cab876 No.15853005
>The stats come from a number of Steam data tracking sites, including and . According to both, Artifact peaked at just over 60,000 on launch day but has been oozing players since. Every day, the game experience a new, lower peak, the one from Dec. 6 being at the humble 25,000.
How long until they turn this one into F2P Battle Royale trash too? https://archive.fo/Xbkk9
cab876 No.15853013
>>15853011
You have to pay for the game as well as microtransactions for the cards. Chinks won't pay for it.
23d9ca No.15853015
Living up to that namesake it seems.
4b0d55 No.15853016
>make a shitty rip-off of hearthstone and try to hype it up with no meaningful game releases or anything else and do nothing but shit up your faggy esports IPs
>be surprised when your shit game flops
cab876 No.15853066
>>15853016
>a paid pay to win game
1bdc43 No.15853113
>>15853005
Time to post faces.
f56e47 No.15853121
What do the ledditors think of this? They're Valve's biggest whale.
8b7192 No.15853122
>>15853113
Time for some laughing china men
f95058 No.15853130
40d706 No.15853144
>>15853121
There are a lot of butthurt whales, but the general consensus is that this game has too many problems to be viable Hearthstone rival. They predict that the game will go F2P before the year's out.
3b2046 No.15853169
A pay to pay to win game failed in a market saturated by f2p titles? How could this happen.
34e3f8 No.15853172
>>15853130
>Ouchie ouch
What type is that Pokemon move?
3ee4fc No.15853174
>>15853169
It doesn't even have crude hentai CG like f2p card games on nutaku
f56e47 No.15853180
>>15853144
>Lets get real, people only gave this a shot because its made by valve
>This game would be roasted if it were made by another company
>even reddit knows this game only got attention because of the Valve brand
JUST
490a0e No.15853212
>>15853144
>If a game can't get Twitch streamers/viewers then it sucks and shouldn't exist.
We're finally at that point. Is it what the industry has come to?
3c9332 No.15853225
>>15853212
video game journalism sucks and people are starting to realize it, so a games marketing success depends on streamers.
85758d No.15853234
>>15853005
>How long until they turn this one into F2P Battle Royale trash too?
OP doesn't seem to be aware that Artifact is a card game.
23d9ca No.15853248
>>15853234
The dwindling playerbase already makes it like a BR game.
252f1b No.15853267
>>15853227
>trying to larp as a smart guy
>can't even check basic facts
>>15853225
>success depends on streamers.
like those FOTM memegames no one bought after they watched their best e-celeb friend play it?
the bigger question is how many ppl artifact even needs, valve definitely doesn't give a shit how it performs since it makes money hand over fist anyway and doesn't have shareholder to suck off.
23d9ca No.15853278
Remember to report and filter blatant Valve damage control.
3c9332 No.15853315
>>15853267
>like those FOTM memegames no one bought after they watched their best e-celeb friend play it?
Last I checked, they're still making five nights at freddys
1137c3 No.15853317
>>15853172
Sounds completely gay.
So it's fairy type.
b7feef No.15853328
>Mixed 57%
>At least 250K retards bought this garbage
490a0e No.15853337
>>15853328
>Buying digital card games built especially for whales in 2018.
They deserve it.
c1219b No.15853367
>>15853315
I can't even fault Cawthon for making FNAF over and over. I sure as hell wish I could become a millionaire overnight by doing what I love.
809bf8 No.15853369
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
What did they think was going to happen when their reveal trailer gets a reaction like this? That's their core audience practically screaming their disappointment at them. And then they decide the best course of action was to make the game super expensive in a sea of decent F2P card games
b7feef No.15853381
>>15853369
It wasn't just that
All the redditors that constitute Valves current fanbase would still eat this shit up if they had done an half decent job with the game.
But the game is not only mediocre but kiked to hell and back with you having to pay for cards to win everything and pay for events.
This on top of the 20 dollar entry fee
c636b3 No.15853400
>Valve can't even make a card game without fucking up
really makes one optimistic for any potential Half-Life 3
f7e4f2 No.15853404
Jokes are now real Susan.
5c29ad No.15853427
0a7bd3 No.15853439
>>15853427
Its Hearthstone, but with 3 "lanes"
That's it.
9fed9c No.15853455
>>15853439
Hearthstone makes sense at a glance, Artifact does not. I'd never play either game let alone give Actiblizz or Valve money, but I did watch some streams. So in my opinion it is more accurate to say it's Hearthstone but with 3 "lanes", too expensive, a very poor UI, boring confusing graphics, and dreadful gameplay.
70fe08 No.15853457
>valve chasing trends way too late and failing miserably at it
Good. serves them right for being lazy kikes.
23d9ca No.15853459
>>15853439
>>15853455
I legitimately don't know anything about Hearthstone. Does it involve building up mana/land/whatever or is it like yugioh where you can just start summoning right off the bat?
41a6b3 No.15853463
Isn't the CS:GO battle royal mode bombing to?
b7feef No.15853467
>>15853459
It's casualized YugiOh with garbage cartoony Warcraft shit
b7feef No.15853472
>>15853463
CSGo as a whole is now a cheater heaven after going F2P.
The BR mode matchmaking doesn't work half of the time as well.
23d9ca No.15853478
>>15853467
So it's just early yugioh before the preamble long card effects then?
41a6b3 No.15853480
>>15853472
I thought Prime members (who have to pay) got a seperate queue from free members. I assume this means the people who already owned the game experience the same amount of cheaters.
c53e59 No.15853494
>>15853180
>>15853144
>the game received a colossal backlash due to it being made by valve
>and yet people still brought it due to it being made by valve
God I fucking hate this shit. This industry would be so much better if negative publicity could actually translate into poor sales.
b7feef No.15853515
>>15853480
>I thought Prime members (who have to pay) got a seperate queue from free members
Yep
> I assume this means the people who already owned the game experience the same amount of cheaters
Prime requires a mobile authenticator and F2P fags who got to Level 21 get Prime status
41a6b3 No.15853521
>>15853515
>F2P fags who got to Level 21 get Prime status
KEK. What the fuck is valve doing?
40d706 No.15853523
>>15853450
>People and normalfags are simply ignoring shill streamers
This is especially evident after the recent YouTube Rewind. Half the comments were just people asking who most of the featured creators were.
7ed2ea No.15853529
>>15853515
If you owned CSGO before the recent update, but you didn't have Prime, your account now has Prime.
b7feef No.15853539
>>15853529
Pretty sure you still need to authenticate via cellphone
>>15853523
Kids and third worlders inflate those numbers like you wouldn't believe
Embed very related
7ed2ea No.15853557
>>15853539
You don't need to authenticate via cellphone at all anymore.
t. bought game but never had prime and now has prime
7ed2ea No.15853561
>>15853557
>at all anymore
Insofar as if you already had bought CSGO but not Prime, that is. If you have the free version right now, you'll still need to authenticate to get Prime, fairly sure.
40d706 No.15853566
>>15853539
>Embed very related
>no embed
57c97e No.15853603
I honestly don't get it. The market is over-saturated with TCGs as literally and their mom produces them (I honestly was disappointed when I heard even CD Projekt Red jumped onto this stupid train via Gwen or whatsicalled). It's the same fucking bullshit that you had a while ago when everyone made fucking MOBAs for assorted popular franchises.
All while none of these idiots understood that the multiplayer aspect of these games meant that the entire F2P aspect would not really work out because the entire financial system - having players buy booster packs or whatnot - would not be able to sustain all games on the market when there were dozens of different games for dozens of different franchises. This shit works when you have one big fish that lures in enough whales, but not when the pond is full of fishes and every one only gets a few whales to feed from.
2c66f6 No.15853625
>>15853478
There is a mana system, but no color/type system for it. You gain 1 mana per turn with a max of 10 mana. The player going second gets an extra card called The Coin which gives them an extra mana crystal this turn when played.
23d9ca No.15853626
>>15853603
It's also really stupid to do it after half a decade of addiction has already built up among the competition. Who's seriously going to quit their card game of choice they've already spent hundreds of bucks on, at least, to go and play this instead?
c53e59 No.15853634
>>15853603
It's pretty obvious why game devs like making card games, they see it as a means with which they can get away with adopting a pay2win model.
>make sure to buy cards so you can have that winning edge goy!
>what do you mean this is unethical? this is how TCGs have always worked!
23d9ca No.15853637
>>15853634
It also takes zero effort to make in terms of asset development.
57c97e No.15853687
>>15853637
This is what I see as the main reason behind this trash train - relatively small development input with a (potentially) absurdly large development output.
b7feef No.15853694
>>15853687
It's literally mobileshit with the pretense of being otherwise
23d9ca No.15853709
>>15853687
To give you an idea of how cheap this shit is Notch wanted to work on a card game instead of Minecraft in space. That's how low the bar is being set here.
9b5c68 No.15853783
>>15853575
I'd never imagine the slow death of youtube come in this form, of all the ways people plot to take down youtube with alternatives and adnauseam, in the end, it's the third worlder that's going to zerg rush youtube to death.
2a1f5a No.15853795
Serves Gaben right.
He's nothing but a fat jew now.
b7feef No.15853800
>>15853783
You have no idea how on point you are
The biggest Youtube channel, Pewdiepie, will soon be aped by an Indian channel.
40ee71 No.15854073
>>15853066
Isn't it a pay to play?
Pay to buy the game. Pay to buy cards in the game (or at least buy on the market). Pay for tournaments and other parts of the game.
40ee71 No.15854106
>>15853625
>no mana resource system, you just get free shit every turn up to ten
Sounds dumb as shit.
659c12 No.15854108
>Making a new card game shouldn't be a problem if we get Richard Garfield to make, he even made MTG
>Why isn't anyone selling their spleen to play our game?
>What do you mean he made MTG with 10x more shit on the field?
40ee71 No.15854119
>>15854108
They might have had a chance if they didn't make everything cost money. I have no clue how it plays so I can't compare it to any other card game, but, who the fuck would want to when you can play the others for free?
659c12 No.15854157
>>15854119
>I have no clue how it plays
It's MTG with 3 lanes and both players sharing a turn. Instead of random mana you start at 3 in each lane, gain 1 each turn and everything else is random.
> who the fuck would want to when you can play the others for free?
Card games probably have one of the highest ratios of whales to players. I might even beat out gatcha mobage considering it's roots are in MTG where you always had to pay out of the ass just to start playing. If you have ever gone to an MTG tournament bigger than FNM then you would know that a lot of the players are middle class and up. Many don't spend their extra income and time on anything besides the game.
If Artifact simply had good core gameplay Valve probably could have charged even more and still managed to get a growing playerbase considering the IP they were working with.
40ee71 No.15854208
>>15854157
I've been involved in MtG before it all went downhill though wasn't big in the tourney scene. Picture related, it's mine.
05f685 No.15854243
>>15854157
>Card games probably have one of the highest ratios of whales to players
Whales won't jump if they there isn't a sizable player base already there. Why spend thousands on cards if no one else is going to give a shit? It's different from collectors as they generally collect what they like, so the player base isn't an issue there. It matters to investors as they're jews and they want a return on their investment. Players are the ones that need to take the first leap and that won't happen if a game is micro transactions out the ass from the get go. Duel Links is very successful, because you don't have to spend a dime and can just put in the time. Arena is riding off of the current success of mtg.
298503 No.15854255
This is the year of the flops and I love it.
40ee71 No.15854261
>>15854243
That Arena commercial was a travesty and just makes me desire MtG to be dead faster. A dead game cannot be raped anymore by them. After that, maybe it could be picked up by someone who cares, or left to rest peacefully.
3c099e No.15854275
valve stopped developing games a long time ago
1f5aad No.15854311
>>15853450
>there is no reliable way to know if a game is shit, so all games are shit
But that's wrong. Word of mouth and the privateer's demo work extremely well.
>>15854255
This wasn't a flop. They easily made back all the money spent on this game and then some. Because it's a Valve title, they didn't have to worry about the 30% cut that they apply to 3rd party releases on the platform.
a04a16 No.15854315
>>15853337
>>15853361
Christ. How old are these? The trollface meme went out of style years ago
48f7f9 No.15854350
>>15853005
It doesn't matter that they stopped playing, the fact is valve probably made bank
40d706 No.15854382
>>15854315
The filename on the first one indicates it's from mid-2009.
If you don't know, those filenames count every millisecond since January 1st, 1970. All you have to do is copy the first five digits, then divide them by 315. Whatever you get, add it to 1970. That will tell you what year the file is from.
490a0e No.15854389
>>15854382
Sounds right, it was in my old cuckchan folder. I revisit it sometimes.
40d706 No.15854394
>>15854382
I fucked that up, whoops. It should be 315.36. I'll be a bit off if it's just 315.
f6da18 No.15854433
>>15854336
Nice taste anon, but
You're still an idiot poopface
40ee71 No.15854451
>>15854350
They also killed some good will towards them. That's worth something.
efc255 No.15854452
>>15853459
In Hearthstone, you start the first round with 3 mana to spend. Each turn, you gain 1 max mana, up to a cap of 9, and it gets refilled. Draw cards and play them as you see fit. You play cards, then you have an attack phase and end phase. Then your opponent draws, plays cards, and has an attack phase and end phase.
In Artifact, there are three separate boards that constitute a whole match. Just like in Dota, these are called "lanes". Each lane has its own mana and cap. You can play cards in any lane, with a few restrictions that don't make any fucking sense, but you draw off of your current lane's mana. You and your opponent go back and forth playing cards until both players pass, then you have one combined attack phase. Lather, rinse, repeat for each of the three lanes, then you get to shop with whatever gold you get from dying cards. After that, the game auto-deploys creep cards to random lanes, and you get to deploy hero cards to lanes.
Hearthstone is actually really simple in its design. Artifact literally took that entire system and tripled it, then glued it together with a bunch of Dota memeshit. I was genuinely hoping this was going to be a good game, too. I knew in my heart of hearts that this was destined to be a dumpster fire of the highest degree, but I wanted so bad for this to actually work. And for it to be F2P, because the GabenJew is not getting any of my money for a long time.
05f685 No.15854453
>>15854261
There were rumors that Hasbro was going to sell off mtg while it's still riding high. I wonder how that would play out? They can only milk so many Timmies before the well dries up.
f67112 No.15854459
>>15854433
Okay, I believe you.
659c12 No.15854490
>>15854452
>In Hearthstone, you start the first round with 3 mana to spend. Each turn, you gain 1 max mana, up to a cap of 9, and it gets refilled. Draw cards and play them as you see fit. You play cards, then you have an attack phase and end phase. Then your opponent draws, plays cards, and has an attack phase and end phase.
Have you ever even played HS anon?
efc255 No.15854531
>>15854490
Yes, I know I'm probably misrepresenting it a little bit. I've played it a few times, one of my friends was a huge fan and gave me his tablet to try out. The general idea still stands. You can bully now.
659c12 No.15854554
>>15854531
Well you managed to get every facet of the game wrong besides "two people take turns playing stuff"
c29249 No.15854822
>>15854208
>$375
A shame, if it was $20 I'd add it to my planned INWO deck after making the standard changes
b532d6 No.15854831
That game already came out?
>>15853450
Honestly I use /v/ as a gauge of whether a game is worth trying or not, for all the shitposting it's good at filtering out the fake reviews
fc4dfa No.15854907
>>15854073
The term is Pay to Pay. Pay to play is your standard retail price and/or subscription fee, while pay to win is pretty much everything else after said fee. Pay to Pay combines both, you have to pay for the privilege of being able to pay more.
70557c No.15855533
>>15853005
Artifact had a playerbase??
40ee71 No.15855803
>>15854822
Speculators have ruined the market. It was already a rarer card before they fucked the secondary market for older cards. Magic collapsing will ruin them, hopefully, and maybe free up those older cards for people who want them.
2d0465 No.15855945
>make an b2p card game with ingame lootsystem and cards also having their price tags
>why aren't we succeeding if there are tons of other f2p way less gimicky card games including free shitty version of mtg of all things
Are they literally braindead?
fa72fa No.15856035
>>15853234
I just got the craziest idea.
You’re a card duelist. You’re dropped into an island with a evil gay British man with fabulously long hair overseeing the island. You’ll have to run around the island collecting cards and challenging other duelists until you and your team are the last ones standing. Then you get to fight the big overseer guy as the last man standing. He’ll be a really hard NPC, (maybe he could have some weird eye that lets him see your cards?) but if you beat him you get 10x the rewards.
I call it “Deulist Royale©”
(Copyright Anon 2018)
404648 No.15856045
>>15856035
You legit made me lose my shit.
dca45e No.15856071
At least you can make your money back by selling cards
fa72fa No.15856101
>>15853801
Funny, everyone speculated for years that Valve would take away people’s games with Steam.
Yet it was Origin who took away the entire libraries of multiple people for streaming the Anthem Alpha the other day.
Gabe Newell has made a lot of disappointing decisions, but he’s never done anything like taking away people’s games.
While his fandom was undeserved I don’t think any hatred of him is deserved either. Overall Gaben, to me is just a big “meh”.
So these Gabe Newell hate memes seem just as forced as the “lord gaben” memes.
7d7a59 No.15856207
>>15856035
Lmao, well done.
955950 No.15856247
>>15856035
I get the joke, but that sounds pretty fun.
5787a5 No.15856263
why isn't there an illuminati online card game? with the original art? I bought that starter deck when I was a kid.
0b7d95 No.15856269
>>15856101
I just watched Yongyea's video, there's no reason to believe that the dude who streamed Anthem has any other games on his origin account at all.
05f7a5 No.15856281
>>15853005
>card game.
>battle royal.
>he said it for no reason.
354076 No.15856318
>>15856281
They'll find a way.
b7feef No.15860186
>>15856101
That shit actually happened in the early days of Steam if you tried to rip people off or pissed off Valve enough times they would downright lock/delete your account.
de4366 No.15860220
>>15856035
I wonder how duel links is doing? Anyone got stats for that? It was fun until I fought the same deck 20x in a row and had no chance of getting more gems.
a975b6 No.15860277
Reminder that we could have gotten half life 3 instead of this if valve gave half a damn
It seems they don't
06d22b No.15860295
>>15860277
Do you want modern valve to ruin it, Look at the ff7 remake the third birthday and resi2 remake all have lost the soul of the original series.
a975b6 No.15860322
>>15860306
>>15860295
point is that even now, half life could be a marketable IP. We don't need old devs to make a decent product, just devs who give half a damn
but they have no developers like that left
24ac22 No.15860394
>>15854452
>In Hearthstone, you start the first round with 3 mana to spend. Each turn, you gain 1 max mana, up to a cap of 9, and it gets refilled. Draw cards and play them as you see fit. You play cards, then you have an attack phase and end phase. Then your opponent draws, plays cards, and has an attack phase and end phase.
You literally could not be more wrong.
b04eba No.15860410
Funny thing is, Artifact is less expensive tha Hearthstone overall.
while at the same time people are ignoring the absolutely terrible, anti consumer practice of trading card games where games like Artifact, Hearthstone etc are by far the worst offenders, where you can easily spend up to 50 EUR for a deck. Magic the Gathering is the worst offender of this, where you can spend up to 400 EUR for a deck.
also card packs are gambling.
b7feef No.15860837
>>15860830
Except Gay Dead Red 2 sold well
3bac7b No.15860877
>>15860837
because they tried their hardest to hide leftist propaganda in their marketing previous to release
0c2101 No.15860882
>>15860830
>impotent
3rd time I've seen an anon use this word in the last 24 hours
you made those other posts too didnt you
94a2da No.15860940
I read that in addition to the 20$ entry fee and the costs for the cards, you still need to pay extra cash to play certain game modes like that one where you get a random pre-assembled deck. Is that true?
b7feef No.15860947
>>15860882
Of course he did
He spams 4 other boards as well
955950 No.15860955
>>15860947
>He spams 4 other boards as well
Which ones?
b7feef No.15860961
>>15860955
-/cow/
-/pol/
-/tv/
-/vg/
955950 No.15860968
>>15860961
Well that seems pretty fitting.
0c2101 No.15860978
>>15860947
hey look >>15860970
b7feef No.15861002
>>15860978
Son, you'll spot him in countless other threads as well >>15860100, it's not hard to spot him
0c2101 No.15861030
>>15861022
stop projecting your impotency so much
955950 No.15861043
>>15861037
I could accept some coincidence if it was just a few posts one or two times, but that nigger, whether it's you or someone else, has been going on about impotency for months.
955950 No.15861083
>>15861067
Yeah, no, it's definitely your faggot ass who's been spamming. Die.
7ed2ea No.15861151
>>15861083
Stay impotent, soykike.
c037bc No.15861166
>>15855803
>>15854822
I could never get into real life card games because of shit like "going out of season" just so you have to buy more cards. Be nice if they could just print, sell, and then GTFO and do something else.
cb86f6 No.15861182
>>15861043
You must mean when people say the mods are impotent, because they are ban happy faggots that cant accept the bans are evaded 99% of the time and completely pointless
fce1b5 No.15861219
>>15861182
Aww, is baby mad he got banned? Reported for ban evasion, faggot. Stop posting.
cb86f6 No.15861224
>>15861219
I am not evading any ban. I have not been banned *today*
fce1b5 No.15861226
>>15861224
Yeah right, homo. Prove it.
cb86f6 No.15861247
>>15861226
>prove it
I don't even know how I could. Not like it matters anyway
6543bc No.15861513
I guess you could say Artifact's half life is only a week.
e28f4b No.15861523
>>15861450
You're the one who's impotent here, not me. Reported for spam.
9ef464 No.15861528
>>15861513
Goddammit Carlos, shut the fuck up.
a68be4 No.15861602
d4b4be No.15861702
>>15861513
Are you fucking kidding me
c2d9e5 No.15864144
>>15853212
<before
>it didnt get a 7 or higher on <cum guzzling game news source>, must be shit
<now
>it didnt get 10k viewers on <cum guzzling game streaming source>, must be shit
Nothing has changed.
20225d No.15864155
>>15853212
That's always been a thing, the majority of people don't seem to be able to make decisions for themselves and reply on others to do it for them, before twitch they would rely on reviewers to do the thinking for them with the mentally of "These sites told gave it an X rating so it must be bad, no I haven't played it." now it's been changed to twitch and how many viewers a game gets.
9fed9c No.15864548
>each daily peak is at least 1000 players lower than the last
4fb484 No.15864587
>>15853212
Pretty sure that's not the point that was being made
>This game's twitch viewership is bleeding badly
>but if the gameplay were any good then daily player stats would go up regardless
484aad No.15864635
>>15856269
>Yongyea
Giga faggot not even worth the time of day.
7d7a59 No.15864742
>>15864635
As far as videogames are concerned, he's fine.
9fed9c No.15864758
>>15864742
He has a very surface-level view of things and spends about 90% of his videos reading articles out. The other 10% is him reading from his script, which you can see his eyes darting back to every so often.
24abfc No.15864821
>>15854831
Yea but you dont just look at some random post that says "X is great" and decide to buy it, you still apply at least some sort of brain power to determine why you would like the game. Normalfags even buy games in genres they wouldnt even consider/arent aware of existing if the right person told them to buy it.
7d7a59 No.15864839
>>15864758
Exaactly, he's a de-cancerized article reader and nothing more, which is fine.
9fed9c No.15864932
Artifact daily peak players
60,740 (Nov 29)
47,429
46,456
43,921
37,149
33,115
28,446
25,237
20,408
19,691
17,672
13,948
12,475
11,596
10,516 (Dec 13)
The zero point is fast approaching.
23d9ca No.15865227
>>15864932
It has officially gone below Battleborn's peak.
https://steamcharts.com/app/394230
e02b75 No.15865305
>>15864758
>The other 10% is him reading from his script, which you can see his eyes darting back to every so often
You can't seriously tell me you'd prefer him to improvise his speech on the spot and have his videos riddled with stutters and bad grammar like the vast majority of all retards who pick up a camera.
He's done some decent research videos, such as the one where he profiled the final Fantasy Tactics kickstarter campaign that became a dumpster fire.
b1ceb5 No.15865315
>>15865227
Was Battleborn's peak post-F2P?
23d9ca No.15865323
1d0cf3 No.15867893
>>15861513
>Even the Carlos shitposting is going up in quality
Isn2019 going to be the year it all went right?
be27c4 No.15876590
fb9a65 No.15877572
>>15853015
Underrated post.
bfd98f No.15877684
>>15861513
I admit it, I lol'd
ebaf04 No.15877723
dont worry this will be fixed in 2 years when they get around to adding things that matters while breaking half the game
2efdfa No.15877804
>>15860410
>also card packs are gambling.
An interesting thought. I only played one card game as a kid, the Wizards of the Coast Star Wars one, and in that each booster pack had something like one rare, three uncommons, and six commons in it, if I recall correctly. I'd assume this is fairly standard elsewhere, right? To me, this is less like gambleing because you are always guaranteed to get a rare card in each pack. A loot boxes might give you one rare item, or it might give you one common piece of shit, so the risks are much higher.
c3972f No.15877819
>>15877804
It's very much gambling if the resell market value of those "rares", based on player demand, range from almost nothing to several times the price of the pack.
43314e No.15877837
>>15861513
Not bad, not bad at all.
ba0046 No.15877910
>>15877804
Assured rarity is fairly common, however that means nothing when within that rarity the value massively fluctuates. That's not even getting into games that have multiple possible rarities as the highest rarity in a pack or foils. It's still gambling.
ebaf04 No.15877928
they actually expect you to be ok with virtual card game having the same economy as real one
its all imaginary and you are supposed to take it as seriously as real cards
fuck you
ee7e73 No.15877999
>>15877928
I've seen threads stretching back for years on /v/, wondering if Valve would ever take advantage of the Steam market to make a trading card game where you could actually trade the cards. (Hearthstone sure as shit isn't a TCG, it's a Collectible Card Game at best.)
I had some hope for Artifact, because it was doing something more interesdting than what it's contemporaries are doing in terms of gameplay. But Valve have chosen to not just shoot themselves in the foot by infesting the game with RNG at every level, but blown their entire foot off by then making the game itself tough to understand and master.
If it were just a difficult game with deep mechanics, then it would still attract an audience like myself who are looking for that kind of game. If it was simple to play and festooned with RNG, a la Hearthstone, then it would do just fine because normalfags eat that shit up.
But for some baffling fucking reason, they chose to have it both ways. The players who want a challenging game will give up because the game's RNG on every level, and the casual players are too retarded to play the game at all. Artifact has no target audience. That's a bigger sin, in my eyes, than what they tried to pull off with the marketplace. (They'll never go F2P, by the way, because if people could infinitelty generate cards without paying, it would lower the prices of all cards until they eventually approached worthlessness.)
ae924a No.15878769
>>15877999
Nice.
>Difficult game with deep mechanics
>want
I also share the sentiment, but it seems like they can't make anything anymore without rubbing shit on it or designing it for normalfags.
What if you could infinitely generate cards for free, but they eventually died, like having a set number of times they can be killed (from playing them in games) before they go poof? Addtionally, the better cards you play in matches determines the quality you can generate- so it creates natural progression with mutating player decks. You might think again about playing your ultra-rare golem of assrape +3 every match, but if you don't play it at least sometimes you'll never generate any good replacements (win or lose, but winning gives you a +1 or something in the generation algorithm as a reward for playing well). The fact that cards eventually die and go away after 5 or even 10 deaths means that inflation never truly occurs as deflation is constantly happening, especially for mid-level cards that are being played all the time. Due to this, you might also get hilarious meme strategies where an entire deck is dedicated to nuking ultra-rares when they're played in order to cause salt.
The possibilities are organic and many.
4665a1 No.15878884
This game is pretty much the perfect example of Valve's ivory tower syndrome. I bet they were completely confused by the awful reception it got when it was first revealed at that dota tournament.
Also Valve barely has the work ethic to maintain games like CS:GO, Dota 2, and TF2. How the FUCK are they going to release card expansions at a regular rate to keep players playing? Every card game release new card expansions every couple of months (usually three) to keep the meta fresh and the players playing. Does valve really have the work ethic to release expansions like these when they can't even be arsed to make seasonal events for games like dota? Hell they gave up completely on official Dota 2 majors.
7d7e5e No.15878889
>>15856269
>I just watched Yongyea's video
You don't belong here.
27b581 No.15878909
>you have to pay to queue competitive
>you have to pay to queue competitive
>you have to pay to queue competitive
>you have to pay to queue competitive
>you have to pay to queue competitive
>you have to pay to queue competitive
>you have to pay to queue competitive
>you have to pay to queue competitive
a64689 No.15879060
>>15877999
They maybe could have had made a system where there is a limited amount of actual cards but with the increase in players base and with players playing new cards get injected into the card pool. The more a person plays the more powerful cards the more rare cards he injects. Maybe have a system where obviously if somebody hogs rare cards he can't actually win games because there is a set amount of cards you can own at one time. I dunno just making up ideas. Or you can gather rare cards and then put them on a market as a pack.
9fed9c No.15887117
>>15864932
10,538 (Dec 14)
11,094 Saturday
10,084
8,625
8,142 (Dec 18)
Here we see a very small weekend bump followed by a continuing crash, actually more than I predicted.
The sentiment on the plebbit is turning extremely sour. Some plebbitors are now blaming plebbit itself for the downturn but they are widely downvoted and mocked. This shows that paid comments/upvotes are being drowned out by reality.
Some streamers are still delusional in regards to the future, tournaments, players, etc, but the views are crashing to such a degree that even they are abandoning it. They ask themselves: does the payola outweigh the death of their channel? Continue to stream a dead game and the audience also dies. One even included the phrase "dead game" in his stream title.
>>15865315
JUST
b7feef No.15887145
>>15887117
>Some plebbitors are now blaming plebbit itself for the downturn but they are widely downvoted and mocked. This shows that paid comments/upvotes are being drowned out by reality.
That's just reddit whenever any product is being discussed.
9fed9c No.15887229
>>15887145
I only look it at when analysing dead game sentiment and marketing. In other dead game plebbits apart from Artifact I have seen such comments being upvoted. I'm not aware of what plebbit is like outside of that.
4e2c90 No.15887237
>>15856071
I made around $14 and spent $20 on the game. So, I wasted $6 for front seat tickets to a dumpster fire.
ae2b5e No.15887285
post yfw this game is crashing and burning hard
a4e19d No.15887306
>>15853523
>This is especially evident after the recent YouTube Rewind. Half the comments were just people asking who most of the featured creators were.
That was some spectacular fail.
I mean the animated part had PewDiePie easter eggs in it and nobody at YT realized it (because of course PewDiePie despite being the normest of normalfags is blacklisted even if he's YT biggest channel on suspicion that he might be Hitler as the only white male E-celeb), proof they're a bunch of retards that can't even proof their own content.
ae2b5e No.15887332
465b44 No.15889526
haha i'm so glad blizzards game gets to keep its monopoly on the card game genre!
us gamers, amirite?
b7feef No.15889530
>>15889526
>Shitstone
>Playing digital card games
fe4d24 No.15889541
>>15889526
You're the reason why TCG is dead in my area and I cannot find any place to play Magic, YGO or Pokemon. I cannot even find places to play board games. There is one local D&D Meetup.
a00956 No.15889771
>>15877572
Yeah, I upvoted it. Hopefully it gets a lot more upvotes, maybe even 8chan Gold.
aadc4e No.15891297
Two streams with viewcount over 10
bb9cea No.15891314
>>15891297
>9 viewer stream titled "Game is not Dead"
012e50 No.15895748
>>15889530
Gonna need a story behind that webm anon
8fdbd3 No.15895764
This generation is the best simply because it's the one where the Western industry was faced with the brutal reality: they are shit, they have always been shit, and they will never not be shit.
6987c4 No.15896136
>>15889541
>TCG is dead in my area
Wish I could say the same. TCGs (and TCG players) all deserve the dark oblivion of death.
>I cannot find any place to play Magic, YGO or Pokemon
This is the /tg/ equivalent of being unable to find people to play Call of Duty with. I'll trade you, you retarded piece of shit, because that's all people play here, just like anywhere else.
743909 No.15896520
>>15860220
I still play and enjoy it. There’s almost always events going on and if you play your cards right you can make enough gems to grab viable decks every so often. I’ve never payed a dime and I do pretty well.
1fb0f4 No.15896537
>>15895748
some underage fag on 4/r9k/ an heroed cause he was blackmailed into being a fag. He also livestreamed it for your convenience.
e02b75 No.15896581
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15895748
>>15896537
Embed related is a decent summary; I didn't know the guy in the shotgun webm was the victim of this, though.
Fuck, man, that boy had a family and they're going to see that for the rest of their lives. This isn't even the kind of gore I can laugh at, it's just depressing.
1cff73 No.15896886
>>15896581
>victim
he deserved it
cab876 No.15896979
>>15896886
>dumb kids deserve abuse
No.
563f0b No.15896981
>>15896979
They do, and the mentally ill group of faggots deserve worse
cab876 No.15896987
>>15896981
Teenagers are impressionable and millennials have been exposed to this bullshit from the very first day of their education if not earlier when the parents were shitty too. It's not their fault at all.
931647 No.15896996
>>15895748
>>15896537
the best part was his mom walking and seeing what had happened also 4chin got shut down for awhile as they tried to piece together what happened.
d4c521 No.15897147
b7feef No.15900874
>>15897147
A skinnerbox to reap microtransactions and paywall money from retarded Valve and DOTA whales.