901929 No.16866129[Last 50 Posts]
I could have sworn there was one up already. Anyone get back into the game now that the patch/expansion is out?
>play for a while
>bugs come tunneling into my world
>pft, my guys are all geared up by now, I can take 'em
<I couldn't take 'em
On the bright side I only lost one guy since I had just got two recruits that stayed out of combat and were able to rescue everyone. I wouldn't have lost even the one guy except he collapsed before reaching the hospital and I didn't notice until he had less than an hour left to live.
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e92d58 No.16866321
Still waiting for Rimjobworld and moremonstergirls to update.
Anything good that came with 1.1 and the expansion?
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f54189 No.16866371
I sometimes play but the more I play the more I realize that even when modded to the point of breaking the entire game is such a disappointment.
>No hydraulic engineering, at all, ever, for any reason
>Maps make no sense and are just thrown together with no consideration for how things actually grow or the effects of landscape on the same
>An oak that's been growing for god knows how many centuries before your colony came along is the same size as a tree that matured in a year and drops the same amount of wood and of the same quality
>Farming is incredibly half-assed - no seed-saving or exchanges (how the fuck does research magically unlock crops like that?), no special grow conditions, no transplanting, no crop rotation, no planting considerations, no tunnels or greenhouses, no breeding, etc.
>Defense is either vague, slow and frustrating (vanilla) or autistic micro (modded) with a heap of bullshit on top either way and ALWAYS becomes boring as shit eventually because of the lack of Z-levels, vehicles, terrain and basically any enemy attack plan that isn't either "run directly at your base", "mortar your base" or "drop pods"
>Lack of Z-levels completely hobbles every game mechanic from [the lack of] hydraulic engineering to defense to social interactions and back again
>Tech trees are beyond retarded, especially the fact that you can go from living in a hut to building flatscreen TVs to building starships inside of a year if your research gimp sits at their desk enough. On that same note, How the FUCK can you build a starship without figuring out heavier-than-air flight, much less land vehicles? I'm not about to ride a fucking pack animal and eat pemmican for two weeks when an aircraft can get me to my destination in two hours
>Storage and item management is a head-scratcher as well; two shirts take up the same amount of storage space as an entire dresser
>People don't give a shit about what they eat; you can spend five years eating nothing except rice and nobody will complain.
>There is no aesthetic distinction whatsoever between colonists unless you have an ascetic present; everyone likes exactly the same kind of art and decoration and whatever and has aneurysms over anyone tracking in dirt despite the fact that nobody apparently knows how to wipe their feet
>Even with a dozen people running around there's no designated leader or administrative body
>I can build power armor, FTL drives and glitterworld medicine but apparently insecticide remains a mystery
>No fishing, boats or aquatic resources or foodstuffs of any kind.
The fucking list just goes on and on. I have it installed so I jump in every now and again but I get frustrated when I have ideas that I can't do and quit out of boredom.
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2e6b0f No.16866381
>>16866371
You're not wrong. Every sandbox style game will have limits though, and I appreciate Rimworld for what it does and is, which is basically a single z level DF with a UI and graphics with a sci-fi aesthetic. I hadn't thought about flight much before your post, it's disappointing there hasn't ever been a decent mod to mimic that, or land travel/war vehicles.
I'm curious now with your limitations on suspension of disbelief what games work for you? People have told me my own requirements for a world to work on its own rules are too strict and I'd like to know what someone with even stricter requirements plays.
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76c517 No.16866429
>>16866321
I believe a few monster girl mods had been updated. I've been waiting for a few mods to upgrade to 1.1 and replaced others. Not having the woohooer mod also hurts me.
Is the rimjobworld mod still being worked on?
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e92d58 No.16866442
Uploaded both the linux and winblows 1.1 version to the vg vola.
Only the base game though.
>>16866429
>Is RJW still being worked on.
Seems like it, for some reason its in alpha for 1.1.
Also found the 1.1 version monstergirl mod on steam workshop
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901929 No.16866802
>>16866371
Yeah no z-levels is disappointing, but then again we're talking about stranded humans here, not cave loving dwarves. You should at least be able to build a few levels up though.
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76c517 No.16866806
>>16866802
Maybe a sequel might include z levels.
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901929 No.16866812
>>16866806
They could even include it in an update. People sometimes forget that Dwarf Fortress originally didn't have z-levels.
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76c517 No.16866821
>>16866812
Well, it depends how does the game code works.
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6b3963 No.16866903
I got it when it was still in beta but never really got into it, after the 1.1 update I've been playing a lot though I haven't got the expansion yet.
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901929 No.16867039
I did a lot better against this ancient machine hive than against those fucking bugs. Worst that happened is someone lost their arm, no big deal I'll give him a better one.
And damn these centipedes can really take a beating huh.
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8e217c No.16867115
>>16866129
I was thinking of getting the GoG version, do steamworkshop mod authors upload to sites other than steam?
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f54189 No.16867131
>>16866381
>I'm curious now with your limitations on suspension of disbelief what games work for you?
I haven't found anything that really scratches the colony-building itch, unfortunately. It's not about suspension of disbelief, it's about not really being able to manage a damn thing - no utilities, no water, no landscaping, gaping blind spots in your technology, the combat is ass and the closest you come to actual planning is idly wondering whether you have enough cotton and rice to stay clothed and fed through the winter. The nearest thing to a diplomacy mechanic or a system of sub-goals is petty requests from the other faggots on your planet and visitors being impressed that your dinner table is made of marble.
>People have told me my own requirements for a world to work on its own rules are too strict and I'd like to know what someone with even stricter requirements plays.
Literal autism aside, the reason I don't really enjoy Rimworld that much is because I was after what it says on the tin but the game doesn't deliver - I expect a """colony sim""" to actually deliver somewhat on the "sim" aspect and Rimworld fails miserably in that regard. I'm not expecting a complete simulation or anything but it doesn't even compare to Dorf Fort and DF is a sim only in the loosest sense of the word.
>>16866802
Mining isn't the only thing that Z-levels are good for. Maybe I want to build my base into the side of a mountain for the sake of defense and have a series of terraced greenhouses for farming. Maybe I want to cut the top of the mountain off and build my ship there so raider niggers can't get to it. Maybe I want my settlement to be an ewok village up in the trees. Maybe I just want to be able to make a really, really tall wall around my settlement.
>>16867115
Pretty much all of the mods are available on the developer's forum. No login or anything needed and the mods are easy to install; just download, extract and then drag-and-drop into the mods folder
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901929 No.16867161
>>16867039
>no big deal
Turns out it kinda was a big deal, because that was one of my doctors and shortly after some raiders with grenades came along and blew my other doctor's arm off (along with multiple other colonist limbs). So I had to deal with two one armed doctors until I managed to get them to succeed on grafting a bionic arm to each other.
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451160 No.16867227
>>16867161
>two one armed doctors
At least together they were a full doctor.
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0f08ed No.16867236
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3a7acd No.16867450
>>16866442
>Uploaded both the linux and winblows 1.1 version to the vg vola.
>Only the base game though.
Thanks, hadn't played since alpha 18.
>>16867131
>I expect a """colony sim"""
>and DF is a sim only in the loosest sense of the word.
Aren't rimworld and df 'story generators'?
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b1bf6c No.16867839
exept digging down and up, what differences are between rimworld and DF?
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901929 No.16867936
Is this cyber dick implant a new thing?
>>16867839
It is more playable but less complex. Your population is a lot smaller so you get more attached to individual colonists. You start with 1, 3, or 5 depending on your starting conditions, and you get more mainly from capturing injured attackers and convincing them to join. Also you can send out your own trading caravans rather than just wait for them to come to you (dunno if they added that to DF yet).
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715bc3 No.16867953
>>16866321
I never would have imagined this was a thing, I just became interested in this game again. I looked it up and noticed Loverslab has it's usual anti-loli stance even though they have the absolute most degenerate mods available.
What's the current status of this mod? Is it fap worthy or still WIP?
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bb3770 No.16867956
>>16867936
Never seen anything like that before. Isn't there something new with the attraction system, so maybe that's connected to it.
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bb0e40 No.16867957
>>16867839
The biggest difference is that DF pretty much plays itself once you hit a certain threshold, whereas Rimworld tries to throw a major crisis at you whenever it detects you're getting too comfortable. Rimworld is also a lot more micro-oriented, and has an actual win condition.
>>16867953
Not really fap-worthy, but definitely fun.
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901929 No.16868027
>>16867956
>Isn't there something new with the attraction system
Not that I have noticed.
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605e9b No.16868484
>>16867936
>Is this cyber dick implant a new thing?
Yes.
It's part of new Royality DLC.
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e92d58 No.16868489
>>16867953
>fap worthy
Not really.Gets me in the mood to fap to doujins and thats it. Sims 3 with the woohooer mod is more up your alley for fapping.
The fun from RJW comes from how well it plays with the game mechanics and more ways to use your prisoners is not a bad thing.You can attach a cyberdick to your female pawns to turn into futas.
I remember one time after a raid a caravan came for a visit and there was a downed female raider my colony didn't clean up, the poor raider girl was instantly rushed by the entire caravan group including the pack animals from across the map just to tag-team rape her.There was so much cum on the floor
It was wild and magical.
Never got to trade with the caravan though
>Still WIP
It was very finished during 1.0 version. No idea what happened to the mod to turn it into alpha for 1.1.
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ad4ef1 No.16868494
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3a7acd No.16868499
>2seasons to recruit
i'm starting to reconsider my recruit everyone policy
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76c517 No.16868502
>>16868484
Birds and Bees did it before.
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f54189 No.16868504
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901929 No.16868515
>>16868499
>recruit everyone policy
But why? Some people are just dead weight.
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76c517 No.16868517
>>16868515
I just turn them into animals with the pawnmorpher mod after enslaving them, to have fully trained animals. Mostly because with the lovecraftian mods discontinued and prison labour not being updated yet it's useless to have prisoners.
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3a7acd No.16868552
>>16868515
fun
>>16868504
and depression quest is a 'game'
df and rimworld are set apart from management sims because they're story generators first
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c4603e No.16868554
>>16868515
If you have a low amount of pawns it's sometimes worth taking on dead weight to use as haulers/cleaners. I usually class pawns by their skills and background. If they have a useful skill I need like a grower, and not incapable of hauling or cleaning I usually try to recruit them.
If you have at least a minimum of 5 or so pawns you can banish or arrest and let the shitty ones escape.
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c4603e No.16868555
>>16868517
You should heal and release prisoners, most give faction rep and you should always give them peg legs to cripple future raids.
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901929 No.16868579
>>16868555
>and you should always give them peg legs to cripple future raids
Does that create a mood debuff like harvesting organs does?
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f54189 No.16868619
>>16868552
>df and rimworld are set apart from management sims because they're story generators first
Rimworld's self-ascribed tagline (featured front and center on their kikestarter, Steam page, the official website, etc.) is "a sci-fi colony sim", as is clearly evidenced in my earlier post. I went into the game expecting an experience of that general description and didn't get it.
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357163 No.16868645
>>16866129
How well does that HVAC room work to heat and cool your colonists' bedrooms?
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901929 No.16868947
>>16868645
Well it's obviously more efficient than having one for each room. Though now that I think about it I could have just put vents in the walls separating the rooms.
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7a5c4b No.16868962
anyone got a torrent or anything of the newest version and dlc?
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0f08ed No.16869017
>>16868619
And Borderlands 3 is labeled as a looter shooter, but when I pirated it, all I got was a "loading-screen cringe sim".
I went into the game expecting an experience of that general description and didn't get it.
Sarcasm aside: catch-all terms like "roguelike" and "colony-sim" are good to get a general idea of what you DO in the game, not what the game itself does.
The Anno series could be labeled as a "strategic colony simulator". You could also apply the same labels to the Tropico series.
This happens because the mechanism available for the player to interact with the gameworld are very similar:
>place buildings
>prioritize resources
>establish trade routes
And yet, if you went into a Tropico game expecting a Caribean themed Anno, you'd be quite disapointed. Or if you wanted to play a mustche twirling dictator in the phillipines, Anno would not be very good at it.
tl,dr: You're the kind of person a marketing department loves because you make their job easier.
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0f08ed No.16869027
>>16868947
One thing I usually do is put my "Brewing" room in the middle of the living quarters.
You need heaters and coolers to keep the temperature stable on that anyway, and you can use that to pass the stable temperature air into their rooms.
Works best if you further isolate the rooms.
Meaning airlocks (take longer to enter and exit, but they only do it twice a day) or put it inside a big building, so the heat transfers to adjacent rooms, not the outside.
Or you double-wall the whole thing.
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0f08ed No.16869238
>>16869017
You could also point to FPS as a genre, where it doesn't really describe much, Thief and DOOM are both FPS and that doesn't mean anything as far as an hard definition of them goes.
Rimworld can very well describe itself as "a sci-fi colony sim" and it's not wrong, because that's an accurate description of the gameplay, it's just not the whole deal.
I actually like the dev's idea about failure not being the end of the game and instead have consequences that you have to deal with. Management games that work in a more classical aproach end up being some autistic nightmare where you try to perfect your meta as much as possible and any failure is solved with a reset, learning from your mistakes to do perfect runs in the future. It's nothing but endless trial and error until you understand the game mechanics enough to make sure you never lose and the game is built around this since losing means the end of the game.
Reminds me of some RPG threads where people were talking about how neat it'd be if the story could continue even if the hero fails, you just get a different story about how everything is going to shit.
I think Chrono Trigger was one of the few games that even included an alternative ending like that.
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12d4aa No.16869247
Rooms that need to be heated:
Greenhouse
Workshops
Bedrooms
Hospital
>>16868579
No it's the same as installing a bionic, you aren't harvesting an organ. You don't get a leg out of it unless you install certain overpowered mods.
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12d4aa No.16869252
Sidenote installing a peg leg then uninstalling it is the same as amputating a prisoner's legs. They can't run away if they can't even stand up.
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901929 No.16869301
>>16869247
>>16869252
Can you do the same thing with wooden hands?
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482583 No.16869358
Needless griping for a game that isn't there aside, anybody ever tried roleplaying in this game? It's actually fucking amazing when you slap mods atop the game for that as well, but even vanilla works fine for that.
I like to make my coworkers and various people I know in general through the prepare carefully mod, and I unironically have the most amazing playthroughs that easily make this game 11/10. The game succeeds in what's only mentioned in the about section, which is being a story generator. If you try to play it like it's Age of Empires, you're going to have a bad time and that's nobody's fault but you and your expectations.
Gonna update you on current playthrough with coworkers if anybody's interested, keep thread alive, game's incredible.
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482583 No.16869365
>coworkers still get more sex than I do even in fiction
pic unrelated i just like art
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e8e7fb No.16869366
>>16869365
>monet
you don't like art, you like things you can hang 30 feet away and think "hey not bad"
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482583 No.16869373
>>16869366
Isn't that what we all do, anon?
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f54189 No.16869466
>>16869017
I'm aware that the term "sim" has considerable breadth even with further qualification; my gripe is that Rimworld's "sim" elements are like duplo blocks while the term is generally understood to mean something on the level of "erector set". I don't expect something like Anno or SimCity from a game where ~12 NPCs is considered a large settlement, but given that it's advertised as a sim I DO expect to have at least some simulationist elements. There is no excuse for how brain-dead basic elements like farming, defense, infrastructure management and base construction are in a game that supposedly revolves around those things.
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901929 No.16869471
>>16869466
Speaking of which, I came across this tooltip today which supports the "it's mainly a story generator" argument.
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5fed14 No.16869551
>>16866129
>I could have sworn there was one up already. Anyone get back into the game now that the patch/expansion is out?
Rimworld is my most played game on steam, but I'm waiting for the price drop because $20 for an expansion that's basically equivalent to just a few mods isn't worth it. But upon sale I'll jump back in, hopefully everything will be patched and fixed and updated by then.
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901929 No.16869552
>>16869551
I was gonna wait for a sale, but I felt like playing again and didn't want to miss out on the new stuff. It's a good game so I don't mind throwing the dev a few extra bucks.
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0f08ed No.16869605
>>16869551
I personally bought it full price. But I consider it a donation to Tynan.
Honestly, for people who aren't that much into Rimworld, yeah, wait for a sale. Or don't buy it at all, it is after all just a very large mod.
>>16869466
>the term is generally understood to mean [X]
Now that's an expression I've heard hundreds of times. Not just for vidya too.
"Generally understood" usually translates to "I've heard it like this".
Is the Sims a simulation game? Yes it is. Extremly shallow, but it is.
Is Rimworld a simulation game? Yes it is.
It simulates mood, health and a basic economy to go with those two, and that's all it needs to. Could it have more? No argument there: there's a truckload of things you could expand on. But if you start placing greater focus on the economical simulation, the social simulation loses focus aswell. And that side of the game is the one thing that sets it apart from other games in the same genre. It might also be the main reason people pick it up to play.
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76c517 No.16869762
>>16869605
Question, but is there a mod that includes a trait that makes your pawn care little to nothing about raw meat or eating from corpses?
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3a7acd No.16869766
finally recruited those two prisoners
Veronica is the ugly psycho pyro jailbird who fell out of the sky. Multiple prison break attempts, and her obviously superior fighting ability, resulted in her right leg blown off by a shitty shotgun. Her time in prison was spent smacking down a naked old woman who constantly went mad from not having booze. Veronica's first job was to tame a sizeable herd of muffalo, leaving her a bloody, bruised, broken, bitten wailing mess on the horizon. Being armed with the same shitty shotgun that blew her leg off didn't help. The other colonists survived the maddened herd, in large thanks to the peculiar self-tamed Megasloth slashing and biting out their necks and bodies. After much time healing up back in her former prison, Veronica tamed several animals with rather questionable methods. Everyone seems to hate her.
Ibis, former tribal raider, was a useless naked granny always having a mood until she finally got over her alcohol addiction and became top marksman. I'll have her hunt everything I won't tame, but at the rate she's stacking corpses I'll need a bigger freezer soon.
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be178c No.16869783
>>16868489
>No idea what happened to the mod to turn it into alpha for 1.1.
Main game and Harmony library update broke almost all mods.
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901929 No.16869847
>>16869766
>I'll have her hunt everything I won't tame, but at the rate she's stacking corpses I'll need a bigger freezer soon.
I had the same problem with my hunter. He can't even haul or clean so he's just constantly hunting and taming. The problem went away when I switched to lavish meals to burn through all my ingredients though.
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a7a85d No.16870307
>>16868555
There is no reason to show mercy to pirates. They don't bump up relations with you for any reason, so if you heal them you're probably just going to see that same pawn come and try to kill you again. Better to just gas them or feed them to animals.
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716bad No.16870340
>>16869766
Btw horses are overpowered. They're easy to tame and they can be trained to haul (which is also easy). I've got 4 Mares that just haul everything in my base.
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901929 No.16870357
>>16870340
I don't even let animals in my base except for cats. They stay outside in their own area, I don't need filthy animals making a mess everywhere.
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901929 No.16870635
>>16868645
Actually now I would avoid it, as it seems to attract bugs.
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cbd9b3 No.16870663
>>16870635
>bugs
Man, what a great no-fun-allowed feature. I guess enemies can use Z-level shenanigans as they please.
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3a7acd No.16870805
i didn't know pawns could bite
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1b2ffb No.16870820
>>16870805
>a bitch talks shit and gets hit
Cool.
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901929 No.16870823
>>16870805
Didn't you see the new implant? Also I finally tamed a thrumbo after constantly beating it half to death and then healing it.
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0f08ed No.16871299
>>16870823
You should deploy your battle-thrumbo and tell us how it goes.
Need mod sugestion: I was quite happy when I first played this game some years ago and all animals were reasonably alien, while drawing inspiration from normal animals. They also served unique functions.
>Boomalopes and boom rats -> Neutramine production
>Muffallos -> textile
>warg -> Predators
Yes, wargs are LotR, but still alien enough for the setting.
It kinda disapointed me when the rest is normal "chickens" and "Rhinocerous".
IS there mod that at least removes this sort of "vannilla" animals? Not looking to add more, unless they're reasonably alien aswell and complement the setting.
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325a1a No.16871694
>>16871299
>IS there mod that at least removes this sort of "vannilla" animals?
Unfortunately, no.
I guess you can try out Genetic Rim at least.
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a7a85d No.16871971
>>16871299
There's no mod but doing it yourself is trivially simple. Just go to Rimworld/Data/Core/Defs/ThingDefs_Races and either comment out or delete all the entries you don't like. Obviously you should back them up somewhere else, but if you do that they won't appear in the game. You might get some debug log spam but it shouldn't actually hurt anything.
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0cb8e8 No.16871975
>>16871299
The reason they're in a rimworld is because the AI attempting to populate rimworlds seeds them with basic life so humans that end up there can survive off of them.
That's my headcanon anyway
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3a7acd No.16872169
usually played on hardest difficulty, and usually died before getting anywhere, but coming back i went for a notch down. surprised how lax it is
>>16870823
>dlc only
fug
last time i fucked with a thrumbo it killed 4, chased the last survivor around a building, into the building, around the table, and got stuck in the building
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901929 No.16872206
>>16872169
>last time i fucked with a thrumbo it killed 4, chased the last survivor around a building, into the building, around the table, and got stuck in the building
You really need to team up on it with good weapons so you can down it before it even gets to you. Their leather is the second best material for clothing behind hyperweave so it's worth killing them every time they show up.
Now the game keeps throwing random shitty weather and events at me. Is this punishment for playing mad scientist on some pirate fag?
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6e377f No.16872639
>>16868552
No, DF is a management sim.
Management sims tend to make good stories.
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cb6717 No.16872725
I got no screenshots from the latest version but I do have some good old ones. More often than naught some not intended mod interaction behavior.
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23a46e No.16872818
>>16872725
>THAT much room wasted on animals
Just jam them right next to each other without a cooler or heater. They'll keep each other warm in the winter and you can just hold the doors open in the summer.
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901929 No.16873267
This fucking pirate had a triple rocket launcher. Good thing my guys are so well armored, I only lost a pinky to it.
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901929 No.16873480
>>16873267
And then a couple of days later another group comes with a doomsday rocket launcher. I think Cassandra is tired and just wants me dead at this point.
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ea7d63 No.16873649
>>16872818
>jam them right next to one another
carefull with that, i had a spontaneous combustion of about 120+ muffalos/dogs/wargs/bears once because of that as i packed them in a small room during a raid.
temperature is pretty darn stupid in this game.
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0f08ed No.16874858
>>16873649
>Jam 120 muffaloos inside a tiny building
>they simply burst into flames
Fucking amazing.
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5c0497 No.16874960
>>16866442
>Uploaded both the linux and winblows 1.1 version to the vg vola.
Shit, I missed it, does anyone mind reuploading?
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901929 No.16875004
>>16874960
Would uploading the Steam version work or does it have DRM?
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bb0e40 No.16875025
>>16875004
The Steam version should still be DRM-free.
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901929 No.16875043
>>16875025
What is the link to the vola, I will upload the latest version and Royalty.
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bb0e40 No.16875075
>>16875043
volafile.org/r/vg
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901929 No.16875080
>>16875075
ok I uploaded it.
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483e64 No.16875099
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5c0497 No.16875105
>>16875080
B-b-but what will I do without my steam stats?
Thanks anon, you're a cool guy.
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e92d58 No.16875136
>>16875080
Thanks for picking up my slack and for the expansion
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ea7d63 No.16875173
>>16874858
best part still was the corpse explosion, through the walls.
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3a7acd No.16875228
was looking forward to milking my muffalos, but, no, it wasn't meant to be. no alien cow milk for me
thinking back, it would've been nice if i got a message when my alcoholic got over her withdrawal
>>16872725
>space fish
that's pretty cool
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76c517 No.16875490
>>16875228
You want alien like milk? get the geneticrim mod and the cthulhu mods and patches. You can get actual milk that make you see beyond the veil.
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aed3ae No.16875505
>this new update
I don't seem to be understanding some of these quests. The ones where they send mechanoids to you, the bases and items are completely invincible. Am I supposed to be able to destroy them? How do I do it? I had an invincible psychic drone once so I just erased it from the map, because fuck a permanent -30 debuff.
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aed3ae No.16875510
>>16873649
That sounds wonderful. Perfect way to maintain a steady supply of fur (therefore clothes and furniture), milk, and meat while not overpopulating. Just reach the spontaneous combustion point, have a few of them die from that, and then butcher them. Eventually your population grows back to the combustion point and you get more meat.
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79c7b0 No.16875605
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76c517 No.16875617
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0f08ed No.16875678
>>16875505
They're meant more like Puzzles than actual fights.
What used to happen:
>giant can of soda falls on your backyard
>starts spilling nasty shit
>if you attack it, bugs come out
Right now, those quests will deploy a full base of nasties that works like a dungeon: you'll have to explore it, proceed through it, shoot things on sight, disable power sources and power down the whole thing.
Tips: do you see cables? Shoot them. Usually disables some stuff. Batteries? Shoot/reclaim them. Power sources? Dismantle it.
Personal recomendation: keep 2 EMP grenades in your base at all times. When one of those things drop on your lawn, the EMP will usually make it a cakewalk.
Then again, each one is suposed to be diferent and "unique" so some are harder than others.
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dc1d3d No.16875715
>>16873649
>>16875510
>automated self-combusting fur/meat/milk factory
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716bad No.16876878
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901929 No.16876902
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5c0497 No.16877014
>Start colony in the jungle, get basic shit set up
>Foolishly have my animal guy try to tame a herd of elephants
>First one gets tamed, but the second retaliates
>I have two colonists with zero shooting skill and one with a knife
>The elephant reks them, everyone downed
>Based Randy spawns a Man in Black. Can he save the colony?
>No, he's incapable of doctoring. All three original colonists die of their wounds
>MiB takes over their wooden shacks to eke out a living
>He doesn't have the skill to make anything new so he spends his days hunting and farming for food
>A wildman wanders in and MiB tames him
>Things are looking up!
>Nope, wildman gets the flu and since MiB won't heal him he eventually dies of it
>Meanwhile MiB has trained the tame elephant into a guard animal and uses it to fend off several small raids and manhunter animals
>A couple of escape pods crash but MiB again leaves them to die
>A monkey self-tames but gets eaten by a cobra almost immediately
>MiB gets fucked up by squirrels and a cassowary and spends two days on the verge of death before barely surviving
>A jungle nigger kills the dog
>Despite this, MiB has still managed to live quietly on his own without major incident for nearly a year
>Then the lightning storms start
>Everything is still made of wood because MiB hasn't had time to get to stonecutting
>Lightning strikes the disused crafting building and sets it on fire
>Did I mention MiB also won't fight fires?
>Don't mind too much since MiB doesn't need anything in that building
>But thanks to the dense vegetation the fire spreads to the storeroom
>The rain chooses this moment to stop so there's nothing to prevent the fire from destroying everything
>Once it's over the buildings are in rubble
>Despite this there was little of value lost in the stores and the bedrooms and freezer are still fine so MiB continues to have everything he needs
>Another crisis weathered by MiB's lack of need for anything
>Accidentally cause a roof collapse when taking down the remainder of the storeroom and kill MiB
wew
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87b8b1 No.16877077
>>16877014
MiB event is complete shitshow, which even doesn't work majority of time.
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f92833 No.16877160
Do I need to neuter both sexes for them to stop having sex with each other?
I had some male elves running a train on a female elf until everyone collapsed from exhaustion multiple times. I eventually just sold the male elves and kept the female for the fairy dust.
Also RIP in pepperoni to my current playthrough, the saves refuse to load.
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901929 No.16877225
>>16877077
My MiB is pretty good. He showed up during a heat wave in the beginning when all my colonists were dying of heat stroke since I hadn't set up any electricity yet.
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3a7acd No.16878552
are rimworld-clones a thing yet?
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d92b1f No.16878916
>>16877160
In case of animals you must use separate zones for males and females.
>>16878552
Not really.
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3a7acd No.16879046
>rescue wolf to tame
>tame wargs think i delivered them breakfast
also, why do peg legs heal?
>>16878916
>Not really.
searching "inspired by rimworld" results in a few things,postmortems of failed clones are fine too
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d92b1f No.16879145
>>16879046
>why do peg legs heal?
Game limitations, I guess.
>postmortems of failed clones are fine too
To be honest, I forgot all of them by now.
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5c0497 No.16880208
>27 t-shirts for two masterwork guns
There's a joke about dealing arms to third world coutries in there somewhere but I'm too lazy to find it. The best part is that as soon as I got them back to base a bunch of raiders spawned for me to test them on.
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db56c0 No.16886959
any one got the dlc for linux
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76c517 No.16899068
So, have any of you try the SafeJobWorld handholding mod? How close it is to actual Rimjobworld?
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532d1c No.16899120
Hey fags,Should i get the new DLC? does it worth it(theres some review on it about the additions just copy pasterino of some mods out there)
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11cf85 No.16899138
>>16875678
>you'll have to explore it, proceed through it, shoot things on sight, disable power sources and power down the whole thing.
My weapons do no damage to the mechanoids or their constructions. The only way I've been able to damage them is to use the debug menu or put someone on a mortar and take potshots for five fucking days in a row since they don't know how to aim. The mechanoids never attack, and nothing else works.
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50aea2 No.16899315
>>16899068
Yes x2.
>>16899120
Pirate it.
>theres some review on it about the additions just copy pasterino of some mods out there
Mainly because it is.
It's similar to two psychic power mods and empire faction content is just silly.
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76c517 No.16899330
>>16899315
I see. Is it compatible with the Birds and Bees and Children and School mods?
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76c517 No.16899340
>>16899315
>It's similar to two psychic power mods and empire faction content is just silly.
But it kinda works well with other mods that works with the nobility system.
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de09da No.16899381
What engine does the game run on, what is the performance like?
I've been wanting to try it for a while, but the art style has also turned me away, it looks like one of those indie games with "safe" vector graphics
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76c517 No.16899452
>>16899381
Whatever Game Maker uses. It's the closest you could get to play an actual playable Dwarf Fortress.
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50aea2 No.16899455
>>16899330
I don't know, as I never used these two.
>>16899381
I think it's C# unity.
Also there should be over dozen of texture mods.
Not sure if they were updated to 1.1 though.
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76c517 No.16900166
So… any idea which mods are incompatible with RimJobWorld? my pawns are infertile.
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590376 No.16900308
Any mods to help repopulate hostile human factions in any way? Figured that may also help lessen the amount of mech encounters, showing up at higher and higher frequencies at my bunker.
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bc53c2 No.16900839
Why have I never heard about farming insects before? I had an infestation pop up in a prison I was making and since it was already well fortified I decided to just roll with it instead of purging them like usual and its amazing so long as you don't let it get out of control. An endless supply of jelly thats pre-cooked food that totally eliminates the need for recreation and makes for a great trade item and so much insect meat to make chemfuel out of that most of the bodies rot before I can even get to them which is perfect for the consistent power setups I like to use to avoid annoying zzzt events that batteries create.
Maybe its because I cheesed it with the android mod funneling them one by one into a corridor and all the scarabs that can move through the other insects in the corridor being incapacitated by the cold allowed me to handle it where in normal circumstances you wouldn't be able to but it was a pleasant change to the typical chicken army I use for an endless food supply.
>>16900308
Take all the expensive shit you own and burn it in a bonfire so the game will send you 3 tribesman with wooden clubs again, works like a charm.
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7a5c4b No.16900847
>>16875080
is Royalty included in the one zip or did i miss it?
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8e1a8e No.16909257
What do with all this loot i got early game? The ultra steel alone is worth 22K I haven't even done any research yet.
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8e1a8e No.16909434
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6c41a4 No.16909498
>>16909434
Mods don't really factor in when you're looking to keep things balanced, anon.
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8e1a8e No.16909515
>>16909498
Ah well it's not the mods that gave me a bunch of wealth. I just robbed a caravan who happened to carry alot of goods. I thought that having alot of wealth was actually a curse because my next raid would be a trillion men while I'm in the hobo phase.
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590376 No.16915853
Went around looking for mods that add more tribes and just started using Trading Economy. Liking it so far with a wide variety of tradings factions to interact with, some hostile, some neutral. Ideally, I"d prefer just a few more hostiles, just hope I can stop being such a friends-with-everybody faggot long enough, and arrange a few 'unexpected incidents'. Even if it doesn't really balance mech rates and just ends up backlogging or spawning simultaneous raids, still nice to actually expect something else for a change. And different groups nuking each other, while I sit and "let them fight", could be interesting. Just too bad this vehicles shit with Economy seems janky as hell.
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61b66b No.16916861
What essential mods were there again? I know there were some that were junk cleaners and a few QoL ones..
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61b66b No.16916918
I'm just winging it with this list so far.
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61b66b No.16918048
Shit sure gets weird when you end up with a Dr. Doolittle type.
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5fab30 No.16918237
Why play this over something like Gnomoria?
Gnomoria not only has z-levels like dwarf fortress, it can also be modded (xml files).
I don't really know how rimworld is modded because all I could find under community guides was posts on how to use specific mods or organize mods.
Biggest difference is gnomoria doesn't use a top-down perspective.
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590376 No.16918432
>>16918237
Was just thinking the other day, how convention having a basement would be. And when you imagine bunkers, always one place comes to mind.
Now if I can colonize a rock with better aras, christmas cakes or tomboys, I'm sold.
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590376 No.16918462
>>16918432
>convenient
goddamn auto-correct.
But with mods, was only ever into the cosmetic aspect of things until more recently. So can't really say much other then how I'm kinda reminded of the mods I used when I played The Sims, which is kinda funny.
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61b66b No.16918792
>>16918237
I really don't like working with z-levels in isometric view. I like Stonesense as a visualizer for DF though.
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590376 No.16921985
Any mods to medically arrest pawns for having psychotic breaks in the middle of treatment?
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5754c6 No.16921995
>>16921985
that's a fucking brilliant idea.
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5fab30 No.16922218
>>16921985
I think depending on the psychotic break you already can (or try to) arrest them. I've had colonists go apeshit and start attacking prisoners and sent others to arrest them, only for it to end with the other colonists getting badly wounded as well. It's such a pain in the ass how stupid these colonists are, and when they get stressed they're even more stupid, like hunters doing nothing but hunting, researchers never researching, blood, dirt and vomit never getting cleaned up which only makes their moods worse, etc etc.
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08c66e No.16922235
>>16921985
Snap out of it has a chance to calm them down as soon as the break starts. Other than that I found steel maces (playing with CE) very persuasive. Combine both for a sort of sheriff role.
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8f725b No.16922318
Is it possible to pirate just the DLC?
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61b66b No.16922333
>>16922318
The GOG version available around with it included as a patch is under 200 MB.
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756861 No.16922335
Playing with RJW is fucking hilarious.
>start new game
>crash landing with 5 pawns, use terrain management mod to make mountain fortress
>tile has caves
>almost all caves have hives
>first raid shows up 10 minutes in, one male pawn
>goes to fight a group of spiders for no reason
>gets downed in less than one second
>anally raped and impregnated by spider
>dies shortly after
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590376 No.16922531
>>16922218
>>16922235
Tried arresting, just to snap out, no effect on the state she was in. .Sure, I could just toss her in a prison bed and treat her there, but then theres the pain of recruiting her all over again.
Instead nab, forcibly sedate and chain their ass to a hospital bed, huge time saver.
>CE
Yeah, the realism mod where you can just down a bitch in one blow, too bad got no extra room for all that ammo. Still shame you just can't like, tranquilize or "stun" shock colonists or prisoners only, without them chimping out on you, to spare you all that retarded melodrama.
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08c66e No.16922550
>>16922531
CE has incap rounds and beanbags for knocking out niggers. Other than that, theres a tazer mod which just straight incaps on a good shot.
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590376 No.16922763
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590376 No.16926497
>>16918048
What's the name of the mod that showcases chitchat? They say disturbing or off-the-wall shit sometimes and never catch most of it.
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457bf2 No.16926518
>>16926497
Interaction Bubbles
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f565af No.16926544
>>16922531
why do all your pawns look like faggots my dude
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590376 No.16926577
>>16926518
cool, be nice if they could zoom in more, but cool.
>>16926544
They are faggots, using a bunch of weeb mods and most the hair doesn't really seem gender specific, unless I edit them to seem more natural.
But Kawai facial stuff seriously needs to update their shit, since hats will end up eating certain hair styles. Also wish it gave the men better eyes, but kinda like how most of my enemies are basically just Tumblr now. So everything is super gay clusterfuck.
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590376 No.16928270
Using Polarisbloc, first time seeing one of these intact, after blowing up a mech ship, and the mod site doesn't explain very much.
What are the odds of installing one of these and just having psycho ships raining down all over my bunker?
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590376 No.16928316
Just another power cell variant
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590376 No.16932410
>2 year long mood debuff
Yet if I did the 'right thing' and let her bleed out in the middle of nowhere, her mom'd be a fleeting thought in about 2 weeks.
>thread's got more UIDs than entire site has PPH
Been a fun ride.
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a65b1e No.16933624
This game's EULA is shit, especially the "BEHAVIOUR" part. None of you actually bought it, right?
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701a3b No.16933663
>>16932410
I'd imagine the thought of your mother still being out there enslaved and having god knows what done to her on a daily basis would have a more consistent and long lasting impact on your emotions than just coming to terms with her death.
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590376 No.16933667
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590376 No.16933685
>>16933663
Funny thing is her mom is doing just fine, all decked out in high end gear and everything.
Is even well integrated into the Walkblem enforcer faction, that just came over to say hi.
Bitch literally passed right by her during her work, and still kvetching.
But really interesting how all the prisoners I launch into various factions, just simply become
naturalized members of those factions, no hard feelings or anything, even show up as guests
occasionally through Hospitality.
And if I start shit with them, the way they are now, I don't think I'd win.
If anything, I'm doing them a favor.
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590376 No.16933775
Relaxing sociably, just having a nice chat about vomit,
not even a day after her corpse obsession, my autistic repair girl
has another meltdown and beats my fat repairman within inches of his life
after he insults her family. At least it all works out for him, somehow.
Aside from also being "very neurotic", I pretty much got her almost permanently screwed up.
I either better get prepared for her more frequent outbursts or just shut her up inside a sleep casket
until her debuff is gone, cause I really hate the idea of installing a joywire in her brain.
Hate the idea of drugs too but think the best thing for now would be getting her medicated
on all the Ambrosia I got stocked, since there's no side effects. Guess chocolate works too.
Damn neuro spergs.
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590376 No.16934699
>sensory overload the illness
>not a really bad disease for masochists
>no masochists get it
Th-Thanks Randy
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590376 No.16935418
>start with 3 female colonists
>cycle through 29 colonists total
>21 more females and only 5 males
>game rng has bias towards males and larger female to male ratio
>recruited women are 3 villagers, 3 ancients, 10 were refugees, an incapacitated refugee, 2 transport pod crashers and 2 former hostiles
>recruited men are 3 former hostiles, one was a rare male refugee and a rarer captive prisoner
>literally has to make most men join through force
>male refugee suffered severe psychite addiction
>male refugee finds some on dead pursuers and dies of flake overdoes same day he's recused
>chemical fascination summed up in 2h
>not only does rng screw over males but also their romantic opportunities
>10+ in game years and only muster a meager 5 relationships total
>3 of them being with the same woman
>only the few males ever flirt
>omega female loners more in love with work and animals and flake
>no matter how often pawns are isolated together no sparks absolutely nothing
>women in colony so frigid unfriendly and emotionally barren, I accidentally a nunnery
>total random stranger prisoners after only 2 days and a single catcall "we need a bed to sleep together"
Dead board dead thread and all, but what is even the point of prisoners falling in love?
Didn't think it was even possible, then again, neither did I within my own colony.
Got the "no guilt" mod for selling pawns but is there any actual benefit in them staying together bonus wise?
Or do I actually have to wait for them to want to get fucking married too?
Though I'm curious to see a an actual wedding between prisoners is like.
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fb95dd No.16935621
should i play vanilla for a bit to get a feel for it or not even bother and just dive right into mods?
also what are the must-have mods? no lewds please
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f54189 No.16935630
>>16935621
>should i play vanilla for a bit to get a feel for it or not even bother and just dive right into mods?
It's always advisable to play vanilla first, especially since most of the mods add more complexity to the game.
>also what are the must-have mods?
The two big ones I use are Vegetable Garden and Bad Hygiene but I also use several important smaller mods, (the most important of which is Stack XL) and I also have one that gives me a type of wall I can shoot through (otherwise there is literally no provision whatsoever for building pillboxes), another one that gives me a couple more types of weapons and turrets, another one that adds new biomes, and so on.
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590376 No.16935716
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>>16935621
Same, definitely stick with vanilla until you get a better handle on things, which will better prep you for the crazier mods.
Was actually a bit reluctant to move on from vanilla after playing for half a year, since I preferred the simplicity.
But then wound up nuking one too many enemy spots, where almost every raid became mechanoids afterwards which made things repetitive pretty fast.
Decided to finally get back into the game after a while when an anon suggested "What the hack?!" and Polarisbloc, a more complex series of mods, to add some variety back in the game.
Both mods really compliment each other very well in terms of providing a more advanced security and a new working class with even harder to kill mechs you can hack that will sacrifice themselves to protect your colony as well as killing their own kind.
Essentially, fighting poison with poison now, but Polarisbloc does make things a bit more of a challenge at first but now I'm slowly getting past the point of just swiping tainted gear from the more advanced factions, the mod provides, and sacrificing large parts of my base with orbital beams and antigrains.
Another big mod, I'm still getting the hang of, is Trade Economy and Change Dresser, a smaller mod for storing cloths and customizing outfits but has a rather annoying overlap when drafting pawns.
Is hacking real deep inside mechs too lewd?
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590376 No.16936212
>Economy mod's Walkblem factions always leaving caravans behind cluttering up the place
>caravans so badly coded they remain stuck in exact same place they spawn and are practically invincible to destroy
>have to dev mode to clear them from map
>when *killed* is selected large inventory dumps spill out everywhere that's almost impossible to store so yet even more garbage piles onto map
>huge alcohol dump just abandoned on the edge of the map
>decided to wait/call other friendly factions to just buy it all off in portions at a time
>winter comes
>COLD SNAP
>all wildlife either starving or freezing to death
>*boomrat goes boom*
>all animals gathered around alcohol dumps out of desperation for subsistence literally drinking themselves stupid
At least they had the right idea for keeping warm but led to such an degree that I have to launch firefoam shells now.
>>16935621
But one must have mod, I forgot to mention, would also be the Removable Mt.Rock Roof Patche.
A simple mod that converts the thick overhead mountain into the thin constructed roof type.
Which I found great for setting up well protected solar panels from being exposed, while off base.
But maybe not so great if you got a bunker set inside a mountain which would offer less protection from drop down events.
Another draw back is that it also removes the event of insect infestations inside mountains (unless you're drilling), which can be threatening but also quite useful if you know how to farm them well.
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412ef0 No.16936257
>>16935716
>>16935630
>>16936212
thanks for the advice frens, im having a blast with the game so far. after a couple hilarious wipes due to my own idiocy i think i have a decent grasp on it.
>too lewd
the more i think about it and look at RJW the less averse i am to sexual mods. i guess what i usually envision with lewd mods is moronic shit like muh huge tiddy anime skyrim orc girl skins which are tedious at best.
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33b199 No.16936305
>>16935621
Allow Tool. Invaluable new functions for selection and orders.
Children & Pregnancy. Piggybacks on the in-game fucking system and does nothing except allow humans to get pregnant and give birth through it, meaning your colony can be self-sustaining (after, you know, nearly two decades when they grow to adulthood) as long as your people like each other enough to fuck.
Tilled Soil. Lets you build soil (from UNSMOOTHED rock, don’t smooth it) and thereafter rich soil by spending wood. Put your farms anywhere you like, and make them grow faster.
Hospitality. Guests come to visit. Build a communal guest room for them with beds and entertainment, charge them rent (or don’t), and they’ll reward you with random items if they liked their stay enough.
Stack XL. Because ten Hungry Man frozen dinners don’t take up two fucking cubic meters of space.
I have plenty more, but I can’t remember them off-hand. I like Megafauna, which adds extinct Pleistocene animals to the world. Tame them (almost impossible for predators, but if you can do it they’re better than thrumbos at defense), hunt them (fucking massive meat and leather hauls), whatever you like. It’s just more variety.
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441bc5 No.16936873
How do you dedicated builders make complex, planned bases/towns when you have to start from scratch and get a cheapo base with all the workings up and running right away? Do you just bulldoze the starter base once you get on your feet or what?
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c56259 No.16936893
>>16936873
Since most furniture and work benches can be uninstalled and reinstalled you can always move the rooms around to more appropriate places as you build out, this space station I'm working on with the save our ship mod is a good example of that.
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590376 No.16936945
>>16936873
I usually try to plan most things out in advance before I get all the right resources, mainly by using the planning tool in the orders menu to help map out any future designs to have in mind. After already memorizing other designs I probably aped from here, youtube or niconico videos.
Taking the placement of geothermal generators for example, I'll figure out how to set the colony to get the most use out of them before they're in place, to avoid overloading the grid. Then for protection, once it's all planned out, there's always just swapping out weaker structures for superior ones without really having to change much drastically.
And when it comes to accommodating more colonists, I'll just slowly expand on the preexisting structures little at a time. Most likely what I picked up from designing homes in elona I already have some picture long term set in mind, then work towards that and add on.
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f82639 No.16937493
>"Your colonist has given birth!"
>check newborn stats
>Age: 2 hours
>Breasts: Large
>mfw
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35ea7a No.16937496
>>16937493
Are they relatively large for her age, or just large fucking breasts on a newborn?
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26647f No.16937520
>>16937496
Anon's baby is in a toddlercon h-doujin.
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9b2766 No.16937547
>>16937493
The thought of large breasts being pulled out of a vagina is really strange and a little bit oddly erotic. I hate this.
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e29fc4 No.16937802
>>16937547
youre welcome anon.
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33b199 No.16937829
I recently read that a second expansion is in the works which will involve aliens. I have no idea how true this is and can’t find any information anywhere. The main premise of Royalty fell flat for me You DEMAND specific quality clothes, a specific quality bedroom, and a fucking throne room for yourself? And you suddenly refuse to do my menial labor? Oops, looks like you were accidentally harvested for organs; how did that happen?, but I like the periphery of what it added. Maybe a second DLFree would be good, too.
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33b199 No.16937830
>>16936893
Holy fuck, what mod? Does it model atmospheric pressure too?
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590376 No.16937838
>>16937829
>aliens
Hopefully it's not more cookiecutter this time around, if true.
>DLC more than half the price of original game
Too bloated of a price for what didn't really seem to offer much outside of what hadn't already been tried yet with other - and probably better - mods.
Had a rimworld thread going on Fatchan and almost got into an argument with an anon who seemed like a DLC shill just because I wasn't too thrilled with
the whole borrowing ideas from preexisting mods into the content bit. Sure, they didn't pull a total Notch, regarding custom content, but still not worth
getting kiked over for. Though I admit the quests part interests me quite a bit, maybe I'll wait for more Royalty mods before pirating.
That looks like Rimstation 13, be pretty rad to space travel after launching.
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d1a35a No.16937841
>>16937830
Read the post you fag, and yes it does any pawn without an eva suit thats not in a pressurized room with life support will die of hypoxia or hypothermia whichever comes first. Solar flares are a bitch because it knocks out your life support so you have to rush all your characters into eva suits before they suffocate.
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590376 No.16937848
>That looks like Rimstation 13, be pretty rad to space travel after launching.
meant for >>16936893
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d1a35a No.16937850
>>16937848
You can generate a new world and go to it with the mod, only problem is that beyond changing the average temperature theres not much reason to do it. You can see in the latest image that I moved to a really hot planet and it just doesn't change much beyond reducing the amount of biomes you have to choose from.
If there was a mod that added more options to the world generation so you can have worlds with weird alien biomes and wildlife and an atmosphere thats permanently toxic or something that would definitely make it worth doing but I'd imagine it would be a huge undertaking to make, maybe they have something like that in mind for the next DLC.
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590376 No.16938120
>finally activate What-the-hack's hiveship hacking facility to awaken rogue AI
>survive days and days of countless in-base drop-down bombardments from mechs
>rogue AI gains consciousness "this colony will fail due to eating without tables"
>just like most my female pawns, it's a high-maintenance cunt that requires frequent upkeep or suffer the wrath of it's mood swings
>AI later gains capabilities to latch itself to power grid, turrets and hacked mechanoids voluntarily positioning yourself at it's mercy
What could possibly go wrong?
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590376 No.16938125
>>16937850
>atmosphere thats permanently toxic
I'd like the idea of a toxic hellscape, where you develop tech to acclimate yourself to the climate but since tech has limitations, you could slowly alter your cells, based on the alien inhabitants,
mutating yourself to adapt naturally to certain environments but forging the means of human habitations as a trade-off.
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590376 No.16942986
Yon just can't make this shit up.
Even after a year of Randy finally dropping me a few space men, it still takes some rando prisoner to make just the right moves.
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000000 No.16942998
>Playing a game that's about overcoming every bullshit the game tries to throw at you
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fec5c7 No.16943019
>>16942998
couldn't you describe almost every game like that though
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590376 No.16943047
>>16942998
What's wrong, my friend? It almost sounds like you're adverse to FUN.
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6eec42 No.16947093
>spend all my silver to buy an animal pulser
>wait for the next big caravan
>activate it to make all the wild animals come and attack them
>the traders animals attack the traders, the traders now hate me
>think the traders will raid me instantly and hide
>later walk out of the mountain to see silver, components cloth, food and corpses everywhere
>hurry and put it all inside, base is now crammed, have to dig out more space
>all safe and sound inside
>look at wealth, it jumped by like 40%
>sieged warning pops up for the first time
first time playing in mountain. i saw surprised to find pockets of non-mountain roof.
not all factions except a tribe hate me
the problem is that between me and the siege is one of those crashed robot ships that gives me -50 constantly in mood, i never got around to killing them. i feel screwed.
so anyway, how do i make the kids from RJW look like kids?
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17dc9b No.16948441
Seems I have a nudist brawler who has read Industrial Society and Its Future…
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