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good op

>>16340727

Averages between 20-30 during active periods.

What's the story behind the second image?

>>16340800

Tits.

>>16340727

We just had an alien brain transplant where we put a human brain into an alien. Yhat was an was a hell of an event.

>>16340878

What about the opposite.

>Transplant ayy into human body

>"""""human""""""" walks over to the hive

>Gets chestbursted

>ayy again

>repeat?

>having fun after respawn

>lol shuttle is called we r bored.

I have been cucked twice.

>>16340878

These is the stuff I wanna see.

>>16340898

Depends if antags murder medbay staff off the bat

was a pretty chill round, but gets boring fast with no miners bringing ore. bloodbrothers got blown out

The one thing I miss about Xenoarch is that it let Sci just say fuck it and get their own mats.

Also!

I fucking HATE that Sci has departmental protolathes and circuit imprinters. It's pretty garbage

Just booted it up for the fourth time.

>still fucking around as an assistant

>Shock myself in front of an Engineer

>Calls me a moron and tells me to fuck off as I'm trying to shove a hotpocket in his mouth

>Some anon approaches me

>"Hey, need something for a running nose?"

>Sure

>He feeds me LSD

>Walking around in a giant trip

>Find some godforsaken Gateway

>A doctor runs straight into

>"It's time for a gateway adventure"

>Jump after him

>get teleported to Arctic Station 13

>Freezing my nuts of in a corporate suit

>Find an ATV to explore the place

>No shuttle transit working. I'm trapped here

>Nobody is left alive except for the Space Bears

>Wishing I was back at the station eating hotpockets

>Drive my ATV straight into a plasma ppol

>Atleast the Space Bears can't get me now

GG, see you guys next time

>>16341497

I haven't played security in years mainly because of pubby admins always breathing down your neck and they know fuck all from actual space law.

>>16341497

>>16341504

My experience with sec is people will complain about you no matter what. I mentioned this in the last thread, but I caught someone doing a crime and had a recording of him admitting to doing it. He still cried shitsec in OOC because they weren't an antag. Dude even killed me in other rounds because he was so salty about it.

>>16341504

This. Fagmins always try to ban security for every little mistake meanwhile engineering release the singularity for the third round in a row and nobody will get so much as a slap on the wrist. Now only the people who don't know better play security.

>>16340633

>2nd pic

Now this is the kind of Greytide I can get behind.

Man, I love the megafauna, because it gives me something fun to do when I want to go die.

I can just say, "Aight, I Wanna go play splatoon, so let me go do this fun, dangerous thing that's certainly going to get me killed, but might not."

It just feels anticlimactic to go braindead somewhere

>>16341504

>>16341497

>>16341542

Stop playing Technically Goon and Hippie. The admins in our station actively encourage sec to do whatever it can to maintain peace and purge non-humans and usually if someone says they're going sec, other people also join as sec as well.

The only thing worse than being a medic during an epidemic is to be solosec, join as well as the redshirts, they usually need the help.

on another note, TG security has so little to work with holy shit, they used to have a fuckload of great tools to deal with all sorts of threats and a hybrid taser to boot, now all they're given is a baton, cuffs, a disabler and told to fuck off. They don't even have belts unless Botany makes it for them, or even a combat knife.

>>16341552

>AI makes false claims about me

>sec was just going to throw me in the brig

>get lynched by the crew and AI instead because they were bored despite there being lings around

Sometimes Sec are the only ones doing their jobs. I honestly thought the AI had gone rogue. Granted I admit this comes with being a mime/clown, and I knew the risks before picking the job. My only regret was not being able to help my friend speak swedish.

Barring our own server, what is the best one to play on these days? I've been permabanned from everywhere but paradise for my autism.

>>16341631

Probably /vg/ if it wasn't based on baycode with their shitty medical system and wasn't filled with all sorts of shitty cliques and cults of personality. God knows they won't stop fellating Pomf's dick anytime soon in there.

They do have great weapons and weapon mechanics there though, like the Judge Dredd HoS pistol that ricochets everywhere and explodes whenever a greyshirt tries to pick it up and fire it, i'll give them that.

>>16341643

>shitty cliques and cults of personality

this is exactly what I am attempting to avoid, since it seems to be omnipresent on every goddamn server

>>16341651

Only reason it has not wormed its way in here is because of anon culture that /vg/ has lacked for years.

Talking about anon, when is anoncode going to be readded to the server?

>>16341671

>20

>depressingly low

>>16341733

I'd say 5 or lower is too low

>open interface more than 3 times

>tGUI stops working entirely and have to relog

thanks /tg/

>>16341789

>clown injects me with something

>byond crashes

thanks /tg/

>>16341197

That design is horrible and has so much wasted space on it.

>>16341789

/tg/ UI is ass and thankfully little by little the coders are replacing it on this server with the nanoui

>>16341671

If you're gonna play a cuckchan server because it has population at least play /vg/ which has a robust medical system overhaul and ZAS and funny enough less powergaming

>>16341828

more like technically gay

>>16341838

>mime was antag all along

>gets cloned and healed by shitter med who was SSD half the round

>>16341853

pretty sure the mime was an antag target, not an antag himself

>byond crashes twice after multiple login attempts forcing me to spend 5 minutes relogging in at the worst possible moment

>>16341853

>>16341856

mime wasnt an antag, but was acting like one

>>16341852

Fuck it? Yes.

>Almost fully map the genome

>Byond fucking breaks

>>16341597

>They don't even have belts unless Botany makes it for them, or even a combat knife.

Dang, I had no idea. I'll add "make gear for security" to my list of botanical project ideas.

>>16342089

Can you believe the absolute bullshit TG is doing to Sec? You have to actually spend personal credits roundstart as an officer to buy a security belt in the security vendor. It costs 800 credits for a webbing when the salary is 20 credits per payday cycle.

>>16341597

Sec needs more lethal gear on this server being full of retards. God forbid sec stuns someone cause practicaly everyone is carrying a weapon.

>>16341733

>no heads

>too low for most antags to spawn

>comprised of anons doing some autistic projects in long shifts where nothing happens

>>16341775

haha it's so bad we're using their code

>>16341597

>>16342089

>>16342097

They do have belts, what are you talking about? You take them from security lockers. They have a baton, a flash, pepper spray and cuffs inside.

Unless they changed it fucking today.

>>16342182

also a flashbang

>>16342177

No tg code is horribly buggy and has had alot of features removed due to people getting angry about how insensitive they are, like sex changes for example. I dont actually know the reason we're using this besides the fact it makes mining and botany fun

>>16342182

Departmental lockers don't have belts. Neither does two out of six lockers in sec, infact the lockers that DO have them, only have them because the mapper placed the belts there deliberately. The lockers don't have shit man.

>>16342346

It also has removed a lot of the fun virus stuff that I remember using for healing viruses.

>>16342346

Supposedly it has "better portability" but the same was said in 2016 when gitgud wanted to also use nutg and then found out the only shit he'd porting would be upstream tgshit instead of what he wanted eg /vg/ features.

The reason we're still sticking with it is because there's more to do on long shifts and we have coders that are unfucking the everything that is wrong with the codebase, starting with the absolute cancer that is TGUI and working up from there. Not so strangely so, porting /vg/ MoMMIes also seems to be rather difficult now as it keeps spitting out errors, just like it did in the past.

>>16342417

All the everything was nerfed.

Genetics doubled down on RNG with superpowers having a CHANCE to manifest even if you hit the right block in the corregt range.

Sci was changed from a spreadsheet, that without it actually was a decent item hunt to see what works, to fucking tetris.

Telescience was outright deleted, zapped, gone.

Virology had half its diseases, both beneficial and not, cut, and the other half were "rebalanced".

Xenobio went from "rewarding but dangereous" to "lol free mats" as you can teleport slimes and monkeys now without effort into pens, but slime reactions and types were reduced, like you can't find roboburgers or gatfruit out of food slimes or xenos from golds. But heck is it easy to massproduce metal, grenades and powercells with them.

Even atmos processes much slower and space isn't as deadly as before because of it.

I haven't even touched half of it. I think they also nerfed chemicals they introduced but i can't remember.

>>16342451

I know for a fact that some of those things arent true as I played them today. Genetics is now correctly mapping blocks of dna with correct AT/GC pairs. The only rng involved with them is scrambling dna until you can get the mutation and then which parts of the pairs are missing and need to be filled in. Its actually got (easy) puzzle mechanics to it now instead of just being pure rng.

I don't know how science research is tetris now, but it passively generates research points now which you spend on buying out projects from the research tree. You can also generate more points by doing other shit in science.

It is pretty gay that telescience and virology both got owned though. Science has nanites now though which seem to function like a different version of virology, but I havent fucked with it so I dont know if it just cannibalized shit from virology or not.

>>16342472

Nanites are absolutely different form Virology. Its basically just free healing for researching the right trees, but if someone comes over and subverts it you'll die.

>>16342472

>Genetics unfucked

Must have been one of the changes our coders initially did before starting the server. I recall TG being adamant on fucking genetics over and over because people kept powergaming it to hand out godsyringes to every greyshirt on the station every round.

>How is sci tetris?

It isn't?

Last i recall about nuTG sci, was that they changed how to obtain levels into a stupid tetris minigame that restricted the time until you could unlock xrays to 15min by point adquisition. I haven't touched it now, but how you say it sounds it seems like they copypasted the old Cargo point system and just placed it ontop of R&D and i find that even lamer. I'll have to check what else they changed of it tomorrow.

>>16342489

They've locked out certain items in the protolathe and only made them buildable in department autolathes. It's why you can't find mining equipment in the protolathe anymore.

>>16341597

>They don't even have belts unless botany makes it for them

They do too, on metastation at least they're in the lockers in the room above the brig entrance

>or even a combat knife

A combat knife is one of the best meele weapons non-antags can get their hands on, why should sec have it roundstart without needing to get it from cargo?

>>16342707

Then why is it miners can get it roundstart asides from all the weapons they can get and craft roughly 5 minutes into the game? This includes chainsaws and proto-crushers which are much stronger than the knife. That was a rhetorical question by the way, it's because lavaland is shit, but still beside the point.

Although i question why they would make an utility weapon like a knife a Force 20 weapon when the closest thing to it would be the Fire Axe clocking at 24, and the closest low second would be the Null Rod and all its variations at 18 despite being an unique weapon. I mean, it has more use as a food utensil for butchering already dead mobs than for cold murder. And if an officer is going to kill some poor sod with something in melee, it's gotta be with his harmbaton for constant stuns anyway.

>>16342875

miners don't start with a combat knife, they start with a survival knife, it does 15 damage instead of 20 damage

i think giving sec survival knives roundstart would be a good idea but like you said they'd probably just use harmbaton for meele

>>16343115

why is maintenance non-existant?

>>16343127

The whole station is maintenance :^)

>>16342533

I was going to work on this because I need shit posting music, can you get a thousand miles and maybe making my way down town.

>>16343180

Toxins sounds great as you took the words out of my mouth, needs an RPD, 2 pumps, 2 filters, and a surplus of cannisters for fucking around.

>>16343212

I also put a single indestructible wall block on the toxins bomb test pad so you can continue launching and testing bombs there instead of the station, or having to rebuild it. Not sure how I'll do the camera without that getting blown up though.

>>16343271

Goon uses VR that rebuilds itself and it hides in another zlevel, maybe consider that sort of idea.. That or a floorbot that rebuilds the wreckage after detonation and it tells you when it's done. For the camera does it actually have to be there? is there an invisible and invincible camera object?

>>16343285

2 hallway width instead of 3 might be dangerous and there's an inconsistency going west of arrivals

>>16343304

Explain?

>>16343300

That might work, I think our codebase has that with the metastation holodeck in dorms. I might look at it at a later date.

>>16343347

Well as it stands 2 hallway width can be easily congested or griefed with blocking as the other person only has one way to go, hence why most stations use a 3 wide hallway.

>>16343285

Is this a gulag or just baby's first station that will get abandoned after a week?

>>16343387

it's a station that's actually meant to be terrible as a challenge

>>16343387

>>16343405

Why not a derelict station that you have to rebuild before antags fuck it up even further?

>>16343429

It's exactly that except with rusted walls instead of regular walls.

I'm gonna add coloured department tiles like in meta too but with the sepia theme so it isn't all monocolour sepia.

>>16343405

Isn't the challenge meant to come from other players in a multiplayer game?

>>16343429

Because building stuff in this game is pointless, asumes that you have nothing better to do and that everyone is role playing while you're following the spawn>pipe>paint>wrench>tile>set up air alarm instead of you know, silently throwing a mini bomb on your engineer ass while screaming their lungs out that there's aliens in a 12 man station with 1 braindead security officer.

Just get a heavily fortified station intended for low pop rounds with reinforced floors, departamental turrets/alarms, several cloners and casual gun cabinets in every department instead of going with the fa/tg/oy formula where you die 5 minutes into the round and spend 30 as a ghost until someone clones you as a ligger.

I say we turn shitcurity into LETHCURITY! Give em all a glawk instead of tazers/disablers/whateverthefucknu/tg/had, krav gloves instead of stun batons, and WP grenades instead of flash bangs (ok maybe not that last one). Also port Bay's hold-up system.

Are lizards valid yet?

>>16343587

glonk when

>>16343587

>>16343623

>antags working against a militarized station

might be fun, I love cloak and dagger shit.

>>16343530

>intended for low pop rounds

Hmm… Station selection based on the number of players waiting to join isn't possible since it needs to load in the background, but what about choosing based on the number of players in the previous round? Would that be possible?

>>16343655

CEV Eris had some of that. The security were Ironhammer. They had all access to departments and both lethal and non-lethal options. If they thought you were being a shitter they had valid to kill you or just jackboot your head until you went unconcious.

>>16343736

Could be, or that an admin is on and just selects a station appropriate to the number of people.

>>16343781

did the janitor fuck up again

>>16342533

Were you the one who converted "Dearly Beloved" in to midi already?

>>16343979

Kinetic Accelerators recharge at half speed if you dualwield them.

Try it yourself.

>>16342533

share with me your midi secrets

How powergamey is your server?

>>16344128

It's pretty powergamey. If you haven't maxed out what your department can do five minutes in you risk certain fags breaking into it to beat your shit in and do everything themselves.

>>16344128

>>16344138

All Me

>>16344128

Refer to >>16319961

>>16343887

No, I think that one is up on the /tg/ wiki. I'm the one that's been playing fighting gold.

The metafaggotry is fucking insane too. Heaven help you if you end up robusting one of the fags that sit in fucking mumble. You'll get gangbanged and possibly bwoinked since I'm pretty sure someone on the admin team is part of that shit.

It's starting to make this server unplayable for me.

>>16344165

post evidence or you're just shitposting

>>16343623

one thing thats bizarre is the mix of guns right now and the fact that you can make advanced energy weapons, but you cant make more revolvers or shotguns. the autolathe can make ammo for shotguns and revolvers, but you can only make a pipe shotgun.

>>16344185

>The only way to get evidence of a faggot's ghost hovering your character while some omniscient cuck kills you is by metagaming, having a ghost hovering your own character

Really gets the noggin joggin

Reminds me of being a traitor, killing that furfag board owner then watching the announcer state someone joined as a security/captain within the next minute.

>>16344141

Guy looks to just be shitposting.

Might just try it out later, do some chem.

>>16344140

Get on my level, everyone in this thread is me.

>>16344165

I know who you are

>>16344581

why is there also a fucking legion in there

i don't know if i can figure this out

>>16344581

>>16344592

>thread ick ock

>>16344599

i'm pretty sure this isn't the current round unless i'm wrong in which case correct me

>>16344592

yeah i give up

>>16344606

It's definitely the current round.

>>16344599

m8

>>16344606

it is

>>16344609

Context is missing though.

>>16344613

>Context is missing

Any other loopholes you want to jump through to justify shittery?

>>16343979

I like the one on the right more than the one on the left, but that's just me.

>>16343979

I like the prison being visible from the civilian area. It might encourage players to use the prison more instead of just killing suspects.

im not sure you should even wall off the main church area at all. remove the north and east walls, and have it look more like it was set up by hand one sunday morning by the chaplain himself.

>>16344606

Round is over and i can spoil. Jaunters are great tools to get your body out of sticky situations. It's too bad they act slow enough to get you legioned in the worst of cases.

>>16344592

>>16344581

I have no clue whats going on.

What in the fuck happened here?

>>16344792

except anon is additionally wrong about the locker contents being placed by the mapper as well, they come with the locker preset.

>>16344599

>ick ock

unironically meaningless

>>16344650

Definitely try to have one of each area from meta station, including machines and items (to an extent), but don't feel obligated to make the departments looks similar to the ones on meta.

>>16344705

I was thinking of that yeah because the floor border is uneven on the one on the left.

>>16344727

Yeah, I'll have timers on the walls so the warden can keep track but the doors are just firelocks and won't open automatically. Prisoner loot is stashed in the warden's office and given to the prisoner over the counter once they are moved to the low-security lobby area. From there the warden can buzz them out without exposing himself to harm. I'll likely include a paper stating this procedure so wardens don't get robusted by feisty criminals who then proceed to raid the security department on a sketchy valid. That area is also used for booking so the warden can do the proper paperwork for their crimes before putting them in a cell. This actual criminal record that anons never bother doing can give them valid to perma or execute space a criminal. I'm probably going to add a perma section to security if I have extra real estate.

>>16344581

>>16344592

was your body the one that was that legion thing? i was the hop and i fucked that thing up. the best part of that round was i gassed the hos for being a stupid nigger

>>16344922

>Gassing the HOS.

>Not locking them in a room with chimps.

Fucking casuals.

>>16344836

I was just trying to think of a reasonable way it might be laid out. I'll work on the lay out of the other departments tomorrow and post them all, and then if you approve, as the other map maker, I'll work on getting them set up so that they're on the station correctly. My idea / theme for the station is that it'll be a lot like meta station, but with each of the departments having space on the station dedicated to their secondary objectives [A room just for a Station wide shield, or in medical a DNA vault] and things like that. Along with extra activities available, like engineering hooking up Laser turrets on the outside of the station for Defense and things like that. I wanted the command bridge to be on the far east side of the station, and be the path to the AI mini-sat, with the mini sat holding all of the important stuff like the Research server, and communication equipment. I was thinking of also having the Nano-Bot pod in Medical, with medical set out more like a set of two corridors, one for treating patients, and one for enhancing them, with them meeting at the bottom in a U shape with Virology at the lowest point.

Sec officer: "Lets go our planet needs us."

>Climbs onboard the borg

>Off into space we go.

>>16345334

I was going to just keep giving banana pies and bluespace tomatoes to the clown but he disappeared after a point and the chef was come and go so I just started making big doinks. Its a shame the vending machines went awol before I could buy more paper.

>All this butthurt over the Mime this round

I'd say "every day until you like it" but I'm not sure I'll be able to play Mime that much.

host fix your shitty map rotation and re-enable the other antag modes for lower player counts

>>16345600

You did your best man. If only I wasn't so retarded and found my turret controls sooner. I kept thinking they were the pepper spray refill stations and really felt like an idiot when I finally moused over it.

>>16345778

>Rape Fantasies

Have you actually played here or are you just coming here to tell us you're a retard?

How the fuck does the gibber work? I cannot for the life of me get bodies into it

>>16345860

I believe you need a strong grab

>>16345862

I tried that.

>>16345864

Nevermind, now it's working

>>16345871

solo nuke op ended round. that augged guy doing surgery on himself was hilarious

>>16345778

>Anyone played on the server that uses obtuse, unfun mechanics or in-jokes almost exclusively for content and still is barren compared with any other server?

>Anyone played on the server that has a channel specifically for Goons to metagame and segregate everyone else. as well as closed code so any advantage they might want over pubbies?

>Anyone played on the server where Chemistry is roughly as big in terms of content as the rest of the game because chems and chem recipes are all they know how to do?

>Anyone played on the server that doesn't give one fuck about you unless you come from SA?

>Anyone played on the server full of genuine autists that already know the game top to bottom and now that they are bored, they'll do nothing but ruin the life of everyone else?

<At least they don't say nigger :(

Racism as a joke is pretty lame at this point, you actually have to struggle to make something funny out of it considering how over abused it is. But you have to be some kind of special snowflake to even consider that an argument in favor of Goon.

You're transparent as fuck however, you're present in every thread always suggesting some other server for people to play in instead of the resident one because you can't stand them having an alternative from where you were banned. Stay salty and learn how to function in a group of people instead of following Goon advice and "beeing yourself".

>>16345885

I was just figuring out chef stuff.

Saw the station blowing up and thought it was localized so I closed shutter doors but started sweating when I saw it spreading

>>16345342

As the shitty I'm sorry guys I'll be better next time clown I never received blue space tomatoes.

>slipped by engineers blue tomatoes

>I need to steal his shoes

>chase him into maintenance

>he deploys his arm blade and murders my shit

I'm pretty sure after that he impersonated me so you gave blue space tomatoes to the changeling.

HONK

>>16345889

>heart can be done solo

You die if your brain or heart are ever removed under normal circumstances. I learned a long time ago back when legion hearts could replace normal hearts for a constant passive regen that you needed someone else to replace your heart and defib you back to life. Maybe if you could train a medgun on you while you're on the table you could stay alive but I wouldn't know if that's possible to do solo, you can't use it on yourself in your hand.

>>16345951

I didn't die immediately there was a brief moment before I dropped the hemostat and cyber heart but there was no way I could switch hands fast enough then spent like five minutes bleeding out thanks to my augs keeping me alive.

>Implanting legion cores

Completely forgot you could do that. I thought it was just a chest cavity implant, they can replace the heart? Do they need to be stabilized or raw?

Server is back up. Updated with more runtime fixes and shit.

God bless.

Always wanted to try this gay game, but the last time I got on they told me to wait approx. 3 hours for the game to end.

How long do these fucking games go? I can't wait all day.

>>16345292

Yeah I never liked how niggers just let themselves into medical to yoink the supplies. On the one hand, nobody usually sits at the desk but on the other medbay is the most B&E'd department on the station. Two hallways would be interesting especially if you play around with the shape. As for security, one thing I was going for was a booking area at the front so a warden or hos can properly micromanage the department. Another experiment I'm going with is making all the civilian departments have doors near each other to encourage player interaction.

Just post some pictures and we'll go from there.

>>16346393

We did actually move on from pizza to a fork of nu-tg which we are modifying. Lurk moar.

>>16346121

Half the fun is learning from mistakes in which you'll either die horribly or wipe out the station.

>SArais on the server

What did we do to deserve this?

>>16347314

Looks pretty robust. You might consider using that middle square as a space cooling loop for cryo. This definitely looks like something that wound function for a highpop server, considering all the redundant systems. I like how you put chemistry away from the public, which means random niggers won't have as easy a time B&E into it to steal things and make chems.

>>16347314

I didn't think about the Cooling loop for Cryo, that sounds like it would be a pretty cool thing to do. I'll set that up because that sounds like it would be a fun to do. I was thinking it was for when the server gets to 20+ people, so that we have an excuse for two surgery rooms. I wanted observation to be in a place where people could come and watch easily. Are there any other changes you would suggest?

What's this new "robust" meme?

>>16345977

Legion cores used to be hearts and you could implant them for a passive regen, then they changed it to where replacing your heart let you activate it as an implant for a heal as if you used it normally. I haven't a clue if you can still use legion cores as a heart.

>>16347314

You intend to make each department sort of its own branch? In boxstation and metastation there's a bit of overlap/neighbors situation between departments both adjacent and connected by maint. Genetics and Science are favorites to be connected because Geneticists are technically part of both medical and science. Just something to keep in mind.

>>16347737

What my plan was, was to have three nodes, like the thing you see above, so one is Sec/ Med and the other is Recreation / Science [Top / Bot] with the left side of the station being arrivals, Mining, Cargo, and the far right side being Command / AI / Vault and the center of the station, with all of the maintence tunnels and everything coming from it, be where the Engine is, and engineering and atmospherics, in the central node, with the main hall passing straight through. So that inter-department links are made out in space.

I'm not sure though, i'll make my mind up as I develop the station more. It's going to be large, and so my main worry is that the station will end up being too large and a real pain in the butt to navigate or get around to the various departments.

Hey, I'm totally new to this game. Can I play?

>>16347804

Is 8.5 inch big?

>>16347807

Mine is 9+ you little girly man.

>>16347884

Man, I could really go for a powergame right about now.

>>16347915

Don't you mean a meatgame?

>>16347927

You look tense, nancy. Very tense.

>>16347933

Get a room you fags

>>16347969

The door is always open for you, anon.

>>16348046

Death

>>16348052

Oh boy, guess I gotta give it a try then.

>>16348046

Mothmen can't be flashed, which is bullshit. I don't know what disadvantage they have.

>>16348069

mothmen CAN be flashed, their eyes are super sensitive

plasmamen can't be flashed

>>16348069

Its all here

https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Races

>>16348046

You will be pelted by replacement light bulbs

Raven ISN'T broken, its just that admins disabled the shuttle subsystem midround while trying to figure out why we were at 150% time dilation.

>>16348046

Flamethrowers will happen.

>>16347764

i meant did you want a legal defense you sperg, but you just kept saying the word "meme."

>>16348118

well that was disappointing, i wasted all those credits and it was an insane mess.

Remember:Pull the trigger on every ligger!

>>16348098

yeah I fucked that one up

>>16348098

Moths couldn't be flashed a few days ago due to QUALITY spaghetti, but now they're more sensitive than usual to flashes

>>16348532

>engineer

>clearly was the geneticist

wat?

>didn't even know he was an antag

>literally beat that janitor to death then cremated him

seriously, wat?

>>16348541

I was the geneticist. I was somewhat working with the robticist, neither of us realized we had a third brother. The third guy didnt realize he was an antag and at the round end he even said "oh wait, I was an antag?"

>>16348538

Someone recalled the shuttle so I went to the bridge to call it again and the secborg tried to flash me several times (which didnt work because I was in the HoS's suit) so I shot at him until he left then I went to RD office to blow him. The other traitor saying he was emagged was a bit after the secborg exploded.

>>16348538

Secborgs are nerfed in nutg, you have to buy the combat cyborg module reseach and then manually give it both cuffs and disabler. They only start with a baton.

>>16348604

I can /kind of/ understand not giving them a disabler, but no cuffs? Christ that's miserable.

>>16348545

People thought I was the antagonist based on all I did was pie cannon peoples faces, tear up the floor tiles for the central primary hallway because the captain said to be "productive" and to piss of the janitor, and moving windows.

Here's the kicker as well, sometime after I died the lone security guy went brain dead because there was literally nothing to do.

The captain also fucked up setting up the supermatter and died to burning alive, crystal was almost at 10% when admin removes it because reasons. So me and the captain were sitting in dead chat for about 40 minutes before someone finally cloned the captain. So what else is there do as a ghost besides bitch and make commentary on how retarded the rest of the crew is.

>>16348046

Lynchings and flamethrowers, hopefully.

>>16348695

>The captain also fucked up setting up the supermatter

Nobody set up the supermatter. Some traitor just turned on the lasers.

>>16340633

Server host wants you to play on his ganoo/lenux server

byond://68.183.49.166:1488

>>16348784

Its only going to be for one round, since we haven't properly set up the BSQL or rust_g files. Just enjoy it for aslong as you can, trust me, its so much fucking better.

someone sabotaged the SM and then the station gets assblasted with meteors. i called the shuttle, carded the AI, grabbed Ian, and escaped on a pod. all while drinking, smoking, and playing komm susser tod at the AI's request.

loonex server is back up

0 time dilation is a fucking blessing

don't know if i can be bothered going back to wangblows server

>when you get a top tier pda bro

Nya you were the best.

>>16348784

So everyone is playing on this server now?

>>16349413

Yeah, the old one is permanently lobbied and tells you to go to the new one. 0% time dilation.

>play ashligger

>two others join me suddenly it must be murderboner oclock

>we go about the routine

>decide to go to syndicate station and take it over

>die shortly before we do, pods are still completely unused, its safe

>observerfag is carefully watching one of our lizboys, but wont take an egg

>enter station, going to have fun

>suddenly scientistfag with AT rifle

>good lord his aim is trash

>we and the lizardboys drop this retard

>instantly comes back

>takes out the lizardboys but I spearhuck the cuck to death while he frantically tries to aim and fails

>fails to take me out with an entire mag of the AT rifle (1hko) and ap stetchking

>dies

>comes back

>mobbed by spearhuckers

>he comes back again and instantly rushes to my location while im in a corner somewhere healing

>shoots us down

>no eggs left

>walls in the station, hucks all our bodies into the lava

>activates self destruct

>fails to shoot the self destruct with his AT rifle twice

>self destruct finally ticks down

Observerfags are underage prove me wrong.

>>16349543

Non-player here

What does time dilation mean, exactly? Does the UI stop responding, does it lag, does it go at full speed but the game responds slower?

>>16349617

it slows processes to help keep the players/server from hard-freezing/stop so when it gets to absurdities like 80% the light from your flashlight might not update for a few seconds even. its not noticeable whatsoever at about 30% but after that it becomes "oh fuck shit is slowing down"

>>16349627

What's a janipocalipse event feel like?

>>16348578

>I was the geneticist. I was somewhat working with the robticist, neither of us realized we had a third brother. The third guy didnt realize he was an antag and at the round end he even said "oh wait, I was an antag?"

>Literally didn't do anything but chaos still ensued because of the rampant paranoia

Top kek, this never gets tired

>>16349638

It's terrible for everyone inside the station.

>>16349797

Now.

>>16350071

No, because then I'll get ads

>>16350024

hit no frills and gg, we are replacing all the tgui shit and most of it is now gone

>>16350087

>be clown

>fuck around and fail to fill the station with laughing gas again

>fag in bar gives me a flamethrower

>Nice

>go to the corner to test it

>fuckhueg range, set myself and half the room on fire

>barman touches me, catches on fire, thinks I'm attacking him and kills me with a knife

>random guy finds my body and clones me

>become a naked retard failing speech checks until eventual DC

How the fuck does atmos work? 20% oxygen to 80% nitrogen should have the whole station laughing

>>16350357

>the atmospheric composition is normal

>why isn’t everyone laughing

Normal breathable air isn’t N2O, dipshit.

>>16350370

I guess I fucked something up then. How do you mess around with stuff? I just changed the values on the computers at the bottom of atmos.

>>16347293

You didn't. You are blessed.

>>16350390

Atmos is pretty easy. Each gas has a sealed room with a gas miner to basically generate an infinite amount of that gas. There is a main distribution and waste loop through the station; everything will flow through these two pipes. The problem is that gas will equalize across the sections of the pipe network, so if you want stuff to happen you need to keep the pressure up or the gas moving.

There are filters to recycle gas from the waste loop back into the miner chambers. The nitrogen and oxygen miner chambers have a special output to air mix (80:20 respectively, or 101.33 kPa at 20C). The air mix connects to the distribution loop I believe. Other pure gases connect to the pure channel, which connects to the mix loop. The mix loop can go to ports (tank filling), distribution, and waste.

>>16350357

Laughing gas is molecular NO2, not a mixture of N2 and O2 like the regular atmosphere

>>16350390

>>16350407

I can't check on what you do, but likely you set the miner output to 4,000 kPA, which is fine. However, that's only for the miner->pipe. Each filter/port that exists along the pipes is default set to 101.3 kPA (default air pressure), and if you don't override them, then you've got your meme mix at default air pressure against normal air mix at default pressure - no gas is moving.

>Tinker with the shiny new client

>Change line spacing

>All textbox text overlaps and I can't seem to reset it

Help

>>16350398

>>/cow/525158

>>16350476

>I'm retarded

>>>/cow/525158

>>16350493

The chat setting seems to be stored in a clientside cookie, see if you can delete that shit

>>16350493

>>16350473

Every time I click increase line height, it forces size to 0.1. I'm running an old IE and can't update it (removed system telemetry, can't do .msi installers anymore). Pretty sure chat settings are serverside, so I need my user settings cleared. I did do an ahelp but host is away for 12 hours, unfortunately, so it looks like I'm done for today.

>>16350581

also, you can switch to old chat with the fix chat verb in the ooc tab

>>16350589

Well it's a shame I can't use the new chat, but this gets me working again. Thanks

New round starting soon.

Okay so just for posterity's sake, if anyone goes full retard with their chat like I did, you just have to clear your IE cookies and it resets it.

New serber, what happened to the old one?

>>16350795

upgraded to linux, new ip is

byond://68.183.49.166:1488

>>16350827

Aye I got it, just wondering if everything was gud with the serber.

>>16350904

yep. that's space station 13 alright

>>16350950

unyiffed

LIGGER RACEWAR HAPPENING LIVE

>>16349580

You're still upset?

>People who kill me are observerfags

did you ever stop to think the base was on red alert? :^)

Working on buffing ash ligger gear a little bit, should make them a bit more competitive with KA spamming miners. Taking suggestions now.

>some points of armour on ash gladiator gear (chest/arm, from the sprite)

>More spear damage/throwing damage

>>16351142

>gear

How about an organ that lets them get stims so they move faster for a bit, would also help them kill watchers. It also gives miners a reason to hunt them and harvest their sweet stim-secreting organ.

>>16351142

unarmed fist applies a 1-tic-one-damage aimed at head inflicts bite-bleed which stacks infinitely until medically tended (bandages, etc.)

>Atmos tech, as tator

>Objectives are Station Blueprints and assassinate the other engineer

>Oh fuck, well I can't fuck with the air that's too obvious

>Some dumbfuck runs into the SM Shard and fucks everything up

>Meanwhile I steal the blueprints, AI is wise to me though

>Captain is a Ligger and shitposting wildly

>Goal is to fuck the air and rename the bridge to DEAD LIGGER STORAGE, an alibi

>Take too long, somehow ligger infection spreads, everyone is liggers, race war

>Head out to space and start fucking the station infrastructure, air, power you name it

>Eventually a deathsquid comes

>Wall myself off in a pod, die horribly

VIDEOGAMES

tfw the supposedly anti ligger genocide squad murders humans too :(

>>16351142

>>16351148

Oh and allow me to clarify, it would be an organ that gives them a power they can activate that puts a small amount of stims in their body. Maybe its their kidneys? Spear embedding is robust enough but this will let them outmaneuver miners and resist slowdown on damage.

>>16351148

>>16351149

Possibly noted but I'm not looking to code a ton of stuff right now particularly. Right now I just want to give liggers a helping hand if miners fast rush them. Liggers should be given the opportunity to get bone armour.

>>16351155

Explain embedding? Assuming on a good throw there's a chance it sticks and bleeds them?

>>16351158

My idea is basically the same as the embed. Maybe give liggers a 100% chance to embed?

>>16351159

This would be funnier if the "butts flying off from farting/pooing" and "mouths flying off from violent puking/screaming" were implemented.

>Embed a butt in somebody's forehead

Yiff in hell, liggers. Humans win again.

>>16351153

>shot and beaten to death by the moth one

Whoever you are, fuck you.

>>16350071

I can't believe this shit still relies on IE. Sure it would be a nightmare to fix at this point but goddamn.

tfw only killed liggers, shame my death squad companions can't read

>>16351142

Fire Breath mutation is fun.

https://pastebin.com/FNgyH23a

Turns out KA deals bomb type damage so starter ligger armour now protects against 10 melee (brute) and 15 bomb (probably also brute) damage.

>>16351185

May allow them to get a rare and expensive thing they can either drink or put at the tendril which makes a thing they can drink that gives them that, but that would be more late game. Right now I'm focusing on early game potential.

>>16351202

thanks

*note these changes only take effect if the hostfag accepts my pull request

>>16351215

Bomb damage makes sense I guess, if you think of the physics

>>16351202

I missed this

>>16351202

Oh no

Okay, pull request submitted. Only buffed the armour and nothing else, at least for now. I want to see or hear how it affects the current balance before I consider anything, don't want to make ash walkers too powerful- just strong enough to not get memed early on.

>>16351236

Eh, It will do until we get something more interesting. I think they're fine when they can expect a rush, but none of the liggers were expecting anything and were mostly just getting their bearings, and one of them lost an arm

What chemistry wiki do we use

>>16351389

https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Guide_to_chemistry

>Prepare oxygen tank with 1% Plasma, 99% Oxygen

>Wear it at 101.3 kpa

>Start to lose HP rapidly, taking toxin and suffocation damage

>Wear it at 1014 kpa

>Takes literally 10 times longer for effects to appear

>In fact, it's only from toxin damage, no oxyloss

>Wear it at 20.0 kpa

>Same as above

What's the deal?

>>16351500

>Huffing plasma

fuck sakes

>>16351517

I did it in a controlled setting, but it seems like having it at default air pressure is the worst thing you can do.

Also, I tried a 1% N2O : 99% O2 and got mostly the same thing, I was taking oxyloss damage.

>>16351555

you have to place the ore box behind it, placing ores manually inside doesn't give credit

>>16351521

The reason you're taking damage is from oxygen poisoning. When your mask pressure is 1000 kPa is should have exploded your lungs. At standard pressure, 100 % oxygen should poison/hurt you from over saturation,, but at lower pressures, the "air" is thinner, but balanced out by being 100% oxygen. Try a standard atmosphere of pressure, with 73% nitrogen, 2% n20 and 25% oxygen and shown results

>Join midround cargo tech

>cargo bros are ordering tons of sec crates

>meanwhile i'm focusing on bounties

>HoP and Scientist come in and get mad over all the sec crates

>Point out to HoP who ordered the crates

>Ignored

>Pick up a helmet and armour and head over to mining to go to mining shit

>durand flashbangs me

>Says he's lynching cargo

>New goal, fuck over the durand

>Cargo keeps the sec gear anyway

>Find hulk injector in medbay

>Hulked up

>send an emp pulse to durand from RD's office

>Nothing happens

>figure the console is broken

>Build my own

>HoP walks in

>Take a moment to take in all the guns the other cargos ordered

>Go and hide in maint for all this to blow over

>HoP chases me

>Starts flashing me & beating me with baton

>Nothing happens as I'm hulk but he will kill me eventually

>Beat him to a pulp

>Hide in locker

>Durand walks past

>Engineer comes straight to my locker and shoots me dead

>They all celebrate killing the traitor

>borg for the rest of round

>The other cargo techs turned out to be blood brothers

Such is life.

>>16351690

what a lying nigger. first of all you said it was a quartermaster that ordered it and there wasnt a QM. second i walk in and you ran like a nigger so i followed and you attacked me so i flashed you. at that point with all the shit going wrong i should have just shot you first then the rest of cargo. i did fuck up because my baton wasnt extended at first, but like half the server was traitor that round.

>>16351690

HoP was traitor anyway so it doesn't matter in the end if he was in the right or not!

God, how many poor blood brothers did I explode in departures?

How do people break into lockers? I've been using emitters but that seems shitty.

>>16351854

Emitters. Guns. EMPs. If you have a robust enough meelee or just a dickload of patience you can hit it a lot.

Combat knife opens a locker in 8 swings.

Crates are stupid robust though. You're best off just using emitters or rechargable guns on those.

>>16351860

Damn I was using the jaws of life expecting those to work fairly well against lockers seeing as how they forced their way though airlocks without needing to hack them but after hitting them about 50 times I just ended up nigging an emitter.

I'll have to keep that in mind for next time I need to get into a locker.

>notice ash liggers are getting murdered on lava wastes

>horribly outmatched by two max upgraded explorer suit miners

>dual KA's 2 hit liggers

>join the fight after all the other liggers had fallen unbeknownst to me

>fight lastests for about a few minutes

>manage to embed a spear in one miner aswell as get about 7 or 8 hits and throws in on the other

>run into the embedded one expecting him to move so he doesn't get memes

>lol no

>he face tanks it because maxed explorer suit

>both legs are blown off in one shot

>second shot kills me

>in deadchat "sorry I couldn't manage to win that"

>"dude you're robust as fuck"

>"you managed to hold your own against two dual KA's man, dont worry about it"

>tfw you get that pang of pride when someone is impressed by your robustness even after all these years

I love you faggot, thanks for makin' me smile

>>16351897

Aside from a lit welder, tools by themselves do like no damage. And you can't use a welder on a locker anyway, you'd just…weld it. If you /really/ need into that locker and have a lot of time to kill, a toolbox works, but like. That's not reccomended.

Are explosions nerfed?

>>16351946

It sure feels like it.

Four bluespace beaker bombs and the station patches them no trouble. Medbay's still mostly intact.

>>16351946

Yes when compared to our old codebase, a lot of things changed the way they calculate so you'll need to do things differently.

>>16352611

You only need thrusters on one side.

Tcomms room and the AI room itself could be much smaller, there's no point having a room/shuttle that large.

It should be positioned either where it directly connects to Engineering or where it directly connects with Command to follow (old) NT regulations.

Liquid plasma isn't particularly deadly even if it's cold for that kind of defensive structure.

AI can just be broken in through the south and it's completely helpless against everything as the lasers can't teach assailants and will just target the AI itself, place them at each side of the AI core but keep the AI core exactly where it is.

Consider expanding the area that is "liquid plasma" to be 2 tiles, while reducing the actual size of the rest of the room and the shuttle structure as it seems to be a lot of needless space, remember that tcomms machinery only requires, at least, 3 computers in the control room and around 12-14 machines in the server room.

>>16352629

Don't particularly need thrusters at all, it's really just aesthetic, as if it was once moved into place with said thrusters. I might just shrink it and make it telecomms only and do something else for AI. Maybe I'll put it on an open platform in space surrounded by turrets. I was going to do a ring of lava but that is probably not thematic.

Why isn't telecomms ever in a somewhat reachable place? It's always remote and heavily guarded

>>16352720

Its heavily guarded because its considered a vital aspect of the station running smoothly and is the #1 communication method. It already goes down often enough on the server with engineering getting fucked off the bat and not making power, now imagine if it was also easily accessible to traitors to just shut off or fuck with. Besides, with how its set up at round start you shouldnt ever really need to fuck with it anyway except to sabotage it or repair it if its been previously sabotaged or a rogue asteroid.

>>16352873

The number is the number of people with that job.

>>16352873

People who have signed up in that slot, either at roundstart or otherwise after the round has started.

>>16352720

Anyone can just waltz in and turn off the APC then, or use a multitool on any machine, rendering the entirety of all earpiece radios mute at the drop of a hat. Almost nobody knows how to repair them except a few autists too, so it's imperative to keep it functioning for as long as possible.

>They fixed the stupid thing you can do with plasma batteries and stunprods

I hate Nu TG

>>16353394

all of nu-tg's changes are shit.

server going down for updates for 5 mins or so.

for those who didn't catch the memeo

>you seemed too unrobust to even first time as captain

Yeah, probably was a poor choice. I'm pretty retarded at this

server's back

holy fuck that was fast

>>16353720

>>16353717

That's SS13 baby!

>find a stunrod, figure "hey, what could go wrong"

>watch as SE calls shuttle and dissemble the console for it, high tailing it out of there

>this taste.jpg

>"GUYS CAPTAIN IS ROUGE"

>see him on the shuttle, figure i zap him for shits and giggles and make him sweat

>stunrod was actually a bomb

>wipe out everyone

>end up cucking him

>>16353717

>no reason

Nigger you called the shuttle and disassembled the console for it in front of me. On top of accusing the captain of being rogue when he was slapping a mime around for trying to get into his office.

>>16353732

Did you not listen to the HoP? Or anyone? It was unanimous that the Capt was attempting to nuke the station. At least if you listened to the HoP, I simply egged her on.

Also

>Disassemble the console

I just unscrewed the screen, hardly disassembling anything, I just wanted to slow the Captain down in case he attempted to stop the shuttle and actually nuke the station. Odds are he wouldn't have a screwdriver on him, and why would you be following me onto the bridge in the first place? You were a bloody janitor.

>>16354114

I remember this image. Please no.

What's with the new intent mechanic on nuTG? Go from Help to Disarm and you're suddenly a shovelord. Was Grab grappling too much for their soy wrists?

I don't know about anywhere else, but on BeeStation, Disarm puts you in a statuary stance like a mime wall and you bowl cunts whatever direction to click.

>>16354776

It's more about the memories of ChaosYourGod

>>16354919

Reminded me I need to test disarming, seems like it works different in /tg/code to how i'm used to it working in pizzacode.

>>16354949

I've been traversing the high pop servers. Not sure if it's just that, didn't see it in the changelog so may be specific to Bee. Been a thing since around about yesterday.

What is the changelog of what you are fixing from nuTG?

I have to know, if it's 02/30 cunts. I'm not going to be the retard doctor. I'll just start hacking TGUI and n.

Cry cry about no medical. Even the newfags on BeeStation are learning. What would happen if you found a head?

Those digits are for the surgeon.

>>16355553

>>16355555

>>16355556

>Tripleposting

>can't practice dying to megafauna without wasting a job slot

>>16354919

for as long as i can remember, help has been the only intent that lets you move past people

my memory might be faulty on that, though

>>16355559

Correct, and you couldn't even get.

>>16355653

This is like looking at FilthyFrank and that mudkike nipkike all at once. True hapas mind.

>>16355942

loss?

>>16355961

yea

>>16355961

4um

Here is what I have noticed in player types in my time since playing, I'm pretty new. .

>The brand new guy

NewGuy has smacked himself in the head with the Donk pocket

"How do I feed myself?"

Hes super new and has no idea what to do . That being said hes pretty cool to pal around with, just don't expect him to save you when you get critted. Up for just about anything since its all new to him and superbly trusting, for better or ill. Can be fun to give chainsaw arms and watch him saw people in half when trying to click them to drag them to safety. He will screw up and pick a department head or the AI to play as he joins a round. Will Rp as a nigger at some point.

>The Normal guy

"sup faggot"

Nothing really stands out about this player, maybe a new player who has leaned the ropes or just a regular player of station. Understands his jobs and can preform them. May or may not RP. If bored can be roped into schemes.

May go and get drunk at bar and ready woodys god wood over comms. If trator will do what hes gotta do, may not be super quite about it.

>The RPer

"Reporting for duty"

Pretty cool guy, knows his shit and enjoys station. Can make a boring shift fun depending on his job. Make great PDAs and borgs or just a guy to play with, provided you can get into it. If traitor will kill only his mark and get on the shuttle Scott free.

>the Lizard

"We lizardssss are good people and would never harm othersssss"

Will kill you, do not trust. All lizards are niggers and those who play them do it ironically despite the fact that they are scaleyfags in real life. Do not listen to mods, these players are ALWAYS valid.

>The autist

"beep"

Plays mommi, makes deathtraps when bored. Can be cool guys until he shoves you into his wild ride. No one will save you as they fear the mommi and accept that sacrificing a crew member to him once in a while is just a fact of life and as long as he is sated like a vengeful volcano god, he will not blow the station. Might not talk much if he ever goes human although you may be able to pull him out of his shell. Easy to confuse with belligerent autist because this fact. If traitor expect a bomb, they understand the game systems and appreciate the high efficacy of detonations both for their lethality and the confusion it causes.

>The Belligerent autist

"…"

Doesn't talk. Plays worlds shittiest PvP game. Obvious when they are antag as will ignore playing talking to them and continue doing what ever task they have assigned themselves too. If not antag will still play as if he is one. Every attack, no matter how small is a slight on them and warrants you beat to crit, and if the opportunity presents itself, shoved out an airlock. Always metagames, enjoys chem or science access to make it easier to make things to kill others. Only usefulness is learning how to be robust from them by getting robusted. They play with themselves, not others.

>>16356201

You could probably go by job and make a breakdown based on them. I mean fucking just look at Sec:

>Incompetent Sec: Probably was randomly assigned to the job and has no fucking idea what to do. Will ignore all requests for help and will rarely intervene with crime. Basically a scarecrow

>Shitsec: 12 year old with a powerboner just throwing their weight around. Not too different from kids who buy mod in other games.

>Regular Sec: Does a servicable job, but will constantly be harassed by players IC and OOC, because of actions of the other two or just by doing their job. Basically police officers in real life.

>>16356201

there's also the rare mommi who makes an entire second somewhat functional bar in space just because he can that may or hopefully may not usually be me

>>16356201

You're too new to even do this. The new guy almost crits himself with a lighter after someone tells him how to put a cigar in his face hole without telling him how fire works.

I just had a marvelous idea that could make its own wiki page and a job less meaningless.

>>16356454

The scrubber in the chamber is set to filter only CO2, go to the air alarm to change the gas type(s) you want to suck out.

>>16356454

TG changed how atmos works and combusts so when it gets inside the room, instead of being per-tile and there being a small quantity of Plasma and Oxi in the chamber that does heat to 9000c it all instantly converts to flammable CO2 once it lights up and only reaches up to 3800-4000c. If you want a good burn, use temperature exchanging pipes in the burn chamber and hook up a plasma canister to it so the plasma inside the canister heats up with the constantly burning CO2 mix.

>>16356522

Oh wow, I would have never thought of that, thanks.

>>16356533

So you're saying that I should hook up a plasma canister to the output of the plasma and oxygen mix?

>>16356552

No. Place temp exchanging pipes through the burn chamber, as if it were a space cold loop, and run plasma inside the temp exchanging pipes to get a clean superheated plasma mix. Requires you to actually build some loop in the burn chamber before you fill it with the 66-33 and to turn off the scrubber.

I've been thinking about the changes that have come with tg from pizza.

I hate playing chemist in tg, being able to store my creations in the advanced chem machine to create a massive database of chemicals to have at my disposal has spoiled me.

Otherwise Medbay feels pretty much unchanged in tg, and it's pretty boring as a result

Engineering has the SM shard at roundstart and has the option of the Tesla Coil. Which is interesting but Tesla never sees use because the SM is the default and why wouldn't you use it? The SM provides far more depth than the Sing for engineers, although it's far easier for traitors to ruin the station if engineering isn't experienced.

Changes to Mining is fun, so is cargo, although removing cargos ability to order stuff at will has the knock on effect of making Cargo significantly weaker at dealing with station threats, yet working with the station to clear bounties is very enjoyable.

Which brings me onto Science, which is now godly at dealing with station threats, science seems to be hugely buffed in tg, they seem to have gone from having partial research & 1 mech at best to having guaranteed full research & 2-3 durands. It's pretty crazy. I guess not having to spend materials at round start helps?

I've yet to play science so I'm not sure what the root cause of it is, but I guess I'll figure that out in due course.

>>16356807

They passively gain research points, sometimes at ridiculous speeds. This lets them click on research to just have that research. Turns out toxins can generate points by exploding bombs and I think it would be better if stuff like that, xenobio, etc. where the only ways to make research points instead of just getting them passively. I agree it is pretty crazy how many rounds it has comparatively been where there's at least 1 or 2 durands to end-round murderfun where before that was a rarity.

>>16356807

>>16356875

Xenobio is also very robust and can do a whole lot of fun shit if they know what they're doing (reading the wiki page). I think a good portion of what makes robotics so good now is its easier to get research for the mechs and theres less competition over materials from mining. If someone competent is handling research and theres at least one miner who does a decent quick run down to lavaland and back, you can start upgrading things to T3/T4 parts in about 10-15 minutes which is a real boost.

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as an idea's guy, I think a fun / annoying thing to slow research down and make it so you feel like you're doing something, instead of just hitting a button to learn something, is to have a mini game, where you have to do like, connect the pipes, or rotate the puzzle pieces, or solve a math problem, and when you accomplish that, then it unlocks the research, with harder research needing harder puzzles. I know that's not something that can be implemented, but it would be cool.

Medical, it would be nice to have more surgeries, stuff like Leg enhancements to make people run faster, or arm nerve things to make people punch harder. I'd really like to be able to, as a surgeon, turn someone into a Space Muhreen, with all of the advanced replacements and everything that makes them super strong, and the most threatening, most terrifying humans to deal with. I'd like to see spiders or something happen more often, or that if a round has lasted more than two, or two and a half hours, that the round starts getting bigger and bigger threats to deal with. Thinking of stuff for engineering, I don't know how you could implement it, but making it so that temperature regulation was a bigger deal with be cool too. Having radiators be thing you have to watch and set, so that every piece of equipment, and person, generates heat, and heat builds in the station, and you have to vent the heat, or if the station is getting cold, shut off the radiators and build heat, and have that tied to a day/night cycle. That would be pretty cool… or maybe not.

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>>16356875

It should also be said that they added a "Bluespace Ore Silo" machine, that automatically links the ORM, all departmental protolathes and circuit imprinters, to whatever the miners dig up instantly, meaning Science does not need to walk up to the ORM to get materials.

Though, that science was buffed? Absolutely not. It was decisively nerfed in what sciencists can get out of R&D and they even entirely removed Telescience. They only get certain materials from their Protolathe that only they get, like Science Googles, Bags of Holding, advanced Machine Parts and RPEDs. Meanwhile other departments get their own protolathes that can actually give the rest of the tech you can purchase in R&D.