/v/ - Video Games

>>16256389

ASTOLFO A CUTE

Why would people pay for something that is free?

>>16256405

To milk the retards who've only seen the memes and not the raw state of the game.

>>16256405

Something something medical bills.

>>16256389

*Cloaca baby

>>16256405

Because idiots are unable to hold on money for long.

>>16256405

Think it more as an alternate way of donating to Toady thought you're still better off donating directly or throught Patreon due to the cut Steam takes

>>16256460

Again, why pirate a game that is free? Is /v/ full of autistic retards? When did the IQ become room temp here? Its so difficult talking to retards on here lately.

>>16256467

So you are saying the pack is free?

>>16256470

All they're really paying for is a tileset and some sounds from what I've gathered. The updates are all in the original recipe version.

>>16256389

Did it give birth through a dick?

>>16256467

>Is /v/ full of autistic retards?

Does a bear shit in the woods?

>When did the IQ become room temp here?

Post THQ AMA, I think.

>>16256484

No, you fool. What we got here is an ass womb.

>>16256488 (heil'd)

I see, though I don't think an ass can stretch that much.

>>16256492

Maybe. Better luck than birthing via dick, though.

>>16256492

>rex.webm

>>16256500

>>16256492

>Samefagging

Wait until you see Bad Dragon videos…

>>16256508

>samefagging

>with IDs

Cuckchan really is out in full force.

>>16256379

>it's no longer full of autistic squiggles

So it's finally playable now?

>>16256467

Because you can?

>>16256526

That's exactly because you're using TN

t. IPS

>>16256556

>muh pronouns

>chlorine pool hair

Wasn't planning on it anyway.

>>16256405

It's not free. It's $12.

>>16256389

you know if you go full circle and just make the trap into a woman with a penis the trap will take on every negative female trait you're afraid of

trapfags are so confused

>>16256610

It's basically just the base game but with the ugliest slopes you could possibly have for a tileset. Since this will be coming out with Villains just download the base game and follow the modding guide for adding someone's tileset and you're done. Exact same game, for free.

Maybe the UI might be different but anybody playing Dwarf Fortress can tell you that only chumps will be confused by anything that isn't the military section.

Wire Toady a few bux via PayPal and download the LNP, bam, you're better off than using the Steam version.

>>16256389

This would be an annoyingly cute picture were there no anatomic view of a baby in the is it a womb or actually its ass?

>>16256379

>$12 please

>release date : time is subjective

Am I missing something?

>>16256467

The game looks like a different version of dwarf fortress, and this version isn't free so it's not a free game.

>>16256624

the panel technology with BETTER COLOR ACCURACY can display finer gradients, which TN can't do, resulting in the two colors looking closer on the better screen and more different on the worse screen. As a bad example, look at 8b color vs 30b color.

>>16256690

r.i.p hotwheels, feels bad seeing him have to dissasociate from any and all imageboards recently on twitter after all the love he had poured into 8chan before J*m and J*sh/Null had taken over.

Rest in peaice little dood. ;_;7

>>16256699

He's still alive, just yesterday he finished a paper on decentralized imageboards.

>>16256796

That sounds a fair bit more productive than his emoji language project.

>>16256820

He believes in that Yang shit though.

>>16256618

It's not that they're confused, it's that they want the more basic, and feminine points of women, while keeping everything about the modern woman as far away from them as is humanly possible. If anything, trapfags, especially with pregnancy like that are a result of mens rising disgust in the corruption and degradation of the modern woman and womens fall from grace into hedonism, which has led a great deal of men to self-medicate, in this case by imagining women who are not women, but have all of the most desireable traits in women, all so they don't have to face and think about what their other halves have become.

>>16256492

I've never had anybody fuck my ass but I instantly lose 10 lbs every few days at the toilet.

An ass can definitely accomplish it.

On one hand I feel that yes he deserves cash from the people who play his game at this point, the people who contribute versus people who dont after investing some hours in it, but Steam is a great big mistake. He should have just self published this as the 'official tile set' and sold it on his website so Steam doesn't fucking snipe 30% off the top.

I swear someone had to feed the man bad advice to try and do this, and it's genuinely sad if he really does have health issues he has to try and start making up for.

>>16256379

>not on Epic store

does toady hate money

>>16256511

>doesn't know how to change ID

Yeah cuckchan is out in full force.

>>16257100

I mean if he gets offered 2 plus million he'd probably take it if the medical bills are real pay them off and have enough over to fund fort for rest of his life.

BUT i think he is an actual gamer at heart and sees the dick shit epic is pulling.

its basically pride vs money and hopeful people buy it

personally I want to see how the tileset works first I've tried many times to get into df only to manage to make stockpiles and digging before giving up

>>16256653

It's real nerd! I'm punching you right now!

>>16257144

He said rimworld, not dwarf forttress

>>16257161

>dwarf fort doesn't let you genocide non-whites because it has none

What a cucked game.

>>16257174

That's why it's called fantasy.

>>16257144

>He doesn't have Prepare carefully, furnace, gas weaponry and Rimatomics mods installed.

Fag.

>>16257169

Now you know how the rest of /v/ feels. Welcome to the club.

>>16257281

Fags, they are called fags

>>16257255

Faggotry is unnatural and at worst in a game it should be a toggle; allow the faggotry mutation or don't. It's not our fault society was convinced into toggling it on.

>>16257161

There's an all white mod. Don't know if there's a remove anus plunderers one too.

>>16257152

that's a french horn you nigger, not a trombone

Good on him, he deserves money from anyone dumb enough to actually pay for something that's free

>>16257422

Nobody cares, nerd.

>>16257538

>making almost 3K each one per month, 36K per year

>still not enough

They do nothing outside of working on DF, have no larger team to pay for or high server costs. If they can't budget their life, even with health problems, with that funding, there's no reason to believe that any more cash will.

Especially a single payment of 12$ from everyone that plays the damn game in the first place, which likely won't reach what they make in a single year.

If they were to crowdfund any operation or health complication they had, they'd get the money from the community anyway, this is just incredibly stupid.

>>16257554

He's not wrong.

>>16256379

>It's out

Except it's not. Still shit though.

>>16257553

That's literally what the Patreon is for.

12 dollars for an unfinished game where you need to use mods and memory edits to do the most basic things.

>>16257726

Pre-pubescent children are declaring themselves gay now. I'm sure there are no artificially constructed social influences contributing to this.

>>16257769

Obviously it was suppressed. That doesn't mean the over-glorification of gayness we see in the modern world is somehow a return to normality.

>>16256603

>Didn't that shitshow bite the dust already?

No because it never actually existed in the first place. All it ever was is a webpage and a paypal link for donations

>>16257788

>pay twenty thousand bucks per year, goyim!

>when you'll go to the hospital twice in your life at most!

Or I'll take that money and save it for a rainy day. I'll have enough to pay if I ever have to go to hospital, and also for auto repairs, home repairs and anything else that might come up. Fuck off with your kikery.

>>16257788

I'd sooner die than give doctors my money.

16257255

>/pol/scum

Why do you niggers keep giving (You)s to the fag that outed himself as cuckchan in his second fucking post

>>16256863

Yes, and it's pure coincidence that their fantasy is a girly man to fuck in the ass. You think homosexual fantasies in a "straight" modern man aren't a symptom of degradation?

Your average anon on here is a failed man, often socially, often financially. Everyone is spoiled and soft, you're as likely to find a narcissistic whore as an effeminate manchild. Claiming it's the sole failing of the fairer sex is exactly the kind of weak excuse these weak anons will make for themselves. Unironic incels are unironic incels for a reason.

magnet?

>>16257570

Terminal medical bills are incredibly expensive.

t. insurance producer.

Well hello there fellow aryans

>>16257788

There's no real reason to pay medical bills, they can't refuse to give you treatment and medical bills don't effect your credit.

>>16257978

Dwarf fort is old as shit and been an accepted game for years.

Posts were deleted as the outrage over things known about df for years really reveals how new you are.

Newfaggotry is easy to sniff out because your need the encyclopedia knowledge to not expose yourself of which take autism and years of nothing better to do day after day year after year.

>Let me bitch about a game that has been popular since before the exodus

>Let me bitch about fags which have been present in the game since before the exodus

>Let me bitch about a game that has layers of depth and challenge which is the anti-thesis of the cancer in videogames.

<Why are people calling me a newfag?

Thanks for deleting the un-kosher part of the derail, dear hotpockets, you are our greatest allies

>>16258034

>ban evasion

Oof yikes

>>16257948

Does Insurance actually cover that? Never made much sense to me since it's like taking an insurance for a completely broken car to get free repairs afterwards.

Still, Americans have it harsh. My health insurance is roughly only 5% of my salary and I'm not even in a rich country.

I still doubt that the money he makes from selling this on Steam will make any significant difference while the loss of reputation for caving in like this will possibly harm it more.

He could have at least used something like Gamejolt or Itch.io

>>16257948

Why the fuck do americans have such a fucked up healthcare system? I read somewhere years ago that the US is one of the countries that invests the most on healthcare but it's way worse than other nations' that spend far less of the budget on healthcare. I live in a shithole, our healthcare sucks dick, and I can still say that I don't have to fear going broke because I got sick or injured. Fix your shit, niggers.

>>16258083

I believe it is coming out on Itch.io as well

>>16258002

>Let me bitch about fags which have been present in the game since before the exodus

Yeah, imagine spouting such hatespeech, even though we unanimously agreed that this time poz is okay. Reminder that adding fags into a game about survival was a bigger priority than fixing bugs that are over 10 years old (and you can't complain about those, either, since they have also remained unfixed since before the exodus).

>>16258162

You couldn't mention a bug that is 10 years old.

>>16258083

He's not caving into anyone though.

He is hiring a team to do the graphical work for the game and then implementing it.

He turned down a 200,000 a year job by a big publisher to retain his creative license. He is hiring people to make the graphics not program the game.

Also to touch on U.S health insurance.

Our system is fucked due to large population, poor public health, large dispersement of population meaning more clinics and hospitals for smaller groups, a huge malpractice lawsuit scene where hospitals have their biggest expense being legal teams, and generic pharmaceuticals which mean pharma has to reroll molecules to allow them to have patent rights for 7 years.

>>16258198

Fuck, you got me, the one I was thinking about only celebrated its 8th birthday a few weeks ago (http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=4105).

>>16258220

Its more forgivable then CoQ which purposely prevented for graphical extensions so they could sell it for $15 without asci.

>>16258231

>Cant breed sea serpents because buildings are considered submerged

That would need a separation between buildings and then furniture, you can't possibly imagine their were other priorities before making a split in code between half the objects in the game?

I'm sorry but a small bug like this doesn't upset me much when the game allows me to make gauntlets for children over volcanoes where they are required to dodge magma crab munitions.

Or making a labyrinth that a drop goblins into which eventually leads to descending into madness.

>>16258258

It was reported in 2011. You know what was the priority at that time, when that version came out? Fucking eggs. Eggs were the priority. Every new fortress was filled with eggs. /vg/ general was eggs. Every fucking thing was eggs. Look at my generated wealth, you'll never guess where it came from (eggs). But this is a common story with DF: a bug in the latest piece of bloat is mentioned a week too late, and Toady can't be bothered to even look into it anymore, since paypal money only come in when you keep tacking on more stuff instead of fixing what you already have.

>>16258213

>Health insurance

Just say that the North American health industry is an industry, and that should say more than enough.

>>16258138

They refuse to do it properly (i.e. how many countries in Europe do it) because that's socialism, so they have a bunch of half measures that work as well as expected.

This isn't to say that the companies or the government are to blame, but everyone seems to prefer this over the alternative so they are part of the problem as well.

As far as I've understood, what they have is a system where you are required to have insurance to even have a job, but don't worry Citizen! If you can't pay, the government will step in and do it for you.

That is to say, everyone else pays for your insurance with taxes while insurance companies can increase the price a lot because it's always going to be paid anyway.

>>16258213

I meant caving in to external help and a big platform to publish it on.

Dwarf Fortress always was one of those examples of self publishing successful indies, the other quite possibly being Minecraft. The fact that it was two brothers doing their thing online and pouring their heart into it, word of mouth alone getting it as popular as it did, was quite a badge of honor.

Now that they are getting external help for the models and even a platform that will handle sales for them, it's really not the same thing anymore. It barely counts as indie, even.

It's really not a big deal, I doubt the graphical changes will ever seriously impact the gameplay (the only reason to play the game) and having another forum to talk about the game as well as Steamworkshop instead of everything being centralized in Bay12 forums (where autism goes to play legos) might even be good for the game.

However, you're probably going to see people wondering "If you were going to do this, why haven't you done it sooner? We could have had graphics like this a long time ago!" and from there, a lot of unconfortable questions will be asked.

>>16257852

>i'll just pretend i'm part some oppressed,undiscribed,margarinased ethnic group of todays society and then they'll have to treat me for free

So, white?

I gladly pay the $12 if I never have to go through that shit show that is the manual installation on mac anymore.

>>16258313

Yet the only proven reduction in premium and moving to preventive medicine was provided by the privatized medical industry in the firm of HMO and PPO system.

>>16258138

Most healthcare spending is done on preventable problems and artificially prolonging the lives of old people. The overpriced cost of healthcare is well understood yet people continue to uphold their self destructive habits.

>>16258314

Americans get health insurance through their employers. Public healthcare(medicaid) applies to old people. If you don't have a job and you're not at the government retirement age, you're out of luck.

>>16258314

>you are required to have insurance to even have a job

so mandatory insurance. At that point I don't see how it isn't socialism - you're forced into paying insurance whether you like it or not.

>>16256379

The one actual new feature in the paid version of the game is "Steam Workshop integration".

I think that counts as paid mods.

So what exactly is being sold here? Just the actual base game with a tileset? Not even LNP? Who plays DF without LNP, what is this, 2010? Will people write reviews hyping elephants and carp as well?

>>16256863

They just think that because traps used to be men they won't be feminist cunts or act spoiled like women.

>>16257033

If he published a decent tileset I would happily pay for it. It would also motivate him to improve graphics and maybe even the UI finally. But DF's graphics and UI are the mess they are because 15 years ago he ragequit his previous 3D game. So now in his mind there is only extreme minimalism and AAA-style graphics whoring. Even the basic shit like tilesets we have today took years of cajoling from modders. Must have felt bad to be proven wrong now by the likes of RimWorld proved all of his assumptions wrong such as

>you need a big budget for nice graphics

>nice graphics means 3d with super detailed effects

>nice graphics takes a lot of work

>fixing the interface is too much work

>player experience won't be impacted by minor QoL fixes

>this kind of complex management game will never succeed commercially

>it will never have good performance on a modern computer

>it's pointless to try to improve performance

DF created a whole renaissance for these types of games but now those games he inspired are going to cannibalize his audience because he keeps clinging to his "fuck the player experience" attitude. The various 2D colony management games already measure up to pre-40d DF despite less complexity. The moment someone makes a decent RimWorld with Z-levels his fanbase will start shrinking fast.

>>16257570

Don't get me wrong, if Notch is a billionaire I don't mind Toady wanting some comfort, but health insurance makes no sense other than as a polite figure of speech. If he's worried about eventual health costs the single biggest thing he can do is start exercising and stop staying up until 5 am drinking sodas, which costs absolutely nothing. If he came out and said he wants to splash out on luxuries, I'd have no problem, but asking people to subsidize his destruction of his own body is idiotic.

>>16258083

Insurance is just a way of outsourcing your rainy day planning to someone else. If you don't have money in the bank you can take a loan to cover your hospital visit, and in the end the interest will be similar to what you lose on the insurance premium. With a broken car you will simply be offered policies with high premiums so that in the long run, the company gets slightly more premiums than it spends on the repairs.

It's not that expensive, btw. I have average insurance and I only pay ~$200/mo for it. Toady would pay ~400/mo assuming 60k/year income. Don't listen too much to fake news on the media.

>loss of reputation

I doubt it, he has a loyal following on these boards but we have long since stopped mattering to him. Redditors, twitch watchers and games-journalist-following numales are much more numerous and easier to please. Which is why he added things like making 25-50% of all dwarves gay. How would this damage his reputation with them?

>>16258213

Assuming the 200k came with royalties, sounds like it was a no brainer. I'm guessing he took the shit deal with these guys out of regret.

>>16258314

DF is not self-published, it's not published at all. It's a free game supported by donations. Big difference from people who sell games they made themselves, as opposed to going through a publisher (which is what indie means).

>>16258508

>The moment someone makes a decent RimWorld with Z-levels

Let's not get too ambitious just yet. I'd say to start with:

>The moment someone makes a decent RimWorld

>>1625637

You know I'd buy it. If anyone deserves money, it's Toady.

>>16258508

>making 25-50% of all dwarves gay

False.

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Marriage

>>16258536

> It is believed that this makes 71.2% of dwarves strictly heterosexual, 23.8% bisexual, 3.8% aromantic/asexual, and 1.2% strictly homosexual, though this includes preferences that do not lead to marriage.

So 27.8% of dorfs

>>16258557

Less than 4%. And besides, dorf fort is one of those games that allows you to prosecute people based on their race, ethnicity, religion and sexual orientation. If you couldn't genocide dorfs for being gay before, you can now.

It is?

>>16258567

>less than 4%

Why are you lying so openly?

>>16258607

You're right, it's

>1.2% strictly homosexual

So "less than 4%" is way too generous, the appropriate description is "just over 1%".

>>16258623

Do you gain something from lying about faggot dwarves?

>>16258623

A bisexual dorf that pairs with a same-sex dorf is just as useless as an asexual or strictly homosexual dorf mechanically speaking.

what happen to DF being able to buy it is gone on steam

>>16258674

Oh I'm not lying, I'm citing official numbers. You, on the other hand, are grasping at straws for a reason to be offended, scan the text for trigger words to go apeshit about and paying no mind to the substance.

>>16258684

You're saying that as if population explosion is a desired situation (cue pop cap existence), much like being unable to fix the fags because they don't exist in the game. Fret not, if you want your game world to be a pristine christian fantasy - you can make it so. All you need to do is to add an ORIENTATION tag to the dorfs that says they must be all 100% heterosexual.

>>16258695

Please speak english

>>16258521

To be clear I wasn't talking in terms of a game that us /v/irgins would appreciate. I meant that from a purely business perspective, games like RimWorld already capture a lot of DF's audience. They're nowhere near as complex, but they don't have to be. Most people don't really appreciate a lot of DF's complexity. Especially most of the people who spend money on games. Last I checked RimWorld was making bank even before half the current features were in. So when I say decent, I mean decent enough for the same people that paid for RimWorld. Not you and me.

>>16258517

Up to now, obviously. That's part of my question tho, this is a game that managed to reach probably millions already through their website, so what exactly is the publisher there to do?

>>16258700

literally just woke up.

what happen to the steam page where earlier the game was available for 12 dollars. it appears to be gone now

>>16258708

That was obviously a joke. First, the game is free. Second, if it was for sale it would cost way more than $12.

>>16258674

You're replying to very shitty bait. Even the wiki says only 70% will be straight. But of course what the wiki says is irrelevant, because you can observe all this easily in game. My last fort had 40 dorfs of which 12 were some kind of homo. If Toady were honest he would have simply included a switch somewhere to toggle this, just like childbearing, temperature and caveins. Doing so would have been the obvious choice in terms of maximizing the quality of the game.

The only benefit to not doing so is virtue signalling. It's a relatively small event that shows a lot about Toady's true nature. Years of redditards and journos sucking his cock must have had some effect because this isn't the same Toady that made Liberal Crime Squad. Either he's pandering because he's desperate for money, or he's pandering because he's desperate for validation, but he's pandering either way. My guess is as I said he's starting to envy his shitty knockoffs for being many times more successful than him. I think he's the kind of person who likes to believe he is above compromising on his personal convictions for the money or fame, but in the end the mid life crisis hit him and suddenly those things are not so meaningless after all.

>>16258002

>you can't discuss video games because it goes against the jewish narrative to do so

Oh gee.

>>16258794

>the wiki says only 70% will be straight

>but of course what the wiki says is irrelevant

>my last fort had whole 70% straight dorfs and not 70% as wiki suggested

>>16258801

>The jewish narrative is boarch culture

Wew lad, kill yourself

>> 16258899

>post shitty bait

>people call you shitty bait

>post more shitty bait

>>16259012

You have to change the fag chance for every single sexually reproducing creature else your pigs might be carpet munchers.

>> 16259012

If it wasn't in the raws I bet you would say that it's still okay because you can just use a memory editor, psh.

>I didn't even realize there were people this outright retardewd playing this game

I'm all for elitism but you are about a decade late. The game has a huge following on reddit and youtube among other places, if you haven't noticed.

>>16256379

If I were to guess, they would copy Unreal Worlds integration. Getting the game free on their site, but getting an update into the future by paying for it if you want to support them. Idk what kind of deal they have though, I don't know whats happenend where they felt the need to do this.

>>16259012

It's easier just digging for a small mod that specifically has the tokens added to the caste for everything. It's mostly a problem for domestic animals and your dwarfs because other animals will be spawned for your area according to the total population. I don't know where the guy who thinks it evens out to a 70% is getting his info from, the 70-80% chance isn't based on total population it's an outright chance for every single newborn once generated and is never checked again. It is totally possible to have your entire fort be gay Dwarves after a few generations because every kid born was randomly generated to be gay irrelevant to the orientation trait of the parent.

Mark is a faggot and I got the thread saved, so that /pol/scum Newfag will forever be a faggot in my eyes.

>>16259070

this

>paying money for games, ever

>>16257774

And the Skype leaks, turning out that Crash Override Network is literally the cyberbullies themselves.

>>16256379

sheeeeeeeeiit all i gots bout tree fiddy

>>16258705

>Up to now, obviously. That's part of my question tho, this is a game that managed to reach probably millions already through their website, so what exactly is the publisher there to do?

Take their fair share of 50%. And Steam takes 30%.

>>16256389

>post is still up

Mark, do you want to tell us something?

>>16256863

No, they are just mentally ill fags who fap to womanly men.

Everything else is just a pathetic attempt at rationalizing their broken minds.

>>16259558

Its supposed to tie into the whole idea of the Myth and Magic update, where an ethereal & asexual Dwarven spirit fucked itself to create a meteor in space which crashed into the planet, and from which the dwarves emerged from the smouldering rock and crater to dig into the rest of the world.

God and Toady only knows why it was added to creatures (its also applied to animals and other races) at such an early stage, probably if I had to guess it was to provide a baseline with which to go off of since Gods would be treated no differently or in any less regard to normal hist-figs, just they're infinitely more powerful and live on different planes of existence. Its at least something that has a value in the raws and therefore malleable, so there isn't any obligation to play with homo creatures and Toady isn't trying to shoehorn in a political diatribe in his game either.

>>16259558

Because DF has been subverted by SJWs for a while now. I don't know how anyone can stand to play it with it having gays in it.

>>16259558

>cave full of men

>not gay

It's like the Navy but underground and without water.

>>16259573

>plays with aquifer off

fucking casual

>>16259558

>need

There's that word again. Nobody says it "needs" to be there, there's no specific reason why this must be a part of the game, other than variety for variety's sake.

You could just as well ask "Why does this game need dwarves to have different hair\eye colors?" and the answer is the same. It's an embellishment of a character by giving him an extra trait to differentiate himself from others.

Personnaly, I don't care. He could remove it or keep it and it wouldn't faze me one bit since reproduction takes several years to even matter and immigration is likely the biggest source of population anyway.

But I provided a simple statistical analysis of the odds that all your dwarves are gay, and you replied as if I was demanding it, so I'm guessing what really matters to you is that there's fags in a videogame and you'll hide your ideology behind concerns for gameplay.

Of all the things he might implement, homosexuality seems pretty low priority. If some of his faggot forum friends - just check out the official ones the community is fucking awful - wanted it to jerk off there's already mods for it anyway.

Also something tells me if he had added pedophilia - sorry, ephebophilia - a large part of /v/ would be defending him right now.

>>16259632

>loli fortress

>a bad thing

Shut up, you… you.. ELF!

lul

>>16259670

False equivalency. People are by now finely attuned to leftgroid agitprop so of course they are going to reject anything that reeks of agenda pushing.

>>16259599

>fence-shitter

t. safe space cuck

>>16259677

With the way the right is going these days I'm sure people are going to attune and reject their brand of social justice in record time.

>>16259733

>Horseshoe theory

>>16259735

Actually, it's Hegelian dialectics. But I can see why you'd confuse both as either of them show why it's not a good idea to favor any side.

>>16259737

>>16259737

And guess what, that sort of thinking is the basis for leftgroid poststructuralism. You can try all you want, your irrational bullshit won't work.

>>16259733

It's already happening on /v/. /pol/ is wearing out their welcome by constantly ruining threads.

"There's a game in here somewhere" X-Play

>>16259763

Nobody here has been screeching at all until you and your histrionic post showed up. My statement on the matter was that it's odd that toady would prioritize something as minor as sexual preferences when he's arguably got more important features to work on. This behavior begs the question why he would do so, leading people to speculate that it's virtue signalling. Personally I suspect he simply saw the amount of fetish mods made by his retarded community and figured that's the shit people want from DF.

>>16259758

>we

>>16259773

>Valid, objective, factual reasons

>Doesnt post them

Are you a legit homo?

>>16259754

Which wouldn't happen in first place if faggots like you would ignore it and not reply to it.

>>16259750

>So, basically, something that has nothing to do with what you just said

If you don't know what something is, you can just ask and I'm sure someone will happily explain it to you. This isn't /leftypol/ where you'll be told to read a book or /pol/ where you'll be told to lurk two more years.

You remain ignorant out of your own volition.

>>16259758

>everyone is on my side!

>if you disagree you're not on my side!

>>16259769

First post regarding faggots ingame was >>16257375 someone oposed to it. You morons always start the flamewars about gays in videogames and then can't even own up to the derails you start.

>>16259773

>We have perfectly valid, objective, factual reasons to hate faggots and anything related to them.

Funny. The Left says exactly the same thing.

>two men kissing produces the same revulsion in heterosexual men as looking at a piece of feces

That's a very good argument to avoid looking at it, but not a compelling one to prosecute and lynch gays.

Or even to bitch about it when they show up in a videogame where most art is ASCII anyway.

>Nobody is afraid of sodomizing childfuckers.

You seem deadly afraid that they'll tear your society apart. That if 2 men kiss in public, everyone else around them will slowly become a little bit more gay.

>Yes, because faggots and everyone that defends them. Take your degenerate filth elsewhere.

<Yes, because bigots and everyone that defends them. Take your problematic filth elsewhere.

You're not even amusing anymore.

>>16259480

He adjusted the chances, people still set it to 100% straight because it gets in the way of long family dynasties.

>>16259799

>That if 2 men kiss in public, everyone else around them will slowly become a little bit more gay.

Since I've worked with Gays before what will happen is they will openly flirt with you and if you reject them outright you'll be fired and lose your job. They're an outright cancer to society.

Video games

>>16259919

It was nice reading your shit anon

>>16258138

> I can still say that I don't have to fear going broke because I got sick or injured.

yeah but you might just die because the equipment/personnel sucks.

>>16259929

> Also, the modern generation of gamers is so utterly retarded that they hardly know how to browse the internet

Even if they are tech savvy, some of them just don't want to do anything that doesn't hook into their favorite game manager. One of my friends has a fairly involved computer job, but when it comes to games he's just a Steam babby and won't touch anything else. He kept telling me how interested he is in playing Dwarf Fortress and I kept telling him for literally years to just download it, pull up the wiki, and fuck around for a while, and he never did. Suddenly, it releases on Steam and he buys it day one.

It's baby duck syndrome. People have gotten so used to Steam that they are afraid to try anything else, or to play a game that doesn't hook into it. They need their overlay, achievements, in-game chat, and other useless bullshit that is better done by something else or just ignored entirely.

>>16258138

>why the fuck do americans have such a fucked up healthcare system?

Niggers.

>>16259965

I wonder if that chart takes into consideration the amount of beaners who recieve healthcare and don't pay and thus actual citizens are forced to foot the bill. Something tells me this isn't something the European system deals with often.

>>16260294

At least in the US when you have the money and pay the money you're guaranteed service.

Anyone who says public healthcare is good is either an old man who has networked so much he knows exactly which doctor to talk to, or he is young and doesn't actually need the healthcare. I'd save so much money if our healthcare wasn't public, and every god damned time I'm always given some "please come visit us 20 times and pay us each time" bullshit. I'd later learn from some nurses that our entire healthcare system practices something called "healthcare rationing" which is basically the same thing they do in ex-Soviet countries and if you're not some famous celebrity or a politician the system is deliberately fucking with you to keep you out.

>>16259965

>Japan 12+ visits per year

That's to stop them dying each time they're caught out in the rain for more than 8 seconds and contract the dreaded Japanese cold.

>>16259965

Regardless of the name taking money from me and using it to pay for another person's mistakes/misfortune is bad, and so is the other way around.

>>16260342

Countries with social healthcare still have private clinics were you can go if you have the money for that. It's just independant from the state and vice-versa, which is why it's not so fucked. Private companies can't use the state to make money and the state can't just offload quality service to them either.

It's not perfect and waiting times for operations can get quite long, but it's miles better than giving an arm to operate a leg.

>>16260362

But insurances are okay?

>>16260379

All private healthcare in my country that I can afford is subsidized by the government to make it affordable, everything else that could be privatize charges you two arms for one leg. So anyone who is rich goes outside the country for healthcare. As i said before only old people benefit because they know exactly who to talk to so they literally bypass the entire system via networking. The wait times are deliberate on the hopes that you die or give up.

>>16260401

So are you one of Mark's cronies or something? Ever since that shooting false flag there is all these one and dones going VIDEO GAMES and never contributing to any discussion whatsoever.

>>16260379

Do you mean things like Health and Car Insurance? I think all such Insurances are a scam.

>>16260411

God forbid people request that video games be talked about on /v/.

>>16256556

…and there goes my interest…

>>16260639

No point.

>>16260342

exactly. I have to wait 4 hours each time I go to doc and I am ordered on time but thats because all young docs fled country

>Countries with social healthcare still have private clinics were you can go if you have the money for that

yeah but I already have to pay for social healthcare why do I have to pay double?

>>16256460

If you watch the trailer. It states "wishlist now!"

I'm assuming they'll maybe give free copies to those who wish list?

>>16258138

Because the US is run by kikes. They play both sides so that shitloads of money is invested but nothing gets fixed and it lines the Jew doctors’ pockets.

>>16261283

What the fuck is wrong with you? Think for a second anon.

Whats the point of giving away thousands of copies of your game away right off the bat even though another version is free and people can also pirate it?

Thats practically buisness suicide.

>>16259799

Your autism is running amuck, and the person you're derailing the thread with is also retarded or some sort of subtle pil/pol/, either way the only thing that needs to be said is what hasn't been said which is that faggots usually are created from some sort of homosexual molestation or complete failure to reproduce and that they spread disease rampantly, aversion to homosexuals has become second nature due to epigenetics but now we are having to rediscover in the modern era why we have natural impulses to turn away from homosexuality. Instinct isn't primal stupidity, it's hard-wrought DNA coding written by personal experiences by our ancestors.

>>16259677

>leftgroid agitprop

another month goes by, another flavor of the month phrase picked up by the intellectuals of a forsaken board.

Next, it should be 3D (first- or second-person)

>>16256556

Great job of them being scared of cyberviolence when fags from /pol/ came out to do real one.

>>16256863

When you feel like a raging homo, and talk about bullshit like "traps with pregnancy", think why God Almighty made a woman.

>>16261820

Minecraft was supposed to be first person DF.

>>16258684

only 50% of the time, so that's about 16% non heterosexually married dwarves in the long term.

>>16258899

math is hard.

>>16259558

Why does a game about Dwarves need a soap mechanic.

Why does a game about dwarves need a clean socks mechanic.

>>16261912

Ever notice how clean shaven and pristine Dwarves our despite the fact that they're constantly mining and digging tunnels which should logically cover them in dirt and soot?

>>16261946

Isn't rock that far down usually not loose enough to make huge amounts of dirt? isn't soot mostly a coal mines thing?

also

>Clean shaven

wasn't this game free?

should I leave my framerate to 100 calculation and 60 display? you know, to get the fortress moving starting along faster while there is not as much shit to process

>>16261912

Yeah! DF should explore this wonderful mechanic in even more detail, such as a full complement of 38 genders and a set of 10 possible preferred pronouns, for all creatures including insects.

>Dungol Tariskhadun is an intersex mosquito. Xzeer body is thin and grey. Xzeer wings are transparent and thin. Xzeeius is biologically intersex, but identifies as a demi-neutrois with a preference for domme-ish butch femmes and leans greysexual. Xzeeius is very egalitarian but supports powerful women in leadership roles and strong female characters. Xzeer enjoys blood for its tangy flavor.

So much win, right reddit? EDIT: Thank you for the gold, kind stranger!

>>16261959

It will start getting loose after you hew it. There's always little bits that fall off and get crushed underfoot into even more dust unless someone sweeps it up.

>>16262066

IT starts at maximum and will reduce slowly over time. The tricks to keep higher FPS longer is a combination of the atom smasher, setting site size to 3x3, reducing layer size, avoiding caves as much as possible, not touching the water since the fluid mechanics don't activate so long as you don't start touching the adjacent blocks, reducing the total civs to a single digit number, culling unimportant history figures, and not going completely retarded on megabeast and HFS varieties. Anything else beyond that outside the game is DFHack tricks which comes with the Newb pack.

>>16256379

Even 1 cent is way too much for digital distribution.

>>16259955

Does steam still track time if you just add the .exe to your library? Why not do that if you really need the overlay?

>>16256389

Trapfags are disgusting on every day of the week, but the ass-birthing is the cherry on the top of mountain of human garbage.

Just how mentally fucked up do you have to be to even think of something like that, and then to be aroused by it?

And why?

There's some major fuck-up going on their brain to actually desire to fuck a man in the ass, but have that man look like a woman. What's the point? If you're gona be gay, the go full gay and just fuck a manly man.

>>16262923

I love trap bait posts like that one because it shows who is a newfag.

>If you're gona be gay, the go full gay and just fuck a manly man

How about not being gay at all, you fucking closeted faggot.

>>16262406

Oh right I also forogt, traffic zoning. Pathfinding eats up a lot of resources so designating high traffic and low traffic areas will benefit you in the long run.

>>16256828

ngl I probably would too if I had to live like that.

>The fence sitting faggot in this thread is ironically a fan of faggots

Imagine

My

Shook

oh hey its about time this game got some gra–

>its the most generic looking POS ever

oh second thought nevermind

>>16262406

Wait wait wait.

I've found hauling items up and down stairs drops FPS more than having dwarves hauling from the same Z level. My forts with very large crafting/storage levels that have a trade depot run way smoother than 15z forts.

>>16269569

Dwarf fortress has been on my bucket list for some time, but now I'm taking it off. I don't want to like another thing developers are ruining.

>>16269596

I think the best course of action would be to get the most current version/ wait until they patch that in and get the latest version before that. The game has enough content as is anyway.

>>16269612

>>>/cow/

i bet you anything toady is fucking the tranny

are there community updates still being made that remove the faggotry shit in dorf fort?

Beyond quality?

More like byond quality.

>>16269569

<I know it's realistic and I appreciate the realism so please take the realism away thanks.

>>16269615

Those are just the games he's mad besides DF. You can also see that one ww1 medic game on the same banner.

>>16269673

when toady bumped up the chance for a dorf to be gay i just made them into my faggot army that were fodder, great use for such a useless creature.

>>16269684

Fuck off this thread was politics from it's inception, since talking about SJWs and their current activities is politics by definition.

>>16269777

Okay, you were definitely derailing a thread, just like you are now.

>>16269569

Is this going to get delete for rule 8?

>>16269805

Rule 8 is applied more if you don't have a post history.

>>16269806

>>16269802

This is what you get for supporting passive faggots, they end up being faggots.

>>16269569

>real world diversity

>one mentally ill faggot in 500 million is intersex or some other bullshit

>>16269777

I hope that tranny dick feels good in your mouth.

>>16269936

So that's a yes?

Imagine a legendary axedwarf throwing a tantrum and going on a murder spree because he had a gender identity crisis.

>>16270021

>Geshud kills Zaneg because Zaneg misgenders Geshud.

>>16270021

At least she can give herself a beautiful axe wound right away without needing to get diagnosed by a bigot medical dwarf, who might not even recognize her as the proud and beautiful independent womyn she really is.

>>16270005

That's a "likely not".

>>16270021

and then the axedorf suicides

Aaaah yes, the essential items to get before embarking:

-food

-drinks

-pickaxes/axes

-anvil

-53 barrels of estrogen

-medical dildos

>>16270050

But he only has 1 post in the thread. That's no post history. Unless you mean on the board as a whole, which is bullshit.

>>16270081

It's directly relevant to the game and discussion about the game so no, it's probably not going to be deleted for rule 8.

What the hell would even cause gender dysphoria in a dwarf world?

>>16270115

Demons and gods with the more evil spheres such as war, disease and chaos

>>16270121

Ah yes, so slaneesh basically?

Anyone involved with CON gets a big NOPE from me.

>>16269569

https://steamcommunity.com/app/975370/discussions/0/1849197902647820115/

In case you want to voice your opinion

>>16270168

No. Anon forgot to mention blight, darkness, deformity, filth(muck), nightmares and torture.

So basically entire Chaos patreon.

>>16270175

CON?

>>16270198

The chaos gods have a patreon?

>>16270211

Crash Override Network.

Incidentally it is actually a con.

>>16256379

>its out

And proud.

>>16270225

I think I made a typo somewhere.

>>16270240

I do own a urethral sound, though.

>>16256484

Well it works for hyenas.

>>16270293

Is there just just one fag here who loves sounding and needs to talk about it in every single thread, or are there just a bunch of you here? Or is someone trying to force it as a meme, like dragon dildos? I see owning a sounding rod mentioned often enough that I need to wonder which it is.

And now I'm wondering. How long until DF has specific fetishes added? Furry dwarves? Zoophile dwarves? Lolicon dwarves? Procedurally generated fetishes to give every dwarf their own unique kink, so one might need to be choked by 3 men wearing cave spider silk hats while EXACTLY 17 barrels of plump helmet wine are slowly poured onto him, and another needs to watch a dog be force-fed cave lobsters while a full band plays his favorite song?

>>16270366

>Is there just just one fag here who loves sounding and needs to talk about it in every single thread

The more degenerate someone is, the more vocal they are about it. So probably.

>>16270366

There's at least 3?

>>16270198

The word you wanted is "pantheon".

>>16269569

You know it was only a matter of time given the crowd Toady surrounds himself with. Doesn't matter if it isn't realistic, or that nobody fucking cares, or that its as anachronistic as putting in modern clothing in 19th century drama, you gotta gib them representation or you're a bigot, bigot.

>>16270591

This is the same guy who made Liberal Crime Squad many years ago, Toady has always been a kind of reverse Kaczynski.

>>16270591

>you gotta gib them representation or you're a bigot

When is he going to add all the other mental illnesses in the world? I sure hope he is not going to be bigoted to all the other unrepresented insane people in the world.

>>16270642

Not just mental illnesses. Got be all the diseases in the textbooks. And disabilities. How do dwarves deal with quadriplegic members of their clan? If you don't represent every single case you are erasing their suffering and are thus an instrument of oppression. Wouldn't want to be that, would you, bigot?

>>16270659

Toady One confirmed for massive bigot.

>>16270679

Bay12 are staffed by progressive extremists. Disagree = get shot.

>>16269569

Finally, now I can make a concentration camp for my tranny elves and slaughter them one by one

>>16256863

Gays in denial. Daily reminder fags reproduce by molesting boys

>>16257422

Kek

>>16257905

Ironic

>>16271027

>Daily reminder fags reproduce by molesting boys

Gays can make little boys pregnant?

>>16269669

If you want to talk realism, sex change didn't exist in the middle ages and trans peoele weren't accepted, they ended up in the bog

>>16271691

No, the gay is an infection. They infect little boys creating more hosts.

>>16271735

They didn't exist.

>Used to joke about how we'd all be old men if DF ever finishes, and toady may die before it does

>Get this

HOW IS REALITY ALWAYS WORSE THAN IMAGINED

>>16270469

>Simulator

>Doesn't go as far into the simulation aspect as possible

So it's a shitty mechanic AND underdone.

>>16271920

<"""""""Inclusiveness"""""""

no amount of moonman will make you fit in quicker lurk 50 more years faggot

>>16262869

Yeah, you can still do that.

>>16270817

Download all of them.

>>16271778

Now I will witness DF dying in my lifetime. What joy.

>>16269569

RIP to all future DF threads I guess. I guess they'll be a tranny tileset coming soon as well.

>>16269592

oh boy

RIP DF. I was fine with the steam version but this at the same time just shows its dead.

>>16269569

Guess it's time to start on that DF clone.

>>16271920

The thing is, they talk on and on about "intersex" people, but have you ever met a born hermaphrodite? It might be realistic to have maybe 1-in-every-1000000 dwarfs get born with both male and female features, but I don't see why that has to be a mechanic.

>>16270642

Mental illnesses are covered. This was a medieval fantasy simulation, and they were referred to as strange moods, going berserk, going stark raving mad, melancholic, etc. etc. You'd actually want your dwarfs to go to the brink of insanity, because it would have them make great works of art, or cause them to become absolutely immune to bloodshed and war, the perfect soldiers.

I can't wait for the shitflinging that will happen when trannies are finally added 10 years form now, and they can't reproduce, then yet again keeps die due to it.

>>16272106

You already have fags and asexuals do that. Best of all, they are born this way, just like the official narrative goes.

>>16272085

True hermaphrodites are extremely rare, to the point that if someone tried to tell me they have met one I would call them a liar. I don't know where such advocacy comes from for more hermaphrodites in games aside from fetishism and not wanting to admit it.

>>16272135

Adding to that, the majority of real life hermaphrodites live as women because doctors usually cut the dick and balls off shortly after birth. They are also always completely sterile because neither the balls or ovaries are functional.

>>16260294

For us, it's raghead and nigs who freeload.

>>16270773

I always wondered if Liberal Crime Squad was an instruction manual

>>16256379

The trailer actually looks promising for a 12$ Upgrade.

I'm willing to give it one chance if it's actually good (I mean, the official graphical upgrade means my eyes won't hurt any more, and the guaranteed workshop support means easier modding). I don't care about the forced LGBTQ inclusions as long as Toady gives it a backstory and some logic, and didn't just put it there to be there.

I'm willing to believe they did this with the best of interest to speed up the development a little. This is not even close to desperate after he refused to Open Source the game due to Financing Issues, and this was made by a 5-man team in a 13 year span.

But that's all it gets, one chance. What do you think?

>>16272889

Its a graphical extension, you can't have more then 1 tile on a space.

>>16272881

I think you are dumb or a liar.

>>16256556

I'll stick with the free version.

>>16272980

How's UK, France, Sweden, Germany, working out for you?

lmao

>>16271914

>I'm gonna go ahead and defend this

That is certainly within your rights. That also makes you a faggot cuck.

>but it in terms of game design

Yeah, the audiences were really clamoring for this shit. I mean, why waste time in improving performance, creating an interface that isn't an abortion, fixing bugs, implementing actually useful stuff when you can virtue signal like a bitch?

>>16272992

Doesn't effect me in Michigan which is what's nice. If you don't like a shit state you can just leave.

Regardless of where you live in the world and how you want to pretend to measure your dick by such, if you don't agree that Toady is a massive faggot for enlisting Canadian social rejects to run a Steam page, then you should get the fuck out.

>>16272996

how's life in a muslim country with freedom to bend over?

>>16272996

Nadie que se respete estaría orgulloso de ser español.

>>16273028

t. Sudaca

>>16273021

how's life in a jewish country with freedom to bend over?

>>16273031

>he thinks I'm a burger

failed, but even muricans have it better than yuoropoors, idk how long tho, all world seems to be turning into hopeless shit

>>16273043

Are you azn then?

>>16273040

He's doing it in multiple threads. I don't think he knows how obvious he is.

>>16273914

It's amazing how quickly Toady managed to crash and burn the whole project. It will only get worse from here since the stupid fuck likely antagonized the majority of his userbase.

>>16272881

There's no upgrade of any kind anon, you can download this graphical "upgrade" for free. The only reason to buy it, is if you're retarded.

>>16272881

>(I mean, the official graphical upgrade means my eyes won't hurt any more, and the guaranteed workshop support means easier modding)

So you're a mental plebeian whose head hurts trying to process anything requiring imagination and you're too stupid to just download a modded DF package. There is a whole site dedicated to that shit.

>>16256639

There are these things in roguelikes called tilesets little guy, they make the game look different…

>This thread gets made well before the bump limit on the old thread

>Adds no new information

>Old thread is locked

Cake kike what the fuck

>>16269663

You can just use dwarf therapist to find all the gays and bis and atomically dwarf smash them out of existence.

>>16270591

>>16270399

>>16269964

>>16269951

>>16269806

>>16269802

>>16269686

>>16269691

>>16269673

>>16269670

>>16269596

>>16269592

>>16269589

>>16269580

>>16269569

>>16256379

>>16256556

>>16256593

>>16256599

>>16256603 (etc.)

I read on one blogpost or somewhere else that Toady had worked with the sjw head of the (((kitsune company))) for years now, and that "he trusted "it to do this fantastically"" (iirc).

This possibly means that Toady's mind was slowly poisoned by the (((sweet whispers of (((they))) and (((their servants: feminazis, sjws, etc.)))))) and that's why he is going to add anachronistical things like (((transexual and intersex dwarves))).

>>16275414

>>16277621

>pronouns for transgender dwarfs are the top priority of dwarf fortress development right now

I never thought I will live to see DF 1.0 release. But apparently I lived long enough for this.

>>16269569

why do you fags have to ruin everything

I was so happy living in ignorance

>>16278709

meh, there has to be a point in which you stop dropping stuff for this kind of shit

otherwise you end up like my ex who cant even watch Friends anymore because she gets triggered every five seconds dodged a bullet right there

>>16278389

Don't worry, we'll have cucks ready to tell you how it doesn't impact the game at all and how only a newfag would complain about it (since if you aren't a newfag, you have always been okay with fags, too, and are therefore a hypocrite if you don't like the slippery slope, which by the way is a fallacy).

>>16272363

That game was supposed to be parody, but I went back and played the maintained version and it turns out reality has turned parody, because now it's too realistic.

Cant wait to write a script to remove toadys transmutations. Or just torture them in new and interesting ways.