bda559 No.15864671
Welcome Captains,Admirals and Emperors to another Space Thread. Please fill out the forum to let others know what you are
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And thank you for visiting the Space thread and please enjoy your stay
bda559 No.15864677
I'm glad to spend another Christmas with you anons
f6e8c0 No.15864682
2dd6a9 No.15864781
Will we watch LOGH ever again together?
30d005 No.15864941
So what exactly is SETA used for in X4? I can't enter travel mode with it so is it like a "win real life time/ lose in-game time" thing?
30d005 No.15864957
>>15864941
And by "lose in game time" I mean I could do shit faster by myself just going, well, fast.
59354c No.15864976
>>15864957
>And by "lose in game time" I mean I could do shit faster by myself just going, well, fast.
9a88bb No.15865002
>>15864941
>So what exactly is SETA used for in X4?
In previous X games, you used these to fly faster and to pass time when you needed to get weapons/resources from complexes or factories.
Travel mode made SETA kind of redundant for former so it can only be used for latter now.
>>15864682
It's only good if you like grindfests.
>>15864671
>Playin
Taking break for X series for some time.
>Listening
Soundtracks from SRW.
>Reading
>Watching
Nothing in particular for both.
30d005 No.15865024
>>15865002
>In previous X games, you used these to fly faster and to pass time when you needed to get weapons/resources from complexes or factories
Yeah I know, I suppose you could still use it for that, but is made redundant as you said for actual travel. I guess if you want to watch over base building or some other operation it might be useful. Instead of waiting real time for an AI ship to arrive to do, whatever.
62dd6d No.15865045
>>15864671
Reminder that there's nothing like LOGH and won't be for any time soon.
Tell me of things anywhere near as good. I know some books but that's it. Maybe some movies?
925321 No.15865119
This may be a newnigger question but what are the best games for being a space trader that aren't Elite Dangerous? I wanna play a spess game where I can smuggle spacedope while avoiding pirates, something like that. Doesn't matter what genre it is, I'm open to pretty much anything. Are the X games good for something like that?
>>15865045
It's nowhere near as good as LOGH but Crest/Banner of the Stars is a pretty good space opera show. Kinda slows down during the first season of Banner but picks up again during the second season. Also Ekuryua is cute and I want to pet cats with her.
4149a0 No.15865181
>>15865119
>no space traveling allowing elves
It was pretty good, but the elves were OP.
Aside from 40k, is there any other story/vidya that puts a lot of mythological/fantasy creatures in spaceships?
62dd6d No.15865236
>>15865119
Thanks for the recommendation. I do have to mention though that I didn't only mean space related things. I'm just talking about things that are as good as LOGH, no matter the setting or medium. I don't think there's anything as good as it in motion-picture. Maybe 2001 (coincidentally also space related). When I first saw LOGH, I thought to myself "I didn't even know something was capable of being this good". There have only been books that have given me the same feeling.
9a88bb No.15865272
>>15865119
>Are the X games good for something like that?
Yes. At least on hobo phase before you build your self-sufficient economy in some unknown sector.
>I wanna play a spess game where I can smuggle spacedope while avoiding pirates, something like that.
Illegal goods? You will get your chance to do that.
925321 No.15865286
>>15865272
Cool. I've got a copy of X3 TC/AP. Should I start with TC or just play AP since I've heard that it's the better of the two. Also, should I play with any of the overhaul mods I've seen out there? I've seen people say that the game is much better with Litcube's, will I be overwhelmed if I just go into it with all the new shit that that adds?
9a88bb No.15865371
>>15865286
>Should I start with TC or just play AP since I've heard that it's the better of the two.
Vanilla AP has more content and sectors.
>Also, should I play with any of the overhaul mods I've seen out there?
I recommend to play vanilla game before touching LxXRM or Litcube mainly to learn controls and get basics of gameplay.
>I've seen people say that the game is much better with Litcube's, will I be overwhelmed if I just go into it with all the new shit that that adds?
There is big chance that it would happen.
Also as new player either turn off Phanon(a.k.a. Player 2 which hates you) or OCV(Borg which slowly conquers galaxy with overpowered ships) in your first Litcube's playthrough.
129971 No.15866330
>>15865286
>AP
Just a few pointers
The stock market is so broken that its literally cheating.
If you ever end up "Trusted" with Argon you will be given a faction mission to "Help with the war effort" triggered by traveling to M148. Doing so will cause the faggot to call you up at random and demand you go somewhere because of reasons. These are mildly annoying on your own however they kick you out of SETA every time they happen and you can't unsubscribe from this jackass's mailing list.
If you're trading and going on a long expedition park often and save often. The autopilot in SETA will occasionally position you wrong for the docking approach causing you to splatter on a station. Normally this kills you, but if you're a capital ship you can damage to the station which will cause the sector police to become hostile.
c60de0 No.15866446
Which video game is this thread about?
07c7eb No.15866454
dbc9ba No.15867263
>looking at my (((steam))) library
>fractured space
>remember that unlocked all the shit way back in the day
>they updated the game and reset my inventory
>now i dont have anything
>gave me a few virtual shekels as a go fuck yourself
>read that wargaming bought them
>the same faggots from World of tanks and shit
So when are they going to implement premium batteries to power up your ship lasers?
93e1cc No.15867341
>Playin
Just started Stellaris because I gave up trying to get SoaSE:R to work.
>Listening
2112
>Reading
/v/
>Watching
LoGH, incidentally. I never actually watched it before and I'm kinda impressed. I'm about halfway through it, in the middle of Ragnarok.
5ea4d4 No.15867402
>>15864671
Alliance Forever.
>>15865045
I've got a few
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6LFkMniuTk
Star Blazers Yamato 2199 is a 2013 remake of the original series. It's pretty good, with ship battles acting out as if at sea, so Yamato gets attacked from a sub-like vessel that fires torpedoes from fold-space and they have to dodge but also guess where it is. The adventure of getting there in one piece and back again reminds me of Voyager in a way. Plus the OP preps you for that journey.
Second is Z.O.E: Dolores, I. Follows the Links family after Jame Links receives Dolores, a frame-runner from his supposedly dead wife on mars. The first have is them actually trying to get to Mars from Earth while evading the authorities, second half sees them caught up in the conflict between the two planets. Dolores is /clang/ levels of robot and James just wants to get his family back together and I really get that. Plus it's late 90s and Kojima was involved, so it's a relic of it's time.
Space Dandy is another one but if you only see one episode of it make it ep 21, it's a different shift in tone where Dandy ends up on Planet Limbo and themes of life, death and entropy play out and it really makes you think.
Other than that, there are a few other titles like outlaw star, coyote ragtime and Bodacious Space Pirates but Yamato and Z.O.E I would recommend.
0db9e6 No.15867426
Stellaris is pretty fucking great. I didn't much like the other paradox games I bought but Stellaris is pretty nice except when I get late game on a massive galaxy and my toaster starts shitting bricks because I have Hulu playing and a screen reserved for shitposting while I play.
Rimworld is fun as shit but I need to take a break after putting 200 hours into it.
Pulled up Cortex Command that I got years ago and still don't really care for it despite every description of it sounding exactly like what I would love.
b21bc5 No.15867428
>>15865045
There's tons of fujoshit out there.
d49161 No.15867586
>>15867341
I just got going on Season 3 myself. The history channel episodes are great once you get to them.
f97dbe No.15867787
>>15865286
Another pointer if you want to go full smuggler: I'm 99% certain you can actually build spaceweed factories and other illegal goods production complexes. Different races have different things illegal, so you can use that.
4c1c38 No.15868084
>>15865045
There's another show made by the same people who made LOGH. It's not quite as good, but it's not bad. Tytania I think it's called..
>>15867402
Dolores has a dick and you're a faggit.
932345 No.15868092
>>15867426
How so?
>megacorp
>new shit is plain shit
>ai still shit
>go back to slaver vassal swarm
>weshallrullthegalaxyasfatherandson.jpeg
>300 year in lag intensifies
>lose interest
4ea82e No.15868376
Did the new elite dangerous expansion make things fun again or is there still no reason to reinstall?
8eeb87 No.15868475
>>15865045
>know some books
I assume you've read E.E. Doc Smith's entire Lensman series then? weird trivia: the Lensman anime is based both on the books and the Green Lantern comics… which were also based on the Lensman books.
a55901 No.15868489
>>15868376
Exploration is "better", you can also map planets now, there's a new codex, which updates with interesting discoveries made by you and other players, mining is has more to do, like deep core mining and blasting rocks apart it's also stupidly profitable right now, and the clan system is in.
687767 No.15869168
>>15868092
>ai still shit
It's actually worse now.
Due to the complicated nature of the economy now, the ai can end up in a death spiral that causes its economy to get nuked and stay nuked through out the game.
The high crime brought by one thing or another translates to low overall stability which causes the star nations to balkanize through revolutions.
Hell, i have seen machine revolutions start balkanizing while still fighting their war to end all squishies and at one point i encountered a bug which caused a machine age civ to rebel against itself and revolutionize all the way to space age, adopting an alien as their ruler and then starving because they lacked the needed infrastructure to keep themselves alive.
Oh and the end game monsters (in my case contingency) no longer purge pops but instead just let them keep on growing and shit.
AI isn't shit, it's now broken both because of bugs and because the ai can't handle the new economy that runs around alloys and consumer goods and the resources needed to make those resources.
Oh and space pirasy is rampant because it was reworked and now it is based on how guarded/unguarded yoru trade routes are and pirates spawn on weak parts of your trade route, potentially cutting your empires trade in half and creating the aforementioned death spiral.
30d005 No.15869435
Trying to open this Data Vault. I've opened several before but never encountered this before. "Pressure Leak Detected" What am I supposed to do? I've flown around looking for something to interact with both in suit and in ship.
af2748 No.15869453
>>15866330
I'm pretty sure you can turn off war reports in the options.
30d005 No.15869472
>>15869435
Okay, figured it out on my own. I just shot the fucking thing with my ship and then repaired it. Makes sense.
6e889b No.15869489
>>15869168
The AI was already highly prone to starvation spirals from the point on they made food a global resource. It's embarassing that their AI is much more inept than anything seen in a early 00s business/city building sim.
30d005 No.15869500
>>15869472
And there was apparently nothing there. Or it's bugged. Data vault with nothing in it, what's the point.
30d005 No.15869675
Anyone know why some ships I ordered is just sitting there with seemingly no progress? Is it because the station is out of materials?
82b1b0 No.15869790
>Playin
Crisis of the confederation mod for CK2
>Listening
The silent lords audiobook
>Reading
nuthin
>Watching
nuthin
I want there to be a decent 40k game, just one that lets you play as the guard or maybe on a hive planet. Even world of darkness has a couple of decent games, is it really so much to as for?
30d005 No.15869824
>>15869732
>ABBA
I won't laugh because of your taste in music, but Winamp?
But really tho, I spent millions on my corvette in X4, why the fuck isn't it being built? I'm hurting here.
dcdf4a No.15869843
>>15869824
it's purely for nostalgia reasons, plus I'm most familiar with it compared to foobar, WMP and whatever other players are out there. It plays what I want it to play, media library is a bit unwieldy at first and I still miss Shoutcast TV
30d005 No.15869880
>>15869843
You can customize Foobar almost exactly like Winamp though.
3ecef0 No.15869901
>>15869880
>pink floyd
>time
>mfw
dcdf4a No.15869925
>>15869880
I've heard great things about foobar's customizability, but like I said, winamp has a very special place in my heart
30d005 No.15869941
>>15869901
Did you know, it was all going to go so wrong for you.
55618c No.15869956
>>15869941
>>15869901
I didn't really make out the lyrics, it's an okay song I gues
3ecef0 No.15869975
>>15869956
here, I have a video that brutally sums it all up
dcdf4a No.15869976
>>15869941
>always thought I was destined to be good
>maybe not great, but good
>always excelled in school, always told I was solidly above average
>parents put me in a specialized management middle school early on
>then we moved
>then high school happened
>then failed unis happened
>killing time with vidya all the way, waiting for sweet release, like a drunk hoping the next bottle of whiskey kills his liver
>always waiting for something good to happen
I didn't come here for feels, I came in just to shitpost about media players
dcdf4a No.15869984
>>15869956
Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
Fritter and waste the hours in an offhand way
Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town
Waiting for someone or something to show you the way
Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain
And you are young and life is long and there is time to kill today
And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun
And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking
Racing around to come up behind you again
The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death
Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
Hanging on quiet desperation is the English way
The time is gone, the song is over, thought I'd something more to say
BREATHE REPRISE
Home, home again
I like to be here when I can
And when I come home cold and tired
It's good to warm my bones beside the fire
Far away across the field
The tolling of the iron bell
Calls the faithful to their knees
To hear the softly spoken magic spells.
2f4f64 No.15869998
>>15869984
What's the best way to practice combat with flight assist off?
30d005 No.15870013
>>15869976
>I didn't come here for feels
This place doesn't accommodate whatever it is you want, to be frank.
Only thing I can say tho is that
>killing time with vidya all the way, waiting for sweet release, like a drunk hoping the next bottle of whiskey kills his liver
This is not a good idea, dying by a failed liver is supposedly extremely painful, and when you go, you can't use painkillers as that would only be more strain on your liver.
7196c3 No.15870054
>>15869675
>Is it because the station is out of materials?
That's the only reason why it would stop in first place or if that station making these got destroyed, but you would get notification in latter case.
30d005 No.15870074
>>15870054
Guess they're out of shit then, because it most certainly isn't destroyed. It's in a safe Tel-trade system and I'm ~12+ rep with them. Fuck it. gonna wait until tomorrow.
49be55 No.15871441
Anyone else playing star traders frontiers? What's your build, son?
aaf798 No.15871996
>>15869489
It probably has something to do with the fact that while they have changed the gameplay by a great deal since the beginning of the game, they never actually reworked the AI.
Hell, i wouldn't be surprized if under the hood the AI was the very same one they used when they launched the game.
188606 No.15872099
>>15871996
That's pretty true from what I've seen. The AI is still pretty fucking terrible with recent games I've had with friends. I remember by the time the end game crises rolled around all the AI was still stuck at tier 1-3 tech. Although in saying that, I do like the ideas they've implemented but the entire fucking balance is a complete shit show and it looks like to me it was rushed out the fucking door.
Playing Machine empires are nearly fucking impossible since your economy will collapse in 5 years. Even quicker if you're doing the bio trophy civic. You're punished for going tall or going wide no matter which direction. Either by resource constraints or by quadrupling your tech/unity cost which is much heavier than all the other versions of the game. Building a proper military is a big meme because Paradox in all their infinite wisdom just directly converted the old mineral costs of ships to alloys and chucked a bunch of rare resource costs without realizing that alloys are much harder to manufacture thanks to requiring both a building slot and three times as much minerals to make a alloy. The market is easily broken by doing the most obvious market exploit that when I first heard of the galactic market I promised to myself I was going to laugh my ass off if they didn't think of that and decided to make measures against it. Sure enough in my multiplayer game it fucking happened. Lastly, it looks like it's nearly fucking impossible to get ready for the crisis when the economy game is going to be a complete cluster fuck.
So what we basically have is a patch that pretty much forces you into a mindset of balancing your logistics far more than warfare with warfare being a rather risky endeavor since you'll just end up fucking yourself with admin cap right after an expansion that was all about warfare. Making the militarist play style (unless you go what I've been doing lately, life seeded feudal empires which works surprising well if you're good at early game aggression) nearly fucking worthless right after an entire warfare expansion all about war. The fucking irony.
Apparently the next expansion will be focused on diplomacy and hopefully some fucking work will be done on the AI but for now we're left with this complete shitshow of balancing issues.
637f3a No.15872285
>>15869489
>It's embarassing that their AI is much more inept than anything seen in a early 00s business/city building sim.
You have to consider that Sweden Yes is responsible for AI. They have a hard time with logic.
>>15872099
This economy clusterfuck sounds quite like a fun challenge, except it affects everything in the game, no matter what you're doing. I suspect that AIs are just getting fucktons of resources even on lower difficulties now, without them it's really fucking hard to get anywhere. And they still haven't fixed tall, wide and tech thing. Fabulous.
2cf617 No.15873072
Is X4 good enough to play now without major bugs or just to wait for next year expansions?
d49161 No.15873126
>>15873072
It's mostly playable, but you'd still be better off waiting.
2cf617 No.15873142
>>15873126
Alright, thanks.
637f3a No.15874255
>>15874113
no, they just stay there
50c42e No.15874482
Never forget your supreme destiny as Sons of Man anons
77c226 No.15876553
>>15868084
the dick makes it better
647b08 No.15876833
>>15868084
It's not a dick, it's a cockpit.
f1cc83 No.15876994
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
posted a video with dogfighting last time. This time, capital slugfests.
keep being impressed by the size of the patch notes every few weeks, it isn't a buggy fuckfest either which is massively appreciated compared to everything else lately.
906de6 No.15877198
>>15876994
I forget this was a thing. Nice to see its chugging along.
aee4e6 No.15877315
>>15864671
Leftists love space games and use them to push the idea that a multicultural future is a foregone conclusion. Leftists hate historical games and pervert them to push the idea that multiculturalism has always existed.
264606 No.15877473
>>15877352
Why the hell would you give a you to lazy obvious bait?
ffb7b4 No.15877760
So I just found out X4 released and decided to try it despite all signs pointing towards Egosoft being fucking idiots who learned nothing from Stillbirth. Turns out I was right. God damn is this some hot steamy garbage. Do all Egosoft employees have down syndrome? Why on earth would they double down on all the stupid ass bullshit they introduced with Stillbirth? The X series is dead and is never coming back.
ffb7b4 No.15877766
>>15876994
Holy shit, Infinite is still around?
49e7e3 No.15877801
>>15872285
>>15872099
The new economy game mainly forces players to start minamxing their planets, creating agri-worlds, forge worlds, mining worlds etc.
The way the game works now is that the planets get themselves a designation based on what sorta industry/stuff they got most on their surface, so if you got osmething like 5 or more refineries that churn out special resources, your world gets nicknamed as a refinery world while if you got alloy forges up the wazoo on a planet it gets named a forge world.
Each of these designations gives the planet a bonus to specific production and works also on research.
What you should avoid doing is make a planet that tries to do in general everything, it just gets turned into rural world with some rather shitty bonuses.
Thrall worlds are one helluva mineral mine if you can make some.
Ecumenopolises are great for things like research worlds, refinery worlds, forge worlds and trade planets, the habitats are in general trash except they can be made to enhance your trade value generation with right methods.
Also a word of warning to ye who build megastructures and ecumenopolises.
none of them can produce minerals and ecumenopolis cannot produce food or electricity either, so you must always have few worlds set on mining and energy production or you can just switch over from old fusion plants into the newest form of green energy, trade value, be amazed as a million happy merchants rubbing their hands together are able to produce enough electricity to run a star empire.
Also ring worlds no longer produce minerals, they still do produce energy and food though.
Habitats produce none of those main resources.
b71c6a No.15877834
>>15869489
That's what happens when you rework your game for the second time 2 years after the release and most of your staff members are cunts and other diversity hires.
5cbfb7 No.15879196
How is EVE Online these days?
526f28 No.15879406
>>15877760
All I want is X3 with Elite: Dangerous flight model and docking. Is that too much to ask?
ae4e1f No.15879410
>>15864671
Stellaris on hardest difficulty and ironman mode. The best xeno holocaust simulator
The start is insanely hard, if you survive the first two wars you will be so fucking far ahead of everyone else that the rest of the game is about micromanaging your ever growing population while stomping scrubs because they dared making those branch offices in the planets you want to make them (don't make them a vassal, that don't remove the branch offices and makes it impossible for you to force them to via Hostile Takeover war goal).
Also, don't make rivalries with your neighbors, because they will fuck you up if you don't rush 20/20 ships, and they get 40/40 before you do. I've found myself buying time to sue for white peace because the war took too long. That 0.5 influence will most likely not be worth sucking dick
Planets are the big shit, don't bother with sectors unless they have a blackhole (1000 minerals/month mega structure requires one)
You can get your big dick huge stations with 9/9 defenses all you want, if the enemy don't have to pass through a straight line over it, they can just skip them to attack your planets
Avoid winning easy wars fast, as you can take control of all sectors resources for as long as the war lasts for no Empire Cap cost, just make sure to not let your war exhaustion each 100 nor give the chance for them to surrender (they automatically do if you can sue for war goal). Leave that last one planet for when you are about to force to end the war
You can go past the Empire Cap, but you should never ever do that unless you are already at the 10th repeat on most research projects, that shit will fuck your research fast. 10% sounds like nothing, but it's cumulative and exponential.
Always rush research, all other ways of playing the game are wrong, even if they probably work
ffb7b4 No.15879439
>>15879406
But E:D's flight model is beyond retarded. It's the reason I refunded that heap of shit. Why would you want planes in space?
30d005 No.15879474
Alright I've docked every single ship in ED and had no problems so far in X4 with medium to small ships, but how the fuck do I dock this large freighter?
It's like the Hulk trying to fuck Tinker Bell from Peter Pan.
526f28 No.15879483
>>15879439
I just want being able to turn off flight assist and docking that is more engaging than fly slowly to the hook/hangar.
d49161 No.15879485
>>15879406
I thought X4 was fine and like it a lot more than the previous games (especially the early game), but the auto trader is bugged and I can't continue until they fix it. Player-owned shipyards are in the upcoming patches.
d49161 No.15879498
>>15879483
>I just want being able to turn off flight assist and docking that is more engaging than fly slowly to the hook/hangar
But both of those are in X4, without the stupid sped restrictions in E:D.
ffb7b4 No.15879537
>>15879483
>fly slowly to the hook/hangar.
But you only do that for like first 20 minutes of X3. Then after that you have a docking computer and you just rocket towards the station on full blast seta until you get close and hit shift+D and you're just instantly docked. That's much better than being forced to navigate in some dumb useless station.
30d005 No.15879582
>>15879474
Whatever, I just asked the AI to do the trading and it happened in a flash. The UI fucking lied to me.
ae4e1f No.15879616
>>15869168
>Keep a small (20 sectors) empire with 5 planets
>Have a station on every single sector inside the trade route with 6 trade hubs and a offworld trade thingy
>Don't have to care about pirates because pirates only spawn in route (and not around it) and don't spawn where there is a station
>>15877801
>1k mineral
you got yourself some black holes right?
Mineral is literally the easiest and hardest shit to get at the same time.
It's easy as fuck to get X, but by end game you will be using X^3, it's currently my bottleneck
>722 empire size
you have already "won" the match, right?
>>15876994
Wait, is this that fucking game that you could just fly into a blip in the sky, and eventually reach a star, and then fly into a planet and boom, there's a planet there? That super cool demo from 5-10~ years ago?
ffb7b4 No.15879627
>>15879616
>Wait, is this that fucking game that you could just fly into a blip in the sky, and eventually reach a star, and then fly into a planet and boom, there's a planet there? That super cool demo from 5-10~ years ago?
That wasn't really the cool part considering it's nothing that hasn't been done several times already. The cool part was the seamless transition to planet surfaces.
ae4e1f No.15879636
>>15879627
>The cool part was the seamless transition to planet surfaces
well, yeah, that's what I've meant with "and boom, there's a planet there". As usually it's just a skybox or a 'small' sphere that kills you
f1cc83 No.15879648
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15877766
>>15879616
They're not doing a full MMO anymore, the small team decided Infinity: The Quest for Earth was out of scope for their tiny team. So they're doing a solar system war game instead, something more like planetside 1. So, now it's Infinity: Battlescape instead. Match based, economy is per match, and the matches are supposed to last anywhere from a few hours to a few days depending on the parameters.
It's the same engine with seamless full scale planets and shit. There are currently factories/mining outposts spread accross each planet's surface, and the goal of each match is to cripple the opponent's production and hangar facilities until you ultimately destroy enough of their stations that you win.
embed is some fighter gameplay from a few weeks ago, with a few attack runs on some base turrets.
d53cdb No.15879651
>>15864781
I've had the entire series downloaded for 3 years and I have yet to gather the courage to watch it. Whenever I try, I think to myself "122 episodes plus movies" and my non-existing will to live is gone.
6cf8a7 No.15879660
>>15879651
Just go for it. It's good.
8b1990 No.15879671
>>15879651
I was hooked from the first episode. Just sit down and put it on.
7848b6 No.15879701
I've been having some fun with X4, but a few things bother me right now:
First of all, station building is way too easy - I took my HQ and just started building multiple of everything on it. After a few days I had a megastructure that mass produces huge salable surpluses of everything. There really should be balances in place, like waste byproducts or various radiations that make having certain modules incompatible within a certain distance to other modules, or one type of production severely diminishes the productivity of another type of production, etc. Having a single station build everything and produce more income than I can figure out how to spend is very lame and boring. They also put the PHQ in way too useful a sector - in the middle of all races in a dense resource rich asteroid field. Put it in a totally barren sector 6 gates from the nearest inhabited world and MAYBE it would be a challenge making it profitable.
Secondly, the various empires are all way too active (weird complaint considering how sterile and empty X3 felt I guess.) In my current game, in the time it took me to build my megastation, the other empires have seemingly built dozens if not hundreds of little specialized stations all over the place - yet all of them have shortages in their wharfs and shipyards so severe that I've had ships on order waiting for 10+ hours at all of them. Once the January patch hits and I can glue some shipyards to my PHQ, I'll be able to easily steamroll over the cosmos.
Third, the combat is a joke. I can take a single Nemesis corvette with 4 medium bolt cannons and a torpedo launcher and clear entire Xenon sectors. Even destroyers have nothing - just get in close so the "go along for a ride" mode kicks in and you auto-hover in place no matter how they maneuver, and then just sit there between their engines like a genital wart and shoot until they explode. That proximity gravity reference frame mechanic should be disabled for enemy ships at the very least, and probably disabled for any ships you don't actively have an open docking invitation for.
And then finally, I don't really see how the player's economy does much to shape the universe. I could spam stations across all sectors, but what would that really do except make more money? I could kill everyone with ships, but I want to be able to kill empires with business. I'd love a mod to make it so all empires can no longer construct stations or ships themselves - they ALL have to go through you. You could actually dive deep into all kinds of political machinations and weaponized economics and make empires choke or flourish at your whims. It'd be much more interesting than this, but there'd need to be serious additions - like assassins and hardcore station-destroying sabotage bombings and shit like that. If everyone's welfare hinges on you, you'd expect things not to be so rosy after all.
Anyway, X4 is a fun game so far only played 52 hours so far and will play more. 7/10 it has potential to be something really good if they release substantial patches and expansions over the next ~5 years.
d49161 No.15879737
>>15879651
The episodes are actually pretty short (~20 mins after subtracting intro/outro). I just went one season at a time before taking a break for a few weeks. It moves too fast to drink it all in over a short timespan.
f1cc83 No.15879840
>>15879196
owned by worst korea now
7848b6 No.15879884
>>15869500
You just get out of your ship and use the repair laser on the red panel things until they all beep - each time one of them beeps something on the data vault moves and reveals either another red panel, or a resource you can grab, or a bundle of wires. If you repair the wire bundle it vanishes and you get credit towards the data vault quest.
Most vaults have about 4-5 red panels you have to find.
30d005 No.15879987
>>15879884
>You just get out of your ship and use the repair laser on the red panel things until they all beep
Thanks. I did mention that I've done this around a dozen times, I got the gist of it.
And I've also seen enough data leaks, etc, to know that it's probably some geometry fuckery going on.
7848b6 No.15879999
>>15879987
All good dude, I know you'd said you'd done them before, but I didn't want to be rude by assuming you didn't have alzheimer's.
30d005 No.15880058
>>15879999
Didn't mean to come off as passive aggressive. It's just there's a lot of minor pet peeves in this game. And anybody who's put in 20 minutes would probably know to right click the ear-rape glowing spots.
d49161 No.15880072
>>15879884
>Use the repair laser
>The locations are sequential
Fuck how did I miss that? I kept trying to clip through part of the hull because I thought it was bugged inside the geometry, tried blasting stuff with cannons and handheld laser pistol.
49e7e3 No.15880555
>>15879616
>you have already "won" the match, right?
Kinda, the contingency is at this point an annoyance that occasionally blocks a few space routes for my ships.
As for the black hole mine? Yes, i got one and i am eyeballing one broken one sitting in middle of contingency controlled space, gonna expand there through L-gates and then take out the last contingency hub (well second last if you count in the one that pops in after the initial hubs have been popped).
df8096 No.15881269
>new Sins of a Solar Empire DLC releasing out of the blue
>15 minor factions added which adds even more to the diplomacy side of the game
What a pleasant surprise, now to see how the various mods will react to this new gameplay addition.
a0df0b No.15881321
>>15868084
>Viturak Transport Cabal, who will grant access to black market Vasari travel technology
As an Advent, my biggest bane has always been Visari and their portal tech. Even when I invade their space I only make about 3 planets in because of all the space stations and portals. This could really help me.
bb8224 No.15881437
>>15869168
>>15868092
They'll probably band-aid fix a bunch of that shit in the coming weeks with minor patches. It'll probably in a mostly playable state by Feb/March.
>>15877801
What are the production bonus from having forge/energy/agri world? I thought it was just flavor. Or are you talking about the Energy Nexus and the mineral/food equivalent buildings?
Ring Worlds are pretty shit now. If you're unable to expand you'll need to maximize your mineral production on every planet, maximize your trade value on every planet so consumer goods aren't being manufactured through artisans. Ring Worlds don't help all that much with that. Habitats are amazing though since they provide easy building space (IE stick all your forges/consumer goods buildings on habitats) and since they provide the most important resource in 2.2: population growth.
Let's take a minute to talk about how important pop growth is now. Before 2.2 a size 10 planet could house 10 pops, you'd have your administration building, you'd get your adjacency bonus from your admistration building, you'd have your unity buildings, and that's pretty much it. If you had migration, one tile would be getting worked about 15%-20% of the time at best. Now a size 10 planet can fit 80+ pops. The more planets you have, the more growth sources you get, the more growth sources you get, the more resources you can squeeze out of your planets. On the flip side, purging/displacing xenos hurts your economy a LOT. Taking a planet with 80 pops means 80 more slaves or workers if you're some sort of xeno loving faggot to work in your hellholes. But purging/eating those 80 pops is the same as losing out on years' worth of growth for your empire. And habitability is a huge deal now, trying to colonize a planet at 50% habitability means 50% more food/consumer goods costs. A very low % habitability could mean a planet is actually a detriment to your economy. Which in turn makes Highly Adaptive trait and the special tradition tree that genocidals, hive minds, and despoilers get even better.
Biggest problems I have right now is that the piracy system is dumb even if you manage it well enough to never have pirates spawning, and that the khan/crisis/fallen empires haven't been rebalanced to the new economy system. Had the khan spawn in a huge galaxy on admiral difficulty at around 2300. He had more fleet power than the rest of the normal empires in the galaxy combined. Hell, if every empire had gotten together and combined all the fleets as one to fight all of the khan's fleets in a glorious battle, the galaxy's fleets would've gotten crushed. Had the Scourge spawn on 1.25x crisis strength on a huge galaxy and the small roaming fleets had 140k power, which was about as much as I had and I had been swallowing my corner of the galaxy for a good 50 years before they showed up.
a0df0b No.15881838
3212bf No.15882065
>>15881437
A rural world adds a 2% bonus on worker production while a specialized planets (mining worlds, agri worlds, forge worlds) give a 5% boost to the particular thing produced there.
efbb45 No.15882149
>>15881321
Do you mean the fortresses or the smaller stations? Because I would think that the Trade Federation would cause more issues with those. Particularly the loyalist faction. If they place both by where your invasion force warps in at, it can get pretty ugly.
a0df0b No.15882178
>>15882149
Occulus star bases. Got a friend who absolutely loves going Vasari Rebels, meaning the Star bases can go through phase lines. I'll invade a section, destory his fleet, starbase and titan just to control a single sector then while I'm regrouping, he'll warp in another starbase along with reinforcements. And he'll continue to send them if that's the only way into his sectors. Me having access to phase lane tech would allow me to capture the sector or sectors where he's manufacturing this shit, even if it's only a raid, it'll hopefully cripple him enough for me to push up.
ae4e1f No.15882998
>>15881437
>Had the khan spawn in a huge galaxy on admiral difficulty at around 2300. He had more fleet power than the rest of the normal empires in the galaxy combined
Move the midgame disasters to 2400 and late game ones to 2500, problem solved
>And habitability is a huge deal now, trying to colonize a planet at 50% habitability means 50% more food/consumer goods costs. A very low % habitability could mean a planet is actually a detriment to your economy. Which in turn makes Highly Adaptive trait and the special tradition tree that genocidals, hive minds, and despoilers get even better.
You got only 50% right. You always take the non adaptable trait. By 2330 you will be terraforming all planets to gaia, you can handle the 70% hab on your main planet type until then
f97dbe No.15883320
>>15879483
I always quite liked the X2 docking, where you have to locate a hole in the station hull and carefully maneuver into it, then fly through the tunnels on the inside to your parking spot and if you fuck up a single step you either explode or damage the station, which means you're now inside a hostile station that wants to kill you.
E:D has too much docking from open space where you just have to fly straight down.
30d005 No.15883377
Finally got my Corvette after painstakingly having to protect and guide a large freighter to deliver the shit the station was lacking. And my god was it an endeavor, SATA being a god-send.
5x bolt repeaters. Here we go.
30d005 No.15883400
Here's the slow piece of shit I had to babysit. Dunno if this is the result of the supposed bugged economy before 1.32.
21ca4a No.15883568
>>15881269
>new Sins of a Solar Empire DLC
still nothing on the race that even the vasari are scared shitless?
ae4e1f No.15883971
>>15883568
>Sins of a Solar Empire
is this RTS or 4X?
df8096 No.15883983
ae4e1f No.15884017
>>15883983
does it feature a pause button in single player?
ae4e1f No.15884028
>>15884017
let me reiterate
a pause button that lets you calmly take decisions, not a PAUSE like in wc3 that locks the screen
c54d50 No.15884129
>>15884028
Hit the pause key.
21ca4a No.15884152
>>15884028
>a pause button that lets you calmly take decisions
GIT GUD
d8f52f No.15884155
>reinstall Elite Dangerous
>wow these graphics are nice
>wow there's cool shit like night vision for my ship
>wow there's a whole new mining mechanic, let me transfer my Python over here to do some mini-
>32 minutes delay before it transfers
Fucking serious with this shit?
0d3b60 No.15884227
>>15884155
The community was massively upset at the idea of having any ship transfer whatsoever because "dass not how I'd was in da orishinell :///" so be glad for what you got.
Really ED is a case study on how progress can be held back by the customer.
df8096 No.15884228
>>15884017
The pause key, you can start projects and things as long as you have the resources to do all of it at any time during single player, also lets you move the camera around to take some nice screenshots.
3ad842 No.15884258
>>15867263
Sounds like you've got a fractured arse. Smuganimegirlpic.png
21ca4a No.15884289
>>15884155
>32 minutes delay before it transfers
>not reading japanese comics while you wait
0d3b60 No.15884307
>>15884289
If you want to be efficient about playing ED, a second monitor so you can do something during the million tiny downtimes is a must. Great design isn't it.
3ad842 No.15884323
>>15884227
Those ED forum poster dads are half the reason I have high blood pressure.
bb8224 No.15884347
>>15882998
Terraforming to Gaia World is bugged and removes most of the available districts. Hell, with that trait, having an ocean species colonizing a continental world might produce a deficit. It's *that* bad. The only way I can see it being decent is if you're running Slaver's Guild with Stratified Economy, and you try to avoid putting non-workers on low habitability planets as much as possible. But outside of that exception, putting pops on a planet they get low habitability on is awful. Have fun with your rulers costing 1.8 consumer goods and your specialists costing 0.9 goods and all your pops costing 1.8 food to maintain. Even if you manage to squeeze out some profit from low habitability planets, the extra district costs won't make it worth it.
ae4e1f No.15884368
>>15884347
it's only 1.3, you are not going to be colonizing 10% hab planets until they are gaia
>>15884347
Terraforming to Gaia World is bugged and removes most of the available districts
I've seen both increasing and decreasing the total amount of districts.
I think it just reroll the tile features, some have +2 districts and whatnot. A bad reroll makes it get less, a good reroll makes it get more. I will be sure to check what is really happening on my current playthough
637f3a No.15884386
>>15884368
>I think it just reroll the tile features
>>15881269
Are these minor factions even interesting? I can't believe that it's yet another several years out of date DLC to that game.
30ad3f No.15884528
https://meguca.org/nya/
The Empire always wins in the end, no matter what rebel scum do. >>15865119 Elves are OP its because they are a superior race nya~
SIEG HEIL NYA
bbe0aa No.15885119
imagine starmade
but with a working economy and combat system
but on death you lose everything
like a block-based working non-pay2win eve online or so
im autistic i got like all the details in my head and fantasize about it constantly help
3212bf No.15886307
>>15884228
Speaking of Soase.
NEW DLC INCOMING
Features:
“Minor Factions” Gameplay Option - Enable the spawning of minor factions! Each game will place a number of minor factions onto the map to expand your strategic and tactical options.
15 new minor factions - Send envoys to persuade minor factions to join your empire and cultivate their unique abilities and advantages. Minor Factions include:
>Nilari Cultists: These fanatical Advent cultists command waves of suicidal martyrs, sacrifice their people for devastating effects, and indoctrinate nearby populations to accelerate their cause. Be careful, though - with the end being near, they don't always discriminate between friend and foe, and it won’t matter whether you’ve won them to your side or not!
>Viturak Transport Cabal: Vasari technology is notoriously difficult to get ahold of. Contact the Cabal to gain access to black market Vasari travel tech, including phase engine improvements and the ability to execute covert raids. If they let you into the back room, you may even find yourself with a stolen Antorak Marauder that you could pair with their local phase stabilizer…
>Grost Scrappers Union: Credits don’t discriminate, and neither does this faction! These underground human entrepreneurs accept payment from anyone. If you need an armor retrofit, a quick field repair, a great deal on resources, or even a place to convert those obsolete frigates into profitable scrap - these are your guys!
>12 additional minor factions: Each faction provides abilities and advantages unique to their theme and role, including mercenaries, xenophobes, pacifists, used ship dealers, demolition experts, resource miners, resistance fighters, arms dealers and more!
3212bf No.15886371
>>15886353
Yeah, i fucked up by not checking the thread.
Sorry.
4c1c38 No.15886413
>>15877760
My main gripes are poor personal managemnt, too much peace, bad weapon balances and generally bad ship balance.
What other problem are you reffering to?
ae4e1f No.15886420
>>15884368
well, I am dumb and had all my 7 planets to finish terraform at once (And am playing in ironman mode).
But I don't see any obvious problem with the planets. I think they fixed the issue with gaia terraform
ae4e1f No.15886462
>>15886420
scrap that, it's really bugged
some planets got 0 mining/farming/generator districts
they DO keep the max districts, but it's all resource being forced into becoming city
I will check if this happens on planets that were not colonized yet
3212bf No.15886851
>>15886836
Well you got yourself now a decent spot to start a ecumenopolis on.
But yeah, terraforming is now absolute cancer.
Or at least RNG as fuck.
89d4f1 No.15886939
>>15867402
Is the Yamato remake better or worse than the original?
ae4e1f No.15886954
there were 7 blocked districts, now there are 7 world tiles missing. coincidence?
30d005 No.15887475
So here I am managing my large trade ships, setting up automatic trade priorities next to a 13+ friendly system station, when out of the blue, fucking God decided to fuck me in the ass, and I get a "game over" screen in the menu without any warning or indication that the ship I am sitting in was in any trouble what so ever. What's more I get an instant game over when I re-load my last saved game.
I had no major issued up until now but fuck it I am a little bit upset.
bb02b7 No.15887508
>>15887475
The black hole that is the galaxy suddenly collapsed.
30d005 No.15887519
Which brings me to another point. In X4, I've never actually died and really understood what killed me. It always ended in confusion. I can kill dozens of ships and go unscathed (Thanks Elite Dangerous). And I can't ever quite recognize who is talking when I hear some fag ask someone to drop their cargo.
There is not enough feedback when it comes to incoming damage or communication. But especially incoming damage, I've never been in panic because of a ship shooting the shit out of me.
Also please don't do the "no sound in space" shit.
>>15887508
If only. Though black holes don't collapse as far as we know, they evaporate.
ae4e1f No.15888197
Turns out it's the fucking protection range on stations that fucks with the performance late game
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1592074962&searchtext=performance
bda559 No.15888246
>>15887519
You collided with a planet and you didn't see it because it was flat
07c7eb No.15888305
>>15887519
So like, the audio cue of stuff hitting your ship isn't enough? Or the Hull and Shield indicators at the center of focus on your screen aren't big enough? Or the "Hull Critical" warning isn't loud enough or what? To solve your other issue for you, if someone is asking you personally to drop your cargo, their face will pop up with a prompt and it will be louder than overheard comms.
30d005 No.15888563
>>15888305
>So like, the audio cue of stuff hitting your ship isn't enough? Or the Hull and Shield indicators at the center of focus on your screen aren't big enough?
Yeah. I've noticed. But it also isn't prevalent enough. And it ain't there when I am in the menu managing my ships.
I've played several other space games and noticed improvements in the audio/feedback category. And This game isn't immune to criticism. Elite Dangerous for example is way better.
This is some weak fucking feedback, and I love the game, I really do. Just wait until it happens to you a couple of hundreds of hours in.
07c7eb No.15889223
>>15888563
Well lad I've been blown out and surprise attacked a few times in 40 hours and I've always known. Maybe mix your audio to put voice and SFX higher and scale up your UI a bit. I check the map like every 10 seconds if I'm in deadspace so I usually see raiding parties coming.
df8096 No.15889240
>SoaSE is also free on (((Steam))) until tomorrow
61c23e No.15889263
>>15884323
>tfw Pecisk/Eagle Boy post his drivel
21a035 No.15889306
>>15889302
>Kylo Ren in DMC5
>Now in MGS
wat
c71b49 No.15892316
>>15879410
>You can get your big dick huge stations with 9/9 defenses all you want, if the enemy don't have to pass through a straight line over it, they can just skip them to attack your planets
That's why FTL inhibitors are so crucial, which is a good thing the tech tree is so comprehensible to use without any possibility of going 30 years without that option becoming available.
1c1f7a No.15898978
What's the best option for the "fly around in a space ship and build an economic empire" gameplay? I've played plenty of space 4x and rts games, but I want to be the guy in the pilot's seat. From my own research and the thread it looks like X3, X4, and Elite:Dangerous are the best candidates. Is one of them particularly good at being a first person space game introduction?
c9c510 No.15899159
>>15898978
How about a star wars overhaul mod for mount and blade wherein you collect taxes from planetary administrarions and/or revenue from business ventures you establish? and sell into slavery the aliens and rebels you take prisoner along the way
b402e7 No.15899345
>>15898978
>Is one of them particularly good at being a first person space game introduction?
X3 is the best of these right now. Even if UI and controls take time to get used to, especially station building.
X4 lacks content to be recommended right now. Maybe year or two of waiting will change that.
E:D is complete grindfest on par with Korean MMOs.
d49161 No.15899766
>>15898978
X3 is also a turbo-grindfest, don't let the autists here fool you.
30d005 No.15901496
Okay so X4 1.50 is out, and I made an account and I can see other peoples ships in my universe. Yet I can't build the necessary venture modules on either my HQ or newly acquired property.
What's the deal?
0d5f21 No.15901586
>>15901496
>What's the deal
Probably typical broken egoshit, maybe you have to research it? Once you do create some Right Wing Death Squads and send them into other people's games. Surely this will create zero problems or drama and be fun for all ages.
30d005 No.15901657
>>15901586
>Once you do create some Right Wing Death Squads and send them into other people's games. Surely this will create zero problems or drama and be fun for all ages
Oh boy, if only. They don't even allow the custom logos on your ship to be there. God forbid they gave you the option for that considering it would probably be a lot of no-no material. Hell I'd put up with the furry porn just by principle.
Regarding the "Right Wind Death Squads", I think only one ship can be sent into other peoples worlds and those names will probably be tied to your registered and approved name on their forum. Which is why you have to make one in the first place.
0d5f21 No.15901680
>>15901657
That's just as sad and cucked as I'd expect it to be, coming from a German company.
a97f35 No.15904500
Got an itching to play Freelancer after seeing that latest episode of sunk-cost galaxy. The crossfire mod for it cleans the visuals up nicely, almost KOTOR levels in character models which I like.
d49161 No.15904531
>>15904500
As I recall, Crossfire adds the Great Escape theme to some of the prison facilities.
a97f35 No.15904635
>>15904531
I tried playing this back about 5 years ago and conked out after going through the first jumpgate to colorado because it was so slow. This mod cleans up the visuals immensely so I think I'll stick with it for a bit.
5cac53 No.15904684
6c63c1 No.15904696
>>15901496
wait, X4 has multi? I thought it was a solo grinder like the ones before
also, how's NMS these days?
c24c0d No.15904842
>>15898978
>fist pic
what game?!
d49161 No.15904927
>>15904842
>99% chance of bait
That's modded Freespace.
f92309 No.15905090
>>15864671
Playan' starsector. It's pretty good – the combat is great and I love the details in this, from shit like tracking a colony's population, it's resources and habitability, to all the stuff you can encounter while salvaging.
Only problem is I found a battered Paragon-class battleship orbiting a sun in some remote system, took it over and fixed it, and now there's nothing to challenge me since this beast can easily obliterate entire armadas on its own. Does any anon know if there's some special endgame missions or if some later events fire or something that would give me a new goal to strive towards?
d49161 No.15905917
>>15905090
For endgame stuff, you can go to threat level: red systems (there should be a glowing red beacon in hyperspace) which have things quite a bit scarier than a paragon. Alternatively, bring peace to the entire sector by saturation bombarding every planet you don't own into dust; the massive swarms of pirates you encounter after doing this can provide quite some challenge. Also, you can go to the list of planets and sift through the luddic path stations, targeting whichever ones are most convenient; they can be a lot more difficult than one expects.
71b09c No.15906086
I sure hope you guys werent having a good day up until now.
1901f3 No.15906493
>>15906086
At least someone made counter mod to these (((visitors))) already.
f97dbe No.15906573
>>15898978
X3, specifically Terran Conflict. Albion pride has a few more things, but shit like war sectors and giant rapid response fleets really hamper what you can do.
Haven't played X4 yet, but it's generally a bad idea to play an X game before the free DLC as an apology for the shitty launch drops.
>>15901496
Have you modified your save/game? A mod/script?
That makes it so you can't send shit out, but others can send them to you.
db2a3a No.15907054
>>15877801
>Habitats produce none of those main resources.
Habitats are pretty shitty right now. They cost a fortune and don't produce much (except in special cases where you have livestock, I heard they are good for that). I think they should have a production bonus from minerals to simulate asteroid mining or something. It's really shitty how asteroid mining is almost completely absent in a space game like this, and habitats would really excel at it, since you could just build them near a 95% metal asteroid.
207e10 No.15907060
>>15904500
And now I know why I dropped it again. The amount of side stuff you have to do in order to rank up for story missions is a bit ludicrous. Missions pay out ~15k and I've got a good ship and that but I need another 300k before it says I can level up and trigger the story mission.
d49161 No.15907234
>>15907032
Is that show actually worth watching? I just saw what looked like racemixing and avoided it.
e92117 No.15907274
>>15904927
>BSG
BSG Worthy of Survival NEVER EVER
db2a3a No.15907350
>>15907234
Well, it IS the future… It's not like I am happy about it either, but when you see demographic predictions for 2100, I am happy to see there are only 3 niggers on the show. The one female on the main cast is an uggo British yeswymyn, but the show really focus on what matters and there's not much sjw on it at all.
71b09c No.15907376
>>15906493
U dont andastandu. EgoCredits are a premium currency that they plan to sell later.
d49161 No.15907389
>>15907350
Alright, I'll give it a watch sometime.
7de657 No.15907392
>>15907234
read the books faggot
db2a3a No.15907409
>>15907392
>spoiling the fun
Nah, m7. I won't even come close to them while the show isn't cancelled yet. Watching it is so much fun. Those space battles….
04e99a No.15907546
>>15907234
It has good technical background.
But it kinda went to shit with some silly alien goo.
db2a3a No.15907768
>>15865119
A good Abh is a dead Abh. Reminder that all that support the Abhominations are themselves traitors of the race.
07c7eb No.15907797
>>15907032
It's called Children of a Dead Earth
824116 No.15908276
>>15907768
Mad lander detected.
333174 No.15908456
>>15864781
do we have any streaming events? I've missed all threads like that
526f28 No.15908603
Is there a mod in X4 that replaces npc models with the ones X Rebirth? I would prefer Yisha and the other goblinos over niggers.
df5426 No.15910445
>>15869925
Winamp Winamp Winamp. It really kicks the Llama's ass!. i remember downloading cracked winamps of napster backin tehday
8db8d2 No.15910560
Anyone have a mega file with the logh gaidens and golden wings they can share? They are getting pretty hard to find these days
778135 No.15910842
Now thats a thicc boi. With life on it, too.
In b4 like ur mom
5fef7f No.15911667
>>15907797
Any good? Tell me more.
dc485e No.15911997
>>15867402
Is there more logh Gondola?
07c7eb No.15912126
>>15911667
Yeah if you've got the kind of space autism that likes plotting orbits and managing delta-v it's great. It's a near-future setting, all of the technology in it is either currently available or plausible in the near-future. The strategy element takes place on a larger map where you plot your burns and skip minutes/hours/days/months at your leisure. When you/your missiles/your drones make a pass at an enemy it goes into a realtime encounter where you've got a window of time granted to you by however close your encounter is. Then you can take more control of your ship and weapons as you have a sort-of jousting match. You can build your own ships and weapons as well. I made a gun that shoots diamonds, it's not very good.
All the physics are by-the-book and stuff like lagrange points are implemented. If you penetrate an enemies fuel storage and they run completely out of delta-v they'll float off into space or be unable to de-orbit. It's kind of hard to compare it to anything else in the space genre. Maybe like, Aurora but on a smaller, combat-focused scale.
778135 No.15912134
It's funny. I enjoy the new exploration mechanics in ED but judging by the reactions from the boomer fanbase, they hate it because it "requires" them to scan every little detail of a system and planet in order to satisfy their OCD.
39855d No.15912476
>>15912134
Sucks to be them.
Hopefully E:D devs won't cave to them this time.
0320a4 No.15912969
>>15906086
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
First they wanted consoles, now this? are they fucking retarded?
39855d No.15913201
>>15912969
>are they fucking retarded?
Corporate executives do retarded shit all the time.
Look at Sony, Bethesda, Blizzard and over 100+ more.
b69843 No.15913729
>>15913728
Merry christmas anon!
729b26 No.15913886
>Find yourself near a neutron star
>Every system around it mapped
>Travel towards a nebula from the bubble
>Every system along the way mapped
>Move away from landmarks and specifically below the galactic plane
>Still find mapped systems
My ass "only 0.01% systems mapped".
fab03d No.15914118
>>15913886
I liked previous exploration system more.
729b26 No.15914213
>>15914118
Having to fly up to every stupid rock was terrible though.
526f28 No.15914409
I just got Horizons from the Steam sale. Is ED worth reinstalling now?
228cdd No.15914502
What order do I watch LOGH?
a9724c No.15914518
>>15914502
Watch the first movie, then watch the series. That's it.
bda559 No.15914562
>>15914502
The Show first then the OVAs with spiral Labyrinth movie being the first few episodes condensed into a move fashion ( and has some yang wank added in that's really awkward to watch)
a9724c No.15914597
>>15914562
>>15914562
>he didn't watch My Conquest is the Sea of Stars
>he watched Gaiden
Do you always like wasting your time?
228cdd No.15914602
bda559 No.15914604
>>15914597
I was going to watch it all but then they got taken off of youtube around the time the new series was rumored to be announced and watching them on other anime sites got bothersome with the never ending ads
a16741 No.15914701
>>15914604
>he didnt download EVERYTHING
845438 No.15914720
IM GONNA TALK ABOUT ELITE AND NONE OF YOU FAGGOTS CAN STOP ME
>>15914409
the time has never been better. Things are a little fucked right now because chapter 4 beyond launched recently and fdev are incompetent.
However.
MINING OVERHAUL THAT PAYS SHITLOADS and is way more interesting then shooting lasers at rocks.
Exploration overhaul which is also tied to signal sources. No more flying around scanning for bullshit, now you sit in one place and scan for bullshit. You can now probe planets to discover every point of interest on that planet. No more flying around trying to figure out coordinates you found on some forums and eyeballing the surface.
Open is still pointless unless you want wing of fdls interdicting your trader. Online meta is evolving in the most retarded way possible. Everyone copies the builds that everyone else copies and then act blindsided when someone picks the natural counter and call for nerfs.
For example, shield tanks used to be the meta until everyone started using disruption torpedos and mines, but if you use point defense everyone will call you a noob because that point defense slot is considered better utilized as an extra shield booster slot or chaff/heatsink. so now NO ONE shield tanks and everyone hull tanks. Its extremely retarded.
bda559 No.15914775
>>15914701
I didn't have a lot of space on my computer at the time
0421ab No.15914983
>>15913728
Merry Christmas.
Even for filthy Xenos.
bda559 No.15916517
Also I found a dailymotion channel that has all the episodes and both movies on it. Downside is that Dailymotion has a full screen glitch
ab4b5e No.15916524
>>15914983
>have shielded planets in the game that you can open
>introduce super weapons
>you're so incompetent that you can't retain contents of a planet for later
>have to make the global pacifier just a planet killer that gives green science instead of red crystals
bravo Paradox
437b70 No.15916570
>>15914720
The community itself is what holds back ED. It's hilarious / sad.
At least exploration isn't completely ass anymore. I flew halfway to the omega nebula and scanned only interesting shit along the way and made 35mil.
437b70 No.15916698
Am I getting this right - Still no way to search for specific star types other than by filtering and zooming around by hand?
70d8fc No.15916769
I'm really enjoying Elite and no mans sky.
I hope you all had a good Christmas.
d78dab No.15917029
>>15916570
Dads want their games as shitty as their jobs. I really think midlife really do come into play.
437b70 No.15917316
The SRV controls in ED are, once again, some of the most needlessly obtuse and time wasting shit I've seen in any game. We wouldn't want our players to play the game *gasp* EFFICIENTLY now would we?
a9724c No.15917368
>>15917316
Forumdaddies suck it up. These manchildren don't care about respecting their own time. Make everything as tedious as possible because that's "authentic" or something.
437b70 No.15917395
>>15917368
Im starting to think there is more to this than boomers wanting Elite 1 but with better graphics - I mean, consider the SRV. Q and E to speed up or slow down, but not like in any other sensible driving game where you would hold the button. Instead you add permanent throttle like you would in your ship.
So now I'm forced to fuck around for half an hour to find a sensible control setup for this thing when they COULD have used control schemes that have been established in driving games since the dawn of gaming.
I'm beginning to think Fdev do this shit on purpose to increase the amount of time players need for pretty much every little interaction, just to draw out the play time. If they ever implement space legs, it'll probably work like Octodad.
437b70 No.15917406
You can't even argue that "it's REALISTIC" most of the time because if you wanted realism, the majority of features would be automated in such a highly advanced space faring age. You sure as shit wouldn't land by playing 3D Lunar Lander.
a9724c No.15917444
>>15917395
>>15917406
You have to remember that the game supports HOTAS controls. While it appears to be set up for XBOX controls, they do seem to take HOTAS into special consideration when it comes to the vehicles. Not tzhe menus though. So these mixed consideration lead to no control scheme to be good for everything. It's a fucking mess.
I also agree that the game probably deliberately wastes your time. Considering how little there actually is to truly do and how much less even it was back in the beginning, it's very plausible.
437b70 No.15917527
>>15917444
You're right and your trips confirm. I didn't take a HOTAS setup into account. Even then though, they could easily a) detect a HOTAS hardware setup and adjust the controls accordingly and b) have a dedicated, sensible setup for KB/M, controller and HOTAS all neatly separated from each other.
437b70 No.15917859
>Land on a planet
>Crash when going near a POI
>Log back in
>Crash again
>Can't leave
THANKS FDEV
07c7eb No.15917918
>>15917859
Crash your ship or your game?
437b70 No.15917927
>>15917918
I get disconnected from the server from being near a POI.
d78dab No.15917957
>>15916769
I would enjoy NMS if it has decent flight mechanics.
437b70 No.15918860
>>15917859
>Try to make a bug report and get someone at FDev to get my ship unstuck
>New forum posts require mod approval
>There are no mods online because holidays
4c1c38 No.15920377
4cdc12 No.15920545
Managed to escape the planet of disconnects by myself, thank god.
Here's a neat little image. I doubt this is physically possible in any way shape or form but its still cool to look at. Oh and also the camera suite is, of course, complete shit to control.
9247f1 No.15922021
>>15920377
finally some big dick ships?
cf1700 No.15922449
Where could I download a decent copy of the LoGH episodes? The tracker I used to use has closed.
dc485e No.15922494
>>15919936
Daaaamn, I would pay 100$ for this game + a decent Legend of the Galactic Heroes mod
845438 No.15922570
>>15917859
>>15917927
if you ever have trouble on a planet or something you can shut down elite and disable horizons, this will put you back into space above the planet. Ive heard of people crashing near planetary pois before so it might be related.
After you are back into space just shut down elite again and boot back up in horizons.
e21ace No.15924243
>>15922570
I did just that. I had heard of this trick but figured there would be some fuckery involved like being set to 1% hull or something. Apparently not.
So yea I escaped that planet of doom. No disconnect in space. Must be something about Horizons content.
2e6169 No.15930509
Now I'm stuck in a connect -> load -> instant disconnect loop out in space.
Bravo Fdev. Bravo.
47c80d No.15930837
Well, I'm pissed.
I got CODEX X4: Foundations 1.50 on Win7 and it works well and mods work.
Except a few of the best one, namely mods that add new and better ships. Supposedly these mods only work from the games extensions folder, not the documents one, but if I place the file there, the game doesn't want to start at all. The .exe just runs in the background forever…
SHIT
d0d633 No.15930914
What's up with Distant Worlds: Universe?
It really looks like Aurora4x but with fancy GUI, except everything is watered down and the automation makes everything boring… But then without the automation it's a micromanagement hell.
228cdd No.15934496
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Since I started watching LOGH I can't listen to classical music without envisioning massive space battles.
I should have done this sooner.
d49161 No.15934702
>>15934496
Which episode are you at man?
4876e4 No.15934895
>>15934702
EP 26, right after kircheis' death.
I can't believe I had this on my drive for a year before actually watching it.
bda559 No.15934916
>>15934895
My favorite part of LoGH was the imperial civil war arc.
d49161 No.15935007
>>15934895
M favorite single episode so far was the Battle of Amlitzer because watching the entire rebel navy get hopelessly and irrecoverably shredded to Dvorak is Godly.
d49161 No.15935009
>>15934895
Oh, you'll LOVE the history channel episodes when they come in S3. Those should be required watching for anybody.
bda559 No.15937562
Happy new years anons and I wish to spend many more with all you brave Captains, Admirals, and Emperors again
07c7eb No.15937572
>>15937562
Happy new year, anon
fe9966 No.15938291
>>15937562
>all you brave Captains, Admirals, and Emperors
slightly cringe-inducing but the sentiment is appreciated.
I too wish everyone the very best, a great new year and hope that we'll all be able to stick together for many more years to come.
df8096 No.15938318
>still waiting for various SoaSE mods to update for the new DLC and the big patch that came out alongside it
I just want my militia ships to match my chosen faction.
7b1b42 No.15938342
Goddamnit, why did you have to start with… I'm not gonna say "the worst OP", but at least the one that's not the best? Like it's good, but Sea of Stars is SO much better. I wish I had a webm around of it.
6b615a No.15938373
What's up with the Star Control 2 """creators""" being absolute jews?
https://nichegamer.com/2018/12/31/star-control-creators-issue-false-dmca-takedown-claim-against-star-control-origins/
The guys making this shitty DMCA claim are rich and they're causing layoffs at Stardock.
9130c4 No.15938415
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>>15938373
Everyone is being a fuckwit, including stardock.
This entire thing is a complete mess, which is to be expected because the various Intellectual Property was split in a fucktarded way.
6b615a No.15938457
>>15938415
What a clusterfuck, even so I don't see how they can file a DMCA, Origins is OC and only retains the name.
172822 No.15946646
>>15904927
I'm always surprised that Freespace flies so much under the radar in any of these threads and across pretty much the entire genre, despite being sold pretty well on GoG and receiving high praise. Good .webm, to think it's really easy to set up such a scenario and the engine can now handle way more than in the past. I should make some of my own .webms with experimental missions.
d49161 No.15947876
>>15946646
I didn't know it was any good until the very webm I posted was posted in on /v/ a few months ago. I had written it off as another Wing Commander-type game, which I really didn't care for.
6c23b5 No.15954051
Hosting space shit >>15953947
474d65 No.15958590
Gentlemen, I present to you: The ED community.
d49161 No.15958627
>>15958590
I'm glad he can play with his family, but why the fuck would you abuse them by playing Elite?
6e5bbc No.15959724
Anyone else looking forward to Rebel Galaxy Outlaw?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkIe4Bz9KGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMFR2j8jAzU
I'll admit I'm hyped because it got rid of everything I didn't like from the first
highlights include
>Space Boat Combat gone, Replaced with arcade dog fighting
>Heavily Expanded Customization
>Randomization gone replaced with thought out content
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKoJKe_yKQI
d49161 No.15959757
>>15959724
Looking forward to it, yes. There was a rumor it would only be released on Epic/Tencent's platform, but i saw no evidence to back it up. A bit worried about POZ, given the protagonist.
6e5bbc No.15959769
>>15959757
the protagonist is the character you were chasing after in the last game it's a prequel
d49161 No.15959794
>>15959769
I know, but she's an ugly butch woman, so the risk is there.
d49161 No.15959860
>>15959788
>>15959785
>>15959782
https://rebel-galaxy.com/rebel-galaxy-outlaw-launching-on-epic-games-store-qa/
Apparently it is releasing on Tencent's platform first, with a 1-year delayed launch on other platforms. In other words, it's still going to be a long wait.
6e5bbc No.15959884
>>15959860
>1-year delayed launc
Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?
Jesus I hope they're getting a fuckton of money for the deal.
>Hey launch your game on this new platform when the majority of the industry is under an effective monopoly from it's competitors It'll all work out fine
Who thinks that's a good business idea?
d49161 No.15959951
>>15959884
It's because China is offering them a higher ratio than Steam (88-12 vs 70-30, don't know GoG's). They seem to be rationalizing it as some moral stand to create a new niche for indie devs, but really they're just selling out to the Chinese in the hopes of more money.
5b46e5 No.15959966
>>15959860
>all these games releasing on tencent's platform exclusively
>all for a quick buck
These devs deserve nothing. POZ aside, the game looks good but I already use steam only reluctantly. No way in hell am I going to install another gay DRM system on my PC for this shit. Let's just hope it gets cracked quickly.
6e5bbc No.15959994
>>15959951
I know but the rates won't matter if they sell substantially less
you can't make more on ratios alone those ratios only matter if they sell near what they would on a larger platform (steam) that extra 18% won't matter if they only get ~40% of sales
6e5bbc No.15960121
>>15959966
the full list
https://www.gamewatcher.com/news/Epic-games-store-exclusives#
>Indieshit that no ones ever heard of
>Two indieshits with rep (Super Meatboy and the game we're talking about now)
>an "exclusive" indieshit that's only exclusive in that it's early access retard beta testing is on the platform while the actual release is going to be on steam
>and a canceled Unreal Tournament
seriously this was their plan?
this is how they're going to fight steam?
oh and I forgot
>The last parts of the dying walking dead game that continued to sell less and less as it went on
Watch out Valve you might choke on all that money and laughter
I mean to be fair it also has the spiritual successor to the Jaws video game that Nostalgiafags like me would actually consider cool
At least this is in it's own way good news only two things worth getting on it instead of having games I'm actually looking forward too get gimped in mass
d49161 No.15960151
>>15960121
Well, hopefully we get a pirate versions sooner than later.
6e5bbc No.15960378
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>>15960151
Any thoughts on Osiris and Everspace?
d49161 No.15960464
>>15960378
Everspace is good. I put in 70 hours, and the random generation works fine due to the space setting. The plot/setting was pretty decent, actually, and I liked the REAL final boss. It peppers in enough new stuff to keep you from falling into a set pattern, and the add-on DLC helps with this. There's rare artifacts that allow you to change the game rules between runs, like removing the enemy reinforcement countdown at the expense of some other stats, or a special gun that eats health when you shoot (it's a good gun). Also because you get to retain certain upgrades, you get nudged towards late-game faster without having to fret too much over RNGesus screwing you over (It never felt like it screwed me, but it can still be mean). The base gameplay has a small amount of grind to it, but it doesn't hurt really. Combat is solid, and there's a lot of it. You can even reach the point of taking down capital ships if you git gud and manage supplies/loot carefully.
Osiris: New Dawn is bad. It feels like an early access unity game. Enemies are shittily/not animated, and respawn before you even leave areas, MMO style. Feels quite grindy without sufficient payoff. Gave up after 4 hours, because the big sandworm wasn't worth it. Supposedly it's better in multiplayer, but what isn't? Might become better someday, but it seems unlikely.
bda559 No.15970382
d10cda No.15970738
>>15916522
>>15916517
you're a faggot just download it newfag.
cec682 No.15971803
>>15959951
Do they really think the Chinamen will be any less tyrannical than any other company if given the chance?
If anything, Gaben and steam have been surprisingly benevolent over the years, siding with the customers more often than with the devs and publishers.
82d023 No.15971869
>>15914720
Open is deadly and full of FDL trying to kill you is akin to saying a FDL shoved a wooden pole up your ass. It's fucking safe and chill the vast majority of the time and you have no idea what is and isn't good in pvp if you think shield tanks is out of fashion.
Outside of that, it is a good time to play and enjoy yourself but man the community makes me glad that retard markers like docking computers exist. Between them and streamers I get to work out my annoyance on just how retarded the majority of the people playing the game are.
845438 No.15972028
>>15971869
>speak generally
>oh you just got raped by an fdl and you have no clue what you are talking about
sorry i dont know what the current meta shittery is but i sure as fuck know what it was a few months ago and what i described is what was happening. Point was online is full of pussies who would rather gank then actually fight.
>It's fucking safe and chill the vast majority of the time
yeah when you are in uninhabited space. Nothing wrong with that but lets not pretend online isnt full of shitters who would get wrecked if they started picking fair fights.
None of this even really applies anymore anyway, online is pretty dead and the people who actually care about pvp have designated systems they go to.
967962 No.15972164
>>15867263
It's now in permanent maintenance mode, or whatever it's called when a game is dead and will never receive more updates. It'll probably get shut down soon.
3b89fc No.15975478
On a whim I played that Jurassic Park game by Frontier and let me tell you: It explains a lot. I thought FDev were just lazy specifically regarding ED but no, they design all their games like that.
The entire game is basically time gated with a million 2-5 minute timers you click over and over again to progress. It's laughable.
fab03d No.15977564
I like the color palette.
cec682 No.15978318
https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11055623
STO is going to have an update soon, but beware, for it has a terrible curse!
That's bad.
But it also comes with mirror universe content!
That's good!
The MU content is set in STD Mirror Universe
That's bad.
But you also get a new free tier 6 ship!
That's good!
It is a Vulcan science ship from STD.
…..
That's bad.
Can i go now?
1d6fa5 No.15981807
I heard you liked updates
f4d76a No.15981902
>tell myself that I'm going to get back into Elite after the exploration rework
>update comes out
>log in
>play around in the bubble for an hour
>decide to completely minmax my ship for exploration before actually setting out
>just had to get a couple of lightweight mods
>do that in an afternoon since finding USS is a dream with the new scanner
>log off for the day and tell myself that I'll actually get to exploring the next day
>it's been two weeks since then
d0d633 No.15982856
>>15981902
>Friend: "Let's check out the new update! They fixed a bunch of things!"
>Literally half an hour of loading screens later finally meet up
>Now what
>Nothing to do
>End up shooting NPCs with terrible AI for an hour
>Go to bed salty
>It's been half a year since then
FDev really fucked up that game too
Also
>NPCs still cheat
>>15981807
>Not saying which game
>Have to skim through the change log to find keywords
>It's X4
I'll never get that minute back
1d6fa5 No.15982915
>>15982856
Your suffering is a grain of sand compaired to the suffering of playing this pile of trash.
f923d8 No.15982968
The main problem with Open is that ED is a very grind to win type game due to Engineers. PvP where you have to grind to be on equal footing with other players is utterly retarded.
f9ecf4 No.15992140
>>15959860
>In other words, it's still going to be a long wait.
>not sailing the high seas
8f8923 No.15992209
>>15982968
The instances of actual PvP and the reason to engage in it in the first place are almost nonexistent anyway.
8d6f16 No.15993388
>>15977564
How's the game? I nearly bought it but it seemed a little light on content.
fab03d No.15995030
>>15993388
Can't say really much about this game, controls setup are aimed for gamepads without an option to change nonlinearity of axises. And there is no head movement. The economic system is good and very small, so it's easy to see any impact on economy instantly, once you deliver demanded goods or destroy someone's freighter.
After a few hours I was too tired of trading, so I haven't tried combat in campaign, only in skirmish.
Game is sector based and their size are small.
For me it's harder to feel distances between sectors, cause you only get a timer of days you can skip, rather than a graphical map with actual position of bodies in this star system and trajectories of your fleet.
239890 No.15995160
Is it worth playing Dreadnought?
a8d5a4 No.15995212
>>15995160
It's like World of Tanks with 6dof movement and even shittier balance.
f9ecf4 No.15997249
>read rebel galaxy outlaw QA
>Q: Can I fly capital ships?
>A: Nope! Sorry, all about the cockpits and beer coozies this time out. Plus you wanted to fly up and down.
>Q: The main character is a lady. Do I have to play a lady?
>A: Yes. Juno is awesome.
61c23e No.15997289
>>15997249
I`ll reserve my opinion on Juno until I have played it. I`m more salty that the game will be an exclusive of the fucking (((Epic Game Store)))
108d19 No.15997578
>>15997249
why can't marketingfags ever answer questions professionally and like a normal human would
2673bf No.15998157
>>15958590
>gf and her son
cb7c1e No.15998184
>>15997249
Fifteen years ago this sort of tripe might have made me interested, now it just makes me disgusted. If they can't answer in a concise and professional manner they should give over their PR to someone who can.
bce624 No.15999698
>>15997249
>those answers
I have a bad feeling that this game is gonna be shit.
83be52 No.15999771
>>15998157
My cousin recently got a fiance of some 40 year old "only thing I love more than myself is my son", owner of a 8 year old with autism. I finally understand this meme
70d8fc No.15999890
>>15997249
>Use a gamepad
>For a dogfighting game
Are these people fucking retarded? It's common knowledge that a space game controls best with keyboard and mouse. Gamepads are shit and HOTAS are there for immersion.
a1e3b4 No.15999904
>>15997249
>No capitol ships
IS THIS NIGGER SERIOUS?! I PLAYED REBEL GALAXY EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE BLACKGATE, YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS! I can't believe I was planning on pirating this. Can't even play as a robot either.
3ad97f No.15999911
>>15999771
How old is your cousin.
cd2783 No.16000255
>>15937562
>Beethoven 7. Sinfonie 2. Satz
7f8dfb No.16002556
>Try out Star Control because see the shit storm surrounding it and wanna see what it's like.
>You go around systems mapping shit collecting resources.
>Huge ass map with about a 100 star systems.
You know I'm gonna go visit them all. This is tickling my autism.
7f8dfb No.16002643
New GalCiv3 expansion adds hypergates and artifacts.
I feel like they're slowly turning that into SINS.
ec4bee No.16002780
https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11069743-the-emperor%27s-lock-box%21
Oh, a new lockbox in lockbox online?
Alright, what's this ones gimmick.
>Super space ship palace as grand price
>A sword, some uniforms and other assorted random crap and… what the fuck?
>Fortune cookie tribble
Did cryptic just nod at my earlier joke or something? >>15978318
Im starting to feel paranoid here!
5ede2b No.16002799
>>16000303
It's just Symphony in German.
df8096 No.16002826
>>16002780
The Vulcan STD Ship is the Anniversary prize.
391013 No.16002869
>>15999771
so now she has two autists?
>>15997289
>Epic Game Store exclusive
they want GayRoyal audience or what?
0e9575 No.16004772
d8b00b No.16004810
>>16004772
Probably just some lore reasons.
efbb45 No.16005116
>>16002643
>humans inventing hypergates
NO!
Humans invented the hyperspace travel that allowed FTL without the use of hypergates. That was one of the things that made humans special. At least one empire in GalCiv would give pre-FTL civilizations hypergate tech just so they wouldn't have to go through STL travel speeds to invade them. That was actually how humans invented hyperdrive tech; the empire that used that method to conquer gave them the tech and humans instead turned out hyperdrive tech. Humans then proceeded to go around the galaxy handing out hyperdrive tech to everyone, which was as stupid as it sounds given the empires that got it.
I'm happy to see it make a return, but at least make something that makes sense with the ridiculous lore of the games. Something that would fit the game mechanics and flow. For example: as empires expand they see the old tech in new light as it allowed faster, but more rigid travel than hyperdrive.
I am happy to see the shape shifting dragon jews return, though. It was amusing to see your cash in flow spike as the galaxy went to shit from wars everywhere.
ef2432 No.16005166
>>15864671
>Ctrl+F: Independance War 2: Edge of Chaos
>0
What a shit thread
ccbeee No.16005338
>>16004772
Afaik people can petition FDev to rename places and factions, so maybe it has something to do with that. It's how you get Beagle Point and shit.
43b858 No.16005727
>>15901496
Sigh. Updating my years-trusted driver version right now just to play X4. I hope it's worth it
FOR THE PRRROFITSSSSSS
e92117 No.16006916
Hey guys, remember that one game where you got to command and control your own capital ship and it's crew, and you got to fight for Space Romanovs?
YEAH, ME NEITHER, THANKS TO INCOMPETENT FUCKS BEHIND MANDATE.
eed72f No.16007012
>>15995160
I played it near launch and early game was alright, but mid to later tier ships were balanced like shit + matchmaking sucked, so it all falls apart. Not sure if that has improved since then. Probably not though.
>>15997249
Those wacky answers means this is a cool game made by cool people who totally don't each own 11 cats, are alone in life, and are in their late 30s to early 40s. Seriously though, this sounds like cancer, and any small amounts of interest I had left are now gone.
>>16002869
Chinks are throwing around money to get more users to spy on/steal from.
e8120b No.16008433
how pozzed is this shit? i found it by accident while looking at rpg vidya.
>kikestarter
>diversity
the game looks interesting, but damn those are big red flags, at least the ship AI is a qt.
93e1cc No.16008443
>>16008433
>fractured space but looks actually fun
I hope it isn't pozzed either but I've never heard of either of those companies so who knows.
df8096 No.16009063
>>16008433
Looks like Starpoint Gemini 2 but with more bloom
efbb45 No.16009089
>>16009063
Looks like it has exactly the same fucking issues as that game too.
15be67 No.16009918
>>16008433
Who knows, it might be cool or it might become a miscarriage, just like the mandate.
It still hurts and i didn't even give them money.
>>16006916
See second pic.
To lighten the mood, ask me anything about BFGA 2, because i got in the beta.
108d19 No.16010425
>>16009918
>ask me anything about BFGA 2
have the devs already started flailing around with the nerfing, completely destroying faction viability, yet like they did to 1?
Is it the same micromanagement ability fest like 1?
Are they seriously going forward with that retarded control points system?
Did they get rid of the "you have to wait X number of battles for your damaged and destroyed ships to come back" system for multiplayer
51e46a No.16010546
>>16009918
Is BFGA2 any good?
15be67 No.16010580
>>16010425
>have the devs already started flailing around with the nerfing, completely destroying faction viability, yet like they did to 1?
There has been a nerf on Tyranid ship costs and apparently the dark eldar have also been visited by the nerf fairy, though effects of it are under argument still and i have no further info on that.
>Is it the same micromanagement ability fest like 1?
Kinda yes, kinda no.
Because there is now an auto-attack button along side the good old choose facing front/sides as well as engagement range which basically just means where the ship starts govering around without moving closer.
Also the torpedoes, nova cannon shots, fighters, boarding actions both assault boats and lightning strikes and most abilities now have limited uses.
>Are they seriously going forward with that retarded control points system?
Yes, imo its fine but you aren't alone in your opinion of it sucking.
>Did they get rid of the "you have to wait X number of battles for your damaged and destroyed ships to come back" system for multiplayer
Seems that way so far.
Also they added crew count to the ships which affects how well you can fight off enemy boarders, how well your ship in general works and if you can still launch any more boarding actions or not regardless of your amount of remaining boarding actions.
If your ship crew gets depleted the ship turns into a drifting hulk that can either be grabbed bag with a boarding action, giving it few crew members to move the ship around and use the guns, or you could detonate the ship, which at the moment seems to be more powerfull than a nova cannon blast.
Also nova cannons accuracy is now pin point accurate but it still takes time for the shot to land.
Further stuff of note, the tyranids are slow, have low amounts of guns with pretty high damage but low fire rate and ungodly high levels of boarding damage/crew per ship, meaning that they are basically less shooty super orks of the previous game.
Also their full speed ahead gives them a turn boost so you could launch one of them at an enemy even if your ass was pointed towards him.
Necrons seem kinda meh so far, im gonna try them out in skirmish mode a few more times but so far there hasn't been anything too special about them, they are rather average in general.
Regarding story mode, if BFGA1 was like dawn of war then BFGA2 is like dark crusade. Each faction will have their own story mode like this.
And finally about the A.I.
It's kinda like something out of dawn of war 2, sometimes competent (except for ramming eldar ships) but they put their retard hat on the moment they start capping points, for example just standing there while under heavy enemy fire without doing anything, like dodging torpedoes or rams.
>>16010546
I like it so far.
528884 No.16010604
>>16010580
Is it true that they removed autocast?
d86588 No.16010690
>>16010580
> at the moment seems to be more powerfull than a nova cannon blast.
Reactor overloads/Warp drive explosions were pretty fucking nasty in the tabletop.
>Necrons seem kinda meh so far,
Funny because they were OP as shit in the tabletop. Tyranids were nasty too because their standard weapon batteries could inflict burning criticals.
15be67 No.16010714
>>16010604
Yes.
Just checked on both IN as well as Crons and neither could autocast.
On the other hand, i think im starting to get the hang of the Necrons.
They lack shields but compensate with armor, some of their weapons ignore shields and they got a stance that allows their shots to arch from target to target.
Also at least their battleship is armed with an ability that scares the shit out of the enemy ships.
Oh and morale is now shown as this yellow/orange bar under the hull health bar.
>>16010690
I see, no wonder i was able to blow up three tyranid bioships with a single cruiser once it went up (nids were at about 1/3rd health at the time).
Fires seem to be happening left right and canter, the orc ship here for example has four active fires going on inside.
15be67 No.16010824
More things that might interest you folks, in skirmish and PvP modes your fleet is no longer as permanent as in previous game, you can pick and choose what battlefleet/clan/chapter they come from and there are premade fleets as well as ability to just make up one of your owns or multiple own ones which you can then save and reuse later.
Skills and Upgrades are now fleet wide instead of just per ship like in previous game.
Favors seem to be out as well, at least i haven't seen any ways to make my IN ships more space mariney, inquisitorial, navyish or cog boyish.
Also here are some stats of the Necron battleship.
3394b2 No.16010906
>>16010690
>Reactor overloads/Warp drive explosions were pretty fucking nasty in the tabletop.
Jesus. That's effectively a 1/3 chances of doing a whole shit ton of damage. 8-12 on a 2d6? Makes you wonder if players saw a ship as a lost cause and had the other vessels just say "sorry buddy, we're gonna put some space between you and the rest of the fleet."
d86588 No.16011042
>>16010824
Sounds heaps better tbh because the old system encouraged endless grinding until you had fully upgraded ships with full level crew that cost the same(!) as a fresh lvl 1 cruiser.
Are the Imperial Grand Cruisers (Vengeance/Avenger/Exorcist) in too? BEcause I see an Apocalyse class added.
>>16010906
Even better, capitals could deliberately detonate themselves when boarded by Nids.
The real MVPs of the Nid fleets however were Escort Drones and their ability to mass hilariously cheap and strong pyro acid batteries (20pts for a Str 4 battery vs. ~30-35pts for comparable firepower fielded by the Imperial Navy/Chaos)
15be67 No.16011069
>>16011042
Yes, also here are the imperial ships available in game atm.
15be67 No.16011418
>>16011069
I tried out the fleet creator and made couple meme fleets, then tested them against the craft world eldar.
First fleet got owned because it turns out lances aren't a good weapon against eldar ships.
Second fleet on the other hand proved that by tossing tons of rocks at an enemy ships (and torpedoes) you can claim victory.
Also when you have all ships chosen and launch torps, all of your ships fire at the same time.
a45c8b No.16011485
>>16010824
Can you list the factions? I'm seeing
>Imperial Navy
>Astartes
>Mechanicus
>Corsair
>Craftworld
>Not sure
>Orks
>Necrons
>Tyranids
>Tau
>Tau Navy?
a45c8b No.16011495
>>16011485
Ah, and forgot chaos was in there between menchanicus and corsair
15be67 No.16011570
>>16011485
Not sure is dark eldar and Tau are divided between Merchant fleet (the ye olde Tau ships) and Navy (manta rays).
Also i decided to try out my anti-eldar fleet against the nids, first time i won through several ships blowing up their reactors, second time i decided to try out some torpedo spamming.
It worked pretty well till i ran out of torpedoes, used some melta torps and just set them all on fire, after which they rammed few of my ships, few routed and then their entire fleet apparently routed because i won that game.
58aa8c No.16011951
>>16010580
Nids should be weak as shit bu have very cheap ships. Numbers. Numbers. NUMBERS.
3394b2 No.16012381
>>16011951
Zerg are based on the Nids, but Nids are not Zerg. They have numbers and strength. Tyrannid armor is notoriously difficult to penetrate, and Genestealer claws alone can rend through Terminator armor. If you know anything about T armor, that's fucking ridiculous, and is about as hard a substance as exists in the universe of 40k. Their ships aren't just floating bags of meat.
Although if you mean weak offensively like with turrets and whatnot, that I can understand. Canon wise you'd expect lots of ramming and boarding.
e3b9c6 No.16013745
>>16012381
Do Tyranids even need many ships at all? I was under the impression they just drop out of the warp in orbit, drain everything and leave.
5fef7f No.16013754
>>16012381
>Zergs are based on Tyranids
I don't think it's as clear cut as that. Some of the early Tyranid designs are awful and don't look anything like they do now.
528884 No.16013777
>>16013745
Nids don't use the warp.
e79912 No.16013861
>>16013745
See those tendrils outside the galaxy poking at the galaxy?
Those are hive fleets, that's the sorta level of swarm we are talking about.
Also another info dump on new BFGA 2 regarding the nids.
Nids start the game in stealth mode and thanks to the way the game has been reworked, stances like stealth, brace for impact, etc, are now permanent until either the generator or the bridge gets knocked out or until you switch it, so to put it short, nids start the game invisible and remain so until spotted.
Nid ships are in general slow as shit, but can rush several thousand kilometers.
Rushing will of course show them to their enemies.
Also one of the command ship skills you can pick with them is pic related, it's worked wonders so far.
108d19 No.16014785
>finally get to Cataclysm on my backlog
>that first mission with the beast
>ships start screaming if they get hit with the infection beam
>discover that if you moved the Kun Laan up to the forward resource patch the infected engineering module starts chasing you
>ball clenching terror as your mothership has to slowly reorient to try and run
3394b2 No.16015013
>>16013754
>I don't think it's as clear cut as that.
No, it is. Starcraft was originally meant to be a 40k game, and then something fucky happened with licensing issues and who was allowed to do what. They had already put in the work, so they had to figure out how to salvage it. There's a reason that game has parallels to Astartes, Nids, and the Tau/Eldar.
d49161 No.16018217
51e46a No.16018248
c945fb No.16018259
>>16018248
While we are on our way there, id like to correct an earlier statement i made here >>16010824
Chaos favors seem to be still around in campaign mode (only on NPCs though), no idea if you have to grind for them in multiplayer, that's left to be seen yet.
c945fb No.16018311
>>16018259
I gotta go back on my words again.
Looks like it wasn't a favor, it's just the way Death guard legions ships look like.
1fc0ce No.16018559
>>15904500
Crossfire looks and plays like absolute shit though, like if the Cinematic Mod was in space and was balanced by a retard. It's literally that one meme about modded textures.
c945fb No.16018927
>>16018311
There be whales!
As well as other navigational hazards that can occur during the story mode or be picked from a list in skirmish mode.
207e10 No.16019478
Got a hankering for playing Star Trek again after Bridge Commander, so giving Legacy a go with the Ultimate Universe Mod.
This start screen is pretty baller and they have interviews with the co-writer of the story which is the first I've seen in a mod.
efbb45 No.16021161
>>16013861
Those stances are why they are dead set against removing the domination mode in campaign. Set up a fleet to deal with assassination missions by having only ships that can stay in stealth, which is especially aggravating for a fast faction like any of the Eldar. I'm sure there are ways around it, but I don't think the dev team is competent enough to figure out how.
>>16014785
I need to restart that game, it was around then that previous fuck ups end up causing issues for me.
51e46a No.16024012