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>>16887267

>why does everyone think they can do time travel now?

Because it gives them a cheap way to make the point of death meaningless in the long run. Just kill off as many characters as needed to give the public the "right" amount of drama, and then bring them back in the next episode so that "everything is fine".

That sounds really dumb. Why take the weight out of Eli's death?

>>16887267

>why does everyone think they can do time travel now

Because it's exciting for normalfags. And even if you fuck it up like bioshit infinite or life is strange did you can make retards pretend it's 2deep

I HATE NIGGERS

Alyx voice sounds like a sassy bitch ghetto nigger it's so infuriating.

Is she right /v/?

>>16887312

No, she's a corperate e-thot working for endgadget. Fuck yourself to death with a rusty steak knife.

>>16887312

>she

no.

>You can aim a gun at yourself but you can't kill yourself

0/10

>Eli seems to be perfectly aware of what’s happened, cursing “unforeseen consequences”

I can already see "Unforeseen consequences" becoming Half Life's forced meme tagline, just like "Rip and tear."

>>16887323

even superhot got that right

>>16887312

>Valve doesn't churn out sequels yearly so they're bad

huh?

>>16887326

H3VR did it, and LA noire vr

>>16887326

I'm watching the game and I think both Boneworks and Superhot VR or that Online shooter (I forgot its name, I saw a video of someone assisting an enemy with reloading a bolt action, and then killing the other player) are more of a "BIG VR GAME" to justify the headset than alyx.

>>16887341

Also, unlike in Boneworks, Alyx doesn't have a body outside of the two hands

>>16887341

Pavlov is the multiplayer one you are probably thinking of.

HL:Alexa is Valve's attempt to get casualfags into VR. Meanwhile anyone worth his salt knows that casualfags getting into something is always the death knell of said thing. And normalfags will never get into VR untill the price drops massively regardless.

>>16887339

H3VR is the told standard for VR games. Certainly hands down the best shooter.

>>16887356

>Pavlov

Yeah, that's the one.

>>16887369

Writer's convenience

>>16887369

Providing a semblance of legitimacy to a retcon

But from OP it's bullshit because

>interdimensional man of mystery and cosmic powers G-man somehow gets captured and needs to be freed by a sheboon, G-man can't use his powers to destroy the combines or even escape capture (too much effort) but can manipulate space and time continuum to rewind the clock, and prevent a death.

>>16887369

So it doesn't feel like such an asspull when Gordon goes back in time to prevent the resonance cascade.

Screenshot this.

>>16887390

I can't wait for HL3 to either completely ignore who G-Man is or ruin him forever.

>>16887395

>resonance cascade never happens

>game ends with you pushing in the cart and then going to grab a coffee

>>16887369

literally deus ex machina

>>16887411

we don't post that here

>>16887408

Any elaboration on G-man will ruin the character because his mystery is the character.

>Who is he working for?

>What's the extent of his power?

>What are his goals, plans?

>What is he: human, alien?

None of those questions should be answered

The only way his capture would've worked narratively is if he was merely pretending and setting up the ruse to free gordon as a means of testing and recruiting alyx.

>>16887369

To cover all your flaws as a shit writer

>>16887415

>>Who is he working for?

The Illuminati

>>What's the extent of his power?

Before or after the events of the first Half-Life?

>>What are his goals, plans?

To have unlimited power, or did you drop the game after leaving the complex?

>>What is he: human, alien?

Human

EVERYTHING WHAT FUCKING EXPLAINED AT THE END OF THE FIRST GAME!!!

>>16887415

>None of those questions should be answered

the magic box method eh Jar Jar Abrahams?

The answer to a mystery is an important part of any mystery plot. NOT having an answer is akin to not having an ending and stopping the game halfway through.

>you can't beat enemies up using props

0/10 valve should just give up at this point.

>>16887433

I just don't believe in the writers having competence to give something satisfying so I'd rather they not bother at all.

>>16887441

what do you mean, I'm pretty sure I've seen someone beating a zombie with a metal bar

>>16887325

>anon has forgotten the cake meme

>>16887443

Doesn't work with a barrel though

full ending

>Alyx can heal black headcrab neurotoxin without an HEV suit

Melanin super powers?

>>16887369

As mentioned, it's shit writing to cover up plot inconveniences after leaving a narrative unattended for 13 years.

Also probably as a means to get back at Laidlaw for leaking what was going to the end a few years ago.

>>16887465

>Epistle 3 was 3 years ago

Jesus fucking christ anon

>>16887487

>We did it invoker, that sure was a splendid defense of the ancients.

>We are the counter-strike, this is a global offensive

>I understand everything, you were Dishonored 2, Delilah

>No Morgan, Yu are the prey

Why do idiotic memes keep becoming reality?

>>16887502

>Now it's Your Turn To Die, Miss Sara

>We're Team Fortress, and you're dead

>Listen up, Phones! The World Ends With You

>We're Sonic Heroes!

>BEHOLD, GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS

This has been going on for a long ass time, anon.

>>16887298

It's a dramatic moment, and it's not like there's much use for the character going forward into HL3. What good does unkilling him do, other than to take the sting out of death, and lower the stakes?

>>16887487

this, why not give her a unique weapon? adrian grabbed a fucking wrench and barney was already carrying a gun, alyx should have had a taser or something like that

>>16887512

That was Gordon at the end. Still, it's fucking retarded. He didn't pick up the Crowbar™ because it's some signature weapon, he uses it because it was his only defense before he picked up a gun. It makes literally no sense to hand to hand someone a useless piece of metal when they've got a weapons cache available to them.

Or course this same bullshit happens in HL2 when Barney hands you a crowbar at the start, but it was also retarded there.

>someoone is trapped in a floating prison

>decide to crash the prison into the ground

Isn't that a little dangerous?

>>16887502

don't forget The Dentist trailer for Payday 2 where they make him say the name

>After all, I want my Payday, too.

to be fair the game does look very good aesthetically and grafics-wise. that's about all I can say

>>16887267

> Combine have actually captured G-Man

I was interested UNTIL THAT

holy fuck there's so much wrong with this it isn't even funny

>>16887539

i think it's more or less he let them capture him so he could get to Alyx

>>16887542

Doesn't make sense considering he basically gets to Gordon anytime, I can buy them capturing the G-man considering the Vorts could interfere with him without much effort until they're busy healing Alyx.

>>16887542

that's even more retarded

he's the fucking G-man, he could have done that at any time

>>16887542

That seems pretty contrived. Then again, it's hard to tell because we have no idea what exactly the G-Man can do, so the writers are free to bullshit anything they want.

>>16887510

Wait what, when does beat ever say that to Neku? Or was it Hanekoma?

Why does Alyx even owe the gman anything? She freed him, him preventing Eli's death would just be paying her back.

>half-life

>gordon saves the day and gets imprisoned in some sort of cryostasis by g-man for future use

>half-life 2

>gordon and alyx save the day, gordon gets put in cryostasis again by g-man

>half-life 2 episode 1

>gordon is broken out of cryostasis by aliens, escapes from city 17 with alyx

>half-life 2 episode 2

>gordon and alyx make it to their allies base, stop the bad guys, alyx's father dies

>half-life alyx

>years before half-life 2, alyx tries to save gordon from the combine and ends up saving the g-man, ends up saving her father years later and disappears

So uh

what happened between Half-Life Alyx and Half-Life 2? Wouldn't her dad know what happened and try to prevent it? And why did G-Man say Gordon failed? Is he supposed to wipe out the combine? If so, why does G-Man not want to do that?

This seems shit.

>>16887558

>half-life

>gordon saves the day and gets imprisoned in some sort of cryostasis by g-man for future use

Or. he becomes Doomguy, remember that the game gave the player a choice.

>>16887559

>choice

Can't have that in our Cinematic Experiences™

>>16887559

>becomes Doomguy

with no weapons? doubt it

>>16887554

Eli brought Alyx to work on the day the resonance cascade happened. GMan set things up so that the two of them could escape alive, at Eli's request.

It was already implied by GMan that he saw potential in Alyx as a future employee, or some shit like that. I think it was also implied Eli believed his daughter would be taken by GMan at some point as repayment for saving her life.

Gordon didn't really owe GMan anything at the end of Half-Life, either.

Just one last thing. Im not sure about that i want Adrian back in HL anymore. The man died peacefully in a nuclear explosion, spared from this hell.

>>16887557

It's more like they took the idea of the trade with g-man and shoehorned a time travel retcon in so now you don't go to the borealis, you go to the g-man.

>>16887557

Epistle 3 was at least a continuation instead of an out of nowhere retcon.

>>16887558

Alyx did a time jump into the future and didn’t return, so then where did the Alyx that was in Half Life 2 come from? Obviously there are two different timeline continuities now in Half Life.

One timeline where she didn’t find the G-Man at the end of this new game and thus continued through Half Life 2 as we know it (her dad died) and a second timeline where she met G-Man at the end of this game and saved her father.

In the Alyx game’s timeline, she just disappeared after finding the G-Man, leaving that timeline void of an Alyx for Half Life 2.

In the prime timeline, Alyx never had the option to save her dad, appeared in Half Life 2, and was then later deleted by the G-Man during the climax of Episode 2 because an Alyx from another timeline, who disappeared before Half Life 2 made a deal with G-Man to save an alternate timeline’s version of her father.

She doesn’t actually save her own father from her own timeline because she was taken out of time and those events at the end of Episode Two literally can’t happen. G-Man basically tricked her by making her think it was her dad.

Now it looks like they’re continuing games in the Prime timeline. Prime Alyx had nothing to do with the deal NuAlyx made and now suffers for it. NuAlyx will now have her own spin-off adventure totally separate from the Prime timeline.

From the prime timeline’s perspective, G-Man is just being a fag and took Alyx (because that timeline’s Alyx never made any deal).

I’m more interested in what a Half Life 2 would be in the NuAlyx timeline where Alyx disappeared before the events of Half Life 2 than continuing with the Prime timeline because the prime timeline is now shittily disturbed through inter-timeline meddling, throwing off all the character motivations and leaving the protagonists impossibly clueless as to what actually happened or why.

>A Half Life 2 without Alyx

>Imagine

>>16887456

MUHFUGGIN UNFOHSEEN CONSEQUENTIALS

That was also the most boring G-Man monologue I've yet to see.

>>16887614

Yeah, he doesn't really sound like an alien trying to speak english with strange breathing inbetween sentences but just sounds like an old man trying to do a voice he did 20 years ago.

>>16887556

the consequences are unforeseen

>>16887267

I'd say it's the only way thay had to start writing themselves out of the corner that is the entire setting of half life two. now that none of the main cast is dead, the tone is lightened up, if only slightly. the concept of time travel always existed i. this game anyway with the teleportation mishap and the rumors of the borealis. the only real problem will be if the sequel which I'm still doubtful is on the table even after this game follows beat-for-beat the episode three story leak and they still don't finish the damn series a la Shenmue 3.

>>16887636

existed in*

>>16887636

they can't follow the leak anymore

alyx isn't in it anymore, so the entire ending sequence is fucked

if they even wanted to try that, they need to do a rescue alyx segment which is nowhere in the leak

>>16887627

Foreseeing the unforseen consequences requires a lot of personal responsibility

>didn't think this would have any effect on the overall plotline, maybe explaining how a few things ended up the way they were in HL2 like the seven hour war

>ended up with lore assrape of the highest caliber that completely retcons a story that has had no ending for 13 years

MODERN VIDYA

>>16887641

more like Half Life: Full Life: No Life: Unseen Consequences amirite

>>16887636

>the concept of time travel always existed

Yes but they would've used a fucking boat to do that. Not some g-man fuck that apparently is able to do all but write good fanfic. This is just beyond retarded.

>>16887267

Who is it now that's repeating half life's name?

Who is dragging this corpse around?

What was it's original face before it's father and mother were born?

What is this?

Who is it?

This couldn't have been any different.

>>16887661

It's VR so shit obviously

>>16887661

you get two weapons, those being a shogun and a pistol, and a dinky gravity gun knockoff you can't use offensively

you can upgrade them at least

it's also all in VR so take that how you will

>>16887661

Pavlov, Superhot, H3 and Boneworks all offer a better VR gameplay.

You can't even bash enemies with props because there's alyx's puny arms lack strength and velocity for a proper swing.

>>16887674

>can ambush several combine in the beginning of 2 and you can hear audible punches and strikes

>can't do any of that here

what a load of horseshit

>>16887653

g-man already showcased his time travel powers by transporting gordon 14 years into the future at the start of HL2, though. Even if you want to write it off as him putting gordon in stasis, not time travel, he's not any less cryptic because of it, and he's still limited by the Vortigaunts.

>>16887674

Boneworks should be the base floor for how every VR shoorter is supposed to work, and I hope that if Valve continues with this effort into VR games they start taking notes. As Alyx is right now, it really shows that they thought they could have a Killer App for VR by only relying on the Half Life brand recognition.

>>16887684

It seems really awkward and difficult to pick up large props like barrels, and there is no actual melee, you can shove an enemy but killing is impossible.

>>16887715

Pretty good

>>16887734

Stay gone, nigger.

>>16887636

>they can't follow the leak anymore

No. They just did. G-man traded Gordon for Alyx.

>>16887734

>totally not a shill

>>>/v/16887734

go back

>>16887734

Were things ever any different?

>>16887695

>Even if you want to write it off as him putting gordon in stasis, not time travel, he's not any less cryptic because of it

Ok reddit. Waiting for 14 years is not the same as traveling to the future to change the past. Stop making excuses for shit writing.

also i just realized something about alyx that pisses me off

the original voice actor for eli died a couple years ago so they got a different guy to do the voice for the prequel, then they retconned his character's death. so while they were sitting on their asses for 13 years waiting for "da rite tyme" the actor died while his character now outlives him

fuck valve

>>16887841

yeah, that was unsettling to see

>>16887456

I never liked Alyx but her new voice actor doesn't match at all

so where's the r34 at

>>16887875

Soon

>>16887841

That's pretty fucked up and disrespectful to the deceased

What if Alyx were like 350 lbs and you had to compensate for that during VR? Like she couldn't fit through narrow spaces due to all her rolls and you had to move objects out of the way to fit her thicc ass through. I think that would be cool.

>>16887910

there's one section where you have to physically crouch or you'll bonk your head.

Alyx is weak as fuck and can't melee in any real capacity.

>VR could be used to let people experience what it's like to be disabled like being a manlet

>>16887910

fuck you nigger

>>16887911

>>VR could be used to let people experience what it's like to be disabled like being a woman.

>>16887661

Not terrible, but is hurt by Valve being way too conservative and afraid of making people sick. Continuous locomotion is too slow, to go fast you have to teleport/shift (which you can do even if you have it set to continuous). Level design is very good given the self-imposed limitations, but the way that jumping is done as a teleport sucks and makes traversal less interesting. I've only got the pistol and shotgun so far, apparently there's one more gun. The pistol feels like shit to use while the shotgun is pretty good.

>>16887945

>retconning a 13 year old cliffhanger

Perhaps they did it so they wouldn't have to write a conclusion for it that lives up to people's expectations

>>16887963

>they avoided having to write a satisfying conclusion by writing a terrible conclusion

It's like poetry.

>>16887852

Oh god great example.

I'm gonna miss LoK.

Regarding the story, the G-man can't ever be explained: HL1 was always a lovecraftian story at heart. Horrible things are happening (xen invasion) and they hint at even greater horrible things (who the Nihilanth is running from). You don't know what's going on and you're being used. Any attempt to explain the setting fully would feel like a bad fanfic.

But more importantly,

Any anon playing it? How's the actual VR gameplay? Can you move or just teleport?

>>16887976

>Can you move or just teleport?

Two seconds on Google would tell you. Yes, you can do smooth locomotion, reluctantly so considering Valve implemented it three months before the game came out.

>>16887976

I haven't played it but so far as I've seen, you can walk normally but it's very, very slow, teleportation, or at least "shifting" is a must if you want to go fast, and "jumping" is entirely done with teleportation.

>>16887983

Watching some of the gameplay with the constant teleportation is like watching a fucking rapid slideshow. I don't get how you could play with that enabled without your brain turning to mush.

>>16887295

Written into a corner.

>>16887852

If anything it looked more like he transported people to a pocket dimension where time moves incredibly slow.

But the ambiguity was the best part of it, know Gman is Dr Who.

Bet the writer is from Campo Santo, I'll bet my left nut on it.

>>16887987

Teleportation/shift works better if you have a big play space so you can physically move around and only teleport for large distances. In a small space it sucks.

Been watching some gameplay, the music and writing is some modern hollywood tier safe bullshit.

>>16887395

That would resolve fucking nothing in Half-Life and I can believe modern Valve would go for it.

>>16888034

There's no better way to say "we shouldn't have made this game/series in the first place" than by a galactic reset.

>>16888036

A galactic reset is exactly how Avengers: Endgame should have ended, but you know that Disney can't allow that because they're going to milk this shit for the next decade.

>>16888041

So how's Source 2? Impressive, okay, dated?

>>16888042

Impressive for VR. It blows Boneworks out of the water in damn near every quality aside from freedom of movement; No smooth turn is a serious turn off. Intractable objects leaves a little to be desired, then again I'm still longing for the days when you could flip every lightswitch in Duke Nukem. Graphically nothing comes close to it; Not sure how optimization is since I'm on a 2070 and that's pretty overkill for the recommended specs, which should bode well.

Overall pretty damn good.

>>16887976

Gameplay is solid. It's definitely the VR Killer App that Boneworks was for the 3 months it was out. More than anything it does atmosphere well. Let me tell you nothing is scarier than 2-liter sized manhacks haphazardly flying in your direction. One serious letdown is the lack of dedicated melee weapon, or any melee from what I've played(Picked up iron bar and tried swinging at a headcrab zombie to no avail). Grabbity Gloves are so goddamn intuitive and fun to use, better than any force grab mechanic I've seen an other VR game. It's a mixed bag so far but overall I'm enjoying and hopefully immune from hl2 nostalgia, which it pulls a few times in settings and SFX(Thought hl2 was boring and largely contrived compared to hl1).

Smooth locomotion works, but it's very slow and teleporting is just faster unfortunately. Hopefully they'll add a run function, even if it's a H3VR-esque pantomime.

>>16888042

It will be amazing when they fucking release it to the public.

Which should take 10 more years surely

Now I don't care about Full Kiked because it's been in decline since 2 but doesn't G-Man being powerless to remove the Combine, but also being fucking imprisoned by them negate Breen's whole "Did you know your contract is up to the highest bidder?" Quote?

Also is this an alternative timeline or someshit, the fuck, if this is the main timeline why the fuck was G-Man in prison before Half Life 2 WHY DO WE SEE ELI DIE AND NOT GET SAVED BY THE END OF HALF LIFE 2 THEY COULD HAVE JUST MADE HER REVIVE HIM THEN LEAVE.

Who cares anymore fuck this.

>>16887557

This is one of those times where fan theories would have been better. Many fans back when the Orange Box came out, bringing Episode 2 and Portal at the same time, speculated that the Borealis carried teleportation or portal technology. The theorized plot of episode three was going to be Gordon and friends using the Borealis's technology to deliver a nuke to the Combine homeworld. Avenging Eli's death by doing such immense damage to the leaders of the Combine that it would either destroy the Combine or the Combine would give up on trying to take over Earth because Earth is more trouble than it's worth.

>>16888042

Here's what Source 2 does well:

>Much better texture streaming than Unreal Engine, I get a split-second of texture pop-in when I load from the main menu

>Really fucking good lighting

>The new Rubicon physics engine is everything you'd hope for from a successor to Source's physics

Here's what Source 2 doesn't do well:

>Still uses loading screens instead of level streaming (I assume this is only for VR games to keep the minimum spec in-line with budget VR machines)

Rubicon has two big bugs:

>Multiple times when I pulled an object out from underneath another, the object that was above it would hang in the air, unaffected by physics for a few seconds before physics started working again and it'd fall to the floor

>Less common than the first one, but I still had 2-3 times where I'd pick up an object and objects that were touching it would "stick" to it for a few seconds in a way that looks like it's a child of the held objects transform.

>>16888055

At least Alyx is getting mod tools (eventually) so we can get a taste of what the Source 2 modding scene will look like

>>16888045

>>16888050

Interesting. Thanks for commenting.

>>16888055

They might never do that since they're trying to sell VR.

>>16888068

>Really fucking good lighting

This does make me want to play it. Someday I'll own a headset.

> Alyx is getting mod tools

VR user created content could be a VR seller more than this game.

How long is the campaign?

>>16888069

>How long is the campaign?

Campaign is 8-10 hours

>VR user created content could be a VR seller more than this game.

Yeah, makes me wish Anton would finish H3VR. He said he was going to make mod tools for it once it was out of early access

>>16887715

My fucking sides.

Can we list the ==TECHNOLOGY== found in Alyx? What I noticed during my playthrough

>Cans crush depending on how hard you grip the Index controllers

>Markers that work on glass surfaces and whiteboards

>Wearing hat while walking underneath barnacle will remove the hat

>Can inject healing kits on damn near any body part

>Can pull back the slide slightly to check if a round is in the chamber of your pistol

am i the first to be reminded of tupac in his whack-ass crystal prison?

Fucking alternative timelime plot shit, just leave that to modders.

On the topic of G-man, if I remember correctly, Laidlaw said that the G-man belonged to another enslaved race by the combine, it just shows up as human to be familiar with the enviroment it is in.

I kind of imagine it is like a sleep paralysis demon/alien that can shapeshift/mentally control people and have the ability to shift themselves and other people from place to place. I guess the combine enslaved hundred of other species and civilizations, so the aliens who the G-man belongs to acts as agent saboteurs everywhere they go "hiring" anyone resourceful enough to chip away combine influence in controlled worlds.

Uhh, imagine G-Slug in Planet-X12 hiring Slug Freeman to bomb combine algae farms to cut off combine fishmen troops in the planet or some shit like that.

>>16888166

>I kind of imagine it is like a sleep paralysis demon/alien that can shapeshift/mentally control people and have the ability to shift themselves and other people from place to place

I've been reading Marc Laidlaw's novels and fiction as part of the research for my whole Half-Life project that I'd talked a bit about in another thread and it was neat to note in his novel The Thirty-Seventh Mandala how reminiscent its villains were of both the GMan and the player character in Half-Life (not Gordon, Barney, Adrian, Gina, Green or Alyx; the being who's possessing them) - when its villains are very much the type of being you're describing now.

>>16887914

Spotted the fat fuck

>>16888215

Go back

The only thing I want out of this whole shitshow is source 2 so we can get Zombie Master 2. Imagine how fun that would be.

>>16888159

>>Can inject healing kits on damn near any body part

Why are you lying when alyx doesn't have a body?

All of the other things were done in h3, boneworks and others.

>>16888050

>Grabbity Gloves are so goddamn intuitive and fun to use, better than any force grab mechanic I've seen an other VR game

a bit disappointing that they don't add velocity to your throw giving a similar combat ability like the gravity gun had.

>>16888316

Alyx's body is "fully simulated"(Valve's words, not mine) but not visible to keep the body from getting in the way of the player view. If you inject a health kit into where your chest or forearm should be, you'll be healed, etc.

>>16888367

>not visible to keep the body from getting in the way of the player view

Why do i get the feeling its more likely that they didn't want players feeling up her body instead?

>>16888369

I'm sure that was a factor but there are many times in the game where you're supposed to look down at things. The game loves making you down off balconies or catwalks at puzzles or enemies below for some reason. If Alyx had a fully rendered body her tits would get in the way.

>>16888269

spotted the chubby chasing subhuman

>>16888367

I see, how does it adjust to player's height?

>>16888374

Since VR devs decided that the body must be bound to where the headset is. If it was possible to lean in VR, wouldn't really be an issue. But for some reason the hot thing in VR development right now is making the body stand in a constant rigid upright position that follows the headset

>>16888367

>Alyx's body is "fully simulated"(Valve's words, not mine) but not visible to keep the body from getting in the way of the player view.

I don't think this is true. Valve said in interviews that they have simulated arms to prevent physically impossible actions like closing a file cabinet with your hand in it, but first thing I did when I saw a file cabinet was try to do that and it worked fine.

>>16888369

Displaying a body without full body tracking can get very janky and for many use cases is worse than just having disembodied hands. The parts of your character model that aren't directly linked to a tracker on your body are very likely to be positioned differently from the corresponding parts of your actual body, which is awkward if you're trying to use the body for physics interactions.

>>16888378

I use a Windows headset which allows you to manually set your height and I set mine so that grabbing objects off the floor actually puts my wands just an inch or two above my floor. Because the standard height it gives you makes it so you actually hit the floor to grab floor objects

>>16888379

>>16888383

the 360's Kinect was capable of body tracking but at one angle only. I wonder if splitting it across 2 points would allow for full body tracking without the need of strapping shit to you knees and chest,

>>16888050

>>16888215

>>16888166

>>16888045

Fuck off shills

>>16888394

Word to the wise, you can use a kinect, and a headset. Xboner kinect might have a bit of trouble tracking tho

>>16888412

I actually remember hearing that the 360's Kinect is more precise than the Boner's for some reason.

>>16887657

If nothing else, it adds tension to a story when a character can actually die.

>>16888429

It's not that it's more precise it's that the way the 360's kinect does tracking is interfered with less by VR shit than the boner's

How many of you have even played the game? Seems you all watched your favorite e-celeb play it and didn't like the story so it's shit 0/10.

The gameplay itself is honestly really impressive on a technical level. Just like the original Half Life, Alyx does it's absolute best to make sure everything in the game can be interacted with. The physics itself with objects in the game is top notch, the puzzles are very amusing to solve, etc. Watching someone play it is not even close to comparable with how immersive it actually is to play it in game.

Basically what I'm saying is it's immersive as all hell, solving puzzles, using the gravity gun and shooting enemies is very satisfying. I haven't finished it yet so I will take anons word on them dropping the ball with the story, but honestly I bought it for the game play and immersion so I don't care much about the story at this point. Half Life was never known for having an incredible story, people just love G-man and Gordon.

I still can't decide if it's a gimmick yet but I'm leaning towards gimmick, just like the majority of VR experiences, but I still recommend it for anyone that has VR because the first play through is a blast. Definitely not worth dropping all that money on VR just for this game though, not a system seller.

They just can't seem to get movement right in VR, it doesn't feel intuitive at all and it really fucks up the experience for all VR games including HL Alyx. Casuals are forced to teleport around because they are too weak and get motion sickness from normal movement, while the rest of us move around "normally" as slow as a snail because Valve is afraid to give us actual movement speed.

Once they stop being afraid and decide to go all in by going back to classic dual analog joystick for movement and camera, all VR games will be so much better. The new valve index controllers are perfect for that movement type. People bitch about motion sickness but if you just suck it up, take breaks and keep playing your body gets used to it in a matter of a couple of days. Basically, consumers bitching about motion sickness and devs not being willing to take that risk is holding back all VR games big time.

>>16888472

Thank you Mr. Valve™ Employee

>>16888506

It's better than boneworks.

>>16888513

It doesn't have actual melee, so It can't be.

>>16888513

I keep hearing it regurgitated that Valve's tech is WAY better than Boneworks. But there is no substance to it whatsoever, it is just regurgitated without any justification. Just that you are supposed to accept it. Why is it better? The only thing I have seen this thread is "nothing is scarier than 2-litre sized manhacks", which has nothing to do with comparison to it. In fact, the only thing that shows is that you are scared of water bottles.

>>16888520

Reminder you can't shoot yourself with your own gun, you can't grapple enemies either

>>16887715

What parody is this?

>>16888584

This. Fucking newfag with they facebook shit references.

>>16888637

So it does still happen. I feel a kind of inner peace now.

>>16888584

Loss

>>16888662

Tell me…

If I take the wheelchair off…

Will she start complaining that I'm invalidating her trans-disabled identity?

>>16888683

Western society is dying and Weimerica is leading the way

>>16888662

Fucking cyber police

>>16888687

corona is making sure their promiscuous lifestyle is ground to a halt at least.

>>16888683

Funnily enough the blond tranny looks the least disgusting.

>>16888721

>he knows what men want

Fair enough

So is the Citadel being constructed in this game? I thought it was dropped finished from space or something.

>>16888737

In fact I'm sure I read it somewhere.

>>16888737

There's a white board in Alyx's lookout at the very start of the game with multiple drawings and text detailing it's construction progress.

>>16888934

Yeah I was trying to put my finger on it instead of resorting to buzzwords but you're right, it's the cheeks, new Gordon is literally a mouth breather.

>>16888932

to be fair that's future alyx during gman's trip, you only see her for a couple seconds. and Gordon is only seen in complete darkness so all you really need is the form

>>16888938

It's obvious when you play the game that these models are low detail because they're presented in low light conditions. Older Alyx is in a dimly lit scene and you don't directly see her face unless you physically go prone to get that angle. And Gordon is only silhouetted.

>>16888932

>>16888934

If Half Life 1 would come out today, you'd call him soy boy too, don't kid yourself.

>>16888957

She's blasian, better get used to it becasue that's what China is creating in africa.

>>16888971

she now looks more nigger asian than asian nigger

>>16888971

HOW THE FUCK DOES THE >DECADE OLD MODEL LOOK BETTER, VALVE YOU NIGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS

>>16888982

Wu-Flu is Combine plot confirmed.

Writers, for the love of god, IF YOUR STORY DIDN'T PLAN FOR TIME TRAVEL FROM THE BEGINNING, DO NOT ADD IT ON LATER. It never works. Never.

>>16888946

>>16888932

He literally looks fatter. In 1's cover art, his face and neck are narrow and gaunt. He has the look of a predator. In that newer render, all his features are rounded off and there are no visible lines where the skin would sink in anywhere on his face or neck. He looks merely confused.

>>16888919

this looks like people cosplaying as freeman and alyx.

>>16888971

"expectations vs reality" /r/hapas edition

>>16887267

>it is shit

Didn't need to play it to tell you that one. This thing set off red flags like crazy long before it released.

>why time travel

It is popular and worked in that movie people liked so now management/bad writers everywhere think they can cash in on it regardless of their ability to write such a thing into whatever setting they are currently ass raping for a tidy profit.

>>16888971

Disgusting. Not that I was expecting anything else given the times we live in, but still sad to see.

>>16889067

>worked in that movie

Only if you're a goddamn retard who can't think beyond the next 5 seconds. Time travel has to either have a very strictly defined set of rules, or be between time periods so far apart that any butterfly effects can be ironed out.

>>16889068

Given that the last game was years ago, that is probably true.

>>16889074

>Only if you're a goddamn retard who can't think beyond the next 5 seconds

Who do you think this garbage is trying to aim for?

Can someone tell me why the Combine chose to let humanity live, and go through all the bullshit of making a police force?

Also, they just want to strip mine Earth right? They're pretty much the aliens from Battlefield: Earth. I bet Gordon is gonna teleport to their homeworld and leave a resonance bomb or some shit like that.

>>16889103

That's been answered for a long long time. The combine's modus operandi is to conquer and absorb species into their inter-dimensional empire.

But the main reason why they want humanity is because they're retards that can't figure out teleportation within a dimension while humans were able to do so.

I expected this thread to be 200% shitting on this garbage game and it's prequel. Instead we have retards who unironically like it. My disappointment is immeasurable

>>16889116

Fuck you man I enjoyed the game and I had fun.

Why is /v/ infested with faggots that seem emotionally invested in games being bad?

>>16889116

This is the first VR game I've every seen a run through of. It looks really detailed and interactive, which I imagine is enjoyable and miles ahead of any other VR game to day. You have to remember that people put money into VR sets and have felt like utter trash for doing so for a long time, perhaps this progressive game alleviates the sting?

>>16889118

This isn't cuckchan /v/ faggot.

>>16889120

I had some problems but I still loved it.

>only 3 weapons even if they were all upgradable. I would have really liked a sniper rifle.

>No Melee. Valve gave a bullshit reason that it's because VR can't do haptic feedback but walking dead saints and sinners did amazing melee combat.

>No smooth turning but they just patched that in so I can't complain anymore.

>Continuous walking speed was way way to fucking slow.

On the plus side the shooting is fucking great. I can't explain how but the firearms felt much much better than Boneworks, Pavlov, and walking dead.

>>16889124

Shut the fuck up, Beccafag. No matter the subject, your opinion doesn't count.

>>16889082

>Who do you think this garbage is trying to aim for?

Yeah, I know, I love trashy movies, but they still have to be well directed. Introducing a colossal ass pull just pisses me off. Even the Resident Evil movies had some level of justification for the shit they pull. The Marvel shit is just stupid flashy shit after stupid flashy shit.

>>16889118

Hey cuckchan

>>16889160

>The Steam forums are literally always full of bitching

You aren't fooling anyone shillberg. Steam forums are only barely any better than resetera and reddit. It's constant dev dick-sucking, retarded reposts and anyone who doesn't love the game of that forum is banned for "hate".

>>16888584

Consequences may never be the same, but newfags will never fucking change. Please kill yourself, lurk for 2 years then kill yourself again.

>>16888919

Who is the guy next to Freeman?

>>16889199

Actually, SPUDs more aligned in being absolutely wrong regardless of whether or not the game is shit.

Like the tf2 spuds unironically shilling for esports faggotry despite esports faggotry taking a game that had gone on for nearly decade killing gigantic chunk of it and making it over reliant on valve in less than a year.

Hell, tf2 is only so populated at this point because despite everything it's still a great fuckin game.

Now he looks like a normal middle-aged man.

Before he looked like an action movie protagonist/super-hero before they dropped their day to day look.

>>16889261

Yeah, but a little bit of that's gotta be down to it being based around the earlier models of gordon which were far more angular. Not excusing it, but kinda getting around to the reasons why it had looked like it did in the day.

Angulating the shit out of a face isn't really, friendly with some of the industry tools they use now.

After watching the ending, I'm even more annoyed by the use of time travel because it contradicts itself by design

>G-man says he needs to hire Alyx because Gordon is unruly

>Clear reference to Gordon post episode 1 retcon, where the Vortigaunts protect Gordon from him

>So, in this universe, the G-man either went back in time because he saw himself go back in time and hire Alyx/save Eli, thus the hire has no reason to happen beyond the fact that it happened

>Or he didn't see himself, and he skipped from the resonance cascade to HL2, got foiled by the Vortigaunts, went back to HL:A, hired Alyx, presumably deleted her memory of the encounter, went back into the future, and took her from there, in which case how does he know where to drop Gordon or travel back in time beyond plot powers.

TIME TRAVEL PLOTS NEVER MAKE SENSE

>>16889118

>Why is /v/ infested with faggots that seem emotionally invested in games being bad?

It's popular, therefore bad.

>>16889295

It's more competently written, but neither makes sense in-universe.

>>16889297

Time travel (at least backwards) is an inherent paradox.

>>16889305

Not when you bite the bullet and start adding distinct timelines.

>>16889307

Then that completely invalidates the concept because why should the timejump matter when in actually you are just moving into different reality.

You didnt actually save humanity, you just moved to another timeline where humanity never went to the shitter yet your original timeline is still doomed.

>>16889128

I don't have VR so I was watching this game from a distance out of curiosity, but I have played enough VR games to know that melee combat is fun regardless of a lack of feedback. It's strange to me that Valve seemingly wanted to provide a "killer app" for VR, then half-assed it by not including things everyone would have expected like melee or the gravity gloves shooting objects, when they knew that the top thing missing from the VR market was "polished games." This was the one time you shouldn't have half-assed it.

>>16889269

They could have made a lame fat guy if they wanted. Gearbox proved that by putting Otis in OpFor. Instead they realized that a total pencilneck dweeb/doughy nerd probably wouldn't have resonated with the audience, even if they are all pencilneck dweebs and doughy nerds. It is a microcosm of the shift of the zeitgeist in this industry away from "idealist fantasy," that is wanting to play as a character who is better or cooler than yourself, to "representative fantasy," which is wanting to make literally every fucking game an allegory for the ills of society and ensuring that every character is representative of some kind of minority or ugly person.

>>16889335

Post more about the book, this thread is already shit enough.

>>16889116

The real retard here is you for still not understanding that 8kun is not 8chan, and 8kun is a shittier 4chan filled with normalfags and boomers.

>>16889307

Or you could just start time travel with when the device is invented, and then after going back you alter events to different outcomes completely rewriting events.

>>16889331

>gravity gloves shooting objects

Would be great if you could pull shit and throw it at a higher velocity not as powerful as the gravity gun but still effective.

>>16889356

I'll say this again: the citadel was supposed to have fallen finished from space. This was cannon up until this retconning crap.

>>16889362

So you're saying 4chan is better?

>>16889382

>This was cannon up until this retconning crap.

probably not considering the beta had the Citadel being partly made from human materials.

>>16889383

The story blatantly changed, especially from the 2001 era tile citadel.

2001 still had gas masks for fucks sake; the citadel is one of the few areas with what seems to be 2001 era skyboxes in the leak as well, just showing how little was done on it from that period.

Which is why the final is kinda eh and basically had all its gameplay shifted to episode 1.seriously 2001 era had most of episode 1s areas for the citadel

>>16887295

>>16887307

>>16887287

>>16887267

>>16887369

I get why they did it in the game, but it just makes you wonder why time traveller couldn't prevent the problematic events in the first place.

>>16887390

>>16887415

>>16887519

He could get out if he wanted to, but he wanted Alyx to join him since her soul bonded with Gordon Freeman as of episode 1.

>>16887548

>>16887546

He wanted to exploit her love for her father. In the game, she rescues her father and it comes to waste since it's revealed that he died in the future. So, he states that you can prevent it by joining him.

>>16889089

>DBZ peaked in ratings/viewers right before Trunks was introduced.

Dragon Ball has been going downhill the moment they went into space.

>>16889089

>DBZ peaked in ratings/viewers right before Trunks was introduced. It was even worse in DBS.

Wrong nigger

DBZ's ratings in Japan peaked when Gohan went SS2 in the Cell arc. In the US, it peaked in September 2002 right in the middle of the Buu arc.

>>16888584

Boku no pico

>>16888689

>>16888717

>>16888732

>I'm too cool for le old internet maymays btw pls spoonfeed me on this thing I totally don't care about I promise I'm not a newfag!

Pathetic, newfag

Many people are judging this game based off of Youtube videos which is absurd. Watching a video of it is not even close to what it actually feels like to play the game in VR. Plus many people are pissed because they want a true HL3.

I just played it again for a few hours and it's honestly excellent. The best VR game I have played now. The only issue with it(and all VR games) is movement. Normies bitch about motion sickness and dev's aren't willing to take a risk so most games settle on that shit ass teleport movement which is awful and breaks immersion. HL Alyx and other games do have normal movement, but it's not nearly as good unless you have Valves new VR controller because they have analog sticks on them. It still works with my Vive controller but it's a bit clunky. The main issue is Alyx ""runs"" slow as fuck because the devs are so scared of people complaining about motion sickness.

To anyone that doesn't have VR, basically like 95% of people get motion sickness when they are playing a game and the character is moving while the player is standing still. That's why so many games use shit ass teleporting or real slow movement. The thing is anyone can easily get rid of the motion sickness if they just suck it up for like a single day. Play until you're feeling sick, take a 15 min break, play again, the body quickly adjusts. Normies ruining it for the rest of us. Just give us normal movement speed and 2 analog sticks on our VR controllers and we are set. Also stop charging 300$ for godam Valve VR controllers. I already dumped all this money on a Vive a year or 2 ago, I don't feel like paying hundreds more for a slightly better controller, but I want those damn joysticks. I can afford it, but it's a matter of principle, let us exchange old models or something, fucking greedy assholes.

>>16889456

>hurr durr you need to play the game to know its shit

>ignoring the godawful story

>implying you need to play this trash to see how bad the ending is

Fuck off Valve

>Normies

You want to know how it's obvious you're not from here?

>>16889472

kys hlnigger

>>16889509

Whoops, accidentally cut my reply for >>16889382 out. Was going to say that they likely retconned that because of autistic fags who think they're smart that would cry "B-but if it fell out of the sky the city would have been leveled to dust!"

>>16889509

Y'know. I fucking knew that VR was gonna be modded out eventually …but not this fast!

Can't believe Tyler is doing something of worth instead of talking crap for once.

>>16889500

Leave newfag nigger >>>/cuckchannel/

>>16889537

half life was never good.

>>16889541

Isn't H3 basically receiver VR with sausages?

>>16889550

I'm not sure Alyx has a sausage though.

>the game retcons episode 2 by stating that alyx can change the future if she wants to

>but this creates two gordon freemans and two eli vance.

>HL:Alyx's timeline is the one where gordon still has his hazard suit

>HL2 timeline is completely made up

>>16889567

>Computer monitors in the game use .webm files

They used to be real time. That's gay

>>16889456

I don't think the proportion is nearly that large. I'm not really susceptible to motion sickness, but I played Unreal Tournament 2004 of all fucking things using a renderer mod back when Oculus Rift was still in development. I was using keyboard and mouse, but the principle is still the same and I had no motion sickness. The real concern is staring at two monitors literally strapped to your face for more than a couple of hours.

>>16889005

see

>>16888938

>>16888941

there's plenty of reasons to shit on the game but this is hardly one of them

>>16889613

>I am this anally blasted about a passing comment on character graphics

Holy shit, calm down, Gabe. You can still get hemorrhoid cream from the store during quarantine. For the record, I think the art has been pretty bad since HL2. Even when HL2 was released, the environments all looked ugly to me, and the character design, despite being technically good with the animations, didn't sit well with me aesthetically (especially Alyx). And of course my teenage mind thought, "What the hell is bloom?" then immediately turned it off when I realized what it did.

>>16889567

wouldnt mind a thicky mossman tbh

>>16889603

Is that a different Freeman model? Because it looks way better than the one in >>16888919

>>16889677

It's the same, but this is viewed in Valve resource viewer and I assume the earlier screenshots were taken from Maya. Different rendering processes make it look different.

>>16889679

given the texture clipping on the maya one, I'd say the resource one is more close to home on what it should look like. Maya one is blatantly posing and causing some disfiguring.

>>16889672

>There are incomplete SFM files in the game of the Seven Hour War showing Striders laying siege to a city of error models and untextured humans

Ok THIS has me interested, link?

>>16889672

>Don't know much of the game she's recorded for but lines were played were from the first time you meet Russell and when you free the Vortiguant later in the game. So I assume most if not all.

God damn it, why change it then?

>>16889709

>God damn it, why change it then?

damned if you do, damned if you don't. Either choice would bother some pople at this point, so they probably chose whatever.

>>16889717

people*

>>16889717

fair enough

>>16889548

>implying half-life's quality is the argument and not you being a newfag who direct links to kiketube just point out the obvious

>>>/reddit/ may be more your speed them

>>16889710

Working doesn't mean actually finishing; leaks show that half life was lazily being worked on til 2013sh.

The dumb DOG scavenger hunts.its really funny how hacky the maps are.

>>16889739

I meant 2016, i'm pretty sure whoops.

>>>/v/16889773

>>>/4um/

>>16887715

YOU WILL BE REPORTED TO THE CYBER-PROTECTION AND THE CIVIL-PROTECTION!

>>16889756

The headcrab's general model looks great, but the underbelly teeth are completely untextured and the belly itself looks like jelly. The modeling detail on that model is great but it seems unfinished because of the lack of texture work.

>>16889785

Komm Susser todd

>>16889454

Do what you believe, you sperging faggot.

Honestly I don't know why Valve cut 2 handed weapons.

They work just fine in Pavlov VR.

>>16889839

Probably the same reason they didn't add melee, feedback is a larger deal to them for some god forsaken reason.

>>16887325

It'll be the name of a mission, probably the first/main one.

>>16887456

>voice actress is meh

>Headsetfag LARPing movements

I hate people.

Seeing this actually makes me not want to see any more, they should have just left it alone or done 3 it when it was relevant, it's just going to be mediocre and that'll burn harder than it being outright shit.

>>16887518

>He didn't pick up the Crowbar™ because it's some signature weapon

It totally is though, if you were tasked with drawing Freeman you'd do a beard, glasses crowbar, lambda.

>>16889886

Maybe Valve is going to make haptic feedback controllers before Half Life 3. Because they can't make a Half Life game where you play as Gordon and not have the crowbar.

>>16888605

>>16888584

leave plz

>>16888919

>Gordon Soyman and his tranny nigger bff.

This looks like an SJW production if ever I saw one, only thing missing is her having a full afro and pulling some 'sassy' pose shit.