/v/ - Video Games

>>15940610

Apparently it's used for most of valve's games. Maybe go for an engine though, like Godot.

>>15940622

I'm not in the process of making a game right now. I'm interested in having more control at a lower level. I might make a platformer later on, but right now I'm mostly just messing around. The reason I ask about cross-platform is because it's something that's important to me, and I don't want to spend a lot of time learning how to use something only to later find out that there is a better tool I should have learned instead.

>>15940640

That's fucking radical.

>>15940640

Nice job.

>>15940640

>I ported my engine to windows 2000 lately

That's really nice, it must be really lightweight. Do you plan on releasing it someday?

>>15940857

Yeah, I do. It was very easy since the only windows XP+ specific part of it was the raw input API. So I just had to check user32.dll for it instead of assuming it was there. I try and write code in a way where it's the most compatible.

Eventually I am going to release a demo of it with the code when I can get most of the core features finished. Right now the most necessary graphics features have been finished but things like lighting, sound, networking, model loading, etc, all needs to be implemented correctly.

You can try playing a demo here: >>>/agdg/32619

I don't have a lot of new features that you can see in the project since that demo. Right now i'm just trying to rewrite most of the Vulkan renderer so that it's usable, and that takes a while because of how much code it needs. The engine targets OpenGL and Vulkan, so you can still use it in OpenGL fine.

>>15940879

This is the actual code that made it compatible:

typedef BOOL (*PFN_RegisterRawInputDevices)(PCRAWINPUTDEVICE pRawInputDevices,UINT uiNumDevices, UINT cbSize);
typedef BOOL (*PFN_GetRawInputData)( HRAWINPUT hRawInput,UINT uiCommand,LPVOID pData,PUINT pcbSize,UINT cbSizeHeader);

PFN_GetRawInputData GetRawInputData_;
PFN_RegisterRawInputDevices RegisterRawInputDevices_;

bool in_raw_init(input_t *in){

	//below windows XP raw input is not supported. so it has to be dynamically linked into the program
	//to be compatible with win2k, etc
	if(!(in->flags & IN_LINKED_RAW_INPUT)){
		HMODULE user32 = LoadLibraryA("user32.dll");
		GetRawInputData_ = (PFN_GetRawInputData)GetProcAddress(user32,"GetRawInputData");
		RegisterRawInputDevices_ = (PFN_RegisterRawInputDevices)GetProcAddress(user32,"RegisterRawInputDevices");
		if(!RegisterRawInputDevices_ || !GetRawInputData_){
			FreeLibrary(user32);
			return false;
		}
	}

	//now give our fp's normal names....
#define RegisterRawInputDevices RegisterRawInputDevices_
#define GetRawInputData GetRawInputData_

>>15940895

Now that i'm reading it again, I should write:

in->flags |= IN_LINKED_RAW_INPUT;

before the first if statement ends.

>>15940879

It works on Linux too right?

>>15940919

Yeah it does. The linux version sucks right now though. But it was ported to linux maybe the summer before last summer. So i've made sure to maintain compatibility with linux, I just need to make some serious effort to clean up the port. It's harder for me to get the same results on linux… XFree86VM sucks and I need to redo a bit of code and see if I can get it to work the way I want it too. I'm working on Vulkan right now though.

It's not as much of a linux port as it is a POSIX/X11 port. Eventually I want to support wayland too. So in theory you could compile my engine on a BSD or other POSIX system with X11 and it would probably work if you also had BSD versions of libwebp, etc. for image decoding.

>>15940935

Ok, that's really nice. Since it's in C, it it ever going to be possible to implement Bullet Physics?

>>15940955

It could definitely load in Bullet through a DLL. I have to confine the FLIF decoder to a DLL too, because it's C++… but I really don't like depending on any C++ code and I might end up dropping FLIF support because the current implementation is a pain to work with. WEBP however is written in C so I think it will probably be fine.

I don't know if you can compile Bullet to be compatible with windows 2000… I hope you can, but I don't know. I have never really had any plans to use Bullet or any other physics engines in my engine- I plan on just writing my own physics code if I want to add complicated physics to the engine. But someone making a game could probably add it at the expense of support.

>>15940965

To me an "old GPU" means that it's too old to support the OpenGL 1.1 feature set, and uses it's own API, like the S3 Virge which uses the S3D graphics API or the Voodoo which uses Glide. This card was supported in the engine for quite a while, just because it had OpenGL 1.4 drivers, I have been testing it on cards similar to it that are a lot faster, like the ATI Radeon Mobility 9000.

Maybe in the future I can support a very old GPU, but I doubt it would run fast at all, like this poor card… It would just be funny to see.

Right now it's basically going to be the most suitable for FPS games, it has the same inherent limitations that something like idtech 3 and goldsrc have with their rendering engines since it's all based on the same idea, it's a BSP-PVS rendering engine.

Modding will just be done the way goldsrc does this- editing some equivalent of hl.dll to create mods, in C- or a total conversion which just uses the DLL interface to the engine, that could be in any language. I plan on writing all of my gameplay code in C though.

>>15941016

I don't know how bullet is written. But C++ is a lot more than the classes. You could refer to it but I don't think that's needed. You just need to know some physics to write a physics simulation, after all…

>>15941378

>>15941093

>>15940640

love you guys, always great to see you post

>>15941378

Can you show a couple of picture from your game? I want to see what it looks like.

>>15940640

How the hell do you handle all the version control? Git? I find Git to be an absolute garbage fire.

>>15941396

Our old pass is pretty ugly and you're not missing much. We don't have much to show at the moment. Maybe as I build up the new battle system I'll post some shots for fun. It's pretty much species centric in terms of art we have. We'll be doing environmental experiments soon enough and more up to date stuff about what we've been doing. Most of our work has been spreadsheets to playtest with and programming, aside from species art. We're also experimenting with music, but we haven't quite narrowed motifs or general feel yet. Watch these spaces though and I'll try to get some cool stuff to show, however bare.

>>15941391

It's good to be working again.

>>15941420

Ok, well I'll just wait until demo day.

What is the game going to be like, Pokemon, Digimon or Jade Cocoon ?

>>15941428

You can think of a heavily modified Pokemon in some way. It plays little like Pokemon, though. We've tried to do some drastic changes to basic assumptions about these kinds of games. I'll recite some of its key selling points in a later update. It's bedtime where I live. Glad to hear you more interested though. Keep an eye out.

>>15941436

Ok, good night m8.

>>15941415

I don't use version control. I have a lot of versions saved because I copy over the project folder so much. I save some of the versions just a snapshot. Maybe git would help… I don't know. I seem to be doing fine like this which is why I never bothered.

>>15941442

You should bother with it, it could help you land a job.

>>15941443

Well i've used it before, I think programming skills are a bigger factor- everyone knows how version control works.

>Spend some time messing with OpenGL 3.3 learning exercise to see what sort of upper threshold of framerate I can get

>Over 13,000 FPS on Windows but barely 700 FPS on MacOS on the same hardware, presumably down to bad drivers or something because I couldn't find any other reason for it after wasting a day investigating

>Get lots of niggling issues fixed on puzzle game

>More and more not feeling the art style or sprites

This week has been a mixed bag so far.

>>15940610

It's fine overall. If you want better rendering performance you'll probably end up dropping their built in renderer and doing your own stuff. It's most popular for abstracting window management and events, I believe.

>>15940640

Good to see you posting progress again!

>>15941449

Yeah I know programming skills matter more but networking is also very important.

>>15941460

Your drivers can optimize your program for you sometimes. What's probably happening is that on macOS it's not doing that, but on windows it is. If that's the case, it means that you haven't actually written your code in the fastest way, and still could make improvements. What are you doing?

>>15941468

I don't understand, do you mean some kind of programming social network like github? Because git isn't a networking platform…

>>15941472

Yeah, I meant github. Sorry I wasn't more clear.

>>15941477

Eventually i'll make my personal website again to post my programs on, but I really do not like github or gitlab or anything like that. I think all of these social networks are a very bad thing and so I wont join them in principle.

>>15941469

It was just a simple triangle test for me to get familiar with VAO/VBO/EBOs etc. So not much more than set up then a loop of binding the VAO, glDrawElements and SDL_GL_SwapWindow.

>>15941499

Pretty interesting… Well, I hope you do figure it out. Maybe what's happening is something like this?:

//original slow code
for(;;){
	bind EBO,VBO,VAO
	draw()
}

//gets optimized into
bind EBO,VBO,VAO
for(;;){
	draw()
}

since, you shouldn't need to continuously rebind your buffers in a loop. The macOS driver might not be optimizing this out, causing the slowdown… But, I don't know OpenGL 3 very well myself, or what your code looks like, so i'm not sure.

>>15941529

I think my thought process was I might end up with multiple VAOs I'd want to swap between, but either way I've tried just binding once before the loop too and it made no difference. It's weird because I only see 8-15% GPU usage in the OpenGL profiler. I would post the generated C but the name mangling from Nim makes it rather an eyesore. Maybe just chalk it up to MacOS being retarded.

>>15941720

That's some nice progress, congratz.

>>15940610

It's very good. I used it for my bachelor's thesis, where it provided a cross-platform way of creating a window and handling input events. I didn't use its rendering features, as I had to develop my own render engine using Vulkan.

>>15941537

Looking pretty good.

>>15940640

Absolute madlad. Will you support even older platforms?

>>15941995

Vega64 has good perf/dollar compared to competition (gtx 1070ti-1080ti depending on scene). For faster stuff, consider looking into workstation hardware. Also, threadripper performs well, but that’s a lot of money since you’ll have to build an entire system. Thrawl the internet for benchmarks, blender specifically.

>>15942316

you probably will not be modeling the water in blender.

In our game, we use some mostly plane mesh with some shaders to make the water surfaces, and box/sphere/cones to mark/forbid "swim zones"

some games can get away with "if your character Y is less than zero, then it's swimming"

>>15942371

So it's just a hole + physics/shaders hackery?

>>15942377

in our game, yes

I assume there are other solutions, but this was the most flexible for us

>>15942381

Ok, thanks for the tip. I'm going to keep looking for solutions online and see what fits but I think this solution is the easiest.

>>15941851

MS DOS, plan 9, and AROS are possible after my software renderer is finished

>>15942772

TinyGL may interest you.

https://bellard.org/TinyGL/

Currently writing for the magic rendering again. I had earlier gotten combat to initiate differently based on which mode it's booted into. Main change between modes is how the logs are read or written to and whether a player has input/can send input, so it's rather simpler than I expected.

>>15942723

I forgot about that wiki stuff. Hadn't been the one who put it up there. It's cool though.

>>15942801

It is interesting and I would pretty easily be able to use it on Linux, and probably could compile it on plan 9, etc, but, I am very interested in writing my own software renderer, I have some ideas for it and goals that this project doesn't have.

>>15943046

Still doesn't look that big, might just be the anlge though. Can we get a sideview of that?

>>15943399

I agree, but my brother thinks that there is such a thing as "too big" for 2D girl

Does anyone here actively follow any game development streams?

>>15943643

>This is not a porn game you thirsty niggers

And she's a cow, so your statement is irrelevant.

>If we increase more than .35 it starts glitching the clothes

That's a bug, not a feature.

>>15943556

All the ones I found on Twitch were cringy.

>>15943556

I have thought of doing some, but I'm a pretty boring person when I'm focused and working. That, and early dev is harder to stream since you may not have much interesting to show yet. My case is like that, at least. I guess it'd be good to force focusing on the task at hand though. I figured most dev streamers would line up with what >>15943662 is saying.

>>15943643

>This is not a porn game

yet, we are making it mod friendly for a reason

>>15943643

>If we increase more than .35 it starts glitching the clothes

Well lad, I believe you have a bug that needs to be fixed. Urgently.

How does it feel knowing your games are illegal without a blind gamer mode?

>>15943556

Not really, this thread is the closest I come to to following devs.

I'd rather spend my time actually developing

>>15944988

what kind of over regulating tyrannical government would instill such an arbitrarily defined law?

>>15943556

I watch the development of an mmo:

>>15945000

He's full of shit.

>>15945006

see

>>15943585

>>15945000

>what kind of over regulating tyrannical government would instill such an arbitrarily defined law?

It looks like it's only going to be a problem if you allow electronic communication between players

>>15944988

Good luck playing my bullet hell shmup blind.

>>15945148

also, to be clear, communication is the context of person to person communication.

As in, person <-> person, NOT, person <-> NPC

Ok does anybody have any good tutorials for Vulkan that actually explain how things work? Like what is the relationship between an Image, an ImageView, a RenderPass, a Subpass, and a Framebuffer? Also how do I git gud at it?

>>15945206

https://vulkan-tutorial.com ?

>>15945206

The short answer is that it's complicated and you CANT just "read" how it works. Every single tutorial made for Vulkan just amounts to you copying the author's 2000+ line program word for word with explanations that you won't understand the first time that does things without being able to tell you WHY. Just follow the tutorials, like API without secrets, Vulkan-Tutorial, LunarG vulkan sample, whatever…. talk to people who understand it… eventually the understanding should start to rub off on you…

You're going to have to rewrite your programs a couple times before anything really works correctly.

>>15945321

This is the one I've been following but the validation layer is screaming at me when I close the program and quite frankly I'm still not sure how anything works.

>>15945354

Oh. ok.

>>15945384

> the validation layer is screaming at me when I close the program and quite frankly I'm still not sure how anything works.

This is all normal. I'm rewriting some Vulkan code too currently…

>>15945625

Thanks, it should resemble an actual video game by the summer I hope.

Well, today I've learned how to texture things in blender. It's easy but it's a mess.

Is there a text editor that shows me the function definition when my text cursor is in the arguments?

>>15944988

I came up with a solution.

>>15946424

There has to be a Vim or Emacs plugin for this.

>>15946613

>how the fuck is a small dev supposed to comply with all of that?

They're not supposed to, they're supposed to fail. I think some big studios like ubisoft are trying to corner the game market for themselves to push for as much poz and make as much money as they can.

>>15945978

It gets really easy if you make your own custom UV maps

>>15946434

There is: https://github.com/Andersbakken/rtags

>>15946843

It's complete horseshit in the context of games. Listen a bit to embed related. (Start at 2 minutes)

The CVAA was meant to be about phones & shit. The fact that e-readers & games were also included wasn't intended, but they are "thrilled" (quote) about that.

>>15945978

Get the TexTools addon.

http://renderhjs.net/textools/blender/

>>15947006

>an/a errors everywhere

fuck me my grammar is all fucked today

>>15940610

Using it for input event handling and window creation. Also I have to use their timer since the OS wait is a hard one, time literally stop and I can't get a measurement for FPS… Or I could alleviate that with checking with a system time call instead… I'll test and think about it.

The rest like rendering/object management/quaternion stuff/else is done by my code.

Haven't done much since I got demands at work. I did basic work for frontend, and then the code grew by another person in an interesting but really messy way. Need to sift through and arrange this.

Still continuing explosion rendering, I did at least the basic framework that I have yet to test with framebuffer switching, and those framebuffers have Multiple Render Target. Had to read a bit about how to do it.

Hopefully I'll manage to render something "soon"™

>>15946843

Subpart B - Definitions

>(i) the term electronic messaging service means a service that provides real-time or near real-time non-voice messages in text form between individuals over communications networks

>>15947175

Their bounce looks weird. Like she stuck a thin plastic bag filled with a very viscous fluid inside her pullover. And on top of that, rather than bouncing up and down, they grow and shrink.

>>15947256

>Real-time text (RTT) or RTT communications means text communications that are transmitted over Internet Protocol (IP) networks immediately as they are created, e.g., on a character-by-character basis.

Doesn't apply to dark souls communication, it's not real time and not on a character-by-character basis (preselected/pre-defined words, word-by-word, not character-by-character), it's also peer to peer, and is based on adjacent to the sign placed; completely different beasts.

if u want sources, it's an interlinked mess but here's the sources:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/67.1

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/14.10

https://www.fcc.gov/document/twenty-first-century-communications-and-video-accessibility-act-2010

There's also small entity exceptions

>Software Publishers: $25 million or less in

annual receipts

>source: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-11-151A1.pdf

Basically, it doesn't matter for a lot of indies, and non-traditional communication mechanics side-step these regulations due to not falling under the authority of this regulation.

Or at least, even if they do, and it's a mechanic; it'll be eviscerated in court due to being unconstitutional violations of freedom of expression; as mentioned.

>>15947628

people got seriously butt blasted last time this was posted for this

>>15947678

pls no sacrilege.

>>15947864

Yeah, they still bounce in the wrong direction. After her cute spin, the boobs get pushed in, again, looking like they're inflating. I see that she takes a step back, but it's still way too much.

I'm not sure how wrong it would look with smaller breasts, but I don't think you shouldn't just lower the size limit. I've programmed enough dirty hacks like that to know that they'll likely cause other problems in future. Invest the time into making a proper solution. It'll work for all characters after all, and you'll already know how to do it in future projects that may need it.

>>15948247

>>15948333

But it's just boobs in a non-porn game. Why go through all the effort? Might as well just focus on the gameplay.

>>15948368

>what is attention to detail

>>15948247

We are not adding more bones for this

>>15948333

We will callibrate it a bit more and see what can be done, if stays weird we will lower the effect and have less bounce

>>15948368

Just a bit of fan-service and extra detail

>>15943556

I used to follow twitch.tv/xra_ because he plays great music, is working on a game with cool looking game and is ultrachill. Just checked in on him and he is streaming as I post this.

>>15947581

Small entity exemption was temporary; expired on 10/8/13.

How do I do full character motion blending in Godot? Sort of like in OoT or Majora's Mask.

>>15949543

lerp?

>>15949580

Some time ago, I wrote a plugin that helps with that (among other things).

https://don't use link shorteners.com/y9r9blkx

The wiki of the repository has some information. The tool you're looking for is "Normalize World Scale". After you use it on your UVs, you simply select all and scale them to whatever you want.

>>15950255

>don't use link shorteners

Don't tell me what to do: https: // don't use link shorteners. com/y9r9blkx

>>15946613

Just make a retard mode.

>>15950278

Oh cool, I've wanted this for a while.

>>15950278

>>15950259

>>15950255

Thanks m8.

>>15950526

>>15950695

I wrote this set of tools specifically for making a Hammer-like workflow easier in Unreal. Check out the repo's wiki. The "Project from normal" tool helps you with faster unwrapping, the "Explode UV islands" and deferred translation tools help you align everything so you get no seams.

In Godot how would one go about rendering a 2d scene onto the UV of a 3d object? I want to make a computer scene render to a computer screen.

>>15951681

Viewports

https://github.com/godotengine/godot-demo-projects/tree/master/viewport/2d_in_3d

>>15951731

Thanks, that's exactly what I needed.

>>15946613

>If so, you literally cannot just cut that feature for the US.

You could cut the note out of a Souls Game and it would still work just fine. Nioh's bloody grave mechanic is a nice alternative and in my opinion is preferable.

The whole thing's still complete bullshit though.

>>15941093

I'll post a demo link in the morning assuming I fixed a dependencies issue with sprite textures. Just got proper sprite rotation working, so now I have everything I need to start testing game elements. Debug demo tomorrow. I have these planned for this month:

> UI fix/new windows

> Action Computer

> Security Camera

> Sentry Gun

> Trip Laser

How much was it for you for a composure?

>>15946613

Eventually someone will just make a tutorial for retards, so I wouldn't worry.

>>15953874

There's a reason FOSS often have terrible UI's, if any. It's not just tedious work, but often feels redundant since you can do without it with you command line.

>>15953874

1. Define your problem. Figure out what the player needs and what problems you are trying to solve.

2. Outline solutions to these problems that fit your criteria and fit in your environment.

3. Categorize these into groups. What do you need for a minimum viable product, and what is less necessary?

4. Create diagrams that show the flow of information. Where does the health bar get it's health information from? Where can an inventory send objects, from where can it receive objects? What mouse/keyboard/controller input does this UI need? Just create flow charts and UML diagrams at this point. If you code too much you may end up throwing away a lot when things change, or be reluctant to change something for the better when it means throwing out a lot of code.

5. At this point you can categorize the dependency order. What depends on what? What should you work on first, and what should you save until other things are completed?

6. Where should the elements fit on screen? How should it be displayed? Use a wireframe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Website_wireframe to roughly lay out elements.

7. Make it pretty.

8. Code the UI.

While this is presented as a straight line and in general each step builds on the step before, you don't have to follow the order perfectly and shouldn't if that disrupts your workflow. If you have an idea write it down. Don't save it in your head until you reach the right step, save it on paper or in a text file.

While coding is the last step that just means coding the final UI. You should be building prototypes where and when you can at any step and for any element you think needs one. Unsure if something will work in code, or if you can do something in your given environment with the given tools? Try to code it and see if it works. Just don't get too attached. Sunk cost fallacy is a bitch.

>>15953922

>it's hard so I'm not going to do it

One of the reasons why FOSS tends to fucking suck compared to proprietary alternatives.

>>15950724

I've just checked it and I don't even know how to install addons.

>>15954422

Just use notepad instead :^)

>>15955183

You should've said so from the beginning, I wouldn't of wasted time on that post.

>>15955248

>You should've said so from the beginning, I wouldn't of wasted time on that post

How would I know you wouldn't come up with a new revolutionary idea? :^)

I thought about posting the current version and such a note, but ended up never doing because it's not all that different than the previous one, even if it got better

>>15954838

Do you not know how to search the web?

>>15943556

thinmatrix on youtube he was developing this 3d mmorpg

>>15955274

kek

prepare for bully with your low-effort boob physics :^)

in reality nbd, it's not my game

also boob-physics is still boob-physics, and that effort will make most people happy

>>15955183

They're looking at supporting .NET Core and C#7, which will be a huge game changer as the language syntax becomes so much nicer and the new Span and Memory constructs combined with ref properties and ref returns are a huge deal as it lets you treat value types as reference types, but I think it's still early days for that so it's not on the roadmap yet.

Microsoft rewrote all their internal stream logic and other stuff to use it so I think the benefits can't be stressed enough.

>>15956737

Because while forge solved the problem of mod conflicts, it became bloated to the point of obsolescence.

I'll essentially be rewriting most classes to use saner methods that will make adding new blocks, items or whatever simple enough that external json files could be used to do so.

>>15957059

>>15957144

I knew that a lot of mod incompatibilities stemmed from this, but I always felt like minecraft's biggest issues were with its rendering code. I think Optifine fixes about as much as you reasonably can without rewriting the whole damn thing, but I've never looked at the source code myself. I'm also not familiar enough with OpenGL to recognize janky code.

Are you planning on reworking the rendering stuff as well?

>>15957161

I can try, it does need reworking to fix caves rendering before terrain but I have no idea what the root cause is. It's a hell of a big project and there's too many classes to count, so I'm just chipping away at it little by little.

I'll probably take a break from refactoring classes and add a couple things just to keep my interest fresh, break up the monotony.

>>15957161

Minecraft basically needs to be redone from scratch to be truly fixed. Minetest has most of the same flaws so I don't consider it to be a good example….

agdq is fag central, they ban any and all conservative players who don't agree with sjw/lgbtq/feminist/liberal propaganda.

agdq is garbage incarnate.

>>15957939

Lurk more you colossal retard.

>>15953687

Had to work tonight and slept most of the day, I was up a long time the day before. I wrote a bunch of place holder scripts for Player and Inventory management, as well as a planned tilemap culling manager. At least opened Blender to start making 3d models for a camera and sentry gun but ran out of time and also couldn't remember how to scale mesh transform snap increments. But i at least made a project file, I need to find out how to texture my walls, floors, and a security camera by tomorrow.

>>15958103

I can't tell what it's doing.

>>15957939

AGDG and AGDQ are two very different things, as hinted at by the completely different letter at the end and the OP that doesn't mention anything about speedrunning but for some reason talks about game development. I know it's hard to distinguish the two because these differences are so small, but learning to read might prove vital to your continued existence so I urge you to better yourself and overcome this tremendous conondrum.

>>15958103

>gpu powered neural network that doesn't do everything it should and is pretty much slower than the existing apps that do this via cpu

So this… is the power of Unity… woah…

>>15958454

was trying to get it to successfully make deepfakes

first part of that is to correctly get it to down/upscale an image

when i'm actually sure it works as it should, i''m supposed to let the net run with the original/target image and get the encoder to work correctly for both of them, or something like that

at gen 22k right now with loss 0.29 and the only real progress is that the encoded image finally turned blue-ish instead of just gray

>>15958594

But the original image isn't bluish…

>>15958658

I don't know anon I'm like a kid looking at calculus here. Good luck though, I hope more people make neural net products for local pc's.

>>15956641

your second pic is the secret behind never getting fired of your codemonkey job

>>15957952

The second one looks tired, make it slightly lighter and it's good.

I'm still experimenting with Blender 2.8, Haxe, and my Mini-Mart game prototype. However, so many bugs in the Blender game system. I don't think it's ready for anything real yet.

My own rendering engine using OpenGL 4 is decent. However, I started down the road implementing shadow maps .. and did not have a good time due to how I had organized my scene rendering. It doesn't support multi-pass easily without a significant amount of effort - required to render the shadowmap pass.

Now I've started using Bgfx library, using it to replace my rendering system. Has anyone used Bgfx here? What do you think of it? So far, I'm pretty happy and have been spending time building game code instead of working on my own rendering system.

>>15959556

>They didn't just use a single texture with different Color attributes to begin with

NOTCH

>>15959772

It will happen, and I'll feel very accomplished, quit my current job, and start to dev fulltime.

>>15958884

Is the third pic orthographic? If so you're right that perspective is fucking with your model, or alternatively your model is flawed in a way that only shows up in perspective.

Other than that, to me it seems the eyes and nose aren't positioned correctly in relation to the ears, or his ears are just massive. Also the nose and lips could use more definition in the frontal view.

Are you using reference or just eyeballing it?

>>15959772

I would invest the money into an index fund and keep going to school so I can eventually get a good paying stable job. If I made a lot of money then I would buy some Swiss and American trusts and put a small percentage into several higher risk investments.

>>15960336

oof, apparently my sense of time is also wrong, 5 minutes in real life is 2 minutes in crazy gpuland

>>15959772

I'd be genuinely surprised because my game is niche and inaccessible. It would make me more motivated to keep working on it. I'd enjoy watching people play and seeing the strategies they come up with. I'd use their experiences to make the game better.

>>15960271

In Notch's defense, he was just doing it as a hobby and built it up, much like anons here. He just hit it big and never had an opportunity that made sense to scrap it and recode it properly. I'm pretty sure he knows a lot better now.

In general, it's probably best to start out with smaller projects rather than dive into my convoluted dream project, correct? What are some interesting ideas for small but fun projects?

>>15960729

Come up with a simple idea for a Roguelike, and don't let feature creep take over.

>>15960749

bad news, my dream project is a roguelike with lots of convoluted mechanics

>>15960753

That's great, make a simple one with very basic interactions and mechanics, and then make a sequel or two that builds on what you know

>>15960774

I see what you mean, solid advice. thanks

>>15960583

Thinking of changing it to "It beckons", but I'm taking suggestions.

>>15960729

It depends. I can't learn if I don't give a shit and I don't give a shit if it's not my dream project. It's meant that I've had to make rewrites several times after learning new things, or less commonly, because old features were incompatible with new requirements, like cyrilic characters.

>>15960729

Big projects can often be broken down into smaller easier to manage chunks if you'd prefer that and don't mind redoing stuff a few times. Either way is fine though.

>>15960729

http://inventwithpython.com/blog/2012/02/20/i-need-practice-programming-49-ideas-for-game-clones-to-code/

http://www.squidi.net/three/

for your reading pleasure

>>15960271

I don't see anything wrong with duplicating the wool textures, it's more flexible for texture pack creators and doesn't require a separate shader and vertex format for wool. Though if he had implemented colored lighting he could have multiplied the wool color into the vertex color at no cost. Anything more complicated than that would have been too much for the old school fixed function OpenGL he was using.

>>15960729

Clone a game.

Make a renderer for an existing game's levels.

"Demake" a more complicated game into a simpler form.

>>15962015

More flexible in that they can give each color a different texture perhaps, but I don't know of any texture pack that does that.

Still, these are things that all could have been simplified, and the wool color can be multiplied because there's already functions in place that do this for grass and leaves.

I almost have it implemented to work for wool but I have to spend some time figuring out why it's modifying the render color of nearby wool and applying the wrong color to placed wool.

>>15962104

>More flexible in that they can give each color a different texture perhaps, but I don't know of any texture pack that does that.

Generally speaking multiplied colors look ugly, artists get a better result when they select each shade by hand.

>>15962292

>multiplied colors look ugly

If you're multiplying white by anything you get just the color you multiply by, as could be seen in the short clip I posted here >>15959833

the problem with the method I was using for that is that it gets called many times in rendering where I thought it was only called once, leading existing blocks to have their color re-rendered

>>15962309

I should have explained what I meant better. Taking a pure grayscale wool texture and multiplying it by green etc. makes the resulting palette look boring because everything is the same hue. You would get prettier results if you selected colors manually so for instance you could make the darker shades cooler and the lighter shades warmer. I'm not an artist but I know that "shading to black" is one of the things they always chastise beginners for doing, it makes everything look dull and lifeless. That's the value of doing this by hand, of course nobody is going to draw a different texture for each shade of wool but they might use unique colors. You could do this in a shader (literally just a palettized texture) but Notch was working with classic fixed function OpenGL and even if he hadn't it would have made all of his code messier for a single use case.

This is more of an ideaguy thing, but has there been a city management game, but one where there's a lead time on your decisions? Eg, set the budgets for the upcoming year, demolishing a building/zone takes 2-6 months of game time, etc

>>15962309

>>15962416

I do wish that modern software/hardware supposed color indexing. Instead, you're expected to use shaders (which I suppose works fine), or else premade assets with a variety of colors.

>>15962574

Shut up and post progress

>>15962616

Great, looking forward to seeing your progress next week :^)

Can't stop can't stop if I stop I'll never start again

>>15962619

th-thanks.

I was thinking about ways to obfuscate my game's replay data. Not enough to stop cheating, just I don't want players to grab a replay file from another user and use it as their own. Each entry in the replay file is a piece of timestamped data that is only 4 bytes in length, plus maybe a header on the replay file itself.

Would a simple xor the checksum work to stop naive editing?

The worst, the WORST part of dev is having to deal with someone else's bullshit systems and libraries. Every fucking time I have to touch something that someone else made I start to hate software development.

Just filter and/or report

>>15962752

I have to frequently take a step back because I hate thing. I've done this so much over the last few years I still have nothing made. I've hopped from engine to framework to library, to almost making my own before realizing that's retarded, and went back to frameworks.

I'm using SFML and I even had to fix a few bugs and recompile it; still have my own engine on top of it

>>15962752

>>15962760

I've been thinking software rendering would be a good way to avoid this shit. Just use SDL or write some platform code to set up a framebuffer and an audio buffer and forget the rest of the world exists. 2D is trivial, 3D is harder but it probably takes less time to implement a basic unoptimized software renderer than it does to get through the bullshit of modern opengl/d3d/god forbid vulkan.

>>15962739

>comes into a thread

>demands other people to do his job for him

>claims he is not the problem

The answer to your original question is "fucking google it you dumb retard".

Having a learning disability doesn't mean other people are obligated to do your job for you.

>>15960583

looks like some sort of "i have no mouth and i must scream" thing but i can't relate that to color

Hypothetically how hard would it be to make some kind of a P2P system that allows the game to find available game servers and make new servers available without relying on a central authority server? Basically the game client should be able to find user servers even if the developer explodes along with all their servers.

I have no idea how distributed systems work

>>15962913

I haven't even gotten to platform specific code yet, anon. Though, I do want to keep my codebase universal.

All the game mechanics, core loop etc, are in the process of being extracted into it's own little namespace with no dependencies so it can just exist on it's own. Then, I'll add IO, audio, feedback stuff on top of it

>>15962981

It's not "hard", there's just a few problems you have to solve.

Building up a pool of P2P peers is not hard. All you need to do is ask all your current peers for their peers, filter out the ones you don't want (e.g. those with poor latency) and continue querying peers that have favorable qualities. (good latency) Eventually you'll build up a pool of people near you.

The problem is that you

1. Need an initial entry point. If your client knows even one peer of the network, it can make its way in.

2. Need enough peers to sustain a network.

#2 means enough people are playing your game to make keeping up a central authority commercially viable. #1 means you need some authority in place, which also defeats the point.

Instead of being retarded and fucking with peer2peer, how about you just let people host their own dedicated servers and call it a day?

If you really need that server list, dump it on Steam as a free game. They'll maintain one for you at no cost. If you code your game to not depend on it (like Factorio did), then even if Steam explodes people can still host dedicated servers and come up with their own solutions for finding servers.

>>15962990

SFML is platform specific code. More specifically it's a wrapper around some platform specific tasks.

All i'm saying is, to write those tasks yourself- then you can use your own layer around it, but it will be on your own terms. I think that's the best way to do it… I've been working on code like this: >>15962851 somewhat. Ideally to write some programs that can work on platforms that don't easily get a lot of support. You can't do that with SDL or SFML though. They only work on the most popular platforms…

>>15962981

"Trackerless" Bittorrents use a distributed hash table, or DHT. You can read about it here

http://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0005.html

The problem is bootstrapping, what >>15963018 mentioned. A new person has to get into the DHT network somehow. How does one do that from nothing? The secret is that it's not from nothing. There is a hard-coded entry-point (central authority, defeating the purpose) or it looks towards DHT clients previously encountered in the swarm. You could start out with a central authority but continually ship updates that include the most recent and relevant DHT.

So when the servers explode, killing everyone and everything related to the official development, someone pirating the most recent official version can still connect to the network because it has a good DHT. Then if long after the explosion the latest official release doesn't contain a relevant DHT, if some active member of the community in 2345 A.D. puts up their version of the game for download it will contain their DHT and new people will have an in to whatever community exists in that future.

As an extra measure you could let people save their DHT as a shareable file that could be spread around when the servers go down. That way if the DHT only contains the IP of the person who put it up for download, everyone who downloads that file will quickly build up a new swarm, and that new, better, more reliable DHT can be put up for download soon after so new down-loaders have a wider entry point. Then if that original guy falls off the face of the earth like the developers it doesn't matter because the later DHT still gives an in to the swarm.

Once the program establishes a connection through the DHT, it's all downhill from there. Preform key verification, update the local DHT, sort by the people playing the game mode you want on the map you want, find the lowest latency, and establish a direct connection.

Or you can be reasonable and just let people host their own servers.

>>15962981

You just need to make the master sever software available. Quakeworld for example has community operated master servers and it works fine.

>>15963042

>SFML is platform specific code

SFML might be, but my code that uses it is platform agnostic.

>>15950893

why does she have a mesh under her shirt?

>>15963125

That won't let users find any servers. If someone downloads the game they should ideally be able to see a list of servers just like that.

Anyway sounds like you'll need to manually add trackers or something into the game after all.

>>15962665

Why do you care?

>>15962547

Ah, now I get what you mean.

I may need to dip into the rendering code anyway, because some things I think wouldn't look good with a multiplier but need their color palette switched, and after doing a comparison of my new wool blocks vs. the vanilla ones I see the color doesn't really match up. Red for instance, my class is brighter, vanilla looks dull and washed out.

>>15962665

>>15963920

Yeah now that I think about it, how is modifying replays cheating?

>>15963501

God I wish i wasn't stuck on C#4.5

In using VS2010 and can't use a later version because it needs a Windows update I can't install

>>15964049

Just use MonoDevelop. Stay away from Microsoft IDEs.

>>15964065

>Stay away from Microsoft IDEs.

Why?

>>15964065

Oh right I forgot about that. Does it still use projects and solutions or just raw code files?

>>15964081

It's Microsoft

>>15964095

>Does it still use projects and solutions or just raw code files?

It uses projects, solutions, and templates just like Visual Studio. Only problem is that the Windows version is source-only.

>>15964555

why is it so slow?

>>15964558

training is slow because mutations are random, except for the last layer, because i can't figure out how backpropagation works

actual speed is slow because the mutations take forever. just mutating the first layer takes a while, image is 256x256, that's like 65k pixels, *3 for the 3 color channels. and the next layer has 64 neurons, so that's 65k*3*64 weights that it has to go through. it's as fast as i can make it

>>15964107

https://www.monodevelop.com/developers/building-monodevelop/

Yeah I can see that now. I was just about to give it a go, but this is something I am very bad at, and I don't have a git or any way to do it.

For all the "one touch solutions" they promote with doing like automatic package installation and downloading, you'd think they'd also provide a compiled exe for people that want to do it in one touch in a simpler way

>>15940593

>>Please contribute to the fucking wiki NOW if you can

yes, please write something for the language pages

>>15964574

Well it is open-source so you could probably find a binary on a third-party site. If not, there is also SharpDevelop (http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/Default.aspx) but I don't know how it compares to MonoDevelop. Or if you don't mind using Vim, there's OmniSharp (https://github.com/OmniSharp/omnisharp-vim).

>>15964037

Submitting to scoreboards and claiming someone else's replays as your own.

>>15964065

>don't use visual studio or vscode

>use monodevelop instead

>because corporations bad, open source good

Yeah, it rapes your registry and whatnot, so isolate it from your day to day PC image if you like, but advising people against it for open source trash is not the best thing for them if they have aspirations to work as a C# dev for money. It's not like it's bad, and they may as well be building marketable skills whilst they work on their passion project; VS is too prolific in industry for people to complain about vendor lock in unless you're absolutely positively sure you'll never work in a C# job in your life. Plus the low tier is free.

It's the same way that using Photoshop at home may be worth it if you fancied a job in graphics/advertising, etc.

>>15964163

So at first I thought the rendered held block was taking the color of the item with the highest metadata value in the player inventory, then I tried dropping a couple and picking them up in different orders, and found that it sets the color of the held block to whatever the metadata of the last picked up block was. This may be because of my trying to use my integer to set the meta value of the block when texture is set. So I'll have to figure out how to get the actual meta value of the item held.

>>15966040

As quick as I posted this, figured out the solution…

Was exactly what I thought it was and now I see I don't need to use this custom integer at all.

>>15964065

MonoDevelop is primarily developed by xamarin; they're a Microsoft subsidiary (owned by microsoft).

>>15966223

Who doesn't?

>>15963440

Because all clothes are equippable, making new outfits is easier this way

All humanoid girls share the same model with different proportions/textures/clothes, only the non-humanoids (mermaid, lamia, spider, etc…) will require a new model

>>15966223

Do I fear of becoming pocahontas?

>>15966274

I picked her because she has the dead eyes of someone who's entire life is a lie.

>>15964065

Microsoft IDEs are intuitive broken horseshit, but I have to learn it at some point because of the industry standard meme.

Is there a way for it to compile C++ code after C#? I can't get started with UE4 at all because of it. If there's a method to use UE4 with codeblocks then I'm all for it.

>>15966311

>Microsoft IDEs are intuitive broken horseshit, but I have to learn it at some point because of the industry standard meme.

Microsoft's business strategy in a nutshell.

>>15966223

This is why i quit my job

>>15966223

tbh I quite enjoy being a factory worker. Have a shit ton of free audio to listen too while working(podcasts, audio books and music). And when I get home I can enjoy my hobby without it becoming tedious.

>>15966223

Yeah, I've been working on a game for 4 months and it's not far from being done, but most of my energy is sapped by the time I get home from work, so I have to rely on days off to make any decent progress.

>>15966327

This is what I'm doing before I start my next game.

>but that's a bad idea

I've worked full-time jobs for almost 4 years and it makes me want to kill myself, so I won't be much worse off this way. Worst case scenario is that I have to get another job when I run out of money, if I even feel like continuing life into my 30s.

>>15966270

NEETs

>>15966223

Fortunately, I was fired at the beginning of the year. Now I'm full time aggy daggy until I find a new job.

>>15967451

>Fortunately, I was fired

Only in /agdg/ can you hear these words

>>15966150

I thought they only owned the Mono framework but as long as it remains FOSS and cross-platform, it should be fine.

>>15966325

More like the business strategy of every "industry standard". Make shit software, but everyone still uses it because brand recognition.

>>15966223

I prefer lifeless bot coworkers over the rude customers that I have to deal with at work but it gives me motivation to continue with my passion project, so I never have to work in customer service again.

>>15968542

You need a well drawn face reference.

>>15967451

I've never been fired, but it's hard enough finding a job with good references and a solid record. What does someone do when they get fired?

>>15968857

I live in a shithole, so I had to sign a remission contract, wait for the good will of the RH to do the paperwork then got paid for the days I worked.

can someone suggest any good resources for learning RPG Maker VX Ace?

>>15966223

do what i did and get a job that's mostly repetitive physical labor

that way when you get home from work your body is tired but your brain is still good to go for a few hours of aggy daggy

>>15968648

>how to maintain the project on Windows

What do you mean?

>>15966223

It's not forever if you properly manage your finances.

>>15968648

>My only worry after I finish will be figuring out how to maintain the project on Windows.

Just dev on any GNU/Linux distro, preferably Ubuntu for stability. You can also get a decent setup with powershell, git, and notepad++ if you want to stick with windows.

>>15969815

it's useful later on for inheritence and polymorphism

>>15969823

Its totally useless. This particle system has so much indirection that it's going to rape the cache when you try and do anything with it. You're literally dumping a million tiny allocations into your heap allocator which, beyond making all of your allocations slower, lowers utilization and creates an incredible amount of memory fragmentation. You're going to miss the cache multiple times for every particle. Beyond that it's literally impossible for your compiler to optimize it properly with all of that indirection. It can't vectorize anything…

>>15969893

It's just for pedagogical purposes. Someone using Java isn't going to need to know about memory fragmentation, allocations, or cache, that's kind of the point of it.

Here's what my base particle stuff usually looks like in C#

public struct Vector2f
{
	public float X;
	public float Y;
}

public struct Particle
{
	public Vector2f Position;
	public Vector2f Velocity;
	public float Life;
	public float LifeMax;
}

public delegate void ParticleEffect<T>(T[] particles, int start, int count);

>>15969915

You are going to need to know about those things if you want to write a particle system that performs reasonably. It's not like you can't benefit from an understanding of those things, even when using Java. That system isn't going to be able to handle a large amount of particles.

>>15969939

you missed the part where it uses an arraylist, which shifts everything left every time a particle dies

>>15969962

Christ, why? Just use an array with a counter

>>15969939

I'm siding with the other Anon. For a beginner, that's perfectly adequate. Getting something done is better than obsessing over details and never finishing anything.

Of course, once you have the basics down, learning about why you shouldn't really have done it that way is the next step.

>>15969962

It deletes objects out of the arraylist and then adds them back without just reinitializing the object… so it doesn't even reuse allocations. Beyond that the arraylist shifting doesn't mean what you think it means. You can implement that behavior in two ways… either the arraylist is an array of pointers onto the heap, or the arraylist is an actual array. So, you have two ways the JVM can implement this- if it's an array of pointers onto the heap, then memory is fragmented everywhere, and you can miss the cache just about every time as you iterate through it. But what's even worse is if it was implemented as a real array, because then you would just end up copying around hundreds of particles in memory just to delete one, which is why I don't think that the arraylist is a real array. Either way both of these methods are horrible for a particle system. This also doesn't do anything about the fact that a class that has other classes as its fields is basically a whole other level of indirection that the arraylist cant solve…

>>15969973

The wider problem is that doing things the right way isn't really possible in Java. You can do things better than that tutorial, but it's ultimately going to be bad because the language by design doesn't allow you to reason about memory layout and optimization, which is what you need to be able to do to write a particle system correctly.

>>15970118

Does Java even have user-specified value-type objects / structs like C# does?

>>15970162

When I read your post, I thought that you were trying to say that the arraylist would be able to do something that solved the problems I was describing earlier… Putting it into an array list does nothing to solve the fundamental problems it has, so when I said it doesn't mean what you think it means, I was telling you that it didn't do anything to solve the problem. The way you wrote your post implies that you think this property of the arraylist is meaningful to the problem in some way.

Anyway the call to System.arraycopy should be doing one of the behaviors I described internally.

>>15969146

I'll have to make an executable for windows (which I don't know how to do) and make it so I don't have to change it every time a new update comes around.

>>15970397

Isn't one of the main benefits of Python that it's cross platform? Or am I missing your point?

>>15970458

>One solution I tried was to pick a random spot, and if it was occupied by the player, pick a different spot. But this caused a crash once the player reached a certain length.

Why would it crash, unless there weren't any spaces left at all? You should take another look at your solution.

>>15970649

Need some normal noise on that concrete, but otherwise it looks pretty good.

>>15970588

That’s what i thought initially, and I thought my loop must have been fucked somehow. But I couldn’t figure out what it what. I’ll have to take another look. also pardon the ID change

>>15970649

Your work is good, you've clearly got talent and experience, but the actual buildings are non-sensical to me, it looks like you are trying to emulate brutalist architecture with it's large concrete structures and windowless facades but at the same time it looks designed form over function, also the giant heads don't fit at all, and neither do the statues, on top of that the central building looks better without the addons, they are too large and should build up the the central structure naturally, they feel like they are crowding it rather than complimenting it's form, it looks as if it should dominate these subordinate branches.

The building itself looks like it's been set from a cast instead of assembled in pieces. the pipes are a great addition, as is the actual base of the building being below ground level.

>>15970777

What's the exact problem? Unreal uses C++, but its build system is written in C#.

>>15970458

A more robust solution would be to track the tiles current occupied by the player, either through a list, or a fixed-size array (eg make an array such that one entry is one cell). Then, when the player moves, you only need to remove to tail cell and add the head cell. When food is collected, you don't need to remove anything, just add.

Then, you'd call the random function against a random unoccupied tile. You wouldn't have to worry about picking an occupied cell in that case.

test test

>>15971269

It's an improvement. When you look at the final build of the main building it's kind of stupidly dense, it would be easy to missclick, especially with how intricate the actual buildings graphics themselves are, and even then it isn't very visually pleasing. Your main structure doesn't get any larger either, so it will slowly become engulfed by the buildings surrounding it.

I recommend you find more places to place team colour, I don't think that the flags are enough.

Are the other buildings the same but with statues on top or are they visually distinct, it would be important to make each different structure type is visually distinct.

>>15971363

>>15971476

Actually I would have, but it was a video and right clicking wouldn't let me save it, only copy a link

>>15971497

I know, but that's way too much fucking effort just to post something I saw that I liked on here

>>15971476

>my presumption is that it saves the trouble of having to post the twitter handle/referenced image/artist.

>post an image on an anonymous board

>have to link someone's twitter just in case they don't receive credit on their cutesey mass produced korean garbage

you're fucking retarded

>>15971476

So basically you want to shill some random faggot from twitter and not put any effort into it?

>>15971492

I couldn't even tell that it's a video without enabling twitter's bloated bullshit.

>>15971512

it's a meme u dip does nobody not recognize this? am i surrounded by newfags?

>>15971511

>what was the past few threads

>asking for reference to posted twitter shit

>when anons posted just images/vids

>easier to just post handle/direct link to prevent this

also

>credit

what are you talking about, most people wouldn't want to be associated with h8chan.

I think the "retardation" is a projection in this case.

>>15971528

Then it just needs a decent file name. It's not difficult to do this, dumb shit.

>>15971528

What exactly is the meme? I seriously want to know because I've been in these threads since this place became relevant during Gamergate and I don't see what's being memed here.

>>15971528

>it's a meme

The fuck are you on about? I just wanted to share a cute lowpoly animation I saw

>>15971534

it's pre h8ch, from old'ish /b/, not going to dig into my archive; has to do with tits and gtfo w/same image.

it can be utilized in similar manner in an ironically pedantic way

>>15971539

has to do with the post format of that "eat shit" image, not your post

>>15971533

lmao, man you're mad over nothing, get over yourself

>>15971547

>lmao u mad

Jesus chris, at least try to pretend you're not from cuckchan.

I'll just, uh… go back to working on my VIDEOGAME

Calm down guys, agdg is a charitable place. Link is fine, but should have had a picture in the same post.

>>15971550

try to not deliberately shit up the thread anon, r8, ffs

sage for shit post

>>15971553

yup, good plan

>>15971555

>starts saying random nonsense like "umad" "lmao"

>politely asks someone else to stop shitting up the thread

If you actually cared about the thread quality you'd never post here again, let alone continually respond like with nonsense.

>>15971565

It's not really a big deal imo, as long as it's not outright shilling as we've seen in the past.

To prevent that, I agree with your take, some context should be given for the info that is valuable enough to be linked to.

Otherwise, just take a few moments to download vid/screenshot if it's just "neat".

>>15971613

at least it wasn't mark's anus this time

>>15971569

>First image

>Okay what if we take a nice aesthetic like Animal Crossing or something

>Okay now let's add 90's retro futurewave colors

>And what if we made one of the characters look like a tranny dog

>>15971308

Alright, I might just change the facings of the tier-1 upgrades so that they are placed on the ordinal directions, while the tier 2's can be placed on the cardinal directions.

Though first I'm going to try and actually get the structure ingame.

>>15971712

the impending promise of homelessness is getting to him

>>15971694

You can do that if you want, but I don't know if that will actually make the difference.

>>15971797

Wrong. Pixelshit is bad pixelart. Low poly is a whole different monster. Lazy, obvious hand-painted textures (The kind Blizzard popularized) are another one. I hate those textures so much.

>>15971797

The first screencap isn't too bad but the secod is definitely shit.

>>15972259

Yeah the table is pretty flat.

>>15972269

>the table is pretty flat.

yeah, it needs big titties :^)

>>15971291

I figured out something that works, but it's not super elegant. I generate a 2d array of all tiles when I start the program, and then when the player is generated, I can quickly set a tile as clear or not based on x and y positions. When I move the player, I only set the tile that the head of the snake entered as occupied, and I set the tile the tail of the snake left as free. Then when I need to generate a new position for the pickup, I go create a 1d array that has a size equal to the current number of unoccupied tiles. Then I go through the 2d array and put each tile that is unoccupied in the 1d array.

Finally I can pick a number between 0 and the size of the array to get a random, unoccupied tile.