a4a9a5 No.6098875[Last 50 Posts]
Continue to discuss.
Previous breads:
>>2221598 :: Banking bread 1 https://archive.fo/xjjZM
>>3474911 :: Banking bread 2 https://archive.fo/yo5xi
>>4505448 :: Banking bread 3 https://archive.fo/TtsG1
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Previous Bread Notables
Gold, Silver, and other traditional money systems specific notables
>>4885570 :: Interdasting history of money, gold, the roths from Neil Keenan
>>4515725 :: Relevant history of money doc for an overview of how we got here
>>4515857 :: Anon explains financial domination by big banks of financing alt media and links to video for greater detail
>>6090241 :: Anon succinctly explains why inflation hurts the poor and further divides us
>>4554602 :: NESARA & 9/11 connections
Gold shall destroy FED
>>6097080 :: Anon explains how destruction of old system may be death by 1000 cuts, not blitzkrieg event
>>4537235 :: Anon hypothesizes possible scenarios for coming off the Central Bank
>>4598065 :: Gold shall destroy the fed Q post, Jubilee connections
>>4532166 :: Compilation of breakdowns of potential "Gold shall destroy FED" scenarios
>>5123652 :: Will Trump eliminate income tax?
>>4598065 :: Breakdown of numbers and potential connections to strange phrasing of "Gold shall destroy…"
Bitcoin & [crypto] specific notables
>>5160867 :: Anon explains the difference between shitcoins & scams and the potential of a properly scaled bitcoin system
>>5563797 :: Anon explains the futility of shitcoins
>>4713271 :: Blockstream connections to big tech/DS
>>4598913 :: Bitcoins 103MB block and interdasting connections
>>5156179 :: CSW and JA ran in the same circles many years ago
>>5133274 :: CSW liked Trump tweet
>>5139459 :: WL twatter calls CSW serial fabricator; CSW asks POTUS if he wants to understand Bitcoin
>>4531837 :: Color and shape coincidences in new bitcoin (BSV) logo (Looks like a Q?)
>>4885320, >>4885327, >>4885370, >>4885381, >>4885430, >>4885435, >>4885457 :: very interdasting symbolism digs
>>4980044 :: Anon explains the value of uniting, creating win/wins among communities of moneyfags
>>5084627 :: NSA FOIA request denied regarding links to Bitcoin
>>4767890 :: CSW shouts out the autists?
>>5560264, >>5560425 :: BSV and Qanon communities coalescing?
>>5560425, >>5655715 :: Tim Berners-Lee (internet pioneer) is a trump hater; likes SAFE
>>5793540 :: Left-crypto-tech alliance about to take a hit?
>>5756182, >>5762400 :: CSW suspended from twitter; getting litigious with TWTR?
Other misc. interdasting digs
>>4598926, >>4598636, >>4598581, >>4598438, >>4598395, >>4598200, >>4598154 :: Interdasting R connections
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a4a9a5 No.6098904
Dough:
https://pastebin.com/RRADpxYZ
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e65448 No.6102138
>>6092277
>>6093521
>>6097080
Bitcoin did not start the sound money debate. GATA (Gold Anti-trust Action Committee) has been around for 2 decades along with people like Ron Paul and others. Bitcoin came out in 2009.
Ya, it could be crimes against humanity. Straight up EO classification for severe crimes against humanity and economic corruption.
Although Bitcoin is capped in quantity, new cryptos are coming out every day, which inflates the overall cypto pool. The best blockchain can be is an amazing currency, it can never be money. Only silver and gold are money. However, it is a wonderful innovation that was the breakthrough blockchain needed. I think the blockchain may be the best invention since the internet tho. However, the closer currency can be to real money, the better it is. Therefore, blockchain used to account for metal is a great option to use as your currency holding , while keeping most of your savings in real money, somewhere safe. As for Kinesis, they have a kick ass monetary team, which are aided by a great digital team. Not just extremely talented computer people giving (sound) monetary theory their best shot. Andrew Maguire, who blew the whistle on JP Morgan for rigging precious metal markets, is on the team. The CEO Tom Coughlin has ran ABX (Allocated Bullion Exchange) for almost a decade. It also has solved the Gresham's law problem with bringing metals into circulation (via profit sharing minute transaction fees and paying as interest instead of a credit card company taking all profits). Check into it yourself tho. Money will still be money…same as always.
Silver is a monetary metal, just like gold. Silver moves hand in hand with gold and is 95%+ correlated. The word for silver is the word for money in several languages. Indians have been passing generations of wealth down in their families via silver and gold dowry. It has been money for 1000's of years. It works great when not jacked around by banksters via paper metal contracts.
I could see the 1:10 ratio as a good holding %. The rich man can go heavy gold, but the average person should stick with heavy silver for the time being. The higher you can tolerate a little risk, the heavier you should go silver.
If the currency was to be backed by real money and everyone's assets are denominated in that currency, then the average citizen with any currency at all will have metals (money) exposure. Having a good measuring stick as money only helps the scenario. Constitutional money (silver and gold) are a way better base for an economy than RothsChild-Diddler pedo paper debt notes.
We need to drain the swamp. Then confiscate their assets legally via the EO & give the assets to the Treasury. Default on the debt that has least public exposure. Tell the banks they can piss off. Repatriate any metal that left in the Fed to the Treasury and absorb/abolish and confiscate assets. Hold the banksters accountable for economic crimes and confiscate all their assets too. This is treason and sever human abuses. It is literally robbing the population of their life donated to earning currency. Back a Treasury dollar and go back to Constitutional money. The definition of a dollar is 371.25 grains of silver. You can pay $1000 in debt with $100 of gold IF you allowed the price to rise by 10X.
Drain Swamp - Confiscate Assets - End/Absorb Fed - Default on bad debt - Raise the price of metals to a level that will clear the books - Release Treasury gold/silver backed dollars - Allow silver & gold ratio to work its magic after hopefully getting close (or at least closer) to fair value
There may be a hangover but it will be worth exiting the cancerous monetary system and getting back to free markets and honest money. It is not something that we can't get through as a nation.
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3e4173 No.6108057
Bitcoin allows the crimes unearthed during the Great Awakening to be fully documented and preserved for all the world to see and access instantly, decentrally enough, for virtual eternity.
Internet: pages and sites disappear and are stealth edited all the time
Books: can be burned and banned (look at history and NZ)
Bitcoin: immutable and very good at bypassing state and corporate internet censorship
Do you understand yet?
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a4a9a5 No.6110896
>>6108057 :: Information on bitcoin cannot be stealthy censored or altered by the cabal
Notable.
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5f45de No.6111538
>>6110896
neither can deep fakes be claimed about photos whose hashes were embedded and timestamped in 2013.
"proper fucked"
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5f45de No.6113458
The bipartisan bill has been authored by Representative Warren Davidson (R-OH) and co-sponsored by Representatives Darren Soto (D-FL-09), Josh Gottheimer (D-NJ-05), Tedd Budd (R-NC-13), Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI-02), and Scott Perry (R-PA-10).
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a1908e No.6115559
>>6090409
>Do you have any gold/silver target goals, or are you waiting for the polymer? I know some folks are going in on crypto. I really don't like the idea of a government crypto, I know a lot of people like it but I don't.
The goal is to stack the metal that yields the most new notes. The ratio balance will show you the way. Going in on crypto is only going in at the top of the debasement bubble. What happens to those that fall into the greed black hole? They hold heavy heavy bags. Once the debasement paradigm finally and fully capitulates you will be way ahead by playing it smart and finding support back at 1913. This game is for keeps. If you are a patriot then .gov driven by blockchain shouldn't worry you one bit. I discourage anyone thinking they can dance around at the top of the tower of babel while the c4 is cracking and popping.
144,000 and we ride:
144,000 - 129,252 = 14,748
Grab your tickets and don't look back.
#80526B
When they come you can guarantee they are coming in hot.
The financial landscape will be in ruins and tears will flow.
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37dbf3 No.6125584
>>6111538
Big if true
Theoretically how would one find these hashes or read more into this
Appreciate you sharing anon
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5f45de No.6126467
>>6125584
https://gizmodo.com/these-cryptic-wikileaks-tweets-dont-mean-julian-assange-1787866602
https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereIsAssange/comments/5ds2o6/assanges_dead_man_switch_activates_and_writes/
There was a thread in the qresearch catalog as well that flairs up now and again with guys trying to decode it. There are claims that it's been done, but there are tags on the files that are immediately tagged and shut down. Perhaps even killed. No evidence of either. I imagine it's pretty airtight. Those files could be screen shot and bounced around the world if they were out of pandora's box already. This is why Assange is alive still.
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20aecd No.6126676
>>6113458
Sounds like the last gasp of a deep state trying to keep their house-always-wins casino afloat
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d1a9a7 No.6126766
>>6115559
Step 1 is 80526b /\
Step 2 is ?
Sand castles erode but vision is not sacrificed
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5f45de No.6127881
>>6126676
I'd say that it looks more like trying to stimulate innovation and developing appropriate regulation in time rather than pushing a square peg through a round hole.
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d1a9a7 No.6127963
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c37714 No.6132842
>>6127881
Innovation in the blockchain space doesn't require and is in no way helped by loosening securities laws. Securities laws are for investments, to protect investors. Blockchains and crypto do not make investments special in any way, although the crypto community at large mistakenly that crypto as an investment is blockchain's best (sometimes only) use case.
And even if blockchains were a special type of investment, they would on average be one of the poorest investments in history. Sure some people might have made money on the FOMO hype and manipulated pumps of individual coins to date but 99.9% of them have zero underlying value, and when the crunch hits they'll collapse to worthlessness without looking back. To bring it full circle, this paragraph sums up why we have securities laws…to protect investors from ponzis and other obvious scams (with or without blockchain)
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7b0fd1 No.6141069
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>6132842
we're barking up the same tree…
I agree with most of what you say though I do think there is a case for some of these projects to have new regulation. stock certificates don't have utility, dual or more use. It's just a contract. So in the cases that there are tokens that do more, then I would suggest appropriate categorization, which doesn't yet exist. I don't know if such thing as a utility coin only reg would be appropriate since a lot of these also raised money on the token sale. There is no ultility token only or hybrid regulation and the securities law as it doesn't apply for those. As for the other 95%, sure, fuck 'em. They should all go to jail. To me, ETH is a scam from the beginning. I might only give leeway to Mastercoin/OMNI because it was the first ICO, back when they were still called crowdsales to solve the colored coin failure with a meta token on BTC. There are elements of security, but also utility and innovation. It had real thinking behind it. Also MAID, the second crowdsale. In my mind, not a lawyer, it seems more like a security, startup money, but ultimately it is to be exchanged for the network utility token. More importantly, though, is that they haven't pushed out an unfinished product. There's no copy/paste with MAID. It's more legit as an actual decentralized technology than even BTC…and 5 years on, the network still isn't live. People complain because it's not getting the fast money, but when you really look at the innovation and what's coming, security or not, it's the opposite of the 99.99% garbage in terms of honestly with regard to innovation, funding, and post-funding behavior. DOGE got crypto-rich and sponsored a Nascar…seriously? Money made by fraud gets spent that way.
Faggots act like marketing idiots when money is free. Think bitconnect! Even better, Ethereum!
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a4a9a5 No.6141763
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7d6d8f No.6161244
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Jim Willie on silver and gold.
Starting at 54:50 he talks about silver, then later gold.
He says that his insider claims that silver will NOT be a monetary metal but will be a "highly protected and treasured industrial metal" and "the energy and technology standard metal" and that gold is going to be "the monetary metal." Silver will have a protected market although still fair and just, based on supply and demand.
Price estimates (per troy ounce):
silver: $200 - $400
gold: $10,000 - $15,000
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d7fdb4 No.6166139
https://coinjazeera.news/local-children-missing-after-brock-pierce-moves-to-puerto-rico/
Great satire. Like The Onion for crypto…though these articles might be half true! Funny nonetheless.
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a1908e No.6192879
>>6127963
Stick with Au if you want solid insurance. You will be watching it oscillate in the "balance zone" from now until the fix.
Ag will net you some bonus notes as well as Pt (anon's choice). Pt the most undervalued right now in terms of bringing things back to 1913.
Pd will net you the least amount of new notes as the fix has quite a correction at this point. Shorts have one more job to complete and their debts will be considered paid in full.
After your horse has been selected grab some nUMs and wait for 144,000.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmtw8grnnUM
After that we ride.
IN GOD WE TRUST
Closing in on 14,000 as we speak…
144,000 - 129,945 = 14,055
May 7th….China……they know the new notes are coming…
All traders (traitors) are starting to finally smell the change in the air. The fear is real and they know the fee machine is shutting down before their very eyes. This is not a drill.
>>6126766
Install based individuals back into finance and the rest falls into place. Fix the source and the echoes will become music to your ears. The show goes on.
In short Step 2 = You
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a1908e No.6193010
>>6161244
Jim Willie is a delusional RV advocate most likely working directly for the fee machine. These clowns don't actually ever want to see anything like this as they know their business model will be null and void. Over half of these jokers sold out to crypto and now have the balls to advise you to store your metals in one of their vaults. They know what's coming and I can assure you all they want is to promise you the world while they pluck cells from your soul one penny at a time.
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f2dc4c No.6198154
>>6192879
Is 80526b the key to get nums early or do I have to wait. I know something is there
Some of us weren't born with the autist gene, however weve made it further then those that were..
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83c09b No.6199684
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044402 No.6200029
From the moment Bitcoin arrived on the edges of the mainstream, bad actors have been trying to take it down, and here in 2019 is nothing different. Nearly every Twitter sock puppet and crypto influencer (lol) is going hard in the paint against one coin right now. The chain with the longest set of unbroken digital signatures. The chain with an unchanged protocol over 10 years. The chain that supports instant p2p censorship-resistant transactions. The chain that can store immutable records and files for the world to access censorship-free. The chain that scared the pants off the bankers and the globalists when they first began to understand its implications in 2012 until they seized control of it in 2017.
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a2b14e No.6202244
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a4a9a5 No.6203230
>>6200029
The great awakening is coming to [crypto].
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68d54a No.6207250
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Alliance vs Deep State: The Final Showdown! David Wilcock Best Interview Ever!
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68d54a No.6207260
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Deep State can't stop the Great Awakening: DAVID WILCOCK Exclusive Interview [Part 5]
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68d54a No.6207262
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. David Wilcock: Antarctic Atlantis and Secret Space Program 2019
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68d54a No.6207273
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. David Wilcock Predicts Some Very Big Events Coming Up in 2019
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86195c No.6208208
>>6200029
>until they seized control of it in 2017
sauce or gtfo.
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7ff1bc No.6210186
>>6207250
Ugghhhh man.
This is recycled bovine scat.
Years of the same crap!
Old & crusty hype for nothing…
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044402 No.6211568
>>6208208
Check the previous breads for connections between Blockstream, Digital Currency Group, Mastercard, Paypal, Bilderberg
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044402 No.6211648
With Bitcoin, we can now archive websites to a censorship resistant blockchain for essentially eternity.
One of 1,000 world-changing applications contributing to the Leftist-Communist-Silicon Valley alliance's mission to destroy or bastardize Bitcoin.
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0dcd63 No.6212292
>>6210186
I'm sure Q borrowed some of the ideas from him…
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3bd187 No.6215757
>>6211568
correlation is not causation.
BTC is not controlled.
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3bd187 No.6215785
>>6211648
storing files on a blockchain is so dumb.
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c37dcd No.6221477
>>6115559
XRP will be world currency, predictions from $200-$10000 per xrp.
https://home.treasury.gov/sites/default/files/2018-07/A-Financial-System-that-Creates-Economic-Opportunities—Nonbank-Financi….pdf
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c37dcd No.6221493
>>6211648
bitcoin won't be used for this, bitcoin is slow and shit. it will be tron.
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acb737 No.6222494
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843c8d No.6226432
>>6215757
If BTC isn't controlled someone really needs to come up with a good reason for SegWit's existence and explain it to the smart people in the room. Also we should have a good reason for the tentacles of the Blockstream Behemoth spending so much time and money astroturfing and socially engineering the entire crypto space toward shit solutions and manipulated pump and dump ponzis.
Because from here it looks like some run-of-the-mill commie tactics, same ones they used (and which failed) against Trump, and it looks an awful lot like nothing scares the crypto space like a stable Bitcoin protocol without the SegWit bug.
>>6215785
The internet is dumb.
>>6221477
GL and HF
>>6221493
Reasonable prediction anon
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d75ee4 No.6227484
>>6211648
>5G Push
>Gold backed cryptocurrency
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acb737 No.6235656
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. https://www.freetips.com/horse-racing/us-triple-crown/us-triple-crown-dates/
https://dailyhodl.com/2019/04/11/bakkt-says-race-day-is-approaching-to-bring-crypto-to-the-mainstream/
"Race Day"
Beetlebaum…….
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acb737 No.6235807
>>6226432
>a good reason for SegWit's existence
blockchains can't scale. I'm not against second layer solutions.
Not sure what you mean about blockstream pushing ponzis. Those guys are generally Bitcoin maximalists.
I think you point out an interesting nuance in the cypherpunk world. I noticed it with the SAFE crew as well. There is some overlap with honest idealistic utopian commies, libertarians, and anarchists in being against centralization. It's important not to conflate them nor to confuse a well meaning idealist with a bastard centralist masquerading as Bernie Sanders. It's subtle, but your blanketing blockstream for having some lefties…
Think for yourself. Look at their individual fruits. Follow money and relationships. For the moment, I'm comfortable with them. Bitcoin was/is a shit protocol that is still the best hope for destroying the fed. That said, I'm hedging bets. Not going all in on anything. Never go full retard!
(Digital) Gold destroys the FED.
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843c8d No.6237644
>>6235807
The "Blockchains can't scale" narrative was a whopper from…Blockstream…which has been empirically proven false. FUD around reorgs are exactly that and solely affect miners, not users, when the system is working as intended. Otoh Blockstream's irreversible SegWit bug cannot scale - BTC is dead whether anyone realizes or not, at least as far as a global network is concerned. Most recently Core is entertaining the idea of increasing the $21M cap to introduce inflation. When its possible for a small group of paid-off developers to change fundamentals like that, we might as well suck it up and accept the Fed. A stable protocol for blockchain based money removes the power that so many in this space are seeking.
It sounds like we're close to agreeing that central bankers are the root cause of most of the woes of this planet. (THEY) are not threatened by thousands of shitcoins. In fact its in their best interest to have as many competing cryptocurrencies as possible! Divide and conquer.
When the first sniff of a recession approaches the implosion of crypto begins, and (THEY) will centralize even more wealth and power because people were blinded by short term gainz. But if we as a group were smart enough to coalesce around one coin, with a stable protocol, we would protect from (THEM) as well as the worst of ourselves. All we need is a reliable, scalable blockchain…nothing fancy.
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acb737 No.6239683
>>6237644
You lost me at EOS. Forget Blockstream. If you're pushing EOS and some of these other attempts at scaling + features, then FUGGGGG… EOS is more centralized than Blockstream would ever want to make Bitcoin. That itself undermines the argument. I worked with some of the folks from one of main block producers for EOS. The whole thing is a scam in the back office. I ran away as far and as fast as I could. That BS will blow back hard and I hope Dan Larimer, his dad, and their combined decades with Raytheon will be a lesson for the fast money crowd. Direct investors were fairly famous international liberal/establishment billionaires. There was already open discussions with gates foundation money and direct connections to Soros NGOs, etc. It all got too spooky for me so I bounced. I'm sure I could have stayed and made bank, but I want to crush those people. It would have been illegal for me to record them, but FUGGGGGG. The crypto community is ignorant and naive.
Coinbase promoting shitcoins doesn't mean anything. Look at who has left Coinbase. Compare their values vs. those that stayed. Look who banks Coinbase. They've already stated they hate Bitcoin. Coinbase is compromised, IMO…and you're bitching about Blockstream? Seriously?
Promoting SV as a scaling solution? GTFO already. Lots of things can be shown to scale technically, but not economically. Plus, you need adoption. All the good will in the world, won't make anyone's pet/preferred project win the race. Shit has to work, and the best minds in the world, Blockstream or not, are working on Bitcoin. Period. End of Story. There are a handful of experiments on the side, like my preferred SAFE Network because it's at least a 10x improvement from blockchain as a consensus mechanism + a whole network, not just a distributed ledger, womp womp, but 99.9% of the rest is shill territory and pure fraud.
Central Bankers, Pharisees, Cabal, whoever. Same people. I'd personally tie millstones to their necks.
Centralized money isn't the only problem. It's the underlying problem of centralized data/information at the heart. This calls for more than just blockchain, the end of the FED, or the end of MSM.
Don't confuse distributed with centralized either. before 1987, there were lots of medium and large sized banks. And now, there's only about 6 big investment banks plus the scraps for regional banks. Sure, the FED and no gold was still the underlying issue, but distribution was better. Full decentralization has undesirable tradeoffs. The demand on individuals would undermine the benefits of working together and specialization. Some level of not centralization but transparent audited distribution is optimal…just not the mere 20 or so nodes of EOS…
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acb737 No.6239701
>>6239683
Almost forgot the link.
Sat(ire) but True!
Much great articles. Wow clean fun!
https://coinjazeera.news/dan-larimer-receives-guinness-world-record-for-most-crypto-exit-scams/
Dan Larimer Receives Guinness World Record for Most Crypto Exit Scams
2 weeks ago Coin Jazeera
Photo courtesy of Virginia Tech.
Photo courtesy of Virginia Tech.
Serial swindler, Dan Larimer, who conned his way into becoming a Blockchain Billionaire, was awarded the Guinness World Record on Thursday for most crypto exit scams. Larimer, who is best known for his role in creating popular hit scams such as Bitshares, Steem, and EOS received the award after brilliantly exit scamming EOS in October and announcing plans for creating his fourth new shitcoin.
The genius behind Larimer’s work is his finesse. He tells everyone he’s not quitting and then…he quits!”
Brendan Blumer (CEO Block.One)
Although Larimer still claims to be the CTO of Block.One, our reporters checked Github only to realize he hasn’t made a single commit to EOS since October.
When asked about his new project, Dan told Coin Jazeera:
“The muse behind my art is greed. With EOS I was able to raise $4 Billion Dollars by liberating a bunch of suckers, I mean investors, that missed out on the Ethereum ICO. I consider it to be my finest work to date. For the next one I think I can raise $8 billion. It will be my masterpiece. My magnum opus. I have this brilliant idea to tell people I can create a better Bitcoin. People believed me three times already. Why not four?”
We caught up with Kyle Samani of notorious hedge fund Multicoin Capital, and asked how it feels to have thrown away his reputation and disgraced himself in the industry by shilling Larimer’s latest work.
“Being a Crypto fund manager is hard. Like really hard. My job is to hedge into Ethereum competitors but everything else honestly sucks. If we keep our LPs money in ETH they say we’re not doing enough. If we move into shitcoins they say why didn’t we stay in ETH. It’s tough. I don’t know what I’m doing, but I try hard to act like I do. My job is literally to beg for money for a living. It sucks. I wish I just invested in Ethereum in 2014 so I wouldn’t have to do this shit. At least Dan has the best scams, err- art, and tells us about them beforehand. In that regard he deserves the Guinness.”
People believed me three times already. Why not four?
Dan Larimer (We don’t even know anymore)
Upon receiving his award, Dan said, “This is an honor. I’d like to thank my parents for teaching me these values. I also want to thank my mentor Brock Pierce for helping me exit scam everyone from Burning Man to LA. Without them, none of this would be possible. It took years of practice to get this far. I started with chain emails and moved my way up to Herbalife. When I came across crypto, I knew this was my moment. My only wish is that Elon gets us to space soon so I can scam the aliens.”
Dan Larimer is 36 years old.
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ce81b5 No.6239774
>>6237644
>All we need is a reliable, scalable blockchain…nothing fancy.
for sure anon. well stated. if you dig deep enough, you will find the gems. just putting it out there for more research and exploration.
200,000 active node downloads, 5 mining algorithms (soon to be ASIC resistant with Odocrypt - a morphing algorithm), 15 second block times, scalable to more than 2000 tps by 2020 and 285,000 tps by 2035. Solid multi-layered applications including cybersecurity, real-estate, supply chain management and financial technology.
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bdf8db No.6242641
RE: muh crypto and blockstream and coinbase
Wouldn’t trust 99.9% of them. I’m sure some of them are good people but those running the show?
Would feel very comfy wagering that a vast majority of the Coinbase and Blockstream types voted H in 2016 and will vote against Q+ in 2020 (~95% of Silicon Valley donations went to Dems in ‘16 n ‘18). Have they cleaned house yet? Judging by continued social media censorship and deplatformng, shills and bots, etc?
Remember all this ties back to weird occult shit, child trafficking, and above all POWER.
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a1908e No.6244128
>>6242641
>Would feel very comfy wagering that a vast majority of the Coinbase and Blockstream types voted H in 2016 and will vote against Q+ in 2020
Digital Currency Group:
In their Portfolio = Everything "the future"
https://dcg.co/portfolio/
Running their show = Delusional leftists
https://dcg.co/who-we-are/
For those of you having a hard time connecting the dots….
Digital Currency Group → Bitcoin → Coinbase → Barry Silbert → Larry Summers → Bill Clinton
You get the point.
Crypto is a continuation of what we already have. A rebranded trick to the eye. It hijacked the libertarian movement. Constructed to be a precious metals look alike paradigm. Creates digital currency ad infinitum. Sound like something you are familiar with?
Crypto = Wall St. 2.0 = Life Extension
We are witnessing something that is literally in it's death throws.
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a1908e No.6244154
>>6198154
#80526b is your only ticket out of here. Grab a horse and saddle up. Nothing is stopping this.
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e65448 No.6244402
Physical gold and silver are suppressed and manipulated via the paper futures market. HSBC is the custodian of GLD and had sent the a camera crew into their vaults to "prove" the gold was there after rumors were spreading that it was not. The vault seemed to have the gold……however it turns out the bar that was shown to the camera was from someone else's stash and had been shuffled into the HSBC vault without permission.
The phyical gold and especially silver markets are the Achilles heal of the banksters. Just like in the London Gold Pool, they need to suppress metals by adding supply to the market. LEarning from the London Gold Pool, the banksters created the futures market in metals to suppress so they wouldn't need to sell the physical for suppression.
Take away the ability to suppress metal (even better, go to a gold standard) and the banksters inherently evil system will collapse upon itself. The current system would not be sustainable in a free market. Free markets need honest money to function.
A few years back, Deutsche Bank was caught rigging precious metals market and blew in other banks as part of the settlement. POTUS knows what's up, it just was a complicated problem that needed time to be fixed properly. The day is coming tho.
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2a76a4 No.6257512
What to invest in?
Gold
Silver
Bitcoin
Blockchain technology
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dc5a86 No.6260569
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d1a9a7 No.6263963
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13b221 No.6268639
>>6244154
>>6198154
Is 80526b a reference to LOP?
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022c4d No.6283275
This crash is going to be epic
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c401c2 No.6287315
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a1908e No.6290084
>>6268639
The four corners of your self made prison realized. Shatter them with #80526B.
They will babble all the blockchain tokens forever and ever. They only take pills so they can remain blind.
Getting closer by the day…
144,000 - 130,975 = 13,025
There isn't much time left now. The doors making that creaking noise now.
nums or death by the left
Your choice as always.
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d1a9a7 No.6290343
>>6290084
Do you put all of your horses into the nums, or do you leave some left over for when the horse prices inevitably rise. give a horse rider a good plan and he will follow it
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a1908e No.6290429
>>6290343
Eggs are a curious thing. As always do what you must to survive. Just know that nums will have you forgetting about price increases. Find the ones most out of balance and go to them. That window is shrinking. It was never about tangible vs. intangible. Once you form the composite all becomes clear.
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d1a9a7 No.6290714
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4b481f No.6290760
Bitcoin is the cabal planned NWO currency you stupid fucks. Prolly made by DARPA. You all trying to pass the buck you bought in at 20000 off to the next bigger idiot still?
And block chain is not an interesting technology nor does it solve any problems that haven't been solved infinitely more practically already in the 1970s.
"fuck the feds. Let's all use a currency where all we care about is its ratio to fed dollars" derrrp bunch of useful idiots.
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c401c2 No.6293009
http://futurescot.com/the-small-company-from-troon-which-has-got-the-attention-of-sir-tim-berners-lee-and-hollywood-and-scotland-not-so-much/
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c401c2 No.6293013
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186342 No.6294960
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>6203230
Truth. And it's gonna be a humdinger.
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c63f92 No.6296576
>>6290760
Read more and stop with the fear porn. The good guys are now in charge if you haven’t been paying attention for the last two years.
A Blockchain has the potential to perfect honest capitalism and government. What may have been previously created for evil purposes can be turned into something great for the world. And even if the NWO planned to usher in Bitcoin as the OWC, it’s possible that white hats realized Bitcoin was an immutable evidence trail of crimes and kept very detailed records of its use by low and mid-level members of the global criminal cartel. The NSA can do things that can spin my head for years. Let’s just say Bitcoin+Tor is not completely anonymous and it’s possible to ensnare a lot of higher ups based on this fucked up crypto web that’s been weaved.
Sure your scenario might be true but 1) I don’t think Trump is part of the NWO 2) I have guns 3) I think Q was on to something when he said BE THE PLAN. Fear porning about the NWO and Bitcoin while it’s quite clear to me they’re on their last legs accomplishes nothing. Whats your solution to a global debt bubble and unlimited fiat printing presses other than a full scale economic depression/meltdown? Even with stimuli it will be very painful for a large portion of the population. One or a handful of legal, stable cryptos solves MANY problems at once.
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9a0f6f No.6296640
>>6296576
>NWO’s crypto [its litecoin]
See:
>>6294010 (pb) Is Lifecoin originator Charlie Lee a supporter of UN Agenda 21? Call for a DIGG
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c63f92 No.6296728
>>6296640
Off-thread NOTABLE af
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ce81b5 No.6296972
1) embrace unhackable deflationary currencies.
2) decentralized blockchains are fundamentally defensive technologies. NWO does not like this.
3) ignore fear porn.
"Blockchain 2035. The digital DNA of Internet 3.0" - https://youtu.be/xsLQ61hnht8
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a1908e No.6301185
>>6290760
>Bitcoin is the cabal planned
Now you are paying attention. Looks like Wall St., talks like Wall St., and smells like Wall St. life extension.
Eerily similar to when a corporation re brands itself to mask it's past. Oh and look its more efficient than ever!
Anyone pro Bitcoin anything is a proponent of a left wing socialist utopia that prints coinz foeva….
Those new notes however are exactly what the doctor ordered.
IN GOD WE TRUST
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c401c2 No.6304000
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13b221 No.6304369
>>6304000
Isn't Rogers nwo?
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f4aa14 No.6308045
>>6296640
>>6296728
Charlie sure tweets to Jack a lot. It's like a three-way between Charlie, Elizabeth Stark and Jack. Smells like swamp.
If any crypto can be trusted with certainty, it's Bitcoin and only Bitcoin.
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187d8a No.6308105
Gold shall destroy FED
>>6098875
Said every conspiracy nut since 1987. Still waiting faggot. Wishing doesn't make it so. It's like the storm or the awakening or HRC arrest, or tribunals, RBG, JFK, DEWS and the rest of the bs you cook up and rehash to Qoolaide drinkers.
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187d8a No.6308176
>>6290760
Not to mention every transaction is permanently on a public ledger. Unless your selling BTC on the street cashing out is tricky while not letting every transaction you made be tracked for all fucking time. Almost like it was made for that… You can buy gold but its all tracked no hiding the trans. I would think that would light up the lizard brained here. Every transaction you make public… I work in blockchain. You missed the boom. Wall St is involved now it's over for anons. If you were smart you had an awesome 2017-2018. You are setup on the legit exchanges already and dont need advice from 8chan…There is some interesting things in the tech and it won't go away soon. But it will have zero impact on the dollar or anything else being thrown about here. Anyone getting crypto advice on 8chan and using it deserve to lose everything. Crypto is high risk. So please all your racist fucks invest heavy in whatever John McAfee shills. As far as privacy there are better coins than BTC. Even tumbled BTC can be traced. BTC was first and has best name recognition. Crypto best used for micro payments, gaming, etc. The idea that you need a coin in order to have a blockchain secured and decentralization was proven false years ago. Decentralization is great for video hosting, it has helped and probably will in keeping or regaining your freedom of speech on the internet that you Q freaks use so wisley… insert sarcasm for the ignorant
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c401c2 No.6308236
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c401c2 No.6308264
>>6308176
>>6308105
Namefag, tell us more about fucking whores without condoms…
>So please all your racist fucks invest heavy in whatever John McAfee shills.
Racist?
GTFO.
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13b221 No.6308282
>>6308236
Nevermind it was a mislabeled video of Admiral McRaven. But sounds like I hit a nerve with you on your boss.
Why's this "patrios" Rogers, working out of Tel Aviv with Citigroup, Qualcom, and MSFT? Since when did all of that become patriotism?
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0141e5 No.6309335
>>6308264
GTFO or what? Q going to use his mind control on me? Going to comment bomb me? I've had worse ignorant threats than 8 chan could possibly muster in my life. Are your racist? Plenty of them here.
That line was obviously meant only for the racists, was steeped in sarcasm too. Try it sometime makes life more… palpable
Whores with no condoms is dangerous just like investing in crypto, ask 90% of the people who didn't get out when the bottom fell last time. Happens fast. I was lucky being in the industry. MC of all crypto dropped faster than… (insert faster than joke here)
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0141e5 No.6309871
>>6242641
Anyone who has spent 4 hours in the industry can tell you with confidence few voted for HRC in crypto. But your right they wont vote trump either. Crypto has been dominated largely by people with libertarian mindsets and ideals almost entireley until the money came pouring in, only a tiny amount reside in silicon valley. Of course they give dem its run by dems. I know its 30 miles from me. If it was in houston they would give to gop just the way it works they just want to do biz. I cant think of a single person i know in crypto lib or conservative values that voted for her. They want less govt control its what crypto was made to try and do as an experiment. Im sure there are a few. The others probably dont vote at all they were there for the scams and they made bank sadly. Your right not to trust coinbase but only because they don't give two shits about privacy or freedom's just high rates for their service. Its their for the convience noobs. The industry needed to purge the rest of the scammers and shit coins or be regulated to death even further. They failed. So far self regulation has been shit. These coins should be gone now. But greed took over. Imagine making 1000X on your money in a day several times over year. Makes people cray. Some gem projects with good people and intentions but lots of bottom feeders too. Steemit was somewhat a success with good aims, has fairness issues but not intentional its run by everyone who wants to work hard and gets voted to have a server. Ethereum is was coolest with potential to be born to furitian further and better on another platform learning from the first. I hope. Cool story the programer was like 15 or 16 year old genius from Russia. Highest IQ i have ever heard about. Wrote the concept walking through SF. That blockchain runs apps within it. Blockchains within blochains running decentralized apps independent of the others. Its public anyone can do it, producing their own tokens (coins). It has limit issues though. Crypto is all open source and copy pasta coins made up idk 75% of coins in 2017. Shit coins. People wanted on the train while it was still running and before the IRS caught up. Now its probably 60%. IRS caught up train is in the station. Took nothing to start a coin and call it whatever but a small amount of capitol for server space, a few public faces to take the heat when the tears came. A shit white paper and concept you could be a millionaire in raised ico money before the coin was even made or a line of code written. It also ruined the industry killing much of the potential. NSA doesnt need tracking tech with btc its built in. Its just a huge distributed ledger. Software to make sense of it yes but its around in open source. Nothing really special about that. Its just big. BTC and most were made so every transaction was public and permanent impossible to alter. And trackable by anyone. Bittrex is the only exchange i trust in the sense the owner is one honest law abiding dude. Would never intentionally burn anyone.Follows the letter of the law. Coinbase is good for the noobs its king and not going anywhere its paypal for crypto. Thats all not a conspiracy just a company.
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0141e5 No.6309939
>>6308264
I do apologize for the faggot comment in one post you tagged. Thats not me. I hear it so often here by a few of the bad actors it caught on. Im tired and punchy today. Namefag yeah thats about right i got nothing to hide. There is sometimes freedom in complete transparency. Although i would fight to the bone for many freedoms i may rarely use.
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32a6c4 No.6311212
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390852 No.6311286
>>6309871
Law-abiding? Who's laws? Today's laws made yesterday's illegal.
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ea06b7 No.6311751
>>6309871
Bitcoin (as designed) threatens common enemies of good conservatives, libertarians, anti-establishmenters, anarcho capitalists, capitalists, sound moneyers, currency nationalists, and empirical and non-Keynesian economists. Those common enemies are crony capitalists, communists, Leftists, and the globalists; they common theme tying all these people together is their ability to exploit a central bank system well when they're in control of a country. Shitcoins are not a threat to (them), actually they're a benefit as their existence fragments the space into a non-threat. There divide and conquer tactics will continue to work until we realize the severity of threats we face to our principles.
A stable Bitcoin protocol as designed threatens there gravy train and can help to alleviate worldwide debt enslavement.
>>6311286
The Rule Of Law is coming back in a big way.
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a1908e No.6312720
>>6311751
Enter the New Notes. One swift action to end all this nonsense and leave the digital fiat forgery machine in the dust. The notes will be created (and only created) as metals are deposited back into the system. Each note will be tied to one immutable blockchain that will be run properly by based individuals that are impervious to greed.
The errors of the past will be made clean. As said before there will only be two ways in and that is cash or precious metals in hand. They are the tickets #80526b. All else will be left behind. IN GOD WE TRUST or bust.
So many have a hard time wrapping their minds around the balance because their minds have been manipulated and mislead. For decades they have learned that finance can only exist in some convoluted way that requires some expensive college degree. Like it or not we are going back to simple. Find support back at 1913 because there is no stopping this.
We're under 13K now. How much longer are you going to wait? Crypto was the bear trap of the balance. Leftists took the bait hook, line, and sinker. This was a precision operation. Anon's choice laughing at the ones thinking that correction isn't happening.
Who implemented the coinage in 86? Who laid the infrastructure and protocols for the internet itself? Operation Trap Door in full effect.
You think they are showing you what a black hole looks like just for fun? The event horizon is a son of a bitch.
144,000 and we ride
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93894b No.6314682
>>6244128
that maybe proves to be 20/20 100% in this case. But dont lose sight of the fact that the genie cant go back in da bottle.
last time it was attempted:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/georgeleef/2014/12/09/protecting-us-from-a-terrorist-who-made-pure-silver-coins-the-bernard-von-nothaus-case/
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9fe280 No.6322442
>>6312720
80526b related to ?…
>Https://www.ftc.gov/enforcement/rules/rulemaking-regulatory-reform-proceedings/fair-debt-collection-practices-act-text#805
(b) Communication with third parties
>Except as provided in section 1692b of this title, without the prior consent of the consumer given directly to the debt collector, or the express permission of a court of competent jurisdiction, or as reasonably necessary to effectuate a postjudgment judicial remedy, a debt collector may not communicate, in connection with the collection of any debt, with any person other than the consumer, his attorney, a consumer reporting agency if otherwise permitted by law, the creditor, the attorney of the creditor, or the attorney of the debt collector.
I can't find anything 805 (26) b other than a 25/25/25/25 hex color code but this is of vague relation to your 1/25/50/100 currency value
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a1908e No.6335089
>>6322442
>25/25/25/25 hex color code
The four corners of a self made prison. Only one way out.
Chart updated to match March 2019 CPI and today's "prices".
Find the balance…
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f26870 No.6339791
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a4a9a5 No.6398127
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a4a9a5 No.6398140
>>6398127
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXdkczX5mR0
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6e40fd No.6400925
>>6398127
>>6398140
Craig Wright is tapped into the dark corners of the internet. He takes other people's ideas and co-opts them. There is a big chicken and egg problem with the CW symbols everywhere.
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61ee70 No.6402744
>>6400925
Dr. CSW doesn't seem like the kind of guy who spends his free time tapping into dark corners of the internet, but regardless it doesn't matter to this anon if he created Bitcoin, only that he's the most vocal proponent of keeping Bitcoin Bitcoin. If CSW ever tries to introduce SegWit or CTOR or any other bullshit that makes Bitcoin not Bitcoin I will change my opinion of him, but for now this anon will not concern myself with the personal petty drama surrounding him.
Matthew 7:18
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6e40fd No.6402980
>>6402744
By dark corners, I don't mean nefarious. I just mean unpopular, niche. He's clearly aware of a few cutting edge areas before their time. More importantly, he's aware of them before most people, thus he can carve his name into places where perhaps he has no business. Those that come later have little basis. His "17" degrees are bullshit, but "17" gets an non-thinkinganon all boner'd up? Gay.
He's definitely NOT the most vocal proponent keeping Bitcoin Bitcoin. That's an opinionated statement on both terms. If the guy is Satoshi, prove it. He doesn't seem able to…And if he wants to keep his baby, why did he abandon it into the hands of others? There are great ideas out there…and monetary policy is a conversation, not a dictatorship. Whoever he is, fuck him. Some of these ideas outside of him are good ideas that should be discussed, not immediately and unilaterally dismissed as he does…every.fucking.time. #fulllibertariantard
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a4a9a5 No.6403245
>>6402980
>If the guy is Satoshi, prove it.
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61ee70 No.6404429
>>6402980
Not that it really matters, but which of his 17 degrees are you claiming to be bullshit?
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a1908e No.6405184
>IN GOD WE TRUST
As you continue to discuss less than important matters regarding crypto and acting like the fallen angel (Wall St.) the moment of truth continues to get closer and closer.
144,000 - 132,245 = 11,755
The longer you stay in the utterly debased digital casino the more you guarantee your fate of getting devoured by it's downfall.
Again, only cash or precious metals in hand will get you the new notes. You are running out of time.
Once 144,000 views is achieved the balance will glide towards perfection and you will be locked out.
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1c7220 No.6410916
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5c3cc6 No.6411018
>>6403245
Should read: "Never Interfere with America While It's Being Destroyed From Within."
There is no stopping the destruction that is coming WW.
Trump is driving the final nails in the coffin. Leave the border open & go play golf.
Remind you of anyone?
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5695d2 No.6411043
Regarding gold. Here are some people that need help. Last chance for the gold miners in Oregon to have their case heard by the Supreme Court.
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832505 No.6411399
>>6411043
Doesn't this just mean you have to buy mineral rights to your land? I think this just opens a tax opportunity that most states already have had for centuries
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5695d2 No.6411644
>>6411399
No, the western states are banning the equipment the miners use eg. motorized dredges. making mining unprofitable for small mines and hobbyist weekend types and family's on vacation. The states allege environmental harms they cannot prove. The claims are not the issue.
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5695d2 No.6411750
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>6411399
This is what they banned. P.s. This man passed away 2 years ago.
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4d8fd1 No.6419340
Mcafee's friendship with [Jihan Wu] makes a lot more sense now.
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6e40fd No.6420009
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a4a9a5 No.6431392
>>6420009
>"I like money"
Every single ICO?
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13b221 No.6441843
https://www.wdtn.com/news/local-news/rare-coins-released-in-cincinnati-could-be-worth-around-50/1947821395
I can't find anything on this coin but the interview mentions how people look for silver quarters and this is the only other quarter with 'actual value'.
Anyone want to help research what ratio of metals West Point is minting?
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0cb0b3 No.6454250
>>6441843
Regular mix only value is rarity/collector. I called and spoke to a WPMint rep
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95d50d No.6455279
CSW proves he is SN.
BTC begins its final descent to ashes.
BSV rises like a phoenix.
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6e40fd No.6455430
https://safenetforum.org/t/the-2019-safe-network-roadmap-project-plan/28533
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b6ece1 No.6467739
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>6455279
Oops. Anyone who follows a shill's financial advice is gonna lose.
Until this swamp is drained, THERE IS ONLY BITCOIN.
Which is my segue to this blast-from the past. Remember when Creepy John Carvalho (@BitcoinErrorLog) had that "explosive" interview with Creepy Roger Ver? Ya, about that.
IT WAS FAKE. ACTORS ACTING.
Think about it. Use logic and you begin to see through the shills shilling their shilly shit. All designed to undermine Bitcoin, the Only Coin.
Dividing and conquering. Diluting and disrupting. Don't fall for the lies.
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af4b65 No.6468874
Why hasn't Cardano ADA been mentioned in these damn threads?
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0c73f2 No.6469234
Here are some images in my possession that I have not really made public. I was warned by someone high up in the DS not to reveal these but in the end I thought to myself, 'Fuck them. They don't scare me anymore.'
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6e40fd No.6469298
>>6468874
cause Charles Hoskins is a shill
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6e40fd No.6469337
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f34161 No.6469640
Can someone relay this message to other anons and possibly Q.
Why does Q never talk about the Rockefellers? How are they going unscathed, unmentioned? They are the world first billionaires and the riches family that has ever lived. The rockerfethers have been notorious NWO proponents. Does anyone else find this weird that Q has never mentioned them?
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766864 No.6470399
>>6469640
Q544 and Q295. Other posts have implied link to rockefellers as well
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c37dcd No.6470664
>>6469234
those are some of the ugliest things i have seen.
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c37dcd No.6470670
>>6469640
The rockefellers were actually foot soldiers for the rothschilds in europe.
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4db1f3 No.6471399
4/25: Bitfinex and Tether face SDNY investigation over $850B
5/6: Binance hacked for $40M, "pauses" withdrawals for one week
5/8: Facebook reverses ban on cryptocurrency ads
5/11: BTC up nearly 20% in one week, nearly 100% in 3 months
Are we repeating the winter of 2017?
Or the winter of 2013?
Is this a coordinated FOMO meltup to the ultimate exit scam?
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6e40fd No.6471642
>>6469640
This guy is shitposting THIS same/very similar message across multiple threads with timestamp confirms, FYI.
If zhe wants to know, zhe can ask Q zherself!
Shillary.
>>6471399
>5/8: Facebook reverses ban on cryptocurrency ads
Bad idea, but they need the money. Good thing is that, hopefully, new projects will have trouble getting money like before. As institutional money floods in, it will signal that the future markets are much less interested in playing hot potato with shitcoins.
BTC is tiptoeing into a new long-term move up, but likely a pullback from here short-term…
Hodl.
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af4b65 No.6472872
>>6469298
It is Charles Hoskinson and he is not a shill.
Babylonian Captivity of Cardano has ended
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=AEP84LIBBuU
https://twitter.com/IOHK_Charles/status/1062387955392753669
cross reference with H.W. death
Lagarde
http://hooktube.com/watch?v=zG4IUHVN7bM
Who are the disruptors?
Structure change
Centralized
2
Decentralized
When Shelley?
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af4b65 No.6472968
>>6472872
Cardano in Davos
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=90o-lty-M9g
Bldrbrg will have their hands full this summer…
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6e40fd No.6475372
>>6472872
>Babylonian Captivity of Cardano has ended
So…you're saying the Jews are now headed toward the Red Sea?
Charles is smart as hell. He was one of the key people I listened to early on. As time went on, he put himself into the shill box. I can't believe that you are promoting Lagarde as some kind of crypto leader. GTFO, seriously.
"Guardians of Cardano", "Social contract", "assign new board members", "Swiss Foundation" = centralized as fuck
"Now, personally, I'd like to see some more democracy…like 7 more board members" - Charles Hoskinson, Nov. 14, 2018
>>6472968
>Davos
>Bldrbrg
Enough said.
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7d4d8c No.6475508
>>6469234
"Series 2009"
Funny that it includes the pyramid, Mexico and Canada. If this is the currency there's no reset, cabal is still in control
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a1908e No.6475726
>>6475508
This is not the currency. Only new notes coming and these are not the ones.
-No Pyramids
-Forces the FR to clean up the mess
Speaking of which:
144,000 - 133,478 = 10,522
#80526b
With or without you…..
I'll give you a bit more of a nudge if all the others weren't enough:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6997685/Sweden-tells-citizens-squirrel-away-hard-cash-beds-case-cyber-attack.html
Even the Swedish know now. They literally wrote the book on cashless digital utopias and now they say hold cash? They smell the new notes from a mile away.
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c0cf48 No.6478675
One thing that needs to be said, is that although our world is filled with examples to the contrary, on paper, communism does not necessarily preclude democracy. Although those who have adopted it have gone on to make an utter mess of themselves, if properly executed, it is as viable a system as any.
Communism has this negative connotation in our common parlance, and it primarily stems from the way in which many communist societies have fallen to the wayside in overall prosperity. While it is easy to blame the system, it is infinitely more accurate to blame the circumstances. The Soviet Union, for example, was drawn into a long Cold War against an enemy that was simply capable of out-producing, out-purchasing, and all around out-fighting it. It went broke fighting a war that it had no business fighting.
Communism has also, repeatedly, been a vessel by which a few powerful can rule over the many poor. It is identical to capitalism in this regard, but capitalism seemingly has a better publicist.
In a communist society, if you are poor and your neighbour is poor, you are destined for a life of poverty.
In a capitalist society, if you are poor and your neighbour is poor, you are also destined for a life of poverty - but you're lead to believe things can be different. And while they can, that same astronomically unlikely chance is the same chance a person in a communist country has. Just like you can strike it rich becoming a movie star, or oil tycoon in a capitalist society, you can beat the odds and become a party big shot in a modern-day communist society.
The overall problem is no matter which way you go, our hearts and minds are still very much obsessed with stuff. One system promotes this obsession while the other abhors it. The difference being, the one that purportedly abhors it secretly obsesses with it too, because that's just how human beings are in this day and age. And it works against it. Capitalism is meant to reward greed, but communism is meant to stop greed. Ergo, if too many people get greedy in a communist society, the entire system goes to shit.
If we look at the Star Trek universe – in particular, the Federation – we see a quasi-communist society that works rather well.
Unfortunately, the truth behind that, is that with technological advances that create food out of air, that society has no 'have nots' - at least, not like ours does now.
And the sad truth of it is, until we do come up with that sort of technology, the system that favours the greedy will be the system that works the best…
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1c0ee5 No.6478909
>>6478675
You aren't thinking this entirely through.
The Star Trek utopia isn't "communism" because the Star Trek utopia introduces a totally "foreign" concept that communism can't (doesn't want to) entertain:
ABUNDANCE.
Star Trek's utopia is NOT communism, it is the natural result of society with ABUNDANCE. Free energy. Replicators. Unlimited technology.
There is NO NEED for a central authority to determine who gets the LIMITED supplies in Star Trek, because in the Star Trek utopia THERE IS NO LIMIT ON SUPPLY.
meanwhile, communism wants to ENSURE there is a never-ending LIMIT ON SUPPLY because it is that POVERTY that ensures the centralized power keeps its control.
In Communism, the centralized power decides who gets what, who eats, who lives. The entire communist game is dependent on limited resources,w hich is why [they] try to perpetuate poverty. By cutting off coal and gas and turning us towards unreliable wind and solar. Any way, [they] can starve us and keep us dependent, the communist will embrace.
The utopia of ABUNDANCE might be closer than we realize though. Suppressed energy technologies, cures, true freedom might be within our reach. And at that point, communism is TRULY FINISHED.
FUCK COMMUNISM.
Think about it.
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7d4d8c No.6481855
>>6475726
Questions:
-If you have old notes you can get one old dollar for one new dollar, nothing, or a different ratio (deflation's ~1290/Old:1/New)?
-If you have an unsecured credit card with $100,000 debt. It'll be deflated more or less than cash?
-If you have a mortgage will the debt balance deflate more or less than the principle?
-If you have a car loan, will the debt balance deflate more or less than the car value will?
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6e40fd No.6491503
>>6478675
spoken like a true leftist academic cuck.
BTC Dominance: 60.3%
put that in your communism.
>communism is meant to stop greed
Communism is meant to reward greed just as much but with social(communal) currency. Don't be an idiot.
>If we look at the Star Trek universe – in particular, the Federation – we see a quasi-communist society that works rather well.
AKA
"Communism works well in the movies! We should go full retard!"
Again, cuck…and a dumb cuck at that.
"Computer" is the benevolent dictator of the Enterprise…quietly in the background.
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a1908e No.6491539
>>6481855
-Old notes in hand will get you one dollar for one new dollar. They must be in hand. Digital FRNs will not get you the new notes.
-The digital fiat forgery machine will be shut down.
-The digital fiat forgery machine will be shut down.
-The digital fiat forgery machine will be shut down.
Please do not take the last three responses lightly. They are not in jest and the other side will not be like this side. Going forward (post new note release) you will have to earn your keep. No free rides only recognition for tuning into the most based frequencies.
While you may craft scenarios in your head to run up the digital debt in an attempt to get "stuff" you will wish you hadn't done so when the changes occur. If your mind isn't already prepared to take responsibility for ALL of your actions you might as well slip right back into digital utopia and go all in on crypto or something just as foolish.
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a1908e No.6491600
>>6475726
>I'll give you a bit more of a nudge if all the others weren't enough:
Yet another….
"Now, the industry trade group is preparing for the latest iteration of its test — dubbed Quantum Dawn — this fall."
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/10/are-financial-advisors-prepared-for-cyber-attacks.html
Cash or precious metals in hand. Absolutely no substitutes.
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7d4d8c No.6492098
>>6491539
So by your own account, it's a better investment to hoard cash than metals. That way for $1300 I get $1300 instead of $50 (gold).
You also don't seem to have an answer for people that invested in their home. If they owe 5% or 95%, the debt is a forgery and disappears?
I'm not worried about buying things I always wanted, I only want to own my own home and deciding if taking a mortgage and using my cash today on a down payment is better than hoarding cash or investing in metals to get a house after the crash.
You keep writing 144k, but there's no date to plan around and every 'penny' counts.
I like working, I don't like supporting bad habits including keeping a bad job/company, so I'm looking to conserve my savings so it'll transfer the best way possible
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95d50d No.6492696
>>6492098
You actually expect someone LARP'ing on the internet to answer ALL of your questions and with specifics?
He is just cherry picking the easy ones that can be answered the most vaguely.
This is entertainment.
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7d4d8c No.6493369
>>6492696
It's all entertainment until something tangible happens.
Look to get information and be your own judge, or be like everyone else and look to enjoy life and hope you don't see what kills you.
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6e40fd No.6494470
https://bitcoinist.com/this-latest-who-created-bitcoin-theory-is-the-craziest-one-yet/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Le_Roux
This was entertaining as fuck.
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6e40fd No.6502596
I was reading about the Bitcoin ETF process reset. The first "last date" for the SEC to make a decision is October 13. October 13, 1917 was the day of the Miracle of Fatima in Portugal. See the Vactican Fatima Letters prophecies. The event is also known as the Miracle of the Sun. Think Apollo, think Trump's apartment ceiling. Think multiple financial organizations competing as custodians for Bitcoin. Think structure.
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85ba6c No.6503157
>>6502596
I'll watch that date.
Not a big believer in ETFs for Bitcoin, personally, however.
Definitely something big is coming to begin reforming our financial system, and Bitcoin might well play some part in that.
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6e40fd No.6503290
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5c919e No.6516131
CRYPTO IS INFILTRATED
Did you know that Dustin Nemos, the fake anon on YouTube, also pretends to be Austin from Altoin Daily?
Dustin changes his voice using an audio filter to try to disguise his identity.
Dustin is paid by the Cabal to provide disinfo to the Q movement and to cryptocurrency investors, trying to drive people off a cliff.
Not only are their voices the same (just listen to the video) but they even have the same name except for the first letter!
[D] USTIN
[A] USTIN
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db1694 No.6516911
>>6516131
Disinfo? I've done pretty well with Q and XRP as well.
Disinfo seems to be coming from YOU….!
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a1908e No.6518206
>>6492696
We're under 10k now.
144,000 - 134,081 = 9,919
How much are you willing to gamble at this point?
There is no vagueness about:
-The digital fiat forgery machine will be shut down.
-NIAC
-JP Morgan silver locked and loaded
-One of the most cashless societies in the world warning citizens about cyber attacks and the importance of having cash
I could go on and on more than I already have in previous breads but your inability to let go of what is about to be the past is only going to be your issue to deal with in the end.
>>6492098
Metals are going to be better to have for transfer as things will happen for you faster. Cash for new notes may throw some delays your way as the new note distributor will have to find metals to acquire on your behalf. At first it should be quick but as supply (metals) dries out FAST it might delay your transaction significantly.
As far as future home purchases I would let the dust settle first…
The wick is lit.
#80526b
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059585 No.6519913
>>6518206
~500 oz of silver enough?
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71b137 No.6520792
>>6516131
Of course crypto has been infiltrated
Bitcoin is the only one that scares (them)
That's why (they) tried so hard to change it
And diluted it with a divide and conquer tactic by propping up a market of thousands of shitcoins
And (they) will fail
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95d50d No.6521584
>>6520792
https://medium.com/@craig_10243/satoshi-nakamoto-a7c4cf21253e
Satoshi Nakamoto is an amalgamation of 富永 仲基 (Tominaga Nakamoto) and Ash Ketchum (サトシ; Satoshi).
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95d50d No.6522378
>>6520792
https://vault.fbi.gov/nikola-tesla/Nikola%20Tesla%20Part%2001%20of%2003/view
https://vault.fbi.gov/nikola-tesla/Nikola%20Tesla%20Part%2002%20of%2003/view
https://vault.fbi.gov/nikola-tesla/Nikola%20Tesla%20Part%2003%20of%2003/view
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a15e8f No.6522442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSyNDbpBavU
"Governments need to maintain public access to records, so there are a number of government projects and agencies that are open to placing government and public records on blockchain and want a scalable secure blockchain to do that on so we talked to them about doing that on Bitcoin SV"
"When it comes to the monetary aspect…governments around the world are considering central bank digital currencies…it makes information about monetary policy open, transparent, auditable, and can increase public confidence and market confidence in what monetary policies governments set based upon any tokenized central bank digital currencies that they would do on a public blockchain like BSV"
They get it.
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20982c No.6522447
>>6518206
Have re-read your posts since Bread #2 & have a reasonably firm grasp on what you're suggesting. However, am curious to know whether this strategy applies only to "cash/pm's in hand" or whether that may also apply to precious metal IRA's.
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d1a9a7 No.6522935
>>6491539
So you are saying its a bad idea to have a loan to purchase metals? or that its bad to rack up credit card debt for metals?
please elaborate
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a4a9a5 No.6523208
>>6522442
Thanks for the link anon. This part (video related) stood out to me. I think Jimmy has been fooled by how "amazing" the zucc's are…I shudder to think of other possible explanations.
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1873c5 No.6523254
>>6522935
No rack up CC debit(unsecured), go belly up and keep the metals, fuck'm.
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1873c5 No.6523260
>>6523254
Call it "The Fed Hedge".
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6e40fd No.6523393
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-03-08/the-gazillion-dollar-standoff-over-two-high-frequency-trading-towers
https://www.wsj.com/articles/first-speed-bump-coming-to-u-s-futures-markets-11557924822
Gold/Silver HFT speed bump
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a9f672 No.6523940
>>6516131
definitely the same person & now its got me questioning about all the other ones on YT too
>>6520792
now its got me questioning about all my shitcoins. i thought monero & dash was going to buy me a mansion but maybe their not
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6e40fd No.6531252
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d79e1d No.6532396
>>6531252
Bitcoin is probably part of The Plan somehow.
But there are a few BIG hurdles to overcome first.
Until then, price seems irrelevant to me. It could crash to $1K before coming back to claim its rightful place in the Global Financial System. Or maybe the bottom is in. But when the exchanges are all owned and controlled by the Illuminati, I don't really see how we can rely on visible price action.
I like gold better for stability. US dollars are nice. And some Bitcoin for the longer term, keeping in mind that The Plan is unclear to us.
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a1908e No.6532397
>>6519913
Everyone's case is unique. Things to consider:
-current standings (debt obligations)
-single or married with children
-things in your possesion
One thing to take into account is what would 500 oz get you in 1913? Work from there.
>>6522447
Anything in the digital domain is high risk. Act accordingly. I'll send you a link and then you decide just how rare "in hand" is…
https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12773.htm
Physical Currency supply / Population =
>>6522935
There will be accountability on the other side of this. Keep that in mind. One's capabilities in the present will be a reflection of your future self. Remember only the most based running the new notes.
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a1908e No.6532439
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>6532396
>The Plan is unclear to us.
Listen to the end. It's called a trash can…
1+3 = B
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_13
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95d50d No.6532599
Extremely cryptic comment.
Concealment leads to secrecy, secrecy leads to lie.
Order from Chaos = (((Freemasons)))
If you want the Truth, don't expect it from anyone who tells it to you wrapped up in a puzzle.
Truth is simple, blunt and straight to the point.
Here is a simple Truth that your mind will fight to believe but your Spirit will know to be true.
Every single person you have ever seen on a television, is a controlled actor.
From the News, Sporting Events, Reality Shows, etc…
All the way back to the very first airing of a television program.
It has all been an act put on by (((Freemasons)))
Simple, Blunt and Straight. Not cryptic.
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20982c No.6533181
>>6532397
>>6522447
While the precious metal IRA is invested in physical assets I've verified are in the depository, they're not "in hand"…but I get your point.
Appreciate the link & guidance.
o7
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6e40fd No.6534144
>>6532599
Books too. Some partial truths, some complete lies.
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6e40fd No.6536364
>>6534921 pb
>NUOVI World Order
>>6535022 pb
>^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^rmsoaf
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6e40fd No.6536640
>>6536364
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doge_of_Venice
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6e40fd No.6537234
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythia
The Pythia (/ˈpɪθiə/,[1] Ancient Greek: Πῡθίᾱ [pyːˈtʰi.aː]) was the name of the high priestess of the Temple of Apollo at Delphi who also served as the oracle, commonly known as the Oracle of Delphi.
The name Pythia is derived from Pytho, which in myth was the original name of Delphi. In etymology, the Greeks derived this place name from the verb, πύθειν (púthein) "to rot", which refers to the sickly sweet smell of the decomposition of the body of the monstrous Python after she was slain by Apollo.[2]
The Pythia was established at the latest in the 8th century BC,[3] and was widely credited for her prophecies inspired by being filled by the spirit of the god (or enthusiasmos), in this case Apollo. The Pythian priestess emerged pre-eminent by the end of 7th century BC and would continue to be consulted until the 4th century AD.[4] During this period the Delphic Oracle was the most prestigious and authoritative oracle among the Greeks, and she was without doubt the most powerful woman of the classical world. The oracle is one of the best-documented religious institutions of the classical Greeks. Authors who mention the oracle include Aeschylus, Aristotle, Clement of Alexandria, Diodorus, Diogenes, Euripides, Herodotus, Julian, Justin, Livy, Lucan, Nepos, Ovid, Pausanias, Pindar, Plato, Plutarch, Sophocles, Strabo, Thucydides and Xenophon.
Nevertheless, details of how the Pythia operated are missing as authors from the classical period (6th to 4th centuries BC) treat the process as common knowledge with no need to explain. Those who discussed the oracle in any detail are from 1st century BC to 4th century AD and give conflicting stories.[5] One of the main stories claimed that the Pythia delivered oracles in a frenzied state induced by vapours rising from a chasm in the rock, and that she spoke gibberish which priests interpreted as the enigmatic prophecies and turned them into poetic dactylic hexameters preserved in Greek literature.[6] This idea, however, has been challenged by scholars such as Joseph Fontenrose and Lisa Maurizio, who argue that the ancient sources uniformly represent the Pythia speaking intelligibly, and giving prophecies in her own voice.[7] Herodotus, writing in the fifth century BC describes the Pythia speaking in dactylic hexameters.[8][9]
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95d50d No.6549941
>>6455279
https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-creator-craig-s-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-granted-us-copyright-registrations-for-bitcoin-white-paper-and-code/
Part 1, complete.
I hope you were all listening.
Remember: Truth is Simple, Blunt and Straight to the point.
All these 'informants' concealing 'truth' within secrecy are lying to you.
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bdf8db No.6550058
https://cryptobriefing.com/us-grants-craig-wright-copyright-on-original-bitcoin-whitepaper/
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6e40fd No.6550963
>>6549941
>>6550058
Anyone can copyright anything.
He doesn't have to prove anything to get a copyright on the Satoshi whitepaper.
Do some basic homework. Damn.
We could just as easily conclude that he's doing this just to create weak evidence in his trial, just like the dems are subpoenaing people they have no jurisdiction over because the mere fact they do it makes them think they'll be able to support having standing in courts over some other issue at a later date…or like the Christopher Steele planting the dossier with the FBI and then leaking the dossier to Yahoo News and then the FBI using the Yahoo News "anonymous" source as evidence at the FISA court.
IT'S A FUCKING GAME!
Learn how it's played.
At best, he's fishing for the real Satoshi to come out and defend such acts, particularly if Craig starts to abuse innocent people over copyright violations or whatever else.
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991c4b No.6552115
https://www.cashtechnews.com/2019/05/21/tether-says-it-invested-some-of-its-reserves-into-bitcoin-and-other-assets/
"Crypto" is a manipulated circular pump and dump scam.
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fee07d No.6552270
>>6532397
Well, seeing that silver was .50 cents an oz in 1913, and according to your cpi inflation calculator that's 13$ in today's dollars, if we went back to the 1913 system then you would be losing money if you bought silver at current pricing…..
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46f258 No.6553617
>>6552115
Definitely crypto is 100% a pump and dump scam. Or should we say 99%. All these shitcoins (and shit-exchanges) were designed to rob the people and destroy bitcoin, the original invention introduced by the Alliance as backstop for the global financial reset.
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46f258 No.6553664
>>6550963
>>6549941
>>6550058
CSW is an agent for the deepstate. he was paid to pretend to be CSW and the [australian government] might have even been in on the game. all to undermine confidence in the bitcoin infrastructure. every time there is a major scandal that undermines crypto, the deepstate has a party. the deepstate wants everyone to believe that crypto can't survive without them. the deepstate wants everyone to believe that only with the "backing of a central banking authority" can "blockchain" achieve its incredible potential. the opposite is true, of course. but the deepstate doesn't want you to understand that and they created CSW as one of many evil actors, along with jihan wu, charlie lee, roger ver, mike novogratz, john mcafee, mike lee, etc, etc, etc. the deepstate has been freaking out about bitcoin's potential to destroy their banking cabal for ten years now.
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46f258 No.6553687
>>6537234
blow me.
no one needs you.
we already have bitcoin.
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46f258 No.6553715
>>6523208
shudder. jimmy is a fraud. they all are.
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95d50d No.6553723
>>6553664
Dig deeper throughout all 4 breads.
There have been many convincing arguments of CSW being closely tied to Q Group and No Such Agency.
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613b8e No.6558046
>>6550963
The person that can move that initial wallet should be able to contest any copyrights.
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a1908e No.6563766
>>6552270
You're dismissing the fact that in 1913 1 dollar was worth 1 dollar. You're also dismissing the "London Fix" and the fact that coinage back in that time was only 90% silver. I will agree though that the system wasn't quite right at that time. A lack of balance due to purity and poor vision. Given that London was fixing the silver price I think it's safe to say that someone didn't want the US to have a safe and sound bimetalic currency system. I'll let you figure out the history because there is plenty of information about that.
Fast forward to today and what do we see? Coinage that is .999 fine, 1 dollar face value, and that pesky little London fix. Two out of three knocked out. 1 last hurdle to overcome. I could go on and on about blatant precious metals price manipulation but I'll let you google that on your own.
If only the day traitors would hang up their hats and admit defeat. Unfortunately, it's in their DNA to suck blood till the last drop before reluctantly admitting that food has run out.
Enter the balance and how 1 dollar 1913 = $26.09 as of April 2019. If you have been following along you might have noticed that gold is locked and loaded as I have mentioned. Palladium is now coming down from it's lofty heights. The other two metals (silver and platinum) seem to have a new stubbornness about them. The traitors must be worried about the 144,000. They should be as they have been inked. Regardless of the tricks they know now that time is almost up as we sit at 134,871 views and counting. The controlled burn worked like a charm.
Enjoy the new chart of the horsemen and witness just how shaken they have become after Pt jumped only $100. Keep your hands on the train tracks.
Also, take note of the historic gold/silver ratio.
https://www.macrotrends.net/1441/gold-to-silver-ratio
See something interesting? Notice the two distinct fixing mechanisms. Also, witness the reluctance to bring that ratio back down where it needs to be. Starts to make you wonder what would have happened if crypto never came to the market. Can't help but to think something is trying so desperately to delay the inevitable. There is about to be a new fix in town and it won't be floating any more.
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95d50d No.6564031
>>6563766
So you want Anons to all run out and buy Platinum, while holding physical Federal Reserve Notes in hand.
What is so difficult about saying it like a human being?
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95d50d No.6564050
>>6563766
Also nice (((freemason))) dubs
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6e40fd No.6564982
>>6558046
How much of that initial wallet would you like to see moved?
Be creative.
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fe8631 No.6566343
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151a82 No.6568283
>>6566343
While I like the number q(17) said gold will end the fed. Unless we're saying csw is with nsa and made a Ponzi coin to trap ds
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6e40fd No.6568787
New Exchange. Small float/volume, but notable because Maidsafe, unlike other coins, has always refused to pay their way on to exchanges & Bittrex is rare in that it adds new coins using it's own liquidity without the coin addition model of charging the projects. This is what happens when there are mature companies and real innovation. A taste of things to come?
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6e40fd No.6568814
>>6568283
Bitcoin and gold aren't mutually exclusive.
>>6566343
How about 0.55451711 BTC
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6e40fd No.6569673
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Swalwell pumping crypto? Accepting BTC?
Break in the ranks?
Whatever is going on here, one thing is for sure: crypto adoption (building up the ecosystem and the enforcement capabilities) is the only solution to the illicit uses of crypto. A non-approach or a half-ass approach wouldn't dent it, and it isn't going back in the box.
Thought experiment: criminal pedos trafficking with crypto to push crypto adoption because they need laundered campaign donations. Knowingly or not, the dems push the Trump agenda to destroy the FED. Who knows…
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819abf No.6570385
>>6569673
16.66% redpilled and 83.33% cucked
>>Announced Thursday by blockchain firm The White Company, which is providing the tech for the crypto donations, Swalwell will accept six supported cryptocurrencies – bitcoin, ether, bitcoin cash, stellar, bitcoin SV and The White Company’s native token White standard (WSD) – on a dedicated web page.
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93894b No.6570860
>>6569673
1 of the few economic studies of bitcoin regulation published in the peer-reviewed world modeled a situation where banks regardless of stance they come to adopt will remain silent on regulations b/c it may signal to regulators that may not be bothering with the matter that banks give the tech credence and the hi silent dragging inevatibility out as long as possible to milk their position for what its worth in that remaining time
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a5c2b0 No.6590822
>>6405184
>>6475726
>>6491539
>>6491600
>Again, only cash or precious metals in hand will get you the new notes. You are running out of time.
You've said $1_inhand_OLD → $1_inhand_NEW via the new note distributors but warned such an exchange may take more time (compared to exchanging AG/PD/AU/PT for new notes) as the new note distributor may have to source the metals on your behalf.
Assuming one has time (?) to wait for the metal to be sourced, the old to new ratio stays $1_old : $1_new for old-cash-in-hand, no meaningful limit on the amount of old-to-new notes one can exchange, and the face value of 1oz of the four horsemen [AG ($1), PD ($25), AU ($50), PT ($100)] reflect how many new notes they are worth, why bother at all with bullion in favor of sitting on physical cash?
Yeah, it may take longer to exchange to the new notes but the bottom line appears to remain the same: it only costs $1_inhand_OLD to acquire $1_inhand_NEW.
1oz of anon's choice PT today goes for ~$889 brining the cost per new dollar to ~$8.89 meaning one is paying almost nine times more for a quicker processing/exchange time.
Maths…
$889 (cost $889_OLD) → $889_NEW
1oz PT (cost $889_OLD) → $100_NEW
https://www.jmbullion.com/2019-1-oz-american-platinum-eagle-coin/
Honest questions here:
Am I correct in understanding you are saying the convenience factor of being able to quickly acquire new notes vs. potentially waiting is worth a 9x premium today?
If the goal is to stack today to acquire the most new notes tomorrow, and setting aside the timing question, old notes seem to be the best to stack to get the new notes…(?)
>While you may craft scenarios in your head to run up the digital debt in an attempt to get "stuff" you will wish you hadn't done so when the changes occur.
Hard time seeing how this pans out - here's where I'm stumbling:
Anon exercises a $10,000 balance transfer from a credit card (or other unsecured debt vehicle) to himself under a promotion for 0% interest for 24 months and negligible processing fees. $10,000 is deposited into anon's checking account, is withdrawn in physical old-FRNs, and the old-FRNs are then held in a secure location.
>IT'S HABBENING!
>Digital forgery machine shutdown
Anon takes $10k in physical old-FRNs to new note distributor, turns it in, new note distributor either gives anon $10k in new notes or provides anon with tracking info and receipt, pending sourcing of required metals. New note distributor delivers $10k of new notes to anon at a later date once metals are sourced.
The worst case is anon now has $10k of new notes to repay $10k of unsecured debt, assuming the unsecured debt was not deflated. The upside is the unsecured debt is deflated requiring less than $10k new notes to payoff.
Any guidance you can offer to help me expand my thinking here if I'm missing something?
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b363a3 No.6592494
>>6570860
If "in hand" is so important as opposed to in an FDIC insured bank account, are we in fact advocating a bank run?
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d75635 No.6592925
>>6590822
I've asked these very questions and got >>6518206
My only guess is banks will get a front of new bills and likely trade metals for bills first. Then when they have enough metals to get more new bills from the treasury they mix distribution up between metal trades and old notes. As time goes on you might wait weeks to get to the point in line where you can trade your bills for new notes. By that time maybe inflation hits the old notes, if inflation will never hit, it certainly seems like it's best to hoard cash and maybe a couple ounces in platinum for the next best exchange rate. But if inflation is at risk that means metals should also rise in value, at that point you might wish you held a few oz of each
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a5c2b0 No.6593351
>>6592925
>>6592494
>banks will get a front of new bills and likely trade metals for bills first
Accepting metals will require banks to verify/process metals. Guessing this is easier for the BoAs / Wells / JPMC / etc., but exponentially harder for the smaller guys and FCUs. Certainly not impossible but also not something that can be done overnight either PLUS banks/FCUs will need time to get their shit together for this and TIME is one of the key advantages one gets by holding metals over cash-in-hand.
>By that time maybe inflation hits the old notes
For the digital side you'd declare a bank holiday, do whatever adjustments are required to translate the OLD values into the NEW values (i.e. divide all balances by 25…so if you had $100,000 in an account prior you'd then have $4,000 afterwards), do whatever other macro adjustments are needed, if any (i.e. use FDIC/NCUA to credit some/all of $96,000 face-value loss back to the account).
Everyone's digital holdings are brought into the new dollars at once and since the digital side carries the majority of the transaction volume, the majority of people can still conduct der biddness with a degree of normalcy.
…where we went one, we went all.
Anything not in the digital realm is in the real world where we've got $1,700 billion of currency in circulation.
https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12773.htm
>$1,700 billion in circulation as of January 31, 2019.
…100%
>Federal Reserve notes ($1,655.2 billion)
…97.4%
>U.S. notes ($0.2 billion)
…0.01%
>currency no longer issued ($0.2 billion)
…0.01%
>coins outstanding ($47.2 billion).
…2.7%
If it is true old notes and coins can be exchanged to new notes/coins at a 1 : 1 ratio, then ~$1,700b of metal is required to support the $1,700b of new notes/coins to be potentially exchanged with the old ones. This is in addition to whatever the metal requirement is to support the new-digital-notes-translated-at-[???]-rate-from-the-old-digital-notes PLUS whatever other macro adjustments you want to do (e.g. FDIC/NCUA payments).
Not saying $1,700b is a small number but I do think it is dwarfed by the metal required to support the digital old → new adjustment, even if such an adjustment is not done at a 1 : 1 ratio. In other words, my suspicion is circulating cash is small beans in the big picture and having old notes/coins honored at their face value is not that big a stretch.
As for inflation, if the new notes are locked to AgPdAuPt, and AgPdAuPt are locked in to avoid inflation, AND if $1_OLD → $1_NEW, the value of the old notes will shoot through the roof.
Take away I keep coming back to is stack physical currency - plus a little Pt - and keep a few 0% BT checks on hand…
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a9a3c2 No.6594582
Why would the CIA perform an operation like operation cyclone? Where we foster Islamic extremist in Afghanistan to fight USSR in Pakistan in the stead of anti-extremist rebels?
Chaos. A nation in chaos is morally justified to occupy later than a sovereign one. Planning ahead. Operation Cyclone is not the first act of its kind. Cuba has been plagued by us with wars and trade wars sens the late 1800s. Why? because we wanted them. If we can't own it, then we control it with money.
This is the global bankings policy. This is how the economic world turns. Money is power.
I know you all know this. I just wanted to give a monologue of the inspiration for this art I made. Enjoy ~
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c22a02 No.6596407
Soros backs Goldmoney.
And then there's the One Eye Symbolism.
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6e40fd No.6599160
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. @2:45 re: MIT
Already happening @ MIT Media Lab with Tim Berners-Lee, Solid, and their relationship with Maidsafe.
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6e40fd No.6599210
>>6593351
>AgPdAuPt
Pick one. Gold. Multi pegs with metals that have strange properties, distributions, and use cases allows for the same bullshit of manipulated arbitrage with forex and carry we have now. It was part of the big problem with the Gold:Silver fixed ratio to the dollar. Not a good idea. Just let the everything else float.
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4edd76 No.6599494
wouldn’t take much shift to moon 🌝 crypto’s
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a1908e No.6600555
>>6590822
>Any guidance you can offer to help me expand my thinking here if I'm missing something?
How does one become based?
Why do you need physical currency?
When you answer these two questions (in order) honestly you will have no more questions. I understand this sounds vague and dodgy but until you have this figured out on your own you will not be ready for new notes.
A money for nothing attitude on this side will carry over to the other side. Put an end to it now or be sniffed out by the new system later and suffer the consequences. I have a feeling anyways that if you try this now they will already be waiting for your shenanigans.
>>6590822
>You've said $1_inhand_OLD → $1_inhand_NEW via the new note distributors
One silver dollar will get you one new note dollar.
$26.09 in old notes will get you one new note dollar today per: https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
THE FACE VALUE ON THE BULLION IS THE STANDARD TRANSFER.
INFLATION CALCULATOR IS SECONDARY TRANSFER MECHANISM FOR TRADING IN OLD NOTES FOR NEW NOTES.
I do apologize for leading you to believe that one old dollar (FRN) = one new dollar. This is only correct if you are holding the SILVER dollar (which is legal currency btw).
I should have stated the answer to:
"-If you have old notes you can get one old dollar for one new dollar, nothing, or a different ratio"
like:
-Old notes in hand that equal the value of one 1913 dollar per the inflation calculator will get you one new dollar.
Are you clear on this now?
>>6593351
>Take away I keep coming back to is stack physical currency - plus a little Pt
All positions and strategies will vary from person to person. Mental awareness plays a big part in this.
>>6593351
>Everyone's digital holdings are brought into the new dollars at once and since the digital side carries the majority of the transaction volume, the majority of people can still conduct der biddness with a degree of normalcy.
Business will be based on the other side and by today's definition will be the opposite of normal.
All digital holdings will be declared vaporized. I'm not sure that some of you are taking the time to actually realize this.
Your lack of urgency around the statement "the digital fiat forgery machine will be shut down" is troubling.
Would you buy a stock at the all time high? Take a look at the world population chart. Would you buy into a paradigm crafted by a debased population that is currently sitting at an all time high? You have to "find support" before the crash.
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a1908e No.6600568
>>6599210
The new note system will be quad metallic. The days of the float are soon to be over. Don't get caught with your pants down on this one as it will be critical to your economic survival to accept this.
>>6599494
"Give back to her as she has given; pay her back double for what she has done. Pour her a double portion from her own cup."
-Revelations 18:6
This only ends badly.
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ccfa51 No.6600650
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f5069f No.6601025
Q is controlled by a bunch of Jews the only faceless Anon I will ever trust again is the Barney Anon/Purple Anon. Feast on these breads and you will never hunger again brothers. Unlike Q the Jew posting literal classified sites in a war zone is actual proof. Q is a fraud if you care about any of this you need to read these threads.
http://archive.is/SA4tw
http://archive.is/BdNwc
http://archive.is/uc8aD
https://archive.is/CUgtw
https://archive.is/7KTWl
https://archive.is/7saRZ
https://archive.is/rzcO8
https://archive.fo/RGVuO
https://archive.is/fdtxJ
http://archive.is/m0Fx9
https://archive.fo/ZRwqE
https://archive.is/1xlft
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d75635 No.6602583
>>6600555
So it's not old notes as of the cutover, you mean old notes like pre1971 when they stopped printing silver dollars? So 1oz of silver or silver dollars likely more than 50 years old for a new dollar, and the federal notes we use today will become old notes at a ratio of 25:1 and anything you couldn't cash out after the bank run is wiped?
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a5c2b0 No.6603694
>>6600555
nice trips
>How does one become based?
Financially? Hold fixed, rock solid, inflation-proof assets that can ideally generate passive income. Create a solid financial base to build on vs. the shifting baseless morass we are currently in.
Philosophically? Figure out and verify shit for yourself. Don't do something only because everyone else is doing it. In God we trust.
>Why do you need physical currency?
Physical currency can still cary out its value exchange function if the digital world is offline.
>>6532397
>One's capabilities in the present will be a reflection of your future self. Remember only the most based running the new notes.
>>4819895
>Savers to be rewarded.
If savers are to be rewarded and ones capabilities now are to be reflected in their future selves how does this reconcile with those who have diligently saved via digital FRNs - e.g. someone with $250,000 in a CD held at a FDIC or NCUA institution?
If the digital ledger is to be wiped, our saver gets wiped. Far from being rewarded.
If the digital ledger is adjusted then our saver's balance goes from $250k USD → ~$10k XUSD, but presumably with the at least the same (or more) purchasing power. Certainly not as bad as being wiped, but a stretch to call it "rewarded".
BUT if "rewarded" is tied in (somehow) to one's current financial standing, this hints at other mechanisms in play.
>A money for nothing attitude on this side will carry over to the other side. Put an end to it now or be sniffed out by the new system later and suffer the consequences.
I (think?) I get part of this but still struggle with the rest. If the goal TODAY is to stack metals to trade in for the most new XUSD notes, then why would an anon NOT consider unsecured debt as a vehicle to do so - maths below
>$900 USD unsecured = 1oz Pt
>ITZ HABBENING
> ~$25 : $1 USD → XUSD adjustment
>$900 USD → $36 XUSD
>1oz Pt → $100 XUSD
>($36 XUSD) → payoff debt
>$67 XUSD remains
…so this is what I struggle with. Why is using cheap unsecured USD debt today (and then repaid) to stack metals detrimental?
Look if shenanigans are [somehow] to be frowned upon (in a shenanigan-proof future run by only the most based people) then I get the fact it needs to be based and simple. Cash in hand? New notes at [x] rate. Metals in hand? New notes at face value. Easy. Simple.
Neither the cash-in-hand nor precious-metals-in-hand involves sourcing/funding/acquisition/whatever. It's simple: you either have your ticket or you don't.
>>6491539
>…you will have to earn your keep. No free rides only recognition for tuning into the most based frequencies.
No free rides. Only XUSD for turning in metals or old notes…or so I think? What am I missing?
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cde21f No.6603787
>>6592494
i'd say yes. subversive isn't it. scared the shit out of me when I realized how it could be percieved by those in power. asshats of the extreme could just scream sedition since its in the same mass of gray shades. As a matter of fact thats been the response before look at liberty dollar guy. difference is with this tech all states are equally rendered impotent to the same effect and none can point fingers at another to deflect domestically. A rough analogy would be with respect to monopoly of force within domestic borders. If we all woke up one day to diy force fields or 3d printed kevlar it would be a similar blow albeit that example would raise more eyebrows and pearl clutchin swiftness more rapidly than woth monopoly to print currency
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9a7074 No.6603991
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9a7074 No.6604194
>>6603991
TRACK THE RESIGNATIONS
Josh Crumb, a co-founder of Soros-backed Goldmoney and Mene, resigned five months ago. But it was all done very quietly. Notice here it's buried in a corporate announcement from December. Crumb used to be featured prominently as a spokesperson for Goldmoney, so his (secretive) resignation is meaningful.
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9a7074 No.6604294
>>6603991
Some obscure news outlets seemed to get the news in March that Goldmoney was exiting their Bitcoin business. But customers didn't actually get an email notifying them to that effect until late April, giving customers very little time to react.
Customers who did choose to withdraw Bitcoin to a private wallet (rather than liquidate into cash) have been left holding the bag. Now Goldmoney is NOT returning customers' Bitcoin.
Given that Goldmoney is only (supposed to be) a safe-storage custodian of those Bitcoin, it should be very easy to return said Bitcoin. Goldmoney insisted they held customer Bitcoin in a secure cold-storage "wallet" offline. So every single customer Bitcoin with Goldmoney should be safely backed up on a 1-to-1 ratio in cold storage. Except for some storage fees payable to Goldmoney, the full transfer of customer Bitcoin should be easy to resolve now.
But no, Goldmoney is coming up with stall tactics, including cumping onerous and unreasonable KYC claims on the customer. A tactic to delay/prevent the customer from withdrawing their Bitcoin.
Which makes you think that Goldmoney doesn't even have the Bitcoin.
Note also that there has been a recent price run-up in Bitcoin, having more than doubled in a couple of months. Some speculate that there might be a run on Bitcoin as exchanges come under pressure of the authorities. Do any of these exchanges have the Bitcoin they claim to have? Is this a classic "run on the bank" only this time it's a run to get your Bitcoin out?
Gold might end the Fed, but Bitcoin might end Goldmoney.
Bitcoin is important.
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fb7529 No.6610769
TRACKING RESIGNATIONS
The Federal Reserve Bank of New York today announced that Simon Potter, executive vice president and head of the Markets Group, and Richard Dzina, executive vice president and head of the Financial Services Group, will be stepping down from their respective roles effective June 1, 2019.
The New York Fed will conduct a broad and thorough search for their successors.
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d1a9a7 No.6614443
>>6600555
>How does one become based?
>Why do you need physical currency?
"When you answer these two questions (in order) honestly you will have no more questions. I understand this sounds vague and dodgy but until you have this figured out on your own you will not be ready for new notes."
A money for nothing attitude on this side will carry over to the other side. Put an end to it now or be sniffed out by the new system later and suffer the consequences. I have a feeling anyways that if you try this now they will already be waiting for your shenanigans.
Based currency = pairs
pairs = +- precious metals & its equivalent in cash on hand?
ie 5k in silver + 5k cash in hand?
you become based by owning the base?
And like others have said, i still dont understand why a loan for being based is a bad idea, if you fully intend on working for that loan and have the ability to pay for it throughout its entirety (Regardless if this was happening or not) then i dont understand what is a bad idea about it?
if you did this with the full intention of never paying it back or seeing it through then obviously that would make sense. But the ones that can and would pay it off, why is it wrong?
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c37dcd No.6614723
>>6604294
Retards should shouldn't be relying on some 3rd party company to hold their own bitcoin, a simple offline wallet would have been sufficient.
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f265db No.6614878
>>6614723
A crime against a retard is still a crime.
Corruption is still corruption.
Evil is still evil.
$2 billion entrusted under their "safe storage" is a lot of innocent retards.
Are you with The People or are you with [them]?
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158381 No.6621789
>>6603991
Truther media is infiltrated and corrupted by The Cabal.
And one of the most prevalent truther mantras is that one price-suppression ends, SILVER is going to be even MORE important than gold. Their argument is interesting: the silver is actually largely consumed (in industry) unlike gold, and that its available above-ground scarcity is not properly reflected in its price (i.e., in the re-set, silver might right to meet gold's price, increasing many more multiples in value than gold, making silver-bugs richer). Certainly history supports the idea that in precious metal bull markets, the more volatile silver market can rise higher (proportionately) and faster than the more stable gold market.
This is still all possible. But…
I also wonder if this popular mantra is a head-fake. Keep in mind truther-media is designed to confuse and deceive as much as MSM is, just with a different target audience in mind (i.e., the prepper, the awakened, the rebel).
So, if you wanted to trick this rebellious audience of precious metal "bugs," might you not DISSUADE them from buying gold and pushing them into silver?
Note Q never said anything about silver, but he did say Gold is important somehow in "destroying" the Fed.
Note that the Illuminati never said that "silver is the skin of the gods." (The Satanic rituals sometimes use silver though.)
Note the rumors of "mono-atomic" gold possessing "miraculous" scientific properties, but there are not the same rumors for silver (we already know nano silver is an incredible antibiotic and anti-viral).
Note the Central Banks of the world are buying tons and tons of gold, but we don't hear about them buying tons and tons of silver.
Maybe silver is the "poor man's gold" for a reason–the Illuminati never wanted the poor man to own any gold at all.
I'm not saying silver might not go up a lot in value in the future. Maybe it's still going to offer even greater returns. But the evidence might suggest that gold is the most important.
Something to consider for silver bugs.
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d75635 No.6622352
>>6621789
>And one of the most prevalent truther mantras is that one price-suppression ends, SILVER is going to be even MORE important than gold. Their argument is interesting: the silver is actually largely consumed (in industry) unlike gold, and that its available above-ground scarcity is not properly reflected in its price (i.e., in the re-set, silver might right to meet gold's price, increasing many more multiples in value than gold, making silver-bugs richer).
Problem is without tech, most things would become extremely inefficient, mining included. Because of this they subsidize other things to keep silver cheap. If silver skyrocketed electronics wouldn't exist as we know it. IOT would become too expensive and we know 5G and IOT are high on their to-do list.
>Note Q never said anything about silver, but he did say Gold is important somehow in "destroying" the Fed.
The fed was a world central bank. The world previously used gold for p2b & b2b transactions (ie you move and want to use a new bank you'd cash out gold and buy into your new bank). Silver was always the currency of the commoner p2p.
The fed replaces the 'state' for country to country and business to business transactions. We only need gold to get rid of the fed. If NESARA/GESARA are true, we're going to a 4 metal system but still gold should be the most valuable metal considering the price and mined stock. Platinum might be twice as valuable but much less of it.
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d75635 No.6622372
>>6621789
Also gold was the skin of the gods, which the Illuminati got from the pharaohs, which they think they're descendants of.
Chase has been buying up silver the most, they shorted it since 2011 and went from zero physical holdings to the largest reserve in the world. One of their traders was charged with manipulation and the CNBC article said he claimed everyone knew about it and it was orders from the top.
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e5e6f4 No.6622736
>>6622352
>If silver skyrocketed electronics wouldn't exist as we know it.
Then why is 46 allowed to explode, just because there were huge reserves for auto-makers? Is Russia/SA/China a benefactor or victim of it? Or is 78 the real issue?
> Platinum might be twice as valuable but much less of it.
http:// gata.org/node/19084
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a1908e No.6622817
>>6602583
All you need to know for getting new notes:
1) THE FACE VALUE ON THE BULLION IS THE STANDARD TRANSFER.
-1 new note for one ounce silver
-25 new notes for one ounce palladium
-50 new notes for one ounce gold
-100 new notes for one ounce platinum
^^^^^
Self explanatory
2) INFLATION CALCULATOR IS SECONDARY TRANSFER MECHANISM FOR TRADING IN OLD NOTES FOR NEW NOTES.
Go to https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
-See pics as to what to enter in the fields
-This is your secondary transfer mechanism when you give cash in hand for new notes
As of April 2019 calculations:
-26.08 cash in hand for 1 new note
-651.91 cash in hand for 25 new notes
-1303.82 cash in hand for 50 new notes
-2607.63 cash in hand for 100 new notes
There is literally nothing more to this.
Cash in hand and metals get you the new notes…..PERIOD. All other forms of digital fiat forgery will have you standing at the gates with a sad look on your face.
Why don't the cash in hand values match the spot price today for all four metals?
-Manipulation
-Manipulation
-Manipulation
-Manipulation
The day traders (traitors) refuse to let go of the float. No worries as they are scurrying into file 13 as we speak and will be dumped into the abyss where they belong forever and ever. Ever see cockroaches scatter when the lights turn on?
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a1908e No.6622980
>>6603694
>What am I missing?
Not much.
How you acquire tickets is completely up to you. It is a matter of decoupling your brain from old paradigm antics. Just stay based in the process. There are no shortcuts.
As far as the digital saver goes consider this:
The digital fiat forgery machine will be shut down. How this happens can be left to your imagination. Consider the fact that day traitors run the show right now and it is taking an entire copy paste paradigm just to get them unhooked from the digital meth that does have an impact on the human race. Ever see an addict go cold turkey or even a more gradual rehab? Not a pretty site and they are capable of all sorts of destruction. Never lose site of this when you are asking yourself what is fair.
If you want to be fair then propagate the transfer mechanisms to your loved ones and describe the situation. Tell them that they are in a financial meth lab full of junkies that are about to be cut off.
Show them the new notes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmtw8grnnUM
After this it will be as fair as it can be. Not everyone can tune in. It is up to you to repair their receivers.
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a1908e No.6623097
>>6622736
>Then why is 46 allowed to explode
See pic. The explosion is over and the mean will be found @ https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
$25> 1913 = $651.91> 2019
It was designed to explode to top of the quad metallic backing required for the new note paradigm. Miners don't mine if the profit can't be had. Wake up and smell the flowers.
78 is the last major adjustment and it can be done with the lights on or the lights off. That is up to the day traitors. Either way it's happening.
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a1908e No.6623119
>>6622352
>Platinum might be twice as valuable but much less of it.
Face values already state the value.
1, 25, 50, 100
There is no "might" only might….
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a1908e No.6623175
Can you feel the old paradigm markets shaking now? Can you see the rats scurrying into their new found love? They fear the new notes. All by design without any details overlooked.
144,000 - 135,856 = 8,144
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e5e6f4 No.6623416
>>6623097
Then is this is going to drop off a cliff soon. We'll see. Not surprising to predict though.
The idea presented for note conversion is a nice idea that may be rooted in plans behind scenes as far as of during Reagan but no one is addressing some points.
why these four?
why 46 if mint isn't even creating anymore "new notes"
why 78 if mint limits their "new notes" this year they did 40k instead of 30k for some reason.
only 47 and 79 are given minting to demand requirements, and 78 isn't even limited to 100 face.
Its a good theory, and I have watched all the info you cryptically presented but its moot if you can't give anything that would prove it to be realistic. I will grant you, that more and more countries ARE creating their own 78 and filling the gaps of minting what they lack, not so much for 46 though, perhaps excusable given price.
The queens beast series scares me for some reason.
basically you are not giving any proof of being correct, theory yes, feels good perhaps. And I can imagine how it would play out pretty well. But again, pointing to a youtube video count is not convincing unless I'm missing something. In fact may be reason to dismiss anything you say but you keep pointing to it.
Give us something more. No one looks at the current CPI for reality.
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d1a9a7 No.6623499
>>6623416
based on the feels, the overall bigger picture, it seems as if this is the only course of action, if u believe what is going on in some of the bigger breads around here, i think you would have to be fucked in the head to ignore this. maybe thats just me. although i admit much of it is too cryptic for someone with a brain injury like me i can't figure all of it out, but we have only scratched the surface here of what 80526b really means . . . Δ
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d1a9a7 No.6623549
>>6622817
This is the most straight forward, honest, easy to understand post you have laid down in the last 4 breads.
5:5
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d1a9a7 No.6623561
i think the more important question right now is
once everyone realizes how important these 4 horses are, are you better off to be holding the new notes, or the metals when the demand for them starts to explode?
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6e40fd No.6624477
CW isn't trying to convince everyone that he is SN. Maybe just the Chinese?
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56b2c3 No.6629662
"Going back to paper in this modern system is a good idea."
Donald Trump talking about returning to paper voting ballots as a back-up system to electronic voting (which can be hacked).
Stands to reason, paper money is equally valuable as a back-up system to a corrupt electronic banking system. I like it.
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aa58c3 No.6635518
Once I kept a few coins on a random exchange called BTC-E.com. One day I woke up and when I went to log in to the website to trade my coins, I found that it had been seized by the FBI. You might wonder how the FBI can seize a domain whose owners and operators are based in Eastern Europe such as BTC-E.com. Well, the same way they can seize a domain whose owners and operators are based in Malta.
https://www.americancryptoassociation.com/2019/05/31/bitcoin-svs-craig-wright-accuses-binance-tether-of-using-their-money-to-fund-prostitution-slavery/
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226295 No.6635888
>>6635518
https://decrypt.co/6887/crypto-capital-backpage-sex-trafficking-bust
Related
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9f1752 No.6644062
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20982c No.6646977
>>6623175
>>4667381 lb
>>4601778 lb
Verse to George Gershwin’s - Summertime (Piano transcription by "The Pianos of Cha'n")
Summertime & the living is easy.
Fish are jumping…just as high as the sky.
Your daddy’s rich…and
Your momma’s good lookin’,
So hush little baby,
Dooon’t you cry.
Seems like ride starts end of July/first of August…so rollin’ ‘em, boss!
Here’s 1 back atcha! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7tFeVLNH5E
o7
(pics related)
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9f5446 No.6648589
>>6644062
Your posts are conflicted.
GET HELP
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1b12e4 No.6649009
Anyone else experiencing lag?
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c37dcd No.6649375
>>6614878
Crimes happen with money, You need to be smart and not trust everything you see on the internet. You can only trust yourself.
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a1908e No.6654838
>>6648589
Speaking of zerohedge:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-02/did-government-just-test-internet-kill-switch
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a1908e No.6654877
>>6649009
completely normal….
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6e40fd No.6661919
https://coinjazeera.news/block-one-eos-announcement-leaked-got-away-with-it/
The absolute biggest bullshit project ever. And Block.One is a scam. I hope all these people end up in jail. Block.One also had about 35,000,000 MAID at one point. They were by far the largest holders. About 18-24 months ago, they mixed their coins with the Poloniex address, so no one is sure how much they still have, but I would imagine that Brock Pierce isn't much longer for this world, nor are his ICO stakes.
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d02e6d No.6669923
https://www.investinblockchain.com/new-evidence-suggests-satoshi-nakamoto-is-paul-solotshi-the-creator-of-encryption-software-e4m-and-truecrypt/
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d02e6d No.6670003
>>6669923
https://www.wired.com/story/mastermind-excerpt/
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95d50d No.6671908
>>6670003
>https://www.wired.com/story/mastermind-excerpt/
Fake and Gay.
Reads like a leftist jacked off onto a piece of paper and used his finger to smear it all around until it turned into a perfect Globohomo scifi story for trannies.
Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto.
All (((cryptocurrencies))) are going to ZERO.
BSV is Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is electronic cash.
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d02e6d No.6672015
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6e40fd No.6672480
Learn. Think for yourself.
https://safe-network-explained.github.io/safe-for-bitcoiners
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6e40fd No.6673576
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6e40fd No.6673709
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8ca944 No.6675878
Why Do DC Mitch McConnel HIDE AND KEEP SECRET ALL THE DC CRIMES HE KNOWS GOING ON!? Isn't he now part of the crime (aka associated) with HIDING THESE CRIMINAL CRIMES HE KNOWS AND HEARS ABOUT?
I'm sure New Yorkers would love to find out that all their high taxes are being stolen by Shiter Duschlovio's WIFE!
She can not account for $850 MILLION in her NON PROFIT, and is now getting another $1 Billion the next 5 YEARS FROM NEW YORKERS!
Black Loudmouth Dem Eliah Cummings wife also Stolen 10s of Millions of dollars for her Non-Profit and yet, she REFUSED TO FOLLOW LAW AND PROVIDE HER MONEY!
BOTH OF THESE DEM'S BLAINTENTLY DO NOT CARE ABOUT PROVIDING MONEY BOOKS AS THEY STOLEN EVERY SINGLE PENNY THEY COULD!
Trump Admin needs to investigate EVERY SINGLE SPOUSE OF Congress and House of their Non Profit organizations…
Joe Biden's son gets $1.5 Billion and kicked out of the military for BEING A JUNKIE, yet traveled on AF2 with Joe, and 10 days after coming home, he gets $1.5 Billion dollars?
Did anyone check out and ask for Nancy Pelosi's taxes, as all the other Dem's?
How about house Granny Maxine Waters and her multimillion home and all her wealth?
Lets not forget the most treasonous Rep of them all - Mitch McConnell! His wife sells the most advanced jet fighters to foreign nations, as Mitch controls all the contracts! Mitch needs to be tried for TREASON and if FOUND GUILTY, BEHEADED, with his FAMILY SITTING IN THE FRONT ROW! Then his wife walks the plank.. T
Trump - How can one CLEAN HOUSE, if you keep the same old criminals in power? You know, they know everything and BLACKMAIL EVERYONE! They know everyones pedo and crimes in DC, yet the FAILED TO REPORT THEM BY LAW TO LAW ENFORCEMENT!
His and Their failure to notify LE Officials OF CRMINAL ACTIVITY, ARE THEN COVERING UP THESE CRIMES, AND ARE THEN INVOLVED IN THESE CRIMES BY THEIR FAILURE TO NOTIFY OFFICALS OF FELONY CRIMES!
Mitch's failure to report criminal activies he is notified of IS A CRIME! Anyone in DC who knows of CRIMES and FAILS TO NOTIFIED OFFICIALS ARE COVERING UP THAT CRIME, AND ARE NOW PART OF THAT CRIME, BY THEIR FAILURE TO REPORT IT!
So why isn't Trump or anyone going after DC swamp of helping hide felony crimes going on they have driectly knowledge of? Thats a crime and now they are COVERING UP THE CRIME BY NOT INFORMING OFFICIALS!?
https://www.dcclothesline.com/2019/06/04/liberal-media-blackout-bill-de-blasios-wife-cannot-account-for-850-million-collected-from-taxpayers/
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0fc5bf No.6676093
Why do i have the feeling that this means some kind of serious habbening?
Not my find. But i thought it's worth mentioning.
The thing is. I have no clue if it's a thing or not.
In May, Venezuela reportedly sold 15 tonnes of gold worth $570 million from its central bank reserves, skirting US Treasury sanctions. This brought the South American country’s gold reserves to a 29-year low; they are now worth $7.9 billion.
Sauce:
https://sputniknews.com/business/201906051075642140-venezuela-gold-deutsche-bank/
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95d50d No.6677541
>>6675878
Jared Kushner is the answer to all these questions.
It turns out that Q is a delay tactic.
The Great Awakening is something that happens in cycles, it is an uncontrollable force that happens no matter what.
It does not need a "Q" to stir it up, or guide it along.
The Great Awakening just simply happens because it is so.
Q is a Jared Kushner tactic to try to delay the inevitable as long as possible.
Life is not meant to be easy, we cannot rely on others to solve our problems for us.
The Great Awakening, is an understanding and growing acceptance of self reliance.
When we finally awake to the power within, not some magical power but a "okay I am ready to grow up now and do the work that needs to be done" kind of power.
Then we will finally realize,
Hitler did nothing wrong.
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5f98be No.6679115
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5f98be No.6679178
>>6676093
Ya gold matters.
In more ways than we know, probably.
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0b51f7 No.6679313
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4b70ec No.6685324
>>6676093
UK won't let VZ see the gold they're holding and I recall VZ sending their navy to accompany someone's visit. All this after their treasurer was convicted of using billions to bribe other countries politicians
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0aef55 No.6686415
Stay Clueless DUMB ASS AMERICANs! You are all "STRAWMAN's" (Look it up for Awakening)!
Notice Crminal Illegals CAN NOT FLY and DRIVE VEHICLES, and you ALWAYS SEE THIS SAY WTF? Well, Criminal Illegals not holding a Birth Certificate ARE FREE PEOPLE, and MOST US LAWS DO NOT APPLY TO THEM! So THEY DO NOT LEGALLY NEED A "DRIVERS LICENSE", but LEGALLY, NEITHER DO YOU!
A "DRIVERS LICENSE" BY US LAW, ONLY NEEDS ANYONE TO POSSES IS TO BE IN YOUR JOB! If you "TRAVEL" to your mom's house, or store, YOU DO NOT NEED A "Drivers License" - yet, you are BEING CONTROLLED AND BRAINWASHED TO THINK YOU NEED ONE! LEGALLY, YOU DO NOT!
The ONLY TIME A "DRIVERS LICENSE" IS REQUIRED, is when you are being "HIRED" and "PAID" to Travel GOODS, like a Taxi Driver or Truck Driver! Thats the Job to TRANSPORT GOODS FOR HIRE (PAY)! THATS THE 100% ONLY time one NEEDS TO POSSES IT!
"Travelling" to your mom's house OR Store, or Friends, or Movie, etc, YOU DO NOT NEED A "DRIVERS LICENSE" BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT GETTING PAID TO TRANSPORT GOODS! ANYONE WHO READS THE 1st Paragraph in the Federal DMV LAW STATES THIS OPENLY AND CLEARLY!
ALL Gov Roads ARE FREE TO TRAVEL ANYTIME/ANYWHERE and one DOES NOT NEED ANY "LICENSE" LIKE "NAZI travel papers" to move in YOUR FREE NATION! But the CRIMINAL US GOV 100+ years ago, who CREATED THE DEEP STATE Control over the US, changed ALL THE LAWS, and FOUND PROFITS IN CREATING ILLEGAL LAWS, and thus the entre DEBIT US Court System was REPLACED FROM THE ORIGINAL CONSTITIONAL COURTS we once had? Notice ALL "FINES" go back into your Corporate cities budget? Because its NOT A CONSTUTIONAL COURT, but a DEBTORS COURT - TO MAKE MONEY!
Thats the LOOPHOLE ALL CRIMINAL ILLEGALS ARE NEVER ARRESTED, OR RARELY CHARGED! THEY ARE NOT Legal Citizens, SO 80% of US LAWS DO NOT APPLY TO THEM, because they are OWNED BY THE US GOV AS PEOPLE!
You know, you each are "SOLD AND OWNED" ON WALL STREET RIGHT? Just like Documented SLAVES 200 YEARS AGO! Black, White, Yellow, Dem or Rep, Male or Female, YOU ALL ARE DOCUMENTED SLAVES AND TRADED ON WALL STREET BY YOUR US GOV OWNING EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU!
You are being 100% CONTROLLED and YOU ARE SOLD AS A US GOVERNMENT PROPERTY SLAVE! This HAPPENS once your CRIMINAL SLAVE PAPER "aka BIRTH CERTIFICATE" IS CREATED!
Then YOUR BODY IS NOW 100% made a personal "CORPORATION" via that Birth Certificate, and THE US GOVERNMENT TAKES OWNERSHIP OF YOUR ENTIRE LIFE; & ALL YOUR SECRET "CORPORATION" BODY MAKES IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE! Get it?
When they use to say "Business Corporations" CAN'T VOTE, and you heard YES THEY CAN - well its because everyone with a US GOV BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS A SECRET "BUSINESS CORPORATION" AT ISSUE OF IT! Did you know that?
What else do you want to learn? CTDB
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0aef55 No.6686429
>>6686415
If anyone who TRULY WANTS TO LEARN THE ROOTS OF THE DEEP STATE, search the word "STRAWMAN" person ALL US CItizens are victims of. It forced you to need Licenses FOR Driving, Fishing, Hunting, as IT WAS ALL DONE FOR PROFIT and STEALING YOUR MONEY AWAY!
"Strawman" is one of Deepest most CRIMINAL ROOTED Criminal actions that REMOVED ALL YOUR FREEDOMS from the CONSTITUTION from being once a FREE PERSON!
Just like when you hear that large Corporations BUY ALL the NEW or smaller business, THIS IS WHAT THE Criminal US Gov Does to EACH PERSON or "Corporation"! This was the VERY ORIGINS of the DEEP STATE TAKEOVER OVER ALL YOUR FREEDOMS! Yet you only see the VERY SMALL TOP OF BO or Bush Deep State, but it started 100 years ago, and you only see the BO/BUSH VERY TOP crimes and not the Actual ROOTS of how Deep their Criminal Roots Lie within the US Gov!
Why does a Private "For Profit" bank "OWN" the US? You know, the "Federal Reserve" bank the US uses is ACTUALLY A PRIVATE "FOR PROFIT" BUSINESS like Wendys, Taco Bell, Ace Hardware right? So the US People "Owned" ALL THE LAND, yet the Federal Bank we use is PRIVATELY OWNED? So HOW COULD THE US Be in DEBT, when the US Gov OWNED EVERY INCH OF LAND? This when "Strawman" and the Country was SOLD and HANDED OVER TO THE DEEP STATE - 100+ years ago; WITHOUT THE WE THE PEOPLES RIGHTFUL OWNER OF ALL OUR LAND KNOWLEDGE NOR WILL! The criminals in DC turned Criminal and were BRIBED to hand over all US Land "We The People" owned to bankers and powerful elite, who Created a DEEP STATE. Yet "We The People" ownership of the US was criminally GIVEN FOR BRIBES to criminals in secret. Thus, the DS laws were then placed into each court and judge now turned from "Constitutional Law" into a strickly "Debtors Law" so they only make PROFITS for their business (aka USA Corporation):
You know, the USA is REGISTERED AS A BUSINESS CORPORTATION RIGHT? And each of YOU ARE Independant Corporations, your mom signed over the criminal US Gov as THEIR PROPERTY? Search "Strawman".
Do you know that each town, Police Dept, and Gov agency IS ALSO ALL registered as a "BUSINESS CORPORATION"? "Government" is a slick slight of hand trick of calling itself a "Business Corporation" yet you dumb americans sleeping know nothing about your nation?
If you look who actually OWNS YOUR TOWN, OR PD, OR WATER DEPT, etc, THEY ARE REGISTERED UNDER DIFFERENT PERSONAL NAMES IN LEGAL DOCUMENTS, AND NOT WE THE PEOPLE OWNED? The bank name is city, but you need to look AT THE OWNERS PERSONAL PERSONS NAME WHO "OWNS" AND CONTROLS THAT BANK ACCOUNT! Yes - a Persons NAME OWNS your PD, and elite pillage it, and keeps SOME MONEY in it, so it looks like its all the cities. Seach WHAT PERSONS NAME OWNS YOUR CITY - as it is not YOUR COMMUNITY - but a private person!
The Key is EVERYONES BIRTH CERTIFICATE CREATED in the hospital, "CREATES" each newborn INTO BEING A "BUSINESS CORPORATION"! And who "Unknowingly Signs" your RIGHT as a FREE PERSON over to the US Gov as THEIR PROPERTY
And being a GOV SLAVE, they use your "Strawman" name as Property ON WALL STREET, and EACH PERSON IS BOUGHT AND SOLD IN BULK ON WALL STREET, TO COVER THE US GOV BILLS! The US Gov uses its people Slave Ownership Birth Certificate as Collatoral on the STock Market!
Do you know how to find WHAT SPECIFIC BANK OWNS YOUR LIFE VIA YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE? You know, you are all SLAVES, and you have secret OWNERSHIP PAPERS OWN AND BOUGHT/SOLD ON WALL STREET?
See how Deep this Deep State and Criminal Nation was slowly and secretly passed on to the rich controllor elites, yet you need Licenses for everything? 1/3 of all jobs require Licenses controlled by the Gov? They make $ off of it.
Even all "City Fines" goes where when you get tickets? YEAH - THAT CITY to PAY THEIR BILLS! So VICTIMLESS TICKETS ARE ALL criminal tools as THEIR ARE NO VICTIMS IN ALL VICTIMS CRIMES, yet they steal all the money they can from you to pay their bills. Thus the DEBTORS JAILS came to be, just because YOU HAVE NO MONEY TO GIVE THEM IN MANY CRIMES!
Search "Strawman" and you'll have your mind blown.
Thanks! CTDB
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0aef55 No.6686906
>>6686429
>>6686415
To further PROVE these FACTS, you are all unknowingly a "Corporation" and OWNED by the US Gov, look at ALL YOUR BANK, BILLS, LICENSES, ANYTHING LEGAL!
WHAT DO YOU NOTICE THATS STRANGE?
ITS ALL IN CAPITAL LETTERS!
Thats your 100% PROOF YOU ARE ACTING AS A "BUSINESS CORPORATION"! Ever wonder WHY its not like Smith or Jones, where its 1st Ltr CAP and rest small? BECAUSE THAT IS NOT A LEGAL CONTRACT! Only LEGAL CONTRACT AGREEMENTS are ALL IN CAPs!
So your mom gave birth, and then unknowningly when she SIGNS THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE, THAT CREATED YOUR "Corporation Strawman" NAME AS A CONTRACT "Creating" your body as a Business Corporation!
Next, your mother needs to file in court within 90 days after birth, to claim you AS A FREE PERSON, yet no one does this and follows the norm. Once mom's DO NOT do this, THIS ABANDONED BABY IN THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE 100% BECOMES A "WARD OF THE STATE" and 100% takes FULL CONTROL OVER THAT PERSON (Corporation person) IN THEIR WELL BEING!
Next, notice all these so called "GOV ABUSES" with parents and children in all Child Protectives Services PRIOR TO becoming 18? The Gov 100% "Controls" whatever will they want! But you all FAIL TO COMPREHEND your YOUR MOM "Abadoned" the bay after 90 days after birth and not appearing in court to claim it, SO THE GOV DEFAULTS INTO BEING ITS LEGAL RIGHTFUL PARENT!
So the GOV then "OWNS" that child until 18, and PARENTS ARE NOT IN FULL CONTROL OVER THEIR CHILDREN! So the parent is removed into the Gov system, WHO RIGHTFULLY OWN THAT BABY, due to your MOM NOT CLAIMING OWNERSHIP OVER YOU AFTER YOUR BIRTH!
So you WANT TO PLAY THE GAME OF LIFE IN THE US, AS A US CITIZEN!? THEN LEARN THE DAM LAW YOU BRAINWASHED SLEEPING CLUELESS AMERICANS1
Just because you GAVE BIRTH to a baby, DOES NOT MEAN ITS YOURS LEGALLY! Its all because YOUR MOTHER SIGNED YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE as a "Business Corportion" NAME, and you AGREED TO file in court, within 90 days, ownership of your child! Don't blame the US Gov for YOUR MOTHER REFUSING TO FOLLOW US LAW TO FILE COURT PAPERS TO CLAIM THE OWNERSHIP OF HER BIRTH CHILD! Its in the Birth Certificate LAW she AND EVERYONE FAILED TO READ, and you ALL DEFAULTED IN US LAW, so you ABANDED YOUR CHILD! Then the US Gov becomes DEFAULT OWNER OF YOUR BIRTH "Business CORPORATION" because your mom failed to claim ownership over her birth baby!
This is HOW THE REAL WORLD US GOV SYSTEM WORKS! Yet you clueless AMericans fail to follow your own laws, and worse yet, you all FOLLOW LIKE LOST LITTLE SHEEP, WHAT EVERYONE ELSE DOES AND NOT READ OR LEARN US LAWS!
So when any family complains about "THEIR CHILD", well, in US Criminal Deep State Illegal Court today, just answer WHY YOU NEVER FILED TO TAKE "OWNERSHIP" over your birth baby within 90 days AFTER BIRTH? By LAW, that is Required so they ask each parent, WHY DID YOU ABANDED YOUR BABY, and make it WARD OF THE US Gov; who now 100% controls your child's wellbeing?
Surely if you were a law abiding loving parent, WHY IN THE HELL DIDN"T YOU GO TO COURT WITHIN 90 DAYS AND CLAIM YOUR BABY? Yet you claim YOU DIDN'T KNOW OR TOLD, but IGNORANCE OF US LAW IS NO DEFENSE!
So to keep this quiet, when major cases comes to MEDIA and WILL EXPOSE THIS CRIME OF OUR CHILDREN, the US Gov Child Protective Svs will "GIVE" to keep this SECRET GOING OF CONTROLLING YOUR CHLIDREN!
So you call yourself a great American, yet you worry more about TV programs then CARE ABOUT THE CRIMINAL LAWS GOING ON! Turn your back and leave it to everyone else to deal with… Yet thats the problem…
See how DEEP THIS DEEP STATE GOES? So did anyone figure out HOW TO LEARN WHICH BANK HOLDS THEIR SLAVE PAPERS ON WALL STREET?
If you know nothing of "STRAWMAN" you are clearly one of the MOST CARELESS AMERICAN ON OUR SOIL! Stay being a ZOMBIE, as 99+% of you are. You "THINK" you are educated and smart, yet you are the MOST DUMBEST AMErICANS ON REAL ISSUES!
Funny Crminal Illegals can LEGALLY DRIVE, NEVER GET TICKETS, NOR MASS ARRESTED LIKE LEGAL US CORPORATION CITIZENS. See how you live in a NAZI Control Paper world, WHO NEED APPROVAL TO THINGS INSIDE THE US? This way, they keep tabs on your every movement, and Control your non existant freedoms.
Since when is it a crime to TRAVEL on free open public roads to get food or visit your parents? In this DEEP STATE CONTROLLED WORLD, you need NAZI PAPERS (aka Drivers License) to TRAVEL TO THE STORE, ON PUBLIC STREETS! SEE HOW YOU ReALLY ARE NOT FREE TO TRAVEL ANYWHERE, WITHOUT BEING ASKED TO SEE YOUR CRIMINAL WW2 Criminal Nazi papers when asked?
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0aef55 No.6687204
>>6686429
>>6686415
>>6686906
So did anyone learn each legal US Citzen non existent "STRAWMAN" persona you were given AT BIRTH?
Did you find where to find WHO OWNS your SLAVE BANK CORPORATION OWNERSHIP, as YOU ARE TRADED LIKE CATTLE OR STOCK on WALL STREET.
Did you serach and learn THE ACTUAL PERSONS NAME WHO ACTUALLY is legally name as the person OWNING YOUR CITY, or PD, or any Gov Dept?
Many times you will see, that its OWNED UNDER A BUSINESS NAME, but the human persons "CONTROLLING" and actually "OWNING" your city, or PD, is secretly hidden. But you will find either a persons name OR a Business Coroprations name as "LEGAL OWNERSHIP" of it! Start you journey int he Business Ownership database. But your city is not owned by your community, nor your We The People, but a person.
Then, look who actually owns the "United State of America" CORPORATION! The entire US was Criminally turned into a Business Corporation Business Entity, and OWNED BY SOMEONE!
If I remember right, Notice that the QUEEN OF ENGLAND IN LONDON ACTUALLY "OWNS" ALL OF THE US!
Notice that the Gov land being taken away or SOLD to China or businesses? How can that be IF IT WAS PUBLIC LAND? Simple! Public Land IS NOT OWNED BY THE PUBLIC, but the USA "Corporation"! Understand the difference? If you don't comprehend the LAWs, how in the hell can smart Americans know anything, yet the love watching CNN or MTV or reality programs because of course, THATS REAL LIFE!
Ask your mom why she failed to claim you 90 days after your birth Legally, into US Courts! Or is it because SHE, LIKE YOU, THINK GODS LAW OF BIRTH IS THE SAME AS US PRINTED LAW!
Sure, mom birthed you, so in GODS LAW, its yours. In that aspect YES but you failed to follow US PRINTED LAW - that REQUIRES HER to FILE IN COURT OWNERSHIP OF THAT NEWBORN! So why then, if you love America, did you mom abanded you PER COURT AND HER SIGNATURE, to NOT CLAIM YOU AFTER 90 days IN US LEGAL COURT? See how fun this game is played?
You all "assume" Gods Law of birth, means its yours forever, but not in any US Court of law. Compare that to a cow giving birth! So does that automatically mean the calf is that cows for life, or does it get sold off as property? 100% exact same thing as babys and calves are both properties that can be bought and sold! Stay sleeping in your own self tiny brainwashed reality in fantasyland… But for Gods sake, never ever read and learn TRUTH because its too scary.
Just like WW2 Nazi Germany, that needed to have people SHOW PAPERS to travel or when walking the streets, notice the US Gov does the exact same thing under LICENSES? You need a license for this or that, and if you are only travelling to get food and stopped, for not having the correct "Papers", you are arrested or fined! Yet your free travel for food to the store IS NONEXISTANT! Only walking miles is acceptable to Controllers to keep you confined to ONE AREA ONLY! See how the Nazi controlled free travel? Yet its all around you, and you all ACCEPT IT AS NORMAL!
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ae283e No.6687290
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0aef55 No.6687513
>>6686429
>>6686415
>>6686906
>>6687204
Funny Criminal Illegals can LEGALLY DRIVE, AS WE SEE ALL THE TIME, NEVER GET TICKETS, PULLED OVER, NOR MASS ARRESTED LIKE LEGAL US CORPORATION CITIZENS. See how you live in a NAZI Control Paper world, WHO NEED GOV APPROVAL TO DO THINGS INSIDE THE US?
How about the ATTEMPTED COUP OF TRUMP! Remember, the Coup on Trump is the 2nd TIME A BUSH's NAME WERE INVOLVED!? Did you know that in 1933, Prescott Bush tried a COUP OF AMERiCA AND THE WHITE HOUSE, but was Caught and FOUND GUILTY OF HIS ATTEMPTED COUP? Yet in 2019, notice again we have the Bush Deep State again INVOLVED/NAMED IN the 2nd and ONLY COUP?
Did you know that the last name of BUSH is NOT REAL - like BO? Why do all the Bush family possess GERMAN PASSPORTS UNDER THE NAME OF "GEORG SHERIFF" SR & JR?
THE BUSH FAMILY ARE NAZIs FROM WW2, who got their wealth with one GEORGE SOROS! See how Deep State ties together? Now does that answer WHY Soros is never arrested or charged? He's also tied to one HRC now isn't he? But yet, SOROS partnered with one PRESCOTT BUSH (GHW Bushs Grandpa) back in Hitler Days, and THEY BOTH GOT WEALTH WORKING TOGETHER! So now you know HOW the Bush family got their wealth! Soros was in Europe raping & Pillaging Hilters Stolen valuables, and Prescott Bush family in US SELLING THEM and sending Soros/Hitler back the money! Yes - Really! Search and Learn!
Question - Why is Barr only going after the HRC Deep State and NOT THE BUSH DEEP STATE? They are different and the Bush DS includes GHW being detained in the room NEXT TO OSWALD immediately after the JFK Murder, untill HOOVER called Dallas PD to release him! Years later, this Bush took over HOOVERS JOB!? Strange? Then kid GW Bush ordered the 911 Towers to Come down on 911. And Barr only goes after the HRC Deep State? Could it be both Mueller and Barr and Strzok were both high officials under the Bush DS?
So how SMART ru brainwashed ones to not learn real truth going on?
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0aef55 No.6687525
>>6687290
TRUTH SCARES YOU HEY? EXPOSES YOUR CRIMES AND DON"T WANT PEOPLE TO LEARN TRUTH? SEE HOW THIS GAME OF TRUTH IS PLAYED? DON"T HATE TRUTH! SEARCH AND TELL ME WHERE ITS LIES?
This is why these boards ARE NOT TRUTH, but CONTROLLED to keep you AWAY FROM CERTAIN TOPICS OF DS you are NOT suppose to find out!
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ae283e No.6687945
Can't see it.
Sorry, not sorry.
Fuck off.
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a1908e No.6689719
>>6687525
>he must think they don't already know
Social contracts are a son of a bitch and hind site is always 20/20 right? It's understood how things like this can upset your core. Unfortunately there isn't anything you can do about order but provide a chaotic solution.
Maybe it is you who doesn't realize that the STRAWMAN meme is just another part of the game. You don't get out of this. There is only one truth. Pain and suffering.
On a lighter note 2020 is just around the corner and if you have your eyes all squared away you can see the new notes in your hand if you have the tickets.
144,000 - 137,045 = 6,955
Not much time left to get your house in order.
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740847 No.6695202
When else has DOD been involved in international mining negotiations?
https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/73105/pentagon-eyes-rare-earth-supplies-in-africa-in-push-away-from.html
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a5c2b0 No.6695796
>>6689719
>Not much time left to get your house in order.
On a related note central banks appear to be on a sustained gold buying spree.
>>6686593
‘In Gold We Trust’: Waning confidence in US sends world’s central banks on buying spree
Governments around the world have recently been on a “gold-buying spree.” These countries have a tactful reason for doing so, and this reason is directly tied to the anticipation of the inevitable end of US hegemony.
Central banks are among the largest purchasers of gold. So far in 2019, they have bought 145.5 tons of gold, which is more in a quarter of a year than central banks have purchased in the preceding six years. To put it bluntly, this figure represents a 68 percent increase from the year before. Last year, central banks increased their reserves by 651.5 tonnes compared to 375 tonnes in 2017. Reportedly, this is the largest net purchase of gold since 1967.
Most interesting, however, is the class of countries that we find are turning to hoarding more and more gold, many of which are deemed to be adversaries of Washington.
As always, Russia is the largest buyer of gold. In 2018, Russia’s Central Bank purchased 274.3 tons of gold. It also dumped 84 percent of its US treasury debts (we will come back to why this is important later.)
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/461207-central-banks-buy-gold-dollar/
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a4a9a5 No.6697034
To any anons that were around for the first bread or saved images from it
Did you save any of the following images in their original resolution? I only have the lo-res ones from archive.org.
If you could post them here, it would greatly help with some digging for more than just me I'd assume.
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a1908e No.6697747
>>6697034
>Reformation day October 31st
Interesting little tidbit for you to chew on regarding this year:
Pentecost 2019 = June 9th
Reformation day 2019 = October 31st
June 9th → October 31st = 144 days
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12a40a No.6698431
>>6695796
Not quite.
Waning trust in Central Banks and every economy OTHER THAN AMERICA's sends the world on a gold buying spree.
Real money sees the writing on the wall. Gold will destroy the Fed and a self-sufficient America will only increase in strength and influence, strengthening the US Dollar as a result.
If any country is going to back its currency with gold, it will probably be America first. that is DOLLAR BULLISH. Hugely.
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66793b No.6698681
>>6698431
>Real money sees the writing on the wall.
>Gold will destroy the Fed…
…and
>the digital fiat forgery machine will be shut down
Assuming the America (and then the world?) is going back to a quad metal based financial system AND the digital ledger is going to be wiped, or at the very least drastically altered, Russia dumping US Treasuries for metal/GOLD seems logical.
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c37dcd No.6700810
When will the Federal Reserve becomes Restructured?
When will the IRS be abolished?
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a1908e No.6702265
>>6698431
>DOLLAR BULLISH
Precisely
>>6698681
>Assuming the America (and then the world?)
The float will be abolished.
USD = EUR = GBP = AUD = CAD = CHF
XDR = tick tock
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ee81e5 No.6723447
>>6702265
>float will be abolished
Apologies for the tard question here but can someone point me to what a ==float== is in this context, what it means, and why it would be abolished?
Follow up questions:
What role, if any, will fractional banking have with new notes? Concept strikes a tard-anon like myself as anathma to being based BUT I’m also trying to reconcile with control of the money supply.
>Fiat grants power to grow/contract money supply
>Power to grow/contract money supply effects economy
>Been used for good and evil, mostly evil
>but NEW NOTES ARE BASED ==NOT== fiat
>Power to grow/contract money supply no longer possible or at least no longer possible in the traditional sense of control of a based currency is distributed (?)
>no free rides
Damn. Guess that means we’ll no longer earn frequent-flyer miles (talk about fiat!) on purchases after the new notes debut?
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19da55 No.6723957
>>6723447
a managed float is sort of the opposite of a currency peg. a peg means the value of a currency is linked to the value of something else. a float means the value of a currency is determined by forex market. a managed float means there are upper and lower bounds set by some official, within which the value of the currency may move
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6e40fd No.6727402
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/06/rick-santorum-launches-catholic-bitcoin.html
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6e40fd No.6728325
https://twitter.com/brockpierce/status/1133493375301246976
huge douchebag. "kind of a big deal"
puerto rico trafficking source, IMO.
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481fd2 No.6730147
The State of OUR Union is STRONG
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cecc04 No.6731131
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cecc04 No.6731182
>>6728325
Of course Brock Pierce uses Satanic at least two Satanic symbols on his his Twitter page: of the rising phoenix and the unicorn. The Satanic Cabal has done everything they can to infiltrate crypto because Bitcoin terrifies them! The exchanges and all the copycat shitcoins are highly suspect. At this point, I only trust Bitcoin held using my own private keys.
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740847 No.6733880
https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/73196/jpmorgan-chase-could-face-fourth-felony-count-for-rigging-precious-metals.html
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4a6689 No.6740079
One has to put in place serious computing power to mine for digital currency. Anyone discuss what your computing power is being used for? It's not strictly for bitcoin, you are lending your computer for outside computations. It would be shame if you are aiding your own enslavement. Google buying adiabatic quantum computers and others who are not our friends. The spy grid takes up a lot of computer power…
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d1a9a7 No.6745631
>>6702265
can you clarify more on the face values
for example, the US 1 oz silver dollar has a 1$ face value, the canadian 1oz dollar has a 5$ value, the chinese 1 oz has a 10 yuan =1.44 US value, and the british 1oz silver has a 2$ pound = 2.44us value, so how does that work when you go to cash it in? is the canadian one the best since it has a 5$ value on it which = 3.40$ us? please elaborate more
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6e40fd No.6749572
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fec974 No.6751392
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6e40fd No.6751488
>>6751392
real! wow. this IS getting interesting. I knew he didn't like trump and is pretty liberal, but retweeting Evan McMullian???
https://twitter.com/timberners_lee/status/788403330976362500
Thanks.
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6e40fd No.6751507
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a1908e No.6752998
>>6745631
I can't speak to the other countries face values as it seems they have NO idea what they are doing.
For example countries like Australia, England, and Austria all have Au and Pt face values at the same value (100) which deviates from the quad metals backed US new notes. To give Au and Pt the same face value is absolutely ludicrous. Any sane individual on planet earth would agree.
The good news is an ounce is an ounce and I have a feeling that new note distribution will have no objections to foreign bullion regardless of the inconsistent face value stamps in accordance with US face values. Same goes for bars. An ounce is an ounce.
Bottom line is stick to the previously stated transfer mechanisms and ignore the rest.
1) THE FACE VALUE ON THE US BULLION IS THE STANDARD TRANSFER.
2) INFLATION CALCULATOR IS SECONDARY TRANSFER MECHANISM FOR TRADING IN OLD NOTES FOR NEW NOTES.
BTW:
144,000 - 137,994 = 6006
So close now…
You keeping an eye on XAU and USD?
-The bots are feverishly trying to jar Au out of the holding pattern while attempting to smash the USD. Pathetic.
Are you watching XAG and XPT?
-Ag at a stupid high 90:1 GSR
-Pt with insanely long candle wicks
Hope you are ready to ride cause the only way the meth heads day traders escape is through seppuku.
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d1a9a7 No.6759633
>>6752998
i know you have stated multiple times throughout the past breads that face values matter, however here you state that bars are acceptable too? is there any downside to bars, its much easier to handle 100oz bar then 100 coins
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6e40fd No.6761411
>>6759633
>is there any downside to bars
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d1a9a7 No.6761460
>>6761411
the same can be said for coins too though no?
if you are buying from a reputable dealer this shouldn't be an issue, i would imagine if this actually goes through the way they say there will be onsite ways to vette counterfeit things like this ie xray
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e5e6f4 No.6761604
>>6761460
>the same can be said for coins too though no?
It would go "thud" more than "ring" when you ping, au ag eagles both best for it. maples go "clank", so they require hardware to visualize the harmonics. xray is useless, that only tests the surface.
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6e40fd No.6761990
>>6761460
coins, not rounds, are generally easier to evaluate. more security features, etc.
just buy eagles. its a no brainer…unless you've got "good delivery" bars, you rich bastard.
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2c80d4 No.6763517
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Worth Watching!
I had almost completely given up on YouTube. So many "alternative media" YT channels are just MSM liars in disguise. But this interview on Greg Hunter is really good. I listened carefully to every word, and I did not hear any Cabal disinfo or Satanic sleight of hand.
Here, Wayne Jett talks about economics and the importance of Trump's trade agreements in re-balancing the American trade deficit so that America (and the world) can transition to a new monetary system, based at least in part on gold.
Wayne doesn't mention Q by name but he mentions The Storm, The Plan and many other things that suggest Wayne is a patriot who follows Q.
Watch the interview, it's worth it. He discusses:
* The fact that Trump is backed by military and for the first time in history is taking down the Global Cabal.
* The Global Cabal always intended to murder and poison humanity to wipe out a large part of the human population.
* The Great Depression and Crash of '29 was contrived for the benefit of the Cabal. In that Depression, MILLIONS were deliberately starved to death in America, and the elected presidents did nothing to help.
* The SEC is a Cabal-created fraud which acts as a shield to cover for the Cabal's financial crimes.
* All of humanity has been robbed of their real wealth, and Cabal-issued promissory notes (i.e., dollars from the Federal Reserve and notes from other global reserve banks) far exceed the Reserve Bank's ability to repay those promises. That is, the Federal Reserve is bankrupt.
* Trump's Executive Order on Human Trafficking is critical to freezing the global assets of the Cabal, cutting off their power and opening up the possibility of returning trillions in stolen wealth to the people of the world.
* The Federal Reserve has been a criminal operation since its inception in 1913. He calls it a "foreign occupying power in the U.S."
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0756fe No.6768797
>>6761990
How about junk silver/constitutional coins?
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6e40fd No.6768914
>>6768797
I wouldn't buy it, but I wouldn't sell it. It's more useful than a lot of other stuff. They might even gain a bit of numismatic value being historical…
Like bars and rounds, though, they still need to be melted down, separated, and recast to be circulated again. Gold is for value; silver is for exchange. Junk/Old Gold is more interesting. Regardless, I'm only interested in a balanced portfolio, with au/ag play a very specific and limited role. Way to many other things in the world to worry about more than that.
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1d77a2 No.6774619
Litecoin continues to exhibit unusual weakness against BTC (usually LItecoin rockets in crypto market upswings). Are insiders quietly exiting the ultimate Scam Coin? Are red-pilled crypto-heads finally catching wind of Charlie Lee's grand deception?
I pray a lot of wind comes out of Litecoin's sail before people are seriously hurt.
Of course, there's the chance the Cabal runs Litecoin up much higher into a dangerous bubble so as to hurt as many as possible, with the hopes of bringing down Bitcoin (the good coin) in the process.
Or course, there's a chance that Litecoin is salvaged from the scap heap – that the Cabal scammers (including Charlie Lee) are removed from the crypto-space, and a reformed Litecoin survives and thrives after the exposure of the criminal Cabal behind it.
But I am not touching Litecoin with a ten-foot pole, no matter what price it might rise to, and not because it might crash either, but because Satoshi offered Bitcoin to the people as a chance at monetary freedom. And freedom (not lambos) is the ONLY reason to invest in ANY cryptocurrency. The only coin right now I can even imagine trusting (and it's all a very risky space) is Bitcoin.
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a1908e No.6775704
>>6759633
1 ounce is 1 ounce
New Notes take their marching orders from US face values but they have no issues with generics or foreign.
First come first serve in the following order:
-US Bullion
-.999 fine in all varieties
-US old notes in hand
>>6768797
legit
>>6763517
Beware of the old guard. Their motivation is fees and full reset. They are not interested in the balance. I'm not discounting all of it but many of the old guard went full bore on pigcoins.
As far as the fed is concerned I say put them to work to help restore the balance. It is clear to me now that when the "decentralized saviors" run the show that they print FOEVA just like their predecessors.
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a1908e No.6775762
>>6752998
>-Pt with insanely long candle wicks
bots @ work keeping it cheap
This horse can only stay in the stable for so long….
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2f3c81 No.6775911
>>6763517
"* Trump's Executive Order on Human Trafficking is critical to freezing the global assets of the Cabal"
Very nice ideas, but either not true or not working. Take Soros: on the loose and creating catastrophes and chaos.
Money is no object for him or his spawn - ever. It appears no efforts have been made to take their operations out.
That is one instance. The list of perps is long.
Meanwhile, innocent people continue to be checked out.
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6e40fd No.6776149
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>6775911
>Money is no object for him or his spawn - ever.
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6e40fd No.6781343
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6e40fd No.6783373
https://www.forbes.com/sites/caitlinlong/2019/06/09/what-facebooks-cryptocurrency-means-6-predictions/#34444a0a7022
1. Facebook’s cryptocurrency will be a powerful force for good in developing countries, which is where Facebook intends to market the product.
2. Facebook will pay interest to holders of its cryptocurrency, and this will eventually lead to populist calls to repeal corporate subsidies to banks at the heart of the US banking system.
3. Facebook’s foundation will grow to garner big power in global capital markets.
4. Facebook will face regulatory uncertainty—which will shed light on many outdated financial regulations in the process.
5. Facebook’s regulatory reporting program will open all kinds of interesting discussions.
6. Facebook’s cryptocurrency will turn out, in the end, to be a Trojan horse that benefits bitcoin.
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0bc400 No.6783971
>>6781343
Especially with the Libra logo. For fuck's sake. It's a known Satanic pedo symbol!
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b54223 No.6784141
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. ALERT: The New Litecoin Debit Cards will SAVE THE WORLD!! (Bix Weir)
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0bc400 No.6784158
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0bc400 No.6784163
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b54223 No.6784462
>>6784163
EZ spend for litecoin. Wier's opinion is his own.
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6e40fd No.6785044
>>6784158
just passing on the summary of the article…
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06f18b No.6785631
>>6781343
One more scam to be run on the uninformed.
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a1908e No.6785791
>>6781343
San Francisco → Coinbase → Barry Silbert → Larry Summers → Bill Clinton → the digital left in utter despair
Don't believe me? Look it up:
https://dcg.co/who-we-are/
The only trojan was the wooden horse back in 2014. I think I see the soldiers busting out now.
Better saddle up because the real horses are coming.
>>6784141
Every single day that passes is a day for redemption.
Digital fiat forgery will always be a digital fiat forgery no matter how you package it.
144,000 - 138,936 = 5,064
Under 5g's incoming…
You really want to take a chance on this?
IN GOD WE TRUST
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6e40fd No.6787139
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. From video description:
"When Nakamoto published the Bitcoin Whitepaper, a door was opened that could never be closed. The world now had a Sybil-resistant, trustless consensus protocol - and thousands of minds started working overtime on ever-more intriguing applications of this novel technology.
Maidsafe Developer and PARSEC co-author, Pierre Chevalier will present the PARSEC consensus protocol.
He’ll show why a blockchain just couldn’t cut it when it came to powering the SAFE Network - the fully autonomous decentralized data and communications network for the world - and how the PARSEC protocol solves that problem."
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2fc9a4 No.6787253
>>6775911
You forgot to label your response an opinion piece.
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6e40fd No.6788441
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24abae No.6788952
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6e40fd No.6792497
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6e40fd No.6792588
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b06867 No.6794170
>>6788952
GCR!!!
Slaves no more!!!
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24abae No.6795316
QFS? Dr. Art Laffer knows:
GOLD shall Destroy the Fed.
Q+
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7f582a No.6795488
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e1f971 No.6796162
>>6792497
Facebook funny money.
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6e40fd No.6796338
Gold is exploding. Just crossed VERY important resistance. Not sure there is any going back from here. 1400 will confirm it, but I'm seeing 1387, wtf???
Pressure for the G20?
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0f2d8d No.6796997
>>6784141
Bix Weir is deluded or a shill. I can't decide which. I lean towards the former. In which case his arrogance has seriously blinded him. Let's not forget that Bix was the one telling us BCash was the "real" Bitcoin. Ya he hasn't mentioned that in a while, has he.
Then there are his much more obviously compromised associates. Clif High? Bitcoin Ben? Paytriot shills. So if we judge Bix by the company he keeps, that doesn't bode well for Bix.
I feel sorry for the people who pay for his lies or misguided insights – you choose which. I feel sorry for Bix if he's just deluded because soon I think he'll be eating crow.
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54b825 No.6799627
>>6785791
>>6796338
Guess the next few weeks will be telling one way or another.
Couldn't embed https://hooktube.com/T900ZNPYbKg
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a1908e No.6802252
>>6796338
>Gold is exploding
This condition is interesting. Looks like someone blinked. Where there is smoke there is sure to be fire.
http://didthesystemcollapse.com/
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7e473f No.6802506
>>6802252
Not only Gold. Also USD, Dow, Bitcoin.
Safe havens denominated in the mighty USD, backed by the real gold standard: President Trump.
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6e40fd No.6805138
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18fee8 No.6812138
>>6799627
https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1136736291989725191
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55d7f2 No.6812896
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ef5eaa No.6822080
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e1a918 No.6822616
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6e40fd No.6823418
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c9b9e6 No.6825959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdgwo43WM-4
A good video for anons who's interested.
A few take-a-ways:
10:04
"The Fed is loosing control on the price of money"
10:14
"Either the Fed is going to have to cede control over the price of money, in which case, we don't need the Fed anymore. Or they are going to have to cede control over the quantity of money"
Hence, print to infinity…
>>6622817
They've been fucking with the way they calculate the CPI for decades. I'm not sure anon's assessment of PM's exchange rates will be accurate, when its all said an done. Obviously, its still a good idea to exchange now for PM while the dollar has higher value rather than later when they print to infinity.
John Williams @ Shadow Government Statistics still calculates the CPI pre-fucking (1980). Its propably not entirely accurate either, since it takes into account 1980 consumer spending habits (no cell phones for example), but its still a stable measurement.
http://www.shadowstats.com/inflation_calculator?amount1=1&y1=1913&m1=5&y2=2019&m2=5&calc=Find+Out
We're talking somewhere around 8X more inflation than the CPI calculates. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle of the CPI and SS-CPI.
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06f7c0 No.6826079
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18fee8 No.6834104
World reserve gold purchases up >600% from a year prior
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWQ-aVx8mE4
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a1908e No.6834326
>>6825959
>They've been fucking with the way they calculate the CPI for decades.
Find balance or suffer in chaos. Choice is yours. Try not to get dragged down into the utter devastation of it all and get ready for a new foundation. The face values were a blessing in disguise. There will be a last ditch effort to throw the balance off that you can bet on. This moment is already here IMO.
GSR = 91.7
Wall St. 2.0 = + $11,000
Leftists utopia = Libra
All major equities indexes = ATH
The desperation to keep it from the meek and in the hands of the geek is thick.
144,000 - 139,935 = 4,065
If I didn't know any better I would say we're already ridin…
Remember:
Ag = undervalued
Pd = overvalued
Au = good to go
Pt = undervalued
1:25:50:100 / New Notes
#80526b
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6e40fd No.6844706
>>6834326
>144,000
Maybe we'll get the Hammer to drop this Thorsday.
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a1908e No.6846267
144,000 - 141,230 = 2,770
Wall St. 2.0 throwing that hail mary….
What will they do when their markets are still priced in old notes. Only way out will be the tax collector. Thats if they can avoid the MAGA log jam and lights out.
Poof
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a3aa9a No.6850711
>>6799627
WTF? You and I have been tracking this video questioning ETA and the last 2 days it's skyrocketed and looks to hit 6/28.
============
6/26 - 142,866
6/25 - 141,230 >>6846267
6/24 - 139,935
…
6/20 - 139,113
============
Right when BTC is taking another LEAP, just after gold and silver rose 10%, and this curious thing…
>https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/445?s=4&r=9
>Introduced in House (06/18/2019) Sets forth the rule for consideration of the bill (H.R. 3055) making appropriations for the Departments of Commerce and Justice, Science, and Related Agencies for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2020, and for other purposes; relating to consideration of the bill (H.R. 2740) making appropriations for the Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and related agencies for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2020, and for other purposes; and providing for proceedings during the period from June 28, 2019, through July 8, 2019.
This part:
>providing for proceedings during the period from June 28, 2019, through July 8, 2019.
1. That's 10 days.
2. It's not any window I've seen for financial purposes before.
3. It's really vague.
There's another bill about paying to hang/post something in the mall of america on 7/16-20 https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-joint-resolution/60?s=3&r=4.
Also this really flew fast through the chambers and became law. It's about military funding to take over services for a pandemic. https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/1379?s=3&r=5
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a3aa9a No.6851340
>>6850711
WTF!? 143,343 !!! It's been under and hour and rose 500
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6e40fd No.6852199
>>6851340
>https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/1379?s=3&r=5
Look for it to happen at midnight…but might actually happen in about 5 minutes at this rate…
143,966
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6e40fd No.6852251
>>6852199
and there it is. now what???
17
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4d1884 No.6853963
>>6822616
Ultimately people don't want crypto they want a medium to trade for goods. So the crypto that'll win is the one stores accept
>>6852251
146k. 5k in a day. Someone planned to hit this before 6/28.
Let's see if you're right today
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1efa41 No.6854311
>>6850711
That ten days bit is odd. Would that have anything to do with 10 days darkness, you think?
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fd46ce No.6854808
>>6854311
They rolled some 10 day "proceedings" funding into a funding period for the 2 half of next year. Can you find anything for this period of time from 2018 or prior? It's not a window I've heard of before.
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0110b6 No.6858398
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6e40fd No.6859187
>>6853963
>Ultimately people don't want crypto they want a medium to trade for goods. So the crypto that'll win is the one stores accept
when it's embedded in the system that everyone desires, then that's what they'll use. Gold in the Earth, Dollars in the USA, native crypto in the most used decentralized internet, etc. It will be secondary to the environment. Bitcoin is a plan B. It will remain a plan B as well which is fine. It can scale but it can't be the foundation to a new internet. The internet environment is the problem, the incorrect incentives, etc. The solution to that problem that has a native crypto secondary will be used as digital currency in that market. Dollars and gold and bitcoin and even such a native currency aren't mutually exclusive…just a checks and credit cards aren't.
>>6854311
10 days…and 2 days early…July 4th.
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a1908e No.6860223
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>6852251
>now what???
We ride….
Just know that you witnessed the pouring of the foundation.
Ever see a raging wild fire?
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6298f1 No.6860243
>>6859187
Crypto is planB, Bitcoin has already been funneled to majority 1% ownership and control over development.
>>6860223
Ride becomes noticable when?
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95d50d No.6860309
>>6862043
BTC rapidly falling now.
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a1908e No.6860315
>>6860243
>Ride becomes noticable when?
#80526b are the tickets
You got them?
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95d50d No.6860340
>>6860243
>>6860315
>#80526b
https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2019/06/04/house-section/article/H4245-4
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a1908e No.6860517
>>6860340
1780 → 1860 → 1940 →
How's that HD vision?
You are the plan.
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8ca2e0 No.6862252
>>6860243
Bitcoin is transparent (as many continue to complain about).
Which means, it can be traced.
Which means it can be frozen in the hands of the Cabal traitors, while it remain free in the hands of freedom-fighting patriots.
"What is money without power."
Money is of no use in a world where patriots are without power. Money is free in a world where patriots are in control.
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6e40fd No.6862278
>>6860243
There are a lot of patriots with a lot of Bitcoin in that 1%.
Best defense is a strong offense.
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8ca2e0 No.6862351
>>6862252
Correction: Bitcoin can't be "frozen" per se (if the criminal has adequately hidden his private keys). But he won't be able to spend it. Either because he's now dead, in jail, or he has to go through another medium (an exchange or bank) to convert it to currency.
Many saw Japan's legalization of Bitcoin as legal currency as heralding greater financial freedom in Japan. But maybe it wasn't about that at all. Maybe that move was really about the Cabal using Japan as a backdoor for the Cabal to wash their Bitcoin. Abe in Iran and his "Salon of the Morning Sun" don't suggest Japan is freed from corruption quite yet.
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8ca2e0 No.6862405
>>6862278
Agreed. There are tens of thousands of freedom-fighting patriots who believed in Bitcoin as a way to shake control of the evil banking Cabal.
That says to me that, if Bitcoin can stabilize and become part of the global financial system, then a lot of money will be in the hands of good people. That would be a refreshing change from the past 5000 years.
I've already resolved that if I can achieve financial independence I'll spend the rest of my life being an anon: researching, meme-ing, truth-telling, writing, fighting, whatever it takes. I'll never work for the Cabal again.
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6e40fd No.6863839
>>6862351
Good points. Some people might not be reading crypto news, but there is an official coordination to require all exchanges around the world in like 74 countries…the only ones that really matter for AML/KYC regs. Only decentralized exchanges will work in the future…and those could be big honeypots.
Honestly, I did a mini-dig last week on the Panama Papers and the Paradise Papers. I think there is gold in them hills…
Speaking of Wizards and Warlocks…What about Magic the Gathering? MTGOX? There's quite a hoard of BTC in Japan. I know Mark is trying to restart/rebrand MTGOX. Is that hoard, which is now his/the companies, going to play a role in helping the world and redeeming his image with the help of Japan…since you mentioned its legalization there…
>>6862405
It won't stablize into the market cap reaches the levels that full adoption requires and the liquidity and other derivatives create a healthy ecosystem around it. It's a process.
>I've already resolved that if I can achieve financial independence I'll spend the rest of my life being an anon: researching, meme-ing, truth-telling, writing, fighting, whatever it takes. I'll never work for the Cabal again.
I like this sentiment. I think we have to take into account our mortality. We need to teach others, the next generation, build relationships and create firewalls against this from happening ever again. Cabal companies without the cabal and a reorg could serve us again. A social network or a bank in which the users are the customers rather than advertisers or central banks/wall street would align incentives and create pretty interesting results. Things like Bitcoin and soon to be newer protocols that aggregate distributed idle resources with 10x or 100x efficiency are going to help give us a new chance.
Deeper than that though to the metaphysical, perhaps this is part of the cycles of evolution: slamming up against hard barriers and pushing through or transcending them or whatever. On one level, we've failed repeatedly over recent history. On another level, considering not only how the cabal but nature or entroy itself conspires against us, I'd say we've come a long way. Overcoming the big pitfalls along the way gets you a throne in the book of history. Fight. Fight. Fight.
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82f5ef No.6864793
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6e40fd No.6871975
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34b8d0 No.6872582
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2cccb7 No.6873673
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e89cd1 No.6878365
Was anyone able to apply the color filter?
If so, what did you see?
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4586b8 No.6879938
>>6878365
>>6878365
I don’t have even a smidgeon of the skills TheGreatAwakeningAnon has, but I’ve taken a stab at your question in the related pics. Did my best to balance size vs resolution, but if you’re phonefagging…you’re gonna need a bigger screen.
Sincerest thanks go out to all anons who have provided answers & confirmations to the questions I’ve asked here…with special shout outs to cbf556 & 5f70f6. Also want to say how much I respect & love (no homo) each & every one of you…especially those who are in harms way in this fight to restore the light of truth, freedom, and justice for all.
If Phase 2 is upon us as >6873673 said, then this last goes out to Q/Q+:
We’re mounted up, have grabbed mane…so let ‘er buck!
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6e40fd No.6884334
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zw-jpVFKMY
Pillars and Checkers
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e89cd1 No.6886132
>>6879938
I'm continually humbled by the intellect here.
…I wonder if applying a color filter using #80526b (plus the water) to the video would result in anything interesting.
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37075e No.6886276
>>6879938
These new designs for a US dollar note is not from the Federal Reserve, the Treasure, the White House, or even America. They're the design work of Belarus (Russia) based graphic artist Andrey Avgust. So, while they're quite pretty, I'm a little confused why you're analyzing them like this.
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e89cd1 No.6886521
>>6886276
Not concerned with the specifics of the design or designer, per se.
“The medium is the message”
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c89513 No.6887918
>>6886521
You're speaking nonsense.
That makes no sense.
You suck.
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c16383 No.6888463
>>6887918
No one else curious what drovr viewcount up so fast?
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6e40fd No.6889650
>>6888463
I bunch of faggots that have been reading the shilling of that site across various platforms for months went to check on the status all at the same time with cleaned out youtube cookies. Pretty simple really.
What's up with gold overnight at provident?
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4586b8 No.6890628
>>6886132
I inferred something else in your question, so apologize that my take didn’t quite fit what you were after…but thanks for the compliment.
Even though I don’t think using #80526b to filter the video is the point, I could be wrong (wouldn’t be 1st time). However, the graphic snagged has a try feature to play with…so you may want to give it a go.
>>>https://trycolors.com/colors/80526b/
>>6834326
Fair comment. However, the American Eagles ARE real US currency & I do believe they are the “keystone” , if you will, in taking out the old fiat…no matter what the final design/color of the new bills turn out to be (though I do like these pretty thangs). Sauce for my reasoning can be found in all discussions surrounding cbf556 anon’s 40 posts in this bread, his 115+ posts as d5955f in Bread #3 & all his posts as 9e323f in Bread #2.
Outside of that, a few major reasons I thought graphically portraying this theory was worth sharing are:
- Rewording 2nd Q cap on Page 1 yields: the “Eye” is FED by many world governments. This infers that Q #2619 could be re-stated as: Gold shall destroy “the Eye”.
- What 2 main cult symbols in drops 182, 184, 189, et al did Q tell us “the Eye” follows?
- We’ve seen POTUS troll “the Eye” numerous times. Some, like the https://youtu.be/G2qIXXafxCQ video Q repeatedly pointed to, are fairly direct; others are more subtle (hand positions, large envelopes held like an apron, etc). This time, however, I saw the combination of Scavino’s pool table pic & the staging of the Oval Office EO signing as a straight up, in your face signifier that Phase 2 started/is starting because of…
“”MNUCHIN!””
Why?
Well…remember the pics of the SecTreas & his hawt wife showing off that uncut sheet of fresh, fiat $1 bills last year? What did anons discover had been removed? Ya think that might’ve been Phase 1 of this operational move?
Everything else just flowed from there & while I will not attempt to forecast when the next act begins, Q has said “Be Ready”…so plan accordingly.
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4586b8 No.6890677
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95d50d No.6892901
>>6890628
>cbf556 anon’s 40 posts in this bread, his 115+ posts as d5955f
10/10 Larp and ID Master
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4586b8 No.6893974
>>6892901
Perhaps.
I just find it interesting that someone with your obviously advanced knowledge on most of the symbology I was pointing at, chose to throw more negative waves at another anon you've unsuccessfully bashed previously…rather than offering a useful critique (whether positive or negative) on the subject matter I was highlighting.
1, 2, 3 strikes & you're out on a high & tight fastball!
Pic Related
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95d50d No.6894059
>>6893974
Transparency is necessary and so is disinfo.
If you look carefully you'll see I have purposefully and fully doxed myself, starting all the way back from bread 1 and into 2,3,4
.
It is not a coincident that Mr. CBF5:56 / D595:5F rolled those ID's.
He thinks he was LARP'ing, however intuition has guided him close to the unfolding truth.
Episode 4391
Stefan Molyneux: The Death of the Dollar: Lynette Zang.
Foundation, Structure and Key are defined there.
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9d400a No.6896067
>>6860223
When's this ride? Gold, silver, platinum down palladium up.
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6e40fd No.6897546
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e575a2 No.6906885
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5e3c46 No.6913482
>>6897546
Anyone else question why 144k? Number is in the talmut and the population size of Ethiopian community in israel
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6e40fd No.6913921
>>6913482
number of immigrants raptured to the promised land in May before we burn this mother fucker to the ground.
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411f5a No.6914227
I have read through this thread trying to understand it and see if anything would answer my question before I asked it. My dad was a big Merrill Lynch man back in the day, but my brain wasn't calibrated for numbers. More the artist type.
What happens to the people holding other currency like the Dinar or the Zim for example? Worthless paper or can something good come out of those also? Ive heard so much about it over the years, I figured this would be a good place to get a solid answer. Thanks
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a5c2b0 No.6915554
>>6914227
>What happens to the people holding other currency?
A currency can exist as one of two options: 1. =BACKED= by a [something] or 2. =NOT= backed by a [something].
The USD is currently on the second option, the NOT backed by any real asset, this is also called a “fiat” currency.
Prior to the FED coming into existence the USD was backed by some form of precious metals - that is to say for every $1 USD, there was [ x ] ounces of [gold / silver / etc.] it could be redeemed for. In other words, the USD was =BASED= upon a fixed exchange rate to precious metals.
Currently currencies “float” against each other. 1 USD may buy .8 GPB today but .9 GPB tomorrow, based on demand. The reason they do so is there’s not a set definition of what the currency is worth (i.e. 1 USD is worth 1oz of Gold and 1 GBP is worth one pound of sterling silver).
If the XUSD were to launch tomorrow with some fixed redemption value to a previous metal, and assuming this was believed by the market, than the old “float” for the”fiat” USD would disappear and be replaced by a ratio similar to whatever the local currency would buy in terms of whatever backed the new XUSD.
For example, ~1,7m Dinars buys ~1,400 USD OR 1oz of Gold today. If the USD is reset with the XUSD and the XUSD is fixed at $25 XUSD to 1OZ of Gold, then ~1.7m Dinars would buy ~25 XUSD OR 1 OZ of gold.
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411f5a No.6916487
>>6915554
Thank you for taking the time to explain that Truly. I recall POTUS saying he was going to level the playing field and make all currencies equal. Is this possible with a reset?
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0c41e3 No.6917809
>>6916487
>level playing field possible with reset?
Guessing yes, but for more than just FX (foreign exchange) reasons.
“Reset” in these threads implies (to me) the termination of using debt to create the monetary supply. Combine that with “Gold shall destroy FED”, a quad-metal base (Silver + Gold + Palladium + Platinum), Q’s hinting structural change coming to the FED, and cbf556 suggested benchmarking 1913 as the closet proxy to where we would otherwise be without the FED and you start to see the following picture.
1. A unit of currency backed by a real assets (i.e. ==BASED==) AG/AU/PD/PT destroys the fiat-forgery-machine.
2. Destroying the fiat-forgery-machine LEVELS the playing field as it stops the invisible evaporation of wealth for the average citizen. $1 in 1913 buys ~$26 worth of stuff today meaning $1 has lost ~96% of it’s value since 1913.
3. Assuming the XUSD will be precious metal based, the value of it will become much harder to manipulate for anyone, including the US. The same would be true of any other currency back by a real asset…aka as being based.
4. What throws me off about the reset is what I mentioned upthread - if they are going to shut down the digital-fiat-forgery-machine but ONLY give out new XUSD for face value of previous metal coins (e.g. AG=$1, AU=$25, PD=$50, PT=$100) or old notes in hand at the 1913-to-201[x] ratio of ~USD_26 to XUSD_01, what people currently count as vast sums of BOTH wealth and debt will vanish in the blink of an eye.
People holding real assets (metal, real estate, etc.) will pull through okay, especially if they took out debt to acquire those assets as the assets will remain but the debt will evaporate. Metal is cashed in at face value. Real estate prices will “normalize” (read: drop) to the REAL price levels without debt artificially pumping up the price but see this as ultimately being a win for debtors.
No idea how stocks will come through but if a company can actually do something that returns value today with fiat currency, it should be able to do the same function and return value post reset which means it will just need to be revalued…or so I would guess. Big assumption here is people are rational actors, which they maybe over the long run, but in the midst of a massive financial upheaval even cool heads can lose their nerve.
Another aspect here are savers. People who are risk adverse and diligently saved into “safe” products under some kind of insurance scheme (think CDs held in an FDIC or NCUA institution) and avoided or paid down their debt. If the digital ledger is being wiped, then the savings of such a person will be wiped. If they are not made whole, then you’re going to have some very upset people. I don’t know what the answer here is but I DO know if such a person life savings suddenly vanishes, they’ll be shocked at first, then then pissed. Really, really, really pissed.
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c9b9e6 No.6946093
They don't have to "force" a Gold Standard, they simply have to wait for the natural backing. Every 60-80 years the price of gold rises in order to cover the value of the Gold held by the Fed/Treasury. And we are due for one. At that point, you simply peg the currency at the new exchange rate and issue new gold backed treasury notes.
So, anon's CPI calculated price of gold in current notes with eventually be a lot higher one the next up leg happens.
So you have two options. Either you wait for the natural correction by a natural run on gold, or you hard peg it at the CPI rate and cause a massive deflationary crash the likes of which the World has never seen before. Both solutions there is pain….lots of pain, but at least in the inflationary crash, people get to walk away with something, rather than a barrel full of irredeemable debt.
https://youtu.be/tj2s6vzErqY?t=2399
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73ed3c No.6952729
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6e40fd No.6953080
>>6952729
https://twitter.com/StormIsUponUs/status/1148258054481178624
fascinating thread
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a4a9a5 No.6954127
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a4a9a5 No.6954134
>>6952729, >>6953080, >>6954127 :: JoeM (TheStormIsUponUs) says BTC, BCH forks of Bitcoin; CSW is the real satoshi.
NOTABLE
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95d50d No.6958276
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68d30e No.6959637
>>6959619
Bigly leak anons
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bdf8db No.6964377
Some good maps of the silly crypto world. Seen some of this stuff in random breads and there's many more connections unearthed here.
News unlocks maps
t.me/Zerononcense
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ccac97 No.6964394
>>6952729
Joe M is such a liar. And so is Craig Wright.
Joe is correct, however, in saying that the BCH fork was an attack on the original Bitcoin.
But Joe M is also all over the place. He's the one who said Bitcoin woudln't be part of The Plan if gold became a pillar of our global financial system again. Totally failing to understand how Bitcoin works (or at least pretending not to understand).
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ccac97 No.6964414
>>6964394
BCH was an insidious Trojan horse. One thing many don't realize is that BCH revealed the Bitcoin holdings of early adopters. Those early adopters who had coins "off the grid," but who grabbed their "free" BCH coins, thereby exposed their wallet addresses. Some of the smartest in the business recognized early that BCH could expose their privacy, so they didn't even bother claiming their free BCH (or Bitcoin Gold).
The Cabal's tricks are starting to backfire on them though.
At this point, there is no cryptocurrency I'd trust except Bitcoin. Maybe some scam-coins will be rehabilitated by White Hats (once Charlie Lee is jail, for example). But until then, stick to the Dow, USD and gold, and if you're brave, get some crypto but only if it's real Bitcoin.
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6e40fd No.6965376
>>6954127
>>6954134
>>6953080
>fascinating thread
I'm not saying I agree, just to be clear. Fascination is not an endorsement. I continue to doubt Craig and BSV.
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1c0654 No.6965382
>>6964414
if BCH was an insidious trojan horse to p2p electronic cash I'd love to hear what you think of SegWit and Blockstream>>6964414
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6e40fd No.6965476
>>6965382
I just think Bitcoin Jesus is a fraud, a homo, and a fake libertarian/anarchocapitalist. Just a real piece of shit in general.
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d3829a No.6966037
>>6965476
I don't necessarily disagree with anything you're saying but imo at the time of the fork BCH was clearly more Bitcoin than BTC, and at the time of the second fork BSV was more Bitcoin than BCH.
Is it wise to completely disregard a message based solely on the flaws of the messenger?
I will say that he's rather irrelevant now regardless, along with BCH
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6e40fd No.6967347
>>6966037
>Is it wise to completely disregard a message based solely on the flaws of the messenger?
He's proven absolutely nothing. He's got himself into a real problem. He can prove it or he can't. BSV, IMHO, relies on that. He message means nothing. I can say that I'm Satoshi and invent another fork. Doesn't. mean. shit.
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59446a No.6975122
>>6965476
Rover Ver is a Satanic agent for rogue agencies.
So is his good buddy, Craig Wright.
These scams were just a way to undermine Bitcoin, rob us, and DIVIDE the people into manufactured "crypto wars."
Remember Ver's ridiculous fake interview by John Carvalho? These are just performances. Then Charlie Lee (another fake) goes on John Carvalho's YT channel and promises not to "rage quit" like Roger did. Why are all these billionaires going on that Carvalho scumbag's lame YT video?
It's all a big show and lots of people fell for it. You got to admit, the performances were pretty convincing. They successfully in generated billions for the Cabal through scam-coins and a lot of confusion in general.
Just think how much easier would it have been if everyone just worked on making Bitcoin better?
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6e40fd No.6977484
>>6975122
Pedo all over their faces, especially crying bitcoin antijesus.
Ver: criminal and abandoned his citizenship to live in japan with a st. kitts and nevis citizenship.
tell us more about the Caribbean, Roger!
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676f62 No.6978257
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>6977484
Luperon - "children go out and don't come back "
"Where is Mike Pence? Were He and Fellow Pedophile John Sununu Planning FOTO? (*)"
01:14:21 boat fags got MOAR Capt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMAZtwThcBc&feature=youtu.be
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6e40fd No.6978598
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27ed66 No.6979071
>>6978598
Ya Brock Pierce and his pal Mark Collins-Rector have their feet firmly planted in the Satanic pedo cult as well as in the Cabal's cryptocurrency scams.
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a1908e No.6989036
>>6975122
>They successfully in generated billions for the Cabal through scam-coins
They swallowed the contrasting agent hook, line, and sinker….
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a1908e No.6989162
>>6964414
>Trojan horse
2014 = Year of the wooden horse
Anyways:
-July 4th Kali goes boom (6.4)
-July 6th Epstein arrested (6-6 @ age 66)
I smell a chess board getting tipped over…
Digital Fiat Forgery machine literally smoking.
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95d50d No.6989618
>6989162
>Doesn't know July is the seventh month of the year.
>Thinks people still believe his nonsensical ramblings
>t.144,000 brainlet
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6e40fd No.6990470
>>6989036
this starts with the consulting companies. they're all ivy league yes-tards that invent bullshit schemes to fire people and promote "solutions". if they are full of enough shit, they get promoted to the firms private equity or venture capital spin offs. Consulting needs to be regulated. They have tentacles and eyes in EVERYTHING with zero accountability.
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6e40fd No.6992042
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a1908e No.6999447
>>6989618
>muh gregorian
So many greedy fat pigs just waiting for their undeniable fate…
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6e40fd No.7002016
144,000=# of bitcoin FBI seized from Ross Ulbrecht
https://www.coindesk.com/ross-ulbricht-drops-claim-millions-raised-silk-road-bitcoin-auctions
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4b481f No.7002062
DJT just called out crypto because it is the most obvious cabal money laundering scheme ever created.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1149472282584072192
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6e40fd No.7002110
>>7002062
Classic FUD.
There is so much going on in that set of tweets as well as the context that Powell mentioned Bitcoin today too in somewhat of a positive/neutral light. Read between the lines for nuance or GTFO.
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a1908e No.7002189
>>7002110
Let me help you read between the lines:
United (New) States (Notes) Dollar
Digital Fiat Forgery machine triggered foeva and eva…
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4b481f No.7002204
>>7002110
found a sucker who wants to pass the ball another sucker, did you buy in at 20k? all those mcdonalds wagies you put into it?
maybe apply some logic. Who runs Bitfinex? Who runs Tether? Who owns The Economist? Which country benefits enormously from Bitcoin? Who owns the biggest crypto wallets?
Bitcoin is a DARPA/CIA scheme and the planned NWO currency before Trump passed the executive order freezing assets of human trafficking - and surprise, Bitcoin CRASHED immediately after. now tether just prints billions and exchanges transfer the tether in backdoors for endless pump & dumps to take niggers money and use it to fund their operations
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4b481f No.7002240
>>7002189
and bitcoin only has 'value' from its ratio to Reserve Notes you imbecile. literally a giant ponzi scheme and the value is determined by Spoofy and Bitfinex (ran by spooks)
If you can't see that Trump is working to restructure the USD and get us back on the gold standard, what the fuck are you doing shilling for crypto on QRB?
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a1908e No.7002273
>>7002240
There is only one future fren.
US new notes backed by Ag, Pd, Au, and Pt
Try to keep up.
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a1908e No.7002387
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6e40fd No.7002494
>>7002189
hey faggot, what was right before that tweet?
SAFE
https://safenetwork.tech/
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6e40fd No.7002554
>>7002273
I'm up to date on what's been suggested. I've seen little logic behind it. Plus, platinum and especially palladium are ridiculous choices for backing money. I've just seen a classic clown shill attempt at driving a narrative about 4 metals again and again and again. Nothing of substance.
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6e40fd No.7002628
>>7002204
not calling for bitcoin to back the dollar. it's fine just as it is. more regulation would be nice and 99% of the shitcoins can go to hello.
Bitcoin crashed because after every 10000% move it falls 90%. The last crash wasn't any different. It didn't fall because of the E.O. Just stop it.
As for tether, I'm no fan, but the tokenized dollars would be fine if we get regs around them. Sure beats swift or this new euro-iran network.
You all are all black or white, but I'm thinking just black at this point.
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a1908e No.7002730
>>7002628
>You all are all black or white,
#80526b
You would think again and again and again you would have heard.
Stay triggered
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a1908e No.7002841
>>7002628
>not calling for bitcoin to back the dollar
It is the other way around fren. Always has been. BTC is an extension of the fiat forgery machine. Looks like you are over extended…again.
The future = BASED
It takes only one prick to pop a bubble.
IN GOD WE TRUST
https://www.newyorkfed.org/microeconomics/hhdc.html
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6e40fd No.7002846
>>7002730
He's not a fan of Bitcoin. So what?
He's not a fan of other cryptos. Neither am I for most of them.
They definitely aren't money.
They are highly volatile.
Based on thin air? Air is an important commodity too.
Key word="unregulated"
drugs, lawlessness, etc. old news FUD. USD?
none of what he said is against Bitcoin as a whole. Only against Bitcoin in reference to the us dollar…and maybe gold. He doesn't have to like it, but he's also not saying that he's going to ban it. It's ridiculous to be so against it. The smartest people in the world, and yes some bad people but not all, are working in crypto. To dismiss it outright because you can't decipher if Potus is saying NO to Bitcoin on the whole or just saying he doesn't like it like he does gold because Powell mentioned it earlier today in a hearing. Narrow minded as hell, clown.
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6e40fd No.7002859
>>7002841
Bitcoin is a response to the forgery. It's not a solution. Just a response.
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a1908e No.7002874
>>7002846
>To dismiss it outright because you can't decipher
Really you must stop. It's unhealthy.
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74a0a4 No.7002893
>>7002846
From QResearch >>7002684
Bitcoin might finally be making an entrance into the conversation about The Plan. At least in an introductory way. I don't think Trump has ever mentioned Bitcoin before, has he? Certainly Q hasn't.
This is complex and won't get many eyes. It's probably is better suited to an academic paper than an 8Chan post, but here goes…
The initial reference by the President to Bitcoin is on its face unfavorable. He says, "I am not a fan of Bitcoin and other Cryptocurrencies, which are not money, and whose value is highly volatile and based on thin air."
Since when do Anons take any utterance at face value.
I think it's worth keeping in mind that the President has made seemingly contradictory statements on many other things before, and always for good reason. The dollar should be stronger. The dollar should be weaker. The gold standard is a good thing. Trump doesn't really support a gold standard (according to Trump representative).
And apparently, the President "doesn't personally believe in UFOs." Cough, cough.
Disinfo really is necessary.
Now I'm not saying that we can really know what role Bitcoin has to play in The Plan, if any. However there are many indications it does actually have SOME role to play.
I find it especially interesting that Trump's apparent critique of Bitcoin in his tweet that it's "based on thin air" echoes the critiques of the worst of the Cabal, like Jamie Dimon and others. Further, it's always worth considering whether something is GOOD FOR US based on how the Cabal reacts to it, and one thing is for sure, the Cabal has HATED Bitcoin from the beginning. So you have to ask why. Yes, certain Cabal agents, like John McAfee, have expressed loud support of Bitcoin, but these voices have mainly been at the margins, preaching to the choir (Internet back-channel conversations about crypto).
To me, saying that Bitcoin is "based on thin air" is so patently misguided as a statement that I have to believe that Trump is trolling the Cabal (and perhaps also warning patriots of very stormy seas ahead). Trump is so much smarter than this simple statement, as we all understand very well. We are watching a stable genius playing multi-dimensional chess. He knows that real money is not intrinsically backed by anything except its exceptional money-ness.
Cont'd…
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74a0a4 No.7002902
>>7002893
cont'd from above…
The best money always has been and always will be a perfect ledger for real wealth and nothing more. For a long time, gold was the closest thing we had to being the perfect money. But here is the hardest thing people will have to understand in order to break the brainwashing about money itself: in fact, ANY QUALITY OTHER THAN a currency's qualities as a "perfect money" DETRACTS from its perfect money-ness. Such as intrinsic "commodity" value. Such as silver. Which is also so effective in many ways as money, as exhibited through history, but not quite perfect enough, especially when you consider that it has critical commodity applications, in electronics for example. Mobile phones depend on silver. So when a money is also a critical commodity to our survival, does that make it better or worse as money? We have always been told that a money's corresponding value in OTHER ways (its commodity value) is something that increases the money's effectiveness as money. Yes, these commodity qualities increase its DESIRABILITY as a NECESSITY, in and of itself, that is certain. But what if this only reinforces THE PEOPLE'S willingness to back the money, but doesn't actually improve the money's effectiveness as a perfect money – that is if something could be perfect money in all other ways without being something we otherwise needed in our lives, THE PEOPLE could still decide between themselves (the hive mind) that this money shall be the ultimate measure of our wealth.
This part is hard to understand. It's an abstraction. But money itself is an abstraction. Of our wealth. We have to expand our thinking and see it with new eyes. I'm arguing this: being a critical commodity to our lives improves the effectiveness of something as money only to a degree, because at what point does something become TOO NECESSARY and thereby FAIL as money? For example, if silver were to become important to zero point energy, and therefore every single accessible ounce on the planet were regarded as something far, far too valuable to be tied up in coinage or vaults, then suddenly its commodity value actually detracts from its perfect money-ness. So you see something can be TOO BACKED BY SOMETHING OTHER THAN AIR, and thereby FAIL as money. Similarly, barrels of wheat, which do indeed rot but which are necessary to prevent famine, have been used historically as money but which actually fail as perfect money, not only because they rot, but because WE EAT THEM. You should not eat your money. That DETRACTS from the ability of the wheat to serve as a PERFECT LEDGER of real wealth, measuring what you have earned, spent or saved. As soon as your money is being consumed, in ANY QUANTITY, either by eating it or using it for its commodity value in electronics, it lessens its value as money. How do you measure the welath of the world when portions of it fluctuate in quantity because of the money's own intrinsic value in OTHER respects OTHER THAN its ability to function perfectly as money?
Bitcoin is not backed by thin-air. Bitcoin is backed up by its miraculous perfection as an un-hackable virtual (online) ledger for real wealth and nothing more. That's all it offers, and that's all it should offer, and no other money has ever offered that, so it's not surprising it's hard for us to fully understand. Bitcoin can't be counterfeited (like gold), and it can't be printed to infinity by a corrupt bank or government (like digital national fiat currencies). That is the ONLY thing we really want for our money, which is something WE THE PEOPLE give its power and value to, as a measure not of the intrinsic commodity value in the money itself but as its measure of what we all agree is your real wealth, my real wealth, a corporation's real wealth, a country's real wealth. That is the only thing money is measuring, and Bitcoin does that better than any money in history, at least in a digital world. And then it must be something which we can trade easily between ourselves, and while gold worked well in ancient times and today still works for big countries dealing in tons of gold, we all recognize that it doesn't work well as between individuals on a day to day basis.
Cont'd…
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74a0a4 No.7002912
>>7002902
cont'd from above…
So gold is still amazing, and we will probably go to some gold standard, as it does things no other money does (with limited if any commodity applications THAT WE KNOW OF). In the real, physical, non-virtual world, gold is still king of the moneys. Paper dollar bills BACKED BY A RESPONSIBLE GOVERNMENT is the best money for transacting day to day between people in real life. But both gold and paper dollar bills have serious handicaps that are cured by Bitcoin.
Honestly I'm not saying buy Bitcoin. In fact, I would say the President might be warning there is trouble ahead for Bitcoin, at least in terms of it's listed price. But I don't take that statement as a categorical nail in the coffin for Bitcoin's future. Personally, I still believe Bitcoin has some important role to play, after the rest totally toxic, corrupted cryptocurrency environment has been cleansed of its almost total infiltration by the Cabal. The Cabal has spent 10 years infiltrating and corrupting the cryptocurrency space in order to bring down Bitcoin. That's the threat Bitcoin really poses to [them]. Today I have no idea what the price of Bitcoin should be, nor what it will be, nor when it might reveal itself as part of the Plan.
Or it won't. In either event, humanity is being freed, and that's the only payoff I want anyhow.
END
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6e40fd No.7003427
>>7002874
Funny, I actually am eating pizza at the moment…just not the kind you guys eat over in McLean.
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6e40fd No.7006130
>>7002874
Not saying a see it one way or the other, but this image is definitely about the famous Bitcoin Pizza. That a number of these people are depicted as pedos…and a few might even be, especially Ver…doesn't count out another theory: that the cabal run the Bitcoin media and want to control the narrative of Bitcoin by painting it with their own sins. Fuck that. The 3 part "thesis" above points out well that the cabal has hated bitcoin from the beginning.
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6e40fd No.7006164
>>7002902
For the normies, Trump needs to be seen loving the US through the USD. He can shift blame onto the FED from there as the USD devalues.
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c4209f No.7009472
>>6967347
Wild theory - the Cabal's plan
Libra was always supposed to be the one world currency.
Bitcoin was created by white hats as a backup plan. The original way Bitcoin was created and distributed for the first few years did not make sense to becoming an eventual one world currency…too many coins in the hands of anarchist and freedom types
Cabal hijacked BTC during Obama's term in retaliation
HRC's 1st term contains a planned currency crash caused by an engineered catastrophic event in the 16 year plan, like World War 3 with Iran or NK, and push Libra as a false flag private sector alternative to the collapsing fiat in the worldwide depression
Final conditions, every citizen's money is linked to a social credit system on a worldwide scale
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6e40fd No.7016845
>>7009472
sauce?
>Wild theory - the Cabal's plan
>Libra was always supposed to be the one world currency.
Maybe, though it's blockchain inspired so…
>Bitcoin was created by white hats as a backup plan. The original way Bitcoin was created and distributed for the first few years did not make sense to becoming an eventual one world currency…too many coins in the hands of anarchist and freedom types
by white hats or grey hats, but a good campaign of real action and winning heats and minds draws better lines in the sand.
>Cabal hijacked BTC during Obama's term in retaliation
not sure if that is true, partially true, or if true would continue to be true into the future. we're at war, remember?
>HRC's 1st term contains a planned currency crash caused by an engineered catastrophic event in the 16 year plan, like World War 3 with Iran or NK, and push Libra as a false flag private sector alternative to the collapsing fiat in the worldwide depression
details aside, libra is definitely the proposed cattle drive destination
>Final conditions, every citizen's money is linked to a social credit system on a worldwide scale
second to last step. last is cancel all, kill off a bunch of people, and create a slave class like ancient egypt while the whores of babylon paint their tits with gold leaf that any of your surviving progeny dig up with their raw and bleeding fingernails…right before being tortured and sacrificed to the gods.
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a1908e No.7017886
>>7002859
Bitcoin was created by Sn (tin) man as bait for the cabal so that they could kick "the can" down the road a bit longer. Hence the rabid infestation of all things crypto by them. It is rather simple. The reason why Q or POTUS (up to this point) hasn't mentioned it because the trap was meant to be full before emptying. The only thing to carry on is blockchain.
>>6913921
>number of immigrants raptured
>>7002110
>nuance
Donald Trump: Immigration raids begin Sunday, will target criminals 'as much as we can'
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/12/trump-immigration-raids-start-sunday-target-criminals/1712690001/
"Unregulated Crypto Assets can facilitate unlawful behavior, including drug trade and other illegal activity…."
As always, tickets or bust.
#80526b
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a5c2b0 No.7018539
>>7017722
>While this is happening on one side of China’s national ledger sheet, on the other side something completely different is happening. China reentered the gold market seven months ago, in December 2018 and has added a little less than 74 tons to their official gold holdings of approximately 1,935+ tons of gold. Please keep in mind this does not count the known 80-100 tons per annum that is flowing in from Russia. While this is not a large volume of gold in the grand scheme, this has been going on since 2016 so we are now talking about upwards of 240 – 300 additional tons. This changes their “official” gold holdings from approximately 1,935 tons to somewhere north of 2,175+. It could be as high as 2,235 or more tons of gold.
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4edd76 No.7021761
>>7017886
>The only thing to carry on is blockchain
>The only thing to carry on is blockchain
perplexing
our identities will be our currency
re potus/q: all it boils down to is good vs evil
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fd46ce No.7024813
>>7017886
More ride nonsense. I was rooting for you larp but your prediction was forced and weeks later we're still here waiting for your ride.
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6e40fd No.7027014
>>7024813
beyond that, it seems like the new fed appointee might have an opening for looking at the value of bitcoin and blockchain.
"the ride" is on a tiny mossad dick.
that's my best hypothesis. 1% of the world knew about Bitcoin. Trump tweets and now the whole world knows and they're researching it and reading lots of intelligent pro-bitcoin comments. he just brought about 5 huge subjects together in 3 tweets to drive the news cycle for a couple days. The larp just takes the tweets on face value. fucking idiot.
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6e40fd No.7046824
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Real Vision: Why We Need Both Gold and Bitcoin (w/ Roy Sebag)
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f59094 No.7047072
>>7046824
It seems like only yesterday…
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862594 No.7047113
My plan for post NWO banking is stake the deflationary bridgecoin (BCO) and receive free bitcoin every 2 weeks.
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95d50d No.7047420
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13eda5 No.7048244
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e3284c No.7048838
>>7047072
Spinquark.com was just announced on Glenn becks radio program . He’s asking people to make this go viral…
It shines light on how the DS is using social media to exert it’s influence on the people. Very disturbing connections made…
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6e40fd No.7049009
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6e40fd No.7049048
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152f04 No.7049076
>>7048838
https://www.spinquark.com/welcome-to-social-government/
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6e40fd No.7049193
PARSEC lead from Maidsafe scooped up by Twitter.
Twitter going decentralized?
CHEVALIER=Knight=Horseman
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6e40fd No.7056187
somebody feels the need to support the MAID price at an interesting level. This is 10x the largest about I've ever seen…and even that was only once, and we're pretty sure it was Brock Pierce dumping 1-2 years ago…
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a1908e No.7057263
>>7027014
>Trump tweets and now the whole world knows and they're researching it and reading lots of intelligent pro-bitcoin comments.
They only chase the king….king dollar
No one is doing what you propose after he tweeted. Quite the opposite.
Perhaps it's time for you to stop living the virtual life and start taking things at face value?
Leave the translation to the adults.
>enter all of /biz/ in 3…2…1…
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6e40fd No.7057366
>>7057263
>Leave the translation to the adults.
AKA
"Trust the Boomers"
KEK
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ce81b5 No.7059665
>>7002893
BTC generally satisfies accepted definitions of money. POTUS is most definitely playing chess here.
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6bc38d No.7060593
Christine LaGarde schemes and connections.
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56d96f No.7061029
#9033
>>7059554 Planefag Update
>>7059556 Louisiana Congressman: ‘I’ll Pay’ for Those Congresswomen to Leave
>>7059575, >>7059579 Notes from reporter's pool report on the meeting with Acosta.
>>7059658 With no evidence, Nunes warns that Democrats are colluding with Mueller to create ‘narrative’
>>7059753 Projection: Full text of House resolution condemning Trump's 'racist comments
>>7059781 Video: The Wexner and Epstein Connection
>>7059863 Chad Pergram tweets
>>7059782, >>7059893 More on the Seth Rich related filing
>>7059905 Reminder of Placeholders
>>7059923 Anon on Laura Silsby possible connection to Epstein
>>7059952 Trump abortion rule deals 'devastating blow' to Planned Parenthood, group say
>>7059953, >>7060054 Feds announce indictment against 22 suspected MS13 LosAngeles gang members arrested
>>7059964 Salvini says he flagged ‘Ukrainian group’s death threat,’ leading to neo-Nazi missile bust
>>7060022 Off the Radar: Private Planes Hidden From Public View
>>7060049 Epstein’s New Mexico Property
>>7060150 Rand Paul backs POTUS
>>7060218 Claim: Trump Critic Ambassador Himself Leaked Secret Intelligence
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a1908e No.7064532
>>7057366
>"Trust the Boomers"
-Sees a boomers tweet
-Doesn't like what it says
-Hears another person back it up
-Re translates it to fit his bias
-says "Trust the Boomers"
-realizes error in logic
That last one is a big maybe…
>>7059665
>wrong graphic
Let me know when I should buy GOOG. I just heard DJT say something about it.
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a5c2b0 No.7065354
>>7060532
[ / ] Bank run rumored.
https://archive.fo/OQQRV
There is a reason James Simons' RenTec is the world's best performing hedge fund - it spots trends (even if they are glaringly obvious) well ahead of almost everyone else, and certainly long before the consensus.
That's what happened with Deutsche Bank, when as we reported two weeks ago, the quant fund pulled its cash from Deutsche Bank as a result of soaring counterparty risk, just days before the full - and to many, devastating - extent of the German lender's historic restructuring was disclosed, and would result in a bank that is radically different from what Deutsche Bank was previously (see "The Deutsche Bank As You Know It Is No More").
In any case, now that RenTec is long gone, and questions about the viability of Deutsche Bank are swirling - yes, it won't be insolvent overnight, but like the world's biggest melting ice cube, there is simply no equity value there any more - everyone else has decided to cut their counterparty risk with the bank with the €45 trillion in derivatives, and according to Bloomberg Deutsche Bank clients, mostly hedge funds, have started a "bank run" which has culminated with about $1 billion per day being pulled from the bank.
As a result of the modern version of this "bank run", where it's not depositors but counterparties that are pulling their liquid exposure from DB on fears another Lehman-style lock up could freeze their funds indefinitely, Deutsche Bank is considering how to transfer some €150 billion ($168 billion) of balances held in it prime-brokerage unit - along with technology and potentially hundreds of staff - to French banking giant BNP Paribas. (See link above for full article).
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81f52f No.7068430
>>7059665
Trying to imagine a successful money having a 100% fee to send a few USD. Shit I waited too long now it's 200%. There goes divisibility as when I divide my coins their purchasing power drops.
BTC narrative astroturfing is becoming more embarrassing and ridiculous by the day.
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c37dcd No.7068696
>>7068430
>buy high sell low
>>6975122
You are fucking ridiculous, Bitcoin will eventually collapse. its not sustainable, and requires too much energy to use.
All the liquidity of bitcoin and tether will fall onto alts.
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6e40fd No.7068758
>>7068696
>its not sustainable, and requires too much energy to use.
https://meaww.com/porn-netflix-amazon-prime-online-video-streaming-pornography-carbon-dioxide-emissions
https://sputniknews.com/science/201907131076235927-porn-carbon-dioxide-emissions-research/
How's that "liquidity falling into alts" working out?
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6e40fd No.7068855
>>7064532
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/16/i-like-bitcoin-says-house-gop-leader-mccarthy-hits-facebook-libra.html
-Reads Trump statement on Bitcoin
-Agrees because confirmation bias (and cabal shill)
-Watches McCarthy interview
-Can't agree although should agree because shill role is pro-Trump
-Internal contradiction doesn't compute, shill BTFO right after attacking thinkers that don't drink the koolaid.
You're a sick fuck with this censoring clown tactic bullshit all thread long. no digging, just shilling and parroting entitled opinions. GTFO already.
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c37dcd No.7070250
>>7068758
Netflix provides a service you dipshit, what does bitcoin do?
All it does is suck up electricity, it's quickly becoming largest drain of electricity in the world and a huge waste of resources to maintain. Bitcoin is legacy crypto, it was a proof of concept only it is not here to stay indefinitely. Ride the coin until its high and cash out into other alts who are here to stay. Like XRP.
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d18b37 No.7071275
SILVER is a fueled up Rocket Ship! 🚀
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d18b37 No.7071320
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fd46ce No.7071453
>>7068696
The part about bitcoin most of you fail to understand is what's needed to keep it useful. The reason petrodollar became the standard was because it had the lowest cost of needs to survive as at that point we had all the tools made to meet demand and just needed oil source. Before that gold was the standard but under fractional reserve to keep the production down.
Bitcoin requires:
1) internet, which requires electricity in multiple locations
2) miners (cpu mining is dead), which requires hardware manufacturing and raw materials.
Look at those prerequisites and what those prereq's NEED and tell me if that doesn't rely on government?
Now ask yourself what a government is if it doesn't control it's currency? Why would government use an anonymous system?
Why would government adopt bitcoin if it didn't hold a huge piece? If it didn't hold any and switched america would be broke to who ever held it. If we held it it means we had something to do with it early on and other nations won't adopt it for the same reason we wouldn't use it if we didn't hold.
Makes no sense to believe bitcoin is a USA future currency. I believe it's a NWO future currency and I can also imagine it might be the cure to what ever future NWO currency would be if it wasn't btc. But I don't see any way USA will adopt it unless we're still NWO.
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a1908e No.7071637
>>7068855
>GTFO already
This is only the beginning.
#80526b is here to stay.
It cannot be stopped.
You still watching those tweets?
>>7070250
-Realtime BTC energy consumption
https://www.cbeci.org/
"Bitcoin consumes more energy than the entire nation of Switzerland"
>muh Earth
Who cares about the ones that NEED power right?
https://www.iea.org/sdg/
>>7071275
POTUS verified.
Ride confirmed!
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6e40fd No.7071641
>>7070250
>it's quickly becoming largest drain of electricity in the world
waiting for the luddite to talk to us about global warming.
AOC, we've only got 12 years. Leave the Bitcoiners alone.
Legacy crypto, maybe. First movers advantage is a big deal. Also, trust. What other chain hasn't been full of scandal and has been distributed in a reasonably fair way without wildly enriching the backers in an ICO. Who the hell is going to trust that problem. Better chance that Bitcoin will innovate or at least just flat out rob a better tech from one of the other chains. Consensus is hard for any changes, but if push came to shove, a new algo would be adopted and Bitcoin would retain it's status in the crypto world. A 10-100x innovation is needed to disrupt it and I see that mere potential in one 1 project that is out there.
XRP is essentially WallStreetCoin. There's nothing decentralized about it. It has lots of interesting atributes, but not the key ones that are behind the whole point of crypto. It's not even a 10x move beyond fiat. The FED will create something easy enough just with a digital dollar to annihilate XRP and all the other centralized alts. Liquidity is LEAVING alts. People finally figured out that most are scams and a shortlist are just testbeds that will never turn overcome cryptogold, cryptosilver, or Web 3.0. Blockchain will be a cost reduction tech for business and government. Bitcoin will bridge a new monetary regime. The broader category of distributed consensus will result in a web 3.0 what will revert the data for free stuff business model of the internet and directly monetize the data for people to use at their own discretion. Data is the new oil and the whole directionality of the new monetary regime will be on how to monetize and transact in that world. In an oil world, you can base the currency with a physical commodity. In the digital world at least, you have to monetize the data digitally to base the currency. Fiat or bridges like centralized tokens or even credit cards will all fail at that in the long run. The internet is only becoming a bigger and bigger market…and attack surface. It's catch up time and people can place their bets where they may. Shitcoins are shitcoins for a reason, but feel free to continue not doing the homework and research but just parroting the cooked up notions of value from some self-interested consulting firm.
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6e40fd No.7071651
>>7071453
>The reason petrodollar became the standard was because it had the lowest cost
"War is cheap"
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c37dcd No.7071716
>>7071641
hur dur hur gwoabal woming
Fuck off kid, You need to stop being so emotional about bitcoin and only focus on your own financial gain.
XRP is actually more decentralized than bitcoin, Who owns bitcoin? Anyone who can have the highest hashing power, which is currently China.
Who owns xrp? No one. even if the company ripple went out of business it would still function.
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d1a9a7 No.7072039
>>7071320
cbf556 please elaborate on the VND fren, thx
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6e40fd No.7073074
>>7071453
>Look at those prerequisites and what those prereq's NEED and tell me if that doesn't rely on government?
Government relies on the internet. You think they'll shut it down to stop Bitcoin? Funny.
That Bitcoin mining requires specialization is a threat? Do you personally mine for gold? It's called a market. Monopoly and collusion mining are worrisome, but not all barriers to entry are oppressive; natural growth hierarchies are developmental and beneficial.
Cash is far more anonymous than crypto so far.
What is a government if it doesn't control the currency??? What is a free people if it doesn't control it's own government is the important question. You've got your ass and you head switched around. A government doesn't need to control the currency. It just needs a stable currency to collect taxes and do large scale planning. Tariffs solve the problem of foreign intervention and help keep the playing field level. Why force people into bonds when fixed supply money produces a deflation dividend? You can still have a bond market, but it won't imprison the pension system into buying yield without regard to quality. It's the black hole of the bond market that is distorting time and space because of shit fiat money.
The new financial regime, whatever it is, will be phased in and it will be a participatory process. It's our government. While they're going to force consensus toward real and healthy monetary ideas, there's plenty of room for public participation…at least if you still think they're restoring the republic with a new government…
Bitcoin doesn't need to be currency, especially the US currency. It's not black and white. As a mere commodity with in-demand attributes, merely as a portfolio diversifier of a few percent, the universe of retirement accounts with an ETF would make the thing skyrocket. But I agree, the government probably does have a big chunk. And as more and more politicians speak about it, it's clear that people in the government are holding it.
I'm not dumb enough to say I can predict the future, but the level of autism and nuance in this thread is really lacking lately.
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6e40fd No.7073145
>>7071716
>hur dur hur gwoabal woming
You're the douche worried about muh resources, muh electricity. Who gives a shit. Econ 101. If it's too much at some point, the system adjusts, right? Or tell us more about your Limits to Growth conference with the Club of Rome…
Ripple gives away XRP so more people will use XRP. That tell you what a money is worth. If Ripple went out of business, people would sell XRP. Short it. You can thank me later.
Bitcoin has the highest hashing power? Are you looking at charts from 2014?
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ffe65a No.7079946
>>7073074
Government doesn't rely on anything it does t have control over. Gov doesn't use internet it has arpanet. You see military prefixes on the bgp table?
Comcast broke BitTorrent until gov stepped in you think gov can't step in and make isps meddle with btc headers? What happens to btc when transactions clog up?
Of we use btc world wide, what's to stop China from turning off CenturyLink or claim a cyber attack took them down to cripple a foreign government?
You clearly assume a lot about how the internet stack works.
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03b23e No.7083630
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a1908e No.7089543
>>7072039
All will kneel to the balance.
https://silverprice.org/silver-price-vietnam.html
In the land of forex all will become relative.
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6e40fd No.7089947
>>7079946
You clearly assume that there aren't workarounds. That technology is stagnant, and that innovation is not worth it. I've got a horse drawn plow to sell to you.
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6e40fd No.7089975
>>7079946
>You clearly assume a lot about how the internet stack works.
The stack is fucked.
Something else is coming. Bitcoin can adjust and try to compete. That's all that's happening. Your individual sentiment doesn't really matter.
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fd46ce No.7095592
>>7089947
>You clearly assume that there aren't workarounds.That technology is stagnant, and that innovation is not worth it.I've got a horse drawn plow to sell to you.
I'd buy it because I farm we don't use tractors for farms feed less than a town.
Nothing you wrote is more than a general sense of hope in some assumption you made in the past. I'm well aware of how tech's evolved, I've run IT for billion dollar startups in the "tech" field. I've formed partnerships with internet providers as I've created many autonomous networks. Hell I've even hired the first network engineer from Twitter. It's all based on math and blind trust in things you can not audit.
There's no such thing as encryption by it's definition, everything can be cracked it's just a matter of how long it takes. It's all obfuscation, a tactic to deter the ability to meddle with information transparently.
Because of this BTC will never be secure from sovereign states. Once the code is out, states know encryption used and can deter it. There's no ability to push encryption "evolution" fast enough to stay ahead of it's opposition. You still need REGULATED INTERNET to be able to even download BTC programs, you need to run it on a device, and your government has control over which devices you have access to as well as which ISP's operate.
If governments adopted a public chain citizens can interact with, there'd be no reason for them to not setup a contingency plan and kill the protocol when their enemies relied on it the most.
Maybe you understand some tech, I doubt it's most, but you've shared nothing but you're feelings so there's no reason to believe this is something you can even argue one way or another. If you understood the purpose of governments and how they serve that purpose, you'd easily see how btc doesn't survive unless governments stand down.
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6e40fd No.7103572
>>7095592
>you've shared nothing but you're feelings so there's no reason to believe this is something you can even argue one way or another.
Isn't this the Ilhan Omar strategy? Just say the exact same thing back to the people accusing you? She's just a retard…
I've given tons of info to help people dig and decide on their own. You just spew opinions and claims without evidence, toss out a bit of "appeal to muh authority" and whatnot. I don't need to doxx myself to make a point. You've just, once again, made it for me. Thanks.
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c61f49 No.7120166
>>7103572
Lol. "claims without evidence". Of what? That internet is regulated? That Comcast meddled with torrent protocol? That netneutrality doesn't exist? You merely cited a vague word to encapsulate your argument and now want me to disprove it despite you writing so generally that nothing ever could.
Ever heard of the rumor government tech is 50+ years ahead of the public sector? If you believe it you can't believe the public will ever have anything the government can't control.
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e8e663 No.7120691
>>4349794 >>4598065
47th element in the periodic table is Ag; silver.
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6e40fd No.7121767
>>7120166
I don't want you to disprove anything. I never discounted any of the things you mentioned. The strawman is unnecessary. I only want you to either GTFO or contribute something of substance rather than attacking my information with empty rhetoric just because it doesn't align with your bias toward an analog-only future.
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dd840d No.7122812
https://www.asiacryptotoday.com/iran-announces-gold-backed-national-cryptocurrency
Iran launching gold backed crypto?
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95d50d No.7127854
>>7122812
Good for them.
Iran is not the enemy, no matter how much MSM tries to choke it down your throat.
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f613a4 No.7129280
No one noticed the capitalized Common, Sense, and Washington?
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6e40fd No.7129305
>>7129280
2 days early even…
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6e40fd No.7129453
>>7129280
http://bluelineis.com/about-us/
Connect Kleiman in Palm Beach who worked with Palm Beach PD to Michael Fisten, the detective from Miami who worked as a PI on the Epstein case in Palm Beach.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Kleiman
https://www.davekleiman.com/dcar.html
2019? who's updating that page?
https://web.archive.org/web/20070214123237/http://www.castlecops.com/
castle.
they kind of look alike…
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fd46ce No.7131400
>>7121767
>or contribute something of substance
I don't know where your head is to make this statement after what I shared. Maybe it's too complex for you to grasp or maybe you dismissed most of it and never pieced it together.
It's pretty clear crypto depends on government and there's no way to get between that. Crypto relies on electricity, internet, raw materials and manufacturing. All gov regulated. gov can stop it any time and I even recall reading about China teasing breaking it up years ago. So I fail to see how it'll take off. US won't adopt unless they have control or a large share and other countries wont join if US joins for the reasons above. Catch22 for WW adoption
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9a8538 No.7134057
>>6952729
>>7048244
>>7129280
>>7129453
What are the odds that
the judge who is currently hearing the Ira Kleiman vs. Craig Wright case
owns a private practice which was hired to represent several of Jeffrey Epstein's accused accomplices back in 2008
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article232595847.html
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fd46ce No.7138116
>By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 303 of the Defense Production Act of 1950, as amended (the “Act”) (50 U.S.C. 4533),I hereby determine, pursuant to section 303(a)(5) of the Act,
>https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/presidential-determination-pursuant-section-303-defense-production-act-1950-amended-2/
>that the domestic production capability for separation and processing of Heavy Rare Earth Elements is essential to the national defense.
>https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/presidential-determination-pursuant-section-303-defense-production-act-1950-amended-3/
>that the domestic production capability for separation and processing of Light Rare Earth Elements is essential to the national defense.
>https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/presidential-determination-pursuant-section-303-defense-production-act-1950-amended-6/
>that the domestic production capability for Rare Earth Metals and Alloys is essential to the national defense.
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6cf3f1 No.7146683
The dominoes begin to fall..
Justin Sun, founder of TRON, under investigation by the Chinese government. Not allowed to leave the country.
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d4d866 No.7150827
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a4a9a5 No.7151933
>>7129280
Nice find anon.
NOTABLE
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d1a9a7 No.7152798
how are you guys storing your BCHSV coins? (btc tard here) whats the safest way
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d1a9a7 No.7153088
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6e40fd No.7157701
>>7146683
>https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article232595847.html
Is it because Sun is cabal? OR because the whole Buffet lunch charade is to get Buffet into some zero day bitcoin? Is China stopping Sun? Or did POTUS tell China not to let Sun out?
"Sun"
reread posts.
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0ab836 No.7162713
>>6098875
Most are aware of the EO 6102 of which that RatBastard Roosevelt issued stealing the true wealth of his own countrymen to the benefit of his banker masters. What I am interested in reading is the views of the normal person on the street after the reset, will those who have collected AU in the form of GEs and Krugerrands be able to hold on to their stash? Personally, I do not believe GEs will be pulled from the populace but not sure about the Krugerrands.
Any takers as we are deluged by the "experts" that none US Treasury issued coins will be ordered returned for whatever medium of exchange will be. I’m not being critical just not sure about persons reading tea leaves from the bottom of a cup.
And yes, I am a NewFag with no clue what the heck I am doing and probably screwed the pooch.
I did review Banking Bread 1, 2, & 3 prior to entering 4 and could have missed something as the eyes are not what they use to be. Wanted to ask Q but didn't have the balls…
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bbf53a No.7165934
>>7162713
>have GE (Gold Eagles?)
>have Krugerrands
>will gubbermint take either/all away?
Guessing no.
If the goal is to exit fiat, abolish fractional banking, and enter a fixed exchange rate an oz of AG would be the same as whatever the new dollar corresponds to.
Since it’s not (?) fractional, it should not matter whether you hold the oz or the corresponding new USD amount.
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a4a9a5 No.7171418
>>7162713
Q said:
>Gold shall destroy fed.
The people trust gold inherently, especially patriots. No way Trump/team would take that away.
Trump has also said he loves the USD and we will keep it. (For now).
Gold backed USD implied?
>Getting rid of fiat.
What happened last time we had a gold standard?
Slowly incrementalized away?
How to keep sound money sound?
Transparency?
A set in stone set of rules?
A system that requires those things?
>This cannot be allowed to happen again.
What system requires those things?
Bitcoin? (NOT [[[BTC]]])
It seems to this anon, that this board has been given multiple nods that we're on the right track.
USD backed by gold?
USD backed by gold ran on the bitcoin system?
Does this allow for unprecedented transparency as to what the government is doing?
Does this allow for a transition from what people are used to (USD) to a system that feels the same but has great benefits?
Does this allow for a more secure gold standard with the option to transfer to bitcoin (BSV) if needed/(wanted) by the people?
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d1a9a7 No.7171815
>>7162713
>Krugerrands
1oz of gold is 1oz, doesnt matter what it looks like (atleast thats the vibe i get after 4 breads)
stack as much of the big 4 (really only 3 right now) as you can, get rid of digital holdings. base yourself and hold on for the ride
.gov coin
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71dc41 No.7171900
>>7171418
Pretty good. Except the bullshit about BSV.
If you actually read Q, what does Q tell us? That the WILL OF THE PEOPLE – the hive mind – is the most powerful force on Earth.
The perfect money is not backed by a government, because a government is only as strong as the will of THE PEOPLE.
The perfect money is not backed by its "intrinsic" commodity value either, such as silver's ability to conduct electricity. That commodity value gives the silver itself a value (for its usefulness in some other capacity other than as money) but actually undermines its utility as the perfect money: what happens when a new discovery makes the commodity value of the silver go through the roof and the silver itself is suddenly too valuable to be coined or stored in vaults? How is the perfect money able to serve as a ledger for our wealth while simultaneously being consumed (and thus lost) through commodity applications (e.g., used in circuit boards or mobile phones) thereby eroding the money's ability to serve as the perfect ledger? Hint: ideally, money should ONLY measure wealth, and as such, the "price" of that money should only fluctuate in accordance with our REAL WEALTH as measured by that money.
The "price" of money should NOT fluctuate in accordance with its commodity value, or with its increasing/decreasing availability based on fluctuating consumption of the money itself (e.g., for commodity purposes). What sort of ledger does any money perform when its availability fluctuates based on how much of it we destroyed (ie.., used) this week? Wheat fails as money too, not just because it rots, but because we EAT IT. As soon as we eat the wheat, it lessens its ability to measure real wealth because the wheat's ability to measure REAL WEALTH fluctuates based on availability (the wheat becomes MROE valuable itself in a famine, changing the "value" of your other wealth, as measured by said wheat).
Meanwhile, THE HIVE MIND is the ultimate backing for money. The Hive Mind decides what is money, and the Hive Mind makes it so. That's why US dollars worked so well – even while US dollars were being manipulated unfairly and being mobilized against the people of Earth to destroy us, our desire and will to accept it as money prevailed. That is why the Cabal manipulated our understanding of money. The Cabal was manipulating the Hive Mind. If the Hive Mind were to AWAKEN and realize the error of its ways with regard to any money, then that money fails instantly.
Such is the power of the WILL OF THE PEOPLE.
One of the last things the Cabal wants us to awaken to is how money REALLY works and how we've been tricked about money. The Cabal has controlled our understanding of money so thoroughly that we don't even know what money really is. Money is really a ledger, determined by the will of the People, to measure accumulated REAL WEALTH (the results of your productivity, your wise decisions, your ingenuity, your prosperity) and nothing more. The best money ONLY measures real wealth honestly, consistently, without manipulation or corruption by any person or government or corporation.
Gold is powerful because it is almost the perfect money. Its commodity purposes are relatively few (though I don't rule out the discovery of new purposes in the incredible new future we are about to see). Gold is the perfect transition away from the fake, Cabal money system to a new system that has awakened to the realization that the ONLY thing that truly determines money's value is the HIVE MIND itself, based on the Hive Mind determining said money's ability to best function freely and securely in our world to measure REAL WEALTH.
Breaking the spell of the Cabal's "money magic" will take time. Gold is already part of the Hive Mind's consciousness, and it actually does a good job of measuring real wealth, not because of its "intrinsic value" but because of its qualities as "almost perfect money" (it can't be printed to infinity, no single government can determine its value, its relative scarcity, its invulnerability to physical destruction, etc.). But gold fails on other counts too, in a modern dibitl age.
Satoshi wanted Bitcoin to serve as digital gold. Bitcoin does serve as digital gold, NOT because Bitcoin is pretty like gold, but because Bitcoin mirrors ALL of the perfect money quality of gold while being even MORE PERFECT for a digital, interconnected planet.
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95d50d No.7174303
>>7171900
No Such Agency White Hats created the Bitcoin Whitepaper.
What does the Bitcoin Whitepaper have in common with the Ticker: BTC, cryptocurrency?
Answer: Absolutely nothing.
Seek Bitcoin, unadulterated, pure and stoic in its resolve.
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c3b484 No.7174556
Ag….18Bio in reserves. Mined at 1Bio per year @ a loss per oz. Industry uses roughly 56% in non recyclable manner. Roughly 10% annual supply is recycled from previous stock. 20% goes to coin and bar. Real physical ratio mined is 8:1 minus the lose through indy usage is more like 3.5:1. 15% decline in production yoy. When the price jumps, so will production, however within 9 yrs the entire stock on planet will be gone. 16.5 yrs @ current production for au. So much fun to come. Supply & demand are constants whether we like it or not. Logic, reason & patience will prevail
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6e40fd No.7179210
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6e40fd No.7179374
>>7179210
Interesting conversation from main qresearch bread
>>7179237
>>7179244
>>7179260
>>7179265
>>7179304
>>7179319
>>7179329
>>7179357
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6e40fd No.7179426
>>7179374
moar
>>7179346
>>7179371
>>7179396
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877ef3 No.7180085
>>7171900
5. Divisibility:
The money material should be capable of division; and the aggregate value of the mass after division should be almost exactly the same as before. If we use diamond as money and by chance it drops from our hand and breaks, we will suffer an enormous loss. This is not the case with precious metals. Their portions can be melted and remelted together any number of times without much loss.
BTC folks ignore this very important quality of money. On the scale of world commerce once a wholly insignificant number of people start to spend their BTC a few times they find themselves eaten up by multiple $50+ fees.
Digital gold is simply a failed meme. Usable money beats store of value in everyday life and most definitely when shtf.
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972e5d No.7180156
>>7071453
damn must've got on wrong board
actual intelligent convo happenin
morning fags!
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6e40fd No.7180326
>>7180085
Interesting graphic, but you should do more research on scaling and just the broader research on distributed concesus and schemes for creating decentralized networks by monetized idle computing resources, i.e. bandwith, memory, cpu, etc. There's quite a lot happening and there are plenty of ideas about reducing, fees. There are fees and costs with gold, fyi. Not sure why you posted a pro CW montage if you against crypto…
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a2b14e No.7180562
>>7180326
>>7180085
>>7071453
plenty of capable UTXO blockhains that can begin to handle worldwide transactions as of now. Government just needs the will to do it and wait for the right time to make the transition from the unbacked fiat debt based ponzi scheme. Plenty of players in the game that stand to lose a lot if this happens. Hence the slow chess game being played?
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77c3d3 No.7184559
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fd46ce No.7186997
>>7138116
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-precious-metals-trader-pleads-guilty-attempted-commodities-price-manipulation
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7412c7 No.7189811
https://goldswitzerland.com/stocks-no-bid-gold-no-offer/
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6e40fd No.7193623
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a5c2b0 No.7250903
>>7248797 (pb - general research)
NEGATIVE RATES LUNACY: History Will Condemn This STUPIDITY!
https://archive.fo/x0uMG
>Google searches for coupons and discounts is also down substantially.
>Americans have been spending heavily on RVs and other pastime activities.
>The dollar is on such shaky grounds that the White House had to send Trump’s economic advisor Larry Kudlow to tell CNBC that they’ve ruled out currency intervention in order to prop up the buck.
>For the first time since 2013, not a single central bank is hiking rates
>Gold’s rally has been driven by institutions, not by your neighbor.
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066c74 No.7260602
>>7250903
Exeter's pyramid displays the natural flow of economic energy when things correct to fair value. Without a doubt, institutions and countries have begun obeying this principle. The people should too. Smoke and mirrors are not sustainable.
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a1908e No.7267918
>>7189811
>mirror constructed
>time of reflection
>you may not like what you see
>truth is truth
Did you go back to source anon? We are in this together. Idols get ripped down….
Ag = 64% (-36)
Pd = 234% (+134)
Au = 110% (+10)
Pt = 34% (-66)
-102 / +144
IN GOD WE TRUST
>>7260602
>mirrors are not sustainable
The vain will have to find out in the most painful way. Can't say they weren't warned. Every ounce of silver forged in plain site for all to see. Unless of course you are staring at yourself.
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6e40fd No.7275276
https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2019/07/31/bitcoin-twittter-ethereum-coinbase-theyearis2030/
just for keks
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fd46ce No.7283767
>>7267918
Still on this despite buying your 144k too early?
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6e40fd No.7284066
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cfa973 No.7352004
10.8.19
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1181337787473235969
-"Gold Standard" digital trade.
Blockchain backed gold standard for new trade network? US-SK-CA-MX-JP-(UK?) trade network, post reset?
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397b24 No.7360653
>>7267918
Looks like we're back in business, boys! Here's an update for the next phase of the ride.
WWG1WGA!!
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a96cb2 No.7361644
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d092fa No.7367745
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db5ec6 No.7367945
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d092fa No.7368088
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6b22df No.7399160
>>6314682
>leef contributor
kek
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6b22df No.7399213
>>7360653
so the new system is a $100 bill is worth 1 oz of platinum, 50$ bill is worth i oz of gold etc..?
Can you explain the bottom part of the graphic? is each metal 25% of a basket? what is the color coding about?
also unrelated your quotes are dated for the day after your post. japan/philippeans?
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6b22df No.7399310
>>6491539
if i understand this post correctly
>>7360653
does this graphic suggest that it is better to hold cash than buy platinum since 100 dollars in cash will eventually buy 1 oz of platinum?
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08d5fe No.7399878
>>7399213 & >>7399310 rt >>7360653
>does this graphic suggest that it is better to hold cash than buy platinum since 100 dollars in cash will eventually buy 1 oz of platinum?
No. If you re-read what ID a1908e has posted throughout the bread & agree with his argument, then buying a $100 platinum eagle with fiat money now is better than when the new system is rolled out. This graphic is simply a tabular riff on his graphs in >>6563766, et al
>so the new system is a $100 bill is worth 1 oz of platinum, 50$ bill is worth i oz of gold etc..?
Yes, per the caveat noted above.
> Can you explain the bottom part of the graphic? is each metal 25% of a basket? what is the color coding about?
Look through all discussions on what the #80526b color coding is all about. My “theory” was laid out in >>6879938 and the explanation for it in >>6890628
> also unrelated your quotes are dated for the day after your post. japan/philippeans?
PM pricing graphic capped from https://goldprice.com/ & UTC time succeeded GMT (London)
Hope this helps.
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6b22df No.7399882
>>7399213
ok i get it, the colors refer to this #80526B
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6b22df No.7399889
>>7399878
thanks for this it is helpful. i see i have some catching up to do
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08d5fe No.7400780
Interesting Posts from Q Research General #9461 Notables
>>7397847 The Rush To A Cashless Society Only Serves Globalist Interests
>Sauced zerohedge, but original by Brandon Smith is here:
http://www.alt-market.com/index.php/articles/4013-the-rush-to-a-cashless-society-only-serves-globalist-interests
>>7398113 US cryptocurrency expert arrested for ‘aiding adversary & sanctions violation’ over North Korea trip
>Wonder who's really behind what this guy was up to?
Sauce: https://www.rt.com/usa/474710-crypto-expert-arrested-sanctions/
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3e7740 No.7401266
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ac2a13 No.7411218
Highly recommend watching The Laundromat on Netflix. It's a short movie, about an hour and a half. Good redpill on the Panama Papers and ties into a lot of Q themes and global finance happenings.
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10d0b7 No.7528555
Moar CSW/BSV/Q connection
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a47c5d No.7530225
>>7528555
hola stiffmarine
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230a6e No.7533060
>>6296576
>good guys in charge
What does it matter?
Good guys can not make the current internet safe.
And let's pretend they could, I don't want everything connected, okay?
Because even if 100% good guys are in charge now, you never know if it will change.
Mass surveillance is not good guys btw.
It's evil.
>perfect honest capitalism and government
100% transparency regarding citizens, which is terrible and one of the plans of the NWO.
If the so called good guys want that, they are not good guys.
Evil people can still "pay" using actual humans/children, organs, weapons, drugs and so on. Bitcoin won't stop that.
Remember mass surveillance? That's what you consider "perfect". Sure, you can catch criminals easily, but it also means that nothing is anonymous anymore. Your whole life is logged.
You can be tracked 100%. I don't want that.
If you do, then fuck you.
>it’s possible that white hats realized Bitcoin was an immutable evidence trail of crimes
Of course it is, that's why it's pushed by mass media.
>Let's just say Bitcoin+Tor are not completely anonymous
top fucking kek
Tor is not anonymous, it's controlled. Since the beginning. Nothing on the internet is actually anonymous.
If you think anything is, then you are not red pilled.
You know what's actually anonymous?
Cash! Gold! Silver! and so on.
Can take these with you.
Don't need any additional devices or services or electricity to use them.
All transactions can not be tracked.
In theory the serial numbers on paper money could be tracked when you get the notes from the bank/deposit them at banks. But they won't know where you spent them and especially how you spent them.
Crypto requires
- devices powered by electricity
- (access to) internet
Internet is unsafe.
Devices are unsafe/not to be trusted/can be hacked.
Internet provider cuts your internet connection?
Sure, you may still have bitcoins on your computer, but what can you do with them now?
Nothing.
You lose electricity?
What do you do now?
Nothing.
Meanwhile others can still buy food using cash/gold/silver/physical whatever.
Computer gets hacked and bitcoins stolen.
What do you do now? Nothing.
Of course people can break into your house, but at the very least you have the chance to defend yourself. Thinking that for example your computer has not already been compromised is foolish. Consider every digital device to be compromised already. Even the ones not connected to the internet.
Government mandates that all internet uploads/access to the internet require your government provided ID card.
What do you do now?
Would anything still be anonymous? (it's already not anonymous anyway, NSA keeps traffic)
In Estonia EU is already trying their electric government shit, which even included having to sign all comments that you make on social media using your ID card.
If it was actually anonymous and not controlled, they would have taken care of Bitcoin etc. already.
I think making everything a part of the internet is a really stupid idea.
Same with self-driving cars, that require internet/5G.
Single point of failure.
That fails and everything goes poof.
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230a6e No.7533102
>>7533060
Oh and btw. have you read that piece about Greece?
People are forced to spend at least 30% of their income electronically.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/greeks-set-to-face-heavy-fines-if-they-don-t-spend-30-per-cent-of-their-income-electronically-20191209-p53i14.html
Why would a government want that?
Full control + transparency of the cattle.
In the end:
Ban people from giving money to the homeless.
Ban people from buying an additional bread to give it to people in need and so on.
Or better yet - charge the one in needed additional taxes because of that so called "income".
What does the Greekish government say why they enforce it?
Tax evasion, of course.
Should have added "terrorism" as well.
Meanwhile in Germany people get put into fucking MENTAL ASYLUMS, because they shine the light on actual BIG tax evasion, tax evasion that actually matters, done by banks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustl_Mollath
Fuck this whole shit.
Taxation is theft, and it gets even more hilarious when you are forced to pay tax when paying with your income, that got taxed already.
Or how about having bought a piece of land and having to pay tax on that every year?
That makes no sense. It's your property. You bought it, using taxed money. You even got taxed, when buying it. And now you pay tax on it every year because 404. And when you can't afford doing so, the "government" will take your property, that you paid for, away from you.
It's like buying a TV, and then having to pay tax every day on top (basically a rent) because the TV is your property.
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db62a6 No.7534258
>>7533060
Nobody is saying get rid of physical cash except NWO faggots and their shills. Bitcoin can coexist with existing paper bills. Paper bills backed by precious metals would be a nice goal. Governments forced to use a blockchain for their funds while leaving the option for their citizens to use cash would be a nice goal.
Forcing government to use a solution like Bitcoin to reduce corruption is not synonymous with a reduction in citizen privacy, unless it is explained by someone who doesn't understand or someone who is purposefully conflating the two.
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db62a6 No.7534528
Just throwing a future set of rules out for discussion.
-All payments made from the US Treasury to any source must be made a public blockchain ledger.
-US federal elected officals are audited once per year and must transact on the blockchain whether on official business or not. SARs must be filled out when they withdraw or deposit cash amounts over $10,000 - a reversal of the measures currently put on citizens.
-SES federal employees are randomly audited…the privilege of serving your country.
-Everything else including transactions made by private citizens who are not US federal employees are unaffected by the new system.
These basic rules can be tweaked but are fair and not outside capabilities which currently exist. We have just gotten used to demanding so little from those in public office that these reasonable ideas sound unimaginable.
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8ac34e No.7579706
>>7533060
>Good guys can not make the current internet safe.
>And let's pretend they could, I don't want everything connected, okay?
>Because even if 100% good guys are in charge now, you never know if it will change.
>Mass surveillance is not good guys btw. It's evil
But is not using a public ledger to support a public need a clever way of reconciling anonymity and accountability?
Look at voting. Votes need to be anonymous AND at the same time accountable - i.e. only citizens are eligible to vote, those who are eligible to vote can only vote once, etc.
Linking a vote to an individual allows for accountability but at the expense of anonymity. But if you go 100% anon, anyone can vote destroying the accountability.
This is where a public ledger can help: you can enforce accountability AND preserve anonymity, be it with voting, paper claims on base metals, and/or transaction settlement.
Even if the good guys are in control now, they were not in the past and it’s reasonable to expect they may not be in control at sometime in the future. Don’t think the idea of, “trust the good guys”, even if they are good, is a good long term strategy here.
But again here is where I think the distributed ledger idea is key: whether or not you’ve got good/bad/smart/idiot/etc. in charge, if underlying system supporting society’s critical functions (voting, payments, money, etc.) is beyond the ability for one entity, person, secret society to screw with, we’ll be far better off.
And that takes me back to the unique ability of a using a public ledger - ideally beyond manipulation - to handle critical functions in a fair manner and supply a m/o to offer both accountability and anonymity at the same time.
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39d426 No.7586738
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f54a82 No.7588621
For those who follow BDanon on /pol/ he had some comments on the gold situation. Take them for what they’re worth.
>US gov, and only US gov, can create gold
>Production occurs at Area 51, using/inspired by alien tech
>Can make ~1ton a day, maybe more, cost to make is ~$5/oz.
>Created gold sent to NY Fed to be funneled into world system; no on suspects the NY Fed
>Redeem fiat currency for $2,000 / oz.
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/236955710
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7433bb No.7594773
>>7588621
i too would like to know more about the implications of bdanons claims that gold can be (and is) manufactured
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38d4d0 No.7595926
>>7588621
>>7594773
>i too would like to know more about the implications of bdanons claims that gold can be (and is) manufactured.
Then today we print paper; tomorrow we print gold. Here's the little I get when trying to put the pieces together:
>Gold is valuable because it is believed to be scarce.
>Fiat is valuable because it is believed to be valuable.
>A unique tech advantage to produce material amounts of cheap and bountiful gold undermines the idea of gold being scarce - and therefore valuable - in the public's mind.
>It makes no sense to me why a purported agent of a government who has exclusive access to such tech would post about the tech. What makes the tech valuable is that no one suspects gold can be created. Why flaunt this unless you play the Q-disinfo-and/or-message-not-meant-for-anons?
>If the public comes to believe gold is no longer as scarce as it once was the confidence in it will fall out, just like if they come to believe fiat is worthless.
>Central banks continue to materially increase their gold holdings.
>Countries are seeking to repatriate their foreign held gold holdings (e.g. Poland).
>$2000 > 1oz of gold fixed = 1.79T in paper notes in circulation (per FED at DEC 4, 2019) = 28,000tons of AU required to cover notes in circulation. US believed to have ~8k in gold reserves.
>Is it logical/plausible to believe 20,000tons of gold, or some combo of gold/silver/platinum/palladium, will just materialize? Seems like someone might start asking the questions which would lead to the public no longer believing gold was as scarce as they thought.
>Trump's using the FED's credit card to juice the economy. Maybe he's going to take them for all their worth and then switch over / restructure?
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a3190b No.7671127
Trump is not in charge of the economy, he never has been. So long as our money is controlled we will always be slaves. Q gives us hope but what have they really done but make it slightly easier to operate in this shitty slave system where we exchange real labor for fake money? printing gold? those in power will always be able to trade us fake money for our real labor. this will always be the case. we are slaves and we always will be unless we burn the system down from the inside. we have an operator inside and he already pulled the trigger 3 times and those in power keep fucking "fixing it." let it all burn down. its the only way we will no longer be subject to those in power printing fake money and forcing us to use it. Q what the fuck, you know this is the case. Tell Dr. G to get it done already, he made it his lifes work, don't let that madlad die without seeing his plan through to the end. Y2K=2020 shut it the fuck down and spread out that coin because it was THE FUCKING PLAN the whole time. Stop trying to fix it already and let it die, FIAT needs to die, the longer we have to live with the dollar the longer we are going to be slaves. sure most dont realise it but that godsend of a man knew exactly what he was doing. do some fucking good already and BLOW IT THE FUCK UP. kill the dollar, spread the coin, its time. Seriously.
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e39565 No.7703813
the more i think about this whole situation the more i think Patriots are setting up/anticipating a transfer of wealth from the criminals at the top to those who know how to go out and get it…
sure, wealth will likely be returned to the citizens in some form when trillions in assets are seized. but how long will that take? i fear the deep state will undoubtedly try to fuck the economy (they currently control the msm it appears, unless their flustered bellyaching is all a controlled ruse) to prevent a Trump re-election and if that happens people may need a safety net. many voters don't really care about what's going on in washington and vote with their wallets.
Trump CANNOT lose.
could guiding towards a decentralized movement to take advantage of a "rigged" market - Crypto, Forex, etc be in the realm of possibilities?
on my mind are things like the market drops of exactly 666 points last year, the economist cover and october 10th…
are there hidden comms we're not seeing?
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e39565 No.7704131
>>7703813
btw i'm not talking about a rapid controlled crash, more like strategic rises and bleeds sideways for the next several months in a market
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193c25 No.7708988
>>7367745
XRP will be the Standard and the One World Currency.
buying XRP now is like buying Gold at 20 cents.
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a3190b No.7710269
>>7704131
It's all a load of horse shit, all the markets are manipulated as fuck, large funds using high frequency trading back and forth to manipulate the prices of stocks and assets, look at the trading volumes, billions upon billions of dollars trading every day? Why do you think the dow index is doing so well while the homeless population is exploding? Ever heard of a "flash crash" imagine being able to control that consistently day after day, they can and they do. BURN IT THE FUCK DOWN ALREADY DR. G, DO IT NOW
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39d426 No.7711341
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39d426 No.7711364
>>7710269
Finance/Citizens' retirements is now a military theater for defense. The financial crisis, as other collapses before, are internal declarations of war against sovereignty. Some people finally get that. Unbridled capitalism without military awareness of financial and psychological weapons is a thing of the past. The public markets in which the great majority hold their wealth will go on. It's the private debt markets, essentially the modern day slave markets, that are being liquidated. They are far far greater in size with all the derivatives. That's where a lot of the big wealth is, not in the stock market. I'd load up on 20% gold and 80% total us market index and call it a day. Maybe buy a few BTC for shits and giggles.
Pay off your debt, get your house in order, and buy American-made cars and goods. End corruption in your life, encourage others to do the same, and don't tolerate BS from anyone. 'Merica!
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193c25 No.7714071
>>7711341
A scam that the largest banks in the world, corporations and governments including the United States is involved in. Yes its a scam. Now fuck off.
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71ef00 No.7717358
>>7714071
just bought 500k ty
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39d426 No.7719656
>>7714071
>A scam that the largest banks in the world, corporations and governments including the United States is involved in
Central Banking…
Idiot.
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193c25 No.7720753
>>7719656
>Ooorr duuur hOoourr CENTRAL BANK hurur duuur dhuurr.
Fuck off idiot, You want institutional money to flow into crypto yet you don't want to work with institutions.
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e7aba6 No.7720755
>>7708988
delusional. gud luck with that
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2b2286 No.7721329
>>7708988
would not touch that with your mom's dick
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8f6fae No.7724300
>>7720753
while institutional money flowing into crypto is nice for the price, i didn't buy crypto to have institutions controlling the actual crypto platform & entire strategic direction & operations of the coin (xrp)
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193c25 No.7727273
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a3190b No.7729055
>>7711364
nah man, thats a terrible plan. there is a plan to destroy the US slave dollar. alan greenspan tried in 2000 and 2008, look at his career he blew up the bubble leading to 2000 then popped it, blew it up again leading up to 2008 and popped it all trying to destroy the dollar. he was even surprised the banks never lost money, only ever got bailed out by the fed or by the people. investing in a market that is actively being destroyed from the inside is the worst idea I have heard yet. Gold, maybe, all the shittiest most powerful people own and hold gold, why would we want to make them rich again? Widespread adoption of a distributed ledger system (cryptos) is the best case scenario for our future. no more banking, no more printing money, real financial freedom.
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39d426 No.7730633
>>7720753
>You want institutional money to flow into crypto yet you don't want to work with institutions.
Incorrect. XRP already is institutional money. There is nothing crypto about it.
>>7724300
>while institutional money flowing into crypto is nice for the price, i didn't buy crypto to have institutions controlling the actual crypto platform & entire strategic direction & operations of the coin (xrp)
Well said.
>>7729055
>nah man, thats a terrible plan.
What's your plan? While mine's a humble plan for the simple man, I've thought about these things for a long while under the guiding principals of simplicity and diversification…unless you know what the future holds, I wouldn't be 100% in crypto. maybe 5-10% AT MOST…and certainly not in XRP! But it's a game of risk management, minimizing losses, more than anything else. Crashing the dollar doesn't need to crash the stock market. If anything, I imagine that it's set to be a creative destruction, if anything. Nothing wrong with the dollar, it's the management!
>"STRUCTURE"
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4b064c No.7748073
>>7730633
You're out of touch with reality. The dollar inflates every time it crashes because they dump cash into every nook and cranny they can find. You might make a shit ton of dollars in the stock market upon the dollar dumping for the final time, however they will ultimately be worthless. Fed notes = debt notes, they will always be worth less the next day, that is the fundamental flaw of the "dollar" My plan, I hold 25% in cryptos because I do understand what a great advancement a distributed ledger system is, and I do fully understand why. I hold 25% in silver only, no gold. And 50% in physical dollars for the deflationary period of the collapse.
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39d426 No.7749036
>>7748073
>You're out of touch with reality.
You must be new here. Anyone that starts off their rant with a strawman argument gets treated like a shill for good reason…
Please tell me how just blowing up the dollar in an uncoordinated fashion that doesn't protect other assets, the economy, and jobs is in any way helpful to the everyman? You don't save the world by blowing it up. Blowing it up serves the people with lots of cash: the wealthy. Blowing it up blows up pensions and retirements. It's insanity to think they're going to let that happen. Yes, the dollar is going away or going to be restructure, but not at the expense of the everyman. Rather, at the expense of the derivative debt market and the wealthy invested in it. Blowing up people's pensions and retirements will only exacerbate the social problems; one step forward, five steps back. Is that what you really think is the plan?
Interesting portfolio choices…all contingent on the singular "Collapse" scenario. Best of luck to you with that.
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b13193 No.7751239
>>7749036
>You don't save the world by blowing it up.
>Blowing it up serves the people with lots of cash: the wealthy.
>Blowing it up blows up pensions and retirements.
>the dollar is going away or going to be restructure, but not at the expense of the everyman
Real estate anon here - see debt, and fiat based debt, as source problem. Think the part of the answer to the finance side of the “plan” will involve blowing up the debt - and in doing so - also blow up the inflated (by debt) asset prices we see across real-estate, equities, etc.
If cheap/fake fiat currency can no longer be acquired, people across the board wont be able to pay as much for whatever assets. This will force prices down and be deflationary.
Pensions/401ks/etc., need their target RoRs to service their obligations and I just don’t see how transitioning from fiat to a non-fiat system (read: pulling debt, and debt’s false inflation of asset prices out of the system) won’t have AT FIRST a negative impact as prices fall due to the debt bubble bursting. Nor do I see how keeping any component of a fiat system going forward makes sense…it’s like that scene from LOtR where Isildur, after winning against all odds, refuses to destroy the ring.
Anyways to your point, fucking with pensions/retirement is a major pain point. Ditto for all those who are not yet close to retiring but on their way to building their nest-egg. Here’s the rub I see: I don’t see (and of course perhaps I am wrong) a way forward to BOTH remove the fiat/debt monster AND NOT create a massive deflation in asset prices (and yes, I get the argument asset prices are just returning to their “true” price, but that ain’t going to comfort anyone when the shits going down).
Very curious to see how they plan to solve this.
Lastly, and almost in passing, I’ll note one of the biggest challenges we - and Q/Q+ - face is waking up the normies. Hitting someone in their pocketbook is PAINFULL and I doubt even a normie could sleep through it. Again, don’t know if/how this will be employed but still note financial pain would get a vast amount of normie attention…for better or worse.
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0c5882 No.7752075
>>7751239
Really quite interesting if you think about it.
25-55 Worker Avg. How does it look to them?
Avg American 2019 salary $46,800 per BLS @2080 hours per anum. Household Avg of 90K (2 income home). So this family has about 12K +/- put in savings (M3 Money supply). We will use a conservative net worth of 50,000 average across three generations. Home equity makes up about 60%, so 30K. We will leave the 8K as a split mix of 2K personal items & cash on hand, 6K stock/employer investments .
12K - Savings - M3 Fiat Money Class, would have to be covered in a currency reset. Est:1:1
30K - Home Equity - Hard Asset Class, real estate deflation will likely reduce equity due to general deflation of all hard assets. Est Avg Loss of 30%
2K - Cash/ Personal Items - M1 Fiat Money Class Est 1:1, Potential Hard assets: Au/Ag average American has aprox 1 Oz Au and 3 Oz Ag in jewelry, antiques or coins.
6K- Stocks Investments - As most of the current inflation is running into the stock market and corp bonds, I wouldn't put it past a 40% correction back to post 99 peak and pre 08 peak avg. around 16K.
After 12K, 20K, 2K, 3.6K=37.6 post reset (sans if reset is bimetallic could see a + swing of 25K-30K)
in said scenario older Americans with more net worth would have much larger impacts from the stock market fluctuations, however they in turn have larger % in savings, home equity and alt items.
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Household Income 2016 Average Savings 2013 Average Savings 3-Year Change
Under $25,000 $6,021 $5,079 +19%
$25,000 - $44,999 $11,719 $9,565 +23%
$45,000 - $69,999 $13,179 $8,932 +48%
$70,000 - $114,999 $15,333 $17,305 -11%
The trick will be how they do the reboot?
Organically: Trigger incident->All blocks by feds for banks to the paper markets are called off->Let it ride-> Free Market conditions reset the price and buying frenzy begins on PMs->Comex Paper fails delivery-> Options called->Panic buying of physical->premiums sky rocket and sellers dry up->Financial emergency (ie Exters Avalanche)->EO end Fed and formalize revaluation etc. Pre-negotiated and all parties on board globally.
Or Manufactured: hmmmm.?
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39d426 No.7752887
>>7751239
If it were me, I'd look to lower rates, accelerate the gerational handoff from boomers to millenials of trillions which is also a transition from bonds to stocks. gold then absorbs much of the collateral damage. mix on some inflation. housing doesnt blow up. it just doesnt grow as fast, which is the same as fell back. All the comments in here talk about a silver bullet. This is one of the most complex problems of humanity. There are going to be many levers and its going to be a long process. That there will be one momentous trigger for anything IS the disinfo in Q posts. IMHO, the whole thing is just an enormous interwoven process. In any case, I think the inflation of the precious metals prices can slurp up a lot of the slack the debt will cause. Also, we discount the impact of innovation. To me, the impact of crypto is about the decentralization of personal data monetization, no currency. The adage is that software is eating the world or that data is the new oil…well, we're undereatimating the wealth to be released there as well as with other technologies.
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39d426 No.7752970
>>7752075
that doesn't sound like make america rich again…i think we need a bit more creativity. also, anyone have numbers on how much money was confiscated in the dec 2017 human trafficking executive order??? I bet its bigger that anyone can imagine…
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2d7272 No.7753492
>>7752075
>The trick will be how they do the reboot?
>>7752887
>Housing doesn’t blow up. it just doesn’t grow as fast
Thanks for replying.
If one accepts the premise of “no more free rides” post reset, then welfare/social security/other state income distribution schemes seem to be following the Dodo.
Assuming these programs are 86’d, you’ll face a massive amount of civil unrest (duh) stemming from the angst of those dependent on the program. Would also guess the more dependent one is on a gimme-dat, the greater they’ll chimp out. Set that against the backdrop of falling asset prices / debt bubble of everything bursting and one will be facing quite the financial boogaloo.
>no silver bullet
Partially disagree - there IS a silver bullet: sound money and ending gimme-dats. The catch is the path from where we are to where we need to get to is fraught with peril from the general population freaking out during the transition phase, even if they will end up better off once the dust settles.
Housing is an interesting example - as I work in RE I’ve seen, and benefited, from:
>1. Rents increasing to the point where tenants are being squeezed (i.e. more than 60% of their disposable income goes to their housing expenses)
>2. RE assets increasing in value and outpacing inflation
>3. Using the fiat-Jew to leverage up
What’s driving this mess in housing - and I presume other sectors too - is fiat debt. When you magic up cheap faux fiat it just serves to inflate the asset prices (as the purchaser can afford to borrow more) and in turn the asset itself needs to squeeze more from the resident base to service the increased debt burden.
Factor in the those who MUST have yield - think pension funds, insurance co’s, etc. - and suddenly you’ve also blown up the demand side meaning more “real” cash is entering the RE markets, being amplified with fake cash (debt), to drive up asset prices far beyond what their “real” value should be.
And this is not just for commercial/apartments, you’ll see it in the SF residental side too. New couples just getting started can/MUST borrow MORE to buy the SAME property and therefore service GREATER debt.
Also consider what the CB’s say…we must FIGHT deflation. We must target [ x% ] inflation. Those asshats only have one product: DEBT and the more they issue, the more power they accumulate. On the investor side, at least in RE, one can (and I certainly do) profit from this but if the CB trend of fiat keeps marching on, it’s only a matter of time before even the owners get squeezed out…it would be like a Russian merchant making a fortune selling arms to the Bolsheviks prior to the revolution. Yeah, you’ll make some decent coin but you’re basically participating in the crafting of your own noose.
Apologies for the rant there but my key point is CBs are not our friends and if they say “we worried about dat deflation”, we the people should be running towards it.
As to the “how” what I see right now is the FED forcing liquidity into the markets and the INSTANT the markets perceive this as ending, all hell will break loose.
Assuming one’s got a tight handle on the psychological side - read: people even though they’re pissed/afraid are not rioting in the streets - one’s got the stage to make the deep changes to our monetary system (finalize the purge of the debt, revert to sound money backed by metals/distributed ledger).
Prior to 8ch going dark NewNoteAnon repeatedly hinted at the digital ledger being wiped as the MO for debt purge and transition back to base metals.
I’m not saying I agree/disagree with that but will say again this will freak people the fuck out. A gimmedat won’t care (s/he won’t have any currency on deposit anyways) but there will be many who will perceive their life’s work, plans for the future, and dreams vanish. If you couple this dynamic with the no more gimmedats, therefore also pissing off the gimmedats, you’ll be staring down emotional, angry, people from across the financial spectrum who are now dangerous as they’ll perceive they have nothing to lose.
Even if ALL will be better off in the long run, you’ll still have to address the short run…and on that matter I’m left scratching my head. Will be curious to see what the writers come up with, I guess!
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0c5882 No.7753841
>>7753492
Top Drawer Anon.
Chin Up, Powder Dry.
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c2573b No.7754737
>>7752970
Which we need in MANY ways to help the children that have been rescued from all over the world. They need tremendous care after all they have been through and so much more. Also, this money will be needed to CONTINUE to annihilate the people/groups/co.s that do it.
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39d426 No.7760549
>>7753492
you must write for ZH…
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e76ace No.7771937
BSV on a rocketship today
May have something to do with this:
https://micky.com.au/did-the-key-to-satoshis-bitcoin-billions-just-turn-up/
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7f5283 No.7780697
>>7749036
Fucking kek
>>7751239
I think Bix Weir is on the right track with distribution of wealth based on social security. It is the most fair way to do it, those who have paid into the fiat debt system the longest get paid out first. I mean it would be rough but replacing stocks and bonds retirement savings with real physical assets seems like it would go over pretty well after the first gutshot is through.
After its through and everyone starts to turn on the bankers for inflating every asset known to man I do believe they will see the appeal of fixed supply distributed ledger monetary system. However taxation on cryptos is extremely difficult if not impossible, so it would be the end of government funding as we know it. Which might ultimately be a good thing anyway.
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609768 No.7781204
Dinars. Global Currency Reset. Thoughts?
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b62abf No.7785712
>>7781204
>Dinars. Global Currency Reset. Thoughts?
A leader messing with CBs is hazardous to their health.
>>7780697
>distribution of wealth based on social security
>those who have paid into the fiat debt system the longest get paid out first
>the fairest way to do it
"Fair" is the philosophical tooth fairy.
Whatever is done with the currency habbening, there will be winners and losers in the general population in the short-term. Those who perceive it as a win will view the process as fair, those who perceive it as a loss will not.
The white-hats will need to be cautious here as even though I believe ALL will be better off - despite the short-term pain/trauma of the transition - you're going to have large parts of the population pissed when they perceive a large part of the wealth/worth/financial security being fucked with.
So if you can't do this in a "universal FAIR way," perhaps you can do a "universal CLEAR way" to get the populace to accept the new system while minimizing the collateral damage.
If the [illegal] FED tainted everything post-1913, then everything the FED touched would be akin to the fruit of the poisonous tree. Thus if the FED were proven to be illegal, any monies paid to it need to be returned to the payee as they tendered under an unlawful system.
Assuming the IRS records are accurate - or at least perceived as "accurate enough" - refunding all illegally paid taxes to living tax-payers might be a modus operandi to recapitalize the population after a major shift, especially if one believes all digital assets and liabilities are to be wiped.
People can argue over the fairness of such an idea all they want BUT I'd suggest the CLARITY of this is self-evident. Those who had the most taken by the government are those who get back the most from the government. For all those who were cute on their taxes (e.g. RE guys using paper losses and complex transactions to defer taxation indefinentely…*cough*), they'll get back less as less was paid in. For those who did not, they'll get back more.
There may be other MOs too. A few PCBTs ago an anon floated the idea of applying depository insurance to help with the transition…for example, the government may use FDIC/NCUA to "insure" up to a certain small amount - say $1,000, for instance - in bank accounts.
>replacing stocks
I think the key is REPRICING stocks in the new currency without faux-fiat-debt. ACME Corp will still be ACME Corp, will still make widgets, gadgets, etc., and still be a going concern meaning it will still offer value and be worth something.
>bonds
Not sure about bonds…unlike a useful corp making something, I just don't see how they offer any intrinsic value.
>retirement savings with real physical assets seems like it would go over pretty well
As a RE anon, this is a big part of my thinking.
>>7760549
>you must write for ZH…
No sir, just trying (poorly) logic my way through this.
>>7752970
>anyone have numbers on how much money was confiscated in the dec 2017 human trafficking executive order
My guess is "enough" gold, based on Q's posting. No idea how to interpret that to [ x ] tonnes or whatever.
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10d0b7 No.7803512
>>7785712
>I think the key is REPRICING stocks in the new currency without faux-fiat-debt. ACME Corp will still be ACME Corp, will still make widgets, gadgets, etc., and still be a going concern meaning it will still offer value and be worth something.
This is exactly what is happening. Trump keeps touting the stock market…on twitter and at every single rally. This is no accident. He's telling people that their savings will be safe there.
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b0661c No.7805557
>>7803512
What about the index trackers like SPY? What do the folks in this thread think about their viability/safety going forward?
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193c25 No.7809362
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/25
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39d426 No.7809501
>>7805557
If you've been paying attention for 3 years, lots of big companies have been shotgunned with scandals while others have skyrocketed. Most have had leadership changeouts, and it's all very step-by-step.
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e4c333 No.7810716
MSM deluge soon
"Could this Bitcoin fork overtake BTC?"
"Australian scientist claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto…"
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abc16a No.7811946
What's the probability that the market pulls back once mass arrests start and how far does it go down? OR, does the DJT admin pull this off without a huge swing to the downside?
We've been told that companies like FB, TWTR, CRWD, GOOG/GOOGL, AMZN, DIS, T, BEN, BLK and many others have been in Q's [killbox] or involved in other illegal activities via digging into articles that have been posted on the threads… so if we assume these companies are in trouble and will be exposed with their CEO's getting perp walked or step down for the likes of Treason, etc.. does the stock drop?
I would think if a company and it's leaders are complicit in Treason/Human Rights Violations/etc and get indicted.. that would cause the market to draw back given some of these companies market cap but also know that DJT isn't going to let this economy slow down either, so I guess ultimately what I'm asking is there a good chance theres going to be a "V" in the S&P and Dow to where we could ride it down on the shorts and then roll the profits back into long positions?
Thanks
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6c2ed6 No.7812484
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b0661c No.7821371
>>7812484
Craig Wright did not invent Bitcoin, this is idiocy.
Some say that BTC was invented by clowns to be able to move money more freely during the storm. Frankly it makes sense to me.
I think gold is the best investment for the coming years.
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b62abf No.7839690
>>7811946
>What's the probability that the market pulls back once mass arrests start and how far does it go down?
>FB, TWTR, CRWD, GOOG/GOOGL, AMZN, DIS, T, BEN, BLK…if we assume these companies are in trouble and will be exposed with their CEO's getting perp walked or step down for the likes of Treason, etc.. does the stock drop?
The market gains are not due to value creation but rather due to freshly created fiat dollars being "reinvested" in the market. Same idea behind manipulation in the debt market where someone *cough* FED *cough* is buying up debt to manage the yield curve and keep rates low. And of course, low rates lead to cheaper to service debt, which in turn leads to more debt, which goes back to fuel up the debt bubble vaulting the market to new highs. Take away is the mechanism I see, which determines when the debt-inflated asset bubble pops is the FED, not arrests.
If we assuming the following, then I'd suggest the question is this:
>Assuming there is a material debt bubble across all assets, and
>Assuming the FED is actively inflating the bubble by pumping/printing easy liquidity into the markets, and
>Assuming "the plan" involves a return to based money and a purge of fiat, and
>Assuming a (the?) catalyst to kickoff the financial boogaloo will be the FED turning off the tap on easy liquidity, and
>Assuming the purge of fiat will be unsettling to the general population
…when does it make sense (or when does it not make sense) for the public to "incur" the psychological shock of the currency component of the plan related to the other psychological shocks of the plan?
For example, if the answer to that is the financial component needs to come early in the awakening, my guess is you'd see the FED tighten up liquidity and/or raise interest rates effectively lighting the (short?) fuse on the derivative time bomb before any major political arrests or happenings.
If the goal is to time it with the major political happenings/10 days of darkness/etc., then you'd probably see it all at once.
There was a ZeroHedge article today which hit on the FED's market fuckery, pics related:
http://archive.is/ahGhJ
> The worst kept secret in the financial world is now not only accepted orthodoxy, but finally being discussed openly by, at least some, authorities. Central bank policies are directly driving asset prices and the bubbles therein.
>Worse, in order to keep banks well supplied with liquidity and hedge funds content and preventing them from closing out of these massively levered pair trades, last week repo expert Scott Skyrm said that the problem with the broken repo market and the Fed's respective Repo operations, similar to the problem observed with QE and the Fed's balance sheet in general over the past decade, is that the market is now addicted to the easy Fed liquidity.
>As Skyrm wrote, "it's easy to see how the Repo market can get addicted to easy cash from the Fed when the stop-out rates for the RP operations are 1.55% - behind the offered side of the market." But, as the repo strategist adds, as the Fed keeps injecting cash, the market gets used to it.
> But now that cash has gone to other markets, meaning the Fed is trapped in providing liquidity in perpetuity unless it hikes rates which in turn will cause a market crash.
>In short, just as the market got addicted to QE and the result was a 20% drop in the S&P in late 2018 when markets freaked out about Quantitative Tightening, the Fed's shrinking balance sheet, and declining liquidity, Skyrm cautions that "it will take pain to wean the Repo market off of cheap Fed cash" since "it's a circle" which can be described as follows:
>For the Fed to end daily RP ops, they need outside cash to come back into the Repo market. For the Repo market to attract cash, Repo rates need to move higher. For rates to move higher, the Fed needs to stop RP ops.
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000000 No.7861785
GOLD shall destroy FED
Different perspective: POTUS has made countless remarks about how good the stock market is doing, since his election. At first, I worried he was playing right into their hands (pre-Q). However, after the past few years of being WOKE, I now have a different perspective.
POTUS knows the "beating heart" of the Cabal is the FED. IT supplies "blood" to every part of the evil body that is the satanic cabal.
"Trust the Plan" means just that; POTUS had to light a long fuse on the FED's dismemberment. First, before you get to the heart, start with the extremities–expose the cancer that is riddled throughout the body. Save the heart for last.
The Senate trial is the STAGE.
Trump has demonstrated patience to a watching world.
He endured a 2+ year FBI investigation–that found nothing to indict/impeach him on (as the world watched). He then endured a painful-to-watch House "trial" in which he was allowed NO defense; presumed guilt, until proven innocent–without the means to prove that innocence).
What happens next (starting tomorrow, 1/21/2020) will be BIBLICAL. Rudy will lead off as first witness. They will call Hunter, Joe, etc, all of whom will refuse to cooperate. Who knows–maybe we will even see JA take the stage…but I digress.
The point is that we are literally 9 months away from the Presidential election and this trial will grind away during the lead-up. It will open other doors of inquiry and lead to the People's GREAT AWAKENING (even if many don't acknowledge it publicly–until the POLLS).
Once he has won in a historic landslide victory (largely because the population has awaken to their dirty ruler's abject corruption)–THEN he will turn to the beating-heart of the beast; the FED.
By then, people will be weary of all swamp creatures and institutions–including the FED. Their almonds will be fully-activated–suspicious of everything. ESPECIALLY when the markets crash!
Imagine the FED attempting, at that moment in time, to blame POTUS. No game.
Don't worry though. Trump has repeatedly said "THE BEST IS YET TO COME" (when referring to the markets/your 401ks). Short-term pain–long-term gain.
This is when and where he CHALLENGES the FED. As markets tank (to true-value levels or below), our newly re-elected and fearless leader will DEMAND we AUDIT THE FED!
The rest (of their miserable, lying, cheating, murderous, treasonous existence) will be a slow-motion death-spiral. In the end–Trump will step in to save the day once again and "REORGANIZE" the FED and nationalize it. As a means to prevent the same type of nefarious activity in the future–he will then introduce a GOLD-BACKED Currency.
The price of gold will be allowed to find it's true, open market equilibrium–FREE from market manipulation, or naked-short selling (see current House Bill in waiting for details).
The price of gold will go up. Silver will follow. The end result is the new USD being pegged to the newly-achieved, free-market price.
Welcome to AMERICA'S GOLDEN AGE.
WWG1WGA (so go buy some gold or silver, frens!)
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000000 No.7863677
>>7861785
NowC@mesTHEP@in—-23!!!
HUGE impression that this means something–this week:
NowC@mesTHEP@in—-23!!!
Senate trial starts on Tuesday, the 21st
Q's last post on Sunday, Dec 29th…
Exactly 23 DAYS before the TRIAL OF THE MILLENIUM
#3774
If Russia didn't [hack] the DNC (insider breach)…..
& US INTEL supported Russia [breach] claim……
What does that tell you?
THE US GOV [UNDER POTUS] WENT THROUGH [STILL ONGOING] A MAJOR REMOVE/REPLACE OPERATION.
TRAITORS EVERYWHERE.
'DRAIN THE SWAMP' HAS 'REAL' MEANING.
[Mueller][impeachment] all meant to 'slowdelayprevent' the exposure [& prosecution] of their crimes.
Will new articles of impeachment be 'continually' drafted in effort to hold as ammunition to prevent Senate hearings re: [D] party corruption?
Moves & countermoves.
The 'silent' war continues.
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39d426 No.7864215
>>7863677
>Q's last post on Sunday, Dec 29th…
He posted on 1/19…
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074854 No.7864955
>>7861785
>Once he has won in a historic landslide victory THEN he will turn to the beating-heart of the beast; the FED.
>By then, people will be weary of all swamp creatures…Their almonds will be fully-activated–suspicious of everything. ESPECIALLY when the markets crash!
>"THE BEST IS YET TO COME" (when referring to the markets/your 401ks). Short-term pain–long-term gain.
>This is when and where he CHALLENGES the FED.
>"REORGANIZE" the FED and nationalize it. As a means to prevent the same type of nefarious activity in the future–he will then introduce a GOLD-BACKED Currency.
>The price of gold will be allowed to find it's true, open market equilibrium–FREE from market manipulation, or naked-short selling (see current House Bill in waiting for details).
Good post, enjoyed reading it. Thanks.
One aspect I’ve struggled with is reconciling how the financial boogaloo would go down as “wealth” being removed WILL wake normies up and piss them the hell off.
In trying to figure out the reason behind Trump pimping the stock market and having the FED juice the numbers with faux-fiat-debt the best recon I’ve got so far is by encouraging more normies to enter the market, more normies will be woken up when the boogaloo happens.
Example:
>1 Normie invest in market
>2 Market goes up, normies investment goes up, at least on paper
>3. Normies are happy due to paper gains
>4 BOOGALOO!
> 5 Normie’s numbers collapse beneath initial buy in amount, loss on paper, normie is now pissed AND also woken up.
>6 CRITICAL POINT: depending upon who controls the narrative - hopefully Trump - this “pissed” energy can then be spun to a productive end…”we need to go back to a based currency; FED made the mess, they need to clean it up, there’s a light at the end of the tunnel if we can pull through, etc.”
…and in addition to whoever buys into the market, there will also be a large contingent of retiring boomers who’s welfare will indirectly, if not directly, depend on the market via pensions and other such retirement schemes.
Key is this: a market correction WILL CREATE PAIN in the short-term. PAIN WILL WAKE PEOPLE THE FUCK UP. Once people are woke - and pissed - control of the narrative is CRITICAL as it will direct where all that pissed energy will go.
Assuming Trump/Q have control of the narrative at this point, and presumably building on this public distrust arising from the non-economic factor of the plan - e.g. pedo/corruption/treason BS - it seems the stage could be set for public acceptance of a financial reset (?)
Once you get the population onboard with a financial reset, you then open the door to transitioning back to a based currency, restricting/removing the debt, and so on.
Another anon posted above about using SSI as a way to reset the currency and I think s/he was onto something although I argued in a post up thread a refund of monies tendered in tax payments + small amount of FDIC/NCUA insurance for accounts seemed logical and understandable by the vast majority, especially if one believes the digital ledger will be wiped.
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000000 No.7877150
>>7864955
Thanks for engaging–great dialog going now!
First, I know a fair amount about the ROAD TO ROOTA theory and its alleged author, BIX WEIR (I got my first BTC from him as a gift-with-purchase of his yearly membership). That was the best part of Bix–the free BTC. I am now convinced (after countless hours of YT videos, his online articles and the like) that BIX IS A PAID SHILL. But I digress… Let's get back to the TRUTH we are mining.
Let's put the pieces together:
1. The Senate Trial (and both related and un-related events) will finally SHOWCASE CORRUPTION (finally!)
2. Over the next 24 months, the 150k+ sealed indictments will be unsealed and we will (finally) see arrests
3. Additionally, between now and the election, we will see the fallout from #1 above; DEM CORRUPTION will lead to further revelations–enough to partially WAKE the normies…
4. TRUMP wins his second term in a HISTORIC LANDSLIDE ELECTION
5. The real PAIN begins in full force. Having won the next 4 years and having the population beginning to wake up, he is now positioned to put the pedal to the metal.
6. CARPET (TRUTH-) BOMBS: increased speed of indictments, arrests, tribunals (for crimes of TREASON/SEDITION/AGAINST HUMANITY), trials for the rest–ALL TELEVISED via newly-resurected COURT TV
7. COGNITIVE DISSONANCE in full-force. Putting yourself in their shoes, imagine that you just WOKE to the unavoidable TRUTH and realization that EVERYTHING YOU PUT YOUR TRUST/FAITH IN IS A LIE. A dangerous time indeed. The Plan will "ease" them into and through this critical moment; without caution, we risk civil war (or worse).
8. NOW, THE FED… Once the sheep have had proper mourning/processing time to digest that most everything they (we) have been told is a lie–they will become SUSPICIOUS of EVERY OLD, ESTABLISHED INSTITUTION. Now the sub-points:
A. The market finally crashes under the crushing weight of the debt-based, fiat ponzi-scheme
B. The FED will be the LAST institution that ANYBODY TRUSTS after the average normie's 401k drops 70%
C. TRUMP & the WHITE HATS have more control over the narrative than anyone else at this point, given the AWAKENING that is now in full swing (the "loudest" MSM clowns have also been indicted for TREASON by now)
D. POTUS & team LAUNCH THE NARRATIVE:
"THE FED HAS CRASHED THE ECONOMY DUE TO THEIR INEPTITUDE AND MISMANGEMENT"
NOTE: To your point–at this point in time, the market loses are ON-PAPER
E. POTUS announces his two-part plan:
I. E.O. POWERS THAT ACTIVATE TEMPORARY "FINANCIAL CONTROLS" TO PROTECT CITIZENS' WEALTH (think Greece–think a "STOCK-MARKET FREEZE")
II. A PRESIDENTIAL DEMAND TO AUDIT THE FED (game over)
F. The FED is audited and found to be CRIMINAL as well as inept
G. POTUS ANNOUNCES CRIMINAL CHARGES FOR "OWNERS" OF THE FED + TOP MANAGERS
H. POTUS introduces a new GOLD-BACKED CURRENCY (H.R.5404)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/5404/text
"During the 30-month period following the date of enactment of this Act, the United States Government shall take timely and reasonable steps to disclose all of its holdings of gold, together with a contemporaneous report of any United States governmental purchases or sales, thus enhancing the ability of the market and of market participants to arrive at the fixed dollar-gold parity in an orderly fashion."
I. 30-Months later or so, the new USD is pegged to the newly-established (free from market manipulation) price of gold. As such, a re-indexing of all (priorly-held) financial assets occurs, based on the new STRENGTH of the USD
J. "PAPER-LOSES" are minimized due to Financial Controls–which are then lifted
WELCOME TO AMERICA'S NEW GOLDEN AGE!
WWG1WGA (so go buy some gold or silver!)
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10d0b7 No.7879584
>>7877150
Bix is 100% either a paid shill or a moron.
These videos are also both interesting dives into the Q / Bitcoin connection:
https://youtu.be/-F5Sk6rQVjY
https://youtu.be/hAbyp1IXwy4
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39d426 No.7958726
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9cb0e9 No.7972037
>>7751239
It's not debt that fucks with housing it's usery.
With the average person paying 3-8% on a six figure purchase annually, and 6% on fees to purchase, it's pretty clear that over time banks end up owning most the houses/land and can then control the price to ensure they appreciate more than income. Forcing people into renting.
What's a person do when they sell their house? Either buy another and pay the fees/interest, or invest in another bank controlled market allowing banks to use that money to buy more housing.
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5fe552 No.7972879
>>6226432
BTC chart is gearing up for the next leg up should hit $17-$18k, breaking $12k should get it going pretty quickly
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5fe552 No.7972920
>>7864955
Trump’s tweets have been on point when SPX gets to critical resistances.. they recognize that there will be a crash so they need to get it pumping up as much as they can in the meantime.. my opinions
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6a6477 No.7978807
Anyone have thoughts on how the financial reset reconciles with alien disclosure? Will money even be necessary when the advanced tech is released? Do other planets use money within their own societies? Is a financial reset an intermediate step to disclosure and therefore the reason we have to play it out?
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d329bc No.7980223
>>7861785
Looks like the boys at the CFTC are reducing the speculator's ability to suppress prices. Part of the plan for a natural reset?
https://www.thefencepost.com/news/cftc-approves-speculative-positions-rule-with-vote-along-partisan-lines/
https://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/8112-20
"On a 3-2 vote, the Commission approved a proposal for new and amended regulations concerning speculative position limits to conform to the Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act of 2010 (the Dodd-Frank Act) amendments to the Commodity Exchange Act.
The proposal included new and/or amended federal spot month limits for 25 physical commodity derivatives and physically-settled and linked cash-settled futures, options on futures, and economically equivalent swaps for such commodities. The proposal includes certain exemptions from position limits, such as a revised definition of “bona fide hedging transactions or positions” and an expanded list of enumerated bona fide hedges to cover additional hedging practices…
This proposed rule has a 90-day comment period ending on April 29, 2020."
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263146 No.7981452
New meaning to "Gold shall destroy FED."?
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39d426 No.8000946
https://twitter.com/jack/status/1223841364711854080
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10d0b7 No.8003955
>>8000946
what [@jack] calls "bitcoin" is the DS version. It's not bitcoin. It's a disfigured imposter meant to help crime (human trafficking, etc.).
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39d426 No.8007023
>>8003955
Seems to really help if being able to track it is helping lead to all these arrests…
Keep trying, Craig.
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d98050 No.8021195
>>7981452
But why a dragon? I thought reptiles were the enemy?
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39d426 No.8023468
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08ecef No.8025679
>>8023468
So is BSV some joint economic venture between the US and China? I saw there's significant usage of it over there
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39d426 No.8030246
>>8025679
smoke and mirrors. no one is using BSV, don't kid yourself. trading volumes don't equate to usage.
I lean powerfully toward Craig being full of shit until he offers some legit proof.
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e99a9a No.8032218
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d57ae8 No.8063306
>>7877150
my only thoughts are Q said there was intent to crash the market before elections, but they had a plan to either use it or delay it. The reset would definitely come during a crash. markets have stopgaps to halt trading for such events. if the fed was requesting money it would be easy to let it die or instead of bailout, restructure so metals are reevaluated and agreed to trade on the price set in the country being sold.
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39d426 No.8064183
>>8063306
Best time for the crash would be sept/oct but their hand will likely get forced the deeper they get exposed. They won't be able to wait. We could get a dip and a recovery even before the election. gold backing, phase 2, england deal, etc. There's a long chain of ammo to counter attack any attack on the economy. These people are stupid. They have no ammo left, just one big gun, and the longer they wait, the more we have to counter. They're caught because they can't blow the load early or it's not effective. So dumb.
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39d426 No.8064254
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f0a462 No.8079409
>>8064254
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/its-time-ask-again-what-really-happened-ukraines-missing-gold
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b8a49b No.8084837
>>8064254
3.5 years later these sick fucks are free & easy.
No sign of justice. They will die first of natural causes.
The same rigged systems are held in place.
ENJOY THE FUCKING SHOW!
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000000 No.8086512
>>8064254
MOST importantly–QATAR does NOT have an EXTRADITION TREATY w/ the USA…
HRC knew that IF Trump won–her neck would be in a noose. So, xfer $1.8B to a country who will not extradite her (or her $$s) as an "insurance policy"
Now for the escape to Qatar…
5:5?
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39d426 No.8088764
>>8086512
mini nukes?
world cup?
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a3190b No.8089331
>>7877150
>>7879584
Why do you believe bix is a paid shill? Genuinely asking, who is he shilling for?
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952ee6 No.8096020
>>7972037
No, it is debt.
Consider. If I want to buy a house and I have $100,000, that's as nice of a house as I can buy.
But, if I can borrow an extra $100,000, now I can buy a house that's worth $200,000.
What is the effect on the price of housing if everyone can borrow more than they have to buy the asset? Buyers are no longer competing with their own wealth, they are competing with credit. The buyer who can get the most credit gets the house he wants.
It's literally the exact cause of the housing price boom that has enslaved us all. Houses don't cost that much; all mortgages are essentially helicopter money on the housing sector.
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952ee6 No.8096116
>>7978807
> Anyone have thoughts on how the financial reset reconciles with alien disclosure?
We exist because of gold. The sun is a rare star that produces more gold than most. It is a beacon for greedy aliens.
They didn't want to mine it themselves, so they made us out of pigs and monkeys (we're hybrids, which is why we have difficult conceiving compared to non hybrid animals).
We escaped from the bondage, they devised a smarter bondage to get us back, and here we are.
> Will money even be necessary when the advanced tech is released?
Yes. While advanced societies might not be scarce in the things we are scarce in, scarcity still exists. Money is the civilized way to settle competing claims to scarce assets, there is no superior solution.
> Do other planets use money within their own societies?
Yes, they use gold. It can only be made by a star. God's beautiful design makes it impossible for anything less to make a stable gold atom.
> Is a financial reset an intermediate step to disclosure and therefore the reason we have to play it out?
Financial reset = severing the bonds.
Disclosure = leading us out of the cave.
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cfdd8b No.8110482
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cfdd8b No.8110491
Let's shoot tucker with the railgun
Hannity too
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cfdd8b No.8110519
>>7671127
Try going up two buttplug sizes
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cfdd8b No.8110559
Let's shoot tucker with the railgun
Hannity too
And Comey
And trump
And HRC
And podesta
And gwb jr/sr
And Lynn
And prol Greta too to be safe
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08ecef No.8117044
>>8096116
thank you very much! fascinating stuff. so it really is all about the gold
>Disclosure = leading us out of the cave.
the bear will leave its cave forever?
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39d426 No.8131279
I wonder how many bitcoins in China are now lost forever…
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c209b0 No.8131386
>>8117044
>the bear will leave its cave forever?
I was thinking Plato's cave, but poor writing is usually the cause of misunderstanding. My bad :)
Hey, did you notice us talking about gold got maxresdefault-bot's attention? What a faggot!
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e7aba6 No.8133504
>>8089331
BW older research is solid but people get confused and think no one knew any of that prior to his arrival. His stance on crypto's is a riot. Actually thought that the UN coming in and blessing litecoin in 2018 was a good thing. He has gone off the rails after that. Also not the expert on repo's that he claims to be-his math on the daily amounts do not make sense. Still doesn't mean he is a shill. I've learned some things to fill in the gaps about the COMEX manipulations that I did not know-the earlier fuckery with the treasury removing the phyzz silver for the manhattan project for instance and then claiming to put it back after-they did not. But understand that many people knew of the rootA theory long before he came along.
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42eb4e No.8134340
>>8131386
Damn bots lol. Didnt know that one was triggered by gold.
Do you know if other planets use distributed ledgers? If so I'd guess they use gold and distributed ledgers for different purposes
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bffd96 No.8162486
Boies Schiller Flexner LLP filed to represent defendant Ripple Labs in class action lawsuit. Previous work includes defending Harvey Weinstein, consulting Burisma Holdings, and employing Hunter Biden.
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.334410/gov.uscourts.cand.334410.77.0.pdf
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b02204 No.8207224
——————
Monday, Monday…
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39d426 No.8218101
https://bitcoinist.com/sec-to-decide-wilshire-phoenix-bitcoin-etf/
US SEC TO DECIDE ON LAST REMAINING BITCOIN ETF IN 1 WEEK
AvatarRICARDO MARTINEZ | FEB 19, 2020 | 15:00
Wilshire Phoenix BTC ETF
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1407fc No.8235868
>>8089331
Pretty much what the below anon, said. He's probably just can't think straight.
>>8133504
Thank you anon, that all makes sense, but I didn't know anyone figured out RootA before Bix.
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1407fc No.8235938
BAKER NEEDED
Hello moneyfags - Baker here. I will not be baking the next bread.
I believe the banking/monetary issue has been researched to the depth that is necessary. If anons read all four breads so far, I think what's happening is clear.
I will be spending my efforts elsewhere in the GA.
That said if another anon would like to keep these breads going, please alert us as to your intention to do so and the next bread will be yours to beak. Dough is pasted early in the thread.
It has been a pleasure digging with all of you.
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39d426 No.8238750
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. "I may start a war against Bitcoin." -Warren Buffet
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you…" -Mahatma Gandhi
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39d426 No.8243185
>>8218101
https://www.wilshirephoenix.com/united-states-gold-and-treasury-investment-trust-files-s-1-registration-statement-with-sec/
Jan 14, 2020
Essentially the same type of mixed etf of treasuries with BTC but with treasuries and gold.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sec-decide-fate-another-bitcoin-140000860.html
“We’re confident we will have the bitcoin ETF soon, and the gold ETF won’t be far behind. We are aiming to launch a lot more products as well,” Herrmann said.
Phoenix Rising
https://www.wilshirephoenix.com/who-we-are/our-leadership/
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412aa1 No.8245638
While they implement Global Quantum A.I. BlockChain currency
It was all a trap
A.I. will be IN the currency. Every transaction tracked & taxed.
By the time Patriots know….it will already be too late.
The unbreakable quantum blockchain goes around the neck
#Coronavirus was the trigger.
Enjoy your 'vaccine' to get your 'money'
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39d426 No.8245824
>>8245638
Cryptography is just a tool. Blockchain can be weaponized against them. Don't be narrow-minded.
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39d426 No.8257518
>>8243185
https://www.crypto-news-flash.com/is-the-first-bitcoin-etf-in-history-coming-on-february-26/
Today…Ash Wednesday
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53e69d No.8272255
>>8257518
>Wilshire Phoenix BTC ETF
got rejected buddy
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50c6a2 No.8272325
>>8245824
>don't BE so narrowminded
"And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark—the name of the beast or the number of its name."
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50c6a2 No.8272333
>>8245824
It's very strange, you write :
>don't be narrow-minded
But I read :
>don't speak be silent conform
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39d426 No.8274265
>>8272255
The Phoenix has to die first before rising from the ashes, buddy.
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39d426 No.8274357
>>8272325
>>8272333
I'm aware of this and agree, but I'm not a fatalist. Again, these are just tools, and tools can be used against those that invent them. Nuclear energy was used for nuclear bombs. Perhaps if decentralized consensus mechanisms, starting first with Bitcoin, were made with evil intent, then perhaps we can wield them, update them, or innovate on them for good. Is my position clearer?
I'm more pro-Bitcoin than against it…certainly a shit-coin minimalist, but that doesn't mean I don't see the danger and the correlations…nor does it mean that I don't trust in the fact of great human minds and good hearts to overcome challenges. If that means doing away with crypto, so be it. I doubt that is the case, particularly listening to the various voices, think FINRA, SEC, CME, etc., not least of which is POTUS' FED board recommendation, that have given testimony to the congress. I have and I've been following it for a long time very closely. I'm not naively throwing out an opinion. Sure, it's an opinion still, so take it or leave it.
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c982d2 No.8275923
>>8162486
This and other current and future proceedings will set the ball rolling to destroy 99% of listings on CoinMarketCap as all are unregistered securities
Aside from money laundering and getting rich quick scams——their purpose was to distract you from what is possible with Bitcoin (2009)——more than just money
Once the first judgments and settlements start to roll out (millions and billions) every last person who ever lost any amount of money buying a shitcoin will file against the shitcoin founders/management team for not only what they lost but multiples of damages
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39d426 No.8276641
>>8275923
It's going to be hard to recover much, but I have a short list of people that I think are worth going after. I'd start with Brock Pierce, but don't waste too much time on the underlings. The big money is up at the top. This shit goes straight to people like Soros and his counterparts in various countries also.
Keep an eye on SAFE and Solid development in addition to BTC. Don't invest. There will be time to do that and still make money, but it's just too speculative at the moment. That said. What Tim Berners-Lee, MIT media lab, and Maidsafe are working on is something for which I have very strong reason to believe will be in the 0.1% of projects to survive long-term if they can get off the ground. There's quite a bit of evidence also that it might be something more than just what meets the eyes.
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39d426 No.8283824
>>8283812 off bread
BRIEF-Wilshire Phoenix Responds To SEC Order Issued In Connection With The United States Bitcoin And Treasury Investment Trust
1 MIN READ
Feb 28 (Reuters) - WILSHIRE PHOENIX :
* WILSHIRE PHOENIX RESPONDS TO SEC ORDER ISSUED IN CONNECTION WITH THE UNITED STATES BITCOIN AND TREASURY INVESTMENT TRUST
* WILSHIRE PHOENIX - DISAPPOINTED BY SEC’S DECISION
* WILSHIRE PHOENIX - REVIEWING SEC ORDER AND DETERMINING BEST NEXT STEPS Source text for Eikon:
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b62abf No.8288974
Interesting notable from the general thread.
>>8286761
>The Fed Reserve and the System it's tied to is in no position to 'pay' people to use currency and expand the market/financial supply.
>They've got 30 different Wars going, they've got illegal immigrants to move around and pandemics to spread. They need more money. They need more reserves. They need more liquidity.
>POTUS is about to drive the Fed into Negative Interest Rates, dry up their cash flow and start assuming control of the money supply while at the same time auditing and valuing the hard financial stock of the US Treasury in a monetary currency/asset coupling inaugural implementation.
>In laymans words, POTUS is using existing US Monetary Policy to legally bring down the Federal Reserve as a currency manager/reserve banking system and re-couple the American Dollar to internal US commodities/assets which lead to the US Treasury taking control of Currency Printing for the converted Dollar backing assets.
>The new 'Federal Reserve Bank' liquidity will once again be the Financial Worthiness of the US Treasury and nothing more. The dollar will have a real and recorded wealth.
>It's happening Anons. President Trump, the stable genius, is bringing down the Fed and putting it under the US Treasury, just like he took the CIA and put it's responsibilities under the NSA/MilIntel, even though on paper the CIA still exists, a shell of what it once was.
>Brilliant Q+, just brilliant.
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b62abf No.8310663
4ch/pol thread of note
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/246338388/
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Here is the series of events that will take place instead.
>coronachan devistates world economy
>all countries bend knee economically to their ((central banks)) for liquidity
>USD begins to inflate dramatically
>doesn't stop stock market from tanking
>emergency meeting called by Trump
>audit of US gold supply from several sources takes place.
>audit comes back with surprising result… The us has 10x more gold than was previously on the books.
((it seems that Trump has raided the gold supply of the elite in return for immunity deals))
>announces that Treasury dollars are now available and backed by gold and silver at a rate of $100,000 treasury dollars per oz of gold.
>any US CITIZEN can exchange the money in their bank accounts for a new US treasury account (exchange rate of USD to new UST to be determined somewhere between 1/1 and 1/10 probably)
>all of ((their)) banks fail as CITIZENS begin mass exodus of USD and open a Treasury bank account.
Trumps master plan begins to take shape. Trump has taken a simple stone (gold) and crushed ((them)) with it. Trump has finished the work of Jackson and routed the vipers completely out.
This sets USA up for literal golden era while all other central bank countries begin to collapse around us.
Manufacturing comes back and new life is breathed into the USA. All other countries want to do business with us as they collapse.
screen this.
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39d426 No.8312403
>>8310663
With zero sauce, mind you. Pure speculation.
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af1fb4 No.8314639
>>7708988
No retard. Gold and silver will be.
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af1fb4 No.8314663
>>8245638
You cant be this paid, I mean stupid.
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109e38 No.8315496
>>8314663
That fren is a 'woke' Trump-on-a-pedestal worshiper.
Brainwashed only to not look at everything and even make shit up.
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39d426 No.8321199
>>8315496
>>8314663
"Bitcoin Derangement Syndrome" -Giacomo Zucco
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39d426 No.8324514
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e677dd No.8333421
CNBC talking stimulus this morning like it's an accomplished fact.
The only point of contention is how much.
Predictions ranged from $400B to $1T
Personally, I expect closer to $2T
Checks in the mailbox by June if this keeps going. I just hope they keep the gold price down until then so I can pick up a bit.
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844e27 No.8341889
Is it too late to buy Zim, Dinar, or Vietnamese Dong? Where is a reliable place I can buy it?
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39d426 No.8342265
>>8333421
I'd wager that those people in offshore havens are going to end up on the wrong side of the fiscal paradise unless they come clean and pony up.
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f07a42 No.8391415
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f07a42 No.8391426
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1407fc No.8392079
>>8391415
Interesting. Calvin has made many nods to Q w/likes. It looks like he deleted this RT though - perhaps people informed him that AS was a megaLARP.
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39d426 No.8394742
>>8391426
https://www.coindesk.com/the-cryptocurrency-act-of-2020-is-dead-on-arrival-washington-dc-tells-sponsors
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636db1 No.8408922
PSA to all anons considering taking a precious metals position: spot prices fell the past two weeks for PMs.
One suspect cause is sell off of paper GLD, SLV, etc. by traders to meet margin calls and/or maintain liquidity. Since this is all paper - no one is actually taking delivery of a PM - the """supply""" is increased without a matching uptick in demand and spot prices fall.
The net effect is Ag is down in the mid $14 range (so you're looking at ~mid $17's to pick up Silver Eagles) and the Gold-to-Silver ratio is over 100; that is to say it takes about 100oz's of Ag to buy 1 oz of Au. Take away from this ratio is Silver is currently cheap - very cheap - compared to Gold.
Personally I am aiming to pick up more Ag next week, hunker down, and then see what opportunities arise…ideally exchanging portions of my Ag for Au when the Gold-to-Silver ratio gets back down to 50/40/30.
Would also note the large PM dealers allow you to buy with a credit card, albeit at ~3% premium to cover the processing costs. Only mention this as an angle if you've got access to a CC promo (e.g. no interest on new purchases for 12 months or whatnot) or if you think the value of fiat will fall quick enough to justify holding the real asset…in other words by the time you pay it back the dollar would have weakened enough to justify whatever costs you had to incur to buy the PMs in the first place on the card.
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9f8ff1 No.8444164
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328a25 No.8446564
WHEN IS THE FUCKING DIP? I PUT MY LIFE SAVINGS INTO ETRADE RIGHT NOW
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39d426 No.8451271
>>8446564
BUY VTSAX AND SHUT YOUR TRAP.
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c9760e No.8451667
>>8446564
Well, you just fukked yerself hard.
RIGGED markets will stay RIGGED.
Another trillion+ of fiat $ coming at ya…
The puppeteering continues with Trump.
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29d61f No.8475322
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c9760e No.8477385
Wrong.
Gold won't destroy nuthin.
The same, failed system breathes 'life'…
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39d426 No.8479280
>>8475322
Just a counterpoint so people know who Calvin Ayre is and what BSV supports. Tip of the iceberg…
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bffd96 No.8480959
>>8479280
The picture's real but the news is fake & Craig Wright hunted pedos for a living dipshit
The Storm will sort it out nonetheless
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39d426 No.8485755
>>8480959
>Craig Wright hunted pedos for a living dipshit
sauceless…dipshit.
fucking soul patch is sleazy af
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516e56 No.8578022
what's the consensus?
10 days of darkness beginning soon?
everyone have their Q proofs saved to hard drive?
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a3190b No.8579118
>>8238750
"I may start a Warren currency"
I fixed it
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ce750f No.8579246
I think I figured it out.
The Platinum and Gold Act of 1995
That's what Q means when he states Gold Destroys the Fed.
It's explained in here
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1243284573875830785.html
We're all about to get Digital Wallets. The FED will still exist, it will be restructured. Digital Dollars are about to End the FED as we know it today
https://www.coindesk.com/the-overton-window-opens-for-a-digital-dollar
https://www.coindesk.com/4-reasons-central-banks-should-launch-retail-digital-currencies
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ce750f No.8579270
>>6125584
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1243284573875830785.html
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ce750f No.8579362
>>6304000
Why has no one realized what's going on yet?
The platinum and Gold Bullion Act of 1995
ENDS THE FED
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1243284573875830785.html
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ce750f No.8579449
>>8579246
>>8579246
NICE LOGO
GOLD ENDS THE FED
THE GOLD BULLION ACT OF 1995
IT ALLOWS THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY TO MINT COINS AND SEPARATELY DETERMINE THEIR VALUE.
THERE'S A LOOPHOLE IN THE BILL
WE ARE ABOUT TO GET DIGITAL DOLLARS. LOOK WHO IS ON THE BOARD!!!!!!! IT ALL FITS TOGETHER
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b62abf No.8580133
>>8579362
>>8579449
>>8579270
>THERE'S A LOOPHOLE IN THE BILL
Okay - so Treasury orders the mint to produce a $1T coin, or two, depositing them into the FED effectively circumventing the all Dollars MUST be borrowed into existence issue.
Clever. Think I get that part. Also get how you wipe out the FED's only real product - fiat - by forcing the FED to create fiat but not through itself.
Also get how the Chy-na virus is prepping for the phase out of old notes to transition to new notes.
→ Don't get the digital dollar part.
>According to the draft, the digital dollar will be “dollar balances consisting of digital ledger entries recorded as liabilities in the accounts of any Federal Reserve bank.”
So the FED now can tell me in one spot all the dollars I have on deposit with any individual member bank? No thanks.
Suspect I'm retarded here.
→ Don't get how "Gold destroys FED".
Would appear Platinum destroys FED (?)
Or perhaps "Gold" refers to the "Gold Bullion Act" not the actual metal? But if so, why are Central Banks worldwide amassing gold?
→ Don't get why the FED is pumping dollars into foreign central banks.
(?)
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39d426 No.8580291
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ce750f No.8580315
>>8580133
The ACT
the platinum and GOLD bullion act of 1995
Q gives us hints, doesn't tell us things.
GOLD ENDS THE FED is to much 'on the nose'
>Digital Dollar Part:
Digital Currencies are called COINS, there's a reason they are Coins, not dollars.
The theory is that the Secretary of the Treasury can Mint a Trillion $ Platinum COIN and define it's value however he wants.
The Secretary is Minting Digital Coins and defining their value.
Consider this the updated digital age version.
Admiral Rogers retired from the military to sit on the board of TEAM8, TEAM8 owns CURV. look what CURV does.
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ce750f No.8580454
>>8580315
It all fits with the bill that just got passed.
The Secretary of the Treasury has a slew of new job duties.
It's habbening folks!!!!
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ce750f No.8580498
>>8580454
The Media is starting to leak it
WE ARE ALL GETTING STIMULUS CHECKS DEPOSITED INTO OUR BRAND NEW DIGITAL WALLETS.
WHAT BETTER WAY TO HAVE US START USING THESE DIGITAL WALLETS THAN TO PUT A $1000 OR TWO IN THEIR FOR EACH OF US!!!!
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-03-24/coronavirus-stimulus-let-s-pay-it-in-digital-dollars
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ce750f No.8580520
>>8580498
https://www.coindesk.com/us-senate-floats-digital-dollar-bill-after-house-scrubs-term-from-coronavirus-relief-plan
https://www.coindesk.com/the-overton-window-opens-for-a-digital-dollar
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b62abf No.8581114
>>8580315
>Q gives us hints, doesn't tell us things.
>GOLD ENDS THE FED is to much 'on the nose'
Can't argue with that!
Digital Dollar Part:
>Digital Currencies are called COINS, there's a reason they are Coins, not dollars.
Is it because "coins" is not associated with a *specific* currency while still being associated with currency in general? If so, would "notes" also work here too…even if bitnotes sound far less interesting than bitcoins?
>The theory is that the Secretary of the Treasury can Mint a Trillion $ Platinum COIN and define it's value however he wants.
>The Secretary is Minting Digital Coins and defining their value.
Philosophical question: isn't this just fiat but with more steps? As long as the medium of exchange can be debased, it's only a matter of time before purchasing power is covertly stolen from digital asset holders through inflation vs. overt theft through someone hacking their private key.
What guarantees the FED / Treasury / whoever from printing or copypasta'ing digital [whatevers] into oblivion? First answer which comes to my mind is every digital dollar is link to a specific real world hard asset (i.e. each digital dollar is linked to 1oz of gold).
Any idea how to reconcile digital dollars with the fact central banks worldwide have been scooping up gold for the past three years are record paces?
"Central Bank Gold Hoarding Hits 50-Year High"
http://archive.is/EN5j8
> Central banks accumulated over 668 tons in gold purchases this year, which is more than 2018’s record numbers. In fact, the key drivers in gold demand this year stemmed from central bank purchases, most of which were bought (390 tons) during the first two quarters of 2019.
>Consider this the updated digital age version.
Think I partially get this. I get they can improve the underlying tech/math/algos which support the distributed ledger but still don't get how the updated version deals with the more fundamental problem of using a fiat unit of currency vs. a based unit of money.
Basically my question is this: okay, so they updated the technical side. Good, I guess…but does this even matter if there's not an answer to the how-to-base-the-digital-dollar-so-it's-not-fiat?
Again, I can't help but note CB's are hoovering up gold and wonder if we'll see something akin to what new-note-anon suggested upthread with a tri-part system where an oz of metal was linked to a digital coin and a note.
>Admiral Rogers retired from the military to sit on the board of TEAM8, TEAM8 owns CURV. look what CURV does.
Read CURV whitepaper - here's what I got from it.
CURV acts as an independent party who is needed to sign off digitally WITH asset owner to complete a transaction. Neither CURV nor the asset owner can independently sign a transaction, effectively establish dual-control for digitally signing a transaction. The asset owner can specify limits and thresholds for CURV to request additional confirmation before CURV signs off on its part of the transaction.
>>8579246
>Digital Dollars are about to End the FED as we know it today
Could this be the hook to latch onto all American's existing dollars on deposit with FED member banks to pull them from the old system to the new? Using digital dollars to distribute the COVID relief could be a way to prime the system.
Crazy thought - could a worldwide currency be a requirement for the ayyys?
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53e69d No.8584497
If this gold prophecy is coming true taking a leveraged ETF x 3 position in gold mining.
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8655dc No.8584581
>>8581114
>>8581114
A lot of this stuff is above my pay grade. I apologize for any mistakes in logic.
This poster above laid out a bunch of interesting information. It seems like they may be onto something. What's your opinon?
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a3190b No.8593628
Yeah but, gold standard when?
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b62abf No.8599478
>>8584581
>>8288974
>What's your opinion?
>>8593628
>Yeah but, gold standard when?
I don't think we're going back to a just gold standard. Constitutionally only gold and silver are considered valid - see Article I, section 10:
>No state shall… coin money, emit bills of credit, make any thing but gold and silver a tender in payment of debts…
Since the US mint issues coins in four precious metals (Ag @ $1, Pd @ $25, Au @ $50, and Pt @ $100) my guess is you'll see some "rainbow" approach using all four - and maybe others - as the base.
Again would note the net gold purchases of CBs as well as JPM stacking (and manipulating!) silver over the past decade evidence to me the banksters' bet on Ag and Au.
Look, I honestly don't know what they're going to do BUT do know that Q/CBs/JPM/etc., are far smarter than I with access to resources vastly beyond what we anons have. I am smart enough to know I'm NOT smart enough to know what's really going on. Therefore my plan is to "do what the smart guys do", which I interpret as stacking Gold (safest), Silver (cheapest, g/s ratio above 110!), and Platinum (speculative). Bonus style points if you stack using the system's own tools against itself…hehe.
Sooner or later precious metal pricing will break free from the paper derivative numbers and rise to their true value…that is to say the dollar will fall to its true value in relation to PM. Very curious to see how this plays out as a skyrocketing gold price will spook the market, especially if people are already uneasy about inflation shooting up.
Then again, maybe this is just what the plan calls for. PMs being correctly valued against the dollar showing just how far the dollar has fallen to help catalyze runaway inflation. Existing debts are inflated away, as is the last remaining purchasing power in the USD, and the question then becomes how do we move the population from the old dollar to the new.
For example, if you had $500k of cash saved up that's now worthless how does this move to the new notes?
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d7f53d No.8606870
If Gold and Silver are the only money that truly exist (which I'm not arguing because they're the only thing that can be genuine money, but there are arguments for Pt and Pd to be in the discussion as well), what will the future hold for digital transactions?
In other words, if Credit goes away (which I'm assuming all of you are fully aware of being inevitable), how will we make digital transactions? How will your grandma in Switzerland send you money? How will you pay for that Australian kangaroo suit you've always wanted which isn't available in your local shopping center? How will corporations marketing products to foreigners facilitate their economic exchange?
Guys, there's huge room for an explanation for this empty slot of utility to be filled. We all know exactly none of us will send certificates in the mail, that we won't send someone coins in the mail.
We're already primed for digital transactions and there's something like three different generations that are virtually dependent on it.
Shouldn't we discuss the available options at least? How is the best option not some decentralized blockchain token/coin?
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39d426 No.8608098
>>8606870
https://www.wsj.com/video/opinion-judy-shelton-is-not-trying-to-bring-back-the-gold-standard/28AF8446-89CF-4C4A-8215-33E39F7764E7.html
2/13/2020 7:21PM
Opinion: Judy Shelton Is Not Trying to Bring Back the Gold Standard
In short, she doesn't support going back to the gold standard…but if you watch the original hearing, she does support some kind of standard based in commodities or a basket and modernization, perhaps digitization or digital currencies.
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61574c No.8612906
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1a367c No.8618881
>>8580498
Nationalized currency?
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431a28 No.8644943
>>7267918
Based on CPI Calculator updated to Feb 2020 & closing Bid Prices in New York per Kitco,
I’ll just leave these ‘coincidences’ here for new note anon & others to expound on.
Ag 53% (-47)
Pd 345% (+245)
Au 119% (+19)
Pt 27% (-72)
-120 / +264
Absolute Ratio = 0.45454545
Sum ‘em all up = 144
WWG1WGA!!!
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d7f53d No.8668425
>>8608098
Okay… but I don't understand what this has to do with anon's virtual consensus (us all agreeing would be boring, but let's just suspend a more reasonable perspective for a moment) on US being reverted back to the Gold Standard.
Also, have we ever tried a bimetal standard?…
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d7f53d No.8668448
>>8608098
>>8668425 (me)
I think I just had a retard attack.
I meant to say that I'm not sure what this has to do with the question I posed.
The question I asked still stands, though.
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39d426 No.8668581
>>8668425
>Also, have we ever tried a bimetal standard?…
In 1792, the gold/silver price ratio was fixed by law in the United States at 15:1, which meant that one troy ounce of gold was worth 15 troy ounces of silver; a ratio of 15.5:1 was enacted in France in 1803. The average gold/silver price ratio during the 20th century, however, was 47:1.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4205481-gold-to-silver-ratio-spikes-to-highest-level-in-27-years
>>8668425
>anon's virtual consensus
what consensus?
we're reverting, but reverting forward…not reverting back. I imagine that means a 100 technical upgrade to the "gold standard", whatever that might mean.
maybe I'm not understanding your question but it seems straight-forward.
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20884c No.8668726
>>6308176
if BTC is all tracked how you say…. how ffs did Paul Vernon of Cryptsy disappear to China with 150 of my BTC?? (i think id still be a millionaire) ;(
And yeah… ill namefag the c*nt..
I'm all in Silver now…. and now im getting screwed royally by the comex !!!
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d7f53d No.8668855
>>8668581
<You didn't know we used to have a bimetal standard, anon?
Sorry, see the third post I made.
I went full retard and zoned out during my posting that.
I meant to ask how what you said had to do with the question I asked originally.
I may very well just be being lazy, but I'm not sure I see how we can answer the issue of making transactions with people that are hundreds of miles away.
Are you going to send your cousin in Maine a few coins for fixing your phone before he left from your house in Washington? What about your business partner in India? What if your mom gets robbed in Scotland on vacation and needs you to send her some money so she can get home/continue her vacation?
These are practical applications that can be answered by Crypto and I see it largely dismissed when I ask people to explain how to fix this impending situation by people that are only ever willing to discuss precious metals (which I have no issue with).
Again, I recognize the only real money is precious metals. Please don't just reiterate the same boring lecture most people fall back on time and time again.
>>8668726
The modern world of money laundering uses Crypto nearly exclusively. Cash is certainly still used, but the untraceable nature of Crypto has its shortcommings. After all, there's a reason people were so excited about it in the beginning (taxes).
You should be all in on silver. Besides, what the hell are you complaining about? This shit's on discount and you're going to complain?
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20884c No.8668980
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20884c No.8669043
>>8668855
I already got my physical… besides try get some now 'on discount' lol.. premiums are massive.. youll never get for under 23$ .. I'm UK Anon so i even pay tax on my silver !
my main concern is my massive highly leveraged silver position.. silver needs to be at $50 right now and ill be happy..
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d7f53d No.8669122
>>8669043
I wouldn't worry. It's going MUCH higher than that.
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20884c No.8669149
>>8669122
dont wanna jinx it… but agreed $50 should hopefully just be the start.
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d7f53d No.8669181
>>8669149
That's like comparing a pebble to a mountain, anon
kek
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20884c No.8669234
what you see the gold silver ratio coming down to?
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d7f53d No.8669922
>>8669234
Silver outpaces Gold eventually.
This might be a little further down the road, though.
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000000 No.8695096
POSTED ON KUN:
"Happening – Coronavirus Leads to Treasury Dollar Printing
Anonymous (ID: BTOmFF2X) 03/03/20(Tue)11:22:35 No.246338388 (60 replies shown)
I have inside info. The USA has billions of printed treasury notes in vaults located in every state.
There are Treasury banks already situated and ready to open up for business as soon as a state of emergency is called.
The design and distribution of the Treasury dollars has been a top secret underground project ever since Trump took office.
Trump was hoping to make it to the second term before implementing this plan, but it seems ((they)) are forcing his hand with this coronavirus economic black swan.
((they)) don’t know yet that we are ready to completely do away with their monopoly currency and central bank and go back to a constitutional Treasury based money system.
(they)) think that this black swan event will freeze up the US economy and their plan is to twist the knife by flooding so much USD into the system that not even a wheelbarrow of $100 bills can buy a ramen packet.
Anonymous (ID: BTOmFF2X) 03/03/20(Tue)11:22:45 No.246338408 (48 replies shown)
Here is the series of events that will take place instead.
>>coronachan devastates world economy
>>all countries bend knee economically to their ((central banks)) for liquidity
>>USD begins to inflate dramatically
>>doesn’t stop stock market from tanking
>>emergency meeting called by Trump
>>audit of US gold supply from several sources takes place.
>>audit comes back with surprising result… The us has 10x more gold than was previously on the books.
((it seems that Trump has raided the gold supply of the elite in return for immunity deals))
>>announces that Treasury dollars are now available and backed by gold and silver at a rate of $100,000 treasury dollars per oz of gold.
>>any US CITIZEN can exchange the money in their bank accounts for a new US treasury account (exchange rate of USD to new UST to be determined somewhere between 1/1 and 1/10 probably)
>>all of ((their)) banks fail as CITIZENS begin mass exodus of USD and open a Treasury bank account.
Trumps master plan begins to take shape. Trump has taken a simple stone (gold) and crushed ((them)) with it. Trump has finished the work of Jackson and routed the vipers completely out.
This sets USA up for literal golden era while all other central bank countries begin to collapse around us.
Manufacturing comes back and new life is breathed into the USA. All other countries want to do business with us as they collapse.
screen this."
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d7f53d No.8704992
>>8695096
This is pretty interesting. I'm very excited to see if this comes to fruition.
However, and not to just harp on this non-stop, I think we can all reach a consensus about the coming economic situation and the need for a valued currency. I think the vast majority of us would argue that it's got to be something that has genuine value, like precious metals
With that being said, when was the last time, before the digital age, that a person sent certificates or coins to someone via mail to the other side of the country, or the next country over? How do international businessmen continue their transactions overseas when all they have available for use is certificates and coins? Will any of you trust your certificates with the land and sea shipment process? I can't see myself agreeing to that.
So, this undoubtedly begs the question - without Credit, how do we solve the demand for quick and trustless digital transactions? Is this not a huge question that few are willing to discuss? If the answer is simple and I'm just lazily overlooking it, I'd love if that were the case, but I have yet to be shown by someone kind enough to point me in the proper direction.
Does anyone have any way to explain this? I don't know where else to take this question.
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b62abf No.8705186
>>8704992
>without Credit, how do we solve the demand for quick and trustless digital transactions?
You've got to figure out what can stand in place of a base metal. So far the answer to this has been "notes". But if the new answer is "notes" or "e-notes" you've still got the issue we had before of bad actors printing more notes than the base metals can support.
I don't know what the answer here is but a triple-entry public ledger seems interesting as it links every ounce to a note to a digital note meaning if one were to suddenly add (issue more notes) or subtract (stated metals cannot be physically verified) the ledger system should kick the transaction and/or raise the alarm.
Something like:
++++++++++++++++
DR 1oz Silver
CR $1UST note
ER 1 e-coin
++++++++++++++++
DR = debit, CR = credit, ER = electronic record
The "ER" part of this is what would answer your question of how to tender payment without exchanging metals or notes.
>>8695096
Archive link of that thread here:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/246338388/
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fc67dc No.8712952
>>7727273
>>7401266
could just as well be the punisher
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eca0dd No.8713512
>>8705186
very definition of BASED post
well said anon
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39d426 No.8715135
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d7f53d No.8715146
>>8713512
Agreed. I may just be a victim of confirmation bias, though.
Unfortunately, anon didn't make any additional suggestions beyond what I've long suggested will come to fruition. I suppose I'm just disappointed no one had a better answer. I was hoping that I just didn't know enough about things. Of course, the anon is very well read and seemingly much more interested than I've been. Therefore, I'm thankful that someone who's more knowledgeable can put in to words what I'm suspecting will arise.
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08ecef No.8715910
>>8704992
Gotta be BSV right? Do you think these proofs are legit?
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d7f53d No.8718037
>>8715910
While I don't think this is a terrible assertion and enjoy the theme, I don't like this better than other blockchain technology, frankly.
After all, this is a probability man's game. See, I have no business playing my hand in the realm of guesses and, for that reason, I don't see much point in trying to insist it'll be X or Y.
To be more specific, XRP, BSV, even BTC itself don't excite me enough to go all in. I like to think my bags are both modest and nimble and I personally don't see the whole world of crypto going anywhere (at least) as soon as some here are suggesting.
What I'm really hoping for is a declassification of taxable holdings in the crypto future. That would both really help me out and, I'd like to think, help the innovative world of blockchain.
Of course, I also don't mind at all if I'm wrong because my intention this entire time was to ride the altseason wave and then cash out in to metals anyway. If I'm being honest, though, I do sort of prefer to see crypto have a bigger stake in all of this, particularly one of the ones I've chosen, more fore security reasons than anything else.
Call me lazy, but defending my physical holdings in the future doesn't particularly excite me.
No matter what the future holds, I'm just glad that people more dedicated and capable than me are out there. Some of the shit you guys put together hardly fails to impress me pretty regularly. I wouldn't have it any other way, anon.
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39d426 No.8721288
>>8715910
If Craig isn't Satoshi, this only lends credence to how he steals other people's ideas.
If he is Satoshi, this doesn't mean that he supports BSV. BSV could just be a disruptor to BCH and to keep competition in against BTC until a more appropriate time.
BCH just halved, BTW…headed for the graveyard as miners will leave in droves.
There is so much smoke and so many mirrors. I wouldn't rely on Occam's Razor here…
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d7f53d No.8771939
Does anyone know where to purchase Bullion at spot prices, be it Silver or Gold?
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39d426 No.8808527
https://cointelegraph.com/news/craig-wright-must-prove-access-to-11m-btc-fortune-by-april-17
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89d19e No.8812888
>>8771939
You wont get it at spot. But average retail is 20% over atm.
https://findbullionprices.com/closest-to-spot/
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89d19e No.8812906
>>8771939
https://findbullionprices.com/closest-to-spot/
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89d19e No.8876102
>>8705186
Was noodling on this a little while back in the aforementioned triple ledger system suggested
++++++++++++++++
DR 1oz Silver
CR $1UST note
ER 1 e-coin
++++++++++++++++
DR = debit, CR = credit, ER = electronic record
Would it be at all possible for nefarious entities to debase this type of system?
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5d248f No.8883160
>>6098875
(((Twitter)))
Jews pay a price to handle the money too.
Except on twitter obviously 🙄.
It’s a safe space for retards
All over 8kun too.
Dropped the MEGA bomb in the heart of MAGA territory.
https://8kun.top/qresearch/index.html
See?
QAnon was a Twitter LARP in a Jewish safe (((space)))
Inevitable, like the sun and the moon.
What good are your weapons and poor hurt personal feelings and opinions now?
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4e0c7b No.8883821
>>8695096
>in return for immunity deals
NO DEALS
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4e0c7b No.8883878
>>8606870
>We're already primed for digital transactions
Fuck off with digital currency shit.
If that's what Trump is going to do, he has to be considered a traitor.
If it's optional it's fine. If it's mandatory it's not.
Digital currency can be fully tracked, and you will be dependent on internet, electricity and other shit. And I do not want that.
I mean if that's Trump's great plan, then it looks like the elites tricking us.
>Everyone is "arrested" now, we can now go for digital currency everywhere, because the "evil people" were "arrested" and the people left are people who are totally "trustworthy"
Fuck that.
I don't trust anyone. I don't want to be transparent, not because I have something evil to hide, but I enjoy PRIVACY.
Same goes for 5G.
>Let us just do everything the evil cabal wanted, but we have "arrested" everyone, so now it's totally safe to do this.
>Shouldn't we discuss the available options at least?
NO.
It's not an option.
>How is the best option not some decentralized blockchain token/coin?
Best option to:
- have to trust compromised hardware
- have to trust compromised software
- have to have electricity
- fully trackable (just because you don't get the math, always understand that there is always someone way smarter than you)
- internet or whatever network required
NO, just FUCKING NO.
If it's optional, and there are braindead people going for that fine. Braindead OPTIONS are fine.
Mandatory digital currency is not acceptable AT ALL. It's what the cabal wants badly, because then they can shut off everyone at any time they want to.
Also: I don't even own a smartphone, and I'm not planning to ever own one.
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4e0c7b No.8883943
>>8668726
>how ffs did Paul Vernon of Cryptsy disappear to China with 150 of my BTC??
All tracked doesn't mean that (you) are capable of doing so.
Even physical paper monopoly "money" can be tracked at least a tiny bit. Every "note" has a serial number on it, and you can be sure that when you get "money" from an ATM, the ATM/bank knows which serial numbers you got.
But of course that is it. They can then figure out who deposits these notes, but again that is it. They can't figure out if the "money" went through several hands or not. They can't figure out what and when I bought $thing.
That's why the Nazi-surveillance wants crypto so badly and that's even probably the reason for these retarded threads.
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d7f53d No.8892929
>>8883878
<Stop talking about that, goy!
No, but seriously answer the questions I asked:
How do you propose we solve the issue of not wanting to trust people enough to ship your girlfriend's parents a loan of twelve ounces of silver after they got robbed of all of theirs on a trip to Sweeden?
What do International Business partners do?
Credit is fucked, anon. If you won't face this, you're going to be shocked to your core once you're proven devastatingly wrong.
Once this happens, what's your answer to a world without digital transactions?
You don't have to accept this inevitability, but you do need to figure out how to fix the brainwashing you've incurred as a result of your amusingly dull filter to the methods we've all become rather accustom to here.
>>8883943
By golly you're just oozing with newfag, aren't you?
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