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A pretty good time despite the sword being OP, the enemy variety being shit and some of the mid levels being complete shit.

Play it and avoid 2

>>16535582

A mediocre shooter with bullet sponge enemies and linear level design aka modern shooter. Fortunately sword is actually powerful and is the best weapon in the game which fixes terrible bullet sponge enemies bullshit.

Original is better and they will never ever beat it.

>>16535600

>Original is better

I played it and I don't get the appeal.

Doom 2 and Duke 3D are way better

Decent story and characters. best played on Normal mode since on the hardest difficulty the majority of your weapons are too weak save for 3 of them.

Second game improved the core combat, but it's inferior in every other aspect.

A mediocre game with the worst feeling guns in a game, mediocre sword combat that comes down to double tapping forward and clicking at everything several times because every enemy is a damage sponge, shitty level design, double tapping which does not work well on a keyboard, boring bosses and a really shitty story that takes itself too seriously. Also lo wang isn't funny.

>>16535582

It's long, has lots of variety in the settings, the fighting never gets boring, collectibles and leveling up is all neat and consistent, story was entertaining, main VA was really good, lots of gore, loved the restricted weapon variety in combination with certain enemies requiring different approaches, only downside is no replay value.

Stay the hell away from the 2nd one tho. It's just a clusterfuck of stuff you don't want to see, do or hear.

>>16535608

>Doom 2 and Duke 3D are way better

I compared it to a reboot.

However, they used newer version of Build and it has ton of various things as a result, like working vehicles, unique weapons with other various interactivity shit, this game is basically an Asian Duke Nukem with upgraded engine. I mean this fucking game has a mini nuke as a weapon. I think it is superior to Doom, but due to SW main problem it's not as good as Duke, the main problem is poor level design of course and the game being quite short, it really lacks great maps such as seppuku station, but still, those maps feel more "real" and not as boring compared to Doom 2. The city maps in Doom 2 are absolute dogshit.

Though at first it was supposed to be a game set during Feudal Japan which was pretty interesting concept.

>>16535658

>>16535617

who do I trust?

>>16535670

Compared to modern shooters 2013 is superior to most of them, but that's like saying a presentable product is preferable to trash.

>>16535597

>A pretty good time despite the sword being OP

But at least the sword forces you to play aggressively, so it's high-risk/high-reward. Unlike something like, say, Zombie Army Trilogy where the sniper rifle is OP and you're rewarded for standing at a distance and popping heads of slow shambling hordes. Even playing Solo, you have to increase enemy spawns appropriate for a two player game (to make ammo conservation a concern), and play on the hardest difficulty which introduces wind effects and bullet drop.

The only area in that whole fucking game which was even remotely challenging was in the third mission of the last episode where it funnels you onto a series of catwalks followed by an endlessly respawning horde of heavy-armor zombies on the one side, and a heavy-gunner bullet sponge enemy on the other - with the trick being to get to the other side of the map with enough time to kill the heavy gunner and chuck a grenade in the machines before the horde gets to you. And even that isn't that hard, because there's a nice square path you can kite the gunner around while laying down explosives and headshots.

Even the final boss is pathetically easy since you can cheese the hordes by just jumping from the balcony on the second floor to drop the skeletons right into the pit just a few steps away - and the horde will just turn around and shamble their way back down the stairs rather than following you over the edge to keep the pressure on and inflict damage while you're momentarily stunned.

>>16535670

Well, I can give you my take on the other anons post.

>worst feeling guns in a game

It's a ninja game, the sword is the main weapon, the guns are alternatives to disable shields and stuff. They're fine.

>mediocre sword combat that comes down to double tapping forward and clicking at everything several times because every enemy is a damage sponge

It's a console game designed for a controller, of course it sucks with a mouse. AS for sponges..not if you use the alternative guns to take the shields down and attacks the weak-points.

>shitty level design

It's corridor game, with little fighting hubs, and a bunch of semi-secret side paths. Nothing at all special about the design, it's the all the settings that are makes it entertaining.

>boring bosses

Yeah that's right, but they are super short, easy and mainly to reward the next weapon upgrades. There is also only a few of them.

>really shitty story that takes itself too seriously

Fuck you, anon. Lo Wang being a fucking dick makes every scene funny. Also fortune cookies.

>Also lo wang isn't funny.

"The difference between an oral thermometer and a rectal thermometer is all a matter of taste". How is that not funny?

>>16535730

Someone who makes template threads wouldn't appreciate classic Shadow Warrior anyway. OP is a fag and probably didn't even play this one.

>>16535669

I actually like the looks of this more than the actual released game

>>16535741

the summer really is upon us, huh?

>>16535638

>best FPS in recent years

true and it's still shit

>>16535582

>2013

:'-[

>Flying Hog Studio

What's their score so far?

Hard reset - ok

This - good

SW2 - bad

maining the nuke gun for the cringy puns about Hiroshima and Nagasaki

>>16535971

SW2 isn't even bad, just mediocre

It has some nice concepts but completely ruins it by turning it into a loot and shooter.

Remove that bullshit, remove the compass, remove the elemental garbage and you would get a pretty decent shooter.

They raped the game with that shit and it pisses me off, so much wasted potential.

>>16535582

>What am I in for?

ANCIENT CHINESE SCHECRET

forgettable

I really love Blood and DOOM and I'm partial to Dook, but I really had a hard time getting into the original Shadow Warrior. Maybe it was just because the sourceports I was trying either didn't run or had messed up vertical aiming, or maybe you're meant to play on an easier difficulty (I had just finished Blood on LB with minimal in-level saving, usually just in case I died to a door crushing me), but I was not having a fun time with the weapons or general feel of it. I guess I'll give it another try sometime. Any recommendations on best sourceport and the like?

>>16535726

>It's corridor game, with little fighting hubs, and a bunch of semi-secret side paths.

Oh fuck. Do you remember the scientist's head that you have to pickup to open a door in the secret lab? I walked around this shit for a good thirty minutes, lost in the fucking arena before I realized I had to collect a head that rolled who-knows-where.

I thought the game was good until it wasn't, and then good again somewhere near the end (the super katana you get for the last five minutes is a lot of fun to use).

Too easy, and as has been said a gorillion times, weapons REALLY lack a punch, which meanwhile the sword can actually kill things, so you really never use them unless you have to – sometimes maybe the dual smgs or the revolver practically just to spend the ammo you'll never be low on. you are in for a game that's fairly fun at first, and quickly gets boring after a couple hours.

To now just talk about my own thoughts separate of that question, I did absolutely love one thing, which was those menus for your abilities and chi and such. It's silly, just the menus, but they had really sublime music, and it was honestly super cool to see your guy in the menus gradually getting these tattoos or filling in woodblock style art, and they had nice descriptions as well. Absolutely not enough to make it good, but it's the one thing keeping me from truly calling the game 100% forgettable.

New SW is okay-ish. 2 might be okay if you're a fan of borderlands.

>>16536266

Original Shadow Warrior hates you. It's designed specifically to fuck you, moreso than Blood and douk combined. This game expects you to know every nuke location and have you use them less than sparingly in combination with smoke.

>>16535582

A young weeb nigger main character with unfunny one-liners carving his ways through hordes of few variants of bullet/slash sponge enemies equipped with artificial stupidity, besides few extra-large bosses that have conveniently glowing soft spots for you to target.

>>16536884

You need to use poison bombs and other AOE weapons strategically too.

>>16535726

What makes its level design especially boring is that it's effectively flat. You would think that a supposed ninja game would have at least the limited verticality of Thi4f.

>>16535582

just play the original

I JUST WANT TO PLAY AS A BLENDER

>>16536923

Oh yeah, strategic explosives around corners are required.

>>16537029

Try Demonsteele.

It's a flawed, but decent game.

Cons:

* Occasional invisible wall

* Very rare but very jarring instadeath terrain on some levels

* Early guns have no impact

Pros:

* quality gore

* breddy good shooting sections

* sword is great and really feels like it

Overall I felt it was worth it.

>>16536942

What's the best way to play classic Shadow Warrior? Classic Redux runs like ass and the remixed music is shit. PCGamingWiki lists two sourceports, SWP and JFSW, is one of them better than the other? Anybody try and play this game not using the remaster or DOSBox?

>>16537029

>>16537047

Can confirm, Demonsteele is what you want. GMOTA kind of fits this as well.

>>16536884

>moreso than Blood

Have you even played Blood on anything but easy difficulties? Blood is more difficult than SW, especially if you play on Extra Crispy.

>>16537128

>What's the best way to play classic Shadow Warrior?

At this point I feel like DOS is the best way to play it, SWP is fine, but it's missing a lot of shit. I hope EDuke32 devs bring a proper support for SW.

>remixed music is shit

Aside from the main theme the music is the same as CD version.

>>16537734

>At this point I feel like DOS is the best way to play it

Fuck, oh well.

>SWP is fine, but it's missing a lot of shit

Such as? My main concern with these Build engine sourceports is accuracy, is it lacking anything in that department?

>I hope EDuke32 devs bring a proper support for SW

Agreed, if we can get a sourceport for Blood based on EDuke then surely it's doable for a game that has its source actually released. Also, who knows, maybe BuildGDX will support it in the future. If I were that dev I would've focused on a game like SW as opposed to something like fucking TekWar

>>16535582

25° fov ported console shooter with bullet sponge enemies and several seconds of loading times between menus. Plus corridor levels and repetitive boring enemies.

>>16535608

>>Original is better

>I played it and I don't get the appeal.

You're right, Shadow Warrior 1 was ignored by everyone because stale and boring. All build games were quickly forgotten after Quake and real 3D hit gaming.

Memekids don't know this.

Ridiculous head bobbing because the devs are utterly incompetent. Hard Reset had it, Shadow Warrior had it, Shadow Warrior 2 had it. As if that isn't bad enough, there's a fuckton of visual noise and they made the enemies constantly flail around so trying to him them with guns is even more of a pain. At least is isn't as bad as Hard Reset, in which you have the agility and mobility of a five ton granite block. A callback to retro FPSes like Doom, guys! Because what defines Doom is being slow and clumsy.

The gameplay is passable if you can get past the shitty wobbling camera. The writing is shit. It's one step away from Borderlands tier humor, only slightly cruder and less feminist. After a game full of unfunny oneliners, they suddenly expect you to be sad at the end when it suddenly decides to take itself seriously. Also, use the console to get rid of the goddamned blur, bloom and other shitty filters that you can't disable in any other way.

>>16538237

The writing in Shadow Warrior 2013 is pretty good. Shadow Warrior 2 is when it becomes Randy Pitchford BAD-ASS tier. RIP Hoji.

Very different than the original, way too easy, no key hunting and it made me chuckle a few times.

Hoji deserved better

>>16538267

I'm sure that SW2 is even worse, but I do remember thinking that the first one had shit writing too. I couldn't tell if it was satire or not when it suddenly wanted you to take it seriously at the end.

Also speaking of the shit writing, SW2 just went "we wuz famous historical Japanese smiths" on me. And they just couldn't stop themselves from bringing it up repeatedly. Even worse is the new voice in your head, a genuis Japanese scientist girl that talks like a bitchy American teenager.

>>16535582

>What am I in for?

fun

followed by boredom

followed by cheats

followed by fun

followed by boredom.

the 2nd boredom doesnt go away.

>>16538662

>I couldn't tell if it was satire or not

You serious? The tone shift is pretty well done despite the batshit insane plot

>>16535582

Pretty fun swordplay but the enemy variety is lackluster, other than the fact that it is simply fun and funny and at times it's ok. Worth playing at least, 2 on the otherhand. no

>>16537056

Yeah, it makes logical sense that the Sniper rifle would be OP since it's the star of the show for the series it's a spin-off of, but it doesn't work in a Zombie game. Or at least it doesn't work here because the Zombies are all slow shambling hordes - turning the whole game into just backing up to a safe distance and popping heads. They really should have beefed up the mid range weapons a bit and put the pressure on the player by having zombies that were able to close the distance far more effectively and make a sniper rifle ineffective. As it is, the only zombie which has any sort of movement advantage is the suicide bomber - and you can hear him screaming a mile away and line up a shot so that the explodes in the middle of a horde.

Even the zombie snipers aren't much of a threat since they pull that shit where they always miss their first shot - and with a huge tracer trail, you know exactly where they're at. If for some reason you can't line up your shot in time, they'll jump and evade fire - but they only jump to one or two pre-determined positions, leave a huge smoke trail behind so they're easy to spot on the move, and the leap itself is slow as fuck so you can often just snipe them out of the air.

The idea isn't necessarily bad - they just fucked up the execution badly.

>>16538115

>Such as?

It's been some years since I played it, but the thing misses CD audio support, some basic settings like in EDuke32 and it crashed a lot in some places, skyboxes are shit too and pretty sure there were some graphical glitches. I think it's pretty accurate, at least as far as JFSW goes or Redux since both Redux and SWP were based of JFSW.

The thing feels quite wonky, but still, give it a go, it's not a terrible port, way better than Redux at least.

It's a more polished clone of Painkiller with an asian setting. If you liked Painkiller you're going to like this game, otherwise if you're a fan doom and build engine games you're not going like this game. Still better than halo, but that's not saying very much.

>>16542120

No Idea, its literally an exact copy of a thread made last year with the same posts and images