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The public enemy of the world #1

It is the main hashtag responsible for…

☑ Forcing a historian to prioritize shitposts over reporting their dad's corpse

☑ Vandilizing private property with "Strategic Designation #2"

☑ Causing chaos in Hollywood with an acid rainstorm

☑ Ruined the very concept of anime for everyone

☑ Firing a promising staff member from Platinum Games

☑ Making Colin Moriarty say a misogynistic joke and firing him

☑ Giving a white Iranian a date with DMCAstiny

☑ Creating bait that surpassed Metal Benis

☑ Stole Bioware's checkbook

☑ Making YouTube proud to support the [ERROR: Login to view this content] community

☑ Became Linkedredchannitin

☑ Adorning unrelated posts with images of anime boobs

☑ Overwrote reality with a Tropico save-file

☑ Teaching the Russians how it's done

☑ Spent 4 days legally dead for tax reasons

☑ Manipulated reviews to make Yooka-Laylee look as 64-bit as possible

☑ Revealed international culinary secrets

☑ Convinced an anon into becoming a trap

☑ Funded by Russia to cause chaos in the USA

☑ Plotting to invade and take over the fashion world with a new puppet as mascot

☑ Successfully summoned the memeteor, then promptly dispelled it because it wasn't exciting enough

☑ Moved gaming acceptance back decades in the public consciousness

☑ Got seened in an Oakland drive-by

☑ Has trademarked "hikikomori ginger girls with names based on imageboards"

☑ Employed Russia's help in hacking the ESRB

☑ Bestowed upon a penguin a penguin-waifu

☑ Caught a glimpse of the evil that is the Korean Education system

☑ Likes their iced cream 'pure aryan'

☑ Hacked a character into ARMS, then leaked it

☑ Having a girl fetish

☑ Killed people at an Ariana Grande concert with a bomb

☑ Discriminating fantasy from reality

☑ Undoing all the hard work into promoting Far Cry 5

☑ Turned Ren Hoek into a terrorist

☑ Created Gamergate America

☑ Became starmen

☑ Brought misogyny into E3

☑ Turned Mario Mexican

☑ Prevented beloved VAs from reprising their popular roles

☑ Brought back unpopular video games like Metroid

☑ Blowing everything up

<☑ Exploring new frontiers

☑ Used their playbook to make CNN's blackmail look bad

☑ Ruining the careers of J2E translators by supporting TD

☑ Encouraging Japanese xenophobia

☑ Fanning the flames of distrust and hatred for a unified world government

☑ Wanted for high crimes on Gallifrey

☑ Fought in the fetish wars

☑ Made the kickstarter box set for Mighty No.9 "better than nothing"

☑ Tempted Eve and initiated the fall of humanity

☑ Got a two-decade old vaporware game finished and released through sheer buying potential

☑ Harassing Google employees in the name of diversity

☑ The sexist, racist anti-diversity Google Manifesto

☑ Weaponized penises

☑ Shot down a police helicopter over Charlotteville

☑ Was a Russian bot army test run.

☑ Forcing Angela Merkel to play racist games at GamesCom

☑ Overcriticizing Mass Effect: Andromeda

☑ Organised nazi yoga lessons

☑ Fetishized Skill

✅ Hacked Equifax database to doxx women on a *massive* scale

☑ Made a veteran games journalist look dumber than a pigeon

☑ Sexualized the Mombot

☑ Mourning a penguin

☑ Destroyed Neogaf

☑ Outed the Neogaf owner as a rapist

☑ Funding catgirl research

☑ Blocked the Chinese Overwatch team from entering America

>>13689793

You can't just link the article and not the video itself.

>>13689833 ☑'d

It has to do with Germany's law against alternate history fiction. Why AH is banned is beyond me.

>>13689833

It's beautiful, in a way. If germany ever produces another hitler, they could very well not know it because of their extreme censorship laws put in place to prevent just such a thing from occurring.

>>13689842

Boy, when I said that Europe is fucked up politically earlier today, I had no idea just how right I was.

>>13689808

Looks like Soros on the right

>>13689867

>$80 for a game

That's what it costs in Leafville right now anyway.

>>13689599

CTP link in the OP doesn't work. Use the link from the wiki current OP:

https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

>>13689897

I like how our money looks. If only it had actual value. It's gotten to where Steam is actually a good deal in Canada because most publishers only mark the games up 10% over US prices.

>>13689880

I think you mean 91$

>>13689889

Okay, thanks for catching it.

note for next baker please change broken link

• Beware of COINTELPRO tactics: The Gentleperson's Guide to Forum Spies - https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.html

to fixed up link below

• Beware of COINTELPRO tactics: The Gentleperson's Guide to Forum Spies - https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

>>13689934

Yep. There was a big stink over it recently. The official story is that the Canada Revenue Agency had the idea and Trudeau told them to back off. But the more likely story is that Trudeau realized "oh shit the election is coming up and we're out of gold to sell" and is trying to find money anywhere he can. Other great Trudeau administration moments:

>paid out $10 million to a convicted terrorist because he was mistreated by another country

>refused to fight the lawsuit and just settled because "it would cost more"

>spent 12 times the cost of a dental surgery in legal fees to avoid paying the dental surgery (for a young native girl)

>just recently paid out $10 million EACH to three more convicted terrorists who were mistreated in other countries

BRAVO JUSTIN

>>13689939

That's EB though. They've added $10 to the price of a new game for as long as I can remember. They're just kikes.

>>13689952

I really hope you guys throw that piece of shit out of office.

>>13689956

Sorry, I'm busy playing the Fire Emblem 3 remake. I'm only really looking up to post, not opening files.

>>13689960

He's probably out. A lot of people are pissed at him for:

>various anti free speech laws

>constant feminism/islam talk

>being a pussy ass bitch and apologizing for 100-year old "crimes" the country supposedly committed

>crashing the economy even harder

>still not legalizing pot like he said he would

>letting the country burn TWICE

His main support bases will be the left, and Quebec. But..

>the left has a new superstar in Jagmeet Singh, of the NDP (alternative left party, basically turbopussies)

>he'll probably split their vote HARD because he's a racial minority and tries to be young and hip like the turd

>the turd has also managed to piss off Quebec by implying he'll overrule their new law (which is a "facial covering ban" basically meant as a middle finger to muslims)

Quebec will abandon him faster than you can say poutine if he tries to tread on them. Nothing pisses off Quebec like the federal government trying to tell them what to do. And they are a HUGE demographic.

>>13689962

It's been that way at least since Gamestop bought them out. It's why I don't shop there. I'll go to wal-mart or a local place I know or order online or pirate. Mostly pirating, lately. EB basically just sells "geek merch" now anyway. My local one is a whole back wall of funkos, a bunch of figures and minecraft shit and generic "geek" (game of thrones, walking dead, rick and morty) toys and mugs and shit all over the place. And it's all cheaply made. I almost bought an E-tank mug until I saw all the warnings and such on it. I like Mega Man but not enough to hand wash a mug every time I want to use it. I have a dishwasher for a reason.

>>13689977

>$14-15 minimum wage

I wish. It's still about $11 here in Ontario. Which is great because my electric bill is steadily climbing up because of the libs at the provincial level and their retarded solar panel incentive.

>hey let's buy excess electricity back from solar panel owners at triple the cost

>there's no way people who are already rich will abuse this and bankrupt the fucking province while the poor people it's supposed to help are fucked because they can't afford a fucking solar panel in the first place

>>13689982

It depends on where you work I live in Toronto and a few places like my work raised it to 14 already.

>>13689987

Yeah but the provincial minimum is still $11 something. They don't set minimum wage on a town by town basis.

>>13689996

Ah

>>13689977

The government in NZ has decided to raise the minimum wage from 15.75 to 20, like somehow this is going to combat poverty. How the fuck do lefties not have someone to tell them their fucking ideas are retarded.

>>13690014

>How the fuck do lefties not have someone to tell them their fucking ideas are retarded.

People tell them alright - they just don't listen.

>>13690014

If you tell them their ideas are retarded they say "Hey, retarded is an ableist slur."

>>13690028

>everyone should be happy all the time and never suffer

<that's not possible

>wow look at this anti-happiness pro-suffering fascist

>>13690045

Wait what? I thought they were dirt poor how the hell did that happen

>>13690014

Was just about to post this.

>every job that generates less than 20 bucks and hour for the employer is gone

>every product that uses minimum wage workers at any point in the chain increases in price

>cost of living increases accordingly

>20/hr now not a livable wage

>all of those jobs earning 20/hr today that are comfortable wages will be shit wages

>people laid off will all suddenly be applying for benefits

>labour govt will probably say the increase in beneficiaries means benefits work to get people out of poverty or some shit

>lol and we'd better raise taxes to keep up with the demand for handouts

>big businesses get scared off so even more people get laid off

Winnie had to chose between the country being sold to china or economic death. Better buckle up because holy shit man things are going down hill from here on out.

>>13689923

They voted for him to just get Harper out. Cause honestly, Harper was going mad with power. I would not be surprise in the least if the next election completely annihilates Trudeau out of office.

anyone got any caps on the berenstein/stain universe/timeline theories?

>>13690057

The way I see it, every job will pretty much now be "earning" 4 - 5 dollars more, so like 20 an hour now will earn 24, because business will have to increase pay to attract the workers with the skills for those jobs, but relatively everyone will be earning the same goddamn wage as it is now because everything costs more in order to pay the wages.

The only net change that I see coming from this, is that we're less competitive on the world stage because now our exports also cost more. It's just so fucking retarded.

>>13690089

Canada is fucked regardless of who gets in.

>>13690089

Canada already partially belongs to China. Got to a bank machine. used to just be English and french. Now its English french and ching chong

>>13690080

>he thinks every job is getting a pay rise

hahahaha

wew

kill me

the nz dollar is already over valued so a bit of inflation (if being one of the more retarded ways of lowering the value) would help exporters a bit but this is definitely not the way to do it.

>>13690101

I dunno man, there's no way they're going to be able to keep workers on at the same pay they are now if they're skilled workers that need to get payed more than minimum wage, otherwise everyone is going to fuck off and work at McDonald's.

>>13690099

Vancouver?

>>13690111

The banks in the prairies have ching chong options and completely chinese signs as well

>>13689867

The thing that Mombot doesn't understand it that Publishers can cut the development cost and instead focus on making a better game directed at a targeted audience with less sales and still be very profitable. In fact higher development cost are part of the reason why Publishers target larger "more inclusive" audiences and dumb down the game to the lowest common denominator. The predatory practices of Micro-transactions and always online is not justified even when you take into account inflation. The only thing this argument refutes is the spoiled economically illiterate leftist complaining about the current price-points of most modern titles (I should know, I was the guy who made the edit of image on the right when I was still a libertarian).

>>13688920

>Seven articles written as a set on the death of games journalism in 2015 over the course of six weeks

Wew.

>>13689442

Well, it doesn't say "all", so I assume it's a top ten out of the many they have destroyed.

>>13689117

><Double-posting

Stop this.

>>13690108

It won't be the full amount, I can guarantee you that. The biggest problem will be the time between the minimum wage increase and the market settling. As businesses figure out how much every product is going up in price and how many workers they need to sack to stay afloat they won't be able to make any judgments on how much to pay their skilled workers. Everyone below the 20 will get bumped to 20 and everyone else will get maybe a little bump but likely nothing until they know what's going on.

>>13689867

never-mind I see the full context now. That said, Super Mario Bro. adjusted for inflation would be $140.37. Would Mombot pay $140 for a game?

>>13690128

><Stop this><

<>I agree<>

:^)

>>13690167

Since when was there a slip n slide ban? I had one like 10 years ago

>>13690172

You can still buy them, but it's the pussy version with length restrictions and cushioned ends. You can't buy the older longer version that was just a plastic mat.

>>13690180

Your options are; More Trudeau, Neocons made of leaves, the "we're totally not the communist party guys!" party, Quebec and the lmao dude weed party

They're all complete trash but at least with the libertarian party we'd get guns and lawn darts to play with as the country burns as opposed to no guns and lawn darts as the country continues to burn.

Can't wait for the Great Northern Wall to be built in his second term

>>13689619

>Infini 2015 720p BluRay x264 YIFY360p

>720p

>Settings

>Quality

>Max 360p

JeJ. I'll find it somewhere else.

>>13690304

meant for >>13689632

>>13690237

Are you sure you want that? You'd end up paying for it and all the illegals trying to flee from trump's deportation task force won't flee to canada anymore. They'd just start hiding like rats

>>13689842

It's about something something nazi apologism something.

Germans have been shamed so hard they can't even aknowledge anything nazi.

>>13689867

Found this in the replies.

>>13690538

That nigger is retarded because he just assumes development cost have not increased because in his research he could not find any reliable reports or actual figures. He tables the R&D cost until later, but then just assert development is cheaper without any evidence to support this assumption. Its reported that a typical open world action game from Ubisoft can require between 400 and 600 people on the development team. Compare that to the 10 developers of Super Mario Bros. or 5 Guys who created Doom. Just look at how big the team was form NuDoom. He makes some good general points and much of it I agree with but they don't refute the point of comparing cost vs inflation.

>>13690538

The original argument was never intended to justify DLC & Microtransactions, nor was it to suggest the industry was not profitable, which would be absurd considering the industry is bigger than Hollywood. In fact I was arguing at the time that games should cut the graphics design departments, marketing departments, production budgets and focus on smaller middle market games. Larger budgets means a necessity for more sales, more sales means they are forced to make the game more "consumer friendly" for a large demographic, which leads to water down derivative gaming experiences.

It was more a devils advocate rationalization from a business perspective as to why a company would be motivated to sell additional content assuming they intend to have similar profit margins and that the cost of r&d is undoubtedly more expensive. The cost of research and development claim can be supported without actual financial figures to support the claim by just looking at the size of development teams. If larger development teams is not inherently more expensive then this assumes larger development teams are being payed less but I doubt that is the case so it is safe to presume its more expensive. I do not disagree with anything you state in this video, in fact it only sheds more light as to the direction the industry is trending. In fact GTA Online is a perfect example of how they have essentially cut "research and development" all together. Great video but it does not address the core assumption of the argument that R&D has become more expensive to produce new games. The it's "Too expensive" is a bit unwarranted and reductionist. If their are people using derivatives of my original argument to defend blatant "corporate greed" then they did not understand the trust of the core argument.

Interesting. I don't ever recall hearing that specific argument before and I even recall that I thought it very interesting that IGN picked up on the Idea when they published "The Real Cost of Gaming: Inflation, Time, and Purchasing Power" not long after I had initially shared it. The variation I presented initially did take into account for inflation and the presumption that R&D cost where infrared based on the growth of the average team size and scope of modern games compared to Nintendo product form the 80's.

Even a middle market game like Dark Souls had a team of 29 people where as a game like Super Mario Brother had a team of 10 people (which was large for the time). IIRC I was comparing the price of Dark Souls with DLC to Super Mario Bros. which was a modest price $75 compared to what would be $116.98 when adjusted for CPI. That and I also have a background in 3D animation and My brother is a C++ programmer, therefore I believe it's not too arrogant to say know a bit about what goes into making a video game and that its much more time intensive to build a modern AAA game then it was to produce something in the 90's. That is not even taking into account many AAA's build their own engines as apposed to licensing one. There is also the fact that we do know Crash Bandicoot cost $US1.7 million in 1996 where as Watch Dogs in 2014 cost $US68 million as well as other example. The trend seems to point toward higher production cost. I don't think its far fetch to assume R&D has bloated.

This assumption that the budget for production has shrunk does not logically fallow because you are presuming R&D cost has not changed. It is just as probable that the push for digital only was to compensate for the rising overhead of development to assume its a net benefit is wishful thinking. Also if the overhead to produce games is lowered then the exorbitant numbers of units sold that publishers demand would not nearly be as high. The lower the gross margin the less units need to be sold for a return. The push for more accessibility and a broader audience is likely in response to these higher production cost. You can see the same thing in the Move industry, as production cost skyrocket, movies are dumbed down to reach foreign markets. Take for example the Golden Compass which was a flop but grossed $302.1 million internationally. Another example in favor of growing R&D budgets is how Tomb Raider 2013 was considered a flop despite selling over 7 million copies. The fact that your video completely ignores research and development is just a bit incredulous when there is ample evidence to the contrary even if we don't have hard numbers.

The notion that the industry has continued to be profitable is to be taken for granted. If is was not as profitable as in the past you would likely see company's turn to other markets, like maybe pachinko machines, but that would clearly never happen. That said this line of reasoning was never meant to justify predatory practices, it merely was an alternative hypothesis to the often childish far left attitudes of pretentious sensationalist "consumer advocates" with no understanding of basic economics.

>>13690642

interesting. I don't ever recall hearing that specific argument before and I even recall that I thought it very interesting that IGN picked up on the Idea when they published "The Real Cost of Gaming: Inflation, Time, and Purchasing Power" not long after I had initially shared it

^Copy pasta from the comment section of the video in question.

>>13690409

Germany has a law against alternative history, hell, you can't even buy mein kampf without a special permission from the state that says you will use it in a "scientific" or "historian" way.

The good thing about german autism is that you know exactly what you are not allowed to say.

Other european countries work on a "case by case" basis.

>>13690650

>issue that is solved with micro-transactions

anon that is a strawman of the position. Nobody should be trying to justify micro-transactions. I even said as much here >>13690122 . Also, many AAA games do not use prefabricated game engines. It is more often middle market games that resort to Game Engines. For example Assassin Creed has Anvil, MGSV has the Fox Engine, FFXV built the Luminous Studio graphics engine. The bloat of modern games is an issue. I would prefer smaller budget titles with a focus on more of a niche market but instead the industry took the Hollywood model.

>>13690686

The majority of AAA games use Unreal or Unity. the games you listed were the exceptions to the rule if anything. Only the absolute top-tier studios develop engines in-house because they have less to lose spending more money on programming for flexibility.

>>13690650

in other words I would prefer if more game developers fallowed a Nintendo philosophy.

 Game play > Story > Graphics > Everything else

>>13690694

>The majority of AAA games use Unreal or Unity.

No AAA game used Unity. And very few use Unreal. You are thinking of middle market games. Tons of middle market game use Unreal 4 & cheep indieshitz use Unity.

>>13690624

>Its reported that a typical open world action game from Ubisoft can require between 400 and 600 people on the development team. Compare that to the 10 developers of Super Mario Bros.

I don't think he was making the point that development costs of individual games are falling. They're making fewer games, so they're spending more on these titles individually, but not necessarily more overall since fewer games are being made. Also, one must keep in mind that he's not reaching back to the time of Super Mario Bros. He's only describing a trend over the last 7 years, not the last few decades.

>>13690642

>The original argument was never intended to justify DLC & Microtransactions

>It was more a devils advocate rationalization

This assumes the best of the person arguing this and that they're not just some cock-gobbling fanboy that would come up with any argument to justify the actions of their favorite company regardless of those actions. I think the people making this arguement come from both groups.

Most of these paragraphs seem to be hinging on comparisons to much older games even though the video is purely about trend in the last 7 years.

>>13690709

>They're making fewer games

that is because its less risk and that is because of the inflated cost of development. The fact that is less investment overall is immaterial because the argument says nothing about how much profit the industry is making. It assumed the industry is very profitable. However its also no a charity, there is no intensive to cut into their own profit margins.

>>13690709

>this assumes the best of the person arguing

I was the autist who first authored the argument back in 2013. Mombot is circulating propaganda I created

>Most of these paragraphs seem to be hinging on comparisons to much older games even though the video is purely about trend in the last 7 years.

yes, and look at Mombots post in question. She is comparing modern prices to games produced in the 1990's. $141 for KI, $127 for DKC2 ect. compared to something like COD WWII which will run you approximately $100 with season pass. The only point of the argument is to say the price of games is not inflating as some hysterical leftist would like you to think. Look I am not a buyfag, I don't care what people do with there money but its a bit more nuance then always resorting to "muh ebil capitalism".

>>13690743

I guess I mean to say there is more risk in the investment because it larger budget. But less risk in producing less games if they can assure the ones they do produce will be profitable.

>>13690743

>Replying to the same post twice

>yes, and look at Mombots post in question

Oh. I thought we were talking purely about video. I just embedded it as it seemed like a fairly good arguement against microtransactions and happened to find it in the replies to Mombot.

>>13690757

>Replying to the same post twice

It was a clarification to a poorly worded statement

>I thought we were talking purely about video

I was, the video is a strawman. the dude is an ignorant leftist retard trying to justify his position. The strawman is that the argument in question is a justification for microtransactions as apposed to just point out the fact that historically people have payed more for video games.

>>13690538

>gradual increase in R&D costs year by year

>massive reduction of games released every year

>Somehow this supports the claim that games aren't getting more expensive to make.

This nigger is retarded. The data he presents invalidates his own core argument. Games are more expensive to make just by correlating both data, R&D is increasing little by little while the number of games released had a massive reduction which means significantly more money is being spent in the development of a single game than 10 years ago.

That isn't to say some of his points aren't decent. All this shift in the market towards games-as-service (codeword for this microtransaction hell) is just a way of maximizing profits and reducing volatility. Though it remains to be seen if a market saturated by games-as-service products is actually sustainable.

>>13690757

in other words if you think that video is smart or well researched then you are objectively retarded. :^)

>>13690769

>significantly more money is being spent in the development of a single game than 10 years ago.

>>13690709

>I don't think he was making the point that development costs of individual games are falling. They're making fewer games, so they're spending more on these titles individually, but not necessarily more overall since fewer games are being made.

>>13690766

>The strawman is that the argument in question is a justification for microtransactions

Except retarded fanboys have used the argument in question as justification for microtransactions for some time.

Hey guys, how's Brian doing?

>>13690787

How long has it been now?

>>13690793

Its about time, I guess

>>13689599

What the fuck? I thought Revenge of Shinobi was Shinobi 2.

Good evening.

We're bigger than ever. Stronger than ever. We're Roppong/v/ 3k.

>>13690624

I don't like the nuDoom choice of music.

They should have just gone for metal instead.

>>13689848

Germany actually has a satirical comedy about literally Hitler coming back and taking power in modern Germany. It's called "Look Whose Back"

>>13691180

Isn't that an unintentional redpill?

I have only seen the scene where he talks about why racemixing in bad.

>>13690014

>People say we should raise minimum wage to 16 dollars an hour

>McDonald's CEO says "Do not do this. We will just fire all our employees and automate our stores."

>"Don't listen to him, he's just an evil CEO!"

Yeah man, I have no idea how no one has even told a leftist to fuck off.

>>13691216

It's redpill-ish. It's mostly about how people don't care if someone is literally Hitler, they just want someone who says they can fix their problems and give them someone else to blame.

>>13689952

>tfw live in Canada

What do?

>>13689923

Blame the Maritime, Quebec tried to warn you but you didn't listen.

>>13691234

>>13690014

what exactly is the ergonomic solution to automation though? will the poor just have to revert to agrarianism and start treating money like some kind of extravagance? are we returning to feudalism but with a few rich people going from penthouse to penthouse in their flying cars?

>>13691234

All the McDonalds around me went from 4 cashiers to 1 cashier and 3 computers

>>13691269

I would think in 60 or so years, we'd legitimately have to have a sort-of communism. Shit will eventually get so automated that most jobs aren't needed. I would guess that once that's the case, there will be a basic government income for all citizens to live decent, but kind of shitty lives. But People willing to actually do shit like make vidya, or become musicians, would be able to make themselves richer by actually providing something that people will pay for.

>>13691220

We wuz Shakespeare n shiiet!

>>13691269

>>13691302

I think it will even itself out somehow. If all the companies that can automate themselves do so, there will be so many people out of work that the companies that have automated themselves will lose money because there's no one left to buy their shit.

>>13691302

>basic government income for all citizens to live decent

Probably in a perfect world something like that would happen. It's probably also my cynicism talking.

I also think that, when it comes to food and stuff like that, people will choose the bread made by humans and not an automated machine.

It would also not surprise me if the human made food is more expensive than the machine made.

>>13691302

>make vidya or become musicians

who would buy the games or songs? nobody is making any money anymore except for those rich enough to be able to afford the machines that make all the things. there will probably also be machines that keep the other machines maintained so you wouldn't even need repairmen. there will be machines that mine materials, machines that recycle materials and machines that automatically defend against unruly humans who want to destroy the machines so that they can have jobs again. if a job can be done, it can be done by a robot and if there's money to be made, someone will be selfish enough to make a machine to make that money. right up until he builds a machine that replaces him, himself.

>>13691342

eventually, people won't be able to afford the more expensive human-made bread. because their job will have been taken by a robot.

you don't seem very cynical to me.

>>13691269

>revert to agrarianism in an age where death taxes are not only a thing, but are great enough to ensure that only corporate entities can be farmers

>>13691361

>nobody is making any money anymore except for those rich enough to be able to afford the machines that make all the things.

But these guys can't make money if nobody buys their stuff. The system wouldn't work. You'd just have a society where people starve to death while robots make food that nobody buys while the guy who owns the robots slowly loses all his money on electricity bill.

>>13691396

that's why i said agrarianism (that might not be the correct word)

the poor people will just have to go find some cheap land and farm their own food. they wouldn't be able to sell any of it because they would be competing with the massive corporations that have cheap machines produce the same food, only more efficiently. everyone will just have to start fending for themselves while the corporations more or less move on to buying and selling raw materials to and from other corporations. that's pretty much what's already happening right now.

>>13689619

very good

>>13691269

The solution to people losing jobs to automation isn't to put even more people out of work. It's like throwing fuel to the fire because "wet things extinguish fires, right?. If someone can't live on a certain wage then they aren't going to be doing the job for very long, having a minimum wage to ensure that people can survive is a redundant and counter-productive. As an example, if you tell a hobo that you will pay him $5 a day to work for you 10 hours of labor-intensive work daily, he will tell you to eat shit and die because he knows he can earn more through other means. However, if the hobo would be fine if you paid him $20 per day but the minimum wage law stated that you can only pay someone $50 per day then it would be illegal for him to work. In other words, you are punishing someone for wanting to work because apparently the solution to having people that are suffering from starvation is to help them die from it.

>BLUE REFLECTION’s Model Viewer Possibly Censored For The West

http://operationrainfall.com/2017/10/28/blue-reflections-model-censored-west/

http://archive.is/IJO4A

>>13691489

abolishing the minimum wage just means you're going to push more people onto welfare because it pays more than employers would be willing to pay their employees. the minimum wage is, or at least should be, the lower limit of what a person needs to simply survive. abolishing the minimum wage just means that some people will get their wages cut to the level that their employer deems the job to be worth, meaning the employee will be less equipped to survive. granted some more jobs will be created, but at less than the minimum wage, no doubt in many cases far less than the minimum wage; un-livably low. but that hobo will take that un-livable wage because it will at least stave off death for a while longer than no wage at all.

this is all on top of the fact that automation is inevitable, it will take jobs until eventually a minimum wage will be moot because no one will be hiring anyone for jobs that can be done cheaper by a robot. now that i think about it, that turning point will cause the economy to collapse and probably the robots themselves will become the new currency for the super rich. robots and land to house them. the poor will simply, necessarily die off.

>>13690822

>What the fuck? I thought Revenge of Shinobi was Shinobi 2.

GameGear Shinobi II

>>13691612

>just means that some people will get their wages cut to the level that their employer deems the job to be worth

Yeah, because clearly you have no free will of your own. Someone else is offering more? Nope, can't go there because my employer won't pay me if I leave him.

>but that hobo will take that un-livable wage because it will at least stave off death for a while longer than no wage at all.

If it is truly unlivable then he won't actually take it, or at least will only take it for a brief time. I know that it's great if people earn just as much as everyone else but that doesn't always happen, sometimes to get out of a shit situation you need to step into other shit that is just as unpleasant. If you forbid someone in an ALREADY awful situation then you aren't exactly helping him by pushing his head even deeper into the mud.

>this is all on top of the fact that automation is inevitable, it will take jobs until eventually a minimum wage will be moot because no one will be hiring anyone for jobs that can be done cheaper by a robot. now that i think about it, that turning point will cause the economy to collapse and probably the robots themselves will become the new currency for the super rich. robots and land to house them. the poor will simply, necessarily die off.

You have to be legitimately retarded to think of something like this. You have simply thrown out diseconomies of scale and pretty much any sort of feedback mechanism out of the window to make that conclusion happen and then are magically placing them back in to justify that conclusion.

Chinese government might ban battle royale games

>Up to 13,000 cheaters are being banned from PUBG every day

>Over 322,000 players have been booted from the game

http://archive.fo/DQ5L2

>>13691866

>Chinks are pieces of shit

>Game bans them because they're pieces of shit and ruining the game for everybody else

>Chinese government takes offense to this and decides to ban the game and all like it

Please, ban video games entirely, China.

>>13691775

>Someone else is offering more

until they can't afford to offer more due to economic pressures. like automation.

>take it for a brief time

what? until he finds a better job? he's not qualified for a better job, all the jobs he's qualified for are being taken by robots. you seem to somewhat misunderstand what a job actually is. it's not just busywork that some rich guy has you do just for his ego or whatever, an employee has to provide value and therefore make money. low-skill jobs are disappearing due to automatic machines that can do those low-skill jobs and provide that value for less financial investment than an employee's wage. gradually that is becoming true of high-skill jobs as well.

>diseconomies of scale

>feedback mechanism

and now you misunderstand the nature of automation. from an economic standpoint, there is no problem. indeed, it's only a solution. it's inefficient to have a building full of flawed, exhaustible, emotional humans doing menial tasks before requiring rest/food/recreation; the more efficient scenario is to fill the same building with several machines designed to do the same menial tasks but without requiring rest, etc. pretty much the only human you need is one or two smart guys who know how to solve any problems that come up with the machines and even that job can eventually be made redundant in the design stage of the machines or even some kind of mobile maintenance machine that can tend to multiple factories and can itself be maintained by only one very smart guy who can also eventually be replaced. automation is a unique problem in that, from the economy's perspective, it is indistinguishable from a simple increase in employee productivity for the same wage or less. everyone who isn't smart enough to be the smart guy maintaining the machines will have to take up farming just to feed themselves. i wonder if the corporations won't just buy up all the land for storage space to store all their machines.

>>13691145

The guy who did the music for the game has proper metal versions of some of the OST on his youtube channel, they're pretty rad.

>>13692014

Or they do what an episode ofgoodno Tabi showed, have everything run by robots but every single person works with recalculating the robot's calculation, and since people aren't faster than a computer there is no shortage of work.

>>13691488 (heiled)

You as well friend.

>>13690309

That sounds like a quarantine into an inevitable death which is very good sounding to me

>>13692198

God I wish I wasn't in the phone verification gulag so that I could tweet my laughter at these faggots.

>>13692216

>meanwhile, it's being beaten out by Assassin's Creed

>>13692198

HOW IN THE FUCK IS ASSASSIN'S CREED NOT DEAD YET?! That seriously made me a little angry right now. Last ac I played was Black Flag, even that one was not so good but from what I heard the others are even worse. Even gameplay wise it's pretty shit, story wise it's completely unplayble and as if that shit wasn't bad enough they also introduce gay politics into it.

>>13692172

>>13692198

The sales are not that hot http://steamcharts.com/app/612880

https://steamspy.com/app/612880

Even AssCreed WE WUZ KANGZ and Shadow of Retcons are not doing hot.

>>13692233

Or how about the fact that even though the gameplay is bad there is literally no replayability because they force you to watch their shit narrative every time. I think it was the 3rd one because I bought it got a save glitch(everything always autosaves 24/7 what a game…) so my save got corrupted when the game crashed during an autosave then I tried to replay it only to realize that now I have to run through this narrative again and play all the introductory missions and all this shit that I just don't want to listen to or see. It's like these games are designed to be run through then thrown into the trash.

>>13692263

>It's like these games are designed to be run through then thrown into the trash.

They are, why do you think they release new versions every year?

>play it

>throw it away

>buy a slightly different version next year

Big AAA studios don't want classics that everyone remembers and loves. They don't want to make Original DOOM, NES SMB games, etc. They want to make games people forget about, yet still like enough to want to experience again. They even try and reduce replay value by making it not worth your time. You'll never see things like New Game+ in a major AAA game franchises that releases yearly.

>>13692263

>I bought it got a save glitch so my save got corrupted

AC is one of those games where the pirates get the better version. I had that happen to me too in AC3 and BF. I also had to replay the previous games because after uninstalling them you lose your savegame.

You know what I loved about Saints Row 2? It allowed you to replay every previous mission. For some reason they removed that feature from SR3

>>13692014

>what? until he finds a better job? he's not qualified for a better job

Experience is a qualification, many car mechanics in smaller service stations go into the job with no knowledge or experience whatsoever but are taken in anyway because the guy running the car shop knows that you learn most things by doing them. In dealerships with official relations to big companies like BMW they will ask for a certificate but in smaller ones all you need to do is show that you aren't COMPLETELY useless. That is one example of a job that you can not only get into without knowledge (they will take the guy that studied the trade over you given the choice but they will still take you otherwise) and that you can use to build experience. The reason why I mention car shops in particular is because that is how our family got out of poverty.

>and now you misunderstand the nature of automation.

No, I don't. Literally all you did in that whole paragraph is deflect by pretending that I was talking about economic stability and then continue ignoring the existance of feedback within the economy because "muh dystopia".

>>13692466

Also before you claim "b-but your family got out of poverty BEFORE the machines took over the planet", there are lots of people that start going to trade school despite being in their late 20s because they got in that way and the shop they were working at became an official dealership, which requires every single employee to be certified in the trade.

>>13691145

Some Anon made the argument before that since the original Doom's music was based on the metal of it's era, nuDoom should've had more modern metal, something along the lines of Meshuggah. I agree, even though I don't particularly hate the nuDoom OST (it's still somewhat too much in a few places and uses too many synthetic sounds).

>>13691220

And it's dead.

>>13692221

Wait until the end of the year, when they'll blame the commercial failure of nuWolf 2 on nazis instead of making 2 thirds of the game like a movie, with absolutely shit characters.

>>13691291

>>13692521

They're already trying to blame it on "single player games being dead"

But I think they backtracked on that after Mario Odyssey released and they realized they were being more retarded than usual.

They're already desperately searching for any other reason for nuWolf's failure, other than no one wants the politics and no one wants interactive movies. But all year long they've been pushing political movie-games, and they've been selling like shit. They really don't have the power to shape public opinion after this. It's gone too far. No one is going to listen to their whining, even less than usual. The pattern that has emerged this year is too obvious. Watch Dogs 2, nuWulf, Prey, Battleborne, Lawbreakers, AssCreed Kangz, Mass Effect 3, etc. Social justice in video games is done, it won't sell, and it's just a matter of time before the businessmen come and remove it.

Not only that, you have cases where there were multiplayer games made by liberals (lawbreakers, battleborne, etc) that all failed. It's really just a matter of time before boards of directors and shareholders start to blatantly tell these people to fuck off because they're costing them money.

SJWs are going to try, but the situation has spiraled so far out of control for them that no amount of coordinating in GJP 2.0 is going to have much influence. They have no social justice poster children for success, outside of maybe games like Gone Home. And even then it fits what gamers are rejecting perfectly.

>>13692639

All they had to do was shut their fucking mouths and the game would have sold well. It's not the fact that most of the game is cutscenes, because that applies to so many games nowadays, and even then that would only effect the sales of the NEXT game after this one. They just had to avoid comparing Nazis to normalfag conservative Republicans and the game probably would have sold fucking millions on day one.

>>13691291

I pity you.

>>13692660

No, it wasnt just the marketing. The game itself is absolute shit and propaganda too.

>>13692639

Not enough originality, too much marketing and politics to promote the games… The AAA market feels too much like a social debate and a propaganda poster than a vidya market.

>>13692660

This wouldn't work. Even if politics or the bad marketing weren't there, the game's flaws would still be noticed.

>>13692660

Think it was more that the game was just fucking shit.

>>13692747

Only about ten voices actor in almost everything don't help it either.

>>13692747

Or go full Animal Crossing and let a machine speak.

>>13692747

This.

If someone absolutely needs everything read to him, text to speech works, too.

Good dialogue mods can only thrive in a text based environment.

>>13692762

Beeps and boops + text dialog for RPGs were fine even back in the 16 bit age, and compared to the cancer of VAs today I'd prefer that.

>>13692747

The way Banjo games do things is best.

Just have them mumble fun odd things as if there speaking a langue that we just don't know, that way it still works no matter what language the person playing speaks.

"The Jewtube video has a big obnoxious Subscribe text but it's still a good for what i'm pointing out here"

>>13692756

and those 10 voice actors are the same 10 in every other game.

>>13692780

It surely will be much cheaper too.

>>13692800

>Jennifer Hale

>Yuri Lowenthal

>Steven Blume

>Ashley Burch

>>13692813

Less disc space and development time spent on shit like lip-syncing too.

>>13692762

I actually would really like that approach. You get a sense of character with the Animal Crossing "dialogue" even though it's literally gibberish.

>>13692810

So it's going to go like this isn't it.

>Criticize the game for having too much cutscenes and characters acting retarded and destroying all suspension of disbelief (from what I've seen anyway)

>"lol you a nazi for disliking this"

>>13692845

It's going to be forgotten soon, sales are absolute trash.

>>13692221

I would wait till Friday to see the sales graph.

>>13692515

my nigga

>>13692771

The text to speech in that video doesn't seem that bad at all.

>>13692949

So, a pile of shit put on randomly and with no reason to exist?

>>13692949

Anon, post the whole thing. You know, where someone comments something along the lines of "This must be a great kindergarten class… Wait, you're a COLLEGE TEACHER?"

>>13692977

And I thought that I had problems with RAGE.

>>13692977

The fuck? I can rage in multiplayer, but the worst I do is scream a little in a proper hour.

It's kinda depressing people like that can get married and I can't find someone to love me.

>>13691424

>the corporations more or less move on to buying and selling raw materials to and from other corporations

But why would they buy raw materials if nobody has money to buy any products that those materials would be made into?

Hey, Anon, when will the Gamergate wiki be fix? So, I can continue editing and adding to it.

>>13693002

The left is shocked that even normalfags voted and will vote Trump again.

>>13693011

Personally, I'm somewhat of a sore loser myself, but I've never taken it out on everything around me. Worst it gets is some loud growling in anger. And even then, I really should be finding a house to buy, because the walls are kinda thin in my apartment, and after a pretty bad situation that in the end led to my landlord removing the previous tenant, I really want to be careful with my temper when the next one moves in.

>>13692639

>outside of maybe games like Gone Home

Gone Home only did somewhat well because they bait and switched it as a horror game before everyone got to see how fucking awful it was.

>>13692977

And here I thought I was being noisy just a couple hours ago because I keep getting my shit fucked up by the fucking AI on Dirt Rally.

>>13693046

Okay and no problem, Anon.

>>13692949

It hurts my brain to try and wrap it around how anyone could look at children's lego and see a expression of his retarded ideology.

>>13692660

I think it was mostly the fact that the game is a gigantic piece of shit, and this is coming from someone who liked the first and second game.

>>13693090

These are the same people that spout shit like "everything is politics" after all

>>13693104

Yes.

And it's a university professor, not a kindergarten teacher.

>>13692969

I thought it was from a kindergarten/preliminary school top kek, it writes itself

>>13693138

Just watch Gangnam style muted and remember everything what gook said about situation in Worst Korea.

You should be able to see at least 3 fucked up things in video.

>>13693134

Did teh doujin you posted ever get translated?

>>13693166

no idea

>>13693134

In his eyes you fucked up because you have deeper knowledge of the subject.

>>13693175

Is that Geralt voice actor?

>>13693175

I understand what you're saying now that you mention it.

>>13693230

>My dad just says that there's nothing interesting that is coming out today in vidya and lost interest despite buying a vidya or two per year

>Was disappointed at the sight of Mafia 2 and 3 when his favorite game was the first one since he never let it go for over 10 years after he bought it

>Without even modding it once

If he didn't shit the bed so much with the English language, I'd suspect he would post on /v/.

>>13693303

What is that shit and why isn't it a webm anon?

>>13692810

anyone who disagrees with the consensus is magically a nazi

>>13693324

Guess the nazis won WW2 with all those alt-right racist shitlords not buying Wolf2.

>>13693058

sauce?

>>13693303

>All these people complaining about the ads for Wolfenstein

>I have not seen a single picture of the tweets and shit everyone talks about

>>13693590

>range from 270 to 1070, average level 679

>every one of them all below the average level

wew

how is the testosterone level is measured anyway?

>>13693303

>BETHESDA USES A MEME

>OUTRAGE!!

Stop being this retarded. You're better than sjw's.

>>13692937

They tweeted this article about the new Wolfenstein game a few hours ago. It seems pretty standard for a review, nothing that screams ideology.

http://archive.fo/4KS8P

>>13693680

Here have a (2)

>>13693688

Why did you post some SU shit?

>>13693688

Bad audio, anon.

>>13693714

That's not SU, that's ER.

>>13693714

>complaining about a webm making fun of the (((gems)))

>>13693590

So with this can we confirm they are… Faggots?

>>13692158

i didn't look at my dubs and thought they were regular heil hitler dubs

the god emperor Adolf Hitler has smiled upon me

>>13693590

On the one hand, I suspect I am on the low end of the spectrum, but on the other, at least I ended up looking like a ghoul and not a fucking faggot.

>>13690229

>You can't buy the older longer version that was just a plastic mat.

>cut a tarpaulins into a strip

>spray water on it

>suddenly illegal

>cut a shorter tarpaulin and put a cushion on the end

>perfectly fine

This is ATF level of retarded.

>>13693821

You know what this means? You can kill a bunch of commies during their escalation and have no police show up.

>>13693590

Must be the chemicals in the water

>>13693865

May I at least know how you drew that conclusion?

>>13693864

Damn this doujin is poorly tagged. I've seen literally all the hentai on sadpanda that has the anal tag dating back to late 2012 and I've never seen this one even though this anime is fairly recent.

>>13693878

I'm referring to the excerpt in my picture, taken from the second archive link you posted.

>>13693866

Don't know but that blog post on that Rachel girl is creepy as fuck.

>>13693634

>every one of them all below the average level

Shit anon 4 out of 5 of them were below the lowest tier of below average they're practically women.

>>13693821

>This exercise will begin with a national massive coronal mass ejection event which will impact the national power grid as well as all forms of traditional communication, including landline telephone, cellphone, satellite, and Internet connectivity

So what does this mean exactly? Is this bit just make-believe as people check their systems? Will shit actually become inoperable between Nov 4-6?

>>13693918

It means they intend on an EMP happening

>>13693918

"massive coronal mass ejection event" is actually codeword for "DEMP superweapon" Like what happened to American before the start of the Firefly TV series, although that was "Hollywood Accurate" in it's effects. The way it was depicted in Highschool of the Dead was better but not wholly accurate.

Incedentally, google has censored "Destructive ElectroMagnetic pulse"

>>13693767

What's a hooktube, I don't trust it.

>>13692977

What a cuck

>>13693590

I swear there must be something in the water doing this. I am positive I never wanted to be a girl before, ow I just want to dress up in lingerie and get dicked.

>>13693989

No, that's just the result of lurking /v/.

>>13693994

Not a big deal, I've seen all of the enema tag too.

>>13693998

I'm also canadian, several factors I'm guessing.

>>13694002

That's tens of thousands of doujins anon

>>13694019

I've got a lot of free time.

>>13694025

>>13794000

There

>>13694045

>>13694000

It's an easy typo to make

>>13693353

>>13693636

found the nazis we need to kill guys

>>13693230

>when hearing about the Destiny 2 bans, he literally said "this is why I hate the concept of games as a service"

Can we trade fathers? Mine's addicted to Destiny 2 and is a hopeless Blizzdrone.

>>13693954

>>13693944

Build faraday cages and stuff your handhelds into your microwave. It'll protect them

>>13694124

Just Google "NORAD cheyenne mountains", since this is something that was announced in early 2015. The first result will be their website.

>>13694099

>So during the election they have most definitely been preparing for shit to go down

Wikipedia says that a contract with Raytheon was signed in 2015 to move NORAD command back to Cheyenne mountain. Which means that they had been planning it since at least 2014 since contracts don't get signed that fast. I don't think it was a response to "Muh Russia" in the election

>>13694147

Then it might be to do with the purges during Obabo and the consequent plans to integrate Jade II into the military.

>>13694175

Also the purge I am referring to is not the dismissal of 200 officers (although it does tie very heavily into the Jade II aspect) but rather the fact that he threw out a lot of the nuclear operators.

>>13693899

>Shit anon 4 out of 5 of them were below the lowest tier of below average they're practically women.

I wonder what's the ratio of nature vs nurture with numale syndrome. I mean as a thought experiment, if a ressurected hybrid Sun Tzu and general Patton were to take even 10 of those low-t journos, and tell them that in 2 months Earth will face a hostile alien invasion and the only chance of self defense and human life on earth as we know it, is to pick up a rifle and train as hard as possible to fight off the would be invaders.

How many out of those 10 numales would man the fuck up, or will they all go on twitter and twiddle their thumbs with #notallaliens, write articles on how xenophobic Patton Tzu is.

>>13694175

>>13694182

Wouldn't throwing out a lot of nuclear operators have something to do with a reduction in nuclear arsenal. If anything that wouldn't that indicate that they expect nuclear war even more now?

>>13693864

Could you please link me this doujin?

>>13694215

Nvm, just found it.

As I said, it's not tagged as "anal".

https://exhentai.org/s/5e1b03aaf9/1132952-12

>>13693534

wew

>>13694235

That's because it's not. It's manko fingering.

>>13694147

Not a response, but likely the "muh Russia" was an attempt to beat the war drums against them. Its been known that they have been aggressively installing anti-nuke/missile weapons to keep the possibility of a retaliatory strike from happening.

>>13694255 (checked)

I know that now. But it looked like it was anal on that page.

>>13693590

Reminder that every time you see someone online encouraging to "bash le fash" and punch nazis, they look like that in real life.

>>13694307

>He doesn't know that every part of a woman's body is a sex organ

women are warm and soft all over you can pretty much rub your dick on or in any part of them.

>>13694300

>it looked like it was anal on that page.

No it didn't. Nothing on the page hinted one way or the other, and if anything, one would assume it's vaginal as that is the norm.

>>13694318

>women are warm and soft all over

yeah but only a few parts are moist

>>13694330

you want your woman to be moist all over her body?

>>13694334

When I'm done with her, she will be.

>>13694334

Monstergirls are a wonderful thing.

>>13694118

Try having a dad who doesn't play games but wonders why I don't play Call of Duty or other military shooters

>>13694337

>maschalagnia

>Image doesn't show off Reimu's wonderful armpits, despite the oufit being made for it.

>>13694326

I won't reply you any further after this to not derail the thread because of your cheap bait.

Literally read the text.

>Huh? It went in… Is this okay? Serval-chan? It doesn't hurt, does it?

Also, the x-ray on the top left is drawn as it usually is for anal and she literally screams because of one finger being gently put inside of her.

>>13694390

He still has low T, just not abnormally so.

>>13694353

>Huh? It went in… Is this okay? Serval-chan? It doesn't hurt, does it?

Literally how the beta-faggot MCs in half of all consensual doujins act when they put anything in a bagina, except this time they're both girls, so it's cute.

>the x-ray on the top left is drawn as it usually is for anal

Wew lad. If you say so.

>she literally screams because of one finger being gently put inside of her.

Have you ever read a fucking doujin before?

>>13694253

So what's Jade II? I can't find much on google other than it being some sort of computer system

The NeoGAF outrage against MGSV's Quiet and Kojima has moved to ResetEra. New moderator condescends and insults poster who tries to explain simple biology in sex attraction by pulling the "mansplaining" argument.

http://archive.is/jSi1X

http://archive.is/gi67T

https://archive.is/jSi1X#selection-4969.90-4969.102

https://archive.is/gi67T#selection-273.67-273.76

https://archive.is/gi67T#selection-1259.0-1259.212

https://archive.fo/dTiy3

http://archive.fo/IIayM

Good morning!

>>13694481

>>13694475

Anything that pops out when it comes to panel? Like feminism and social justice related panels? Please share more.