gamemaker allows me to do so or should I got with something or just use it to prototype?

>>30009

Maybe you could try to confine yourself to a smaller amount of pixels first? 16x16, 32x32?

My fellow devs, i need help. I'm a programmer, not an artist and have only a little experience with blender. This is a problem because i am my 3d modeling artist. Anyone got links to daily modeling challenges or something like it?

>>30041

>with better combat: better combat edition

Forgive me it is late and I must sleep. I meant tech demo edition. Feel free to leave some (you)'s to that post with suggestions though if you want. Polite sage for double post.

How do I into python?

I feel like I have no idea what I'm doing, and bruteforcing the code academy exercises

>>30133

If you already know how to install libraries and stuff go ahead and download pyGame, then follow Kris Occhipinti's pyGame tutorials to go from noob to pro in python game development.

While his tutorial only focuses on pyGame, the techniques thought can easily be applied to other python scripted game engines(like Blender for example)

What you will learn:

-Create your window and window properties

-Create sprite characters, animations, and movement/rotation

-Create 'bullet' objects, gravity, particles, collision detection, and other physics.

-Create multiplayer games that connect to a web server

-Publishing your game as a binary executable

So here's the first video in that series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnuEqzAAkHw

Kris is very fun and easy to follow, and he starts slow but quickly builds up to harder and harder things.

Even if you already know the basics of python he can help you to find different ways of doing things that you might not have thought about before.

Anyway, python is really fun and with pygame you can't really go wrong. I wish I still had some of my sample codes, but I lost them when my hard-drives got stolen out of my car :(

https://www.sendspace.com/file/kbi2ek

You're welcome.

Does anyone know how to set up Unity so that animations update on a constant time scale. Basically, I want to make it so that no matter how much times passes in a frame, a constant float value will put it. I tried using animation.update() but this causes animation unctions to be called twice in a frame, which is rather un-ideal behavior.

>>29966

SAVED

THANK YOU VERY MUCH ANON

I'm here because I want to learn Lua so I can use Love2D.

Where do I begin? I downloaded the free book on the Lua site, but is that all I need to get started?

This will be my first time learning how2code

Any idea on how to drag object on path using Unity

Looks pretty dead here but I'll give it a shot.

I'm playing a fan game made with unity. The game always use up to 80% on all four cores. On a dual core cpu, both cores are used up to 100% I'm trying to determine what's using all the cpu cycles.

The town area is filled with around a hundred buildings and static decorations like flower pots, table and chairs. I image the shear number of polygons doesn't affect cpu a lot as they are offload by the gpu, right? The next thing that would be cpu hogging culprit would be colliders. I heard the dev uses a lot of mesh colliders but would just looking at a scene without any collision going on use cpu cycles?

Any of you have luck with a node/behavior editor/state machine? I haven't been able to find a good free one for unity, and with the serilization in unity I haven't been able to make my own, and I've found some frameworks for node editors but they don't support behavior states mostly just calculations, and I can't find any tutorials.

>>30581

Maybe occlusion culling and colliders, yea, especially if they move regularly.

I take it python is the best first step in the process of lrn2 make game.

How retard proof is it?

>>29104

That slowdown is satisfying as heck.

>>29239

Click `Image -> Mode -> RGB`

Magic has various elements

Melee has various attack types (slash/stab/crush)

What do archers have for damage variety?

>>30836

Arrow types : light/heavy/poisoned/incendiary/explosive

Bow types : composite bows, great bows

You can also make certain bows/arrows deal splash damage or can penetrate multiple enemies, etc

>>30837

The idea was that there's multiple damage types and multiple armor types, so picking weapons/armor is not completely straightforward. For example melee armor is good against melee attacks, but one type might be weaker against stab while another may be weak against crush.

It wouldn't make sense to have high resistance against great bows but not against composite bows or crossbows or whatever. Having special effects like poison and fire arrows could work somehow though.

>>30838

How about evasion?

You can give lighter armor higher chances of evasion (bonus chance against archers).

You can also make arrows deal more damage depending on their weight, in exchange for accuracy.

>>29207

update?

>>29304

Implement a law system where killing/stealing is punishable by NPCs in particular areas of the game. Another way to deter violence is a bounty system. Strongly incentivize character specialization by having skills/bonuses which are difficult to unlock but get exponentially better the more you level them up. This makes people dependent on each other and reliant on trading so you have to help others/be helped some time. Have a strong, player-driven economy (marketplaces.) Make things other than griefing other players more profitable.

Perhaps have a system where you can team up with people nearby to enable voice chat or a private chat window or whatever. When mining resources or completing missions or whatever, the entire team gets a bonus. The catch is that you have to explicitly team up with them, you can't just stand nearby.

>>30838

How about chain mail, which is good against blades but not against bows? How about shields which are excellent against bows, but balanced by an 'encumbrance' stat which limits how much heavy metal you can carry around all the time?

Is there a resouce for RPG games?

Youtube videos, or a online book for:

> intertwining game and story

> how to make stats

> AI

>>29189

>source

Ban this shit nigger.

>>31332

I found UE4 to be quite easy to use because using blueprints you can avoid actual coding for 90% of things, and what you described should be possible without too much trouble.

>>31363

Yes. Post on this board again if you need help with the project.

>>31364

Thanks. I'm thinking I want to make it 16-bit (in appearance like SNES or Genesis games), so would I still want UE4 or should I go to some other creator program?

How can I tell if an engine is totally free to use or not? That I don't have to pay royalties or get a license or anything.

Is iD Tech 4 free in this way?

I am making a space themed game, at the moment it feels like Star Trek TOS or TNG. What resource would the player be restricted by? Fuel, money, time?

It's a bit rogue like like like. I want there to be a single consistent resource that the player will be concerned about losing.

What would be a good engine to make a point and click adventure like Zak McCracken?

>>31519

If you want perfect authenticity then you can make a rom. If you don't need that then it's a matter of your art style.

>>31558

The project page should mention the terms for using it. That engine is licensed under the GNU GPL. That means you can use it but you can't misrepresent the author and you have to publish any changes to the source that you make.

>>31582

Fuel would be the closest to the way the modern world works. Access to oil and the means to transport it are fundamental in sustaining a war machine.

>>31583

Any 2d one should work. There's probably some engines that are specifically made for point and click games.

>>31596

>Access to oil and the means to transport it are fundamental in sustaining a war machine.

It's not a war themed game. It's more of an adventure/exploration game.

>>31598

It's still important. What would be the pros and cons of each resource?

>>29080

I want to make a pixelshit super meat boy clone. What engine should I use? Want something easy to work with. I know java and C++, not very good at art.

>>31603

SFML for C++. Libgdx for Java. As for art, you'll have to either stick with programmer art, learn proper art, or get someone to do it for you.

I'm more or less just starting, but my goal is to make a strategy RPG/visual novel hybrid similar to Sengoku Rance. What would be the best engine to learn about in order to make a game like that?

>>31683

That looks pretty remarkable actually. Is this tutorial available publicly?

>>31684

Of course, this is it.

http://blackpawn.com/texts/

This page has a few handy things.

>>31753

Oh, here's two more pages on 2D packing. First one is more esoteric and applies mathematically, but the second is an implementation of other the post above.

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.98.3502&rep=rep1&type=pdf

https://github.com/TeamHypersomnia/rectpack2D

If you were looking to make an open world adventure game (think minecraft or cube world) where would you start?

What sort of map would you design where you get from "I can use GIMP okay" to "I made this game where you punch dinosaurs in the dick and feast on their corpses"?

>>29207

strongly consider suicide

Any good light 3D engines for an average laptop? Something that's not Unity?

>>31808

So I have to stick with the meme engine, huh?

>>29207

Agreed with the other anon. Kys.

Should add http://www.nihilore.com/ to the free audio section

>>29518

Yes, do you still need?

I'm wanting to build a gachimuchi-themed (2d) JRPG.

Any recommendations on references for engine architecture?

Also, I'm currently using C++ as "C with classes". Will I come to regret this, if I end up writing an engine?

Sup. I have been toying with the idea of a fighting game for a few hours now and honestly I'm just an ideaguy with more time than sense. I don't know how to code or even what would be required to make a fighting game, so I was hoping to get a sense of scale here. Basically what do I need to know, what I should research, etc. I already know that I'd have to research the subject matter I'm basing the game on, as well as learning a lot more about fighters in general since my knowledge is novice at best.

Without going into details it'd be a anime-styled fighter with around 13 characters starting out., with each character having his/her own stage and something like a story/arcade mode.

>>31682

I wish I'd read straight from Bjarne Stroupwaffle himself instead of following shitty online tutorials for C++. Once you learn that shit, the damage is already done.

>>32023

>Also, I'm currently using C++ as "C with classes". Will I come to regret this, if I end up writing an engine?

Thats how a bunch of AAA console engine devs do it. If you don't know DOD, yes. If you do know DOD no. Vid related.

Because I just want to do things the obnoxiously hard way, is there a good method for emulating indexed color like with SNES (vid related)? I'm trying to work one out in JavaScript/canvas, but I keep overthinking it or messing it up. I'm currently trying to define a format using typed arrays, but I'm having trouble handling different color depths and bitplanes. I'm considering doing this for 2 reasons: 1.) I like challenge, 2.) I want to do different pallet-swap based effects like in Chrono Trigger.

>>32028

Damn. Like ten years ago I read an article that gave the statistics on how long a fighting game like yours would take. Can't find it now.

I ususally just do tiny afternoon projects so take everything I say with a grain of salt.

Firstly, while you will have more freedom if you know how to write code for your game, some engines (like Gamemaker) have visual programming which is helpful for people starting out.

Next, consider collision detection. While you'd normally want to optimize this part so that your game slows to a crawl when many objects are on screen, if your game is going to be a standard fighter with two collideable characters and maybe some projectiles, this can (probably) be ignored, since there will will not be enough collideable objects that performance would be affected. That being said, fighters seem to use multiple hit boxes per character and determine damage caused by checking if an "attacking" box is colliding with one of the opponents hit boxes. Try to determine how to manage and check these hitboxes during attack animations and how these boxes would vary from character to character.

For physics, you can establish a simple gravity value that will affect a character's vertical velocity each step through the game loop. With fighters, you'll also want to determine what forces will be applied to the characters when they recieve an attack. If the force exerted is small, perhaps just push them a little to the side, if the force is strong enough, how high should they be thrown into the air? Force being applied should take into account blocking and the weight of the characters. Additionally, what threshold needs to be passed so that a character gets stunned by an attack (where input for that character is temporarily disabled during a stun animation).

As part of collision handling, you'll want to understand event handling in general, which also includes input handling and timing. Learn how an event handler works and how to parse a generic event object (note: last time I used it, EVERYTHING in Gamemaker was done with event handlers).

Take into consideration how the characters will differ from each other. What will be their speed, their weight, their strength, and how would these characters be balanced? You're going to want to continuously test (this is the most important part) and tweak these characters so that they have strengths and weaknesses that keep them from being overpowered/underpowered.

You have thirteen characters. Each character will have multiple animations. Each animation is going to have multiple frames. How long it takes to animate a character will be determined by number of animations, number of frames per animation, level of detail per frame, and skill of the artist. Each character will have a stage. Each stage has a background. If these backgrounds have moving parts, these moving parts will have animations.

Will each stage have BGM? Will different stages have environmental sounds? What sounds will characters and attacks make? The VA for Vegita once mentioned in an interview that he had to record hundreds of voice clips for one of the DBZ games (a lot of them being simple grunts and groans). How long will it take to record and process these sounds?

With a single player mode, you'll need to program AI. This possibly could be done with a state machine which takes in the current state of the objects on the screen, updating the internal state of the AI controlled character, and select an appropriate action based on the new internal state. Note that while it is called "artificial intelligence," keep in mind the idea of "artificial stupidity." Because you can pass game data to an AI controlled opponent that a human player cannot know about, you could accidentally give too much power to the opponent who will know the perfect response to any situation.

As for additional advice, critically examine other fighting games and consider why they work and why certain features were used. Be careful about ambition and don't bite off more than you can chew (a friend of mine who's a veteran game dev said that you start a game project with infinite ideas, and then you remove ideas until you have the game you can make). PROTOTYPE AND PLAYTEST EARLY AND OFTEN. Early prototyping and testing will help you determine what works and what doesn't.

Lastly, go in with the mindset of a rockstar. As an entertainment medium, most games won't make it, and those that do only have a slight chance of being successful. A rockstar only has a small chance of success, but they persevere because what they're doing is worth it to them.

Again, I'm no professional, these are just some things I would consider.

>>32125

>Learning C++ takes years

Learning C++ takes a week or two, assuming you don't try to learn every feature which even most pro devs don't know.

Learning to program things effectively is the hard part, your knowledge of C++ doesn't increase much after the initial hurdle, but your ability to put that knowledge to use does.

Is there a way to use voxels which isn't minecraft shitty? I have an idea for a game in my head and I'm working towards it but it's in voxels.

>>32172

True. The mechanics of C++ aren't that hard to learn. Building your engine however is going to take a long time no regrets. In a game maker you can probably start with zero knowledge of programming and have a game done in a week. Why learn pointer arithmetic if you just wanna make a platformer?

>>32198

Tons of games these days store the terrain data as voxels but convert to polys for rendering. So basically it'll look like your standard poly-based game.

>>32202

How does that work? Could you show me some examples please?

>>32200

>Why learn pointer arithmetic

Pointers are incredibly simple and useful though. It's just a number that represents a location in memory, and you can either modify that number to change the memory location, or "dereference" the pointer to modify the data in it's destination. For fancy trickery you can cast the pointer to another type of pointer to change how much data it interacts with.

is there anywhere I can get an fbx of a sex animation from? I just want to quickly test something out, wanted to see if there's anything before paying someone for just a single animation

>>32220

You lack so much context its surreal. Why not make your own 2 frame sex anim to test out whatever you want to do?

>>32222

yeah my bad. I was thinking more along the lines of 3D. I want to try and recreate how illusion does their sex animations through mecanim. I suppose I could look into doing something simple like a handshake, which should still follow the same principle right?

I have a few random questions, I figure this is the best place to ask.

A few years back I was getting into game dev, ultimately made a small text game in the command prompt. Was interesting but I ended up getting hung up on what was a necessary minimum for a game loop, so I could be doing basic 2d graphics, with just simple windows and colors and what not.

I think I'll start like that again, with a simple text game, but I wanted to package it in my own small, super simple graphics.

My real question is, how much C++ should I be learning? I remember I would learn the core basics, apply those and then move on a little but I would sort....delve too far the rabbit hole in earnest and realize I was reading things that were way over my head.

I have mountains of ideas and I am a fairly decent artist, I would just like to really understand the programming from a core level, without having to make my own engine from scratch.

I was wondering if anyone has a really simplified list with a few book/website suggestions on basic software architecture and just the core subsystems needed for a game.

I'm being lazy, I'm going to keep looking but it seems to save a lot of time to just get pointed in a direction instead of stumbling around for so long.

>>32227

>how much C++ should I be learning

>I would delve too far the rabbit hole and I was reading things that were way over my head

>without having to make my own engine from scratch

>understand the programming from a core level

First you need to figure out what you want to do, because I really don't understand from your post. You're trying to learn something unnecessarily deep if you don't want to do something deep. The way game engines can work vary so greatly that learning how to make one doesn't really help you understand someone else's engine that much.

>simplified list

>software architecture and the core subsystems needed for a game

Pick one, and then pick a genre for the latter.

>>32230

I guess generally I just want to start with a command prompt game, using c or c++, then possibly utilize or create my own simple graphics engine and learn how to package my files together.

I think that makes sense...

>>32260

It doesn't get much easier than that unless you make some kind of editor that lets you scroll back and forth in time and place/configure enemies, and then save it all into a file. If you're planning to make a long game with lots of enemies then it's probably worth it to spend the time making such a tool.

For a bullet hell game it might also be useful to add patterns, e.g. so you can use a single line for spawn X number of Y enemy in a row. Or maybe spawn enemy in X position and spawn another every Y seconds until N enemies have been spawned.

>>32268

Creating patterns for the enemies sounds like it would make things a lot smoother, thanks. I would go for a tool but for now I'm only planning on making a 1 stage demo so it would be a bit overkill.

I plan on making a 2d platformer with somewhat pretty graphics, I thought about using unreal or is it just as unstable as unity?

So, what started out as a joke is now turning into a semiserious project. I've started writing down ideas, making maps and parsing out grids and movement and such.

Three words: Asshole Necromancer Simulator

The overworld/map plays like Civ 5 or Crusader Kings, and battles play like Totally Accurate Battle Simulator but more polished and you can cast your own spells in the middle of battle.

What would be a good place to start? I've already started writing down plans and ideas for usable units, castable spells, what sort of stats and are important in the gameplay, mid/end-game transitions, win conditions, enemies you have to face, etc., and I've got a map of ~1000 AD medieval Europe with a grid overlaid to simulate a campaign with.

I want to make it complex, but the individual parts should be very intuitive and easy to understand. There's no need for 800 different stats; you can operate off of a 'knowledge' base that dictates your known spells and their strength, and an infamy level that determines how likely a paladin is to come bash down your front door and Turn Undead. More options, but make them easy to understand and play around with. Make the game fill in the blanks.

>>32363

Can you program?

>>32369

Because the first thing to do is make a prototype. Make a shitty manually made (non proc gen, not sure if you want that anyway) map, have units move around, build a fake AI. This is important because you can't always plan so much before making a prototype because you may have to throw some of it away.

>>32369

>>32370

I took some low-level programming classes back in high school, but that was almost 15 years ago. I'm downloading Godot now, unless you think another language would work better.

I'm starting off with a mock-up 'board game' style prototype to basically show friends what it would be like so I have a place to start at. Most, if not all, of these ideas should be possible to implement; whether or not they're easy to implement is a different issue altogether, but I'll figure that out as I go along. Particularly the TABS-style battle engine, I would have a tougher time designing something like that myself unless I took some serious time to work stuff out, and then I would need models and all kinds of stuff.

And yes, I'd like a procedurally generated system for this project, but I wouldn't imagine starting any project off with that. Start with the basics and get an actual system set up one module at a time.

>>29304

Because cooperation is based on necessity. Simply put if you make it viable to play the game and win (or do well) on your own, then people will.

You can copy the WoW formula and just make everything the same level of difficulty as a hardcore dungeon.

Another idea would be to create skilled based gameplay. Not just combat but cooking and crafting as well. For instance cooking means not just the right ingredients but also the correct amounts and correct timing incorporated in the preaparation. That way people will specialize and since you can't be arsed to do everything yourself you'll turn to other players because they are better cooks, smiths, warriors etc.

Any engines that use a decent entity component system or ecs libraries for engines? I used entitas w/ unity and I fell in love with entitas but began to despise unity3d. I want an engine/editor that doesn't get in the way of programming I just want a decent ECS library along with other useful libraries like collision etc then hop over to my editor to create assets and arrange and test levels.

Are there any books/tuts on how to structure your code vs a normal application? For example, the different ways to write enemy code or spawning, saving/loading, npcs etc Are there game dev specific data structs/algos? I only know of "Game Programming Patterns" Anyone know similar books?

>>32227

>>32258

Learn the language features like functions, conditionals, loops, classes, and such. Learn about dynamic memory allocation and pointers. Learn about the standard library features like printing, strings, file IO, containers, math, and so on. Learning how to compile and run programs for whichever library you're going to use. Learn about the API of that library. That'll get you started.

>>32260

A shmup in C++ and SFML? I'm doing the same. Good luck. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with. In my engine, all the behavior of an enemy is based on a function that the enemy has a pointer to. Instead of having a spawn delay, there's a function for each stage that uses conditions to determine when to spawn enemies. It would be like...

if(time == <time to spawn enemy>) {
  enemies.spawn(params, [](Enemy *enemy) {
    <enemy behavior>
  });
}

>>32434

Programming isn't that cut and dry, especially if you're working from scratch. It's up to you to decide how to structure your code. It depends on your preferences, experience, and needs. There's a lot of discussion and disagreement related to that topic.

>>32444

>Programming isn't that cut and dry, especially if you're working from scratch. It's up to you to decide how to structure your code. It depends on your preferences, experience, and needs. There's a lot of discussion and disagreement related to that topic.

I think that's something that always gives me trouble. Having multiple possible solutions always puts me into analysis paralysis.

I imagine this is something that gets better as you become more experienced and learn about your own preferences or maybe it's just a special kind of autism.

>>32447

I'm just starting out, so don't take my advice as gospel, but what I do is take some time to write out a project skeleton on paper and include the most basic functions and what values need to go where, then sleep on it and come back with fresh eyes. When you feel confident about the way you think might work, code out the basics and flesh it out from there.

Stick with a general method and run with it. If you get stuck, sleep on it and come back and see if your method still makes sense; you can always see if a slightly different way of thinking helps out a bit later on.

>>32447

That "autism" is you wanting to do well. You'll be more consistent as you gain experience. Dwelling on the code will help you fix those inconsistencies.

>>32444

That sounds like a good way to do it. I haven't touched the project in a while now but I realized in my data structures class the other day that a priority queue would probably be a good way to handle entry order. Just add the enemies to the list with a key representing which "encounter" or "batch" you want them to be part of and add all the enemies with a shared key at once and wait until they're gone before adding the next set.

what should I learn after understanding basic programming concept?

I tried making games in unity, but sometimes foreign concept pop up and I must dig up what it means and understand it before I make progress. And I tried to read some books about game devs but even then I found some foreign concept that makes me feels like I skip a step somewhere.

>>32479

Read the book Game Design Patterns. It takes the Gang Of Four Design patterns and explains them in a video game context and uses. Also very good for learning programming in general, regardless of game programming.

>>32479

>sometimes foreign concept pop up and I must dig up what it means and understand it before I make progress

This is your life now, it will never stop happening unless you start making the same thing you've already made before, so get used to it.

I'm at the point in my game where I find awkward looking code that I don't remember writing. I miss when the codebase was tiny and I could keep all of it in my head at one time. It makes me want to make my code as compact as possible.

>>29199

imGUI for quick and fast GUIs

nuklear (actually ANSI C) if you want something more fancy

>>32525

I get inspiration from real life and warp features.

I have an idea for a game that involves playing as a murderous asshole. The main thing however, is that I want to subvert the hipster/game-journo notion that the player (not the player's character) enjoys the violence he is imposing on the enemies. I want the main idea of the game, is that the player is forced to watch his avatar do horrible things, and get the notion in that the player wouldn't want this, as a foil to undertale's genocide route ending.

the closest implementation I can think of is this:

>Throughout the game, the player character occasionally breaks the fourth wall, in between post-level cutscenes and after bosses.

>this comes to a head at the end, where the player character comes to gruesomely murder the catalyst for game's plot, and the actual player can choose to either to destroy her, or to let her go.

If you choose to destroy her, the player character figuratively and literally breaks her, at as many points as possible.

If you choose to let her go, the player character lets go, and she falls 100 meters to her death.

<"HAHAHAHAHAHA! And you thought you actually had a CHOICE in the matter?"

<"you see, I don't are how good or bad you really are. You never had a real choice this entire time."

<"And now that things are over? to be honest, I'd take you too if I could. But I can't."

<"so enjoy it, cause this is the end,"

>the camera then sees a helpless bystander who witnessed the crime.

>you are given control of this bystander who then has to escape before the former-player-character destroys the building you're both on... but you got only one chance to escape. the ending will be slightly different if you manage to succeed, but will be slightly more hopeful for that person.

>end credits take place over the broken body of the catalyst, which occasionally twitches, and if she was destroyed, gurgles and chokes too.

how else would I implement a helpless player controls the protagonist's murder spree game?

How does one shut up and make a game? I keep saying I will do it, but I keep getting distracted by a technical detail that I want to handle myself, but when all is said and done the only thing I can show for it is another iteration of the Snake game.

>>32636

You have to suck it up and find a balance between doing things yourself and using tools. Pick a library for making games that's higher level than raw OpenGL and lower level than prebuilt engines.

What would be a good engine for messing around with a 3d platformer, particularly if I'm not planning on using highly detailed graphics?

Can anyone help me flesh out an idea for a game. I'm thinking that in a perfect world, it would be like Counterstrike Tactics. Basically, the kind of objective-based maps of counterstrike but in a turn-based tactics fashion (somewhat like FF Tactics I guess).

I think it would need to be 2D, or at least the map and gameplay would need to be 2D. Verticality could come into it, but I think that's really just an extension to 2D, as in gun angles wouldn't factor into it, but the verticality might affect LOS or something.

Cover would come into play as well I think.

What I'm coming up hard on is how to make sure that it doesn't get stale every match. What I mean is, if the T team takes out 3 of the CT team, I don't want that to spell certain doom for CT. I want the victory condition on each map to always be somewhat achievable, but I don't know how to do this. I would also want the victory conditions to be varied so there's some variety (which is what led me to CS).

I'm happy to step away from the Counterstrike aspect. As in I don't want CS to stop allowing the game changes needed to make the tactics version fun.

As I understand it, for a match to not get boring, there always needs to remain a possibility of winning, right down to the end. I thought maybe putting a time restriction on the team that's got the upper hand for the map+victory condition, but that seems so arbitrary.

>>33005

Look up some games made in that engine. Judging by what features they have, do you think you could make your game out of it? Some great games have been made in RPG Maker. Is it missing any features that you need for your game? Does it allow you to distribute your game the way you want to? Does it run on the platforms you intend to target? You can make your own engine but it'll take you ages especially if you're just starting out. Ruby isn't popular outside of Rails. It's interpreted so everyone that plays your game needs to have it installed. C++ with SFML is easy to distribute and has advantage of native bindings. It's tough for a beginner so make sure it's what you want.

>>33009

Lisa the Painful was made in the engine I am currently using and I've enjoyed the game a lot, likewise OFF was also made with RPG Maker, though I'm not sure of the differences between the various updates/types.

Also I'm a bit lost again... SFML?

What's the difference between SFML and RPG Maker?

Also Rails?

What's that?

What I want right now is to be able to bite onto something fairly easy that even a dolt like me could be able to make: distribution at the moment isn't an issue because I'm just testing the waters... though, I'd be willing to tackle bigger obstacles if you're telling me they would, in the long run, make things easier for me in certain aspects.

>>33013

>Also I'm a bit lost again... SFML?

It's a media library that can be used to make a game engine. It includes window creation, rendering, controller input, audio, and networking. You'd have to implement that by yourself for each platform you want to target otherwise.

>What's the difference between SFML and RPG Maker?

SFML is a library for C++. RPG Maker is a standalone engine.

>Also Rails?

Ruby on Rails. A massive web development framework.

>Lisa the Painful was made in the engine I am currently using and I've enjoyed the game a lot, likewise OFF was also made with RPG Maker, though I'm not sure of the differences between the various updates/types.

>What I want right now is to be able to bite onto something fairly easy that even a dolt like me could be able to make: distribution at the moment isn't an issue because I'm just testing the waters... though, I'd be willing to tackle bigger obstacles if you're telling me they would, in the long run, make things easier for me in certain aspects.

Keep doing RPG maker. It's your best bet. It's relatively easy to use. You don't need a lot of programming experience. It worked for the games that you like. If it falls short for you or you want more control, you can consider a custom engine. Try doing some SFML tutorials to see how you like it and get an idea for how it works.

>>33093

Try with Godot and GDscript. The first one is free and the second one is based on Python

Been making a few small games (start small meme) from different genres to learn the engine I'm using, when should I start working on an actual project?

I'm trying to throw together a roguelike engine (in JavaScript) and I've got it set up to output a terminal-like window on a web page. Being a traditional-turn based rl, the game loop should be pretty simple, but I'm overthinking how input should be handled (like what happens with button presses in different contexts, such as inventory management, examining tiles, etc.)

>>33103

I'd say it's a gut feeling kinda thing, but if you do not feel ready yet, is there an element to your larger project that you haven't worked with yet? Is there a mechanic you can build a small game around so you can get experience with it?

>>33138

>I'm overthinking how input should be handled (like what happens with button presses in different contexts

var keyboardinputevent = null;

function keyboarevent_inventory (keycode) {
	switch (keycode) {
		case ARROWLEFT: {
			inventory.selectNextItem();
			break;
		}
		case ARROWLEFT: {
			inventory.selectPrevItem();
			break;
		}
		case ESCAPE: {
			keyboardinputevent = keyboarevent_world;
			break;
		}
		// insert other inventory controls
	}
}

function keyboarevent_world (keycode) {
	switch (keycode) {
		case ARROWLEFT: {
			player.position.x += 1;
			break;
		}
		case ARROWLEFT: {
			player.position.x -= 1;
			break;
		}
		case I: {
			keyboardinputevent = keyboarevent_inventory;
			break;
		}
		// insert other world controls
	}
}

document.addEventListener("keydown", function(event){
	keyboardinputevent(event.keyCode);
});

>>33154

So I was on the right track, but I was overcomplicating the process. Thank you greatly.

>>33101

Depends on the project. Basically, you should be more or less comfortable with most of the technologies you are going to use.

Let's say you are making diablo clone.

You need:

1. Sprite animations.

2. Map creation

3. Collision detection

4. Item system

5. Saves

6. Dialog system

Probably, smth else, like ability to manage sizable project. When you start feeling comfortable with main aspects of your game you can start working on your main project.

This is out of curiosity, rather then practical interest, as I realize it's ambitious. Would it be possible for someone to get a handheld system and have their own games playable on it?

Basically, if somebody had made enough well-selling games with low system-requirements, could they manufacture a handheld about as powerful as the GBA and sell their games on it? If those games were made in an engine licensed for specific platforms (i.e. gamemaker) would creating your own platform break the rules of that license?

>>29182

This is so very wrong... The most recent version of GameMaker uses GML. Game Maker Language... It's a love child of C#.

Javascript is for web-scripting, specifically for front-end related tasks. Two COMPLETELY different languages.

RPGMVX and RPGMVXA uses javascript...

If this anon want's to learn programming, they'd better stick their dick into something C based or even python. I'd recommend starting out with C++ to learn OOP and Procedural.

Has anyone experience with this development tool for point and click adventures? https://www.visionaire-studio.net/?lang=en

Godot newfig here

How can I tint individual nodes? I'd like to tint the currently focused button in the UI to show that it is focused and tint greyscale sprites to color items.

>>29304

Have you ever played an MMO that wasn't some modern cash shop gook grinder or casual browser game? These problems have long been solved, or rather, MMOs existed long before these problems were introduced.

>skill training

Skills increase in level as they're used. Hitting a mob with a sword -> swords/slashing attacks skill goes up. Brew a potion -> alchemy skill goes up. No problems here.

>resource gathering

An invented problem. Before, ALL materials were dropped by mobs, sold by NPCs (usually only the basic, low-level ingredients), or crafted by players (from items from the previous categories). Period. Running around try to click on a sparkling rock before everyone else does is a single-player mechanic autistically hacked into a multiplayer-game.

>getting experience

First player to tag and aggro a mob gets it. Player or party who deals >50% of mob's hp in damage gets all of the experience and loot. These have always been basic rules in real MMOs. Ignoring these is called kill stealing, as is typically a punishable offense. How to discourage a higher level, or in your wording, a higher skilled player from taking all of the mobs you're after? By making mobs give less and then eventually no experience as you out-level then. The higher level character will fuck off to where he should be killing and let you do your thing. This is not even unique to MMOs, this is RPG 101.

>switching worlds

Oh my fuck. I suggest you get a little more MMO experience under your belt before trying to design one. Many of the old classics are dead now, but you should still research their wikis and forums, and try to play on emulated servers if you can. Good luck.

>>33192

EVE handles mining well. Low tier minerals are available in a nearly endless supply in highsec, but you need to cooperate for protection to get the high tier minerals in lowsec and nullsec.

I hear CCP has made living in nullsec unbearable, but making high reward activities so high risk as to be suicide to attempt solo to incentivize people to cooperate is a solid idea. Players HAVE to work together to progress.

That post is over 2 years old, that anon is probably dead by now.

>>33192

>Skills increase in level as they're used

That's exactly what happens in Runescape and the problem still exists.

>Before, ALL materials were dropped by mobs

Uh huh and how do you get monster drops when some autistic queer with higher DPS attacks all the monsters that you do? Even if the drops are somehow shared then it still reduces both player's ability to gain XP because you have replaced combat with the downtime between getting from monster to another.

>who deals >50% of mob's hp in damage gets all of the experience

I see you can't type 3 paragraphs without forgetting what you wrote in the first one. You're back to the point where it's beneficial to be alone instead of working together, in fact you're encouraging it.

>kill stealing, as is typically a punishable offense

So your solution to contradictory game design is to ban people unless they play the way you like? Genius.

>These problems have long been solved

Seeing that you contradicted yourself several times and didn't solve a single problem, I suggest you turn down the attitude.

>>33197

First past the post, first tag, first X% tag, these don't really matter because all of them can still be exploited to grief. KSing is effectively dealt with by just putting groups of mobs far enough apart from each other that no player can tag them all and having so many that a player or group of players can always find something to fight if that's what they want or need to do.

>>33205

>Now you're designing the game in such a way that people won't be near each other in the first place

that's a big leap

Fellow developers, how can I avoid the pitfall of distraction? Looking at what other people made and becoming incredibly frustrated at my own work. I know the problem is in my head but I can't help stop falling down that hole.

>>33211

you can uh... um... wow this video of two monkeys boxing is way better than human sports

How do I make a game without engine?

What is the history of gamedev?

I am going forward with making a game, but not having any artists worries me. It's not an even remotely urgent problem, but art and visual direction is primarily what sells a game these days. How am I supposed to get artists if I need artists to get make the game to get money?

>>33250

You forget about the concept of an "engine" and you write your own code based on what you need. Googling can get you a long way. Here's a book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1138035459

>>33166

Yes. An example is the PocketCHIP (http://www.chip-community.org/index.php/PocketCHIP) running PICO-8. In this day of systems on chips, it is not hard to get something way more powerful than the GBA in your pocket. Barrier to entry on this stuff is lower than ever.

The final part of your question is silly. Either your thing runs the binaries you compile or it doesn't.

>>33250

Watch the first couple episodes of handmade hero, and "intro to C" from the same series.

There were ~8000 game releases on steam in 2018. That's almost 22 games per day. Is there even a point in game development anymore? How come the market hasn't collapsed onto itself yet, with everyone going broke?

>>33265

because steam isn't the only platform and no one buys garbage games so who even cares

Can someone link me a pipeline showing how people make varying policount models for the same 3D asset w/o redoing rigging and animation? You know, like when a game has different graphics settings and you can switch to lower poli.

Just chiming in that fossil is pretty comfy for version control as a solo dev. It just works.

https://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/index.wiki

So, in my game I have a bunch of items which inherit from monobehaviour, which other things inherit from, like Melee weapon, Ranged Weapon, Tool, Head piece, food. These then use interfaces to get called at runtime. And this works, so I should be good... but... crafting gets messy. For instance basically all different types of melee weapons are prefabs in the inspector. This is great for quickly generating a bunch of items... but it also means they don't have distinct types. Unity just sees them as Melee Weapon instances. I want to implement inventory stacks for crafting where things from the same prefab will stack. Unfortunately there is no way to determine the prefab that a game object was instantiated from at runtime, and my searching has only found the prefabUtility.getprefabtype which only works as an editor script, not after the game is built. Apparently, this doesn't exist in unity normally, see https://answers.unity.com/questions/264328/determine-if-game-object-is-tyoepf-one-prefab.html Now, I was wondering, does anyone know if you can create a GUID when an item gets prefabbed, which can then be used like a tag so all instances can be mapped back to their prefab? Reset() isn't a good place to do this, because then resetting the component on an instance in the scene willbreak the link by creating a guid that doesn't map to a prefab. OnValidate() is even worse. Does anyone have any ideas as to how I can create this guid to associate instances to their prefabs?

>>33265

Yeah it's insane these days. Making a successful game is like becoming a successful actor. Tons of people trying, only a handful make it, the rest have to work second jobs. Welcome to the modern world. But the thing is that while more games are being made, there are also more gamers these days, so the market is expanding as a whole.

The market might be completely flooded with games. But it isn't flooded with good games. I'd bet the majority of those 6,000 games are either VNs or some dude uploading his Game Maker game onto Steam just to see if anyone will buy it. If you make a good game, people are going to want to play it.

>>33299

>Will probably try the video on the OP

If you're talking about Handmade Hero then that's the deepest you can go while still reasonably making a game with it, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone except people who really like programming.

>>33300

I don't know man, I just want to know how the stuff works instead of just download this and that and do the point and click game.

Not sure if that video helps to understand that.

>>33299

There's resources on the wiki. You'd have to give us more detail about what kind of game you'd like to make if you want deeper info.

>>33301

I mean, you'll be watching hours and hours of footage before you get to the point where he can draw 2D images onto the screen, and that's without hardware acceleration. Even the language he uses is quite meticulous and "inconvenient" in some ways, it has a lot more educational value in terms of programming than game dev I think.

Like the /agdg/ wiki suggests, there's many layers to dev and you eventually get to the point where it starts to become less relevant to gamedev. It's not very useful to know how to tell Windows to open a window and read mouse input and shit when you could just use some kind of a framework like SFML to handle it for you. You're never going to change that functionality no matter what kind of game or engine you make, except maybe if you do some esoteric program that uses the window or operating system in a unique way.

I'm not telling you not to watch it, but just be aware that it shows you EVERYTHING done from scratch, it's easy to get overwhelmed and think gamedev is too much work or too complicated.

Anyone know much about handling dynamic stuff in pathfinding? Not many of the tutorials I'm able to find cover collisions well, just some general pointers. Right now I've got a vector field working, my NPCs just follow it to their goals (each goal is a different field). However, there's some narrow corridors, if I put a guy there, everyone just piles up waiting for him to move.

Calculating the field seems too expensive every time someone gets in the way. And in the case where there's a pile-up, I think some NPCs would get stuck.

If two guys are going in opposite directions, they will both refuse to get out of the way.

What do?

Any good suggestions for learning blender? I've tried a couple tutorials but not really grasping it.

>>33361

tell me if you find out. I never get past art. Currently making >>32310 but got stuck on art. Recently quit the project, but came back to it after just making my own shit-tier assets as placeholders.

The only reason I made progress was because I decided to relax and stop trying to make my vision. I now consider it a shitty prototype to test what does and doesn't work. Once I've a finishedpile of shit prototype with no major bugs, I'll remake the game and pay someone to do the art for me. Maybe you could do the same or find someone decent who wants to write to help you out?

>>33409

So far I've managed to put together these:

water, fire, earth/ground/stone, air/wind
electric, ice, metal, crystal
light, dark/shadow, life, death, order, chaos, corruption
time, space, void, energy, magic, sense(sensor)
poison, nature/grass/wood/plant, spirit/ghost, soul, psychic
bug, machine, undead/zombie, vampiric
mind, flesh, knowledge, tool, human, travel, motion, exchange, change, healing, flight, damage
repair/build, greed, wealth, defense/protect/armor, damage/attack, damaged/broken, trap

>>33361

For me, it's the other way around.

Also, how did you "almost die"?

>>33409

>>33410

Air, Water = Mist
Air, Earth = Dust
Air, Fire = Smoke
Water, Earth = Mud
Water, Fire = Steam
Earth, Fire = Ash/Lava/Magma

There was one text based MMO that had a lot of elements but I don't remember the name of it now. It had a wiki. Might be worth searching for. It had things like poison, plasma, light, and darkness.

>>33430

I got a realy fucked intestinal infection that lasted for 6 months. lost 10kg and was shiting blood for some time.

When i got to the medical they said my asshole looked like i was raped by the insides out.

I've been working on a Ren'py game (I know, kiddie-tier but shut up, it works for what I need and is free) for the last couple weeks but it's been ages since I coded anything and I haven't used Python before ever.

How the fuck do I make a variable that is itself variable?

Like if I wanted to call the [Character]Status variable for a collect-a-monster game, or I want to call [Species]AttackStat to modify the monsters final Attack stat. I don't want to do a thousand line If statement for every single species every single time it gets called.

I just want to be able to dynamically create, call and edit variable names.

>>33461

It's hard to tell what you're trying to do. Can you post some code?

>>33461

Use dictionaries?

>>33461

>[Character]Status

Yeah it sounds like you're describing a dictionary I think.

>[Species]AttackStat

I forgot what this exact pattern was called, it might be the prototypal pattern? Basically there is one object that holds the data for all things of thqr type which can also be overridden.

>>33452

Thanks, didn't think of those for some reason even though they're pretty basic compound elements. Here's the current list, still badly organized though:

water  air/wind  fire  earth/ground/rock/stone
ice  electric/lightning  metal  crystal  bone  poison  nature/grass/leaf/tree/wood/plant  steam/mist  smoke  dust  gas  mud  lava/magma  ash
light  dark/shadow  life  death  order  chaos  corruption
time  space  void  energy  magic  sense(sensor)  heat  cold
spirit/ghost  soul  psychic/psi  chemical/science  oil  corrosion  destruction
bug  machine/clockwork  electronic  laser  undead/zombie  vampiric  disease/plague  angel/heaven  demon/hell
mind  flesh  knowledge  tool  human  travel  motion  trade/swap/exchange  change  healing  flight  beauty
repair/build  greed  wealth  love/lust  dream/sleep/sloth  wrath  defense/protect/armor  damage/attack  damage(d)/broken  trap

>>33478

Super quick shit:

label start:

PikachuAttack = 4

CharizardAttack = 7

Species = "Pikachu"

if [Species]Attack = 4:

"This code works somehow"

else:

"Haha fuck you"

Species = "Charizard"

if [Species]Attack = 7:

"This code works somehow"

else:

"Haha fuck you"

return

What do I need to put, so that the [Species]Attack variable is read as PikachuAttack and then CharizardAttack

>>33496

You use a data structure that stores the parameters for each species.

Like

species = ['pikachu' = ['attack' = 4, 'defense' = 4],
           'charizard' = ['attack' = 7, 'defense' = 7]];

To access it, you do

species['pikachu'].

>>33498

Thank you

>>33493

And thank you

Would there be any noticeable difference in performance between the built in PNG alpha or replacing the alpha of a specific color (i.e RGB 0 255 0) via a shader?

>>29943

Yes you can use GameMaker.

I'm trying to make an JRPG with multiple classes in GameMaker (with more classes than character slots), but I got stuck thinking how to implement the different class skills (one active for each class to start out) and then how to load a class/character into a fight depending on which characters are in the party.

Is it viable to create 4 character dummies and "load" a class into them when battle starts?

Is there a way to receive a "Class" parameter for a create event?

I used to code in c/c++ back in the day, including a few uni courses. Years later I want to make a game. Searching for information on what language to use I ended looking at java, but dropped it after a few days and went to Python with pygame. I found what I wanted here for my 2d platform game with plenty of examples... except the total fucking late of depth that I really want to create with rpg-classes/races/skills.. I can't even see anything in py- that goes very deep. Is it a waste of time to try to code a game with depth, like complicated inventory systems in pygame, should I just go back to where I started all those years ago with c++?

How do you guys deal with stress and burning out?

I've been working in a game for a week already and had to redo some assets, and for fuck's sake I didn't even finish the sprites of the main character.

I'm planning to draw up every character and monster and I've been thinking about doing some Parallax work, but for fuck's sake I'm stressed as hell.

It doesn't help I've been looking at my assets and feel like it is poorly done and I might have to restart some full 2 days work. It's my first full game and I should just do it to experiment, but I would like to do it more or less professionally.

Any advice to prevent being burned out?

>>33939

Just make small parts of what you want to do and then add them to the overall thing.

Make different combat or dialogue options and figure out which you feel works better.

Try different animations for the sprites. Do everything as though it was for the final thing but don't treat it as such till your ready to. Just have fun with it.

Completlely new to the board so I'll just jump in.

So I'd like to develop a game similar in style to king of dragon pass. Story wise it's about you and the 8 other surviving colonist trying to get this new planet ready for the next colony ship thats coming some years down the road. Unlike KoDP there are no other people just you and your "advisors", yes they are all waifubait.

I have an economics back ground so I decided to use python but other than doing udemy boot camp where should I begin? Do I even need to use something like unity?

>Decide to finally try to make a complete game instead of dicking around

>GM sounds easy enough and has ton of tutorials and support from the community

>GM2 requires online connection

>Alright, let's fall back to godot

>barely any tutorial, the community page won't even load on their site

Why

>>34005

This is why you either give up and use Unity, or make your own engine.

>>34006

isn't unity ,ore complicated if i just want to make a simple platformer, or zelda clone?

Also, don't they get a cut of your earnings when you sell your game?

>>34007

>isn't unity ,ore complicated if i just want to make a simple platformer, or zelda clone?

not really, back then 2d stuff was kinda shit and more of a "3d hack", plenty of features now.

also a lot of learning stuff, especially platformers etc. there's even a learning project which lets you do shit without any code at all (although due to the way it's deployed bit of a bitch to get running in current versions, got to update packages yourself and alter the code, which kinda defeats the purpose).

>on't they get a cut of your earnings when you sell your game?

not royalties at all, after 100k you gotta pay, more after 200k but no more limits (epic takes a 5% cut for unreal engine, unless you publish via epic store). so unless you manage to create an indie hit or make it big on kickstarter nothing to worry about.

>>33974

>I have an economics back ground so I decided to use python but other than doing udemy boot camp where should I begin? Do I even need to use something like unity?

there pygame, but never used it myself. unity/godot should be more than enough for a kodp clone, you only really need unreal if you want to go heavy 3d. if you need learning material probably unity.

I want to make an RPG Maker game but I don't know where to focus at first.

I have the idea, I have the plugins I need and I have more or less knowledge how to use them, but I don't know where to start.

I'm stuck right now trying to design a somewhat vertical map like a beat'em up instead of the usual isometrical view.

>>34174

pay me and I'll make your game

On a more serious note, though: if you want to make a game as a one-man-army, you just gotta calculate how long you can last off your savings and design a game that you can realistically create in that timeframe. As with any business, there's no guarantee you're going to make your investment back.

If you aren't at least somewhat competent at art, programming, sound design, writing and all the other elements required for gamedev, you can still do the proper agdg route of keeping it your hobby, creating smaller projects to git gud, keep making savings and making a proper game when you're confident of your skills.

You can try asking this over at

>>>/v/16766001

as well

>>34181

>If you aren't at least somewhat competent at art, programming, sound design, writing and all the other elements required for gamedev,

You only need to be competent in a few of those to make a sellable game. Most gamedevs suck at absolutely all of it though which is part of why they cry about things like the indiepocalypse or whatever, because their games suck from every angle.

Are there any decent free engines out there that have implemented "smoothed voxel" terrain (like marching cubes), or am I better off just coding it myself into a free engine that does everything else I need?

>>34192

Apparently Unity supports voxels.

>>34196

Sorry, I should have been more specific. By "free" I meant that the code is open source and the license is something like MIT or BSD. Unity's nice but it doesn't meet those criteria.

I want to give a bit of context about myself before i ask the question to frame it properly.

I've dabbled with modding, level editors, scripting etc in games for over a decade. I've also programmed some small projects in various languages, but never anything big.

I've been curious about programming/gamedev related topics, and whenever i came across something interesting i just often end up consuming it out of boredom, so i feel like i've "seen a lot of things" but actually know little about them.

I've recently realised that i have been brooding over a project for 2-3 years on and off, asking myself why the hell nobody else is making THAT GAME, and that i've spend so much time thinking about it that i don't feel like i have any choice - i have to chase down this passion and tackle it.

I am fully aware that i lack fundamental software engineering skills. I've seen people talk about it plenty of times here and there, but i never sat down and actually wrapped my head around it.

So what i am asking for is a software engineering crash course for game development. Programming paradigms, software design approaches, what's the bucket list a game developer should know about, especially when diving into a project which is probably borderline too large for a single person, while also pushing into performance critical territory? Which sources the the best to learn these things?

I really hate bad books, and i hope someone out there knows the gems one should really read.

I don't know if I'm wording this right but I'm looking for a complete C/C++ compiler + IDE setup that has Win 10 compatibility that can install to under half a gigabyte or be installed to a USB device. I last used Dev C++ over a decade ago and would like something similar and modern to use

>>34298

>crash course for game development

Best way to do it is get a compiler and start nodevving. That's how the early devs did it, and it's still a good way to go. Get to a problem, bang your head on your desk, overcome it, repeat. Do it enough times and you will eventually git gud.

Most of the good reading material is free. The best thing about programming is that you don't need to spend a dollar to become a nodev. If you want to learn best language and have 5 years to spare, I recommend the following:

http://www.stroustrup.com/C++11FAQ.html

https://isocpp.org/faq

http://gameprogrammingpatterns.com/

Books on graphics are dependent on what engine/API you want to use and what kind of game you want to make.

>>34314

No offense, but your post is entirely unhelpful and totally offtopic.

I've learned a dozen different languages, i know the basics of coding, what i asked about was (language agnostic) concepts for software development to manage the complexity of large software projects. And the way there is not to bang your head against the wall, but to learn from other smart people and what they've figured out.

I want to make a VN engine in python with pygame.

I am aware of ren'py, but I want to prove to myself that I'm good enough. I just wanted to make this post to remind myself why I started this whole shit. I hope next time I read this, I'll be in a good state of mind.

>>34331

Maybe you could change the scope of your game: reduce the features of the first game you're making. One of the critically important lessons of creation is actually completing the creation. By reducing the scope and then completing a creation, you will have accumulated significantly more skills and insight than just endlessly slogging through a massive project that will not be finished in the near future. The great thing about games is that you can make sequels that are "bigger and better" because they rest upon a foundation of the insights of your completed work.

>>29207

If you still here, check out Angry Goy games.

It is what you need.

https://www1.thepiratebay3.to/torrent/16657115/Angry_Goy

https://www1.thepiratebay3.to/torrent/27578206/Angry_Goy_II_roflcopter2110_WWRG

P.S: But next time don't walk here and just ask "mak gaem fo me reeee !!1!!1"

If you really believe in your idea then make at least a working prototype yourself and show the results.

This will increase the chance that some fellow "/pol/tards" will join your team and you finally will make your dream a true.

>>29464

>It would be nice to also have something for the linux terminal, but I can't find a very straightforward tutorial.

Nothing is straightforwards in linux lol

>>34334

Aren't VNs just pictures with text and buttons which lead to other pictures?

>>34382

>Nothing is straightforwards in linux lol

actually the funny thing is that programming is one of the few things which is easier in Linux IMO. Most Linux distros come bundled with all the compilers you need all set up and ready to use, just g++ code.cpp and you're off. Windows was a fucking pain to set C++ up for, it delayed my nodev life by a couple years because I was too much of a dumb shota to figure out how to set up compiler

Absolutely! I've dabbled in game dev. For quick Qs, forums like Reddit's gamedev or Unity's community are gold. Dive into tutorials, start small, and keep creating!