/v/ - Video Games

I was offline during the weeks surrounding the big demo day. Were there any especially notable games that I should look at first before I begin digging through the links?

>>13823555

will you be able to use the cannon as the brakes / more throttle / sidedash?

>>13823567

I was thinking of allowing heavy customization where yeah you could have a cannon which would do that but you could also have a machine gun which reduces handling on other tankettes if fire is sustained or even a flak gun which blocks sight for abit, rocket lunchers which push everything it hits to a degree depending on how close you hit them, flame throwers which leave lingering flames that do worse slow and block for much shorter amount of time then the flak and machine gun.

thinking about it, there's alot to this so long as you get everything right about it

>>13824098

I'd imagine this would require a ton of tweaking to not come across as awkward. I remember a gun mod for Oblivion that was just a reskin of the staff

>>13824109

The animation for this revolver is a bit goofy, seeing as it's treated as a bow. The musket mod I have looks much better though.

>>13824501

>I was thrown out of /v/

he got autistic with it and got the usual response to that kinda shit, no one wanted him to leave

>>13824501

I'm kind of sad that he ended up melting down over this, he was doing good work.

>>13824545

honestly I really liked his work

>>13824501

All I'm seeing is a one-sided conversation where he's aggressively accusing you of shit and being paranoid

>>13824545

I wish the coversation didn't end up with me blocking him, I really did think his work was good it's just he came off as agressive.

I really hope that he starts up a new project, if he chilled out a bunch he seems like the guy who I'd like to work with. He's obviously devoted to what he does, so it's no surprise he became emotionally charged for him.

>>13824580

On a good day, anywhere from 6 to 7 hours.

On a bad day, one or two. I hope Tetradev comes back and gets back into the metaphorical saddle, the guy pushed himself.

>>13824585

>>13824580

He'll probably gitgud at 3D modeling, switch to unreal 4 and make a really badass looking michael jackson waifu game that plays like devil may cry killing cyborgs.

<BUT

tbh, some other dude was also making a type of hack and slash game like that and he got taken under the rotted wing of sony.

>>13824772

artfags are very important and rather underrated tbh.

>every bit of art you draw for a game and show off has the potential to keep people interested in your game for YEARS

>visualizing your game is massively important to the people actually working on your game as it keeps people stay coherent in it's design

not to mention the fact that good art design can reduce the bigger issues of a game to a more tolerable level

>>13824834

I know you're right anon, but I meant I felt useless to myself as I have the game idea in my head but only the ability to draw the concept and maybe make a bad model of it. I feel like by learning code I can take the model a little further into some actual gameplay.

>>13824858

so long as it's tankette I wouldn't mind

>>13824098

>firearms in Morrowind

Will it be compatible with OpenMW? I would play it. Make it stalker themed tbh

>>13824865

Yeah you are going to get a armored tractor as a starting vehicle :^). I have other things in mind. I would like to add shit like inventory, customization for almost everything like having the ability to change the engine, different weapons, ammo types and so on. As well special parts that can modify attributes of other equipments or modules. 2 Factions to choose from when starting the game and then both of them have to deal with about 3 hostile factions or so. Vehicles should have the ability for "cosmetic" customization like decals, camouflage and other stuff.

Such shit hasn't been done yet, and there is no FOSS game that comes even remotely close to my idea. So practically it will play like a third person game in real time, maybe even some sort of a squad system when things doesn't become 2complex4me. And no I am not a idea fag I made a few mods before and models too. So theoretically I just need as I wrote before git gud at python and learning how Godot works, I will see. I am reading another book about it right now since the other scrub book had some python 2 code in it and I don't know how to unfuck it so that it works on python 3.

>>13824098

Blasphemy.

Emba-5 exists

>>13824778

That's a generic programming task. What does that have to do with unity?

>>13824950

sounds like a thing which isn't like the thing that I sounded like tbh

>>13825022

What a shame.

>>13824580

4~7 hours every day, even weekends

+1~6 hours coordinating artists about 5 days per week harder than herding cats holy shit

>>13825030

tbh I don't think your not tankette racing gayme could be bad thing

>>13825031

>coordinating artists

What does this involve, just telling them what they need to do or just trying to get the shit you told them to do?

>>13825047

Grabbing references, telling them to do the thing you want over and over until they stop pretending to forget about it, grabbing more references, making sure they know how a jungle is different from a forest, grabbing even more references because the ones you found were not 4k HD, so they were too small

Keeping your cool is key, knowing when your artists are not "inspired" and telling them to try again next day is important

>>13825072

Are you paying these artists?

Also I'm interested in what your artist can produce, could you link their best work or post some of it here?

>>13825115

hope you're not paying for their shit work

>>13825115

>>13825072

If I was paying people to produce artwork I wouldn't put up with this crap. Both of these are dogshit, the one on the "good" day could pass for talentless hack attempts, the one on the right was doodled in the span of 5 minutes just so you would fuck off.

>>13825265

>>13825140

>>13825131

he was clearly unwell that day, he remade it later, i only paid for the remake

ah shit he is going to read this and get all depressed, sorry dude

Are there any engine that work by just giving you a graphics context, and an ECS framework? It feels like the best compromise between "here's some triangle drawing primitives have fun" and "heres six million LOC of undocumented features have fun"

>>13825667

You're probably accessing a different object.

>>13825675

Yeah I just noticed all my Mesh Renderers are already set, and I have like 10 for different parts of my model

Guess I'm going to have to get them all and change the renderer.enabled for each one

>>13824999

Probably nothing, but it's better to give additional info in case it does.

>>13825006

Are there any specific key-phrases to search that'd help me find information about the most crucial concepts? Stuff that is obvious in hindsight but hard to find if you don't know the proper terms and so on. I already watched some videos explaining basics of neurons, weights, layers and thresholds.

Did you make something cool in the end?

Why doesn't this work? I'm kind of a nigger and can't understand console messages when they get too complex

rends = GameObject.Find("playerArmature").gameObject.FindObjectsOfType(typeof(Renderer)) as Renderer[];

Gives me the error

Assets/Scripts/CharacterControllerLogic.cs(117,26): error CS0176: Static member `UnityEngine.Object.FindObjectsOfType(System.Type)' cannot be accessed with an instance reference, qualify it with a type name instead

I know the problem is definitely with

GameObject.Find("playerArmature").gameObject

Because without that it does manage to find all the renderers in the scene

using Unity

is there any way to make a program that can press onscreen buttons?

i had a dumb idea of trying to make a neural network that can learn to play yugioh, but i don't want to have to script an entire game when ygopro already exists.

and then i'd still need some way to get the AI to visually see life points to see if fitness is improving

if this is actually feasible, i'd be doing it with c#

>>13825703

If you're using a library then all you need is in the manual, if you're making your own shit then you need reinforced learning, deep back propagation and genetic algorithms (just to optimize the network faster).

Neural network is essentially a huge fuckoff matrix, all you're doing is multiplying input vector to get an output vector.

>>13824752

So what you're saying is Tetradev has had to spend more time removing bloat from Unity than he'd needed building a custom engine from scratch?

I understand that like most Unityfags, he probably would never have gotten to this point had he not had the bloat as a foundation to start from and eventually grow out of, but I still feel vindicated in my despise for Unity.

>>13825832

Yeah this guy that didn't work on his game definitely knows how a guy that disappeared into the night was devving his game

>>13825792

You're calling FindObjectsOfType on the instance gameObject (the one from "playerArmature").

Try:

GameObject.Find("playerArmature").gameObject.GetComponents<Renderer>()

or if you want to include its children (I'm guessing you do, otherwise I wouldn't expect more than 1 Renderer component from an object):

GameObject.Find("playerArmature").gameObject.GetComponentsInChildren

One more tip, try separating the call to GameObject.Find and FindObjectsOfType, and do an if-statement to check if GameObject.Find actually returned a valid result.

If you do this often, then also consider getting the renderers only once in the BeginPlay and cache them, because these Find functions will slow you down if you do them often

>>13825948

Thank you, that worked.

I am already getting the playerarmature in a separate call, I just wrote it like that so that it would take up less space.

Gonna have to switch between render.enabled and disabled so yeah, going to get them in Start () and then do a foreach to disable all of them when I need it

Thank you <3

>>13826062

I want the protag to be adult (30+ years old), so even in a chibi-like style he will have to be bigger

>>13826062

Holy shit anon this is a great gift, i think i will base my protag on Red's proportions

>>13826137

There's also a bunch of models for the "Adults" in the pokemon games, maybe those would work better

>>13826145

Red is adult in Sun&Moon

>>13826158

I dropped Sun and Moon after a few hours, didn't know oops

>>13826171

Dunno, his game was technically really impressive but he was banking his whole life on it being a giant hit and had put close to no effort into giving it a cohesive aesthetic or a theme.

Even if he had released it he probably would've ended up going bankrupt from all the financial troubles he had and the fact that he refused to find a normal job.

>>13826525

For a moment there, I thought you'd put the SS logo on his chest.

>>13825072

Inspiration does come and go, some days (or months) I don't even feel like opening Photoshop

Luckily I'm more of a programmer

>>13824501

Wow this really makes me sad and angry. Sad, because he seems totally fucked and i hate to see him go of the deep end. Angry, because every time he posted he got praise and positive feedback and now everyone was an asshole and /agdg/ wont tell anyone the whole story.

He could have posted something so people wouldnt have to guess, but now people have to speculate and the only thing to go on is the post in the Automata general, that may or may not have been made by him.

And what does he expect people to say? If people want the game to be finished the only thing to tell him is to suck it up or adapt. If he cant do that hes fucked anyways, even if its not hsi fault.

>>13826719

Inspired by one of the Earlier Ultimas I see!

>>13824501

i can't see why he wasn't able to ignore the whole nier thing. if nier wasn't such an easy comparison they'd be calling it "DMC but with robot waifu protagonist" instead.

people are going to compare your game to whatever, especially if you're indie. there's no point in trying to fight something like that because people will be people.

i do hope he keeps going, even if he doesn't post here anymore, but he's got a shitty mentality about the whole clone game thing.

sage because borderline not videogames e-drama circlejerking

Give me the quick rundown on this tetradev guy. Does he think Nier plagiarized his game or something?

>>13826978

>balancing

Why don't you make flintlock firearms then?

>>13827026

That's pretty much what I have done, with exception for the revolver. I'm not sure how much damage the guns should deal to be honest. The two long guns deal 20-60 and 40-70 damage respectively, and the revolvers do 10-50 and 10-60. I'm also unsure about the cost and quality.

>>13827070

Well, they should do high damage, but have long reload. Compare them to existing bows in this regard.

>>13827126

What if I remove the damage variation and make it so they do flat 50, 60, or 70 damage, then make them very slow?

>>13827134

>>13826978

How about this, the first few ammunition that is available are of poor quality and thus don't make much damage? If the player wants to get not shit ammo then well he has to work for it as in get a lot of shekels or through other means.

Found this while looking for tutorials and this guy seems to legitimately know what he's talking about, lots of good videos

>>13827171

There are different grades/materials for long gun ammo, but the small arms don't have that variation yet. The grade doesn't matter too much, but I'll change it so that it does.

>>13825297

tell him to not work on bad days tbh

>>13826640

blow him out of the jam tbh

>>13827501

you can talk with me and say that it's a bad day and I'll understand you know cos I'm not paying you ;^)

>>13826640

crease

>>13827278

>It's satire where someone designs a ForLoop library

Sounds hilarious, please find it, i love this kind of shit

>>13827278

>ForLoop

kek wish I knew.

On a slightly related note, Sauerbraten's code uses macro'd forloops:

#define loop(v,m) for(int v = 0; v<int(m); v++)
#define loopi(m) loop(i,m)
#define loopj(m) loop(j,m)
#define loopk(m) loop(k,m)
#define loopl(m) loop(l,m)
#define loopirev(v) for(int i = v-1; i>=0; i--)

>>13827699

>>13827707

that head wobble is really abit much

>>13826935

Yes, he believes that when Yoko Taro came here, he saw the /agdg/ thread and his robowaifu, and decided to base 2B on her.

>>13827707

>that fall 17 seconds in

Are your legs ok? This stuff looks really good, although I have no idea how much of that is because of pre-existing content.

>>13827751

The music and sounds are original but the textures and (aside a few like the soldiers) models are stock/placeholder being used well.

The gameplay is heavily modded half life 2. I've made changes to not just player speed but also to enemy reaction time among other vast differences such as rebalancing damages and health completely.

The maps are completely original and took a stupid amount of time to make so far.

Basically I took what was there already and made it good instead of shit. Half life 2 Soldiers more or less were gimped heavily in the actual game and are mainly set to the stupid tactics.

You have to remember my goal here is to make my dream world more than it is to create a sellable game with wholly assets. If I can reuse textures and models I will until i have to change them because the world is going to be massive.

>>13827725

Maybe allow objects to register callbacks (can be lambda functions) to the collision listener, with function objects (can be created as lambdas too) that return a bool to decide when the callback needs to be triggered? Something, very roughly like:

	using CollisionTriggerFunc = std::function<bool(CollisionComponent&, CollisionComponent&)>;
	using CallbackFunc = std::function<void(CollisionComponent&, CollisionComponent&)>;
	auto trigger = [](CollisionComponent& lhs, CollisionComponent& rhs)
	{
		return rhs.name == "Player";
	};

	auto callback = [](CollisionComponent& lhs, CollisionComponent& rhs)
	{
		printf("trigger was activated because %s collided with %s\n", lhs.name, rhs.name);
	};

	triggerObject.collisionComponent->addTriggerCallback(trigger, callback);
	

	struct TriggerCallback
	{
		CollisionTriggerFunc trigger;
		CallbackFunc callback;
	}
	CollisionComponent::addTriggerCallback(CollisionTriggerFunc trigger, CallbackFunc callback)
	{
		m_callbacks.push_back(TriggerCallback{ trigger, callback });
	}
	CollisionComponent::OnCollide(CollisionComponent& other)
	{
		for (auto& callback : m_callbacks)
		{
			if (callback.trigger(*this, other))
			{
				callback.callbackFunction(*this, other);
			}
		}
	}
	

>>13827883

Thanks anon, i'll try that later on, i've started setting up my lua event system now but your solution will be useful for internal events.

>>13828072

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3750124/how-to-convert-a-bitmap-font-fon-into-a-truetype-font-ttf

It's a bit old but it may work.

If you don't want to mess around with Linux you can give me the .fon file and I can try to do it on my native install.

>>13828072

>.fon file

Where the fuck did you even find that shit

>inb4 it's some illegible trash

https://www.files-conversion.com/font/fon

This will probably work, there's a bunch of online converters for fonts

>>13828398

smash them together. Learn what sounds are, and how they work. Try and put a face to the vague concepts in your head. That's how most art works.

Like, when you first draw a foot, you draw the idea of a foot in your mind, not the foot itself. So it looks like an amoeba with bumps on it. But when you learn the proper way to think about 3D shapes, and you internalize the structure of a foot, you'll draw it right. Same concepts apply to sound. You just need to understand the underlying structure of sound, your perception of sound and how sounds are produced in the natural world. The rest comes naturally. Most of it can be learned by watching other people work with sound.

I'm pretty new to it myself, but here's a sound I made by splicing together 6-7 samples: https://soundcloud.com/rottenhuman/salvagedsniper

The more you learn about sound and pacing, the better your shit will get. Just keep trying and you'll get there.

>>13828398

Do you mean making them? From the little I've seen it seems studios use props to make the a base sound which they'll alter. Like snapping tweaks for breaking bones and such. I'm sure if you hunt around there'll be some "backstage" footage of people recording for them. I guess it depends on what type of sound effects you need though.

>Tetradev

I wanted to accuse him of ripping off P.N.03 to see how he'd react but now it's just sort of sad.

>>13828738

prove it

>>13828738

>using GLFW

>not using the underlying API's

>>13828899

Show us your win32 spaghetti.

>>13828409

>>13828871

my raytracer uses opengl/glfw as an over-glorified framebuffer that means i know it right

>>13828948

>visual studio

>>13828978

Not using libraries just for the sake of being able to say that you dont use them is pretty retarded, or is your custom implementation functionally different?

>>13828983

>why not use it?

For me it's always been really weirdly demanding on hardware for some reason.

>>13828988

You can disable some of the really bloated code audit tools like IntelliSense, its pretty fast after that.

>>13829045

Wow, I don't think I've ever seen a Windows program in my entire life that doesn't freeze when the window is moved. Color me impressed.

>>13827501

It would be a pain to work with anyone else, since i cannot transfer my thoughts directly to people.

You do a great job when you try

>>13829063

I didn't think about making it do that until I ported my program to X11 and saw it not freezing up, then when I ran it on Windows the behavior really bothered me. The fix is simple, but it's still stupid that you have to do that.

>>13828258

I don't know what this font is supposed to look like. Loading it into font forge I get a pixel font, but when I export it to a BDF I get 6 different files, each of which is less and less pixelated.

I picked the most pixelated font but the autotrace feature doesn't play nice with such low resolution fonts and if I were to go forward I would be spending hours doing either cleanup or drawing the font by hand, character by character. I'm sorry but that's too much work when I have other things to do.

>>13829163

You're welcome. Sorry I couldn't figure it out.

>>13829169

I'm sure I'll get it right sometime in the future. It's not like I can't prototype with a default font and replace it later down the line.

>>13829223

That's fucking hilarious. Do you have any more gems saved?

>>13829282

No, I just saved these from last thread. And don't knock the guy; he has real talent, even if his ego and victimhood has outgrown it.

>>13829306

he's basically our very own dobson

>>13829306

I don't know why anyone would hold it against him. That game was probably his life for a while and then someone came along and stole it from him.

>>13829354

I thought I had downloaded the entire fucking series because this was 10 MB

>>13829348

>That game was probably his life for a while and then someone came along and stole it from him.

<defending his delusions

Have a (You).

>>13829362

I don't disagree that he's insane and deserved to be bullied, but he has real talent and I would like to see him get over himself and finish his game.

>>13829377

He's still working on his game, even if he's not able to get over himself.

>>13829377

>>13829382

>I would like to see him get over himself and finish his game

Honestly don't think that'll ever happen, the project is overambitious, it's pretty much scoped like a AA to AAA game, and he's too much of a perfectionist to make the kinds of drastic cuts that would be required to get this thing out before 2030. Instead he should apply for jobs with his progress as is portfolio. Would also help with the whole poorfag situation.

>>13829382

Is he? If the log is any indication, he seems on the verge of dumping it.

Of course, I trust him about as far as I'd throw him, but.

>>13829499

tbqf its not like the game is really all that original or good. I know he's alone and blah blah blah but I personally wouldn't be interested in playing it even for free.

>>13829499

He added some ass jiggle and gizmos, last I checked. And a console. Technically they might be part of the game.

>>13829520

I'm a total sucker for spectacle fighters though, and I would definitely check out the game if it ever releases.

>>13829549

Something I've noticed is that the rain effect covers your screen in jaggies. Is there any way you can make the rain translucent or add some AA to it without tanking the framerate?

>>13829746

He opened up with a food analogy, he lost before he even started.

>>13829746

wtf i love emergent gameplay now

>>13829746

$5 says he thinks "better coffee" is Starbucks.

>>13829746

tbh from my time developing a mod for Rust, the approach that works best is to cover your head with ashes and be apologetic and genuinely explain why things are the way they are and that you're working to fix it. Gets incredibly positive responses.

>>13829967

#3 or #5

>>13829967

#1 and #6 are by far the spookiest

>>13830036

>>13829997

>>13829995

Great, so we've narrowed it down to anything BUT #4

>>13830039

Just putting this out there, but I was leaning towards #4.

>>13829967

#6 or #4 has my vote.

>>13829995

I've heard people say that elongated limbs is a sure way to instill creepyness in a human-like figure, but I think 3&5 go a bit overboard; the limbs look too frail and impractical.

>>13829967

Also, #5 looks like you could have a drooling mouth where the vagina should be, sort of like an angler fish. The upper body can be sort of like a bait

>>13830039

Fuck it just roll a d6.

>>13829967

I'd go with #5 or #6, the others don't have a strong enough effect, I think. Although, #6 is a bit too unsubtle to me.

>>13829967

#1 is the most original. The rest look a little plain, like cannon fodder in a horror game.

>>13829967

>>13830039

Make it a gelatinous skinwalker that shifts through all of these forms in spastic movements. You could make a sick walkcycle out of these poses.

I have a lot of trouble remembering and dealing with mathematical concepts, especially arbitrary shit like "forward", "left", "up", etc. What do?

>>13830179

guilty as charged

>>13830197

Got any specific things you don't understand? Forward, left and up, are pretty ambiguous without any context.

>>13830219

Just an example of something I'm bad at. They're arbitrary directions chosen by unity.

>>13830226

Are they not [1,0,0], [0,1,0], and [0,0,1] by default, or rather, a unit on each axis?

>>13830197

That's not a good way to think about it. Think about them as axis and values on the axis.

>>13829727

Try particle effects.

For HDR, check out this tutorial. The important part is that you can modify the HDR exposure values in-game with the dev console.

https://youtu.be/XEWmdRfG0xU?t=13m43s

inb4 >reddit

also look into color correction:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9Qnr2N9joE

>>13830160

Buying two Kinects of the second gen will lead to very solid mocap like embed related there are much better videos, just cant find them right now, however im not sure if it'll be effective when doing something crazy like you're trying to

>>13830301

>If you run into any issues, just launch Alien Swarm and use its authoring tools to generate the color correction file

Oh man, Source seems like a journey

>>13830308

I don't understand why anyone would develop for Source anymore.

>>13830354

>I had lewder designs in my head, but I thought that if I went any futher I'd just be creating silent hill monster porn.

I mean, just look at Evolve

>>13830304

>Microsoft Kinect SDK 2.0 supports only sigle sensor per computer. So you need 2 computers for 2 Kinects v2. Multiple Kinect v1 can be used on the same PC. Each one needs dedicated USB controller.

two computers

fucking microsoft.

>>13830360

Nah, Evolve was tasteful. You've got to show restraint and hit the right notes with these things.

>>13830354

>Is it worth going to windows 10, so long as I take the neccesary /g/ steps to unfucking it

I recently did it and i would say it's fine. Unfucking it is a hassle and it does take an afternoon to weed all the bullshit out but after you're done you wont have any real downsides. Win7 has had telemetry updates in the meantime so unless you waterproofed it the only advantage of Win7 is the familiarity of the old OS. Honestly Windows 10 even has some advantages like the better Task manager, antialiasing on the desktop and faster booting Also it's called /tech/

>>13830380

That's not a sexy monster. What I'm talking about are how to sexualize a monster without making it tasteless.

>>13830380

>>13830386

*is

fuck, im so tired my eurotrash self is coming out.

>>13830405

Different design means different walking animation and move sets, what may work for one design won't work for say, design 4,5,6 as they'll need there own custom skeleton and animations.

>>13830421

Ah, I understand. Sorry about that, then.

>>13830860

That looks really cool! How do you get the tilesets to look so non-tessellated? It looks almost hand-drawn!

>>13830987

It works by giving each individual unit of the mask a set of different instructions of what to draw. A piece of grass for example is three different sprites drawn on top of each other: A base dark brown with slightly random offset, the green and then one of 6 different toppers with slightly random offset. It then crushes the generated image into a single sprite to be used as the background. It's not really practical to use in runtime because it takes forever to read each pixel of the mask and draw to the sprite. I might save the instructions to a file rather than having it read the mask every time it tries to load. I could also cut even more corners by just saving the generated image to disk when I'm done making it and use that instead of this mess.

tl;dr it's not really tile based so it shouldn't be given too much credit. It's just a way to quickly shit out nice looking floors using random variation.

>>13824864

Buy a book. Look at this list:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/388242/the-definitive-c-book-guide-and-list

>>13831301

How do people learn programming from books? Do you just read it and make stuff as you read it, or you finish reading it and then you try stuff out?

>>13831322

Personally, I learned programming from a course so I don't know what learning programming from a book without prior knowledge is like, but I do know that once you know how to program, you can read a book that's your level and absorb the knowledge for afterwards - although it's good to have to book within arm's length while you are actually programming.

>>13831336

I've learned from making things and google searching tbh, books don't hold my attention at all

>>13830197

maybe you think visually. draw X,Y,Z axis, draw the Unity names for each direction. You are right, it is arbitrary. They could have picked any axis for the direction "names". Just start drawings diagrams and figures for your own reference for things like this. Draw out mathematical functions and the like over the domain you are interested in. Draw everything.

>>13831322

I learned C from K&R. Write C code along with the book. Work through each example. Work through very small projects "on the side" while reading. Like a random compound name generator or a tic-tac-toe text game for a "final project" in terms of complexity. Reading alone will not do it. To learn most people must: 1) hear & see the information (in your head, as you read, or attend a lecture), 2) write the information - so notes and/or diagrams that illustrate the concept, 3) implement the information - combine what you have learned in a unique way that isn't simply rewording or copy-paste what you were presented (project or "homework").

#2 is why taking notes on a laptop is not so useful, maybe a compete waste of time. Physically writing what you hear or writing down the key points & diagrams with paper and pen/pencil while you read or listen to a lecture is more work. apparently enough work for your brain to attach significance and attention to what you are doing and reinforce the information.

>>13831453

Isn't Y supposed to be the height vector?

>>13831372

>To learn most people must: 1) hear & see the information (in your head, as you read, or attend a lecture)

So watching a Jewtube video is more effective then reading a book?

>>13831456

For 2D yes. in 3D space it's the Z-axis

>>13831461

that's fucking confusing

>>13831463

What's really confusing is that it's the opposite for some software.

>>13831463

It's about math. 3D space is a perfect mathematical space, and by mathematical convention, X is to the right, Y is to the top, and Z is to the back. It's an extention of 2D math coordinate system with X to the right and Y to the top, Z must be orthogonal to both X and Y and it is selected as cross product of X to Y, hence specific direction. In 2D graphics Y points downward because electron beam displays would scan top to bottom, making Y coordinate axis inverted.

>>13831461

It's still height in OpenGL coordinates. Also in Vulkan the Y axis is inversed.

>>13831507

It doesn't matter, you can set your identity matrix to make any axis point in any direction.

>>13831608

I'm certainly not a normalfag but I got sick with how Galaxy would kick you out the level and then slooooowwllly get you back to the hub where you tally up stuff and then have to slowly go back the level you were just in.

Regarding your difficulty thing, do it like Odyssey does: Make it easy to beat the game, but to 100% it the player has to go through some real mega bitch levels, that way the player is choosing their own difficulty that way.

>>13831648

>Regarding your difficulty thing, do it like Odyssey does: Make it easy to beat the game, but to 100% it the player has to go through some real mega bitch levels, that way the player is choosing their own difficulty that way.

Sadly, at that point, neither side is really happy. People who are good at games will be bored for the entire first half, and people who are bad will be super upset that they can't beat all the levels.

>>13831608

If you're going to have a star system in a level why not use that for your difficulty curve? The first few stars of a level introduce the player to whatever new mechanic is in that level, the next few challenge them with it and then the last ones are ball bustingly hard. Then set the 'required' number to be about the middle. That levels casual players move on after they grow bored of a level. While advanced players linger on a level to test their understand of a mechanic in an in depth manner.

Also, wow, just found out about Tetradev's drama. Kinda feel bad for him cause his stuff seemed like it had potential. I hope he sorts his issues out and gets back to gamedev.

>>13831457

No, reading still absorbs the information. Personally I find myself easily distracted when watching a youtube video since my computer is in my hands. Ultimately, it's best to try a variety of learning tools, and go with what you honestly find the most helpful. For example, I've always found handwritten notes to help me remember things better than typed, so even though computerized notes are more convenient, I know I'll learn better if I write it out by hand.

>>13832590

I found that some people just don't play games enough to enjoy most of them. I think that's why difficulty settings are crucial. I remember as a kid I was bored with a game until I could progress, it wasn't until my early teens that I started cranking difficulty up to enjoy the game more.

Imagine if you never played games, or only occasionally. I nearly ruined Terraria for my girlfriend when I put it on Expert mode, I thought she could handle it but she just wanted to build her little house and not get assfucked by zombies in the night.

>>13832602

And that's why Mario makes it impossible to get stuck.

Can't get a star? That's fine, there's probably another 40 stars you can access and get at the same time. You don't need to collect everything to finish the game.

Difficulty settings are a giant failure of game design imo, there's so many options that don't completely break the flow of the game and make it a more memorable experience.

>>13832620

tbh I think there should be like two settings: "the way the dev wanted" and "for your mentally retarded kid"

>>13832663

Odyssey did it kind of like that where they have babby-mode

The gameplay is the same but there's no way to get lost or to die

Does anybody of you goys mind if I post a python script here? I am following a tutorial and well I am stuck with a bugged python script, its about a tic-tac-toe script and the bug is that when I enter a numbered choice it just asks for it instead of applying it. I am sorry if posted it on the wrong thread but I have no idea where else I should ask this question.

https://pastebin.com/XZhynuYU

>>13832389

> For example, I've always found handwritten notes to help me remember things better than typed

I have never done that way before, so far I just read a PDF file about python scripting and follow the instructions which is just writing out the code and then running it to see if it works. So if I want to write out those things do I just need to write the important parts of it or something? I would like to try that.

>>13832737

If a game is fun to control (ie. Mario), then difficulty really doesn't matter. The fun of the game doesn't come from beating the hardest courses, it comes from exploration and having really tight controls.

Champion's Road-like levels are fun once, maybe a few times, but you can't design a whole game around it. Even people that like the challenge will get tired of them.

Also, an experience player, will most likely play the game for longer, which you can exploit by having a healthy amount of post game content they can access that will test their abilities.

Difficulty right out of the gate just isn't fun, even the most experienced player will want some easier levels to get acclimated to how the game plays.

Honestly, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Sunshine and 64 did the difficulty curve perfectly, there's no reason to change that.

>Issue there is that those playing in babby mode still get the same rewards as those playing in normal mode.

I think you're missing the point of what makes Mario collectathons satisfying. It's not about the reward, it's about the gameplay you have while getting to that reward. What you're complaining about is that harder levels force you to play extremely well, but you have that option at pretty much any time during the base game itself.

Again, Odyssey is probably the most shining example of that.

Dunno that's how I see it, it's alright if you think it doesn't work. Although you should probably think of the amount of work you'll be putting onto yourself if you do decide to make major changes to either level structure and gameplay

>mods

mods are not games

you fucking hacks

>>13832846

What about total conversions?

Oh my god you glorious faggots I think I just managed to recreate bhopping in UE4. I just need to get some numbers right and add a no-friction frame and I'll post a video. Holy shit I'm so excited.

OK I have a question related to Unity legality.

So Unity is free to use and free to release games on, as long as you're not making money off of those games. My question is where does it legally fall if you say "hey, I'm releasing this game for free but if you think it was worth money, here's a donation button"? Do I need a subscription?

>>13833310

If I recall correctly, Unity is free as long as you haven't made more than $10,000 off your game. And since your game is so shitty that you will have to pay people to play it, I don't think you should worry about donation button because no one will ever press it anyway.

>>13833310

they include crowdfunding in their terms of service, so i'm assuming that would count. the limit is 100k for the personal version.

though you probably want to get plus anyway so you can get rid of the "MADE WITH UNITY™" shovelware stamp on startup.

>>13833326

>>13833355

It's 100k gross revenue (ie money collected before taxes and expenses).

https://store.unity.com/download?ref=personal

>>13833180

looks pretty good, what's the game gonna be about, looks like a horror game

>>13833180

Gave me a genuine chuckle.

>>13833310

I am not a lawyer this is not legal advice.

You cannot use Unity Free if you make $100,000 or more a year. If you make $100,000 or more a year you either have to stop using Unity or buy Unity Professional. Doesn't matter if the money was made from people buying your game. If McDonald's was to release a free game made using Unity they would have to pay for professional because they make more than $100,000 a year, even if that money was from real estate rather than the Unity game.

>>13833385

>Not making a shell company and using the free version, then publishing it as the parent company

>Not treating your corporation as an individual entity so it takes all the legal repercussions, then acting on behalf of said company

Godot 3.0 Alpha2 is out with Mono support.

https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-3-0-alpha-2

>>13833557

As big as possible. What could go wrong?

>>13833568

4k good enough?

>>13833441

>>13833432

I suppose I should post the actual link to the license

https://unity3d.com/legal/terms-of-service/software

>>13833572

Why not? I've always wanted my computer to become a space heater.

>>13833758

Spoil that shit, I was almost spooked

>>13833758

Damn he looks like he's about to chase me.

>>13824501

I'm not sure if it's appropriate to share such conversations. Especialy that

>except the guy with the shodan flag

both hits right in the feels (I never thought he cared much for me even in private conversations) and is definitely an example of stupid things people say when they are upset. It's unfair. A lot of people here STILL root for him...

Nevertheless you approached him calmly and professionally, not really dickish.

>>13832185

just like make game, my dude. If you can't get into it right now, perhaps returning to your old code and reviewing it will do the trick. I'm sure after all that time you do have a mind full of fresh ideas.

We missed you here, wouldn't you know. You can review the thread archives on the wili. People asked about you and your project. we were kinda worried

>>13832190

what can you do...I hope for the same. What really saddens me is that the fucking owlturd edit became the OP for cuckchan's /agdg/ and now even these hacks know of all the pointless drama.

It would be very hard for tetra to return without starting anew. Thank God he remains anonymous.

What saddens me also is that people keep posting his patreon, which is the only real way the more empathetic of us can help him with the whole mafia/debt thing and still there are only a few patrons.

>>13833761

>almost

you shit your pants, didn't you?

>>13833758

spooky/10

>>13830860

This is fucking amazing. Keep up the good work oh and can you share some details on what type of game will it be? I need info for the wiki

Oh and I hosted a LAN party this weekend and OF COURSE couldn't archive the previous thread. So if any of you wonderful souls have it saved, I'd appreciate you posting it on the wiki. looking for you, eeschaton I sent you a message on wikidot too

One more thing: the faggot trollboy over here using my webm to get (you)s on cuckchan was golden

>>13833987

haha

>>13833987

It's literally the same anon, you tell me if it's too similar

>>13831608

I think the responses most people have given you along the lines of "have one difficulty and make different stars easier or harder" is probably the best way to go. If you were dead-set on difficulty modes, don't do mission select; it's obnoxious and wastes your time doing nothing. Instead, do difficulty select, and display how many stars were collected on each difficulty.

>>13832737

>People who are good at platformers will be bored for the entire first half of the game, and people who are bad will be pissed that they can't experience the later levels.

I disagree with this assessment. Nintendo has made a business out of games with easy campaign and hard postgame content. Most people who buy the game aren't going to complete it, let alone 100% it, because they're filthy casuals. For people who aren't filthy casuals, there's challenge available.

>>13833941

>the fucking owlturd edit became the OP for cuckchan's /agdg/

Fucking crossposters I swear

>the whole mafia/debt thing

Wait, what? I saw he said he was poor, but mafia? For real?

>>13833997

It's higher resolution, has 4 splotches instead of 5, and uses a different palette

>>13832755

I'm not very familiar with python, but this line looks problematic to me:

while response not in (low, high):

After a quick search, it looks like you forgot the word 'range':

range(low, high)

>>13834022

That works for the most part, but remember the top side of the range is not inclusive:

>>> 5 in range(5, 8)
True
>>> 5 in range(2, 5)
False

You can also just use an ordinary comparison:

while not (low <= response <= high)

Python allows that kind of comparison operator chaining such that (x < y < z) means the same thing as (x < y and y < z).

>>13834059

>(x<y<z)

I avoid doing that shit even in C#. Eg,

> x = y = z + 10;

Sure, it's right associative, but I have to stop and think about what it's doing for a second. I don't like it. Though Python is different, but still.

>>13834017

It's a Yoshi egg man

>>13833987

I wonder what it smells like.

>>13834161

yes

I got my whole C++ / SDL game ported over to HTML5 with emscripten, that shit is basically magic: https://lyceum-allotments.github.io/series/

>>13834161

>So if I did this, would it be different enough?

Now it's a blue yoshi egg.

Adding irregular, large spots to an egg will immediately make people think of Yoshi. Go for stripes or regular polka-dots.

>>13834313

I want it to be a nod to a Yoshi egg, while at the same time calling it something different. Plus on Easter, have a few different "painted" varieties show up

>>13834313

>>13834322 (checked)

What about a colored egg with whit spots?

>>13834322 (checked)

If you want it to look like a Yoshi egg, than there's nothing to really worry about. Just don't call it a Yoshi egg.

>>13834405

But can you get them all into one room and hold a wall-hugging spider jamboree?

>>13834405

call it a smelly egg and you'll be fine

>wall-hugging spider that crosses water

How is this for a boss fight?

You enter a room full of ticking clocks, dimly lit with yellowish golden lights. The ticking of all of these clocks is somewhat loud. Pretty soon people start running into the room and attacking you. As you kill them eventually you realize the ticking is quieter, and some clocks have stopped ticking. The more people you kill, the more clocks stop. Soon only two clocks are still running, ticking out of phase. A man walks into the room wearing a getup that suggests he's not a regular grunt. The boss health-bar shows up and you know it's on.

If you die during the boss fight the game over screen has the sound of only one clock ticking, and when you kill the boss one clock begins slowing down just as it strikes the hour, and when the boss fight is completely over only one clock is left ticking.

If a clock is shot it will break apart and stun the person the clock is associated with Including you and the boss. However the clock will reassemble in an amount of time depending on how much damage was done and the person will recover from being stunned. The boss can slow down time and their clock recovers very, very fast from being damaged, but when the boss slows down time the sun lasts for a lot longer e.g. he can slow down time for either his clock or for himself, but not both. So when he slows down time for himself and is running around the level in a blur, you shoot the clock to stun him, then wail on him.

The rest of the boss fight would be pretty standard. Moves that deal with the player at close close, medium, and far ranges, but those are to be decided.

>>13834506

depends on the game play tbh

>>13834731

don't modify the array, just make a new one with the modified data :^)

>>13834745

Actually that's a good point - it doesn't matter if it's done inplace or if I have to allocate a new object or not. But I don't see a way I can just "do" it without copying it all

>>13834781

You could have four arrays within an array if you can do that, but I wouldn't recommend that.

>>13834781

If you need the array in the changed state you will have to copy at some point. If this action is done more often than the lookup you can just keep track of an index and either calculate the new place or do the shift once.

>>13834731

Are you using C++? Vectors have a rotate function.

>>13834794

Actually in C#, a one-dimensional array is optimized to be the fastest. A jagged array (that is, T[][] ) is much faster than a multidimensional array T[,] because of compiler optimization and oversight. Either way, I'd prefer to keep it flat if possible.

>>13834801

It'll only be done via user input from an editor or such, so committing the change(s) immediately shouldn't be a problem.

>>13834805

Sorry, C#. But I didn't know the technique was called Rotation. I can probably research a decent approach now, thanks.

>>13833947

>oh and can you share some details on what type of game will it be? I need info for the wiki

I would hold on putting this onto the wiki, I'm just messing about at the moment. I'm still loyal to my other game

>>13832590A

>new player will just run there and jump when needed, they'll take no risks and be safe.

that is more of a level design thing, and various games do that too, pretty much every DMC could be beaten by a resident evil character, that is why even just traveling the levels doing small jumps feels much better than ninja run in revengance.

>Difficulty settings are a giant failure of game design imo

Kingdom hearts (arpg) makes a compromise, first it makes you select a difficulty for the whole game, then lets you grind or stop earning experience at any point.

Then on the other side there is RE4/god Hand/left4dead that use adaptive difficulty

some examples of how others have handled it.

Last Remnant (rpg that gets harder every battle) lets you bring more enemies into battle to increase the complexity. or to battle them separately to increase the difficulty.

Valkyria chronicles (strategy-shooter combo) lets you advance slowly to make it easier (implemented poorly because the base game is already easy), then there is the pc version that had shooting rate tied to frame rate which made some missions nightmare hard, then some guy made a difficulty mod around everything being nightmare hard and its fucking awesome, the game went from rushing with scouts to the enemy base (ps3) to shocktrooper death squads / savescumming central (pc) to everything is useful and it is so fucking balanced (myVCmod.zip).

once i finish my Ikagura clone i will make a VC one.

>>13835576

just call garbage collection at the end of every frame :^)

>>13835595

I don't ever want to have to invoke it manually

>>13835465

And it runs on actual original Gameboy hardware? That's impressive.

>>13835576

Your solution is not to use shit languages.

>>13835704

>using managed languages

>not spending 3 weeks reimplementing a worse version of a basic library

>>13835713

>not spending 3 seconds to find better version of a basic library

>>13835576

>leaks

It's called a GC, there are no leaks! You're programming C#, that means you should forget about implementation details like this.

>>13835739

You also forget about high performance and other important stuff which requires manual memory management.

>not using LINQ for AI game logic

        var neighbors = bee.OrderBy(b => Vector3.Distance(b.m_position, m_position)).Skip(1);

        List<Vector4> newVel = new List<Vector4>();
        Vector4 vel = m_velocity;
        vel.w = 5f;
        newVel.Add(vel);
        foreach (var b in neighbors)
        {
            var dist = Vector3.Distance(b.m_position, m_position);
            if (dist < 1f)
            {
                //Move away from them
                Vector4 awayVector = (m_position - b.m_position).normalized;
                awayVector.w = 2f;
                newVel.Add(awayVector);
            }
            else if (dist > 4f && dist < 5f)
            {
                Vector4 towardsVector = (b.m_position - m_position).normalized;
                towardsVector.w = 1f;
                newVel.Add(towardsVector);
            }
        }

        foreach (var o in obstacles)
        {
            float dist = Vector3.Distance(o, m_position);
            if (dist <= o.w)
            {
                Vector4 awayVector = (m_position - (Vector3)o).normalized;
                awayVector.w = 2f;
                newVel.Add(awayVector);
            }
        }

>program in C

>don't have to worry about performance because I'm a C programmer

>what the fugg why is this running at 12 fps

>program in C#

>optimize the fuck out of your code

>at the scale you want it, it still runs at 12 fps

>because you can't optimize for cache, you're shit out of luck

>decide to make a game

>optimize the shit out of it so everything runs at 120 fps on toasters

>two years pass

>people ask me where my game is

>"game?"

>decide to make a game

>optimize the shit out of it so everything runs at 120 fps on toasters

>two years pass

>people ask me where my game is

>"game?"

>two years pass

>everyone uses 144fps

>120fps is the new 30fps

>commit suicide before 240fps becomes standard

>decide to make a game

>commit suicide

>>13835862

I also have a Thinkpad T420

hooked up to a mouse and keyboard and ext display

>>13835631

Thanks, yes, it runs on actual gameboy hardware. It's not that impressive though, I used ZGB which takes care of a lot of stuff. If I was writing it in assembly or wrote my own libraries I'd feel more impressed with myself but I'm shit at low level coding so I can only manage C. Standing on the shoulders of giants and whatnot.

https://github.com/Zal0/ZGB

>>13835920

Gamemaker doesn't even target windows xp anymore, buddy

>>13835937

>Gamemaker doesn't even target windows xp anymore, buddy

This is why I don't want to graduate from XNA/FNA, gotta let those nips play your games too

>>13835948

There was a period where gamemaker supported xp but you could check a box in the menu to disable xp support. For some reason.

>>13835995

Lookin good.

do you still need music?

Oh shit I think I just understood something I struggled with months ago.

So a RenderCube. Apparently it's used in reflection mapping? I never really understood how, but I did get that it held 6 textures but beyond that I was confused.

So I assume that it works by taking the midpoint of the cube, and for each face, projecting a view outwards with a length of N. Then, the face of the cube because the near clipping plane and the projected area at distance N becomes the far clipping plane, basically constructing a frustum. Then, it's just a matter of drawing the scene 6 times in various places, thus creating a map at that point you can use for effects.

Is that about right?

>>13836325

>not

>in

>range

I didn't know you could make games using sql

>>13836487

Wait until you see what C#'s LINQ can do

>>13836490

I programmed some AI steering/avoidance behaviors using only LINQ. I tell myself I'll rewrite it when I have time

>>13835995

The idea is that it will allow you to simply turn off all computations that are too much until it is at a very basic graphical state, in which it can no longer be simplified.

The level geometry will not be more intensive than the Source engine, and will probably be slightly simpler than the kind of level geometry found in Source. So, what's left with all the computational power is to add in fancy shadows and normal maps and other extra stuff. The engine is actually going to be optimized for older computers by design, so modern computers will not run it as fast as they could. However, modern graphics cards are so fast, that this is negligible.

Lighting can be a lot of things, I plan on offering several lighting models that will be more and more complex. Basically from fullbright, to vertex lighting, to light maps, to basic stencil shadows, to advanced stencil shadows. I'm still unsure what it will look like in the end.

>>13836501

How is it? I've never used it extensively (no pun intended). I prefer to just write my collection-handling code "correctly" the first time

>>13836514

It does what I want, it just happens to scatter garbage everywhere as it does it. I posted most of it over here. >>13835761

>>13836503

>I'm still unsure what it will look like in the end

Quake 2 with stencil shadows and mouse collectibles.

>>13836518

Barely. Assuming you maintain a SortedList or SortedDictionary based on distance or what have you, you wouldn't even need to touch LINQ. Not that that's a bad thing, it just barely relies on it

>>13836530

possibly, I don't like how washed out quake 2 looks and I do plan on having a higher contrast than quake 2, as well as higher polycounts on the models. I want it to look closer to quake 3, but with more shadows so that I can make my fast computer do something with all of its extra power.

>>13836540

Sounds like time and effort that could be spent making progress

>>13836503

>The idea is that it will allow you to simply turn off all computations that are too much until it is at a very basic graphical state, in which it can no longer be simplified.

Would this be dynamically adjusted (e.g. framerate below 30 Hz, kill AA, see how much the framerate improves)? Or are these just menu options?

>>13836579

Right now command line options, in the future menu options. I can't really see myself programming in a whole dynamic graphics system to ensure a framerate, just because it's a very non-trivial thing to do and I already have a lot of other non-trivial things to do. It's feature creep and i'm truly not skilled enough at all to even make it. The only people who pulled it off in a modern engine AFAIK is Bungie with Halo 5, and that's on something that's exclusive to one hardware configuration, which means you can reliably benchmark how fast the hardware is going to be, unlike on PC. Video related is a pretty in depth explanation about how they managed to do it.

>>13836599

I think Path of Exile dynamically downsizes the texture LoD it uses or sets the target output size REALLY small or some kind of hack like that. I've had it run at 24 fps stable on a potato even when it gets busy

>>13836599

>dynamic resolution to keep 60fps

Wasn't RAGE/id Tech 5 supposed to do that? Also rendering particles effects at a lower resolution seems like a pretty great performance trick.

Shieet, since I completely decoupled from the XNA content project shit, I don't have a way to render text to the screen.

I mean, I planned this, but I need to implement my own sprite-based stuff sooner than I thought I would

>>13836601

>>13836658

Sure, other games have done it, it's just that I don't have the same kinds of resources or work time that those studios have. Its just a matter of keeping the amount of features small enough where finishing the project is realistic. Which, it's really already got too many features to begin with.

>>13836599

>The only people who pulled it off in a modern engine AFAIK is Bungie with Halo 5

Titanfall 2 also has it, and that is Source engine. The system i would come up with wouldn't really be very complicated at all:

Assuming you have a "canvas" texture on which you render everything you have, then render that texture to the screen, which is how post processing pipelines and therefore every modern engine works.

>make 3-4 additional versions of the canvas with decreasingly high resolutions (1440p, 1080p, 900p, 720p for example)

>check every n frames for the last frametime average

>if it is below the required frametime, drop to the lower mode by setting the pointer to the active canvas to the respective lower version

>if it is above, increase the mode again

Then in the rendering loop, you don't have to care about it at all

Texture* activeCanvas;

void renderGame() {
    activeCanvas->clear();

    checkForCanvasModeSwitch();

    for (auto entity : entites) {
        activeCanvas->draw(entity);
    }

    display->draw(activeCanvas);
}

>>13837123

It's true that, I really only remembered that video from when I watched it in 2015, so I thought it had much more than dynamic resolution scaling. That's why I was being inaccurate, I didn't rewatch the whole video.

There are definitely ways to do what you're thinking of, it's just that right now I don't have any reason to implement it. I'm still working on the rendering engine, so I don't yet have anything that can challenge the renderer in such a way. Also, it's absolutely not easy or simple to add in Vulkan, so if I work on it, it's essentially a week of work for a pretty auxiliary feature, when I need to be working on essential features. Sure, I could change my graphics engine to use render-to-texture, but it's just feature creep and a distraction right now.

I do want to add in something like this, and if I had infinite time, I would. I might add it to this project AFTER the most important things are finished.

>>13837208

And, to clarify on the "week of work", its mostly Vulkan. I'm learning a lot, but Vulkan is an API that I don't have a good enough understanding of yet.

>>13837211

And, maybe not literally a week, but that's the worst case scenario. I'll stop replying to myself and go to bed.

>>13833548

>He talks to a girl he met online via his phone and they've been talking for years. She invites him to see her, and he accepts.

>He goes, enters the apartment complex where she's supposed to be, and it turns out she's not real and the complex is actually evil or it's another dimension or something I haven't quite figured that out yet. Either way, now there's shit trying to eat him and he wants to escape from the complex.

This actually happened to me.

How do I make my particles not shit

>>13833548

But then WHO WAS PHONE?