80d94e No.16928222
It could be for any genre of game. This could be for anything in a game like story, design or mechanics. For me what I hate in particular are the same shit a lot of RPGs/JRPGs repeat. I'll name a few:
>In the story the church is bad
>In the story a certain race was good at inventing technology but the race went extinct
>Some ancient evil that once existed but hasn't been around for centuries is going to come back
>The protagonist has a mother but the father was killed/went missing
>Final boss is a god/has god-like powers
>Prior to fighting the final boss you'd have to collect different artifacts for their power or defeat bosses that represent the elements
>Obligatory giant forest where a wise/mythical race lives
>Game has fast travel (this breaks immersion and it's pointless to do if there's mounts or the map isn't that big anyways)
>You have an entire party of members that can die and be revived with items but if the MC dies then it's game over (looking at you Persona)
>Game has hundreds of different armor pieces you can put on but you'll still be in your default appearance
>Game has copy&paste dungeons
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e6b7c5 No.16928237
>>16928222
>In the story the church is bad
>Final boss is a god/has god-like powers
This is a trend in almost all modern Japanese fiction. It’s to the point where if a diety is introduced in the story they are almost guarunteed to be the main antagonist. Japs are obsessed with killing God(s). I think I remember someone saying this is a Shinto thing but I don’t really remember too well.
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80d94e No.16928259
>>16928237
Both Western and Japanese RPGs do the church is bad trope. Though I've noticed Western RPGs you find more laziness is story-writing with them. Most of the time it's:
>They aren't necessarily bad, but regular characters mock them or speak ill against them so they're treated like a joke
or
>They are bad but it's always the same reason they are in other RPGs. They just take Christianity from the Middle Ages and slap a different name on it.
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16d03c No.16928266
>"my propourse is motivated by child traumas" (hero that kills bandit, villain that seeks order because his family died)
>Empire good, Republic/Confederacy bad
>Bullshitium power source is used raw and there are no alternatives
>Railgun leaves a glowing trail like a lazer.
This one is new
>Hitscanners are bad for retro FPSs
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322d5d No.16928502
>>16928259
No they don't nigger. Dragon Age has that faggy feminist chantry that you don't even have an option to oppose. You have to side with the faggots and feminists instead of teaming with the Qunari in DA2, for example. The Qunari are the main threat, not the Chantry.
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ccb701 No.16928516
>>16928259
>>16928237
>>16928502
All religions in games (even tabletop games) are always so jarringly stupid that I can never treat them seriously or play a character tied to them that doesn't feel cringy. It's always
>fanatical doos boolt crusaders wearing great helmets and tabards with a symbol
or
>polytheistic pagans that are created in christian imagination of polytheistic religions, ie. you pick a god from the group and follow it fanatically just like the christian god, build temples for it and you can become priest of it
In reality, Greek and Roman (the best known polytheistic religions) religions were used as an expression of art, explanation of supernatural phenomenons (like earthquakes), personification of feelings (when you fall in love it's Aphrodite's blessing) or satisfaction of human desire for sacrum and transcendency (like participation in Eleusinian mysteries). There were no 'pagan fanatics' per se, and even the slavs or baltics who resisted christianization did it on practical grounds (because their people were being raped and killed by an outside force), not out of religious fanaticism. When they found out they can appease the invaders by converting, they did so.
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04d467 No.16928517
>design and mechanics
<more than half is about the story
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f346c9 No.16928527
First persons in RPGs. And overally games that are not FPS.
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d8d11d No.16928544
>Online game
>Patch adds new mechanic or feature that isn't fully fleshed out or supported yet
>The new mechanic or feature is cool but isn't popular because it's not fully fleshed out or supported yet
>Developers never flesh out or fully support the mechanic because it wasn't popular
There are a million examples out there, but the worst offender is probably every single update released for Path of Exile. It's a hot bed of dropped, poorly-supported features.
>Game has tons of classes
>Restricts you to 2, 3, or 4 party members
>>16928222
>In the story a certain race was good at inventing technology but the race went extinct
It's always even more awkward because everybody insists on not talking about what happened to the race. They just disappear. Nobody knows where they went or what they did, and writers keep trying to pass it off as some deep mystery to think about, when the reality is that the writers never put more thought in them beyond the fact that a race existed and then disappeared. It's such a shitty story element.
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11297c No.16928549
>>16928544
> but the worst offender
Warframe by far. Their dev cycle has been nothing but chasing trends for years.
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e503dd No.16928551
>>16928222
I also hate the Church is bad cliche. When I played Grandia 2 which I consider a fantastic JRPG, I prayed that they would not go with that plot "twist". Still enjoyed the story, but wished they didn't do it. Others go with "not all the Church is bad", by giving you a party member who is a member of
the Church, but the pope and the rest of the Church are evil and if you have to kill them all, but hey not all are bad, amiright?
>>16928527
>First persons in RPGs
Have you never played a first person dungeon crawler?
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832867 No.16928598
>>16928517
>move right, jump over dangers, ???, bowsette
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cce30a No.16928600
>>16928222
>I hate JRPGs, The Post
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d724c3 No.16928620
>>16928600
Well yeah, it's an extremely repetitive genre.
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cce30a No.16928635
>>16928620
I'm not disagreeing, I just wanted to point out that OP could've just named this thread "I hate JRPGs and here's why".
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9354e2 No.16928688
>>16928600
JRPGs are kusoge
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5f4d3d No.16928825
AAAs had this weird set of gimmicks in the mid-2010s and probably well beyond that, but 2014-2016 was the period when I was paying attention where you would have some combination of
>thirtysomething protagonist man with family
>bad thing happen family to motivate plot
>swan diving from towers into hay
>third person pseudo-beatemup where a circle of henchmen/orcs/kuffars wait their turn to get combo'd to death by you
>spend XP in skill trees to unlock more combo
And so on.
Someone who actually gives a shit probably built a whole bingo card.
>>16928266
>Empire good, Republic/Confederacy bad
What, like in a Star Wars context?
>>16928688
If only. Kusoge are at least funny.
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80d94e No.16928879
>>16928502
You'd have a point if I were talking about any video game church, I'm just talking about the ones portrayed as antagonists which wasn't your example.
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80d94e No.16928882
>>16928551
>Others go with "not all the Church is bad", by giving you a party member who is a member of the Church, but the pope and the rest of the Church are evil and if you have to kill them all, but hey not all are bad, amiright?
I played Tales of Berseria last year and it did the exact same thing.
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148a85 No.16928885
>>16928266
Which way Western man?
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8d97f8 No.16928895
>>16928222
>jelly covered bloody screen/screen blacking out as you get more hurt
The last thing an already struggling player needs is to lose the ability to fucking see.
>boss fights you can't win
Assuming you went into the game blind, you may end up wasting consumables/time against a boss you are supposed to lose to.
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525caa No.16928901
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>>16928544
>They just disappear. Nobody knows where they went or what they did, and writers keep trying to pass it off as some deep mystery to think about
Or that they mention that this technology came from the extinct race, demonstrating that they are fully aware it exists, and it is either buried under a marginally thin layer of soil (which only the hero finds despite it being right fucking next to where everyone lives) or everyone integrates this lost technology in their lives and yet they have no advancements of their own despite hundreds of years having passed. Bonus points for this extinct race still having some of their people left just to protect humanity from another race that wishes to kill everything.
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16d03c No.16928935
>>16928885
>>16928825
shit, i meant on >>16928266
>Empire bad/Republic and Confederacy good
but also can be
>Empire strong/Republic and Confederacy weak
New Vegas gives you that feel but if you know the lore well you can understand that they organized tribals, NCR in California is already a modern nation, you can asume that they have vehicles, boats and aircrafts by how they were in Fallout 2.
Also there is stuff like Valkiria Chronicles, some strategy games like stellaris i think use empire for absolutist large domains, the empire concept is a western concept, it was born from the word "imperator" that was a honorific title given to victorious generals and when August took power, it stuck to roman rulers since they were often successful generals so it was used as an euphemism for the word king (roman culture doesn't like kings). So calling any absolutist large dominion an empire is being lazy and will confuse people, like how the neckbeards argue if the Empire of Men is a fascist goverment when it's something else (consider that there is an upper goverment and a lower goverment that would sector goverment and other lower layer that is composed by planetary governors and this layer can be composed by an unique system depending on the planet, so it's something that hasn't existed before).
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6ca940 No.16930049
>>16928895
>jelly covered bloody screen
Seriously unless it's a mechanic for some kind of enemy that is supposed to blind me fuck off with the big red splattery distractions
>unwinnable boss fights
RPGS have prepared me for this so much that every time I'm having a hard time damaging a big bad after dancing around the arena for 2 seconds I stand there just to test it out
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80d94e No.16930206
Here's some I thought of
>RPG/JRPG has no beastiary log
>You can walk into any NPC house and take their shit and they won't mind
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