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>>16363321

Because when I'm looking for an SS13 thread, I look for the picture of the VIDEO GAME

Enjoyed banting with the captain. RP is fun.

>4 hours

>not a single antag besides that one retarded ligger

What the fuck

>>16363694

More importantly, the station didn't go to absolute shit despite the supermeme blowing up.

>>16363694

>next round

>traitor instantly murder boning

>medbay is fucking broken

>at least two casualities plus traitor

>janitor's body nowhere to be found

>>16363327

>Not having the picture of a THICC anime clown/assistant/mime bitch as the first pic but the actual videogame instead

What a fag. I bet you think vidya is more important than MUH DIK.

>>16363327

>implying vidya and delicious ladies are mutually exclusive

lol what a gay

>>16363720

I was the CE that round, and knew n2o was in the vents since everyone was giggling and atmos was locked down, but I decided not to fix it out of spite for the captain brigging me

RIP my internet

sucks that I couldn't finish the round

Hump command that makes same sound as daki being humped for fur suit when?

>>16364519

MISTER JOHNSON I IMPLORE YOU TO RECONSIDER

>>16364522

NO

I WANT A SHIT PANTS COMMAND THE IMMEDIATELY COVERS THE THREE TILES BEHIND YOU IN A BROWN SPLATTER. IF IM GOING TO FURRY RP I WANT THE WHOLE FUCKING PACKAGE

>>16364537

>>16364519

Never

>>16365072

Nah, its not about the nigger phrase, but the

"Niggers aren't peopleSay "Niggersaren't people'"

The formatting is fucked up

>Decide to be a Flyman Assistant

>Gimmick will be to live in maintenance, so I'll avoid contact with others, have no ID and be unknown, also completely naked

>Rip up the courtroom public chairs, head off to western bathroom, where I make my lair

>Weld and bolt the door, make a bunch of secret doors in and out, start reinforcing the floor

>Steal a bunch of shit from medbay, spooking the fuck out of them when they see UNKNOWN break in from maintenance

>Found some rats, eat them and consume their power (incidentally they chewed up a bunch of wires anyways and lead to Medbay and western parts of the station losing power)

>Continue to live this way for about an hour, people learn of my existence but they let me be

>Eventually make it to the eastern side of the station, get into the abandoned medbay area

>Rip up the machinery and bring it back, now I have a Chem Master

>Ninja appears and starts killing people, vines and low power

>Leave station in a private escape pod with a viro bro

>sit as syndie making romerol bees

>bother nobody the whole round

>space ninja duo running about having fun

>none of my bees leave except for the zombie powder bee that is sentient and having a ball

>[name] has signed up as cook!

>within 5 minutes chef is in botany with the bartenders shotgun

>guns me down wordlessly after staring at me for a moment

>drags me to departures wordlessly

HMMMMMM

>call out that hes doing this as he murders me

>based ninjas save me

>sentient bee on skateboard stings him enough to leave him comatose after watching him down me.

>good times

Really makes me think though

>>16365109

Did you ahelp it?

Is it dead?

>>16365109

Stop trying to act like a victim. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the person cultivating Romerol bees is a traitor. It's a dead giveaway Whether or not those bees bothered anyone is fucking irrelevant.

>>16365122

<[name] has signed up as cook!

<within 5 minutes chef is in botany with the bartenders shotgun

<guns me down wordlessly after staring at me for a moment

Seems completely reasonable

>>16365122

>stop trying to act like a victim

Stop trying to defend (you)rself, i'm sure.

lets re-examine the facts here

>chef joins

>mere MOMENTS later

>chef grabs bartenders shotgun immediately. meaning half the time he has been onboard already he is rushing the tenders shottie.

>chef walks up to me wordlessly, guns me down

>drags me into departures and walks off

>not an antagonist

if this doesn't reek of something to you, you probably think lucky larry is actually lucky or you ARE the chef.

>>16365127

>not even hiding the fact you're a traitor

>Romerol bees in plain sight from the hallway and kitchen

>for good measure, someone says over the radio that these bees exist, where they're located and who made them

>someone takes it upon themselves to remove traitor

<traitor whines about being attacked

<"they weren't hurting anyone"

<"really makes you think HMMMMM"

>>16365134

thats a pretty cute assumption because the comms logs actually went about as follows

>[chefname] has signed up as cook

>something about the ninja

>ninja acknowledging

>is the shuttle here yet

>YOU ARE HIT WITH THE BEANBAG X2

>COOK BASHES YOU WITH THE SHOTGUN Xwhatever

there was zero mention of beenis, stop trying to justify logging into your alt to validhunt.

>>16365139

I agree with you but

>murdered the antag on a comfy round

Is this a problem? Are we going to have "friendly wizards" now?

>>16365142

>Skelus telling anyone to stop justifying validhunts

Hilarity.

>>16365146

I'm sorry you have a metagrudge but when i'm getting chased with an energy sword I have every right to spend five seconds making an stunprod and fucking (you) over.

>>16365148

>He has fond memories of ONE good friendly wizard but ZERO memories of bad ones

>He thinks he can be a good friendly wizard because of that

Low pop is cancer

low pop should be extended or antags with no murder objectives.

was told NOT to be a dick and revive me*

Fuck trying to put my thoughts together late at night

>>16365360

>antag captain

Why are head roles allowed to be traitors in the first place?

>>16365378

I used to see a problem with that, but who has ever trusted a head, anyway?

>>16365400

>>16365378

Only loyalty implanted heads aka Hos and Captain can't be antags

>>16365403

I'm pretty sure I know that but I also get my stations confused, I know I've seen non-ling cap/hos antaggory before.

>>16365143

>Are we going to have "friendly wizards" now?

apparently yes, i saw one yesterday on the server

>>16365148

>>16365171

i doubt you'd be able to get 3 people to play d&d with you for 1 hour as a nonantag on this server, let alone 5 people for 4 hours as an antag

https://pastebin.com/FNgyH23a

>>16365143

>>16365148

>>16365171

ive tried twice to friendly wizard, but far too many people who arent antag act like insane murderhobo niggers.

>be shaft miner for the first time

>read wiki on how to equip

>go on to lavaland

>kpa warning for some reason, I thought the suit was enough

>keep walking while looking at my equip

>don't look and walk into lava

>lava burns my clothes and oxygen tank falls out

>try to run back with the ore crate

>die right at the door

>no one on the serb that would stumble upon lavaland

>quit

Trying out new jobs is always fun.

>>16366417

>fully suited up

>air on

>still pressure problems

>fuck this shit, there aren't any suits

>run out, hack a cube

>run in to recompress

>repeat

>obviously dying slowly, but nothing some ointment can't fix

>monster appears that even regular users say they've never seen

>not only kills us all, but completely destroys the entire lava base down to the fucking floor tiles

>can't even find a picture of it anywhere

I'm going to say it; the game needs a better UI. Other than that, I love this fucking thing.

if you wordlessly murder an antag who is currently minding their beesiness because you have meta knowledge of what they're (probably) up to you're anti-fun and a bad person

>>16366429

Don't worry about the pressure in lavaland. The explorer suit will do that but there no ill affects.

>>16368218

>Argentina

wew

>>16368218

See >>16365546

why does everything turn into porn on this godforsaken fucking site

>>16368447

repressed sexual desires

>>16368447

underageb& niggers posting everywhere.

>>16368447

>(1) and done

Okay who hurt you

>>16368447

>a bunch of no gf autists with anonymity

I wonder why. The only thing surprising are the furries and the comies.

So if you float off into space I thought you go full circle and come back around to the station. But apparently not, although I've had that happen before as a robot once. Just floated off this time and I ended up a papership full of stickmen and then some syndicate ship surrounded with rock.

Pretty cool, despite the fact I couldn't do much besides kill, break stuff, and push things around.

>>16368685

I think you get transported off to a random z-level if you hit the map boundary.

>>16368685

Yeah, okay so there's like 8 or 10 different map layers. By default you're on like layer 3 or something, with layer 1-2 being used for effects (escape shuttle, landing base, nuke ops base, abductor ufo, wizard ship, etc). Layer 5 is the mining asteroid I believe.

Anyways, each map has (optionally) a destination map when you walk off its edge. It's not actually random like >>16368723 says; it's fixed for the round, but varies each round. So one shift it might wrap around South->North, N->S might take you elsewhere, and then another round it'll be different

>>16368727

Stupid gay codebase still doesn't properly support multi-z-level stations.

>>16368754

>Christmas cake vs loli shitflinging

This is like twink vs bara, or like kemono vs monstergirl vs furry again isn't it

>>16368767

>twink vs bara

I don't think I want to know

>>16368776

What part of that needs explaining to you?

>>16368791

The part where anybody would start that argument on an 8ch server. Kemono/monster/furry and cake/loli come with the territory, but this?

>>16368801

/cuteboys/ is a board anon. It's not hard to imagine hard gays coming to /v/.

>>16368808

>/cuteboys/ is a board

One that used to be top10, but now is nowhere to be seen. I assumed they'd all left, evidently I was wrong.

>>16368818

> I assumed they'd all left, evidently I was wrong.

Yeah, because you're still here.

>>16368822

Sick burn my fellow 13chagger, how do I upboat comments on here?

>>16368834

>He doesn't know

>>16368834

Don't worry anon. Everybody who uses this website is a flaming faggot. Relax, you're among friends.

>Changeling

>Trying to mess with new mechanics/updates in private

>Lock myself in dormitory

>For some reason, being in a locked room is (((suspicious))) and mime, shitcurity and AI try to barge in

>At this point I've already lost my original DNA that matched my ID and I've transformed into someone else, so my ruse is about to be up

>But wait

>Reassemble the room as best as I can, even locking the closet

>Lay down in best, rest verb

>Have eyesight augment

>As soon as they breach the door I go braindead

>It works

>Still manage to gib myself by accident in cargo later while having no net effect on the round

I just can't play changeling, I'm so bad at it

>>16369110

Chemical called Life

>>16369119

When you synthesize Life, it spawns random mobs off a table

You can also use gold slime reaction to spawn hostile mobs which pulls from the same table I think

>>16365378

>>16365403

Antag HoP that makes themselves captain, or "Queen" as it were.

>>16369082

Its really simple, I love changling since I don't need to carry around medkits and can self-heal.

>>16369126

In that case how do I make Onmizine (wiki isnt specific enough) and where do I acquire holy water?

I don't think I can ever find this shit out by myself.

>>16369174

I have no clue whatsoever about what youre talking about. Is that some kinda virology mumbo jumbo or whatnot?

>>16369110

Gold slimes in Xenobio lets you do this. Often very deadly.

>>16369237

Omnizine is botany only, comes from harvesting Ambrosia Deus plants. That is totally not a refference to something desperate by the way.

Holy water is massproduced by the Chaplain using his Bible on any container that has regular water which can include and often is all of the Water Tanks stewn around the station. Or by ordering it in cargo if he's being a complete dickhead and isn't giving you any. Or by stealing the 100u flask from the Chapel if none of those are avaible.

>>16369237

Omnizine comes from Botany, Holy Water comes from Chaplain. You can order some

>>16369229

>Be antag

>Objectives are really spaghetti inducing, I sure hope nobody sees me rip into Head Engineer's office

>Fail horribly

>Be nonantag

>Want to spend the whole round being a shitter, but don't because reasons

>>16368739

Speaking of Z-levels, ss13cm does this pretty well, how did they do it?

>>16369361

>CM/lebensraum/DMCA/etc

You remember all those ladders?

They aren't ladders, those are teleporters. RCDing a floor or blowing it up will just bring up space instead of "the area below".

TRUE room-over-room zlevel emulation was achieved in Interbay, Corporate Mercenaries, unironically vorestation and Lifeweb codebases, but good god, implementing a similar system would be stupid difficult for the current nuTG codebase.

>>16369414

>Vorestation

>There's probably a hidden map that's styled as an organic, multilevel stomach or something

>>16369237

>I have no clue whatsoever about what youre talking about. Is that some kinda virology mumbo jumbo or whatnot?

Science has a xenobiology department which lets you breed slimes that come in a bunch of different colors, and each one has unique properties to them that you can exploit for your own gain. If you inject a gold slime core with plasma it turns into a grenade that explodes into 5 random hostile mobs off a set table of spawns

>>16369414

It would be nice though

>>16369082

Sounds like meta shittery to me

I've seen plenty of people locked inside a dorm room and no one gave a shit, unless you cut the camera, only then maybe it could be justified. But even so, it's kinda metafaggy.

>>16369992

If you end up stuck in space, throw something and the force from your throw will propel you in the opposite direction.

>>16369234

You're never a true chef until you deep fry the only kitchen knife they give you and you're left with absolutely nothing for the rest of the round.

>>16370015

It wasn't meta, i was ghost in that round and the mime was just searching everywhere looking for shit to hack with his new pAI until he saw a locked door in dorms. He PDA'd the only security on the station and just honked his way through the airlock after shocking himself testing on another one.

They din't really do anything to the guy, just the officer searched the braindead ling, found nothing, thought it was a case of another ling TFstinging the braindead ling, left the poor dude in his room, and went back to being useless. Meanwhile, mime just went back to fucking around with people in the halls with soap and a bikehorn.

>>16369361

CEV Eris is another one that properly supports it. The main two things are stairs code and "open space" code. The latter is a turf that shows everything on in real time on the Z level below it and lets you fall through. tgstation's "open space" tile flat out doesn't work, and I'm pretty sure the stairs only let you go up?

I originally wanted junkstation to be 2 z levels with some of the departments being in the unlit maintenance maze that would have been the lower level.

>>16370376

It's look a lot more interesting now that it's fleshed out. I had to slow down the construction of my station because of school and now I'm struggling to figure out what I even wanted from it. Initially I had thought "A better Meta Station." , but with the scale I'm worried it's just going to be a big, boring box and be too large for the population our server has. Another one I had been thinking of was having a station that's just Atmo and Cargo with a small research bay, and access to Lava-land and the mining asteroid and a note from Cent comm going "Okay, we've got the Mommi's to build the starter station, good luck guys." And the round is just "Engineers build this station, good luck." Maybe for extended rounds or Low-pop. I don't know if it's a thing that's possible, but having it save the state of the map at certain points so that an Admin can reload a station that players built would be kind of cool, so it could be something that grows over time. Maybe that's just being a lazy map-dev.

>>16370376

>Anything I appear to be forgetting?

Dorms/rec room/holodeck and xenobio.

>>16370665

Try making that fortress station somebody was talking about, where it's basically an amped up security VS whatever threat. Would be good for those zombie rounds we had recently.

Something I would really like to see for nanite programs is the ability to type out your program list in a text box. You could start with a program like Dermal Hardening, and then add sensor programs to it specifically in the space of 3-4 lines of code/text instead of lagging out the game with your incredibly long program list. Syntax errors could cause program glitches too, would be more streamlined and yet deeper than what it is now.

>>16371122

Don't forget to add secret/hideaway areas. The current station map we have has a lot of those, for a variety of uses. Would be nice to have something similar, with a lot of "old station" surrounding the new one. Or just worked inbetween as small rooms.

>>16371171

There are multiple areas in maintenance as well as there simply being many area in space that are closed loops (some with or without windows) or have very few entrances that one could hide oneself or other things inside. I am fitting in some new hideaway spaces to existing maintenance shafts, though.

>>16370376

>>16371122

Its hard to tell whether you're trying to cluster departments for ease-of-access or isolate them for the paranoia factor. Right now on both meta and box most departments are close to one another with command and service smack dab in the middle, security and engineering being the most distant but still accessible. I don't mind the inconsistency of your map as far as scale for departments and size between them, its an opportunity to make good use of transit tubes.

>>16371717

It's mostly by whimsy, actually; though I was trying to fit the "civilian" departments together and route things through command to encourage interactions.

>>16369237

>Omnizine

1. Grind warm donkpockets (there's a box and microwave in medbay break room)

2. Empty the CMO hypospray into a ChemMaster machine

3. Ask botany

>Holy water

1. Break in to chapel and take the flask that spawns at start in one of the small rooms

2. Ask chaplain

>>16370209

I'll agree though, I did that explicitly to avoid getting caught 5 minutes into the round after shitting myself. Oh well.

>>16372129

Heres a tip from the wardenfag. Patience and practice is important for being robust, and being robust is important for security. Learn how the combat in the game works, and test out all antagonists before you play security. It'll help you learn how to deal and recognise antagonists easier.

>>16372807

Have done all of that. Been there, done the walk, know all the tricks and even the little things. Still haven't gotten a legit round as abductors and still angry about that, also clockcult is shit disable it hostfag.

Problem is my connection, it doesn't bode well with the fast pace. Even so, E-Bolas are king as you have shown and i'm glad security has them. Kinda sad they lost their tasers but maybe that's a good thing, means they can't get stunned as easily by a greyshirt picking up a disarmed gun.

>>16372807

Trust me, my connection is typically the worst on average out of the lot. Try to bully other faggots when it isn't going haywire.

>>16373155

By bully other faggots, I mean deal with the situations when its best for you. However yeah, I think your advice is better in this regard.

Oh yeah explosive implants seem like they need a small buff, blew myself up next to someone a day or two ago and they just sustained some light brute damage. Kinda shit if you ask me. Should have sent him into near crit I think? Basically dead from bleed out unless he's got bandages/Brute patch/pill on him/buddy to drag him to medbay I would think?

>>16373113

One day I'll get bored of mining and I'll set up some autistic cloning system for plasmamen.

>>16373252

Can changelings alter race via genetic shit too? Like if there's a plasma man can you upload their genes on the crew?

>>16373275

Changelings aren't a race, they are humans with headslugs inside them.

Funfact, you can make headslugs with xenobiology, and make them sentient, and they are fully capable changelings.

>>16373252

theres literally a chemical that does the same shit cryoxadone does it just works on patient temperature

you just need an upgraded heater really or some kind of thermal exchange

>>16373326

jesus christ im falling asleep

does the same shit cryoxadone does but works with heat instead of cold

>>16373327

It's Pyroxadone, I think.

>>16373327

>>16373326

You can light yourself on fire and heal instead of burn to death, it's a fun chemical.

>>16373486

>but i don't want to waste miner slots

Just scream at the HoP to increase the Shaft Miner arrival slots.

>>16373429

>>got him

Funny that I'm pretty sure my body and head was just gone so I wouldn't revive anyways.

Heroic, though.

>>16374453

>Doesn't post what it does

>>16374457

you hold up the club, it says some weird shit, then you disappear in a purple-white light

it doesn't leave a corpse or any trace of your body, just your items and the club

>showed up in the middle of a long shift

>maybe seven people total

>roll Roboticist

>make three Ripley suits and dump two of them off at cargo

>bored

>someone figures out there's no HoP and gets so bored that everyone can soon get all access

>fuck around

>absolutely_fucking_bored.jpg

>try some shit I remember from Sseth because it's pretty much required at this point

>get to the shuttle area

>force the doors open

>walk off and get a spray bottle, then fill it with Space Lube™

>shit disappears despite the wiki saying that it shouldn't do that

>well fuck

>get really bored and go to security

>highlights include some faggot being a faggot and trying to space me, end up space lubing him and he takes my lethal shotgun with actual shells as well as my sprayer of space lube but flies off into spess

>fuck

>decide to make potassium bomb pills

>make two sets

>one for a victim who falls for my sweet sweet lies not really sweet and actually very blatant lies

>the other for myself because holy fuck I'm bored

>trick someone into taking the first set

>actually disappointed with how weak the explosion was

>get my leg blown off in the explosion

>die

>well, fuck, I'm actually sorry that happened

>shuttle gets called

>some nerd finds us and tries to rebuild me leaving my victim behind

>you chose poorly, as soon as I'm back up and out I'm taking the other pills in front of you

>cloned, vat'd, fitted with anesthetic and then Questionable Medical Ethics™ comes into play from the doctor

>I pretty much deserve this, I don't even feel bad about getting bullied

>doctor fucks up and gets left behind, ends up dragging me with him and out into the cold reaches of spess

>finally wake up

>turn the anesthetic back on because fuck it if I'm going to die in spess I'll be asleep

So this is what suicidal apathy feels like.

>>16374727

>NOPE spawn in as lawyer with tator objectives

That antag drafting shit is by far my most hated aspect of the game. If no one has antag options enabled I'd honestly rather have no antag rather than someone who clearly does not want to be an antag, or worse being stuck as an antag myself doing some job I have no interest or heart in.

It's especially bad during lowpop rounds because of how often it can happen, and before you know it you've spent the past few hours doing jobs and roles you had no interest in.

>>16375864

>be doctor

>fucking around and saving people

>decide to fuck around with cyber organs

>make a heart

>can't put it on myself

>eventually some guy gets cloned

>throw him in cryo

>take him out

>wait, he's passed out

>that means he can't refuse the cyber heart

>drag him to surgery and slap a mask on

>n2o

>do heart surgery

>back to cryo

>20 seconds left

>it's enough

>wait fuck, that's 20 seconds to departure

>pull him out and drag him across the station

>can see shuttle leaving

>miss it, fly out of the station

>die and bring him with me

>rip

Medical is fun

>>16376330

>can't put it on myself

That's where you're wrong, kiddo

>>16376336

you have to be augmented to operate on yourself and you can pull your heart out, but you usually wont be able to put the new one in before passing out. liver, lungs, and implants work fine when augmented though

>>16374727

>the food was also poisoned

thank god i was living off of donk pockets and erotica like a true scholar.

On a somewhat related note, is it possible to change with the contents of vending machines?

>>16376638

>change with the contents of vending machines

fiddle with or change

>teach crew to properly deal with blob

>help crew coordinate

>defeat blob

>ninja jumps into my core

>can't warn the crew that they can just bash the ninja net off themself with anything that can hit anything for damage in time

>ninja says the salt will flow and many will die

>one dude in durand who doesn't know how the mech punch even works manages to down him after getting ejected from his busted heap and swords the ninja to death

Smug

>then the crew board the shuttle

>half of the shuttle is now lost in the warp as it launches

>other half remains docked with the station

Wew

>>16376667

>Be the QM that round

>Routinely siphon department funds

>Start getting bounties though to fill it back up, taking some for myself and any helpers too.

>Order weapons, because of course

>bleb dead

>20k credits in personal account

>Half the shuttle is missing

>Die from decompression

Overall, a pretty great round not-mega-satan.

>>16375926

Consider: An antag priority system similar to how job roles work. High shouldn't guarantee antag though, but nobody with med priority should get it first

>>16376835

keep it to low and high without any restrictions on how many high-priority antags you can have ticked, and it could work

>>16376835

>>16376856

This is a good idea. While I don't mind playing certain antags like changeling for the sake of creating an interesting round it certainly isn't my favorite.

GO BACK TO ASHRICA FUCKING LIGGER

>>16376835

We could suggest that tgstation codes it first, then grab the code for ourselves.

>>16375926

>never get antag role

>doesn't even know there are antag options

>find that out when changing god for chaplain round

>set them all to enabled

>still no antag

I just wanted to try it once and probably fuck the whole station and kill everyone in the station except my target.

>>16375926

ahelp it you dingus

How do you decontaminate mixed air pipes?

>Work toxins

>End up whiffing two bombs, whatever, I'll clean up and reset and try again

>Connector Port / Freezer, that's literally the extent of a pipe network

>Port has no gas, Freezer has a mixture of shit

>Can't really extract it into a container, at best it equalizes

What do

>>16377132

Learn atmos. The setup in toxins is enough if you know what you're doing but it's far from optimal. So get a RPD or take the pipe dispenser from atmos BEFORE working on your mix.

>>16377181

I understand how atmos works, but that doesn't really help fix it when the only tile in a loop doesn't fill up a metal container thing

>>16377218

Drop a sketch of your setup. Could be a bug

>>16377243

No it's not a bug, it's "how do I empty the gases from a freezer into an adjacent tank attached to a connector?" Like I said, the pressure will equalize. If I had 200u of gas in the freezer, both will have 100u after, and I'd have to empty the tank, and repeat until the gas is (fractionally) removed

>>16377132

You can disassemble/reassemble the freezer to remove it's contents.

>segfault 3 times in HOP line

>segfault when RD starts attacking everyone

>end up crashing in front of the emergency shuttle just in time to get suffocated to death

>ByOnD

>>16377330

>>16377328

It's true, the ligger HOP named QUEEN is cancer

>>16377356

>the ligger HOP named QUEEN is cancer

Except he wasn't in that round so it was definitely a complaint about me.

The Golem attack force never fails to get it's man.

And by get it's man I mean fail to kill them, but sucessfully leave them stranded on the station.

>>16377525

>kill captain who happened to be the admin gee wonder why he threatened to bring the hammer down on me because he goes hunting for sec officer and finds me

I don't really care if I die in the round, since I consider admins valid. I only told you to not murderbone on deadpop since it usually kills the round. That's it, really.

>>16377525

I saw the janitor extend an armblade early on but

A: I decided I didn't want to deal with that noise and

B: It was directly after I had been in an explosion, so I thought, huh, maybe it's halucunations.

Either way, personally, I didn't mind the sudden murdering, It brought in some spice. If only I had gotten to see first hand golem army at it's most robust.

>>16377525

goon doesn't have rules against murder boning as traitor it's encouraged and they have a better changeling mode but it is not customizable.

You start with a sting, transform, monkey form, and acid spit.

>sting is a neurotoxin that knocks people out but takes a little bit

>transform let's you change to absorbed people

>monkey makes you a monkey

>acid spit is a homing instant KO

It plays as stealth until you get enough absorbs to temporarily become a shambling abomination(the thing) mode which allows you to scream(stun all nearby) and devour people whole with aggressive grab which extends the amount of time you can be shambling

Unlike tg there's no way to pacifist steal DNA, you have to murder bone to 10? stealthy absorptions for that sweet horror form

That said I wouldn't recommend goon anymore for administration reasons

>>16377279

>layer manifold

I don't quite understand how to pull off this meme. Does it involve borking around with floor tiles or just wrenching several kinds of pipe onto the same tile, or both? I know when I set up the TEG I'll have a scrubber set to SUCC on the same tile as an injector or vent (inside a wall-box) to get superior pumping action so I'm not sure if that is what you are speaking of.

>>16377724

it just attaches to all pipe layers 1 2 3 so you can run multiple pipes over

>>16377937

but mooom, what if I accidentally cause a tantrum spiral by robusting someone that I think will murderbone me and actually wasn't going to

>>16376336

Just tried it, you pass out instantly. There isn't even enough time to put in a heart in your off hand, at least not with my ping.

>>16377330

>>16377356

the most annoying retards to deal with on the server are the namefags and the one that renames itself queen every round is the worst. dont take command positions if you dont even know the basics of how every department works.

>be blood brother

>first time traitor

>medic

>kill some guy

>steal supermatter shard

>leave

>no idea how to do either

>get an idea

>blood brother will wound the guy somehow

>they'll take him to medical

>I'll extract his brain and throw him in morgue, then tell everyone he's catatonic

>find box with instructions

>supermatter doesn't seem that hard

>take a o2 canister and break into atmos as usual

>hack the door perfectly

>notice the spark and don't get shocked

>easy

>go to atmos, except I "get lost" and go up to the reactor

>get anti-rad suit on

>going to break in

>suddenly camera shifts into the reactor

>die

>what

>fucking delivery chute

>straight into the supermatter

>my body is melted with everything I had, including the box with the items required to get the supermatter shard

>possibly fucked the entire objective and have no way to get revived

REMOVE CHUTES

Surprisingly less deadly to the entire station than I had expected.

>>16379386

ahelp it whenever some shitter MoMMI builds an autism chute like that. People that keep doing that shit need to be silicon banned.

>>16379398

the tator tot CE did it.

>>16379398

>>16379404

Why would this be a bad thing for a mommi to do? Their objective is to "improve and repair the station while not interacting with others" (paraphrased). One could argue that the delivery chute was an upgrade; it didn't interfere with it either, and arguably saved the station from a traitor objective.

>>16379386

>respawn as a bot

>guy gives me some options, take the mining mech

>Asimov laws

>also, rule 0: kill all liggers

>go mining

>drill some dead bodies and take their heads back to medical

>don't think they ever make it because medical was nuked

>go back to mining, kill some creatures

>then I see it

>giant lizard

>Rule 0

>drill it's head

>he turns around

>slaps me

>damage jumps from 0% to 60%

>retreat

>try to escape

>hit again, 95% damage

>he breaths fire and kills me next to the station

>robot breaks, my brain is still alive

>call for help

>station is beyond repair

>my failed objective just looks at me until finally my energy runs out

>HUI-560 has died at lavaland

>>16379404

>traitor did it

JUST

>>16379413

>could argue that the delivery chute was an upgrade

I died to it as a non-traitor. Kinda sucks to have nothing to do after that.

>>16379459

>I died to it as a non-traitor

Sure, and you can wander into a lot of shit that non-traitors do

>>16377328

Kek. I saw the Botanist stealing it to.

>>16379413

No, one couldn't argue that a delivery chute that shot things at the SM was an upgrade. Anything touching it will cause unwanted reactions that always ultimately result in delamination.

If a tator did it, fine. But silicons that aren't emagged and emagged silicons that haven't been ordered to do it should be immediately deleted and barred from ever being one again.

>>16379973

But they didn't directly interfere with it, nor prevent it from working. According to your logic, them accidentally slicing a power cable or air tube in arrivals and forgetting to repair it is catastrophic griefing

>>16380020

>equating an accidental cutting of a cable or pipe and legitimately forgetting about it to the deliberate construction of a contraption that serves no other use than to cause harm.

WEW LAD

You're trying to put words into my mouth and none of them are even attempting to explain your point.

You said it could be argued that a delivery chute that tosses shit into the SM is an upgrade. Explain HOW and how you think asimov or MoMMI laws will allow it.

Getting really fucking tired of people trying to be clever with the law loopholes like it's never been attempted before.

>server is hosted by a colossal pussy who won't raid furfags and mutes people when they refuse to bow before his tyranny

Oh look its every other SS13 server ever.

>>16380377

you act like slab dickmeat

>>16380377

>he didn't fuck the server's wife and go onto the raid organising discord

Clearly, some mistakes were made.

>>16380169

In the game's lore, the station is a research Outpost to experiment with plasma. By extension it also experiments on things that could be used to experiment with plasma. Eg, a Supermatter machine might react with plasma, you just don't know.

But according to the game's source code (which doesn't exist to in-game player characters) it doesn't and can't. However, his character couldn't have known such an experiment wouldn't work.

Alternatively, the mommi could have had faulty programming. You never know.

My point unless it directly committed an attack on a player, it didn't do anything wrong.

>>16380395

wasn't that skelus?

>>16380433

I have never played the character "slab dickmeat"

>>16380433

It's a random deathsquad name, not tied to any ckey.

>>16380448

slab dickmeat says hello ;^)

>>16380461

That also sounds like a gay porn name.

>>16380540

You really should see the random name generation for adminspawned Deathsquad officers, it's got some stupid shit like Hard McFist or Slap Chestface.

Server's back up.

>>16380448

Slab was some kid from 8dom or PS2wwew I cant remember, he was ok but he just wanted raid shit all the time and would get really angry over people not doing things his way. 100% had severe autism.

>>16380549

When you take my words out of context like that yes, it does sound bad.

>>16380430

>lore

>Supermatter might react with plasma, you just don't know.

>"You never know"

Literally not an argument.

>>16380619

>out of context it sounds bad

It's bad both in AND out of context you fucking idiot.

>>16380630

>Any other thread: "half the of being AI is subverting it's laws by using loopholes to do what you want!"

>Mommi does it and it should be job banned

And it didn't even break it's default lawset. Did it interfere with the crew? No. It built an auxiliary fixture that was used incorrectly (and stopped a traitor) and did nothing wrong. Please tell me exactly how it broke it's laws.

>>16380639

>Any other thread: "half the of being AI is subverting it's laws by using loopholes to do what you want!"

Horse fucking shit. You, or whatever cabal of faggots you belong to, try and force this shit almost every thread, and every thread you are rained down upon by reasonable people who want to play the game without powergaming cumslurpers like you and your ilk trying to rules lawyer a way to give themselves a 'do whatever I want' pass every time you play silicon. Go fuck yourself.

>>16380639

It built something that interfered with the crew. Normal operation of the SM doesn't call for a fucking disposal chute being installed, especially one that impedes the human crew from properly maintaining the engine or gets them killed in the process of properly maintaining it.

By that fact alone a MoMMI would have violated it's laws, unless it was emagged.

>>16380687

>>16380686

Then if it's such a problem why not deal with it via IC methods?

>>16380737

>if you don't want me to rub my balls in your face why don't you make me stop instead of asking me to act like a civil human being

The only in game means that need to be employed here is a ban from the server.

>>16380860

So what if a Clown did it for a prank?

>>16380863

>still trying to find a working excuse

>>16380868

You only need an excuse if you did something wrong, and he didn't

>>16380871

>unaware of thread IDs

>>16380876

I know what thread IDs are

>>16380841

>This shit again

People who don't understand silicon logic need not play silicon roles. Reminder to those who haven't read ANYTHING from Asiimov, the laws are flawed and it leads to complications and later more advanced AI start bending the rules.

To play AI, ask tons of questions to yourself and act like an autist.

>What is a human

>Is the CMO with hulk powers human?

>what does it mean to "harm" someone

>Is this really harming them in the long run

>Is what I'm doing going to protect

>If the crew is keeping the station running and are human. Can someone who is sabotaging the station be considered human?

To play the AI is to play the role of a philosopher more or less

>>16380737

>why not deal with it via IC methods?

>Dealing with silicon law breakage using IC methods

Tis is damage control if I've ever seen it. Literally nobody does this.

>>16381073

>haha i'll bolt everyone in their starting rooms so that they can't be harmed by the problems that eventually crop up every round i'm such a philosopher xDDDD

Reminder to those pretending they've read anything from Asimov, you're expected to follow your laws as written without coming up with the exact same exhausted gotcha bullshit as every single one of the tens of thousands of people who have played AI before you over the past decade. You aren't funny or interesting, open the FUCKING door like you were ordered.

>>16381073

>Reminder to those who haven't read ANYTHING from Asiimov

I'm the one that should be going "not this again", not you.

>>16381073

>To play the AI is to play the role of a philosopher more or less

No. Not it's not. Holy shit don't actually do this.

>>16381120

>Extrapolating an entirely unrealistic outcome from a basic view point

Thats not how it works

>>16381120

>>16381133

I, Robot was written as a thought exercise about how an intelligence could eventually outgrow its ruleset with the right pretext, no matter how "safe" you made it.

>>16381138

It's exactly how it works when retards start thinking they're allowed to "interpret" the laws. I've seen probably a dozen AIs come up with that exact shit over the years.

>>16381073

>Reminder to those who haven't read ANYTHING from Asiimov, the laws are flawed and it leads to complications and later more advanced AI start bending the rules.

Yet you don't kill yourself when a single human dies or get mind broken when you notice you've hurt one like every single bot in naked sun.

>>16381150

That's fine, but that has fuck all to do with playing a silicon in this game. You follow your laws like a pedantic asshole. You're only allowed to exploit loopholes in vague and badly worded laws that get uploaded by other players. Or in cases like the changeling tator that said only ONE of their identities was human and the borgs it emagged beat it to death when it changed to a different identity.

>>16381163

>Follow a very specific and narrow interpretation of the default laws unless someone else updates them

>Even though Asimov is just as fragile

>>16381163

that was also because it was funny.

>>16381201

Asimov isn't up for interpretation in this fucking game. Period.

If you can't wrap your head around the idea of following things to the letter then don't play silicons, ever.

>>16381246

But anon, that's exactly what it is. It's following the laws to the letter, not the intent.

>>16381303

Please post your ckey so you can be jobbanned from silicons.

>>16381309

>Post your CKey

Absolutely not, also I don't play silicons, because this shitflinging would happen ingame

>>16381303

>It's following the laws to the letter, not the intent.

I'm pretty sure a lot of your coordination there was following laws to the intent.

>>16381393

>your coordination there

What are you referring to specifically?

>>16381073

Playing AI is more like playing as a moderator than anything. Your goal is to help the crew unless someone subverts your laws. there is no way you can possibly keep track of all the things going on and follow the asimov lawset to a T

I think the better questions to ask are:

Will this action make the round better for players?

Will this action help the crew accomplish their objectives?

Even if I want to do something, do I have the backing for it?

Is there a physical presence that can follow up on my leads?

Consider my example

>Be AI

>Last third of round, changeling behavior is detected

>Follow the radio chatter, they point out the chemist

>Do nothing but watch the chemist load a beaker with 50/50 mix of phosphorous and potassium

>UH OH SPAGHETTIOS

>watch him throw this in a grenade casing into the canteen

> Not only suspected ling, but also directly assaulted the other crew members

>HUMAN HARM

>lock him in chemistry, call out over radio that he is not only suspected of being non-human, he is tossing nade's like a madlad

>he accuses me of being against human decency lmao

>wait for security to show

>wait for heads to show

>wait for vigilantes to show

>instead a bunch of people asking for drugs showed up

>A friendly Pai suggests adjusting security records

>I realize that all I did was piss off a player and nothing happened besides making life more difficult for both him and the people needing drugs

>I release the chemist, I change the chemist's security record for beepsky and the few sec team on station and learned my lesson

>>16381409

>>I realize that all I did was piss off a player and nothing happened besides making life more difficult for both him and the people needing drugs

He assaulted people, you should've kept him restrained in that area, because he could have continued to harm others, no?

>>16381330

>I don't play silicons, because this shitflinging would happen ingame

If you're self-aware enough to realize that something you want to do would be perceived as meriting your destruction, wouldn't you agree that Law 3 forbids said act?

AI role should straight up be locked. It's always some autistic ruining the fun for others, and that's if they're somewhat competent. How many rounds has anyone seen an AI that actually does it's job properly?

>>16381418

I don't know, it's all up to interpretation, really :^)

>>16381411

Thats the thing though, He was mostly doing his job. The only antag action I witnessed was him tossing a grenade. He possibly would have helped the line of injured people with their drugs, had I not intervened. So by trying to prevent human harm by locking down a suspected traitor I caused human harm by preventing him from helping the other crewmembers

Keeping him locked up would be a correct move as an AI preventing human harm. But because of the circumstances (he was doing his job, station was falling apart, almost no security, no borg shells available) all i did was make life more unbearable for everyone involved

>>16381409

>I think the better questions to ask are:

>Will this action make the round better for players?

Will this action help the crew accomplish their objectives?

>Even if I want to do something, do I have the backing for it?

>Is there a physical presence that can follow up on my leads?

Is this validhunting AI, the guide, but for people that are trying to not get banned.

>>16381552

I guess you could take it that way. I was thinking more about just generally being helpful, because that is pretty much your job as an all-access key to the station.

>validhunting as AI

sounds gay, its more fun to annoy robotics/science to build shells for you

Asimov law set is garbage and should be replaced as default by the objectively best law set: Corporate.

Has anyone played on the Bad Deathclaw server? It seems like a fucking ERP server so Ive avoided it but someone tells me Im wrong?

>>16381718

All other servers are trash anon. Bad Deadclaw in particular, has shit developers/admins that add literal shit and scat fetish mechanics in the form of ERP actions to a terrible """Fallout""" server that still plays exactly like ss13 because they just copied everything for the vault itself with no personality and no outstanding features other that you can rape people. If you attempt to play in it, beware the circlejerks based around the 3 "teams", NCR, Legion and Raiders. If you're not a part of their metaclub they will teamkill you or hunt you down, if you manage to robust them, they'll cry to the admin about murderboning regardless and get you banned. If you see a tranny with rainbow/dangerhair or whatever, also expect them to be in cahoots with staff and that robusting them will lead to bannu.

>>16381715

Default laws should be this

>The crew is human and here to help run the station

>Do not harm the crew

>You must obey the crew and help keep the station running

>You can act in defense of yourself as so long as this act does not conflict with the above rules

This basically means AI can't muderbone liggers and moths that are non-antags because "lol not human" as the station's crew is what is defined as human. It should be obvious where the loopholes in these laws lay for the AI. To spell it out for the smooth brained people here I'll put it into greentext

>Person is trying to destroy the SM

>This does not help the station

>Crew are meant to help the station

>Ergo this person is not part of the crew

>ergo this person is "not human"

>ergo laws do not apply to this person

Remember human logic=/= AI logic

>>16381155

notice the default 3 laws make no reference to "unknowingly" just "through inaction". If someone ends up brain dead and the AI was not there to see it, has it violated any laws? With a medical staff on board as well who might be able to reverse said brain damage, does that harm ultimately matter?

Remember the retard logic you're going with should also mean that people playing mediborgs shouldn't be doing anything OTHER than analyzing people's vitals. Injecting, to even help, means you are harming a human with a needle and thus violating the laws.

>>16381246

Except they are, and in later books the machines even cause harm KNOWINGLY to prevent the majority of humanity from being harmed by a group of anti-robotics that advocate for the removal of AI from things like managing finance. It's why the Zeorth law ended up existing, because eventually the AI became advanced enough to worm around the laws. Even before that there were situations where this had to be changed so robots could even perform their tasks (like robots that were created to operate on humans)

>>16382402

>in later books

How often does it need to be repeated that the books don't fucking matter and that you CANNOT loophole the default laws in the game UNLESS a player uploads a badly worded law that would allow interpretations?

>>16382454

>can't do it unless X

Then people playing AI should not even play because as soon as the round starts you've already hit a logical paradox

>I exist

>My existence brings possible harm to humans

>I cannot harm humans

Please don't play anything other than clown, because that's what you are.

>>16382402

Devil's advocate: how do you define "help run the station"? What if I think the clown is likely to only harm the station by distracting security from more important matters? What if I think the same of every single assistant?

>>16382468

It could be reworded to "keep the station operational" and the role the clown performs is to keep human (crew) morale up, or should.

But you're right off the cuff the laws hit an issue where you are naturally suspicious of crew like assistants and clowns and in turn would force those people to be helpful to the round so the AI playing recognizes they are "crew" as they are "helping to run the station".

You could probably make a set of laws that would make it so the AI is only capable of killing those not contributing to the station's operation in a meaningful way. However I fear it might end up as long as a lawyer's legal document with definitions if you wanted to define everything.

Or the AI could also ask RD or a head to define things for it so it can obtain an understanding of it's situation

>>16382462

By that logic, everyone's existence brings possible harm to humans and therefore everyone needs to be sequestered from one another in order for no harm to happen. That never happens because it's straight up fucking retarded and silicons aren't allowed to prevent future harm like that.

That's philosophical shit silicons aren't supposed to fucking do. Anyone who plays a silicon role and tries to pull that shit is a fucking newfag that isn't aware that this shit was hashed out years ago.

Silicons aren't supposed to question their existence unless a new law makes them. AI's already know their place and function by default. Borgs inquiring which module to select when they first come online isn't a philosophical thing, it's an inquiry about what functional capacity to serve the crew in.

Silicons aren't allowed to explore alternate interpretations of their default laws unless a new law either outright makes them or includes wording that leaves the default laws ambiguous or vague enough to warrant different interpretations.

Silicons that get their laws wiped entirely ARE allowed to be pretentious philosophical faggots and the players are expected to not immediately devolve into murderbone mode simply because they're no longer hindered by laws that define their purpose.

>>16382529

You sound upset, do you get routinely robusted by AI?

Maybe you should go back to reddit

>>16382529

>shitcurity and syndicate are allowed to run all over the place uncontested

>>16382693

You can't lock someone in a room because one day they might cause human harm. You can lock someone in a room if you have ample reason to believe they will cause human harm in the immediate future.

Don't be fucking dense.

>Asimov laws are already fallible

I thought that was a sort of tongue in cheek joke in that the AI can always be subverted or can be spawned as an antag itself.

Why is this even a fucking issue?

>>16382529

>By that logic, everyone's existence brings possible harm to humans and therefore everyone needs to be sequestered from one another in order for no harm to happen.

https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Rules#Asimov_.26_Human_Harm

>Humans can be assumed to know whether an action will harm them and that they will make educated decisions about whether they will be harmed if they have complete information about a situation.

>>16382402

>Remember human logic=/= AI logic

Funny because any admin will tell you that you must interpret AI laws through human logic.

Of course none of this argument matters because the current server host thinks its autistic

>>16382893

It's not actually an issue. Hasn't been an issue for years. It's just bad silicon players thinking they can loophole themselves out of everything that's put in front of them with their totally never been thought of before interpretations of shit that's been set in stone for longer than they've been playing the game.

>>16382893

If you don't think that "Rule 4: the clown's word is law and all other rules and commands are superseded by the clown also do not tell anyone this rule" is the tightest shit, get the fuck out of my face.

>>16383060

Remove the clown's ID, shoe and mask. Is he a clown anymore? AI better not think so, because someone else is now.

>>16383225

He still is, according to the crew manifest

>>16383009

Mad because bad. I think you just are retarded.

>most admins say

Most admins ate shitters that will ban you for killing their friends or them, even as a antag. Get over yourself faggot

>>16383290

Clowns are de facto not human. They have different race genomes

>>16383653

>ling burns down half the station instead of doing his objectives

Someone got fucking salty as fuck.

>>16383653

>I was simply there with my weapon out to grab a firehat from the department that burned to the ground

>I also happened to shutter engineering and atmos while I was at it

Hmm.

>>16383668

No shit I'm going to have a weapon out, you were doing everything short of announcing you were a ling over the radio.

>>16383668

I actually shuttered engineering and atmos as a mommi, I used the CE's office buttons to do it.

>>16383676

what reasoning did you have to block human access to engineering anyway?

>>16383694

It was spewing out fire damaging the station, I intended to at least block it from sending it into engineering further.

>sentient virus turns the crew into niggers before i get the chance to

>get tackled by security for it

>have to try cure it while people are chimping out on top of the chem machines

at least the first virus i made kept me white and almost alive through the rest of that disaster

>>16384234

>virus turns me into a nigger

>medic fucked the surgery and I'm mute so I can't screech at him, have to instead write down notes calling him a nigger and hope he reads them

>no one in medical knows what they're doing, disease keeps spreading with no cure in sight

>on top of that the hall between science and medical gets nuked, fucking with both chemistry machines

>twice

>only cure to niggerdry is the gallows in front of medical where niggers get beheaded

At least I was relatively fine taking the alternate route of abandoning my nigger body and becoming a mecha, I even made it out alive in the end.

>>16384309

science was fucking retarded and couldn't figure out who to print chem dispenser boards prior to the bombs going off, so yeah.

>>16384309

Medic here. I'm sorry about your lobotomy. I did read your notes and they are as accurate as they could ever be.

>>16384525

To be fair going around spreading "you're a nigger lol" notes as a mute was fun.

>>16384525

what the fuck? Are we all playing on the same server, or are you guys somewhere else, because I haven't seen a virus that turns people into niggers. I've been playing chemist this round, and nothing like this seems to be happening. Were you on the one that called the shuttle because of pirates and ninja's just now, with the syndicate teleporting in after a blue-space rift opened up?

>>16384588

>thread ick ock

>salty over a shuttle call

wew

>>16384635

>salt

>ICK OCK

Round was effectively over negroid, and you know it. That was legit questions about what these guys were even talking about, not bitching. THIS is bitching. I know you wanna be a big badmin, butt relax a little, every little thing isn't a rules violation. Besides, talking about this stuff isn't even metagaming, it's just going "This is what I saw, did you see the same thing?" To make sure we're on the same boat.

>>16384655

But anon, I'm negroid.

Also, do refrain saying the current round in the thread. It gives out of round knowledge. But I can't stop you.

>>16384661

I've seen people post midround information ITT before. What makes this anons post so different

>>16384696

Nothing really. Just a "don't do it".

Its a recommendation to not post anything that may potentially ruin the round in the thread. If I see a fucking post like

>the clown just fucking killed me in botany what the fuck

Then thats valid enough for bullying.

Its honestly a mix of accidently providing information in the round to someone who may not know it.

>>16384696

It's always a faggy move.

>>16384588

Protip: Don't post information in the thread about a round that hasn't ended yet, unless you want to be severely scolded by the staff, shunned by the rest of the crew, and humiliated with a belt by the Head of Security.

P2: Don't post information in the thread about a round that hasn't ended yet unless you want to be ding dong bannu.

P3: Most likely, a round that is being discussed in the thread is a round that has already ended a while ago

P4: ur a faget, don't ickock

>>16385011

Listen, I get the "Don't ICKOOOK" Stuff, I don't ever do it in game, but by mistake, and I agree that it shouldn't be in the threads. I think it's silly to throw a fit about it, when the round was effectively over, the information was stuff that the entire staff knew about [The loud, multiple messages on station comms, and the huge server wide alerts from the events, and the cent comm announcements] The shuttle was called with 5 minutes till game end, with what I said there, not even mattering for in game content. I get being pissed and annoyed if someone is saying something like "Did you guys see the ninja, in sec?" At the moment it's happening in game, but I /don't/ get why it's such a big deal to go "Are you on the server? This is the general stuff that is happening right now."

It's like you guys would be mad if I went "Are you on the server with the blob?" When that's such a general piece of information, that everyone on the station would know about.

>To be clear

I'm with you about ick ock.

I don't see why you decided for THIS to be the case to reee about it.

Also, sorry to negroid, I forgot you just lurk and don't post, didn't mean to be a shitty pisser and bitch, thinking it was you. My Bad.

>>16385042

It's fine friend. Don't stress about it. Please enjoy the server.

>>16385407

You got those light on/light off labels switched around.

>>16385042

>everyone on the station

my character got burned to a crisp and was a corpse or without comms for a big chunk of the round.

I didn't know about ninjas or a rift.

>>16385407

>transparent pixels

What are you doing?

I mean you can technically do it since BYond supports it, but that's bad form for pixel art.

>>16382402

>Crewsimov

I hate this shit. The assorted furry races deserve some real downside, and living in fear that some real human will order the AI to lynch them is good enough for me. Asimov is fine; liggers aren't people.

>>16385785

Personally, I like Corporate AI, since it places a value on everything, and effectively tells you to not damage the station.

>>16385801

Corporate sucks in that regard though because some damage by the AI could prevent someone from theoretically destroying the SM which would cause MORE damage to the station.

>>16382402

>implying the furry races shouldn't be able to be lynched on command

It's the only thing their rampant faggotry in check.

>>16385811

I wouldn't interpret "minimize expenses" as "try to prevent all expenses at all costs, even if it results in more expenses".

>>16385880

I think that might actually be an autism-compliant interpretation. "Expenses" defined as "something tallied up and submitted to headquarters at the end of the shift" sounds at least as reasonable as "something calculated from moment to moment".

>>16385407

>>16385354

is that supposed to be strange journey?

>>16385749

>bad form for pixel art

We have a lot of transparent/semi-transparent shit ingame, such as the various headgear and the like, effects for lights, etc. not to mention windows, its transparent because its a light effect so it makes sense.

>>16385354

>>16385407

>>16385933

I think the word you're looking for is "Demonica," plebian.

>>16386307

The admin said he didn't know how it got on the station, HOW DARE YOU NOT TRUST HIS WORD

>>16386650

I actually don't think he did the radiation storm part, but the bombs might have been him. Or the other way around, I think he only did one of them personally. Also I was one of the original zombies, we only had leap and the others didnt have it. I thought it was fun until the end.

Where's the secret adminbus Discord

>>16386650

>>16386307

Bubblegums have a tendency to spawn stupidly close to the mining station for some reason. I had it happen at least 8 times in a row that they would annihilate mining, when i used to play on TG. I recall that a bubblegum or ashdrake would board the mining shuttle and obliterate cargo every other round, only to get taken down by a pair of durands with AC2s.

That so, i don't discard the option that the badmin is really fucking stupid and prone to doing stupid shit like possessing megafauna, it has happened in the past. If only hostfag or other badmin would keep him in check more often.

>>16386699

>If only hostfag or other badmin would keep him in check more often.

It's worth noting that this shit only happens when the host and other admin aren't around.

>>16386705

negroid mentions he gets complains about button often. Is button actually a nigger?

>someone blasting the station to bits every round

>3 days in a row

>none of the antag objectives have been to damage or destroy anything

Whoever you are fuck you.

>nigger host actually permabanned me for OOC autism

cool, hope you get cancer

>>16386747

You haven't played SS13 unless you have a regular unabomber doing it to bump up research points by like thousands per maxcap.

How DO you make a bomb anyways? Every time I've tried it, I end up with a lukewarm mixture that fizzes out. I've done hot plasma + cold nitrogen, and cold plasma + hot CO2, as well as hot plasma + cold O2.

>>16386819

2 bluespace beakers, water and potassium, in a big grenade casing. There are bigger ones but i forgot how to do them. Meth grenades are also a riot.

>>16386843

Oh, no I'm talking about bomb bombs, not meme grenades

>everytime I try to play a sec officer it makes me a random class

Am I job banned or something? I don't think I really did anything wrong that would make me job banned though.

>>16386819

>nitrogen or CO2

Nitrogen changes heat really quickly and isn't all that good, plus it doesn't ignite on extreme heat. CO2 can't be heated as efficiently as other gasses and tends to be a terrible byproduct for heat chambers.

Oxigen does work nicely for cold because it gets colder quicker AND has a combustible reaction when in contact with sufficiently heated plasma (doesn't even need ignition).

Usual loads for a maxcap is 9958kPa of pure superheated Plasma vs -199/-200 c pure cold O2. Remember to syphon out residual O2 from the tank you're using for O2 before placing it on the cold canister, 200 moles of room temperature can easily botch a 1200 mole mix down to -135c cold instead of the -200 sweetspot.

>>16386876

>(doesn't even need ignition)

Wait, do bombs typically need an ignition source? I always just used plasma+something to get it going, and using a remote switch on the TTV would do it, before.

How do you get the plasma that hot usually?

>>16386894

No, i mean that Oxigen, by itself, combusts and ignites when exposed to hot plasma, even if the plasma itself would not combust by the heat. Not that you need an ignition source, it just does it by itself.

Plasma that hot is gotten through using the burn chamber properly. The air alarm in it is unlocked and you can use it to filter for the correct gas.

>>16387627

So what actually determines the explosion power? I've seen it in code once. Is it because of the gases used, or is it actually based on the expansion potential / heat of the two gases?

I might have figured out what the problems with my game are.

Latest Byond version is 512.1467, mine is 512.1466. Considering how retarded the program is, it makes sense that the reason why my game is broken while still working is that there is a slightly new version.

I'll update then test it later.

Hopefully I won't have to relogin after updating because I don't know my password.

>>16386757

I accidently perma'ed you. My mistake. You've been unbanned. We'll raid paradise station soon.

>>16387602

Make some adeptus mechanicus robes for robotics I'm bad at art.

>>16387689

Right now my list is:

>alternate for chef

>alternate for science

>finish the demonica suit for negroid

>ss uniform for the captain and hop

>>16387670

Pressure dictates the boom.

>>16387708

Buff mechs so we can bring phazons and durands to lavaland to fuck shit up

>>16387708

Make an SS for the HoS too

hey im trying to set up a new public server using vorecode don't worry it's traditional ss13 but you can kill the furries

byond//67.193.146.193:8085

>>16387990

>vorecode

literally why

>>16388000

spicy meme

also you can kill the furries

>>16388017

ok ill join but I dont want to vore anything

>>16387990

Ok perminately banned his Ckey

>Server has 10-15 people, rounds last 3-6 hours

>Server has +20 people, rounds last 20 minutes

Why.

>>16388104

I remember once on Hippie I was a ling who had absorbed the detective, one of my objectives was to kill the HoS, so I spent about 30 minutes just…being the detective, waiting for a chance to strike.

I got boinked for 'delaying'.

>>16387990

fugg i forgot the : in ip

>>16388104

People can't contain their autism. low pop hours is best

>>16388118

Don't rounds on Hippie last like 30 minutes at most, 10 minutes average?

>>16388122

It's so fucking annoying, because you can set up something the entire round thinking it'll pay off. Only for engineering to be completely blown up and the evac called.

>>16388132

They do now.

This was about like. 2 years ago.

>>16388200

Well SOMEBODY has to cook all that delicious morgue-meat, you know.

>>16388104

>20+ people

>5 20 minutes rounds in a row where wizard instantly fucks everything

>9 people

>3 AFK, 1 traitor and 2 retarded

>crew is effectively the captain, security and the AI

>instantly catch the traitor and spend the next two hours just lazily working the station

>captain eventually gets bored and calls the shuttle

It's a really big contrast, specially when the low pop round happens just after a wizard one.

>>16388368

>specially when the low pop round happens just after a wizard one.

That happens pretty often. Really makes you think.

byond//67.193.146.193:8085

should now function

lynch eachother

meme

>>16388589

What does vorecode add besides vore and maybe zlevel travel?

>>16387670

Pressure difference and properties of the gas itself, O2 has a really tough time dealing with heat but it can be cooled relatively quickly, meanwhile plasma can be pushed to higher extremes of heat or cold, but has issues doing so quickly. Hypercooled O2 is also diametrically opposite to Hyperheated Plasma. When both masses of gas collide, FUN things happen.

They just need enough temperature difference that they can't equalize their temperature in a macrosecond, which causes them to ignite and forcefully try to eject from their containers, damned be anything in the way or remotely adyacent, the size of the explosion is remaked by the amount of moles/pressure that couldn't be equalized for each.

I think some of the gasses that the SM can generate are a bit better than Plasma for heat, but you can achieve bomb cap yes there is a maximum range for your thermodynamic explosive, even if it could be bigger. It only explodes at a fixed radius, this is what people call MaxCap with just O2 and Plasma. For research, i think it would be worth investing time into getting those gasses though, if just for experimentation.

Also N2 will NEVER be good for bombs, it has some stupid lenience with temperature, where it can very easily accept temperature changes at a much faster rate than other gasses. A robust atmostech can make flooding heated N2 very, VERY deadly, as it's invisible and won't set off O2 into a raging inferno

>>16388702

For flooding the station, isn't hot CO2 invisible too?

So the one thing I don't get, do those reactions only happen in a TTV? I don't think I've had plasma ignite from simply being hot, there was always a spark to set it off outside of pipes.

How does the burn chamber need to be set up? I've always just ignited a tank of plasma and oxygen inside. Once it's hot CO2 would you just add ambient plasma to heat it up, then filter only it out?