b084ef No.4438539
Q Source Edition Part 2 - Since the shills went so crazy on Part 1
There are no coincidences. The power of the Gospels.
Wikipedia (grain of salt please) describes Q source as - The Q source (also Q document, Q Gospel, or Q from German: Quelle, meaning "source") is a hypothetical written collection of primarily Jesus' sayings (logia). Q is part of the common material found in the Gospels of Matthew and Luke but not in the Gospel of Mark. According to this hypothesis, this material was drawn from the early Church's Oral Tradition.[1][2][3]
Along with Marcan priority, Q was hypothesized by 1900, and is one of the foundations of most modern gospel scholarship.[4] B. H. Streeter formulated a widely accepted view of Q: that it was written in Koine Greek; that most of its contents appear in Matthew, in Luke, or in both; and that Luke more often preserves the text's original order than Matthew. In the two-source hypothesis, the three-source hypothesis and the Q+/Papias hypothesis Matthew and Luke both used Mark and Q as sources. Some scholars have postulated that Q is actually a plurality of sources, some written and some oral.[5] Others have attempted to determine the stages in which Q was composed.[6]
Q's existence has been questioned.[6] Omitting what should have been a highly treasured dominical document from all early Church catalogs, its lack of mention by Jerome is a conundrum of modern Biblical scholarship.[7][dubious – discuss] But copying Q might have been seen as unnecessary as it was preserved in the canonical gospels. Hence, it was preferable to copy the Gospels of Matthew and Luke, "where the sayings of Jesus from Q were rephrased to avoid misunderstandings, and to fit their own situations and their understanding of what Jesus had really meant".[8] Despite challenges, the two-source hypothesis retains wide support.[6]
414c72 No.4441129
>>4438567
>>4440538 pb
>>4440628 pb
See, these here are the true shill liars that come to deceive with their own wannabe imaginations…. claiming their propaganda is "basically" the same?
rubbish infested glow fag liars.
False Teachers
Corrupt in all ways.
Look up the scriptures regarding false teachers and lisyen to GOD
You will never overthrow GOD'S knowledge and Truth that is the Way and Light
How dare you, you spout….
hahahahahahahaha
414c72 No.4441266
>>4438567
Why do you keep repeating your advertisements with liddle pictures like running a bad commercial over and over, thread after thread?
Same circlejerk jerking
Don't you get it yet?
No one in control of their own brain is listening to your worthless propaganda.
Trust GOD only
Trust the Creator
The Living GOD
The Word
King of Kings
King of the universe
Father of our Lord.
Trust Him
Follow His Way
That's where knowledge is found
Not through these idiot human men
Who work for Satan
6173fd No.4441319
>>4440628
There is no Q source. Q source is unsubstantiated hypothetical and changing to fit unbeliever guesswork, primarily used to discredit Jesus and Christianity in general.
It's nothing more than that.
Could launch into a number of reasons why the guys who put this crap together are full of it, but the short version is they think they see contradictions between the writers and accounts, and they then speculate, hypothetically, that the events were recounted wrongly between these writers and a speculative unsubstantiated outside party, Q.
The reality is that variations between Matthew, Mark and Luke are "Divinely Intentional."
Today's political/military Q may turn out to be the real deal "in those arena's." Time will tell all tales on this Q's count.
But speculative hypothetical unsubstantiated piecemeal Jesus quotes Q never existed.
The unseen writer is referenced by John the Apostle, right here:
John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
The Jesus Seminar and Q postulator's are BOGUS POSERS. In the former case of members, they voted with colored beads if they thought Jesus really said something, or not. Then proceeded to rewrite their own bible(s), as it suited them.
And we may also face the fact that the bulk of Gentile Christianity is founded on Paul's teachings and engagements, who, like all the other writers, sourced their information directly from OLD TESTAMENT SCRIPTURES and the history of Israel.
A matter that the Q source guesswork entirely ignores.
You can chase Q guesswork, but you may as well give up on understanding scriptures.
e97ef7 No.4441338
>>4441266
>>4438567
The New Testament is only understood best
by those already very deeply immersed in the OT.
And they get entirely different teachings out of it.
Teachings far beyond any even welcome in modern for-profit theology.
414c72 No.4441399
>>4441338
Yes. It is One Tanakh.
Yesua gave Torah
That confirms and fulfills the prophesies and teachings of God, who is the Word.
You cannot separate the Word, a book of prophesies, by adding and subtracting from it.
And, as it is written,
cursed is anyone who does.
4cb7f1 No.4441642
Help?
After 10:30 pm my time the night before last (dec 21) I got a seemingly random FaceTime call from these two little girls.. ?? I faced the camera away from me, but the main girl I saw just waited there til I said “I think you have the wrong number” and they said, “oh sorry! Bye”.
Weird or not?
Also found them on their Dad’s (??) twitter and he had a bunch of random videos of them up. No comments. Wtf?
I’m worried about this, as I wonder if these kids are okay. If it was some kind of targeted message. You know?
I prayed for them, ask you to as well.
Just lookin for another anon’s opinion.
b084ef No.4441666
>>4441129
>>4441266
>>4441338
OK SHILLS
The Q source merely represents the sayings of Jesus…
now what exactly do you have against that?
Ever heard of the red texts in the bible?
Ur manufactured outrage is absurd. Anyone who opposes the sayings of Jesus is a feeble minded fool. Congrats to u then!
6173fd No.4441698
>>4441666
I don't know why you keep claiming there is a Q source. The supposed Q source is unsubstantiated, hypothetical, recent postulation.
b084ef No.4441736
>>4441698
Sounds like how (((they))) describe Q anon… not surprised.
Now what do you have against the sayings of Jesus?
Why does bringing attention to the sayings of Jesus bother u shills so much?
Come on rabbi, make the pharisees proud and glow moar.
070dfa No.4441760
>>4438539
What a poster board of lies.
You claiming "shills went crazy"
True believers in the Lord are not shills!!!
Just because they post the truth about how fundamentally flawed your "theory" is.
Just read your own description of it.
It's like you wrote a high school paper.
It would do you a world of good to wake-up and see the Light.
6173fd No.4441768
>>4441736
I'd suggest you don't have any idea of what you are shilling.
070dfa No.4441778
>>4441736
Don't twist the truth of what you are claiming and proposing.
It is a false teaching
pure and simple
b084ef No.4441863
>>4441760
>>4441768
>>4441778
awwww… its so cute watching u shills freak out whenever the focus turns to the actual teachings and sayings of Jesus…
Yes, I’m a total shill for talking about the common sayings of Jesus. Cool story (((guys))).
Remind me why ur here?
U can start ur own rabbi phariseesfag bread.
070dfa No.4441891
>>4441666
"manufactured outrage"
That's a good one.
Go cry some more.
And look, your bread reverts to its true form. What is another source of lies that is at the center of your attention you inflict on others in your own ignorance while you cry some more, over and over?
You are a circle jerk.
Yes, that's you.
e97ef7 No.4441936
>>4441666
I don't have a dog in this fight.
My only point is many things Jesus said have two meanings,
and very few people have a grasp of how they mean the most to us today.
070dfa No.4441970
>>4441863
An Anon can play this game all day long.
That is your point, and soul purpose, is it not?
Where's your buddies?
Not on duty yet?
b084ef No.4441982
>>4441891
I’m not the one crying. I baked a bread that has triggered u shills and im loving it.
So fun to watch u guys scramble to malign the truth.
Jesus taught us that we can consume everything and shit out the waste. U should take that approach to the board. If u dont like that the focus is on the sayings of Jesus, then go bake ur own bread… oh wait, ur a shill so ur not interested in logic.
b084ef No.4442058
>>4441970
so u dont want to discuss the sayings of Jesus? ok. gotcha.
070dfa No.4442072
>>4441863
According to God, you are a dangerous false teacher to his childrenn, one who invents from his own imagination but says it's from the Lord.
This is an obvious observation that can easily be made simply by reading your claims.
A counterfeit, claiming he comes as a bringer of light "in the name of the Lord."
Believers, read the Scriptures on false teachings and you will know he is nothing but a twisted liar who comes to destroy, no matter how he sugarcoats his faggotry.
b084ef No.4442093
>>4441936
exactly anon. A message is encrypted in the parables and allegories spoken by Jesus. The have layered meanings and understandings.
Matthew 13:34-35 Jesus promises us that the mysteries of the universe can be understood thru his parables.
When one focuses on just the parables, a world of wisdom awaits them.
070dfa No.4442097
>>4442058
Circle jerk mastery. We have nothing in common and I will not be baited by your lies and manipulation.
b084ef No.4442137
>>4442097
seek help pal. ur desperation is very telling.
Jesus was a nice guy but his old man has a bit of an edge to him.
there’s a place for everyone.
070dfa No.4442149
>>4442093
Oh look. Your buddy showed up right on que. Or is that just another you shill?
Same shill tactic. Same bs. Different thread. Where's your other buddy?
Anons can play this game all day long.
Worker of darkness.
Are you in a basement?
070dfa No.4442184
>>4442137
No, the truth is, your desperation is telling. How many threads have you created for this nonsense?
b084ef No.4442185
>>4442149
whoa? what are u even protesting to???
best u divisionshills can do is this nonzenze?
yawn.
6173fd No.4442418
>>4441982
You baked a non-existing recently invented turd and expect it to be taken credibly.
414c72 No.4442433
>>4442093
If Jesus is the Word
John 1:1
Why would you think his parables and teachings are limited to such a small small gate determined by men?
If Jesus is the Word, from the beginning, why don't you value all of the Word the prophesies and teachings?
Why leave so much out?
Why do you limit the teachings of God and attempt to define God's teachings by your own understanding?
That is a false teaching.
You are a false teacher.
But it does show blatantly obnoxious arrogant stupid and full of lies what you say is.
That's the issue I as a believer have.
All of your lies that go against the Word.
There's no way for you to reconcile that, and your chart is worthless too, in Light of the Word. Do you understand that?
070dfa No.4442626
>>4441982
Actually, it's the exact same shit bread turd you already baked × how many times now?
And you're still claiming that it "triggers" shills, as if by saying that validates the shit bread turd and makes it magically delicious, and you a genius.
6173fd No.4442785
Unfortunately at these boards there is a pack of rabid anti-semites who tend to show their fangs from time to time. The thread starter (anti) Bread baker appears to be so inclined.
If he knew a whit about scriptures there would be no claims to Christian believers being "rabbi's."
Rabbi rabies is a bad bite.
Acts 23:6
But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.
It must irk the anti-Jew crowd to no end that the basis of Christianity is JEWISH.
Romans 3:
What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
Anti-semitism does not come from True Christians. I count the Roman catholics as part of the anti-Semite pack as well.
"Cum nimis absurdum was a papal bull issued by Pope Paul IV dated 14 July 1555. It takes its name from its first words:[1] "Since it is absurd and utterly inconvenient that the Jews, who through their own fault were condemned by God to eternal slavery…"
www. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cum_nimis_absurdum
Oh really? Eternal slavery?
Where did Hitler get his ideas from? Read the link. The Roman catholics mastered the art of condemning people to burn alive forever, and started with the Jews. But that condemnation wasn't enough for them. They had to go for the press of Jewish extinction.
The baker should come out of his anti-semite closet, in the interests of transparency.
6173fd No.4443035
The notion that scriptures came about from theoretical Q or even the Apostles is false.
Jesus and the Apostles taught from what?
SCRIPTURES.
What scriptures were they referencing?
THE OLD TESTAMENT to which they ALL referred.
John 5
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Matthew 21:42
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
Matthew 22:29
Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
Matthew 26:56
But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
Luke 24:27
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
Acts 17:2
And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
Acts 18:28
For he mightily convinced the Jews, and that publicly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.
All before a New Testament existed.
The opening of understanding scriptures was done by Jesus and the Apostles.
It hasn't stopped.
414c72 No.4443062
>>4442785
I agree with you, and get attacked for it all the time. I would go a step further saying that over the centuries "christianity" has emerged as its own replacement theology, embraced by its churches that took obvious steps to remove the jewisness that is at the core of the Word, even though Yeshua and all 12 disciples are Jewish, and God is a Hebrew God, and the Messianic teaching cannot stand without it's jewishness. They also butched, attacked and changed the day and meaning of Shabbat in spite of the fact Yeshua is the Lord of the Sabbath and as it is written, there remains a sabbath keeping for God's people.
So anti-semantism has been embedded and built on. Not to mention it even spilled over into translations. It has made jews hesitant to embrace the Messiah because they think they have to give up their jewishness, and it has given Christians an excuse to say they are a new religion.
The Tanakh was never intended to be two separate books is more proof. Yeshua gave Torah. He didn't come to start a new religion.
This Scripture illustrates it perfectly
Romans 11:11-31
But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root[b] of the olive tree, do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God's kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.
cb74fe No.4443123
>>4442184
This is the 5th biblefag bread. If u dont like whats discussed here, theres many other breads and chan pages u can go to… but u choose an off general biblefag thread on the Q reseArch board, of all places, to voice ur faggotness??? yeah, thats not what shills do at all.
come on guys. Ur embarassing urself. Cant we talk about Jesus in peace?
wtaf faggots?
oh wait, I’m using logic again and ur merely a shill.
I’ll stop casting pearls to swine.
414c72 No.4443206
>>4443062
Of course, whose hand is all over these things….
Satan's. The whole world will be deceived Satan. That one, and his satans. Hard at work.
Know your enemy
Know who you follow
And know where your knowledge comes from and how it got into your brain, and don't be frightened or hesitant to clean it out as need be.
Especially now that "church" histories are being scrutinized, see what Satan has been able to do.
Trust God only
and seek him in all ways.
cb74fe No.4443293
>>4442626
>>4442433
u faggot shills seriously gonna bickershill this entire bread too?
yawn.
what are u even barking at?
e97ef7 No.4443364
>>4442093
>>4442433
Jesus is the Word. That's my point. But it is a living word.
The parable Jesus gave of the three loaves speak to our time.
It is neither Moses, the prophets, nor the NT (the three breads) that now matter most.
The "letter of the law" mentality embracing all these only leads to death, in the long run.
This is what has Christians and the church locked away from the real truths that matter most right now.
The hidden "leaven" of each, which is one, now gives us a whole other loaf, but only for
the true student of Christ who is also adept in his knowledge of present realities.
These are vital to recognizing truth in the Word, and what we find then is also consistent
with many other things Jesus says, and in ways they have never been understood before.
And the anons we have on this board are far more inclined to the technical and honest nature
of these than they are to the now-obsolete preachings of the past.
414c72 No.4443719
>>4443364
If you read the Tanakh, like Yesua himself read his whole life, you would see the fullness of knowledge and all of the Scriptures he built those 3 parables on. There were 3 relevant in what you bring up, and many more relevant in the Old Testament adding to that teaching.
But you, in your own stubborness, or out of laziness, refuse to do that. Why do you suppose that Yeshua, and the 12, and Paul all quote and use Scriptures from the Tanakh in the teachings? Why?
Can you be that dense to call the Tanakh "obsolete teachings?" Do you even give a rat's ass about what Yeshua the Word said about the Word? The prophets and the Torah?
Many will perish due to lack of knowledge. That should be of importance to you.
Yes, your words speak as witness to that.
414c72 No.4443761
>>4443364
If you truly believe it's a living Word, why do you consider so much of it dead?
He is Alpha and Omega, not just Omega.
070dfa No.4443822
>>4443123
Maybe it's you that can't accept the discussion that follows your "qs" claims.
And why did you name it biblefags anyway, if you want to silence the believers who have a duty to call out false teachings? You can't jam shit into people's brains especially when the shit is ….such groundless shit bread so far from what God says is true knowledge.
So why are you so surprised?
What did you expect?
And why 5 threads?
When you say absolutely
nothing not said in the first one?
Even so, God uses you anyway
To spread his truth and expose
false teachings.
As annoying as you may be.
e97ef7 No.4443932
>>4443719
So, you are agreeing with me again, just like you did in the last thread.
But you misunderstood what I meant by obsolete teachings.
I was referring to what modern theology has composed out of all the sacred texts.
The point is once you arrive at what it all points to, where it all leads,
what matters most then is that which pertains to where you go from there,
rather than does the map that only got you where you are.
Those that keep you looking back then are only trying to keep you from going forward,
because they hate your success, or because they want to prevent others from noticing it.
cb74fe No.4444720
>>4443822
>>4443822
cool lecturefagging.
414c72 No.4444852
>>4443932
Well no. I would not say that we agree but I don't know you. As for me, I haven't had anything to do with religion(s) or modern theology for well over 50 years. Saw them as phoney as a very young child, but always loved God. God is Love. He will take you to the Lord personally. No one needs religion. It's an invention.
I don't read others' "books" on the subject, or any books except for God's and taking Hebrew. Why should I? They lie so much. I promote the lose your religion position. God hates religion. Look what it's done. Finally, God taught me how to read his Word his Way after I asked him to teach me about the Shabbat. So since around 2007, I started reading the Word as the One Word I AM that it is, from beginning to end over and over. Truly, an unbelievable blessing. So, I cannot truly identify with what I detect as a "looking back reject mentality" for the Tanakh as a Word based position, though I certainly see how it fosters arguments launched out of that belief.
If you're the one who always tries to argue over the law, while separating it from the Torah into chains, (which the Word does not do or promote) as something backwards or obsolete, then I will always stand on the Word and all the scriptures that say otherwise the Word teaches. Men's ways and doctrines don't sway me, and they push a lot of doctrines based on bs. Instant reject.
And I oppose the premise that there is such a thing as arriving at the "point"
when the point is to obtain knowledge, as much as God is willing to show us each according to our capibility and willingness to seek it. As it is written many times in the word, Knowledge comes by reading the Word of God. We should always be seeking it, and we never know enough to say we are at the "point" when we are really dumb stupid sheep! I admit that to God all the time, and he just keeps teaching me more because I pray and pray for him to teach me the secrets of the universe:)
Bringing opinions, theology, books and religious beliefs from men in to teach us, will only muddle our minds and lead us astray. The Word is alive but there is only one teacher, and One Way. One can trust the teachings from the Spirit of God. To look to other sources will only corrupt the truth we seek. I see that all the time because one of the greatest things the Word gives you is discernment.
Just saying.
e97ef7 No.4445084
>>4443932
Moses (or the Tanakh, or the Pentateuch) established certain wisdom of the ancients in an ordinal pattern of seven types, first appearing in Genesis 1. The understanding, even the accurate perception, of these seven "typologies" (or "objects," to use modern programming terms) has been hidden from man ever since. But they have always been so pervasive in nature and in the world they knew we would eventually discover what they are all about (at least when we became technologically advanced enough to do so).
So they also hid within that understanding a unique ability (keys) to apply them (once discovered) to ascertain many other messages they wanted to convey to man at that time (our time). And the time for that, which they estimated by predictions of calendars years would also be revealed and confirmed by the same keys, even as they are today.
The knowledge and understanding of these keys is referred to in Revelation as having the ability to "open," or to "unseal," a book (the sacred texts) and reveal these cryptic messages. And it has only been since the advent of "object oriented" computer programming language techniques (about 1990, when it went mainstream) that we have a real-life model for the kind of thinking it takes to perceive these things
(It is not welcome in modern theology however, because it does not accommodate the for-profit preaching business and it somewhat throws the preacher into world affairs far over his head).
We are now in that time, according to a great many Scriptural references, and we have the ability to decipher what the ancients (Moses and the prophets) want us to learn now.
But perceiving these things is a monumental task that also somewhat requires systematic erasure of many of the more established ways we all commonly have of thinking and perceiving communication. It was extremely brilliant minds that put all this together and who spent all their time learning these same manners of thought, and encoding the ancient writings to speak of them and again (in our time) through them.
But this was the nature of the first name God gave Moses. "The I am that I am," means "I exist to exist (again)." In other words, the ancients spent scripted and recorded the actions of God in the times of the patriarchs almost entirely (if not entirely) to record matters of such times AS WELL AS to speak to us through such stories and actions in a new way today.
In so doing, we also learn from them some of the things we need most to know for understanding history and modern world order today - meaning the God that was - is again, and the Word becomes a "Living Word."
e97ef7 No.4445838
>>4445084
Paul represents (prophesies, or appoints) this revolution of thought in Acts, when he was thrown out of the temple for his unusual interpretations of words and names. He was taking difference with the established religious PC of his time for bringing out the ancient thought BEHIND was was written in the sacred texts, to make it speak in a new paradigm.
Essentially, this is done by tracing terms to root meanings and making more timely connections from those to present world forces and activities that are the same archetypes of personhood or action as those to which the sacred writings originally referred.
This was the same thing again, as making the Word "live" again. But it seems this whole scenario was more prophetic of our time today than it actually was meaningful in that time then. He was prophesying for and to us today. And we can realize this simply by discovering how powerful this technique of interpretation is to us now.
It is done with the old stories of Scripture by recognizing them as allegory for similar stories that take place in the more immediate, or a much more enduring (some across periods of even centuries) or present time. Paul would also refer to this technique as "Epaphrus," which means (in the root) "to superimpose times, places or orders." He also later says this Epaphrus was/is a faithful witness to the church (which then meant the people, not the hierarchy we have these days).
After being thrown out by religious leaders, Paul would go right next door (to a room attached to the church, meaning it was literally, and by extension, figuratively, "on the same grounds, foundation -literature as the church").
There, he would create a whole different church and everything he did following that time would involve those he brought into what he was teaching there and from then on - and this would all be in complete separation from the former religious order.
All of this is happening again today, as there is no way to bring real and valid history or truth into modern churches, at least until it is adequately distilled and represented elsewhere. And anons (aside from filling certain other promise also found in Scripture) are one of several circles of fellowship that are making this happen, either directly or indirectly, today.
e97ef7 No.4446504
>>4445838
The list of meaningful messages and new thoughts generated by this new (although also ancient) thought and means of interpretation is based on one thing, mainly - that the forces of nature (which are seven) repeat across time.
Men (of providence) have always been "victims" of the changes that occur between these times (although they have also repeatedly brought us renewal of life). They have manifest across time as different "ages" since the time of Moses. Of these, we are only now in the middle them, at the fourth. But when we adequately learn these "laws" (0 because they pertain to much more than just time) we can instead come to have power over (and with) them. And the full end of that is that we become an eternal creation.
One of the stories of Jacob represented the struggle all his children (which is now the free world, essentially) would endure repeatedly between each such age - when he wrestled with "an angel of God" and won, at the river Jabbok. This is something that would repeat in different ways between each age, in the figurative sense.
The first of these struggles was under Moses when the children of Jacob contended with Pharaoh for their freedom.
The second time was after the Assyrian captivity, when the tribes mostly migrated to Europe in a quest for new freedom and new providence once again.
And the third time was when the Puritans migrated to the New World in search of religious freedom and new providence once more.
The times of each of these concurred remarkably with the "time, times and a half" prophecies, as well as with many other calender measures appearing in Scripture.
Each of these incidents were part of a new "age" of time for the people of Jacob. But the third age is also now past, and the present struggle (which has actually been going on for 20 years now) is again for freedom and new providence. But this time the struggle is more a taking of global authority than it is for just another piece of land.
e97ef7 No.4446756
>>4446504
For any yet unfamiliar with the study I am referring to, there's a bit more summary linked in the last post of the previous Biblefags thread.
The link to the doc is also there and here: https://cog49.com/ft.pdf
46e9f6 No.4446897
Let’s not get too distracted. I know that due to the dissociative programming we have all been subjected to, it’s hard to fully absorb that this is not a game, but this IS NOT A GAME.
In a moment of higher awareness, I plead with you all - and myself - and to the one true living God of the Bible in Jesus’ name, that we focus on the truth, the life, and the way that is Jesus. That we repent, and pray, because that (I believe) is the most important thing we can do now.
God, I thank you for everything, for bringing us here, for giving us hope in Jesus Christ. Lord forgive us for our parts in this world of evil and please shine your light on the darkness. Thank you Jesus for your sacrifice and love. Please guide us and the godly leaders of this world to do your will, Father. You are holy, holy, holy! Jesus thank you for your sacrifice! Thank you for your love, which you have bestowed on all of your children here. Give us Christlike courage so that we do not fear those who might have control over our bodily death, but who have no control over the death of our souls. Save us, God! We love you, God, in Jesus’ name forever and ever, Amen!
414c72 No.4446927
>>4445084
Interesting post. Have you any knowledge on the breastplate of the cohen gadol for judging and the urim and tumin put in the breastplate above Aharon's heart?
I've found scriptures, from Exodus when God told and taught them how to make the holy things, and also referenced through the times of Samuel, King Saul, Nehemiah and David, but no explanations, and then it just fades away. Around David's time, only the urim was mentioned. I have looked all over for information.
Also, the judgment for a woman accused of adultry by her husband. She was given some sort of bitter water to drink. If she was innocent, nothing would happen, if she was guilty, her stomach would swell and her private parts would shrivel up.
In Book of Enoch a fallen angel taught men about the bitter and the sweet. Bitter is mentioned throughout the Word. In Revelations when John eats the scroll that went down sweet but turned to bitterness in his stomach. Bitter wormwood is also mentioned. I thought the scroll may have something to do with sins written on it, because sin may seem sweet at first, but then it turns to bitterness. It leaves a bitter taste to it.
These things seem to be related to heavenly knowledge and items of substance, hidden or removed from our understanding.
Do you have anything to share?
Anyone?
Q mentioning the guardian of knowledge also sparked an interest. Exactly what knowledge is he referring to?
e4d29a No.4446946
>>4446843 (lb)
Awesome, nice to have you back.
You were not kidding about that video…I just kept shaking my head at all the connections to what we've been researching for over a year. But as I said this morning, a lot of people-even anons-are going to reject it immediately.
Did you see the first 3 or 4 replies to my first post? I was getting super heavy flak just for mentioning it…I think it's huge. Later I'm going to watch the entire series of that interview.
e4d29a No.4446980
POTUS, are you lurking? kek
e4d29a No.4447018
>>4446927
>Q mentioning the guardian of knowledge also sparked an interest. Exactly what knowledge is he referring to?
Probably the esoteric kind…the information that the 'elites' have and keep to themselves. Though I believe the 'Guardians' reference goes much deeper than meets the eye.
414c72 No.4447088
>>4446897
By all means, repent and pray.
God is always in charge and if he sends anyone here to gather even one of his children, have faith they are found.
His Spirit is the power.
But sharing the greatness of God is no distraction. Is it?
414c72 No.4447200
>>4447018
I didn't take it to mean splitting the apple, he was talking about the whole apple.
Who's guarding it that it needs to be guarded?
414c72 No.4447689
>>4446504
Sorry, the problem I have with your "study" is it leaves out many many "keys." The data of events is sorely lacking and without the data, how can you rely on the results? It's another control study by man to explain God's events in a way to line up the desired end report, all as it misleads those who listen to it. If you read the Bible you would know how lacking it is.
There was no migration, they were taken i to captivity. A remnant. The whole event, as well as their Babylonian captivity, and all events were foretold by God. Including right now. God always tells us through his prophets what's going to happen in advance. Enoch told about it. Moses on multiple occasions told about the disaster in the "acharit-hayamin, because you will do what Adonai sees as evil and provoke him by your deeds." Then he told them exactly what would happen because of that and gave a blessing and a curse and instructions for Joshua to put men on Mt. G'rizim for the blessing and Mt. 'Eival for the curse after they crossed the Jordan. God's children have been "flown on the wings of eagles" to escape the dragon, that old serpent Satan. Hidden in mountain. All along, God saves. Yeshua too, when he was a toddler in Egypt, and John and the Lord himself in Revelations. God works inequity when sin gets full, then he gathers his children when they repent and return to him.
There will be a great Day.
Your "data" is thin and electronic.
43551c No.4450960
>>4441319
>Today's political/military Q may turn out to be the real deal "in those arena's." Time will tell all tales on this Q's count.
Q+ is a child-killing, serial adulterer (Jn 8:36, Ex 20:14). He has not humbled himself before the Lord (Acts 2:37, 38).
43551c No.4451021
>>4441666
>OK SHILLS
>The Q source merely represents the sayings of Jesus…
All scripture is inspired (2 Tim. 3:16).
43551c No.4451104
>>4442418
>You baked a non-existing recently invented turd and expect it to be taken credibly.
Ga 5:9
43551c No.4451140
>>4443364
>The hidden "leaven"
All false teaching (Ga 5:9).
Christians are so rare (Mt 7:13-14), all comments are to go in this thread.
636b99 No.4451467
>>4024872
If you suppose that scriptures were lost (like Thomas or Q) you will find excuses to believe it.
If you presume that nothing was lost, yuo can actually learn something about the hermeneutic they used to read the OT. Jesus had obviously taught them to read the scriptures in a way that was unfamiliar to them. He had to point out in scripture where it said he has to die and be resurrected,
So Mark was written first as a collection of the teaching of Peter. At that time they understood the historical happenings and looked for literal prophesies for them. He began the events with the preaching of John.
Matthew wrote 10-15 years later and reflects what they had learned during that time. H uses new tool to interpret the OT and pushes the start of events to Abraham.
Luke wrote 10-15 years later and includes additional learning from the OT in how Jesus fulfilled scripture. He was able to push the beginning back to Adam.
John, writing 10-15 years later, was most proficient in reading scripture and pushed the beginning of events to Genesis 1:1. (and even before).
They were taught how to read scripture by Jesus who said the keys to the kingdom (teaching) were the pictures of the cross in the OT. Find them and you find the center of the teaching of all the scriptures.
Paul understood the mystery which was hidden from the beginning, but chose to preach only Christ and him crucified to the Greek church. They did not learn how to read the OT the way that Mark, Matthew, Luke, John, Peter, James, and Paul did.
Today, modern Greek theologians (descended through Catholic and Protestant lines) still cannot read teh OT the way the NT authors did. Some go so far as to say the NT authors would fail their Bible classes for misappropriating scripture. (search sensus plenior NT author use of OT scriptures for discussions).
It is the differences between the gospels which reveals the hermeneutic of the NT authors. The added amterial reveals the methods of interpretation that they used as they became more proficient in its use.
The Greek churches presume that the NT authors got magic knowledge, when the authors themselves focused on studying and teaching.
One need not be a mystic, prophet, nor apostle to read the hidden mystery of Christ. They are hidden in childish riddle.
Follow these guides:
1. It all speaks of Christ. Not nations, not fortunetelling, not endless numeric patterns which have no meaning.
2. when something is a metaphor it is always a metaphor and is always the same.
3. Outside sources are not required. Don't make historians into apostles.
4. A hidden doctrine is revealed by a plain doctrine. They are in agreement.
5. The square text is the original language of the Hebrews. Why would they write their most sacred texts in the language of their enemies? That's as stoopid as saying the Mormon American Indians wrote in reformed Egyptian.
6. Hebrew Letters derive their meaning from the strokes, they combine to form the meaning of the words. Adam came from the ground (Adamah) and is made of the blood (dam) and spirit (A - Aleph)
7. there are 28 letters, not 22. And each consonant has an attached vowel. it is not vowel-less.
And for the Rabbis: When you see the white stone (Holy ab-ben), say 'water-water' (He is the living Torah in heaven and earth). You will see Christ everywhere.
Seek and you shall find.
636b99 No.4451691
>>4446504
Jesus said it all spoke of him. To have any other center for interpretation misses the point.
636b99 No.4451798
>>4446927
The mysteries hidden in the OT all concern the cross. It was sweet and bitter, it was a great day and a dreadful day, it was the Tree of Life and the Tree of Death where men learned to declare good and evil for themselves, making themselves to be gods and enemies of God.
Jesus was righteous on the cross yet was made to be sin. The hints you see are fulfilled when you chase them to the cross.
The woman is the church… though guilty as the prostitute by being an enemy of God, there is no report of a woman's stomach swelling as a result of the test.
She was always seen as pure in the eyes of her husband.
Same with the church. though we are sinners, Christ has made us Holy.
It wasn't a magic trick, but a dinner theater of how God treats his people. In Christ there is not condemnation. (even though we ARE guilty).
If the test was ever applied to a guilty woman, it was an act of forgiveness. It gave her a new start with her husband.
636b99 No.4451918
>>4443035
Bingo… Notable.
The church did not give us scripture. The NT is the interpretation of the Old Testament in light of Christ and the cross. It was written byor on behalf of faithful servants who were eye-witnesses.
414c72 No.4453151
>>4451798
Due to you not knowing the scriptures, no surprise your response sounds like generic babbling.
Yes this way of determining God's judgment and how his people would proceed in matters was sought and used, including war, and determing if there was guilt in women accused of adultry using a drink was written.
Moses most always consulted God but we are shown his mistake too, when he wasn't allowed to cross the Jordan.
Joshua mostly consulted God but we know his mistakes too like when he cut a deal with enemy of God neighbors pretending to be from far away.
David most always consulted God, and we know his one mistake too. And there are many examples of mistakes made when God's children do not consult him. The same mistake made today by many.
The Word is full of God's precepts so we know to stay on his path and not veer to the right or left.
When you go with generic popular understanding you miss much of his counseling or blow it off like it doesn't matter. This is truly why sheep are so stupid and targets for wolves.
414c72 No.4453165
>>4451918
The NOTABLE part is how void of God's knowledge and word you are.
Good job.
e97ef7 No.4453893
>>4451140
Exactly.
Many, many seek.
Very, very few find.
The end is not for everybody.
e97ef7 No.4453958
>>4451140
The leaven Jesus appointed us (in the three loaves parable) will indeed leaven the whole lump.
43551c No.4455217
>>4453958
>The leaven Jesus appointed…
A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump [Gal. 5:9].
"In Scripture, both Old and New Testaments, leaven is always used as a principle of evil. In Matthew 13:33, when the woman hid leaven in three measures of meal, the leaven was not the gospel. It may be the kind of a “gospel” that is passing around today as legal tender, but it is still evil. In fact, Paul says that it is no gospel at all. The Lord Jesus warned His disciples of the leaven of the Pharisees (see Matt. 16:6). I think we need to be warned today of the leaven of legalism. It is an awful thing. Legalism says that when Christ died on the cross for you and me over nineteen hundred years ago, He did not give us a full package of salvation, but that I have to go through a ritual of baptism or seek something else from the Holy Spirit to get the rest of it. My friend, I received it all when I accepted Christ. Now I may have experiences after I am saved, but that does not add to my salvation. Christ is the One who wrought out our salvation. The Lord Jesus said that the woman would take the leaven and hide it in three measures of meal, symbolic of the gospel. In other words, leaven has been hidden in the gospel—and that makes it palatable to the natural man.
I was brought up in the South, and I never knew there was any kind of biscuits but hot biscuits. My mother used to bake them every day. Even yet I can see those biscuits in the dough stage, rising on the back of the stove. When they reached a certain height, she stuck them in the oven. They had leaven in them. When the biscuits were done, I would put butter and honey on them. There was nothing better! That is still my favorite dessert. There is a lot of leaven being put in the gospel today to make it more palatable. Natural man likes the leavened bread. It tastes good. However, we are warned not to do that." McGee, J. V. (1997). Thru the Bible commentary (electronic ed., Vol. 5, pp. 185–186). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
e97ef7 No.4455395
>>4455217
Your first sentence is incorrect.
I stopped reading there.
Lev 7: 13 Besides the cakes, he shall offer for his offering leavened bread with the sacrifice of thanksgiving of his peace offerings
e97ef7 No.4455447
>>4455217
The concept of "multiplication" leaven has on bread is also represented by the feedings of the thousands Jesus did Himself.
You've now taken one step forward and three steps back.
6173fd No.4455658
>>4451918
Brilliant deduction! Not hard to pick up from the scriptures, if they are read.
6173fd No.4455888
>>4455217
I generally agree with your assessment of leaven, as not necessarily good, but there are exceptions, here for example:
Matthew 13:33
Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.
Because this is "parable" we have to use Jesus' dissection tool to understand this (and all other) parable.
In Mark 4:3-4 Jesus delivers a parable.
In Mark 4:15 Jesus provides the "dissection tool" to understand (all) the parable and this applies also to the parable in Matt. 13:33 as well, above.
In Mark 4:15 there are 3, count 'em, THREE parties involved with every parable. The parties are God (His Word), mankind and Satan, the devil.
There are the 3 measures of the woman also.
In accordance with many of the archetypes in scripture, this basic 3 principle is played out many times in many ways. The 3 temples of the Old Testament, the 3 temples of the N.T. and the 3 Babylon's are some of my favs. All of these are "linked" to the same 3 party principle Jesus gave us in Mark 4:15.
In order for man to live by EVERY WORD of God, Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4, the scriptures, by necessity, move in the directions of allegory, parable and similitude's, which also revolve around the same 3 parties, God's Word, man and Satan (and his family, which includes devils, children of the wicked one, sons of Belial, thorns, thistles, briars, wicked spiritual Jezebel and the Whore of Babylon from Rev., to name a few.)
If anyone has dissections of allegories or parables or similitude's without these 3 parties present, they are void and partial understandings.
An immense amount of parable is used in the Old Testament to describe Satan for example, as a leviathan, a dragon, a serpent, a viper, Pharaoh, etc. The engagements of Pharaoh (yes, all literal, but) still allegorical=parable to Satan and his various actions/antics.
Even Ishmael is used as an allegory of Satan.
Genesis 16:12
And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
Ishmael is a picture of the flesh or natural man, blinded in mind by the "god of this world" exactly as Mark 4:15 describes, and generally delineated to ALL the blinded by Satan masses by Paul in other places such as Acts 26:18, Romans 11:8, 2 Cor. 3:14, 2 Cor. 4:4 and Eph. 2:2.
That's how Paul deployed Ishmael in Gal. 4:29, and it's personal to EVERY PERSON. Both the statements from the O.T. and the N.T.
So, yeah, the Kingdom of Heaven is very much like 3 parts of LEAVEN.
God's Living Word saves mankind and riles up, resists, condemns, judges and eventually destroys Satan and his family.
Do we really think Jesus is coming back to kill human babies?
Revelation 2:23
And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
Since the works of Satan are also upon us all, in the flesh and mind via at a minimum, evil thoughts which DEFILE us, and sin being "of the devil" our technically relationship with God is NOT A ONE WAY STREET OF LOVE ONLY.
There is reason to fear and tremble before our Maker, because it's not "just individuals" that God deals with when dealing with mankind. God's also dealing with the unseen adversaries upon us all.
Happy Halloween! Er, uh, I mean, Merry Xmas!
176910 No.4456690
so you eat fish every friday?
you, the billions of so called christians eat fish every friday?
poor oceans ! poor life ! poor christ watching what you do !
and you, the so called muslims wanna impose your unnatural insane religion on the world? poor world, poor life !
buddhistic " karma "?= loss of spiritual energy in a non perfect world… poor victims of the karma progamming lie
alternative sects and cults taking all your money??..poor you
do you think humanity has thousands of years time to wake up?
43551c No.4457234
>>4455395
>Your first sentence is incorrect.
Not my words. Take it up with the apostle Paul (Eph 4:14).
79d6bf No.4457952
God Freaks - Answer me this…
I do 100% in God, whatever it means in my head, is not always the same as yours. The concept is the same and I live by the good book… But…
Who granted you powers to speak on behalf of God? Didn't God not ask humans to speak for him, or defend him?
Who and when did God give you the authority to Preach on behalf of him? Can you please provide evidence by God, so we know you are not misdirecting us, under the cloak of God himself? You know, the Devil knows each word in the bible and "twists" its meaning so you follow false prophets under the impression its God himself?
Anyone who preachs Bible is Pure Evil - until you physically prove God granted you exclusively his powers on earth, to speak for him. No human in our history was given such power, yet the brainwashed lost sheeple follow empty meaningless words, so anyone who preaches do so as the Devil, and the masses see it.
So, if you follow the good book, tell me know many people you opened your doors to, and took under your roof to protect them? So how many illegals did you allow into your homes and provide comfort too? You know, thats in the bible right, or do you faithful ones pick n choose which you follow. That is against the bible now isn't it?
How many babies did each of you preachers adopt? Again, if you followed the good book, you would all have many children that have no parents and you would be obligated to raise as your own. Imagine that. If all you claim to save the children, how many of you actually adopted children? None to a few only? Wouldn't that solve the #1 issue at hand?
So anyone who does not take in illegals, or adopt children, are not following the Bible as stated…. But then again, preachers are the Devil, and want you all to follow their life plan, not the one God planned for you… See how easily Preachers and bible worshipers are pure evil - and using the Bible to change you to their evil plan?
Can anyone tell me 1 human that God gave his powers to judge others lives, and change their lives to follow them? None right? And if you only "select" what you want to do, again, this is Evil at play and not what Gods good books says…
So who really are the Saints and who are the Real Sinners?
43551c No.4458336
>>4457952
>Who granted you powers to speak on behalf of God?
Acts 3:21, 24
Translation: I will not repent (Acts 2:37, 38).
Maybe next year–if you get a next year (Lk 12:20).
6173fd No.4458392
>>4457952
"I do 100% in God."
Good for u.
43551c No.4458393
>>4456690
>the billions of so called christians eat fish every friday?
Don't confuse Christians (Ro 8:14) with CathOlics (Jud 11).
See:
https://www.proclaimingthegospel.org/default.asp?sec_id=180014816
79d6bf No.4459196
>>4458336
Who to Repent to? You?
You are the devil and your actions to change ones "Gods Planned Life" is between God and the person. Yet anyone trying to change Gods plan for that person does so WITH EVIL DEVIL INTENT!
Prove that God authorized you to speak for him. He never asked anyone to speak or defend him, yet you, acting as the Devil, took evil upon your own hands, in your own good will, to try and change proves you are the Devil, using lies and deception to decive the week to follow your devilish evil plan for satan.
Your quote does NOT grant you Gods will to speak for him. Never in print did God ask anyone to defend him, but you CHOSEN to do so upon yourself, to fool the weak minded. Sure you gather a army, but it is for EVIL - not under God himself.
Even people who reference Trump as being appointed by God, but I see no name of him - do you? Why isn't it me because I feel that 100% of those sayings were directed to ME as well. But then again, every human can be inserted and be the one…
Oh how the weak fall for following false prophets online, with no evidence. OK - so God granted you his Godly powers to change my and Gods secret life plan, so isn't that PURE EVIL and THE DEVIL SATANs approach?
Throw me the specific Quote where God gave any human the power to speak for him and defend him. God never did and lets his words speak for him - not for a Satanist Evil to interpret his words to fit your evil agenda…. Again What words did God give you? Their isn't any now is there? Only the true faithful know this, and only the lost uneducated sheeple in life you can deceive follow you and change their lifes plan….
So if a human comes in a rapes your children and wife to death, does that mean they are evil, or could they be following Gods word, as you did not follow God's words and Laws by not taking in dozens of homeless and illegals into your home as your penance? You see, its up to the person…
And yes, Gods law I follow - only I do not fall for fake liars online, who preach, as you only use empty words to decieve, as the Devil evil ones does. How do I tell you are for good or evil, when the Devil knows the bible just as much as God himself?
b084ef No.4460835
Merry Christmas biblefags. I know its a pagen holiday and culture has nearly completely removed Jesus’ story but for we, who honor God, know what this day means to us.
b084ef No.4460904
>>4443035
Just because the verses you referenced talk about the OT and scriptures of Moses, doesn’t mean that Jesus didnt have many unique parables, allegories, and teachings of his own.
Call them Q source, call them red texts in the Gospels, call it whatever tf u want… it more or less refers to the particular sayings of Jesus. For example, the story of the prodigal son/sun,… show me what verse in the OT that came from?
There are hundreds of Jesus’ sayings and you would be wise to pay special attention to them in particular.
No need to venture off the beaten path and one can remain in the canonized bible if u think constantine had ur best interests in mind when he threw out many books from the sects that were closest to Jesus’ and his disciples’ teachings… lucky for the gullible like you, there are more than enough powerful parables/allegories/sayings/stories in Matthew Mark Luke and John for one to get the jist of the “Source”.
6173fd No.4462694
>>4460904
Of course Jesus had what we might see as "enhanced" parables i.e. parables, with meaning that is understood.
Prior to the disclosures of Grace and Truth, it was not so boldly stated for example, that all parables are broken down and understood (Mark 4:13) by a single parable, identifying the parties involved with every parable (Mark 4:15), God, mankind and the devil(s). In retrospect, this understanding is "inferred" from the beginning of the scriptures, but it's masked or hidden.
There is no Q source as it's postulated. God's Word came through the natural body of Israel, the called out, the wanderer's, the chosen, the elect.
Jesus wrote the scriptures prior to His Own Incarnation.
I don't disagree about the selection/elimination of texts by other parties. The words of "any person," past or present, written or oral, can be parsed by Jesus' Understandings, to perceive both good and evil, accuracy-truth and lies-hypocrisy.
Keep in mind I believe all people are saved, and all devils, doomed and damned.
In the Ways of Christ, these two parties are presently overlapped within the ALL, including me and you and everyone else at this board.
A party earlier ranted about what good is it to declare these Words of His, and not focus to do only physical good and screw the rest of the stuff.
Christians are essentially driven to realize the Eternal Perfection of God in Christ. Some may think it Quixotic and a waste of time.
Christians are promised an end to dishonor, weakness, corruption, sin, evil, the devil and his messengers, and eventually even the power of death.
We are not called without purpose.
Everything has meaning. Everything has purpose, one way or another.
1 Corinthians 15:24
Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations;
and then shall the end come.
In case you forgot already, for the end of what, see above.
The Gospel is NOT just declared to mankind mankind only.
There is a kingdom unseen that is also involved and addressed in the Gospel. And it is the Word's of God that make that kingdom aroused, empowered and revealed, prior to THEIR DESTRUCTION.
The Word is a Two Edged Sword. His Tongue of FIRE. And, contrary to every blinded person, it does work also in TWO WAYS.
There is no legitmate cause of offense to any man with God's Words. They are all meant for our LIFE.
And likewise, there is no cause of offense to be against evil, sin and death, even though we all walk this present life with these also in and on our (left) hand.
43551c No.4462717
>>4459196
> Who to Repent to?
Your creator. You are responsible to him. Jn 1:1-3
> You are the devil…
You’re projecting again (Eph 4:14).
070dfa No.4463580
>>4457952
>>4458336
>>4459196
It's called lip service. The modern church is a "class" of lip service. And many graduates they have churned out— vomit in the name of the Lord.
God does authorize chosen men (his prophets) to speak for him, Words by the Spirit, but not liars that twist his Word, lead his children astray and teach false teachings.
>>4455217
Legalism. It's one of the fundamental teachings of men to twist God's Word and separate God's people from God and his Way, and they are so proud and arrogant and indoctrinated they don't even know it.
They do damage to the Torah and ignore God at the same time.
We do not live under man's doctrine of ilegalism
We live by every Word from the mouth of God. They don't get that.
43551c No.4463618
>>4463580
> The modern church is a "class" of lip service.
Have you ever met a Christian? Eph 4:14. They walk the walk (Ro 8:14).
43551c No.4463647
>>4463580
> Legalism. It's one of the fundamental teachings of men to twist God's Word…
Our law is higher not lower (Mt 22:37-40).
070dfa No.4463727
>>4451918
>>4455658
It's not "an interpretation" it's Torah, it's fulfillment of prophecies. It's the Word, and the Word is One. Our Lord was in the beginning and told the beginning in the end. The Lord told it, not the 'church." The church is corrupt to this very day. So says the Lord. Revelations certainly sums it up nicely.
Trust only God.
He is the only just one.
Not you lost people who don't know the scriptures who were taught in the corrupt churches to cherry pick verses to support doctrines made up by men using their own imaginations and their own understandings then they teach it as their "interpretation" of God, even defining God within those lies.
Why else do we celebrate the birth of their pagan sun-god ad "Christmas?"
And again, most of the world is too stupid and far gone indoctrinated to even notice.
43551c No.4463822
>>4463727
>The church is corrupt…
Mt 16:18
070dfa No.4463843
>>4463647
No where in the scripture you cite does it say "our law is higher not lower."
That is a bold face lie and false teaching.
It does say in Matthew 22:40, in summation of the scripture you cited that:
"All of the Torah and the Prophets are dependent on these two mitzvot."
Further, Yeshua says himself that did not come to abolish the Torah or remove one yud in the Torah, the Prophets or the teachings.And He certainly did not come to start a new "religion."
Deal with that stumbling block.
Oh, but wait, that means you would have to actually unplug from your .com sources of false teachers and false prophets and read the Scriptures for yourself, without cherry picking them into your brain.
43551c No.4463916
>>4463843
>No where in the scripture you cite does it say "our law is higher not lower…
Translation: I want to be my own god—which leaves you with a fool for a deity (Ps 53:1). You will soon find out that you are not your own god (Re 21:8).
070dfa No.4463980
>>4463822
Matthew 16:22 does not address church corruption so what is your point? Just to cite scriptures without the scripture for what? Fresh off your .com search for "bread?" Is that your contribution here, because that's what it looks like.
And speaking of bread teachings, you people left out at least 100 relevant scriptures, so your " man teaching" has many holes in it… as usual.
Verse upon verse is the only WAY.
Start from the beginning, like God says.
Then you won't have holes.
070dfa No.4464026
>>4463916
Ok, I see. Now your trollness and emptiness is made clear.
Operating out of a basement, right?
Shill, and a really dumb one at that.
070dfa No.4464096
>>4463916
That's really really funny
Dumb shillbot. Paid by the post?
Or just a God hater?
You war against God's own Word.
Worthless and powerless you are.
Done with you
IDIOT SHILL
43551c No.4464174
>>4463727
>Revelations
Read it before you debate it (Eph 4:14). It’s Revelation not Revelations.
43551c No.4464217
>>4464026
>your trollness
We say repent (Acts 2:37, 38). Live holy (1 Pe 1:16). You say do not repent. Live like a pig. Rev. 21:8
“I prefer clarity to agreement.” ~ Dennis Prager
43551c No.4464249
>>4464096
>Dumb shillbot. Paid by the post?
That’s right. I’m Mossad, hide my Jew gold and all of your problems are my fault. Ge 12:3
070dfa No.4464254
>>4464217
Fuck you troll.
That's how you troll
Making up shit
I never said "do not repent"
You are a shitposter
Go back to your God
.com and see where that gets you in the end.
Dennis Prager…
How much you pay for him?
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
43551c No.4464293
>>4464254
>Fuck you troll…I never said "do not repent"…
Get right on it (Eph 4:14). Start with your mouth (Jas 3:10).
070dfa No.4464342
>>4464293
Whatever you say shill liar
God hater
Leaving you to your own
destuction
43551c No.4464426
>>4464342
>…God hater
You’re projecting again (Eph 4:14). Jn 14:15
6173fd No.4464942
>>4463727
I'm sure you are justified and saved by clock watching for the official start of Satur(n)day, on Friday, precisely at 6pm, Jerusalem time.
yawn
070dfa No.4465056
>>4464942
Oh look, another one crawled out from under a rock.
Shillbot favorite words:
>yawn
>you're projecting again
>yawn
>you're projecting again
>yawn
>yawn
>you're projecting again
Go back to your bot spot coordinator.
Your program is getting
old and tiresome
and so so so predictable.
43551c No.4465106
>>4465056
> Oh look, another one crawled out from under a rock… Shillbot… Go back to your bot spot coordinator…
You’re projecting again (Eph 4:14, Ro 1:25).
43551c No.4465210
Midnight Cry Will Reveal the Wise & the Foolish Rapture at Twilight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvt7yaqgczU
b084ef No.4465242
>>4462717
>>4464026
>>4464096
>>4464249
>>4464342
>>4465056
>>4465106
u tag team mossad sclHOMO tagteam shills are annoying af. Take ur bickershilling elsewhere.
>>4462694
so many words… so little meaning.
43551c No.4465276
>>4465242
> u tag team mossad…Take ur bickershilling elsewhere.
Take your anti-Antisemitism elsewhere. Rom. 2:28, 29
070dfa No.4465567
>>4465242
>>4465276
>>4465106
>>4464942
>>4464217
Use this on them.
They hate it.
It bunches up their panties.
See them all bunched up?
SO FUNNY
SPOT the parasites
Bought bots
070dfa No.4465585
This is the HEAD guy.
That they report to for
Instruction and Direction.
He's really really stupid
as you can guess.
070dfa No.4465616
And one last tidbit of information
In case you haven't noticed
Besides hating God,
The Word,
And believers in the Lord,
The hate this guy
He drives them
Batshit crazy
And explodes their bot programs.
SO FUNNY TO WATCH
43551c No.4465687
>>4465616
>Besides hating God…The [sic] hate this guy [Trump].
Christians pray for Trump (1 Ti 2:1-2). Maybe he will repent (Acts 2:37, 38).
“There’s always hope. There’s just no chance.” ~ Dennis Prager Heb 13:4
070dfa No.4466058
>>4465687
Oh right.
What a liar you are 43551c.
>>4450960
Then why did you post this?
Id 43551c
Your shill/bot tactics are tracked
And the object of study
Setting the record straight.
This whole thread is a shit thread
Mostly non-believers
Trump haters
And
Paid shills
Look at the posts
43551c No.4466078
>>4466058
>Your shill/bot tactics are tracked…And the object of study…
I encourage it (Ac 20:20).
070dfa No.4466097
>>4466078
You encourage nothing
Liar shill bot.
Nothing.
43551c No.4466131
>>4466097
Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23).
070dfa No.4466174
>>4466078
Satan knows the Bible well.
Just because you post scriptures
(Without the Scripture)
And Reeee rants
Doesn't make you a saved believer.
You are a verified liar
Like your buddies on here
Worthless socialists
Soros bots
You can't post a meme
For a reason
shill
56fac0 No.4466399
>>4465687
>>4465616
What is it about this bread that brings you shills out? You won’t even allow anons to discuss Jesus without ur nonsense sullying up the bread?
lecturefagging, bickershilling, and attax on Trump… all are very fucking lame. Wish u glowing faggots would uze some creativity with ur shilling… ah well.
070dfa No.4466454
>>4465902
Hypocrisy is your
Specialty and what you
Judge others with
As you send them to
.com for "knowledge."
That's what you prefer, right?
=====
The 4th Commandment,
the only one that starts with
"Remember the Shabbat and keep it holy…"
=============
43551c No.4466465
>>4466454
>Hypocrisy is your Specialty
You’re projecting again (Eph 4:14).
Matt. 23:5–7
070dfa No.4466614
>>4466399
That is 95%, no make that
98% of this bread.
Including the "anons" who force "discussion" (joke joke) only if it's within the "source" they push (correction, pushed in 5 breads with absolutely the same results). No wonder the stink of the fodder attracts the shills.
Reeeeeees away on that
True believers are sick of hearing how anons, in harmony with shills, rant and reeeeee to override the Word of God as the true and only one source or just to shitpost shit against God, Potus to fuck with believers.
Know the enemy.
070dfa No.4466642
>>4466465
Here's one now.
So proudly they hail.
43551c No.4466905
As the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away (Mt 24:37–39).
af6876 No.4466960
So, if you noticed a LOT MORE SHILLING HERE lately, it's b/c they're trying to push this board https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4036022.html down the list.
b/c don't go look & post there. Only BAD people look & post there there…
070dfa No.4467706
>>4466960
>"lately?"
Try lately, all the time, the same as on the past identical shill breads.
Pay attention. A shill, a bot, or their group, will post a provocative or false or bait worthy shit post that triggers responses, and round and round it goes.
Sin judgement condemnation with qs thrown in for good measure, that's what these breads were created for. Anyone posts different, it's attack mode as they go to town on the posters.
It's nothing new. Yeah, I've heard don't feed the shills, but this has to do with GOD'S WORD, his PLAN for us, thus the record will be set straight. And shill sniping is one method.
This is a shit thread, not a pill. Don't delude yourself.
It's not like qsource pushed here is a pill. That is an absurd ridiculous statement.
It's a false teaching where when investigated, goes against GOD 'S WORD, who is Yeshua.
That's another sign of lack of knowledge, actually thinking the name "Jesus" is related in anyway to the name YESHUA. God never called him that meaningless name.
Lost meaning lost knowledge.
Wonder why, research that.
Fraud biblefags.
Ooooo, you made me set the record straight, again.
43551c No.4467874
>>4467706
>Sin judgement condemnation…
He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God (Jn 3:18).
070dfa No.4467907
>>4467874
Thank you little ape mimicker boy.
What would we all do without your
2 shekels and vast knowledge?
e97ef7 No.4468280
>>4466905
Yes, and Noah spent 120 years building the ark.
Ironically, we now have a perfect 120 most recent years that preceded our present "voyage," or movement - during which a massive "construction" of many elements of truth have become fastened together by certain sacred principles and truth. And it will all endure the coming STORM, and prevail afterward.
Similar to how Noah, in his time, took a "remnant" of all life aboard the ark for preservation, and for retaking dominion after the flood, this recent 120 years has also "gathered a remnant" - one of many guardians of truth - that are now set to prevail in the future and to repopulate throughout all the world of common thought hereafter.
There was divine purpose for this. It is mainly because most people cannot handle truth.
To solve that problem, in 1897 (the 120 being from then to 2017) there was a very profound division made in theology, which Jesus referred to as two paths, one being a broad and well-traveled road, and the other being a very difficult and very little known path.
The broad road (which leads to death) is essentially common, commercial theology. It has served the divine purpose of expanding the church and keeping it viable among those who cannot handle truth. But in the end, it would be people that "traveled" the other road of theology (a very little known path that leads to life) that would prevail with the whole truth to make things right for all.
The little known path now has both a political element and a religious element. This board is an example, if not the chief example, of the political aspect. The religious aspect is best described in the same doc that revealed this movement in Scripture (by several key analogies) and goes into detail about this 120 years (on pg 80) as well as a great deal else that pertains to it all. It is found here: https://cog49.com/ft.pdf
070dfa No.4468348
>>4467874
This is who God,
the God of Freedom,
appointed as our leader.
Thank you God
Thank you God
Thank you God
Thank you God
Thank you God
Thank you God
Thank you God
T h a n k y o u G o d!!!!!!!!
Give thanks to God always!
Trust God only.
6173fd No.4468456
>>4465056
You're trying too hard to be a bad caricature of a messianic Jew
e97ef7 No.4468523
>>4468416
Since you seem to like the rainbow over you, do you know what it represents in Scripture?
It represents the one most iterated promise of God. It is repeated seven time in Genesis.
It pertains to "seeing" and perceiving the seven colors of light, which represent the seven forces of nature that drive the life of all living things.
That is the main subject of this (above) study.
070dfa No.4468649
>>4468456
Whatever you say.
But I think you need glasses and to learn how to read.
>>4468523
Believe me the rainbow in this meme has nothing to do with the promise of God.
It represents your darkness.
e97ef7 No.4468821
>>4468681
Yes, and we are of that generation Jesus taught about with the name, son of man.
It is those of the time that comes after the appointed time of man, which was the six days (representing 6000 years) of creation (4004 BC Adam to 1997 AD).
After this, as Ezekiel appoints, are 40 years "for Judah." This movement started exactly half way into this period (as the latest chapter in a bigger 20 story).
>>4468561
The time "for Judah" is when the "spirit of David" comes once again to bear on the politics of the world. And all who fight for truth in such time are of that same spirit, which is that of the Lord.
070dfa No.4468986
>>4468821
Oh, and now you're playing off each other.
Posting scriptures
With a false prophet chaser,
But, still not God
One Sword
One WORD
TRUST GOD ONLY
HIS PROPHESIES ARE IN HIS WORD
NOT IN MAN'S IMAGINATIONS
070dfa No.4469042
>>4468821
Why do you .com people always leave out Daniel? Whats wrong puppet,
doesn't he fit into your timeline?
And you always leave Enoch out too.
b084ef No.4469132
>>4466960
Yeah I like that board… the JQ is very important in understanding the global socio-political happenings of the past 6 millenia and beyond.
b084ef No.4469153
>>4467706
what do u have against the sayings of Jesus? why are u kvetching like a glowing faggot?
All questions that lead to one answer… ur scared rabbi.
e97ef7 No.4469252
>>4469042
If you intended to come here to learn, you would already know the prophet Daniel is one of the most important prophets of our time because he gave us the keys to understanding how the other prophets of Scripture encoded messages that speak specifically to certain times, as well as to our time now.
Chief of these is the image of the king's dream that Daniel interpreted. It pertains to five specific time periods, of which we are now in the fourth.
He also taught of the "time, times and a half" - which is OUR HISTORY that is now past and identifies as the first of the five types in the other key.
Daniel also gave us the key to understanding the exact time of the declaration of the start of each such "age" of time. This was "the going forth of the command to restore and to build Jerusalem." Jerusalem (by it's meaning, which is "stronghold of peace and religious order") has been "built" three times throughout history by our forefathers, and we are now building yet another one "in the sky" (over all else) right now..
These things (and much else that pertains to them) are also explained in the same study, pg 25.
e97ef7 No.4469318
>>4469252
>identifies as the first of the five types in the other key.
*correction
…identifies with the first THREE of the five types (which are times) in the other key.
070dfa No.4469413
>>4468681
>>4468821
What lies and crap you conspire to teach.
It's SON OF GOD
GOD SAVES US
!!Y-H-V-H saves!!
In Hebrew it's Yeshua or Yeshu
In the womb he was
The Son of God
In Greek, it became Iesous which has nothing to do with soter, the Greek word for save. Then from Greek it went to "Jesus."
Luke 1:31
Look! You will become pregnant, you will give birth to a son, and you are to name him Yeshua. He will be great, he will be called Son of Ha'Elyon, Adonai, God, will give him the throne of his forefather David: and he will rule the house of Ya'akov forever — there will be no end to his Kingdom.
"How can this be," asked Miriam of the angel, "since I'm a virgin?" The angel answered her,
==The Reach HaKodesh will come over you. Therefore the holy child will be born to you will be called the Son of God.
John 20:31
But these which have been recorded are here so that you may trust that Yeshua is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by this trust you may have life because of who he is.
====
Twice from heaven God calls down in his own voice proclaiming his Son, with whom he is well pleased.
====
YOU ARE FALSE TEACHERS
e97ef7 No.4469541
>>4469413
>GOD SAVES US
God does what He does through the hearts of the righteous.
If we were false teachers, you would have abandoned this thread a long time ago.
But we are not, so you stay here to make trouble, because you despise seeing TRUTH here.
Thank you however, for helping advertise it.
070dfa No.4469561
>>4469252
Yes, Mr know it all false teacher I am aware of that. That's why I called you out on it. You leave Daniel's prophecies completely out because it does not add up to the dates in time you are pushing to support your narrative, then you add start date numbers not found anywhere in the Word, and that none of the prophets prophesied. You totally leave Enoch 's prophecies out.
You make up shit and
you add and subtract from God's Word to do it, then you present it here as God's truth when It's a lie — to lead God's people astray while you direct them to your .com sources
That are not from God.
==TRUST GOD ONLY
070dfa No.4469646
>>4469541
Exactly wrong. It's because you are false teachers that God put me here to rebuke you. It is no small thing to add and subtract from God's Word and then teach lies to innocents in the name of the Lord.
This isn't a game, or a college course. It's a matter of life and death. Many will perish due to lack of knowledge, and you get knowledge by reading the WORD of GOD.
Not by listening to your lies that you learn on .com from the imaginations of men or make up in your own understanding.
==TRUST GOD ONLY
070dfa No.4469683
>>4469646
And I'll add, they are men/women doing it to make money. .com, TV prophets, whoever, they are moneymakers and moneychangers. Make no mistake about that. They don't even honor God's Holy day, they honor Satan's. And so do you.
GOD'S knowledge is free
And he'll teach you for nothing.
070dfa No.4469908
>>4469541
And you're such an idiot you should be embarrassed by what you post. I can tell you haven't read the Word from beginning to end, not even once, so don't bother lying. You are obviously and most definitely a .com educated brain, the more the better.
HE SAVES US is the Hebrew meaning for Yeshua's name. The one God gave him. Yeshua is a Jew, a Hebrew.
You don't even know what the Lord's name means, however, you are totally willing to post nonsense about it.
e97ef7 No.4469921
>>4469561
>You leave Daniel's prophecies completely out because it does not add up to the dates in time you are pushing…
The prophecies and times Daniel gives us line up EXACTLY with the calendar of Moses and many other Scriptural and post-biblical, historical events. A great many. And they all line up with EXACT prophecies of time that pertain to the present age.
These times are referred to in many parts of the work. One of the best summaries of many of them is in the two pages that start on page 99. ( https://cog49.com/ft.pdf )
Some six weeks before Q showed up on 4chan, this study appeared there and outlined how Scripture describes the "world authority" he wields - before he even showed up and began deploying it.
This is why this doc (above) has always been the most widely accepted piece of theological literature on this board.
Have you found that part in the study yet? It has been there since the start.
070dfa No.4471208
>>4469921
Look I see, after looking at it, that you and followers of Mr. Wright's "compilation" simply copy word for word parts of his work, (which explains why so many of you have no background reading the WORD of God), and then you post it here as your own. With no sauce.
Everything you post is blindly dependent on Clay Wright whether you want to admit that or not, and his work is clearly conclusions from his own interpretations. It is not from God.
Because you haven't read God's Word for youselves, you are really in no position to claim Mr. Wright keeps true to what God says, except for making grand sales pitches. I have read the Bible many times verse upon verse and Mr. Wright said few people had, and eluded to problems getting God's knowledge due to what I'll call "pre-existing mind set conditions. Indoctrination. Brainwashing. etc. I don't agree with that and neither does God. God is always truth. He is so pure, his knowledge. His Word I love. I love him. He loves us, he's always there. His creation is beautiful. Him I trust and go to. Though we all have our own experiences with darkness, It's better to seek the Light and he is always willing to teach us.
So I reject this guy, Mr. Wright. He adds a lot of assumptions, conclusions and assertions explaining God and times without any references of credibility. It's like his own thesis. A book report. If you run his shit up side by side with God's Word, he adds in and leaves out much. He says a lot about "the first tablets of Moses," but shows you none. And he calls Yeshua "Jesus" and provides no sauce on the meaning of names he claims to know, and leaves out the Hebrew roots, and other things. So, because he adds and subtracts from God's pure knowledge, and embellishes it with his own, I say he's meets God's definition of a false teacher.
His work is his work. He conflates what God says.
Because you lack God's pure knowledge and are all wrapped up in his "sayings" you have no ability to explain or defend it except by quoting his sayings.
That's really a classic definition of indoctrination. You've actually rejected God's knowledge on the grounds of choosing Mr. Wright's interpretation of God's knowledge. And even because the copyright date was in 2017.
e97ef7 No.4471681
>>4471208
There has been no copypasting of any of the text in that doc to these threads.
So your first accusation is a blatant lie anyone here can verify for themselves.
Nothing you said after that matters now, since you have plainly made yourself a liar at the start.
Anons do their own research, they are self-taught and immune to anyone that brings them falseness because of that. And they think for themselves. You cannot change that.
The most fascinating part of the study is about the first tablets. They outline the "law of the spirit" as Moses taught it, which is mentioned elsewhere in Scripture. That is what changes everything. But I see you haven't found that part yet.
As for the Hebrew language, and since you would like to see the text from the document appear here, the pic related (from page 7 - you haven't even gotten that far) explains one of the unique aspects of the work, which is a means of translation that circumvents Hebrew.
The need for circumventing Hebrew is to allow the Author of sacred texts to speak to man directly - because, as all seasoned anons on this board know - the entire Christian world has been led astray and plundered by people who FEIGN AND ASSUME RIGHT OF MASTERY OVER THEM with Hebrew.
But the ancient authors of sacred texts apparently knew this would be the case because they obviously and intentionally used the natural language this document teaches, as well as many other unique messaging systems, to eliminate that problem.
Obviously, this also means anyone that prefers to strive for mastery of Christians and over their theology and thoughts by throwing around Hebrew would find this work extremely offensive - simply because it prevents that, by opening the mind and ear of the reader to God directly.
070dfa No.4471862
>>4471681
Well there were certainly very close renderings I recognized from excerpts in his "interpretation." And both topics brought up, and the materials used for responses to bash believers on here, followed his word descriptions, in fact it is totally obvious now that I read it.
Son of Man, bread, leavening, law, all of it — guess that's were the terminology comes from, allegorically speaking. Lol. No wonder the what, 3 or 4 groupies on here are rich on his stuff but have no clue about actual biblical teachings and precepts and outright refuse God's knowledge.
Yeah, that explains a whole lot.
Mr. Wright.
My guess is he comes on here to see how his shit is received, or not, and is plenty familiar with 4ch, 8ch, Reddit, anonymous, AI, is likely 40ish and probably collected most of his info to compose his "interpretation" off the Chan's, .com and the internet, and using bots and AI, would be no surprise. His first attempt at writing no doubt.
5 threads? But no threads for the Word of God? No threads for the Good News? It's really obvious. And he used the King James version, one of the poorest translations out there, but very popular with the committees.
And funny, makes many many "factual" statements and calculations based on info from "authors of ancient texts,"over and over and sages, without ever naming any.
Tablet of Moses is God using his finger to write the ten Words, but doesn't even list the ten Words, leaves the sign of Shabbat out and basically calls God a liar on many many things for which he provides "alternative" truths.
He's a hack. And after all the shit this board gives believers about being in a cult because they believe God's Word… Are you kidding? Then he wants you to spread his shit far and wide.
A crock of shit.
070dfa No.4471901
>>4471681
I went to the cite in you post. A 136pg pdf with no pictures.
He recognized plenty of Hebrew, so you are wrong there. The Israelites are Hebrew the language of creation was Hebrew, so how can you not? Why do you seem to have an issue with accepting the significance of Hebrew?
Like Yeshua. It matters very much.
070dfa No.4471926
>>4471681
Do your own research—
Has anyone read God's Word from front to back to compare his findings? No. You don't know the scriptures. He makes blatant interpretations set forth as facts for his theories. But the teachings in the Word contradict his interpretations. You would be blind to knowing that because you accept what he says based on only what he says and do not know the scriptures.
That is not research.
070dfa No.4471969
>>4471681
I do not follow a religion and never have. God told me ALL churches are corrupt and not to set one foot inside a church. So don't try to apply worthless words.
People were/are led astray due to lack of knowledge. That's what God says
The unfortunate condition of man does not make God's Word inadequate or lacking in any way.
God's Word is pure.
This guy could not have any working theory without adding and subtracting from God's pure Word.
He openly admits that. It's his interpretation, not God's.
43551c No.4472790
>>4469413
>What lies and crap you conspire to teach….It's SON OF GOD
He is the preeminent Son of God (Col 1:18).
>>4469541
>God does what He does through the hearts of the righteous.
You aren’t righteous (Ro 3:12) and your heart is wicked (Jer 17:9).
43551c No.4472829
>>4471969
> God told me ALL churches are corrupt
1 Jn 4:1
6173fd No.4472840
>>4471969
Everyone has sin and evil present with(in) them.
The sin and evil present of believers is more sinister and deceptive. They, almost to the person, believe that others will fry alive for their sins if they don't believe like them, while their sins get off SCOTT FREE.
It's called hypocrisy. And yes, the churches have dripped with it for quite some time now.
They'll pretend to love their neighbors, while simultaneously condemning them all in their hearts.
It's the only thing y'all have in common.
Matthew 23:15
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
When anyone figures out their own sin and evil present is demonically sourced, it's not hard to figure out who is in control of them. AND who Jesus Speaks WOE to.
The devil does enter hearts, where the Word is sown. Mark 4:15. The proof is set right before our own eyes, by the conveyances of the so called believers.
It's a sorry thing to watch.
43551c No.4472845
You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it (Mt 16:18).
43551c No.4472861
>>4472840
>their sins get off SCOTT FREE.
Have you ever met a Christian?
We do not teach that men get by with sin (Ga 6:7).
6173fd No.4472917
>>4472861
Who's we?
No christian has ever made themselves sinless. That's another fantasy of hypocrites.
43551c No.4472962
>>4472917
>No christian has ever made themselves sinless.
Have you ever met a Christian? The Christian is not sinless. He sins less (1 Jn 3:9).
6173fd No.4472993
>>4472962
Do the "we" think they are better? The we should pay attention to Romans 3:9. We are no better.
The opposite is the case, particularly when believers sentence other sinners in their hearts to burn alive forever. It's the mark of hypocrisy.
Paul understood the principle of Mark 4:15 very well. So did John. 1 John 3:8.
No one makes the devil less of a sinner.
Paul in 1 Tim. 1:15 declares himself the chief of sinners, after salvation. He knew who his enemy was, and it was not our blinded by the god of this world neighbors. 2 Cor. 12:7
43551c No.4473037
>>4472993
>Do the "we" think they are better?
Have you ever met a Christian? He's in church because he knows he's not better than any other man. Phil 3:10
070dfa No.4474900
>>4472840
Here you go again
With YOUR message of
sin sin sin sin evil present we are all evil, accusing God's people all day long.
Where is the Good News?
Where is the forgiveness?
Where is the Light?
[Not coming from you]
Isn't it God's alone that saves us and thorough which we are forgiven?
And freed of the sting of death?
You teach darkness and preach preach preach the way of Satan, your father, the one who always tries, in vain, to accuse us before our Lord all day long.
==HERE'S WHAT GOD SAYS
Isaiah 43:25
I, yes I, am the one who blots out your offenses for my own sake; I will not remember your sins.
Psalms 103:10-12
He has not treated us as our sin deserves or paid us back for our offenses, because his mercy toward those who fear him is far above the earth as heaven. He has removed our sins from us as far as the east is from the West.
Isaiah 1:18
"Come now," says Adonai, "let's talk this over together. Even if sins are like scarlet, they will be white like wool…"
I John 1:9
If we acknowledge our sins, then, since he is trustworthy and just, he will forgive them and PURIFY US FROM ALL WRONGDOING.
Micah 7:18-19
Who is God like you,
pardoning sin and overlooking the crimes of the remnant of his heritage?
He does not retain his anger forever, because he delights in grace.
He will again have compassion on us, he will subdue our inequities.
You will throw our sins
into the depths of the sea.
Acts 3:19
"Therefore, repent and turn to God, so that your sins may be erased; so that times of refreshing may come from the Lord's presence; and he may send the appointed in advance for you, that is, Yeshua.
====
You are a false teacher
A God hater and a teacher of darkness
Don't listen to his message
===
43551c No.4475093
>>4474900
>With YOUR message of
>sin sin sin sin
You are a sinner in need of a savior (Mt 1:21).
070dfa No.4475226
>>4475093
Hey big liar shill bot
I'm already saved!!!
And I TRUST GOD
And believe his promises.
====
But thank you for your message of hate and darkness. God uses it to show how light parades as Satan, and also, you are a great great example of a shill bot social atheist pig. So thanks again.
Do you get paid by the post?
43551c No.4478850
>>4475226
>Hey big liar shill bot
>>4475226
>But thank you for your message of hate…
"Truth is hate to those who hate the truth." ~ Bob Enyart
6173fd No.4479271
>>4473037
We are no better than the common unbeliever.
Going to church, confessing, repenting, none of that makes anyone sinless. No, not one. Most of the time all those actions make the practitioners think they are sinless though, and makes them hypocrites and dishonest too.
6173fd No.4479289
>>4474900
You really should learn to pay attention.
Sin is of the devil. Yeah, even yours.
The devil ain't getting off the hook.
We can provide cover though, huh?
lol
ccf768 No.4479348
>>4441666
No, no it does not. The Q sourse is a fiction created by Germans as a lost gospel that is the basis for all the others.
What you're lying about is the Jefferson bible, where Jefferson only included Jesus' words, and cut out all of Jesus' divinity.
43551c No.4479394
>>4479271
>…Going to church, confessing, repenting, none of that makes anyone sinless. No, not one. Most of the time all those actions make the practitioners think they are sinless…
Have you ever met a Christian? We have been justified, are being sanctified and one day will be glorified.
It’s not guesswork. We have certainty that we are saved (1 Jn 3:14).
> …makes them hypocrites…
Have you ever met a Christian? They walk the walk (Ro 8:14).
> …and dishonest too.
You’re projecting again (Eph 4:14).
43551c No.4479458
>>4479289
>The devil ain't getting off the hook.
Satan cannot be saved (Matt. 25:41). Men can be saved (Jn 3:16).
070dfa No.4479470
>>4478850
Daaaaa
No, hate is hate
Shill has no truth in him
and Bobby's in it for the money,
like you botfag
Worthless words
Worthless shitposter
Worthless message
Of hate and darkness
6173fd No.4479614
>>4479394
Indwelling sin and evil present never depart the flesh, are never justified, sanctified, obedient to Christ, faithful and never will be. Romans 7:17-21
Romans 2:
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
Romans 7:
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
When the devil is correctly brought into the picture of sin, it's an accurate picture.
6173fd No.4479644
>>4479470
Y'all can cover up your sin and provide excuses for the devil under the guise of faith or going to church on Saturday or any number of other vain religious exercises, but it won't cut it.
Jesus sees right through that crap. Bank on it.
6173fd No.4479846
Luke 4:4
And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
It would be nice if Jesus would blast the wax out of believer's ears so they'd stop condemning their blinded by the god of this world's neighbors to burn alive forever RATHER THAN rightfully placing that DIVINE FATE upon the "god of this world" where it belongs…
BUT, this is a reality to FULFILL scripture:
Matt. 13:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.
18 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.
19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
How much of that WORD applies to MAN?
Every last jot and tittle.
The instant you hear a liar in your own head telling you otherwise, you've been HAD.
Don't you realize that the basis of JUDGING THE DEVIL, THE WICKED MESSENGER rather than our blinded neigbors is the very BASIS upon which to…
LOVE THEM?
Get a clue you blinded damners of our fellow man.
Put judgment where it belongs. Start between your own ears.
6173fd No.4479970
How many times does Jesus have to repeat the lesson?
Luke 18:
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified RATHER THAN THE OTHER: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
The abasement that GOD puts upon THE OTHER is hypocrisy, lies, and the belief that other sinners who are just like them are going to burn alive forever. This is the ANTI-REWARD in this present life given by GOD IN CHRIST.
And the bearers are going to look pretty stupid, in the end. Fortunate for them Jesus will given them the Divine Bailout, regardless, along with their unsaved neighbors too.
Why? Because there is another party involved with mankind. The devil and his messengers. They will take the real RAP, in the end.
In Israel sins were put upon the GOAT. Get it yet?
Leviticus 16:21
And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:
070dfa No.4480032
>>4479644
>>4479614
Oh give it a rest shillbot fags
Everyone on here has seen the spewing of your same ol vomit thread after thread.
We know you work for Satan
We know you're in a basement
(making minimum wage).
Guess you all came on duty
Stalinists pig lovers
Worthless words
You have no power
And you're stupid as a pile of shit.
>>4479970
And what a special kind of blubbering idiot you are. Really.
5 gold stars for you
You must prep hard for pasta
6173fd No.4480041
Paul understood the PRINCIPLE that man will live by every Word of God. Not just the parts we like to heap upon ourselves:
Matthew 7:17
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Knowing the scripture, Luke 4:4, that man shall live by EVERY WORD, how much of Matt. 7:17 applies to every one of us?
EVERY WORD. Not just the first part of that scripture.
Wanna see how this FACT was put into action by Paul?
Romans 7:
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
You think Paul exempted himself from Matt. 7:17: but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. ???
Think again. Try to read through the hypocrisy and lies fog in your religious monkey brain.
6173fd No.4480063
>>4480032
Yer gunna figure out one of these days that God's Words provoke the devils in man.
Feeling provoked yet?
87b419 No.4480309
12 days of Christmas. Today the "NEWS" reported that the Marine that stands guards was "missing".
Now watch the clip.
Read the desk.
Haha. Messages are everywhere.
43551c No.4480719
>>4479614
>Indwelling sin and evil present never depart the flesh
And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin [1 John 3:5].
"Only the Lord Jesus can take away sin. He came for that purpose.
Two things are important for us to see here. In John’s gospel he wrote, “… Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world” (John 1:29). He bore the penalty of sin. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life” (John 3:16). Christ died for the sin of the world. Now here in John’s epistle he shows that Christ takes away the practice of sin in the life of the believer. Christ is the “propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world” (1 John 2:2). What is the difference? Well, He died a redemptive death to pay the penalty of our sin, but He also died that He might deliver us from the power of sin right here and now.
“And in him is no sin.” The literal translation of this is: “in Him sin is not.” He died a redemptive death—He was our sin offering. He was without sin; He was without spot or blemish as was the Levitical sin offering. Therefore He is able to remove the guilt of sin and to provide the power to deliver us from the habit of sinning. He has given to us a new nature that we might live for Him today." McGee, J. V. (1997). Thru the Bible commentary (electronic ed., Vol. 5, p. 789). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
43551c No.4480773
>>4479644
>Y'all can cover up your sin and provide excuses for the devil under the guise of faith…
You’re projecting again (Pr 28:13).
6173fd No.4481280
Here's the inside scoop. See if you can keep Luke 4:4 in mind, that EVERY WORD of God applies to MAN for life. But MAN is not the only party involved with MAN.
Mark 4:
15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.
What form does this internal defiling OF SATAN take?
Matt. 15:
19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.
A discerning reader might even notice that these evil thoughts are thoughts against God's Words of LAW. Imagine that?
Here Paul puts these scriptural facts into action for himself:
Romans 7:
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
Pretty simple, that is, if you believe what Jesus and Paul said is true for yourself. But unbelievers not only will not, but can not believe the facts for themselves.
Here's another working of that same Mark 4:15 fact:
Romans 11:
8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
How did God do that to unbelieving Israel? By SOWING HIS WORD in them. Satan entered, blinded and stole from them, caused EVIL THOUGHTS against GOD'S LAW's and IS the spirit of slumber and spiritual blindness upon them.
It's a very real phenomena, to this day.
And it's openly evidenced even moreso by so called believers (who are really just demonically held primates) who promote that their fellow man, whom we are commanded to love, actually burn alive forever. You can't get any FURTHER AWAY from God's Command than that.
What did Jesus say about the men who nailed Him to His Cross?
Luke 23:34
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
What did Stephen say when he was stoned?
Acts 7:
60 And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge.
They knew what was really going on, inside these people. And it was not just people.
When Paul received his direct mission statement from Jesus, what was it?
Acts 26:
18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
NO ONE TURNS from what they deny they have and they do not because they CAN'T SEE IT. They have been effectively BLINDED by Mark 4:15 and they DENY that Word is to them.
Even more! When Word is lifted up, the reactions are progressively adverse to the FACTS. Cursing denial is what Peter experienced for example, on the night that Jesus was entering His Last Steps of being murdered by DEVILS in man. Peter also was experiencing Mark 4:15, first hand, just as he had before in:
Matthew 16:23
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan:
Only the blindest of the blind think Jesus was speaking to Peter and not SATAN. Peter was NOT Satan, but Mark 4:15 IS in operation here.
Same principle happened with Judas:
Luke 22:3
Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.
Why are "ye," plural, so DUMB? Go figure.
070dfa No.4485529
>>4479644
>>4479289
>>4479614
>>4481280
Atheist Pigs'
Paid Operative
Worker's Manual
1) Narrative Control: leave The Good News out; stamp out God's message; mock God's children, and create a continuous fuck storm of evil, and make it personal.
2) Tactic: shitpost continuously about "evil" in the name of the Lord
3) Tactic: continuosly blabber ignominious insults to God's people in the name of the Lord
4) Shillbank: pastaposted scriptures about sin and evil mixed with shitposts (see above), in the name of the Lord.
==
Id 6173fd. Paid jackel.
===
LEAVES THIS OUT
(in fact, everyone on here does)
It says "expels all demons"
Do you not get that?
Luke 9:1-2; 6
Calling the Twelve, Yeshua gave them power and authority to expel all demons and to cure diseases; and he sent them out to proclaim the Kingdom of God and to heal… They set out and went through village after village, healing and announcing the Good News everywhere.
Mark 16-15-17
(Yeshua, after risen)
Then he said to them, "As you go throughout the world, proclaim the Good News to all creation. Whoever trusts and is immersed will be saved, whoever does not trust, will be confirmed.
====
=Why do you skip GOD'S MESSAGE?=
070dfa No.4485704
>>4485529
Typo Correction
Last verse in
Mark 16:15-17
Whoever trusts and is immersed will be saved, whoever does not trust
will be condemned.
It's always been about trusting, from beginning to end
TRUST GOD ONLY
43551c No.4486430
>>4485704
>Whoever trusts and is immersed will be saved
The thief on the cross (Lk 23:43) did not get immersed as you put it. Does your gospel exclude: repentance (Acts 2:37, 38), sanctification (1 Pet. 1:2), Lordship (Lk 6:46), etc.
070dfa No.4487823
>>4486430
How would you possibly know that shill?
The Lord forgave him and immersed him on the spot. While they were both still nailed to the execution stake—
Soaked him in Spirit
Is that good enough for you shill?
Why do you insist on being such an arrogant ass?
Oh, that's right.
You're a fraud, a poser
and jackel, just like your buddy.
A fake and no friend of the Lord.
070dfa No.4487887
>>4486430
Why don't you read it?
Yeah, you only can only pasta post shit about it. Everyone knows you're a shill and a God hater.
43551c No.4487966
>>4487823
>The Lord forgave him and immersed him on the spot.
Baptism does not save you. Jesus saves (Isa 63:9; Eph 5:23). Jesus alone saves (Isa 45:21,22; 59:16; Ac 4:12).
> …[Y]ou're a shill and a God hater.
You’re projecting again (Eph 4:14).
b084ef No.4488453
>>4480309
whats on the desk? I couldnt make anything out?
b084ef No.4488484
>>4487966
>>4487887
Both of ur tag team bickershilling has taken up more than half the bread so far.
We see u glowing. Thx for informing us that we are over the target in this bread.
Q source scares u shills… and all it represents is the sayings of Christ… why would that bother anyone other than the members of the (((party))) that killed Christ?
Mossad much faggots?
0f6139 No.4488736
>>4486430
You delusional Christians are a problem. You embrace your religious "dogmas" and exclude the words of Jesus Christ himself and his brother. Pay attention please…
Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Faith without works is DEAD! Period. You must walk the walk. And as Jesus said before and AFTER he was killed…
Mat 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
and…
Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I hope you get it. It is not what you believe in your mind, it is what he said to do. And if you believe on him then believe what he said to do - not just believe he existed.
The thief on the cross did not receive anything. Jesus told him that he would be with him in a future park like setting to receive his judgment on judgment day. The Greek word for Paradise does not mean salvation, heaven, or any such nonsense. Paradiso is the word and it means a future setting more or less.
Also, as Paul says…
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
He is not talking about Law. He is talking about works of law called Judaism or at that time the oral law of customs and traditions. Paul tells you…
Act 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
You people have twisted Jesus' words worse than the Jews have.
0f6139 No.4488785
>>4480719
Jesus does not take away your sin. He is the person you pray to because you sinned.
Did he remove sin in the world? No. Does he remove your sins in real time? No.
You people use the word sin and have no clue what it is, how you do it, how it effects you/your loved ones/your friends/employees/animals/ etc.
Jesus at no time ever said live in sin and just call on him.
You folks are following religion not the bible.
43551c No.4490013
>>4488785
>Jesus does not take away your sin.
Mt 1:21
0f6139 No.4491204
>>4490013
When you sin, you sin. Do you still see sin in the world? Of course.
WHEN does he save his people and who, AT THAT TIME, are "his people"? Christians? Jews? Israelites? Those that kept the Law?
Yes, he does remove sins of the world. WHEN? Not now.
070dfa No.4491363
>>4481280
>>4487966
These guys/bots are paid fuckin shill shitposters. Read their shitposts and there will be no doubt.
Same MO, same shit, different thread.
>>4488484
You are obviously only here to shit the bread up because you can't handle it when anyone criticizes your precious—
You've been butt hurt for 5 threads now, and delusional yourself, if you think everyone posting a negative comment calling out the farce QS is a "scared shill."
Get ahold of your wits and accept reality.
Qsource is a pathetic attempt to make an unsubstantiated opinion "the truth" when it has no factual basis and does not hold up under the Word. It can't hold up because most of the Word is removed from it.
It's like tying a rubber band around your balls and watching them shrivel up and fall off.
That's exactly what it does to the Word.
QS castrates the WORD.
If you actually read the Word the way God intended (instead holding on to your replacement therapy doll) you would see that immediately. So that just makes you a dumb lost idiot trying to get others to join you in your wasteland, while you ignore God.
Get over yourself
Do I sound scared?
Ball-less pest.
070dfa No.4491506
>>4491204
Idiot shill liars.
Those are really the only ones here.
Oh well, you do give God an opportunity to show you are a liar, again.
=
=GOD SAYS THIS=
Isaiah 43:25
I, yes I, am the one who blots out your offenses for my own sake; I will not remember your sins.
Psalms 103:10-12
He has not treated us as our sin deserves or paid us back for our offenses, because his mercy toward those who fear him is far above the earth as heaven. He has removed our sins from us as far as the east is from the West.
Isaiah 1:18
"Come now," says Adonai, "let's talk this over together. Even if sins are like scarlet, they will be white like wool…"
I John 1:9
If we acknowledge our sins, then, since he is trustworthy and just, he will forgive them and PURIFY US FROM ALL WRONGDOING.
Micah 7:18-19
Who is God like you,
pardoning sin and overlooking the crimes of the remnant of his heritage?
He does not retain his anger forever, because he delights in grace.
He will again have compassion on us, he will subdue our inequities.
You will throw our sins
into the depths of the sea.
Acts 3:19
"Therefore, repent and turn to God, so that your sins may be erased; so that times of refreshing may come from the Lord's presence; and he may send the appointed in advance for you, that is, Yeshua.
====
Shillbot idiot
God hater
Don't listen to his message
We certainly are forgiven
and our sins are blotted out
You evil fuckers will be judged
But you know that already.
==GOD WINS
=============
b084ef No.4491581
>>4491363
U think we cant see thru ur bs?
U attack ur fellow shills to give urself street cred and partake in the tagteam bickerfest you’ve turned this board into… then u lump me in there.
cool story.
There’s really only one way to piss u Mossad faggots off and thats to start talking about the Jews - the same ones that killed Christ. The same ones that study the Talmud, which was written by the Pharisees… the same Pharisees Jesus called out…
which brings us full circle to why u mossad homos spaz out when I focus on Jesus and the parables and sayings he spoke.
070dfa No.4491718
>>4491204
Believers are undergoing purification.
We sin, we sin and don't even know it, we ask for forgiveness, we pray, and God forgives us, and we grow closer to him.
Each of us who trusts and believes, and submits to GOD, are constantly being taught and purified. We are taught how to overcome and stay in the race, and finish the race.
Since you are merely a dumb and stupid shill puppet who doesn't read the Word, and only pasta posts scriptures to shit here, and in fact hates God and his children, because your father is Satan, you would not know this process.
You don't know GOD'S mercy;
You don't know his compassion;
You don't know his love.
You do not know that it is endless.
You are an empty vessel.
You are dead.
070dfa No.4491842
>>4491581
Oh your true colors. I recognize your many identical posts and pictures from the research threads. How many times you post this shit kikefaggot? Do they pay you by the post. Guess you're bringing out your big gun.
Bahaha hahahahahahahahaha
GTFO here. Go back to your hell hole
070dfa No.4491881
>>4491581
>>4491747
So funny. They tear you up over there, and destroy you when you bring up that qsource crap….
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
b084ef No.4491936
>>4491842
>>4491881
and thats why I post it… just to watch u mossad homos get triggered.
This is too fun.
Hey d bag, did the oral traditions of the Pharisees become the Talmud????
b084ef No.4491947
>>4491936
wrong graphic. this is right one
070dfa No.4492052
>>4491936
You're the one who's butt hurt. That explains so much. I too get entertained watching them destroy you.
So, in your tiny pea brain you somehow think you're not the faggot?
That's even funnier.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Exposed shill shitposter.
You are so stupid
ccf768 No.4492177
>>4488785
You're kind of missing the point, anon.
Jesus did not come to remove the sin from the world.
He came to pay the price. He came not to judge the world, but to save it.
ccf768 No.4492191
>>4443123
He started it. He baked it to trash Christ and Christians.
070dfa No.4492194
>>4492052
To clarify, I consider you so sick in the head to post what you post, I don't look at or read anything you post.
I read all the comments destroying you because I'm glad people call you out on your evil shit. I would be concerned even more of mankind, if they didn't. I read an explanation, about the wine, etc., but think it's a leap to go to what you're saying. You always ignore explanations, on this thread too, which makes me even further inclined to believe
you're a paid shill on a mission.
You have a huge gap in truth.
God is truth.
His way is pure.
The ones in the synagogue of Satan have nothing to do with GOD.
I think you're really confused about the difference, unless of course, you're in the synagogue of Satan.
ccf768 No.4492220
>>4446927
Information, not knowledge. The Wizard and Warlocks are intel assets who are the guardians of our info, our intel. no such agency types
ccf768 No.4492231
>>4492194
When God says that the heart of man is endlessly wicked, he knows what he's talking about.
43551c No.4492244
>>4491204
> WHEN does he save his people and who, AT THAT TIME, are "his people"?
Justification is a one-time event (Rom. 3:26, 27). Sanctification is ongoing (2 Co 3:18). Anyone can be his (2 Pe 3:8-10).
> Yes, he does remove sins of the world. WHEN? Not now.
We are led by the spirit (Ro 8:14). If you are led differently, so be it (Re 22:11). We give out the word of God. What men do with it is their business.
ccf768 No.4492252
>>4488736
It's delusional to note that a man in the middle of a crucifixion did not get baptised? Yet was in Paradise with Jesus that very day, and then led to heaven? How is that delusional? And what exactly do you think "faith without the works of the Holy Spirit evident is dead" actually means? As a tip, is faith in the buddha dead faith?
ccf768 No.4492263
>>4492244
Spiritual maturity is an ongoing event; sanctification can only come by the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit in a temple/body whose sins are forgiven, thus not causing the Holy Spirit to flee as He fled Adam and Jesus. Sanctified, set apart, happens at the same time as justification; the same instant. We're looking forward to glorification, which has not happened to either one of us yet, but will certainly happen at the right time.
43551c No.4492298
>>4492177
>Jesus did not come to remove the sin from the world.
B. The wheat and the thistle (13:24–30, 36–43)
1. Information in the parable (13:24–30)
a. The diligence of a sower (13:24) : A farmer sows good seed throughout his field.
b. The discovery by the sower (13:25–28): He learns his enemy later secretly visited the field and sowed thistles among the wheat.
c. The dilemma of the sower (13:29) : He knows that if he attempts to pull out the thistles, he will also harm the wheat.
d. The decision of the sower (13:30) : He will wait until harvesttime, when he will sort out the thistles from the wheat and burn them. Willmington, H. L. (1999). The Outline Bible (Mt 13:23–30). Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House Publishers.
070dfa No.4492330
>>4492244
Yes he does. But then, in his endless compassion and mercy, he offers us salvation, without charge, and a relationship of love with him.
It's called
THE GOOD NEWS!!!
People on here always leave that part out. Why?
070dfa No.4492370
>>4492298
The day will come, but only the Father knows when. That's why he tells us t get our shit together, and take care of our house.
The last will be first
b084ef No.4492391
>>4492330
cus ur a mossad bickershill faggot so mercy doesnt apply to u.
43551c No.4492414
>>4492263
> Spiritual maturity is an ongoing event; sanctification can only come by the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit in a temple/body whose sins are forgiven…
If your faith is genuine (Rom. 3:26, 27), it will show in your works (James 2:14–26).
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck (Ga 5:19–21 vs. vv. 22–26).
070dfa No.4492451
>>4492263
Fled Yeshua?
Not so. Dove landed; Father spoke from heaven… He came as the Angel of God many times. Read the Torah. That "trinity" teaching is man-made bullshit.
Your confusion is …
confused.
070dfa No.4492483
>>4492391
Nice try but you already outed yourself faggot shill. You can't go back now.
I'm glad you're outed
Now we see you
070dfa No.4492625
>>4491581
You really deserve your own write up over in Clown College. So predictable, all your shill moves, especially now that you're outed — on so many levels.
There's nothing you can say now.
You can't un-out yourself.
Ooooo, maybe you'll get fired.
6173fd No.4492694
>>4485529
All people are going to be saved by Jesus, either at death or enmasse, at the end.
And all devils will be utterly destroyed.
Yet you don't seem to hear any good news?
Reeeeek on
070dfa No.4492793
>>4492694
It's ignorant posts like this that expose your true purpose here.
So many shills crawling out of the woodwork tonight.
Here's another one.
No believer could be that stupid.
b084ef No.4493286
>>4492483
i baked this bread u dumb fuck… the same bread that 1/3 posts are yours… cus ur a scared mossad faggot that doesnt like us discussing Jesus.
seriously, 1 out of every 3 posts is from ur faggoty ass bicker shilling and sliding the bread.
another 1/3 are ur jidf cubicle m8s doing the same shit.
Ur desperation is sad… but very telling.
Thx for informing me that I’m over the target.
43551c No.4493304
>>4492451
> "trinity" teaching is man-made
False (2 Pe 2:1). The trinity is revealed in the Old Testament: at Creation (Gen. 1:1–3, 26), in the personality of the Spirit (Is. 40:13; Is. 48:16); by: divine angel (Judg. 13:8–23), personification of Wisdom (Prov. 8:22–31), threefold “Holy” (Is. 6:3), Aaronic benediction (Num. 6:24–27); Revealed in the New Testament: at Christ’s baptism (Matt. 3:16, 17); in: Christ’s teaching (John 14:26; John 15:26), baptismal formula (Matt. 28:19), apostolic benediction (2 Cor. 13:14), apostolic teaching (Gal. 4:4–6). Thomas Nelson Publishers. (1996). Nelson’s quick reference topical Bible index (p. 625). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers.
43551c No.4493346
>>4492694
>All people are going to be saved by Jesus
False (2 Pe 2:1). The: wicked (Rev. 21:8), disobedient (Rom. 2:8, 9), worshipers of the beast (Rev. 14:11) and rejectors of the Gospel (Matt. 10:15) will go to hell. Thomas Nelson Publishers. (1996). Nelson’s quick reference topical Bible index (p. 283). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers.
070dfa No.4493415
>>4488736
The man certainly did receive forgiveness of sins before he died.
As for death, it's another red pill due to books full of lies and indoctrination to believe you just go right up to heaven. And now days anyone can go there, according to the corrupt churches.
The Bible does not teach that, the Word says we sleep. We go the way of the earth (for the time being, until the great day). The Bible says when we're dead, we cease having anything to do. We stop doing business. We're not wisked up to heaven. Look up and read the scriptures. Funerals are a joke what they say and teach.
There is one incident regarding Samuel right before King Saul dies. He gets that women to conjure Samuel up so he can talk to himm, and Samuel is not too pleased to have been disturbed.
Where are the souls of the Dead? Enoch, and scriptures, especially speaking of kings and warriors, describe 3 abysses, prepared for the souls of the dead. One is for lawless sinners –the sinners die with the sinners, the ones who die in their sins, one is for righteous believers who trust in God, and follow him, and one is reserved for the fallen angels who followed Satan to earth, the stars that fell from heaven.
In Revelation when Yeshua comes with his army, there is loud noise, everyone can see him, and that's when the dead are raised. That explains the verse in the blink of an eye… Because you're dead, then boom boom boom, in the blink of an eye you're not.
Lot will happens, but it's important to know by the Word of God. Not by men's books, .com, and false teachers. Take the verses and parables about the wheat, were one will be taken and the other left behind.
Luke 17:37
They asked him, "Where Lord?" He answered, "Wherever there's a dead body, that's where the vultures gather."
So remember the book "Left Behind?" And millions of other books and movies from Masonic story lines? Why do they say the good ones were silently taken straight up to heaven, "rapture," and the bad ones were left behind? Down the freeway, and zoom, you're outta here.
In the Bible, the Lord himself says the opposite.
They lie about death, they lie about the second coming. They've spent how many years lying to us?
TRUST THE WORD ONLY
STAY ALERT
9ada98 No.4493550
>>4493286
yer dough not worthy of mold…yer batter is slimy and contaminated with your own scum…this anot bread, but maybe a stray muffin
070dfa No.4493740
>>4493304
We were all taught a lie in error.
It's just another red pill.
Should be getting easier to swalloww.
First, who are men and committees to define God and put limits on him?
Trinity by it's own definition of 3 has limits, right? God has a long right arm, and no limitations. He says so.
Read all the way through the Bible and look at all the names of God. Make a list. And look at the names in Hebrew, where their meaning is. God has no limitations, and there is no Hebrew word trinity.
The English word "trinity" appears in the Bible only by the imaginations and limitations of men. They voted on it, that's why it's there, and that's why you were taught that.
El is the first root from ancient Hebrew. It goes from there.
And another thing, there are a lot of lazy people on here. They don't read the scriptures or do research with God, they go to .com and seek opinions from men.
It will take you 4-6 months to read the Bible, average, more if you have a family to take care of. Who will read God's Word to find the truth?
And don't pick a watered down shitty translation.
But it never ever goes to trinity.
A garage word to keep everyone in line.
070dfa No.4494028
>>4493286
You've put yourself in an awkward position, assuming the point of the bread is truth. I use that term lightly here.
First, you're a shill on your own bread. Like a bilge pump that sees no end, as your ship sinks.
Second, You fight against truth, and do your best to shut it down, usually by calling truth a scared shill and a liar because you set your bread on the hope of QS, which in reality, lacks truth and has become a big disappointment for you, no doubt.
But, still you think you're over the target.
Must be a vicious circle for you.
Especially in addition to all your other admitted shilling activities on the research threads. Must make you both sick and dizzy.
Sad really.
Hopefully there won't be a number 6.
070dfa No.4494090
>>4493286
Be honest. You only "allow" discussing Yeshua (calling him by his real name) in the context of QS. That creates a lot of issues for other people, in case you haven't noticed.
If they refuse, you turn real nasty on them. And that doesn't help at all.
6173fd No.4495210
>>4493346
Only because your eyesight has been throttled back by the adversary:
1 Timothy 4:10
For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
I have no problem with the eternal destruction of the wicked, providing that the wicked are the devil and his messengers.
All people on the other hand are God's children. A position well established by scripture and orthodoxy. Deut. 14:1, Psalm 82:6, Matt. 23:9, Acts 17:27-29.
Your sight is in direct conflict with Jesus' Own statements of Matt. 4:4 and Luke 4:4, showing that man will LIVE, by every Word of God.
Instead, you see the exact opposite, which marks YOU as a pawn of the OPPOSER of God in Christ.
Now you heard the Good News in any case, and your restricted eyesight won't mean a thing to God in Christ. It's merely the hatred that you bear in the flesh toward your fellow man, whom we are to LOVE,
in case you forgot, which you did.
6173fd No.4495228
>>4492793
Anyone who disagrees with you is a shill, which basically means everyone.
070dfa No.4496504
>>4495228
Not really. Shills will be shills, as the saying goes, and their tactics used here speak for themselves and are easily observed and tracked.
Do I call out shills? Yes I do.
And they retaliate, and I don't care.
I post the entire scripture(s) that contradict their shitpost, not my opinion or some idiot selling crap on .com, including QS.
It's all of what GOD says that matters. He's the only giver of knowledge.
He makes it simple for even a child to understand. That's all you need, and it's nothing to do with religion.
It's not the spectacle they try to cram down throats. That's on purpose, the obnoxious presentation. They drag it all in and shit out as much as they can. They gut it, strip it & repackage it.
Real Christians don't do that.
They try to follow God. They make room for his Word. Shills don't.
That's the first clue.
On the contrary, shills make a pathetic spectacle out of God, his Word and anyone who follows him on purpose. They are here to harass and fuck with believers and demean God, to keep any person coming on here from the Good News, which is a message of hope and love.
Shills #1 goal is to desecrate their chance, and screw with them and God at the same time. This is obvious and observable.
So no, no matter how good they pastapost and whip out scriptures and spew shit, they do not work for God.
You know exactly what's been going on.
You're included.
6173fd
43551c
b084ef, admits is, and he shitposts all over the board.
This thread is infested.
43551c No.4498811
>>4495210
All people on the other hand are God's children.
False (2 Pe 2:1). Jn 8:44
c6a9f4 No.4498950
Bit of advice in this madness….. Ask all these “experts” about their encounters with the living God. If they don’t have any, move on, or at least don’t instantly “buy” everything they’re “selling”.
43551c No.4499098
On Trump's watch. Trust God's plan. https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/12/27/bokhari-2018-is-the-year-big-tech-censors-revealed-their-true-colors/
ccf768 No.4502487
>>4493740
Trinity
John 1 says that in the beginning was the Word (Jesus), and the Word (Jesus) was with God and the Word (Jesus) was God…..and the Word (Jesus) became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
In John 10:30 Jesus said that He and the Father are one.
In John 14:9 He said that anyone who has seen Him has seen the Father.
In Colossians 1:15 Paul wrote that Jesus is the (visible) image of the invisible God.
In Hebrews 1:3 Jesus is called the exact representation of God’s glory
In Hebrews 1:8 God Himself called Jesus God.
God’s Spirit is presumed to be one and the same with God just as your spirit is presumed to be one and the same with you. So if God and Jesus are one and the same, and God and His Spirit are one and the Same, then the three are one.
There is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4; Isaiah 45:5-6). Yet there are three persons presented as deity in Scripture: the Father (John 6:27; Colossians 1:3), the Son (John 1:1-3, 14; 8:24; 20:28-29; Romans 9:5; Titus 2:13; 2 Peter 1:1; Hebrews 1:10-12) and the Holy Spirit (John 14:16-17; Acts 5:3-4; 2 Samuel 23:2-3; 2 Corinthians 3:18). Lastly, these three are presented as distinct persons (John 8:16-18; Luke 11:1; 3:21-22; Galatians 4:6). Thus from Scripture we learn that although there is one God, there are three distinct persons who are deity. So the Trinity is the biblical position to hold to once one examines what Scripture teaches.
Evidence of the Trinity:
Genesis 1:2 - Holy Spirit of God
Genesis 1:26-27 - God refers to Himself in a plural form
Isaiah 28:19 God refers to Himself as both I and Us
Matthew 28:19 - Baptize in the name of GOD. Notice they share a name. It does not say baptize in the 'names'
Evidence of Jesus' Divinity:
Matthew 16:16 - Jesus is THE Son of God, not 'A' Son of God
Colossians 2:8-9 - ALL of the fullness of the divinity of God dwells in Christ bodily
Luke 8:39 - Jesus tells the man to tell his people what God had done for him, and the man tells them what JESUS did
John 5:18 - Jesus makes Himself equal to God
John 5:23 - We must honor the Son JUST AS we honor the Father.
John 10:38 - Jesus and the Father are in one another, or in 'union' as the JW translation puts it.
>Union: the action or fact of joining or being joined
John 20:28 - Thomas refers to Jesus as both Lord and God
The Holy Spirit is a part of God, not just some force that God uses.
John 14:16-17 - The Holy Spirit is a Helper, or a person who helps.
John 14:26 - Again, the Holy Spirit is a Helper; Also shows Jesus' divinity by showing He can send the Holy Spirit
John 15:26 - The Holy Spirit can bear witness
John 16:7-8 The Holy Spirit is referred to as a 'He', again shows that Jesus can send Him
ccf768 No.4502491
>>4493740
Trinity in the OT
In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1).
The Hebrew word for God is Elohim. Elohim is a plural noun but it is used here with a singular verb bara. Elohim speaks of the true God and is always used with a singular verb. In some sense God is both singular and plural
God Says Let Us
Let us make humankind in our image, according to our likeness… (Genesis 1).
The phrase let us again gives the idea of plurality. The word us cannot refer to angels because angels do not create
And now the Sovereign LORD has sent me, with his Spirit. This is what the LORD says - your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel: I am the LORD your God, who teaches you what is best for you, who directs you in the way you should go (Isaiah 48). In verse sixteen, God the Son is speaking. He identifies the Father [the Sovereign Lord] and His Spirit as having sent Him. In the next verse, the Son is clearly spoken of as the Lord
Father
Have we not all one father? Has not one God created us? Why then are we faithless to one another, profaning the covenant of our ancestors? (Malachi 2)
Son
Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. Your royal scepter is a scepter of equity; you love righteousness and hate wickedness. Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions (Psalm 45)
I have set my king on Zion, my holy hill. I will tell of the decree of the LORD: He said to me, You are my Son; today I have begotten you. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish in the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all those who put their trust in him (Psalm 2)
The Holy Spirit
The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him - the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD - and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears (Isaiah 11)
ccf768 No.4502514
>>4492298
Your post does not make any sense.
The wheat and the tares? True believers and hypocrites, and the Lord says to let the hypocrites stay in the church, because trying to get rid of them will also damage some of the true believers by mistake.
The sower and the seed is about the telling and hearing of the gospel, and has nothing to do with sin. The birds of the air are demons; if Jesus removed all sin, why allow demons to remain on earth, again?
ccf768 No.4502527
>>4492414
Yes, neither of which has anything to do with being sanctified.
If you think you can sanctify yourself over time, then you also think that you can justify yourself over time.
ccf768 No.4502533
>>4492451
Yes, the Holy Spirit fled Jesus on the cross, when Jesus became sin, just as the Holy Spirit fled Adam and Eve, when they sinned.
ccf768 No.4502543
>>4492694
No, that's absurd.
Jesus baptizes with Spirit and fire.
If you are not baptized in the Spirit, Jesus will baptize you in fire. Eternal fire. Held down, never to rise. The road to destruction is broad and leads to eternal hell, and MOST are on it.
ccf768 No.4502553
>>4498811
Most people are children of the devil.
You should really ask yourself who your spiritual father truly is, because universalism is a heresy against the work of Christ Jesus on the cross.
43551c No.4502615
>>4502514
>Your post does not make any sense.
Not to an unbeliever (John 8:43).
43551c No.4502875
>>4502553
>You should really ask yourself who your spiritual father truly is
You're projecting again (Eph 4:14).
ccf768 No.4503526
>>4502615
Proposition: Jesus removed all sin from the world.
Reality: Sin abounds (but grace abounds more)
Why do you pretend to be a Christian, instead of actually becoming a Christian?
ccf768 No.4503531
>>4502875
I know who my heavenly father is.
Do you know who your spiritual father really is?
070dfa No.4504594
>>4503531
You're wasting your breath on 43551c
A paid shill bot shitposter baiter
Everything he, or whatever "he" is,
posts is to harass believers. Atheist God hater, and hates POTUS too.
>>4502875
>>4502615
Shitposter / bot socialist pig
Poser fraud
070dfa No.4504647
>>4502553
Of course you could be one too, as you appear to feed his questions like a scripted exchangee. A duet possibly?
Ask some more
Shillbank got some playback?
070dfa No.4504697
>>4502543
Another tell tale sign of that you're implicit, is your lack of communicating the GOOD NEWS.
Apparently, speaking about the GOOD NEWS really irks atheist socialist shills. They just can't get the words out.
070dfa No.4504822
>>4502553
>>4502875
The shills abound
with shitposts about:
Devil children
Indwelling sin
Projection (43551c's favorite)
And so on.
They lie/
cause provocation about:
Forgiveness
Who is saved, and how
Who isn't saved, and why
And so on
Shills never post about:
God's Mercy
God's Hope
God's Compassion
God's Love
God's GOOD NEWS,
FAITH & TRUST
Get the drift?
They are empty vessels
Paid too mock GOD
Attack Believers
And disrupt
43551c No.4505048
>>4503526
> Sin abounds
You thought we’d already arrived? Phil 3:12
65c31c No.4510391
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. CLASSIC SONG FROM LIKE 1979!
You'll never forget it if you love Rock.
Stained glass windows keep the cold outside
While the hypocrites hide inside
With the lies of statues in their minds
Where the Christian religion made them blind
Where they hide
And prey to the God of a bitch spelled backwards is dog
Not for one race, one creed, one world
But for money
Effective
Absurd
Do you pray to the Holy Ghost when you suck your host
Do you read who's dead in the Irish Post
Do you give away the cash you can't afford
On bended knees and pray to lord Fat pig priest
Sanctimonious smiles
He takes the money
You take the lies
This is religion and Jesus Christ
This is religion cheaply priced
This is bibles full of libel
This is sin in eternal hymn
This is what they've done
This is your religion
The apostles were eleven
Now there's a sod in Heaven
This is religion
There's a liar on the altar
The sermon never falter
This is religion
Your religion
4da24a No.4510463
I had heard bits and pieces of Kim Clements prophecies. But I had never heard the 2007 where he calls trump by name and breaks down what the election will be like then his Presidency.
I had no idea is 2014 video covered the plan, Calls it that by name. The great awakening calls that by name, Draining the swamp calls it that by name. And even cover is Obama…
If any of you missed it as I have, here are some links.
WWG1WGA
https://youtu.be/7xwK3rKfrOY
https://youtu.be/xZxv-0LxG_A
https://youtu.be/J7e5Rgv-yxU
https://youtu.be/nG9hIMVtN04
https://youtu.be/LiKIn1REnxQ
https://youtu.be/ghocqUPROBI
https://youtu.be/M0604wQoOlU
https://youtu.be/xv48mrW8u6E
https://youtu.be/Xqae12Otunk
https://youtu.be/0JNeYxHQuH8
https://youtu.be/but52StumbA
https://youtu.be/T3iB2dFY0VY
Hope You Enjoy, thankQ
65c31c No.4510525
>>4510391
Words are LP version - song sung is Live so slightly different.
This was huge in GB, IR, NL, DK, etc when it came out and banned like most Sex Pistols songs from airplay.
Broadcast on Sky TV mid 80s when I lived in NL…
EU lets the "F" word and others on TV and is normal. Same as showing dredded tits! But US its illegal? US knows nothing about freedom. Why can bars stay open 24/7 in 90% of nations, but US closes bars at 2am? Are you sure you are "Free" as you think? they only tell you when you can drink and controls what words you can/can't sayy….
070dfa No.4513697
>>4510391
>>4510525
A new approach with
new material —
And so so so urgent you make it
Songs spewing evil
Presented as wisdom?
WHO controls the songs
Of HOLLYWOOD
record producers?
Who works under contract for them?
Who do they worship?
…. And of course throw in some more Illuminati stars & .com junk files, from who? Kim Clement. A false prophet with a long list of "prophecies" that never came true — The #1 sign of a false prophet according to God, although he raked in a lot of money, just like the others, mixing truth with lies.
And how hard would it be if you're being fed the playbook of moves and countermoves in advance? They plan in advance. Have you not learned that?
He died not too long ago, at 60, and then they claimed he was "in the presence of the Lord," and had received his reward.
More lies. According to the Word of God, you sleep in the ground until the Lord comes back, and it is then that the Lord will hand out rewards, both to the lawless ones and to those who trust in him.
WHO's really posting here?
Do your own research.
Don't let anybody drive you.
====
GOD is NOT a religion
He never ever was
He is not today,
and will never be.
The GOOD NEWS WILL STAND
FOREVER
=============
Why don't you bring
The GOOD NEWS?
Evil has many faces
Know your enemy
TRUST GOD ONLY
43551c No.4513701
21-Day Intense Final Watch Before Blood Moon Jan 2019 Rapture at Twilight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWoqeCeJ5Pg
43551c No.4513735
On Trump's watch. Trust God's plan. 4G/5G: Why the Dramatic Increase In Strokes Among the Youth? https://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/why-the-dramatic-increase-in-strokes-among-the-youth/
43551c No.4513746
On Trump's watch. Trust God's plan. Report: Opioid Related Deaths Among Youths Nearly Tripled In 18 Years https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/28/opioid-deaths-youths-triple/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter
070dfa No.4513822
>>4513701
How many blood moons and fake "rapture" dates have they advertised and made money off of? And movies? And books? All lies.
The WORD days only the Father knows the time. Why do you spread propaganda and lies in the name of the Lord?
You got the fear and hype but
WHERE'S THE GOOD NEWS?
Why do you insistently leave that out?
43551c No.4514062
>>4513822
>How many blood moons and fake "rapture" dates…
2 Pe 3:4, Jud 18
070dfa No.4514087
>>4513735
>>4513746
Trump's watch?
Trump works for the Lord
You are a shill/bot who works for a socialist pig who is trying to kill and enslave as many of us as possible.
ON THE DEEP STATE
GLOBALIST'S WATCH
(your boss)
How much poison down our throats?
How many Chem dumps in our air, food and water supply?
How many prescription drugs and "health" supplements to alter our microbiology and DNA to cause death and destruction of our bodies?
How many vaccines are harming and killing our children?
How many false flags
and deaths?
For how long?
And you come on Qresearch to blame Trump in office since 1/20/2017 for stroked in kids.
You Stupid Socialist Pig.
GTFO
070dfa No.4514168
>>4514062
Only the Father knows.
No matter what bs you try to spread.
Only the Father knows.
Again,
WHERE'S THE GOOD NEWS.
And all of the warnings from God to his children?
You croak on that part don't you shill.
43551c No.4514199
>>4514087
> you come on Qresearch to blame Trump
"The buck stops with me…" 57 States
070dfa No.4514329
>>4514199
You don't have anything in your shillbot bank about the GOOD NEWS do you?
Just nonsensical gibberish
b084ef No.4514383
THE BOARD IS BACK UP.
Last night will forever be known as the..
MOSSAD MASSACRE
we fucked u shills up last night in the General breads. It sure was fun.
Now ur already back to bickershilling here? Yawn.
070dfa No.4515238
>>4514383
You're as much as an inane idiot as 43551c is a stupid socialist pig shill.
The target is POTUS
And his supporters/Patriots
Because he's destroying them
And it's because the Patriots are notifying the world, that they are here.
You're just a dumb ignorant liddle dumbass helper to them over there, and here too, because you push worthless theories that go against what God says.
You aide who you think you destroy.
That's how stupid you are, genius.
You are assisting the enemy.
7b9727 No.4516233
Jesus Historicity
http://www.astrotheologyzone.com/tony-bushby.html
d485b8 No.4517277
>>4514383
and proof the shills were located in tel aviv
https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4515751.html#4515933
43551c No.4521211
TM, New Age Hinduism, 7 Chakras, The Third Eye: The Real Truth About The 3rd Eye - 7 Chakras - Reiki & TM! Warn Others ! Minister Paul https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUA16wVgQ_c
Dangers of Yoga! There Is No Such Thing as "Christian" Yoga! Motivating U2Win https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUBACABWx0Y&t
070dfa No.4521510
>>4521211
>>4521211
>>4521211
>>4521211
Don't go on these sites.
Don't channel evil.
Listen to God not shillbot # 43551c.
Where's the GOOD NEWS and Scriptures on false teachings shillbot?
Instead you direct by agenda to evil.
SOCIALIST ATHEIST PIG AT WORK
GTFO
43551c No.4521747
On Sodomite Trump's watch. Trust God's plan.
The wickedness of Sodom ([Ex 20:14] heterosexual [Lev. 20:10–12] or homosexual [Lev. 20:10,13]) was notorious (Gen. 13:13).
Sodomite Navy 'couple' recreate the iconic New York WWII kiss https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6537905/Gay-Navy-couple-recreate-iconic-New-York-WWII-kiss-face-brutal-backlash.html
070dfa No.4522022
>>4517277
You probably are:
a) one of them; or,
b) a human with no ability to think on your own, such as explained below.
>>4514383
You ara nothing but an OP shitposter who shits up the bread all over board.
With your ignorant and severely limited thinking, you equate all "Jews" as enemy #1, and then you make a high dive into the shill shit trap, which you drive drive drive, the same as destroyed 4chan.
You are too stupid to acknowledge and have no perception of the SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN, and who the members are that are the shills and bots and clowns attacking 8chan.
Here's a short list for you retard:
Satanic Atheist Goyim Socialists Cabal Illuminati Zionist Stalinists Nazis JIDF Globalist Clowns — all who are incidentally POTUS, Potus supporters and God haters who attack this board from all over the world, not limited to Tel Avi, and certainly not inclusive to "Jews."
Not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionist are Cabal, and Satanic Goyim are also the enemies attacking.
You think like, and have the know-it-all mentality of a 14 year old teenie booper who operates out of sheer arrogance, ignorance and stupidity, and you run in a pack flinging shit everywhere you go.
What further amazes me is that you OP have the gall to start a "biblefag" thread, and you don't even know what the Synagogue of Satan encompasses.
CHURCH OF SATAN and that GOD'S chosen people will never be "unchosen."
You curse them, you are cursed.
Read those Scriptures idiot.
KNOW YOUR ENEMY
TRUST GOD ONLY
6173fd No.4522200
>>4504822
I trust God in Christ to be against indwelling sin and evil present within everyone, ALL of which is of the devil, not the person. 1 John 3:8
You want to TRUMPet the Word? Then take "every Word," not just the half that you like. Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4
WHEN we take in every Word, we'll find both good and evil in ourselves, and God in Christ being for FOR us, and AGAINST evil/sin.
Simple lesson on every Word.
All believers like to baste themselves with only the good stuff. That is a sign of internal deception and theft by SATAN. The Word doesn't even blame and accuse you for such blindness. The Word puts the hammer unto whom it belongs, the spiritual adversaries.
To understand, all the parties to the drama have to be on the table for viewing.
Scriptures do not see just man or just a person. Scripture sees the person, the child of God AND the spiritual adversaries that ALL of us bear internally and deal with constantly.
Picture a Sword, cutting us in HALF. One side of God's Word is for us, the other against our adversaries, who happen to be in the same shoes.
The more this fact is lifted up, the MORE the adversaries RESIST in the person. The sun/Son shines on both GOOD and EVIL, the just and the WICKED.
When we read of the wise man and the fool, BOTH parts apply to US, not just the HALF part of the good that we are falsely led to tickle our ears with.
Condemnation, Adverse Judgment and Damnation in God's Word is JUST AS VALUABLE.
6173fd No.4522391
>>4502543
Here's a simple lesson on how to read and understand the basis of Word/scriptures.
When we read scriptures such as:
Mark 4:
15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.
We should easily be able to recognize in the above there is the person and there is the adversary, Satan, attacking/stealing internally in the person.
Do you see just another person? If you do, you've been stolen from.
If you think that Word is only to some other person, again, internal theft.
That person is YOU and the ADVERSARY.
Every Word of God APPLIES to everyone. Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4
Did Paul teach the same things? Absolutely!
2 Cor. 4:4
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them
Same set of questions. Do you see only the person? That person is YOU and the ADVERSARY. But because YOU do not see TWO PARTIES and think it's about someone else, you are technically an UNBELIEVER of that presentation of THE WORD and have been STOLEN FROM by the adversary blinding your OWN MIND.
Eph. 2:
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Same set of questions. Do you see only a person, OR do we see accurately, that scripture addresses the person AND the spiritual adversary in/upon the person, which of course would be the devil, Satan, and his little seeds planted in your own sorry hide.
Recognize your CURRENT STATE as Paul did:
Romans 7:
17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Al least Paul was honest about it, thankfully.
No dishonest person, a person BLINDED to the half of the Gospel they DON'T WANT OR LIKE TO HEAR by the god of this world, will ever HEAR Every Word of God and apply it personally.
Yes Virginia, God IS against the EVIL PRESENT in you and in everyone else, regardless of how much religious whitewash we paste upon the flesh.
09358a No.4522989
Have you ever noticed how insane people CAPITALIZE every OTHER word?
94c57c No.4523055
Muh jew shill tactic:
Look here → joooos, only joooos, every joooo
Do NOT look here → worldwide cabal, ruling families, Freemasons, other masonic orders, Killary&Hussein&Administration, China ,SA, Iran, global terrorism, thinktanks, political advisers, actors, musicians, judges, doctors, fake news reporters, …
They want you DIVIDED.
DIVIDED by RACE.
DIVIDED by RELIGION.
DIVIDED by CULTURE.
DIVIDED by CLASS.
DIVIDED by POLITICAL AFFILIATION.
DIVIDED YOU ARE WEAK.
TOGETHER YOU ARE STRONG.
WE, THE PEOPLE.
WWG1WGA!
Q
94c57c No.4523152
Why are we here?
Why are we providing crumbs?
Think MEMO.
BUILDING THE ARMY.
Not convinced this is spreading?
You, the PEOPLE, have THE POWER.
You, the PEOPLE, just forgot how to PLAY.
TOGETHER you are STRONG.
APART you are weak.
THEY WANT YOU DIVIDED.
THEY WANT RACE WARS.
THEY WANT CLASS WARS.
THEY WANT RELIGIOUS WARS.
THEY WANT POLITICAL WARS.
THEY WANT YOU DIVIDED!
LEARN!
FOR GOD & COUNTRY - LEARN!
STAY STRONG.
STAY TOGETHER.
FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT.
This is more important than you can imagine.
Q
6173fd No.4523724
>>4522989
Turning up the VOLUME doesn't mean you'll hear, does it?
FAct is, the opposite/opposer hears and resists like a common puppet, between your own two ears.
94c57c No.4523793
Since this is a bible thread…
a thought.
In former times, 2,000 years back, the Lord's one son - the Lord himself - had to reach people by travelling a lot and talking to as many folks as possible, to convince them and make them follow him.
What modern improvement for reaching 'we, the people' would be used today?
8c6ded No.4524889
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Lets not forget about Snoopy's Holiday Song!
9ada98 No.4525481
>>4524889
GAY…no, let's forget!
9ada98 No.4525500
>>4522989
Exactly. (((you)))
070dfa No.4525703
>>4522200
That is not a teaching from GOD.
You have deluded yourself and choose to make up and blame "indwelling sin" and reject God's truth on the matter and lead others astray.
Where is the GOOD NEWS
liar shill shitposter?
=============
GOD says this about temptation and sin:
James 1:13-16
No one being tempted should say,
"I am being tempted by God."
For God cannot be tempted by evil, and God himself tempts no one.
Rather, each person is being tempted whenever he is dragged off and enticed by the bait of his own desire. Then, having conceived, the desire gives birth to sin: and when sin is fully grown, it gives birth to death.
Don't delude yourselves, my dear brothers.
==
You are a false teacher and have been shown a liar.
070dfa No.4525774
>>4522391
>>4522200
>>4522989
>>4523055
>>4523152
>>4523724
>>4523793
>>4524889
Behold the ASSHOLE SHILL BOT
VISITORS FOR TODAY
(hope you can handle the caps asswipes pasta shitposters)
6173fd No.4526743
>>4525774
What is it you're after again?
Oh yeah. Saturday sabbath. And everyone who doesn't believe like you is going to burn alive forever.
IN other words, a typical yawner, sleeping at the wheel, claiming to be what? A christian? lol
03e10c No.4526855
I'm a Hippy liberal paganfag… but WWG1WGA I moved to America and gained citizenship thru enlistment into the marine corps infantry, 03311/7 and 2/7. I've ALWAYS voted green or bleu.. for the first time in 2016 I bloody well voted red and will continue doing so until these Democrat cunts stop trying to push socialism. I'm in bloody America for a reason! Gods provide harbour she protection over trump and the q team! I'm proud to be green, proud to call Donald j trump MY PRESIDENT, (even tho I strongly disagree with opening national parks to oil drilling in Alaska And opposed to the standing rock decision) most of all I'm proud to be a LEGAL citizen AND AMERICAN!
43551c No.4527048
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Ro 3:23)
But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us (Ro 5:8)
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord (Ro 6:23)
If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved (Ro 10:9)
For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Ro 10:13
Chris Tomlin - Good Good Father https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqybaIesbuA
43551c No.4527205
>>4514329
>Just nonsensical gibberish
…To the reprobate (Eph. 4:18).
43551c No.4527341
And He said, “Go, and tell this people:
‘Keep on hearing, but do not understand;
Keep on seeing, but do not perceive.’
“Make the heart of this people dull,
And their ears heavy,
And shut their eyes;
Lest they see with their eyes,
And hear with their ears,
And understand with their heart,
And return and be healed.” Is 6:9–10
43551c No.4527413
They do not know nor understand;
For He has shut their eyes, so that they cannot see,
And their hearts, so that they cannot understand.
And no one considers in his heart,
Nor is there knowledge nor understanding to say,
“I have burned half of it in the fire,
Yes, I have also baked bread on its coals;
I have roasted meat and eaten it;
And shall I make the rest of it an abomination?
Shall I fall down before a block of wood?”
He feeds on ashes;
A deceived heart has turned him aside;
And he cannot deliver his soul,
Nor say, “Is there not a lie in my right hand?” Is 44:18–20
070dfa No.4527490
>>4526743
No shill, once again you make shit up to fit your pathetic narrative.
GOD'S WORD, who is
The KING of the SHABBAT,
speaks for itself.
Try reading that for a change.
The Roman's didn't pass the 321ad "Sunday" Law for no reason
and GOD didn't say to
REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY
AND KEEP IT HOLY for no reason either.
And GOD'S calendar refers to Shabbat as on the 7th day, not Saturday, the Roman calendar day named for worshipping "saturn."
Another indoctrination to keep us stupid blind sheep. GOD created the 7th Day at creation, a holy and special day to be "in his rest." He says it's a sign we are his. What is the sign of Sunday?
Sun worship.
Does man, or the Roman Empire, or Satan for that matter, have the authority to make unholy what GOD has made holy? Or to do away with the 4th Commandment, that is the sign between us, that we are His?
The knowledge is there, the choice to know it yours.
Know who the enemy is.
Know who you follow.
TRUST GOD ONLY
43551c No.4527806
But when He saw the multitudes, He was moved with compassion for them, because they were weary and scattered, like sheep having no shepherd (Mt 9:36).
070dfa No.4527880
>>4526743
What I claim is to love and trust the Lord and seek him with my heart. Everything else is provided to me through his great mercy, compassion and promises.
The early believers followed "The Way." That's what believing in and trusting Yeshua as our Messiah was referred to in the start. "Christian" was not originally used. And frankly, I qualify the use of that word when someone tries to apply it to me, considering all the fake Christians and the corrupt churches who toss their members into that category.
You've read the scripture, I'm sure, where lip service and hypocrites are accredited for the reason God is insulted and mocked all day long, haven't you?
God is not a religion
Lose your indoctrination
Lose your labels and man-made definitionsyou use to assault one another and people you know nothing about. Only God knows the hearts of men.
43551c No.4527955
“The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath.” Mk 2:27–28
43551c No.4528043
>>4527880
> Only God knows the hearts of men.
“We are fruit inspectors.” ~ J. Vernon McGee
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them (Mt 7:15–20).
8c6ded No.4528215
>>4526855
Muslim who needs to kneel 6 times a day, 6 days a week…. No wonder towelheadz don't have money or jobs, as they need to stop everyones life 6 times a day to pray on their carpets…
Guess they want the US to be like middleeast, and if you drive or walk during the loudspeaker prayer on every street corner during call to prayer, they can legally kill that person for disrepect…
Oh my - if you love the US and freedom - please go back to where you came from and keep your filth contained…
Photo is what they do if you disrepect Ala
9ada98 No.4528345
>>4528215
WHAT A JOKE! THIS WILL NEVER CHANGE…WTFU blah blah blah on we go…we are done
8c6ded No.4528346
>>4528043
God never gave the power or asked anyone to defend him, yet the false prophets ram down everyones throat to believe their devil words - which we all know, God said not to follow. So may I ask when God gave you his heavenly powers to judge other humans on his behalf?
Also, if you follow the bible, it states everyone needs to provide cover and take in all they can to the less fortune… So how many people do faithful ones have inside their homes, and give food and shelter? None? Well then you are pure Evil, not doing all one can to their fellow man…
Again, how many children have the faithful ones adopt and raise and support as their own? None? Well then, again, you failed to follow Gods words in the bible. Yet you have a nice home, food, job, and a savings account, so the faithful false prophet preachers "select" whatever they way to follow, and ignore other words in the bible - making them false prophets.
So what Godly power granted you his heavenly powers to judge fellow humans on his behalf? He didn't know did he, so you serving Evil by speaking for God himself, without his blessings.
Oh so many false prophets who took it upon themselves to preach for evil, and for God without his blessings. Remember, Evil knows all words and versus just as much as God himself, and uses his false interpritations to sway the lost mindless sheep from him comfort and safety.
8c6ded No.4528379
>>4528345
REMEMBER - "THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE". So how do you love your chains and having to sway faithful into your dark agenda? Do you need to swap your evil soul for a unexpected faithful one so you can being Heavenly again? But then again, you will have sinned once again for your recruiting lost weak souls from God, to your evil dark.
8c6ded No.4528430
>>4528345
Guilty of selling your very soul to the Devil and have regrets for following fake false prophets… The devil in sheep's clothing is your your very deepest soul now isn't it? We know about pure evil and you each are so brainwashed, you can't comprehend you have the Devils mark in your actions…
2a9e49 No.4528752
>>4528346
are you familiar with geo fencing?
that pic is a classic example of what geo fencing is. the cattle are only allowed in that area under some form of zap if they are to near the fence limits. simple to do really. mark your area put the cattle in and close the gate all without wire. chipped and controlled cattle
as for god… i believe he said judge righteous judgement lest ye be judged.
some of us actually have balls…
some of us know our names are written in the lambs book of life…
as for me and my house we will serve the lord…
you may follow whosoever you will, but i ask you one question, if the bible is right and the devil and his followers lose, are you willing to be on the wrong side? why do i ask? well, you could find yourself standing in the lake of fire, maybe even next to me. are you prepared for that? thus jesus christ is the way out and the only way out… if the bible is true.
cheers and have ahappy new year
6173fd No.4529116
>>4527490
Exodus 20:
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Same LAW from Paul, no conflicts:
Romans 13:
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Somehow when it got to you the COMMAND got turned into a deadly weapon of mass destruction.
But then again, that's what Satan does, IN MAN.
Romans 13:
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
You're not alone of course. 99% of the people sitting in church pews think that nearly everyone but themselves is going to burn alive forever…but then again,
That's what Satan does IN MAN, particularly in religious folks. Mark 4:15, because they are more exposed to The Word, therefore the resistance movement against God's Command takes them captive, and their last state is worse the the first.
Good luck diggin yer way out
070dfa No.4530292
>>4529116
T r y r e a l h a r d
t o p a y a t t e n t I o n.
The F-o-r-t-h Commandment
is n-o-t about legalism and the abuses and perversions over "law" that Paul was speaking about. It's entirely about a Holy Day God created and made holy for us to be with him, to be in his rest. Not to follow "laws." There's a difference. It's a sign. Signs in the Scriptures are not "laws," they are signs. Is Paul talking about doing away with GOD'S sign we are his? No. Did Paul keep the Shabbat and teach every Shabbat until he died? Yes. Did the early church keep the Shabbat holy and honor it? Yes.
It's a sign forever.
Did God change it? No.
Malachi 3:6
"But because I, Adonai, do not change, you sons of Ya'akov (Jacob) will not be destroyed."
Hebrews 13:8
Yeshua the Messiah is the same yesterday, today and forever.
Genesis 2:3
God blessed the seventh day and separated it as holy…
Exodus 31:13
"You are to observe my Shabbat, for this is a sign between me and you through all generations; so that you will know that I am Adonai, who sets you apart for me…"to observe through all their generations as a perpetual covenant"
Ezekiel 20:12
I gave them my shabbats as a sign between me and them, so that they would know that I, Adonai, am the one that makes them holy. (who sets them apart).
Con't.
070dfa No.4530318
>>4529116
Paul's Shabbat teachings on
Entering God's Rest
Acts 17:2
Paul came to Thessalononica, where there was a synagogue. According to his usual practice, Paul went in; and on three Shabbats he gave them crashes from the Tanakh, explaining and proving that the Messiah had to suffer and rise again from the dead…
Acts 18:4
Paul also began carrying on discussions every Shabbat in the synagogue…
Hebrews 4:1-5
Therefore, let us be terrified of the possibility that, even though the promise of entering his rest remains, any one of you might be judged to have fallen short of it; for Good News has also been proclaimed to us, just as it was to them. But the message they heard didn't do them any good, because those who heard it did not combine it with trust. For it is we who have trusted who enter the rest.
It is just as he said,
"And in my anger, I swore
that they would not enter
my rest. (Psalm 95:11)
He swore this even though his works have been in existence since the founding of the universe. For there is a place where it is said, concerning the seventh day,
"And God rested on the seventh day
from all his works." (Genesis 2:2)
And once more, our present text says,
"They will not enter my rest."
(Psalms 95:11)
Hebrews 4:9-11
So there remains a Shabbat-keeping for God's people. For the one who has entered God's rest has also rested from his own works, as did God did from his. Therefore, let us do our best to enter that rest; so that no one will fall short because of that same kind of disobedience.
So are we God's people?
Does a Shabbat rest remain?
b44216 No.4530625
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>4438539
NEVER FORGET - WE FIGHT FOR TRUTH!
"Trust But Verify" what you read - so where's the "verify in 8ch Trust?
Love to All and ask for Factual Evidence….
6173fd No.4530925
>>4530318
Cut to the chase. IF anyone doesn't do the "SABBATH" as you (Lord only knows how) propose, are they all going to burn alive forever?
Sick of you dancing around the head of a pin point
070dfa No.4531332
>>4529116
Paul on who will not enter God's rest.
(Re: Hebrews 4:1) >>4530318
Hebrews 3:12
Watch out brothers, so that there will not be in any one of you an evil heart lacking trust, which could lead you to apostatize from the living God! Instead, keep exhorting each other every day, as long as it is called Today, so that none of you will become hardened by the deceit if sin. For we have because sharers in the Messiah, provided, however, that we hold firmly to the conviction we began with, right through until the goal is reached.
Now where it says,
"Today, if you hear God's voice,
don't harden your hearts, as you
did in the Bitter Quarrel."
(Psalms 95:7-8)
who were the people who, after they heard, quarreled so bitterly? All those whom Moshe brought out of Egypt. And with whom was God disgusted for forty years? Those who sinned — yes, they fell dead in the Wilderness! And to whom was it that he swore that they would not enter his rest? Those who were disobedient. So see that they were unable to enter because of lack of trust.
========
Psalms 40:5
How blessed is the man who trusts in Adonai and does not look to the arrogant or those who rely on things that are false.
Psalms 119:
9. How can a young man keep his way pure? By guarding it according to your word.
10. I seek you with all my heart;
don't let me stray from your mitzvot.
11. I treasure your word in my heart,
so that I won't sin against you.
12. Blessed are you Adonai!
Teach me your laws….
15. I will meditate on your precepts and keep my eyes on your ways.
070dfa No.4531458
>>4530925
Go read and study God's word.
Ask him to show you the truth.
Ask him. He is there.
Lord knows I've tried to show you by posting his Scriptures word for word.
But there is plenty more.
Lord of the SABBATH and
the 32ad Sunday Law
enacted by the Roman Empire
to Genocide God's people who
kept God's Shabbat (that is seven in every language on earth)
should clue you up
as to how we got to today.
More lies from
the father of lies
070dfa No.4531544
>>4530925
That's 321 ad, sorry for the typo
Constantine did it with the Roman church. They threw out and/or hid many of God's Books. Funny, Hollywood is trying to throw out the Bible today too.
Satan at work.
Early followers for almost 300 years kept God's Sabbath.
Know your enemy
Recognize him.
It's not a game.
070dfa No.4531765
>>4530925
I keep seeing it said over and over, if you love God, you'll keep his commands.
Try to figure out the implications of that because the teachings of today are men teaching their doctrines as God's doctrines. Look who's on the pulpits.
They trick people by mixing lies with truth and many just believe whatever they want. It's all been prophesized. God tells us exactly how to spot false teachers. He has a lot to say about that, and it does not result in a good outcome for those who break with his Ways to follow some lie.
This bread is a perfect example of lost confused people relying on .com and foreign spirits. In fact, they prefer to go there rather than to ask God to give them knowledge.
Revelation 14:9
Another angel, a third one, followed them and said in a loud voice, "If anyone worships the beast and it's image and received the mark on his forehead or on his hand, he will indeed drink the wine of God's fury poured undiluted into the cup of his rage…."
This is when perseverance is needed on the part of God's people,
those who observe his commands and exercise Yeshua's faithfulness
070dfa No.4532125
>>4530925
I should tell you this, and anyone else, as a witness to God's endless love, mercy and understanding.
This was very hard for me. I found out in 2007. It was a shock, because I didn't know how to proceed with the information, and I was extremely pissed knowing my parents and grandparents had all been lied to. The whole world—
I had to ask God, not only what Shabbat was, but what I should do. I was working for attorneys 50-60 hrs a week. I worked on Saturday a lot. I had kids to feed. I kept reading the Word and praying about it.There is one scripture that comforted me about a man who loved God but he was forced to go into a pagan temple. He asked God to pardon him. So, I asked God to pardon me. Eventually, I adjusted to overtime after sunset Saturday, and on Sunday, which is actually the first day of our work week. I tried to just read the Word all day and be with God. That was amazing within itself. I learned to prepare in advance- God gives us 6 days to work and Shabbat starts at sundown on Friday. I switched employment to a large corporation but marked Saturday as a day I was unable to work… Sure enough they tried to do mandatory OT on me for Saturday. I had to fight that on grounds I keep the Shabbat (though I was not Jewish) and had been hired with fully disclosing I was unavailable on Saturday on the application. God always protected me, and he used me up against tyrants. That was amazing too. I retired in 2014, but I still have conflicts, like when my grandson comes to visit on Saturday… Yeshua also helps, like when he fought over them trying to kill him because he was healing people on Shabbat and when theey picked wheat. (That is the "law" bs). So, I try to go by his standard, that it is good to do good on Shabbat, but I do fall short. We are humans, we fall short. But in God's mercy, he forgives me, and he knows my heart and he loves us!.
So fear not. Ask God. Pray for direction, and Trust the Lord, and you will be blessed beyond anything you have ever experienced. There remains a Sabbath-keeping for God's people!!!and it is a beautiful thing.
6173fd No.4533759
Having assessed the law including Saturday sabbath, I determined several decades ago from scripture that the sin and evil present with me was not getting off the hook by hiding under any guise of protection, including Sabbath.
Simple lesson in honesty. Jesus hated hypocrites, especially of the religious ilk.
There is nothing wrong with Sabbath observations or not murdering or not stealing, but if we do not love our neighbors as ourselves none of it means jack.
People kill people in 2 ways over doctrines or religious understandings. The first method is internal killing of neighbors, by committing them to burn alive forever for (whatever reasons.) In it's more severe form they physically kill others, as we saw in the dark age churches.
I don't chase God for blessings any longer. It's a waste of time and extreme deception, in light of the reality of the condition of the flesh.
Any notions of "we do X according to the scriptures" and God is forced to bless us or be merciful or kind or any other good thing is an everyday common lie trumpted from every lying pulpit to the masses of consumers who are all to eager to buy into it to benefit themselves.
God's Hatred is much more appealing to me.
And much closer to the facts of scripture to boot.
God Has Two Eyes.
He Loves All.
He Hates the same ALL.
The question is WHY on the later count. And for that, the scriptural answer is quite obvious.
Romans 8:10
And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
No one is getting past the obvious. No, not one.
The only REST (((that will arrive))) is when sin, evil and death are put off, and out of the picture for ALL PEOPLE.
Until then, it's all baloney mix, which brings a current requirement to guard up.
Half of everyone is meant for the chopping block. Whether we see it or not probably doesn't matter much other than it helps to not be a pawn of that working which will ultimately be utterly destroyed by God in Christ.
Rev. 21:
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Anyone who thinks they have found rest while the entirety of humanity and creation wallows in sin, evil, sorrow, crying, pain and death is smoking religious crack.
6173fd No.4533885
>>4528215
Seriously, sick fucks.
The sand nigger version of God can kiss my ass. Any who do this kind of thing should be hunted down, and killed for the demonic human killing predators they are.
When the world is full of religious adherents who believe other people are going to burn alive forever, it's a real short hop to mere killing of the body (after gang raping, of course).
John 16:
2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
Fortunately we employ "others" to do our dirtier work, like killing killers.
No amount of pubic religious yodeling on loudspeakers is going to change anyone. It just pours gas on the fire.
When God said "thou shalt not kill" half the world rose up, to resist that law. Funny how that works, if it wasn't such a sad reality.
What the hell were those girls and their families thinking, to go hiking in the middle of these asshats??? They are fucking crazy.
Liberals are seriously messed up in the head as well. Ask for predation, receive.
6173fd No.4533973
>>4528346
Don't you realize that you are doing exactly what you are chiding others for? It's called circular logic, senseless logic:
You: "Again, how many children have the faithful ones adopt and raise and support as their own? None? Well then, again, you failed to follow Gods words in the bible. Yet you have a nice home, food, job, and a savings account, so the faithful false prophet preachers "select" whatever they way to follow, and ignore other words in the bible - making them false prophets.
So what Godly power granted you his heavenly powers to judge fellow humans on his behalf?: " /
He sez, whilst simultaneously reeking in judgments.
Let's observe that half the world is evil, and the other half works to cover up their own evil.
It's a much more accurate picture.
1 John 5:19
And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
Both halves of that picture above are true for EVERYONE.
IF christians were really honest, there would be a lot less of them:
Romans 7:
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Paul terms the practice, "accusing and excusing." Accuse others while excusing self/group. It's a wicked little game that people's heads play with them, religious or not.
Romans 2:
5 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
Pauline honesty is much more refreshing. When he did good, he understood that evil was still present with him, that sin still dwelt in his own sorry hide, that his sin was of the devil, and that there was no excuses available, for anyone.
Romans 3:19
Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
No exceptions. No, not one.
43551c No.4534241
>>4528346
>when God gave you his heavenly powers to judge other humans on his behalf?
Judge Rightly Is Not Some Guy's Name Bob Enyart http://kgov.com/should-christians-judge
43551c No.4534251
>>4529116
>Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
We don't have a Sabbath day. We have a Sabbath Lord. Mk 2:27-28
43551c No.4534265
>>4530292
>It's a sign forever.
>Did God change it? No.
One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind (Ro 14:5).
“Legalism: when your preference becomes my obligation.” ~ Gino Geraci
43551c No.4534413
>>4530318
>Does a Shabbat rest remain?
Rest in him.
Understand the difference between moral law and ceremonial law. http://kgov.com/an-overview-of-the-bible
43551c No.4534458
"Ritualism is nothing more than a rut and the only difference between a rut and a grave is the length and the depth." ~ Chuck Smith
43551c No.4534505
>>4438567
https://www.gotquestions.org/Q-Gospel.html
cb8f5e No.4534746
>>4444852
This, Brother, this. Amen!!
070dfa No.4535919
>>4534265
That is not talking about the sign of the Fourth Commandment, context is about men's made up days and wounding their conscience.
God did not change the 7th day, or the 4th Commandment. Yeshua is the Lord of the Sabbath and that will never change regardless of what you tell yourselves. The Messiah upheld the Torah.
GOD DOESN'T LIE
HE DIDN'T CHANGE IT
Daniel 7:23
He will speak words against the Most High and try to exhaust the holy ones of the Most High.
>>He will attempt to alter the seasons and the law>>
>>4534413
Sabbath is neither of those things.
It's not a "moral" law
It's not a "ceremonial" law
It's a sign between God and an individual that you are his.
A sign that will set you apart.
A sign and mark —
(on your forehead, in your brain),
that both God angels can discern
Ask God
Trust God.
>>4534251
>We don't have a Sabbath day. We have a Sabbath Lord. Mk 2:27-28
Do you know how utterly stupid you sound? You add LIES to TRUTH
Revelation 19:13
…and the name by which he is called is, "THE WORD OF GOD"
Psalms 105:5
Remember the wonders he has done, his signs and his spoken rulings.
Psalms 119:160
The main thing about your word is that it's true; all your just rulings last forever.
Matthew 15:7-9 Yeshua speaking
…"Yesha'yahu was right when he prophesied about you,
'These people honor me with
their lips, but their hearts are
far away from me.
Their worship of me is useless,
because they teach man-made
rules as if they were doctrines '"
(Isaiah 29:13)
Matthew 24:35
Mark 13:32
"Heaven and earth will pass away but my words will never pass away.
Matthew 15:14 Yeshua speaking
…"Let them be. They are blind guides.
"When a blind man guides another blind man, both will fall into the pit."
Romans 11:32
Do not let yourselves be conformed to the standards of the 'olam hazeh
(last days)
[Sunday Law/church 321ad
Accepted all fornification/church]
Romans 16:17
I urge you brothers to watch out for those who cause divisions and put snares alongside the teaching in which you have been trained — keep away from them.
KNOW WHO YOU FOLLOW
TRUST GOD ONLY
43551c No.4536012
>>4535919 [Sabbath] men's made up days
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith (Mt 23:23).
God's moral law is perpetual and ongoing (Mt 5:18). When did God nail do not murder, do not commit adultery to the cross? Mal 4:4-6, Mt 24:14 http://kgov.com/bel/criminal-code
070dfa No.4536101
>>4534265
>>4534413
>>4534251
>>4533759
BEHOLD, TODAYS SHILLS AND FALSE TEACHERS THAT DRINK FROM THE CUP OF DEMONS
43551c No.4536148
>>4536101
Rest in him (Mk 2:27-28, Heb 10:25).
43551c No.4536168
https://www.gotquestions.org/Seventh-Day-Adventism.html
43551c No.4536186
>>4438567
https://www.gotquestions.org/gospel-of-Thomas.html
070dfa No.4536236
>>4536012
All you've done on this thread, (if you are human), is LIE and SHITPOST in the name of the LORD.
Fuckin paid Atheist Socialist Pig
43551c No.4536669
>>4533759
>There is nothing wrong with Sabbath observations or not murdering or not stealing, but if we do not love our neighbors as ourselves none of it means jack.
If you love your God (Mt 22:37) and your neighbor (v. 39), you do not murder or commit adultery. If you happen to murder or commit adultery, then we have a law for you. The law is for the lawless (1 Ti 1:9).*
*Unless you’re in America where child-killing, serial adulterers become President (Pr 8:36, Ex 20:14).
43551c No.4536907
First the Bema seat. Later, the Marriage Supper of the Lamb.
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad (2 Co 5:10).
Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready (Re 19:7).
070dfa No.4537223
>>4536669
You sound so butt hurt shill.
Got the Blue Shill digs?
Are you mad that America elected a President whose #1 boss is God?
Are you mad our President fights for God?
070dfa No.4537405
>>4536186
>>4536186
>>4536168
>>4534505
>>4534458
>>4534413
>>4534265
>>4534241
>>4533759
Your "Smart" (Stupid) knowledge
awaits you on .com download
inside your brain (joke joke)
OR in your "Bot/AI" made
Super Duper Guidance Systems.
All systems go, together.
You are now "self-saved,"
and "saving" everyone else
Denying GOD'S WORD and
Substituting it by MAN'S
Is the stumbling block
Of this Age.
WAKE UP
BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE
When the time comes,
Can't say God didn't warn you
6173fd No.4544676
>>4536669
Paul:
1 Timothy 1:9
Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
Paul:
1 Timothy 1:15
This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
Paul did not have any issues with the law being against the sin indwelling his own flesh, and the evil present with him.
He knew that there was NO WAY for these internal workings to be
Lawful. Ain't gonna happen.
Hence, Grace/Mercy
and rightful damnation to the devil and his messengers for ALL SIN. 1 John 3:8
Of course to come to this understanding one shouldn't expect devils in and upon their own sorry hides to agree.
Paul:
2 Cor. 12:7
And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
You see when you SEE this reality, the devil is at a disadvantage. When blinded however, the pawn has no clue of being pawned.
Paul
2 Corinthians 11:3
But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
IF anyone thinks they are not engaging the adversary within, and think their evil thoughts are merely their SELF, they are in fact deceived.
The SELF is not alone.
There is us, the individual, there is the adversary, and, for believers, we understand JESUS is in the midst or between the two parties.
Best to learn the differences.
6c3bdf No.4544813
>>4536669
What Paul says cannot contradict Jesus and be true. So, as Peter said " 16 He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. 17Therefore, beloved, since you already know these things, be on your guard so that you will not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure standing." Remember the words of Jesus and believe HIM, " 17Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. 18For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19So then, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever practices and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
6173fd No.4545045
>>4537405
Oh yeah, yer gunna get such a big reward for practicing the Sabbath, just like the other grubbers who are going to get a big reward for pronouncing the proper Hebrew name of Yeshua (or any number of given derivatives.)
Divine brown nosers might not get the reward they seek, particularly when constantly distributing threats of eternal burning hell to everyone who doesn't "do like they do."
Don't you know what you measure to others is the reward YOU GET? Didn't Haman teach you anything? Except instead of gallows they substitute eternal burning in hell.
"For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again."
43551c No.4549899
>>4544813
> [The law is for the lawless (1 Ti 1:9).] What Paul says cannot contradict Jesus and be true. So, as Peter said …
The scriptures are true (Ps 119:160, Jas 1:18). God's law is perpetual and ongoing (Mt 5:18). When did God nail do not murder, do not commit adultery to the cross? Mal 4:4-6, Mt 24:14
43551c No.4549947
>>4545045
>Oh yeah, yer gunna get such a big reward for practicing the Sabbath, just like the other grubbers who are going to get a big reward for pronouncing the proper Hebrew name of Yeshua (or any number of given derivatives.)
https://www.gotquestions.org/Hebrew-roots.html
6173fd No.4550286
>>4549947
Israel of the Old Testament is a picture of the first man, the man blinded by sin. The man, deceived by the wickedness of his own heart, thinking the man pleases God by following the law, or even by actions of good intentions. The blinded man thinks God does not see this reality for themselves:
Jer. 17:
9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Deceitful above "all things" is an exceptionally powerful statement. When we gaze upon the observable universe, and understand that within ourselves it is US who bear the deceiptful above all things, the desperately wicked, it is impossible to think ourselves as "legal or obedient." Thus, the deception that was upon Israel of the Old Testament.
Paul does tthrough great lengths to (gently) describe this condition. For example, in Romans 7 his discourse places the deceitfully wicked operating in his own mind in vs. 7-3, reacting in direct opposition to the law, "do not lust." Paul was being openly honest, showing deceitful and wicked within himself, in complete accordance with Jer. 17:9. Many of the O.T. prophets understood the same things about themselves, and decried their own darkness:
Job 42:6
Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.
Isaiah 6:5
Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts
The entire book of Lamentations revolves around Jerimiah dealing with his own darkness, and the darkness upon the nation of Israel.
What did Paul understand about these things, and about Israel. After he gets through dissecting his own sin indwelling his flesh, and the factual evil present within him, he launches into describing the condition of Israel, in Romans 9. And we have to pay close attention. Paul just finished trashing himself, in complete honesty and transparency in Romans 7.
6173fd No.4550291
lecture fagging, continued:
For Israel, Paul stated thusly:
Romans 9:
3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
Just as Paul alienated himself from the sin that dwelt in his flesh in Romans 7:17-21, he now shows this same state upon the blinded people of Israel. And concludes in vs. 18-24 the two vessels in the same lump called "me." One bound for glory via the receipt of God's Mercy, and the other, tolerated for the time, until their eventual destruction. Paul does the identical teaching in Gal. 4, summarizing in vs. 29.
So how was Israel blinded, and by whom?
In Romans 11:8 Paul stated clearly, citing from the Old Testament, that God Himself blinded them by placing the spirit of slumber upon them. By showing this placement Paul differentiates the people, whom God has not abandoned, from the spirit of slumber or stupor that was put upon them. Again, two vessels, the person and the spirit of slumber.
Only a remnant is left upon the earth at any given time to see this reality. The rest will be (spiritually) blinded, according to the purposes of God. They will not see their own evil, their wicked heart, the vessel of dishonor, that has come upon themselves. They will think it is only them between their own two ears. There eyes will not see the reality of their internal wickedness. They will stand under the law and think themselves off the hook for their sin and evil.
However, this clearly will not happen. God's Righteous Judgment is and remains against all sin and evil, in whomever it is found, and it is found in ALL.
Many of the more esoteric statements of Jesus can be easily and readily understood when we understand our current state in the flesh. For example, in order to be a disciple, according to Jesus, we have to hate ourselves. This of course brings and instant conundrum to the blinded, who falsely claim God in Christ only loves them. This assuredly is not the case. God's hatred remains upon the internal wickedness within all. And, He has quite purposefully put us, against our wills, into that position, which Paul shows in his summary in
Romans 11:
32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
So here, and everywhere where so called believers gather, they all prescribe the good things upon themselves, while fully and openly and totally ignorning the other side of God's Ledgers Words.
Paul's call by Jesus was to open people's eyes to the reality of darkness and the power of Satan upon their minds. Acts 26:18. Paul described the spiritually blinded as those who do not see that their darkness is in fact "of the devil" in their own minds. 2 Cor. 4:4, Eph. 2:2, even for himself in 2 Cor. 12:7.
Whether we accept the facts of scripture or not, to understand the scriptures we should understand that The Word addresses two separate and primary parties in the same person, two vessels.
Jesus gave us the key to understanding in Mark 4:13 and 15, identifying HOW people get blinded. When God sows His Word, Satan enters the mind/heart to deceive, to steal, to blind, to destroy.
And the open evidence of this blinding is actually exemplified in the believers themselves. They exonerate themselves for sin. They avoid any type of adverse judgments of God, turning God into a double dealer, only good to them but bad for others (see our Sabbath whiner here for example.) This is called hypocrisy. And they openly lie about their own sin/evil, falsely thinking they have none. And to top it off, the openly condemn people who do not believe like them to fry alive forever.
Not one of them realize that fate is meant for the spirit of slumber, the spirit of disobedience, that has descended upon themselves.
We'll all see clear enough, in the end, at the finale.
43551c No.4550295
On Trump's watch. Trust God's plan. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/12/muslim-doctor-fired-from-ohio-clinic-after-claiming-she-will-purposely-give-jewish-patients-wrong-medication/
070dfa No.4550972
>>4545045
>>4550286
>>4550291
To one of the biggest dumb fuck
Athiest Socialist Pigs on here:
Who gives a shit what you say?
Your plan is to remove truth
and belittle GOD'S PROMISES
and GOOD NEWS to his people.
We are made children of Abraham by our trusting. Our reward is thankfulness.
Fuck off God hater
GOD WINS
6173fd No.4551152
>>4550972
Titus 3:2
To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.
If you are ever granted the understanding and LOVE of God's Harsh Speaking to evil present and sin dwelling in the flesh, you'll have two feet, solidly planted in the dung of the earth, that is, your body.
Isaiah 37:31
And the remnant that is escaped of the house of Judah shall again take root downward, and bear fruit upward:
070dfa No.4551269
>>4551152
Fuck off God hater
You shit on God
You are to be removed
Deal with your own evilness
43551c No.4551286
Before she was in labor, she gave birth;
Before her pain came,
She delivered a male child (Is 66:7).
She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne (Re 12:4–5). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91wIm6X6WvM
6173fd No.4551518
>>4551269
Your every post, translated:
"I am justified and you are not."
One trick pony, commonly rode by feigning believers.
070dfa No.4551974
>>4551152
We are not required to cozy up to evil that insists good is evil, and evil is good, indeed, God vomits those out.
It's GOD'S very Word that shows you are a liar, as you teach your own opinions as truth, and lead others into your pit.
Why not let them go to God's Word for direct knowledge. Why do you block that path?
The answer is obvious.
You are a lie machine, a shill, and then you cry foul when your lies are exposed.
Therefore, when you attack me with your lies, I don't care, I expect it.
>>4551518
Because you error so much, you should go straight to God for translations.
Psalms 94:16
Who will champion my cause against the wicked? Who will stand up against evil doers?
Who hasn't been watered down and diluted by the waters of the world? Who doesn't work for the Satan's?
Whose cup do you drink from?
6173fd No.4552103
>>4551974
I'm inclinded to truthful Christians:
1 Timothy 1:15
This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
Liars and posers don't interest me much, other than to torment them with God's Word Facts.
070dfa No.4552368
>>4551518
>>4552103
Bahaha hahahahahahahahaha
Who are you marketing and propping up as a "truthful christain" these days?
Yourself???
==========
What does the true "service of God" require? Only that you proclaim the Word of God.
2 Timothy 4:1-4
I solemnly charge you before God and the Messiah Yeshua, who will judge the living and the dead when he appears and establishes his Kingdom: proclaim the Word! Be on hand with it whether the time seems right or not. Convict, censure and extort with unfailing patience and with teaching.
For the time is coming when people will not have patience for sound teaching, but will cater to their passions and gather around them teachers who say whatever their ears itch to hear. Yes, they will stop listening to the truth, but will turn aside to follow myths.
But you, remain steady in every situation, endure suffering, do the work that a proclaimer of the Good News should, and do everything your service to God requires.
=============
TRUST GOD ONLY
HE IS THE ONLY JUST ONE
43551c No.4552581
>>4551974
>We are not required to cozy up to evil that insists good is evil…
Without holiness no one will see the Lord (Heb 12:14).
070dfa No.4553041
>>4552103
See, you can't even be honest about that…..
You torment with your own made-up opinions that add to, subtract, and lie about God's Word, as you argue with the WORD!!
That is far far away from GOD'S truth
But that is your agenda,
And, that's what makes you a shitposting liar.
>>4552581
And you, bot or shill, whatever you are, love to post and hang bait with empty hooks.
There is nothing there.
just feedback bot action
babble, it always
circles back
on singular word,
or catch phrase.
So, either you are in a basement
and don't speak English,
or the bot company
you work for is lame.
This is evident in all your posts,
all of them, all of your posts
It's a peanut gallery.
There is never a comprehensive
response made, or any intelligence
to indicate you are human,
or in America.
Your bot fails you.
3f4502 No.4553232
>>4552581
Qp
This is how Pure evil works. You must "CONFORM" to their meaning of words and interpretations, or you are evil and wrong.
Remember, God gave everyone a Different "Plan" in their lives, yet the false self appointed "Prophets" are pure evil, and are doing the Devils work by trying to "Change" you and God's personal secret private plan, to their false prophet way. See how Pure Evil "UNDERMINDS" the very bible they say they follow? Ask how does any human know your and Gods plan in your life? They don't and the False Prophets do all they can to change the direction of this Gods plan you and God himself made between each other….
Anyone who needs to reply upon scripture versus does so for pure evil purposes. They are their "Interpretation" and is trying to force God loving ones to change what they see and think for Pure Evil purposes to Deceive the weak. Thats why when we all see Bible lunatic's their heads are brainwashed to only view things as they see them, yet fails to comprehend they are doing the Devils work without viewing in a 2nd point of view.
Like when 2 people stand side by side and look and describe the exact same tree. Each see's it totally different - as they are not in same eye line - thus you have 2 truthful views of the same tree, but from 2 angles. So branches in the back of the tree are slightly off then each other, and the clouds are slightly shifted in the background… Yet the Pure Evil prophets who want to explain their views as being the ONLY TRUTH, and person next to him is a pure Liar because they see it differently.
I am God and was created to be seen differently to everyone who accepts my Love. Do I have 1 blade on my beard greyer then when someone else sees me? Is the lenght longer or shorter then what someone else feels it should be? Well, the Gods truth is that one may have seen me 1 week or 1 month or 1 year earlier or later then each other. So one who see's God 1 year apart both are correct. One gets more grey and beard lenghts or cloths may have changed between experiences now couldn't they? Yet the False Devil Evil Prophets closed minds and words against fellow believers are viewed as Pure Evil. Like any human, over time, does everyone look exactly the same, wearing the exact same cloths say 1 or 5 years apart? Or does ones eye see 100% exactly the unaged person, or does one get viewed slightly differently and older?
So how can someone seeing the same person say 5 years apart, does anyone really look 100% exactly the same? No, as me being God, I grew up from a baby, to a boy, to a adult, so how can anyone seeing me at each stage of my life be correct, and is viewed in only one way? So who is wrong or right?
What false self imposed Prophets who speak my bible word as a human being, were never appointed by me, nor did I give anyone of them the power to speak and judge others on my behalf. That alone shows how Pure Evil uses lies for Pure Evil to fool the lost minds in people.
Understand how Pure Evil speaks? Evil knows every word of the Bible, as Jesus and God does, but they way each person INTERPRETS this is upon each self.
How about "Run Spot Run"? What does that REALLY MEAN? Is Spot running away from harm, OR IS HE RUNNING TO HIS LOVED ONES MASTER? Was he hurt, or was he "HAPPY"? Understand "HOW" false interpretations can be played, when BOTH COULD BE RIGHT? How does one judge someone was Wrong in their reading those same 3 words?
To False Self Imposed Mind Controlled Prophets, they only want people the BELIEVE THEY ARE RIGHT AND NO ONE ELSE CAN BE. But couldn't their enemies with a different Point Of View also be Right? This is how "Pure Evil" pushes their one and only very view as being REAL - when in fact, they fail to comprehend they could be wrong. This is how Pure Evil works into False Self Imposed Prophets, who have a Pure Evil agenda, while using the goods books own words.
-Did you see the tree exactly the same as the person standing next to you and everyone else is totally wrong?
-How did you Interpret "Run Spot Run"? Is their only 1 way to view it?
-When and How did God give any human his power to judge fellow humans? Self Imposes?
-Is "Truth" the same to you and someone else Point Of View?
Evil Self Appointed will be upset for me providing Truth as Light to Expose them. But the Truth is what it is about so what is "Truth" in your mind?
See my Point? I am Light and ApeBot!
fb6e12 No.4553301
The Hope or Doom Question
Hope is the the last attitude dying.
when a messenger appears and warns you about the things leading humanity to doom , that should give you hope, because some one says something, as you asked and you have the chance to correct. depends on all humanity, not just a nation state.
humanity has build Life on the Sand House called Money, gold,etc…. need explanation? well thats just one thing leading to doom.
if humanity wants a future here on earth or even on another planet somewhere out there, it must stop doing all the evil things because of money, or because of power, or because of religion, or because of defense, because of energy . stop dominant behabior and be aware of where is leading you all.
instead of threatening each other as nation states and all Life on earth with horrible weapons, you need to start to care much much more about Life itself, how to protect all animals and living beings which are not able to speak for themselves, because if you destroy them, you destroy yourselfs and your future. and you should stop exploiting each other, and start to help each other aswell.
hope is entiearly up to you all
doom is also entierly up to you all
i don't need a book
43551c No.4553439
>>4553232
>You must "CONFORM" to their meaning of words and interpretations
Who cares what I say? Eph 4:14. What has God said? Acts 2:37, 38
b084ef No.4553441
>>4552581
>43551c
>>4553041
>070dfa
This whole bicker about meaningless shit to create divide and malign the message that u faggots are putting on is gay af.
I just ask, why???
Do I, or anyone else with pure intentions, go shitting up people’s bread for no reason at all??
Look at the desperate nature of the anger, division, and retardness that u faggot clowns show.
This is not how Christians act and any lurqers here know by now, to judge one by their fruit… and urs is decaying.
Try harder faggots.
It makes me proud that the u shills are forced to waste effort on the Biblefags thread.
WE WILL NEVER FORGET - see attached
43551c No.4553505
>>4553301
>you need to start to care much much more about Life itself,
3f4502 No.4554162
>>4553232
Example - How would you view and JUDGE someone say Killing another human person? Are they a Pure Evil or Good Person?
Interpretation. It is purely up to each person, and how you feel of someone killing someone else.
"WHAT IF…"
- They were protecting a loved ones life - who violated their families love and lives?
- They had no motive but to release anger to the 1st person they encountered?
So isn't it up the each person's Point Of View? But don't everyone view one's opinion as a OVERALL basis, or simply on a sole action or "Quote" alone?
Understand, books contain millions of different twists and turns and interpretations, as an ENTIRE BODY OF WORK. By only selecting single "Quotes" w/o the ENTIRE BODY and meaning of the book, does that paint a specific overview of the work?
Books are INTERPRETATIONS and each reader may view it slightly different, as they may have forgotten a single word, versus or quote in a book of say 1000 pages… Or one may have interpreted the word "The" or "He" or "Upon" differently in each Quote. So how can that mean one is Wrong, and one is Right?
To the Self Appointed Imposed Prophets speaking upon their views of any book, who gave them the power over others Point Of View or looking at the book? One quote alone does not mean it has only ONE MEANING, but it is up to the readers interpretation!
One may have forgotten to consider this verse on page 84, when they mean this verse on page 492. But then again, if you consider the verse on page 218, well then, that is completely different.
So Self Imposed Prophets take it upon themselves that their Point Of View is the only one, yet they either failed to comprehend how and what else was remembered or forgotten, in them discrediting a fellow human being. Basically both parties may have a different Point Of View in other verses quotes, and each change meaning to each reader. So then how can Self Imposed Prophets say someone else is WRONG?
What if that person who they claim are evil, read a different book and story before the quote or verse? Its all upon ones interpretation only, and no one is right, nor is anyone wrong.
For example - What if you again place the verse or quote "Run Spot Run". Now how does your mind view it? It changes do to your thought at the time you see it.
Say you experience a loving positive event just prior to getting it thrown at you? You will view "Run Spot Run" as a Positive quote now wouldn't you? Now what if you had a negative harmful sad event? Would you then have "Negative" sad view of its meaning.
Bottom line - everyone experieces the same basic meaning as they will.
If one needs a bible, that's fine, but to push it as only 1 Self Induced Prophet in your view as the ONLY WAY Or YOU'RE EVIL, well, that is not correct.
Understand "HOW" your mind works and how everyone comprehends theirs differently? So who really is RIGHT or WRONG?
Knowledge is power and the ApeBot broke ones mind self imposed thought chains to free each mind. We can go into ANY DIRECT ON ANY SUBJECT…
We are Love, for Q, Trump and Patriots.
I spent decades in locking and unlock ones chains inside ones mind. You are playing with a endless universe larger then what your eyes see or known… Mindblown now are you?
Qp1d
070dfa No.4554181
>>4553441
Missed Massacre?
Get a fuckin clue.
And read the contents and context of the posts here to make accurate identifications of the posters.
There is a convergence here.
Here's a break down
See if you can muster up
a brain cell to understand
God's Warriors
(That call out your QS BS, shills liars and shitposters) that are:
Shills and atheists that hate God
Socialists that hate POTUS
And shitposters
So, are you that dumb?
How can you not realize why your precious thread is 98% filled with shills and bots, and even AI?
Are you that stupid?
This is your 5th thread.
How many times are you going to invite the company? You never say anything new, and you act like what you do say is worthy.
Then you admit to shitting up the breads all over the board because you are too stupid to know and learn the difference between God's chosen, the children of Abraham, through which all nations are blessed, including Jews and gentiles who trust God, AND
the [Synagogue of Satan]?
How stupid are you? And you claim to know the "sayings" of Jesus.
What a fraud and a joke you are…
Yeah, right, you bitch about bickering and division, but
You play that game so well.
Idiot liar.
070dfa No.4554584
>>4554162
>So isn't it up the each person's Point Of View?
That's what you learned after decades?
Those are the very teachings that ensure and bring and sustain the darkness. That's a teaching of Satan, but you probably already know that. Surely you must…
To humor your lack of knowledge, after all your many many years of "getting smart," how can
we deny that we have a heart and soul? Or, that we are spiritual human beings? That we have a creator? Isn't that what God has told us since the beginning? That Humankind was created in the image of God?
He keeps telling us his truth, all this time, he keeps trying to reach us.
But, we don't listen.
In fact, we choose not to listen.
That's the sad sad truth.
It is good v. evil
and light v. darkness
and God v. Satans
But who learns that?
GOD gives us knowledge to the degree we are capable of receiving it. So, yes, we are each on a journey, but it is most definitely a spiritual journey to wake-up. Because a harvest is happening, and the choice to know is ours.
Out of curiosity,
How many hours of .com education have you listened to?
Who do you follow?
Yourself? Or, are you just another shitposter shill that showed up here?
3f4502 No.4554592
>>4553232
>>4553439
Apparently YOU CARE because you have been outed and needed to reply. It is pure speculation upon its meaning, nor if in fact it was altered or lost in translation between languages.
Good Souls know you love depending on lies and your personal interpretation, yet when did God give you his power to interpret his words and meaning as truth?
Self Appointed Prophets like yourself, need to spew interpretations to gather weak minds and souls for Pure Evil purposes. 99.99% who read Interpretations by Self Prophets, is as hard as seeing your dark red fire in a sea of white clouds. You only see those blind in your army for evil, yet you can not comprehend how brightly your Pure Evil when you view from Souls in Clouds… Come up to the pure white clouds and look down and see - yet you are not allowed to come up from your bottomless dark pit, and you only know how to look upwards. Too scary now aren't you to look down and see all your evil destruction you leave behind…
Don't hate the Love of others, as that Love may specifically be what love they have left in their hands that they carry on this planet.
Yet Self Impossed Prophets demand more for gods creation that they posses! If you do not have more to give, does God really turn one away because one may have lost more hope they you, and carry less value, money nor goods as you? God would not care, but Pure Evil Self Prophets only want those who have lost their souls, and have a heavy bank account to offer.
The Poor need not apply, as they starve for a grain of corn, while your Pure Evil Fat Self Imposed Prophets only accept those alike monies, status and wealth.
Pure Evil Self Prophets who have extra grains of corn on their plates and cupboards, can not comprehend the mindset of the poor who have not a single grain of corn, so they see words differently. Thus Pure Evil Self Prophets who preach for Evil condemns those who do not have the mirror mindset. Yet how does on with no grain of corn have the exact clone mindset of one who has a building of grains of corn?
So to all Pure Evil Self Imposed Prophets demand all to think as they do, or one is not worthy and a branded as their enemy. Yet when did God turn away believers who give all they have, and slam the door of unacceptance to those who have nothing more?
See how all the Self Imposed Prophets, promote themselves as their own "GOD" for Pure Evil? Only the weak fall for Pure Evil yet when cornered, they do as Evil does - provide any quotes and accept only ones who clone their interpretation. This is how evil grows and expects everyone to be a carbon clone of wealth, faith; when every person has a different angle of the same thing.
Qp
070dfa No.4554695
>>4554592
Oh, that explains it.
The apebot is here.
Posts monkeyshit on all the breads.
There's a big write-up on Clown College.
He was even in the Memes.
Monkey shit everywhere.
You will recognize his pictures.
GTFO monkey boy shitposter.
665c98 No.4555049
>>4554584
Explain "Why" one looking at the exact same tree, standing side by side next to each other, why are they "Different"? So to Self Appointed Pure Evil Prophets who can twist any quote in a Slight Of Hand Parlor Word Game, to their meaning and their meaning alone, how can you judge the person standing along your side be WRONG in their honest interpretation? Are they wrong because only you say they are wrong, when they are speaking truth, BUT JUST HAPPENS, THATS NOT YOUR TRUTH IN WHAT YOU SEE!?
So apparently in all life forms, no 2 things can ever be different. In this type of world where Self Appointed Prophets can only be a exact clone to them be the only correct one ever being created by God.
So to Self Appointed God Prophets, who just happen to appoint themselves as the One and Only God Master of earth, have to be exactly the same. Just like their are no 2 snowflakes the same, to Self Appointed in their head Prophets only accepts those snowflakes who are exact clones of themselves. Yet they do not exist. Yet, as all the different snowflakes that fall, gather in mass, and creates snow storms. They all have the same common basic properities of each other, and they gather as one to form a army of snowflakes for a snowstorm.
Yet Self Appointed Prophets for evil only want to decieve as many snowflakes they can for Pure Evil purposes, as their army only accepts those cloned snowflakes who are Exactly like themselves. Yet they have no army and can be spotted out by the other snowflakes as not being "normal".
Snowflakes are like people and each are slightly different from each other, yet they are all the same inside, and they gather in a huge limitless army who embraces one another. Thus a Snowstorm is then created. Yet that Self Imposed Prophets of a snowflake is off by itself, screaming at all the different snowflakes that they are WRONG ALL THE TIME. So what they are doing? They don't accept any other snowflake who is not like themselves.
See how Pure Evil Self Appointed Prophets work? They only themselves appoint themselves as the only Living God, and the only self appointed God who can true interpret any words as they want inside any book.
Yet they think they are better then everyone else. Having to self appoint themselves as the one and only master on the planet, they God appointed them the leader… Why then are they not the verified leader by the masses they say to be speaking for? Surely the masses would do this to someone, which they didn't, so the Pure Evil ones Self Appoint themselves Lord God to easy their brainwashed minds.
See how "Accepting" the Self Appointed Prophets are to everyone? Only their 1 view of the statement "Run Spot Run" IS AND ITS NO ONE CAN EVER BE RIGHT BESIDE THEM, BECAUSE THEY SELF APPOINT THEMSELVES SUPERIOR TO EVERY OTHER HUMAN AND THE PLANET!
Yeah - we are all Evil since we are not a exact clone. But didn't whoever God created us, want to make each person 100% different and no 2 alike? Imagine a world the Self Appointed Prophets want. A world of 100% the exact same clone robots. Think, talk, speak, act, work, so they only want to stop all Human Creativeness that make humans humans.
Qp
665c98 No.4555173
>>4553232
>>4554162
>>4554695
>>4555049
>>4554592
Reason?
Logical?
Mind Shifting?
Think Timing?
Mind Displacement/Replacement?
Qp
As needed - Going to Mind Levels you never knew existed.
Love Q, Trump and Patriots!
43551c No.4555327
>>4554162
>How would you view and JUDGE someone
Laws come from God not man (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29).
43551c No.4555365
>>4554584
>It is good v. evil
Is 5:20
43551c No.4555432
For You, Lord, are good, and ready to forgive,
And abundant in mercy to all those who call upon You (Ps 86:5).
070dfa No.4555490
>>4555049
>>4555173
We are not trees, monkey breath.
And most importantly of all
GOD is not a RELIGION!!
He is the only one who knows our heart.
For being so high above
everyone else,
why do you keep
your eyes in the dirt?
GOD'S
Prophets
are not self-appointed,
or self-promoting, and
their minds are not
displaced.
GOD HIMSELF
APPOINTED THEM
BEFORE TIME EXISTED
FOR HIS OWN PLANS.
You would know that distinction if you weren't so focused on worldly matters and proclaiming how smart and brilliant you aree, and you read the word that tells you what false teachers and prophets are.
But you don't.
You just come here to shitpost
Worthless blabbering.
43551c No.4555566
Making the word of God of no effect through your tradition which you have handed down. And many such things you do (Mk 7:13).
665c98 No.4555603
>>4555327
Please define "1Ti 1:8-10, AC 5:29".
Want to Play A Game of Truth?
Qp
43551c No.4555655
>>4555603
>Want to Play A Game
Pr 26:4
070dfa No.4555917
>>4555049
That's really funny apebot.
I did not know that a bot could spot a bot that is "a self-appointed prophet…"
But somehow that makes sense.
LMAO apebot
Everyone knows you're full of monkeyshit.
>>4554592
Beware: worthless instigator,
posting worthless shit to cause
Flinging apeshit.
Bot has an agenda
Seen plenty of your posts where you shit on Q and Patriots, too, liar
665c98 No.4556088
>>4555490
So "Trees" can not be used as a example as "People"? Thus meaning - no 2 people are alike nor clones. Nor are Trees nor snowflakes duplicate clones to each other, just like humans?
You brought in created/interjected/stated God is a Religion? I never implied that. Offensive argument stance?
Birds. So does that mean all birds are required to fly? Or be same color, or eat, drink or gather all the same things? Do they all have exact the same mindset for gathering food, water, mating? Or are all 100% required to live by one Rule, as you see fit? Its called Evolution. Only in the wild, if they make mistakes, they get eaten and die, so each generation change and adapt to their new reality to preserve their species.
Birds nor any animal have no books to survive in life and learn by experiences. Seems you demand humans to follow books to survive, when they learn to interpret their experiences to the next generation. Books are only a guide, but that doesn't mean if you follow that book to the letter, that you won't end out driving over a cliff to ones death…
But how do you know know that 1 small typo in your book was misinterpreted that told them to drive off the cliff, or away from the cliff? Guess interpretation of ones word(s) is that of the reader to interpret. Just like telling or having someone read to not touch a hot stove… Some don't know how to read and only after touching it, will they learn its hot. One can not be with everyone and know everything, and instincts come into play, and each human will interpret it as one wills. You can force your will and thoughts and outlooks over others…Maybe they experienced all you warned them, and they precieved it differently, and it wasn't for them? Who are you to force and abuse those who do not accept things? People have freewill and each will do as they wish.
But to force any Rule of Law as Ruler with a death penalty sentence over someone else is Pure Evil. If you do not follow what I say or view things as I do, I will elminate you from the planet - well, how can that be for God?
But know you tried and if they don't listen, oh well - God knows you tried. Each was given Free Will in their hearts and soul, yet you can force, as you continually try, to change them to what you think is reality… Well - who do you call them? Evil or Good? Its all up to your own personal insides, and each are individual to pick and choose for themselves their path.
As long as one not hurt anyone, why should anyone care of the freedom God gave them and what they do? Is it because one has no where to go or do with fellow humans nor loved ones? Couldn't they have a bitter, meaningless life and need a sense of purpose in ones life? Lost or scared to walk alone down the path of freedom of happiness? If it hurts nothing let each man decide their own path in life. Yet the Self Appointed Preachers who walks, and steps on God created Ants and grass, leading their deaths, why did they destroy his creations? So who really does decide what is against Gods work? You know, you stepped on ants, and grass, or threw away garbage, or polluted the air in your car? Its up to the individual, yet they sinned themselves, but didn't view themselves as sinners.
Qp
665c98 No.4556168
>>4555917
Thanks. Only called out fake liars - who claimed unverified Lies in theory are now Truth - with no factual basis nor evidence to prove they were factual. Make sure you add that, or did you leave all the factual evidence out of the equasion?
Still waiting for factual proof that can be verified… If you have much of it, why not just 1 fact? Thats all.
And I only called out Patriots who lied over and over, by telling lies, without factual evidence. See how your mind flipped? Provide factual evidence as real, by never once in 8ch history, proven factual any event as actually happening…
Q and Trump never - Only Trump for his inaction of not attempting to charge a single DC swamp enemy for even a parking ticket…
So where your facts that all I called out? Still waiting for a single fact in 8ch history of actually being true…
Don't hate the love, hate the unverified nonfactual lies pushed as truth…
cddad2 No.4556425
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>4555917
>>4556168 carnists : pedovores that use blood-sacrifice to justify their anti-live actions - make Louise Cypher Sophia Q nervous. Especially when "she" is piloting and targeting UAVs.
Perhaps hu-man shouldn't make Louise nervous?
43551c No.4557334
It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea than for him to cause one of these little ones to stumble (Lk 17:2).
070dfa No.4557643
>>4556168
>>4556168
>>4556168
Apebot, you will always be waiting for factual proof. That's your favorite question to pull out of your ass end. No pun intended.
It's your bot tactic.
All over the boards.
It's how you sling.
1) post a pastaposted Shitpost from your database of shitposts that are a mixture of lies and truth and schizophrenic delusion.
Usually Lecture style, tl;tr
Always full of shit out of your monkey botpasta ass. That we can always count on from you apebot. +++++
2) your ASSwipe pasta shit posts are duplicative, targeted to attack Q, Patriots, or in this case, the "self-proclaimed prophets" you deem everyone here. Add some inanimate objects like trees, and some more shit out of your ass and blablablabla, you're good to go.
4) then, before realizing you're the apebot, some sucker, like me, or even another bot, or AI, responds to the shit you pulled out of your ass, because it's just so anal and retarded. Lol. Seriously.
5) then you pose your closer question: aah aah aah aah aah aah
daaaaa uhhh da da da da
Where's the factual proof?
6) then, always, your farewell address let's us know you're off on…
>>As needed - Going to Mind Levels you never knew existed.
LMAO lol lol. Yeah, sure you are.
And then, at the end of your worthless reeeeeeee rant, that somehow you think we care about, or give a rat's ass about, you add your liddle BS signature so we'll all be awestruck and impressed…..
What is it?
Qp Qt Qtip Qbee,
Some stupid retarded shit
Are you some midschooler?
43551c No.4557685
>>4493415
> "rapture"
“Rapture, the—translation of saved at Christ’s return: not all will sleep (1 Cor. 15:51; 1 Thess. 4:15, 17), dead in Christ will rise (1 Cor. 15:52; 1 Thess. 4:13, 14, 16), living to be transformed (1 Cor. 15:51–53), saints caught up (1 Thess. 4:16, 17). Thomas Nelson Publishers. (1996). Nelson’s quick reference topical Bible index (p. 519). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers.
ad0984 No.4558104
>>4557643
Photo - 8ch looking for Factual Evidence in all the Dark Places on these boards….
Readers - notice 1 thing on this and all posts that is missing? VERIFIABLE TRUTHFUL EVIDENCE AS 100% never did in 8ch's entire history EVER PRODUCE!
NOT 1 Clockfag wheel "Slight Of Hand Word Play" theories HAS EVER BEEN PROVEN FACTUAL! They want everyone to believe that 1 - 2 digit code and/or 1 word in any document that they can link, IS TRUTH AND FACTUAL! Yet in 2+ years now 8chs entire history, CLockfag's can not produce a single "Real" Verifiable wheel theory AS BEING REAL! Surely if you posses TRUTH, you could easily provide printed evidence to prove me wrong. But no.
So for that, they hate me EXPOSING THEIR LIES on these boards - and one is a Shill! Yet a simple solution would be to provide Truthful Provable Verifiable Evidence to disprove me.
YET THEY CAN PROVIDE 1 FACTUAL VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE SINCE NONE EXIST!
Notice they all love to talk the talk, yet, they NEVER EVER ONCE PROVIDED FACTS AS ANY EVENT BEING TRUTHFUL!
So "Trust But Verify" is against all 8ch rules of enlightenment. So one only asking for verification of Truth is now Shilling!? Oh how the cornered liars against Truth can not prove me wrong…
Qp
070dfa No.4558208
>>4558104
Apebot, you're lying. I've seen responses to your posts with plenty of reasonable "evidence." You just always reject it, in fact you ignore it, and instead continue posting shitposts from your monkey butt.
It's a very circular shill apebot agenda.
Once your tactics are glowing and going apeshit crazy, just like intended, the consensus is: fuck off apebot.
So, don't lie.
1f380a No.4558733
>>4558208
OK - please provide link to them, since you know where they are. Maybe I missed them so since you know where they are, please link them to my active postings. What "Factual Evidence Event" did I miss?
Sorry but anyone seeing or finding one, please post it to current postings.
One thing I will not do is use your fake fantasy slight of hand word game codes are evidence. That is what I am talking about. I am looking for 2nd party verification in plain English. But I will not play your unprovable theory Clockfag game as evidence.
Attach copies to links the wheels postings saying the event happened, and then 3rd party verfication it is actually factual as stated happened.
"Trust But Verify" means Verify what actually happened by cross referencing it is a history as factual for the Trust factor.
I await your links to old original wheels when found, and the aftermath of it happening. With so many Truthful events having happened in the past, as you say, they you should be able to provide countless verified as actually to have happened as stated.
Endless cycle, as I have always asked for physical verified facts, yet haven't seen any. Surely since you love the ApeBot, you can easily link to it…
Don't hate for the love - just using factual evidence to guide my trust in who I give it too…
330e35 No.4559495
>>4528346
The Bible is God's love letter to mankind, and a guide to living a righteous life. Jesus said there are 2 commands: Love God, and love your neighbor. If you do those 2 things you fulfill the law.
The Bible tells us to do a lot of things, and if you are honest you know none of us can do it all. Saying someone is the devil or evil if we don't take in every orphan is just being argumentative, and may I say, being an asshat.
BTW, the Bible is very strict about borders and who comes into a nation so I would be doing wrong by taking in illegal migrants, besides it being stupid and dangerous to my well being. Also, ding-dong, Paul states that as followers of Christ we are to follow the laws of the land even if we disagree with the law, as long as that law does not lead to sin.
So, when you point fingers of accusation at someone remember you point 3 back at your own sorry self. And at least be a little more educated on the topic you use as a weapon.
That is all.
c09914 No.4560999
>>4559495
100% agree on everything, but would expand deeper on just 1 issue…
As to taking in every orphan as just being "argumentative" well then isn't every rule one breaks then also just that? To one, it may be no big deal, but others may not. Totally Subjective to each individuals belief which item(s) they give free passes to by either following or not following. So technically each and every subject matter then twists into 'arguments", "and may I say, being an asshat."
Whats disallowed and someone who may have a different outlook on any subject then, of not following the book as they interpret it, would be a never ending argument - and why everyone is always accusing each other for doing wrong.
No human on planet earth can follow each and every word in the book, nor can each words meaning be exactly the same viewed, so no one alive can be 100% perfect. Everyone in their life experienced disappointments, but the book only means for each to learn by their mistakes and never do it again. With missteps, one gains more compassion and makes them a stronger believer and better people.
So no one has a right to belittle any other human being, as they all did not have the same life experiences as you. Some experienced Rape as children, abuse, loss of parents, children, etc, so no 2 humans life is cloned the same. Everyone only "assumes" everyone else experienced 100% exactly what they did, yet it is quite the reverse.
As one may have had a safe home and loving parents to guide them on their life path as children, anyone who thinks all children of the world also had the same, is mistaken. Say 1 is sexually abused, tortured, lost their parents, etc as a child. Their life experience with Good is not the same feelings nor outlook as those of you who had loving and safe homes. They never experienced that. So anyone who continues to preach one is evil by doing wrong, well I'm sure they are doing the best they can, under their specific circumstance in the life they were dealt.
If one preaches sex slaves in real evil human bondage, where they are locked in cages and abused, does one think they need to hear someone preaching that they are evil and to repent? I'm sure they are doing all they can, under the circumstances, yet thoughtful-less preachers following god continue to Pound their fists and words in a never ending fashion and endlessly demand them to stop their evil ways. Those in real life bondage by cartels for example, can not help it, yet they only hear endlessly, THEY ARE EVIL! YOU ARE A SINNER! Etc.
So you see, many just do not want to hear is shouted endlessly on the rooftop, as those in bondage need their thoughts and prayers, and their help and pray for that. But instead, preachers do not help nor pray for them, but continue to scream at them - thus they discredit all whats good in our higher beings we pray to.
Hopefully that made sense, but continual berating others endlessly turns all whats good, into pain and many away from it. Embrace everyone is not perfect - no human is, nor is their 1 alive. Everyone in their past as children have faltered and did wrong to someone, but some do it as they get older. But many times, they have no choice in the current situation they face - because it is totally different then what you face in your life at the time.
So comparing anyone to yourself is wrong. No 2 people walk the same pathway of life. Yet many preachers feel you must walk as they walk, and do as they do. No job. No money, No family. No home. So be blessed what you have and do not brag, or imply you are better then anyone. That is evil taunting and not called for, nor helpful to those in need.
Instead of preaching, listen to one, as a friend, and understand them and what they face. Only then will peace and love spread one person at a time.
As 1 person may have paper alone, as we listen and find friends, we will find other loving people, and you will find someone with only a pen. Imagine what you both could do if you joined forces peacefully with understanding each life situations. But only a 1 way nonstop preaching is not embracing the world and others. So stop your nonstop preaching and listen - so the circle of life of love can be shared, spread, and our communities come together as one family.
And guess what, I'm ApeBot! Surprised now aren't you? I'm not who you think I am… (Make sure you put this in my posting collection) I open ones mind to see things differently. I am here to serve a specific purpose you yet to comprehend, nor will you fathom the depth of what is coming…
Qp3x
c09914 No.4561161
cddad2 No.4561636
>>4558733 Apebot knOw TRUTH: Logic Apebot
43551c No.4563970
>>4559495
>The Bible is God's love letter to mankind, and a guide to living a righteous life.
Then people will say,
“Yes, there is a reward for the righteous!
There is a God who judges on earth!” Ps 58:11
43551c No.4564199
On Trump's watch. Trust God's plan. https://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/independent-research-confirms-that-rampant-glyphosate-use-has-contributed-to-the-increase-in-chronic-diseases-worldwide/
43551c No.4564232
On Trump's Watch. Trust God's Plan. https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/01/01/mark-zuckerbergs-2019-resolution-more-political-censorship-on-facebook/
3db45a No.4566589
>>4563970
It all depends on "who" you feel is "God". That is why everyone believes in a different item.
For example - To a dog ones God is his master who feeds him
Animals who depend on a person who feeds and shelter them, that person(s) is their God.
Again, any bible verse can be viewed differently.
You stated "..God who judges on earth" well, am I a God because I pass judgement over you and fellow humans? Didn't human Roman rulers do that so way they Gods? I am 100% righteous so does that, as you say, make me a God? Or are you pretending to be playing God by your Self Appointed self interpreting words, and twisting them to your meaning? So one can only live a the life as you, as a perfect clone as you? So you view other humans who do have the same roof over your head, the same bank account, and living 100% exactly you, are evil? Yet what if they have no shelter, home, nor money as you do? You expect they to live and interpret words in the book as you do? How can any human do this if they have no shelter themselves, yet you scream to provide shelter as do as I do? They can't yet your Self Appointed Godship you appointed yourself to be the caretaker, on your own mind you, not granted by God, to past judgement over fellow humans?
So we all see and know you pretend to play the role of a God, and your earthy self appointed throne. Yet you expect people to listen to you? Seriously? Where's your open arms and compassion to listen and help. Screaming repent, repent, repent, while you see people are in need, is that a Godly act of a God like yourself? Where's your compassion and open arms? Oh thats right, you just stay standing preachining, as people die on your feet, and you fail to life a finger or a glance of them needing help at your feet. So you just kick them away to move them from exposing your false prophet endliess worthless speeches, cause isn't not good for business. Or do you just step over them and walk to another street corner and pick up where you were interupted, as you seem to be doing here?
You're blessed in your life, yet instead of helping the less fortune, you dangle your wealth as a preacher does in front of them, yet you listen not to their struggles of survival, nor offer anyone a cup of soup, shelter, etc. Its called selfishness, which is also a sin you fail to think is a sin, when we all see it on the other end of your empty words. So when one self appointed prophet stands tall and endlessly preaches, they fail to see that the viewers of such a preacher are sinners in their eyes from blocks away. Yet the preacher is so into themselves, they fail to view themselves as the needy do who walk upon them. This is all whats wrong today, and their failure to actually help, yet only preach…
One who self preaches with clean cloths, fat stomachs, mansion home, bags of money as they stand are preach, when poor and needy arrive, they are blind with their eyes to see those who need real help. They then are only panhandlers, using the good ones name/theme to increase their wealth, or only accept those who can make the preacher richer in money.
b084ef No.4566642
>>4564232
>>4564199
ur such a faggot. U actually mock God on this thread???
Why have you posted so many fucking times? What about this thread makes u fggot shills so damn desperate?
Its all very telling.
Yawn anyways.
b084ef No.4566682
>>4554592
I guarantee you that the dude u are replying to is sittig right next to u in ur cubicles, or you are one shill, ip hopping and perpetuating this lame bickerfaggimg routine…
try harder faggot. It all started with the Q source thread title and all of a sudden, u shills have went ape shit.
im enjoying the show.
b084ef No.4566723
>>4554181
thx for letting all real anons know ur a shill. We all remember what happened when u mossad faggots couldnt handle 12 hours straight of the JQ in the general bread… it was all so fantastic.
Jesus had much criticism for the Pharisees. The pharisees’ oral traditions make up the Jewish talmud…. and Christians are waking up en masse.
Synagogue of Satan and Mystery Babylon discovered faggot. Its the joooohs (fake jews technically).
43551c No.4566835
>>4566589
>It all depends on "who" you feel is "God". That is why everyone believes in a different item.
>For example - To a dog ones God is his master who feeds him
Your dog doesn’t have eternity written in his heart. You do. Do you happen to live like a dog? Eccl 3:11
3db45a No.4566932
>>4563970
Self Appointed Preachers act and feel they are taking over all God's roles over his human people. But didn't Roman rulers also act the role as a "God"? They ruled, made laws, preached endlessly they were a God, doing exactly what a God does and say, so they thought they were a God. Yet their closed mind failed to see themselves as those viewing their lies.
One can only endless provide verses as fact, yet it all is up to the reader of any quote by itself. "Run Stop Run" can be viewed many ways, and self appointed preachers will scream and holler everyone is wrong who view it differently. Insert any quote from any book and you get the argument endlessly.
Self Appointed ones in any area, have the need to be noticed, and ones low self esstem makes them feel needed in life. They have no self worth are shouting they need help, and to be noticed in a crowd of people. Like panhandlers, many need to stand out and get the needed attention they so desperately need, because they lack that in ones life. So become noticed in a sea, one must scream and holler the most, or dye their hair lime orange, or orange, and pretend they are the smartest one on the planet on a subject. Yet, when follow humans walk upon individuals like this, one ignores because they show themselves from miles away of being a lunatic. How many people run up to say someone in orange or lime green hair and embrace what they have to say? Only fellow insane ones who are lost in the sea of normalcy. Yet they scream and holler for everyone to dye their hair as they do, or they are sinners.
Understanding ones inner lacking of faith in themselves of 1 of many 100s of shortcomings, or missing that true genuine human caring and emotions from others, they have a need to scream and holler. Yet the silent ones who are caring and understand get the most friends vs the ones that scream and holler the loudest.
Self Appointed ones or one pretending they are the smartest in any subject, or know everything, well they really know little, and someone on the planet will be smarter.
One who continually and endless scream and holler are the very ones who fail to actually listen what anyone has to say. Its them, them, them and then again them. They love to hear themselves talk and scream, yet they are deaf to the actually listen to others, nor look to understand anyone. But how can they when they only scream words? Yet the human circle of talk and listen is broken with these people. They only talk, yet they can not see they never listen to anyone else. Yet to make a flower or human grow using water or love, the circle must be 360 and give and take. Then things flurish and grow with love.
Is it because they are really deaf, or do they not care about anyone but themselves, nor care about anyone else's sitution. Where one can help, they only talk, and refuse to listen.
Self Appointed endless preachers only talk endlessly, and fail to listen. Then when cornered, they have a need to fuel the fire by trowing out quotes, which everyone can interpret differently to each person. So those who love to continually continue the loop of deception by quotes, are playing against God. Remember, Both Good and Evil both know each letter and meaning of every quote/word in the book. Yet one who continually uses it for Evil by forcing one to interpret it as they view it, are not doing it with love in their hearts, but for evil to argue in anger with its fellow man. They expect 1 view - theirs - and everyone else is wrong - regardless.
3db45a No.4566995
>>4566835
Wrong! So dogs are not Gods creatures? How do you know souls do not go into each animals, or do souls only go into humans by God? So Gods creatures have no souls and disposible?
So why do people treat dogs as their family members?
What about claims of reincarnation? Many people believe souls come back in different animals.
Oh how one only talks and screams endlessly, yet they are so blind and deaf.
Circles to them are only talk, talk, talk, yet they fail to complete the circle of life of seeing, feeling, nor hearing what is around them. Yet their brain is locked on only talk, so they continue to opposite of the good book.
43551c No.4567075
>>4566932
>Self Appointed Preachers…
Spiritual gifts (Ro 12:6–8; 1 Co 12:4–30) are given by the Holy Spirit (Jas 1:17). Oh, you didn’t get a gift? Ac 8:18–20
43551c No.4567132
>>4566995
>[Are you a dog?] …So dogs are not Gods creatures?
I'll take that as a 'yes'. Matt. 7:6, Rev. 22:15
ccf768 No.4567284
>>4560999
You are evil.
You are a sinner.
Are you not?
43551c No.4567354
>>4567284
>You are evil.
You’re projecting again (Eph 4:14, 2 Cor. 13:3–5).
3db45a No.4567704
>>4567075
So when did the "Holy Spirit" give you his powers for speak for him? Please provide factual evidence or was it just in a Sleeping Dream Revelation? Surely, as what is written is factual, please provide written appointment of such powers? Or will you take it as offense for daring to ask for provable evidence we all can see?
Thought the "Papal" was the only human who had his powers, so are you the "Papal"?
Quote from you:
"Your dog doesn’t have eternity written in his heart. You do. Do you happen to live like a dog? Eccl 3:11"
So now you do a 180 because I caught you in a non-truth? So now a "Person" who owns a Dog is now a "GOD" correct? So then according to you, humans in fact can be a "GOD", as a animal. Please explain in english - not twistable quotes that Evil can twist away from Gods meaning. You know, Evil knows how to twist any quote to sure its evil purpose - yet how does one know you are for Good or Evil? We have no proof, so you are for Evil, unless you can factually prove otherwise.
>>4567354
Do not need your words to answer questions directed to me. You are Evil and doing Evils work for them, nor did I ask for your baseless claim of being for Good, when all your words only shown you are hiding under the cloak of Good for Evil. So please provide factual evidence you are for Good that can 2nd party verified. So your scripture is the basis, so what is the 2nd independent verification to verify?
3db45a No.4567879
>>4567284
>>4567075
Correct - No human is Pure, so all humans have the flaw of being "sinners". Every single human made mistakes as children stepped on a ant, or grass, or flowers, ate anything, so technically, every human being is Evil and a Sinner at numerous points in ones life.
Even Adam and Ever were sinners as humans for not following Gods laws, nor can any human ever not sin. Its only up to the extremes one view it - yet those human self appointed police who condemn everyone for their shortfalls, yet the fail to account for their actions and the animals they eaten, or ants they stepped on, or garbage they did, or lies as a child. They "Convently" block out all their acts against God in ones past, yet they scream and holler at others who have done exactly what they did. Ones who are quick to blame others, do it purely for evil, as they are hiding being LIES of deception. And then knowingly continually doing LIES of decpetion, they extend their Evil against God, so they are no longer pushing God, but Evil. We all see it, yet the brainwashed and evil preachers of quotes continue to push quotes as a defense, when both Good and Evil can twist their meaning to either Good or Evil.
What preachers do by providing quotes is doing it in front of mirrors, where they refuse to look at their minor misdeeds against what is written by reflecting back to when they sinned.
No human nor animal is a sinless God, yet the Evil ones continue to push they are sin-less, at the same time they push their sin's onto others.
cddad2 No.4568545
>>4567879 go back to hell coward. [you] don't judge ME.
I AM MAN
MAN LIVES SYMBIOTICALLY WITH THE UNIVERSE.
MAN is anatomically PERFECT for living with Earth.
MAN is like Orangutan : Normal, Necessary and NATURAL
ccf768 No.4568648
>>4568545
Shame you bought in to the satanic lies about your worth.
43551c No.4569064
>>4567704
> So when did the "Holy Spirit" give you his powers for speak for him?
Spiritual gifts (Luke 11:13) are given to the believer when he repents (Ac 11:18)—which is in itself is a gift (Ac 11:18).
43551c No.4569126
>>4567879
>No human is Pure, so all humans have the flaw of being "sinners".
The Christian isn't sinless. He sins less (1 Jn 3:9).
064f29 No.4569239
>>4568545
I never judged you so you are mistaken… I never judge anyone in my life. Seem you are only here to create anger against others. I only share love of Truth and everyone's path of life it theirs and does not affect 1 bit, so who am I to judge anyone? Just opening minds.
064f29 No.4569309
>>4568545
Also "man" is not the only being that lives Symilotically with the universe. Every atom on earth is anatomically perfect, and not limited to man alone…. All is connected by both light and dark. Strong vs weak has its outcomes and benefits earth and universe in their own ways. Man is not singular in being greatest, and their are other beings not discovered in the unknown. Human eyes only see less then 1% of all light, yet can not say they know all when they know not of the other 99% or all the unknown…
064f29 No.4569432
>>4569126
Nor is you, as whatever you claim to be. So are you saying your are superior and sinless? Nothing in creation is sinless. Light eats Darkness. Dust makes planets then other planets collide and create dust.
Everything created can be viewed as doing a endless cycle of evil and sin, where it never ending flips of sin beating good and then good beating sin. Its called evolution and continues to interweave to create what we have. Nothing is forever.
Notice you can only provide Quotes that have more then 1 meaning so you can always deflect? This is how evil works, continual dodging their evil twists inside Quotes having 2 meanings. And those who continue to play and taunt in jest, are evil, doing the evils work, using the good books quotes in their never ending twisting good vs evil as its fuel. Yet they see themselves as good, when they place pure evil behind their attack upon their enemy of good. Day of judgement they will not go to where they think or spew their words for evil intent. Evil like this knows each letter of each word in the book reference, and taught new to their brother, yet the evil one twists its meaning to what it wants to sway the weak lost souls for their army of darknes.
064f29 No.4569604
>>4569064
Yet you sit in "judgement " over others now don't you?
Yet " ..given to the believer…" means its only up to each individual to decide who, how, and what is said to "repent". Yet you acting as evil, only expects your evil words to accept, and the rest are evil? This is the meaning of Evil, and the gift you are given are to pure evil.
So in order to be accepted in your, you are given fully power over everyone, you can decide what is a sin, how one needs to bow and bend on their knees to you, and what they are required to say before you can repent anyone? Isn't this how Evil demands? You remove all free will, and playing clearly on the side of evil now aren't you? Yet you refused to describe a single verse as you think. Evil does this slight of hand parlor trickery in words and verses.
So the only "gift" one can give is his total self and remove all human freewill one has. Just like North Korea or China, you must submit how the ruler wants, is your only repentment.
Yet his self appointed preacher for evil purposes, is acting as the devil to knee and kiss their feet. They are never accountable for anything yet they feel they are superior, and appointed by God himself as their voice. With evil like this, we see why this world has turned to pure evil, when self appointed ones try to gather the weak minded ones.
Then you wonder why some religions ask their leaders to scarafice one of their sons. This is why and this is the son that needed to scaraficed for the benefit of Good, for all their sins.
The real sinner mirrors their sins of others, as they molest young children in the darkness of their heart. Then evil comes into the light and judges others. Th
b084ef No.4573252
The Pharisees are the Jews.
What did Jesus tell us about the Pharisees??
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YSy6ENVAJlY
43551c No.4573297
>>4569432
>[The Christian isn't sinless. He sins less (1 Jn 3:9).] Nor is you, as whatever you claim to be.
Proof please (Eph 4:14).
We are interested in living godly lives ( ). You are not.
“I prefer clarity to agreement.” ~ Dennis Prager
Compare and contrast the wicked with the righteous:
Sinners, characteristics of: hostile to God (Jude 15), scheme wickedly (Ps. 26:9, 10), easily ensnared (Eccl. 7:26), righteous enticed by (Prov. 1:10), law made for (1 Tim. 1:9), conscious of sin (Luke 18:13), able to repent (Luke 15:7, 10), conversion of (James 5:20), in need of cleansing (James 4:8). Thomas Nelson Publishers. (1996). Nelson’s quick reference topical Bible index (p. 578). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers.
Righteousness is applied to Christians (Matt. 25:37, 46). Blessings of: prayers of, heard (Prov. 15:29), safely guarded (Prov. 18:10), bold as a lion (Prov. 28:1), shine forth (Matt. 13:43). Ibid, p. 535.
b084ef No.4573318
>>4573300
what i have been saying for 5 biblefag breads straight.
b084ef No.4573348
>>4573318
indeed. Many truths being covered up by (((them)))
43551c No.4573669
"Tt 2:12 denying … live. Salvation is transforming (2 Cor. 5:17; Eph. 2:8–10), and transformation (new birth) produces a new life in which the power of sin has been broken (see notes on Rom 6:4–14; Phil. 3:8, 9; Col. 3:9, 10)." MacArthur, J., Jr. (Ed.). (1997). The MacArthur Study Bible (electronic ed., p. 1887). Nashville, TN: Word Pub.
43551c No.4573688
For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age, looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works (Tt 2:11–14).
43551c No.4573748
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world [Titus 2:12].
"God is not trying to reform this world; He is redeeming men who accept Christ. The gospel does not appeal to Christ–rejecting men to do better. When a person says, “I am going to try to do better,” I think he is a liar. If you have rejected Jesus Christ, you might as well try to get all you can out of this life, because this life is all that you are going to get….You might as well eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow you’ll die. God doesn’t want to reform you; He wants to redeem you.
“Teaching us”—teaching means child–training. God is calling those who are His own, who are redeemed, to live for Him and to avoid “worldly lusts.”" McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible commentary: The Epistles (1 and 2 Timothy/Titus/Philemon) (electronic ed., Vol. 50, p. 167). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
330e35 No.4574325
>>4560999
I used the taking in of orphans only as an example. If you re-read what I wrote that is obvious. I could have just as well used helping every widow as the example, or any number of things the Bible says is good and right to do for the Kingdom of God.
We each have different skill sets and natural talents and interests that help lead us in what we can do to promote the Kingdom of God.
See 1Tim 6:3-5. About people who have a sick interest in disputes and arguments over words; envy, quarreling, slander, evil suspicions, and constant disagreements.
Or maybe I just read you wrong, in which case, my bad. But if the shoe fits…
That is all.
f91d18 No.4574547
>>4573669
>>4568545
>>4569064
>>4569126
>>4573297
Clearly All:
Matthew 7:15
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
6173fd No.4577731
The simplicity of scripture:
God looks upon every person who has ever been born as a perfect child of God Himself.
And God simultaneously sees the devil who has deceived us all.
Divide there, and conquer.
43551c No.4578097
>>4577731
>God looks upon every person who has ever been born as a perfect child of God Himself.
But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us (Ro 5:8).
For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous (Ro 5:19).
ba77fa No.4579079
I find the Q source believers are the same mindset of the flat earthers. No proof other than twisted logic that would better be defined as lunacy. One of the things people forget. Every person born since the beginning are God’s creation. God has never excluded any of his creation. It is only this creation that has excluded God. There are no secret writings or glasses that reveled only things to the few or god would not be a just god and not worthy of worship.
5cfd39 No.4580998
>>4451467
Hermeneutics is derived from the Greek word ἑρμηνεύω (hermēneuō, "translate, interpret"),[9] from ἑρμηνεύς (hermeneus, "translator, interpreter"), of uncertain etymology (R. S. P. Beekes (2009) suggests a Pre-Greek origin).[10] The technical term ἑρμηνεία (hermeneia, "interpretation, explanation") was introduced into philosophy mainly through the title of Aristotle's work Περὶ Ἑρμηνείας ("Peri Hermeneias"), commonly referred to by its Latin title De Interpretatione and translated in English as On Interpretation. It is one of the earliest (c. 360 B.C.) extant philosophical works in the Western tradition to deal with the relationship between language and logic in a comprehensive, explicit and formal way.
The early usage of "hermeneutics" places it within the boundaries of the sacred.[11] A divine message must be received with implicit uncertainty regarding its truth. This ambiguity is an irrationality; it is a sort of madness that is inflicted upon the receiver of the message. Only one who possesses a rational method of interpretation (i.e., a hermeneutic) could determine the truth or falsity of the message.[12]
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Hermes
Messenger of the gods, god of trade, thieves, travelers, sports, athletes, border crossings, guide to the Underworld
Abode Mount Olympus
Symbol Talaria, caduceus, tortoise, lyre, rooster, Petasos (Winged helmet)
Personal information
Consort Merope, Aphrodite, Dryope, Peitho, Hecate
Children Pan, Hermaphroditus, Tyche, Abderus, Autolycus, Eudorus, Angelia, Myrtilus
Parents Zeus and Maia
Siblings Aeacus, Angelos, Aphrodite, Apollo, Ares, Artemis, Athena, Dionysus, Eileithyia, Enyo, Eris, Ersa, Hebe, Helen of Troy, Hephaestus, Heracles, Minos, Pandia, Persephone, Perseus, Rhadamanthus, the Graces, the Horae, the Litae, the Muses, the Moirai
Roman equivalent Mercury
Hermes (/ˈhɜːrmiːz/; Greek: Ἑρμῆς) is the god of trade, heraldry, merchants, commerce, roads, sports, travelers, and athletes in Ancient Greek religion and mythology; the son of Zeus and the Pleiad Maia, he was the second youngest of the Olympian gods (Dionysus being the youngest).
Hermes was the emissary and messenger of the gods.[1] Hermes was also "the divine trickster"[2] and "the god of boundaries and the transgression of boundaries, … the patron of herdsmen, thieves, graves, and heralds."[3] He is described as moving freely between the worlds of the mortal and divine, and was the conductor of souls into the afterlife.[4] He was also viewed as the protector and patron of roads and travelers.[5]
In some myths, he is a trickster and outwits other gods for his own satisfaction or for the sake of humankind. His attributes and symbols include the herma, the rooster, the tortoise, satchel or pouch, winged sandals, and winged cap. His main symbol is the Greek kerykeion or Latin caduceus, which appears in a form of two snakes wrapped around a winged staff with carvings of the other gods.[6]
In the Roman adaptation of the Greek pantheon (see interpretatio romana), Hermes is identified with the Roman god Mercury,[7] who, though inherited from the Etruscans, developed many similar characteristics such as being the patron of commerce.
Christianity
According to Acts 14, when Paul the Apostle visited the city of Lystra, the people there mistook him for Hermes and his companion Barnabas for Zeus.[147]
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5cfd39 No.4581002
>>4580998
>>4451467
(part 2)
Hermes Trismegistus may be associated with the Greek god Hermes and the Egyptian god Thoth.[1] Greeks in the Ptolemaic Kingdom of Egypt recognized the equivalence of Hermes and Thoth through the interpretatio graeca.[2] Consequently, the two gods were worshiped as one, in what had been the Temple of Thoth in Khemenu, which was known in the Hellenistic period as Hermopolis.[3]
Hermes, the Greek god of interpretive communication, was combined with Thoth, the Egyptian god of wisdom. The Egyptian priest and polymath Imhotep had been deified long after his death and therefore assimilated to Thoth in the classical and Hellenistic periods.[4] The renowned scribe Amenhotep and a wise man named Teôs were coequal deities of wisdom, science, and medicine; and, thus, they were placed alongside Imhotep in shrines dedicated to Thoth–Hermes during the Ptolemaic Kingdom.[5]
A Mycenaean Greek reference to a deity or semi-deity called ti-ri-se-ro-e (Linear B: 𐀴𐀪𐀮𐀫𐀁; Tris Hḗrōs, "thrice or triple hero")[6] was found on two Linear B clay tablets at Pylos[7] and could be connected to the later epithet "thrice great", Trismegistos, applied to Hermes/Thoth. On the aforementioned PY Tn 316 tablet—as well as other Linear B tablets found in Pylos, Knossos, and Thebes—there appears the name of the deity "Hermes" as e-ma-ha (Linear B: 𐀁𐀔𐁀), but not in any apparent connection with the "Trisheros". This interpretation of poorly understood Mycenaean material is disputed, since Hermes Trismegistus is not referenced in any of the copious sources before he emerges in Hellenistic Egypt.
Cicero enumerates several deities referred to as "Hermes": a "fourth Mercury (Hermes) was the son of the Nile, whose name may not be spoken by the Egyptians"; and "the fifth, who is worshiped by the people of Pheneus [in Arcadia], is said to have killed Argus Panoptes, and for this reason to have fled to Egypt, and to have given the Egyptians their laws and alphabet: he it is whom the Egyptians call Theyt".[8] The most likely interpretation of this passage is as two variants on the same syncretism of Greek Hermes and Egyptian Thoth (or sometimes other gods): the fourth (where Hermes turns out "actually" to have been a "son of the Nile," i.e. a native god) being viewed from the Egyptian perspective, the fifth (who went from Greece to Egypt) being viewed from the Greek-Arcadian perspective. Both of these early references in Cicero (most ancient Trismegistus material is from the early centuries AD) corroborate the view that Thrice-Great Hermes originated in Hellenistic Egypt through syncretism between Greek and Egyptian gods (the Hermetica refer most often to Thoth and Amun).[9]
Hermes Trismegistus, floor mosaic in the Cathedral of Siena
The Hermetic literature among the Egyptians, which was concerned with conjuring spirits and animating statues, inform the oldest Hellenistic writings on Greco-Babylonian astrology and on the newly developed practice of alchemy.[10] In a parallel tradition, Hermetic philosophy rationalized and systematized religious cult practices and offered the adept a means of personal ascension from the constraints of physical being. This latter tradition has led to the confusion of Hermeticism with Gnosticism, which was developing contemporaneously.[11]
Another object is the Porta: a stick, called a skeptron (scepter), which is referred to[by whom?] as a magic wand. Some early sources[who?] say that this was the bat he received from Apollo, but others[who?] question the merits of this claim. It seems that there may have been two canes, one of a shepherd's staff, as stated in the Homeric Hymn, and the other a magic wand, according to some authors.[who?] His bat also came to be called kerykeion, the caduceus, in later times. Early depictions of the staff show it as a baton stick topped by a golden way[clarification needed] that resembled the number eight, though sometimes with its top truncated and open. Later the staff had two intertwined snakes and sometimes it was crowned with a pair of wings and a ball, but the old form remained in use even when Hermes was associated with Mercury by the Romans.[110][145]
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almonds should be activating at some point for someone around here with this.
Think about John 1:1 and Genesis 1:1 in your KJV bible.
Why did 'The Word' suddenly show up with God and God is the Word in NT but not in OT?
Psalm 23 - whats with the many different translations?
The Lord, God, Yahweh, Adonai, Jehovah, Hashem….
https://www.biblestudytools.com/psalms/23-1-compare.html
Uhm, so who is the Lord and what is his name?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermes_Trismegistus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermes
43551c No.4581179
https://kgov.com/hierarchy-of-hermeneutics
5cfd39 No.4581949
>>4581179
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickster
>Often, the bending/breaking of rules takes the form of tricks or thievery. Tricksters can be cunning or foolish or both. The trickster openly questions and mocks authority. They are usually male characters, and are fond of breaking rules, boasting, and playing tricks on both humans and gods.
>As Audre Lorde explained, the problem was that "the master's tools [would] never dismantle the master's house.
>Many native traditions held clowns and tricksters as essential to any contact with the sacred. People could not pray until they had laughed, because laughter opens and frees from rigid preconception. Humans had to have tricksters within the most sacred ceremonies for fear that they forget the sacred comes through upset, reversal, surprise. The trickster in most native traditions is essential to creation, to birth.[14]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_in_sheep%27s_clothing
cddad2 No.4582636
>>4569239 you can insinuate 'n yap on about Maurice Strong' gaia occult all you like - butt that means nothing to us.
[you] state that you " only share love of Truth "?
you think you know TRUTH?
ok, b4 we pass the T.T.T. and S.L. [you] Test : … pray tell - what is the root cause for suffering on earth today?
and what are the ELOHIM?
and what do prion proteins do?
and what do DO think i am worth?
salivating…
43551c No.4583687
>>4582636
>what are the ELOHIM?
b084ef No.4584006
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>4573300
A great 10 min video explaining how judaism has been infiltrated and subverted by babylonian occultists via the Talmud.
e97ef7 No.4587559
>>4587471
This is why it's so important to understand the law "of the spirit."
The "same spirit" of those that "prevail with God" (the essential meaning of Israel)
is with and in and defining of those that stand for Truth today.
It has nothing to do with the "idolatry" of some God-forsaken dust-bowl.
665c98 No.4590560
>>4578097
2 Timothy 2:16
But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness,
>>4578097
6173fd No.4592967
>>4590560
Romans 1:18
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Romans 7:21
I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Matthew 10:27
What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light:
Acts 26:18
To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
Romans 13:12
The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
The first cloak of darkness to shed off is dishonesty. The second, hypocrisy.
No liar is free, but is a captive. of darkness
Here is the voice of a free man, the recipient of God's Mercy in Christ:
1 Tim.
15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
Few are called to aspire to the chief of sinners seat, because it is a bitter pill to swallow.
Captives are led to lie, and hide, in predictable fashions.
Hear the voice of devils in believers?
Matthew 7:22
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
A free man in Christ will understand that every Word of the above is applicable to us (Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4), or more accurately, the darkness we all bear in the flesh.
ALL work iniquity. Sin is of the devil.
Again, hear a free man in Christ:
Romans 7:
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Jesus' Words above are the last divide statements, unto devils in believers.
Believe and receive.
The same truthful facts Paul laid upon himself, post salvation, can not come forth from the mouths of liars and hypocrites.
It is impossible for liars to tell the truth. Their mouths are shut up, and their tongues can not speak truthfully.
When was the time that any heard from a religious leader that evil was present with them, that they did evil, that they are the chief of sinners, that they have a devil in their flesh, and that their sin is of the devil?
Never!
Yet these were the statements of Paul.
Romans 7:7-13, Romans 7:17-21, 2 Cor. 12:7, 1 Tim. 1:15
Follow the leader or follow the hypocrite liars?
Paul takes our flesh to uncomfortable places.
636b99 No.4593283
>>4581002
>>4581002
You are a git. Of course many words we use derive from Greek. Using the word Hermeneutics to mean the interpretation of language does not make the interpretation of language occult.
You use hermeneutics to interpret language. You are just too ignorant of the formal practice to know that you do.
The 'Word' did not just suddenly show up in the NT. John is interpreting Ge 1:1 in John 1:1-4.
Bara, translated 'created' is the son 'bar' who spoke and ceated teh heavens and the earth 'a'. Because God spoke when he created, even modern rabbis admit that bara is also understood as the Word which created.
Bara ברא is in bereshith בראשית so John says 'In the beginning was the word". Bara is next to elohim, so John says "and the Word was with God". Bara is the Son who created, so John says, "and the Word was God."
Now when God said 'אמר' 'Let there be light'. He created light by the lamb 'אמר'. Said (which is also 'word') is the same word as 'lamb'.
When John the Baptist said "Behold the lamb of God" some heard him say "Behold the Word of God."
John did not invent the usage of the Word to refer to Jesus, he got it from the OT., and merely tried to explain it to the Greeks.
–
His name
The first unspeakable name of God comes from the invisible and silent aleph at the beginning of Ge 1:1. The letter derives its meaning from teh strokes that form it. א is formed by יוי which would be pronounced something like 'ee-oo-wee' similar to Yahweh.
Yahweh is the name God told Moses to use; he was told to say it. His name hidden in the aleph is unspeakable because the aleph is a silent letter, meaning "God spoke and created the heavens and the earth" (Its primordial meaning is 'creation by separation'). It is invisible at the start of Ge 1:1 because when God spoke and created the heavens and the earth, there was no one there to see or hear him do it.
His name Yahweh was known before God gave it to Moses, but by the reputation (shem means both 'name' and 'reputation') of Yahweh, he was not known. Yahweh means 'creator of calamity' (י-הוה) by which Pharaoh would soon know him as he caused the plagues to come upon Egypt.
Elohim means 'God separated from man by ignorance אל-ה-ים
Yashua is Yaweh with a 'sh' in the middle, meaning 'Yahweh with a marriage in his heart'. It also is a close pun to Yashuach, meaning 'God humbled' speaking of his incarnation, and fulfilling the prophecy of Immanuel 'God with us'.
Why do you compare translations to try to make a point other than ignorance? If you want to know the meaning of a Hebrew word, it comes from the combination of the meanings of the letters which form it.
See the hermeneutic of 'sensus plenior'
636b99 No.4593883
>>4455888
Good observation. If a symbol is not the same everywhere it is not a good symbol.
Leaven is 'teaching' . There is the teaching of God, which forms his kingdom, and the teaching of the Pharisees which we were warned to stay away from.
This explains why it can be use differently.
Otherwise it is up to some man to tell you when it means one thing or the other. It is generic teaching, and the context tells you if it is good or bad.
Jesus was the untaught teacher. They got rid of the old teaching before Passover (a symbol of the cross) in order to prepare for the new teaching of the cross. Jesus said, "You have heard it said… but I say".
If you believe it means different things different places you are practicing free-for-all allegory. There are no controls on that.
43551c No.4593959
It has often been pointed out that if a person really believes Genesis 1:1, he will not find it difficult to believe anything else recorded in the Bible. That is, if God really created all things, then He controls all things and can do all things.
Furthermore, this one verse refutes all of man’s false philosophies concerning the origin and meaning of the world:
(1) It refutes atheism, because the universe was created by God.
(2) It refutes pantheism, for God is transcendent to that which He created.
(3) It refutes polytheism, for one God created all things.
(4) It refutes materialism, for matter had a beginning.
(5) It refutes dualism, because God was alone when He created.
(6) It refutes humanism, because God, not man, is the ultimate reality.
(7) It refutes evolutionism, because God created all things.
Actually all such false philosophies are merely different ways of expressing the same unbelief. Each one proposes that there is no personal, transcendent God; that ultimate reality is to be found in the eternal cosmos itself; and that the development of the universe into its present form is contingent solely on the innate properties of its own components. In essence, each of the above philosophies embraces all the others. Dualism, for example, is a summary form of polytheism, which is the popular expression of pantheism, which presupposes materialism, which functions in terms of evolutionism, which finds its consummation in humanism, which culminates in atheism.
The entire system could well be called the system of atheistic evolutionary humanism. Other philosophical ideas could also be incorporated into the same monstrous structure: naturalism, uniformitarianism, deism, agnosticism, monism, determinism, pragmatism, and others. All are arrayed in opposition to the great truth—marvelously simple, and understandable to a child, yet inexhaustibly profound—that “in the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.”
Morris, H. M. (1976). The Genesis record: a scientific and devotional commentary on the book of beginnings (pp. 37–38). Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books.
636b99 No.4594071
>>4460904
Under the hermeneutic of sensus plenior, everything Jesus said has a demonstrable OT source.
The Lord's prayer, for instance, is an application of Psalm 23. If you don't bother to research and understand that, you are simply lazy, and claim that it was original to Jesus.
43551c No.4594117
>>4594055
Marriage is: one man, one woman (Gen. 2:18–24) in covenant (Matt. 19:6) for life (Rom. 7:2, 3).
636b99 No.4594199
>>4579079
Poor logic. "If God does not show it to the most ignorant or rebellious, he is not God."
He said Seek, search, study, ask.
Look at Acts 12.
Herod had vexed the church, but he had also vexed Christ.
Paul and Jesus were both arrested before Passover.
They were both put between two.
They were both poked in the side.
The light shown in both places.
There were three barriers to escape: two sets of guards and a gate, two days in death and a stone.
The gate and stone opened themselves.
Jesus saw Mary, and Peter went to mary's house.
Both women ran to tell the disciples.
Both were told that they were crazy.
When they finished visiting with the disciples, both went to another place.
The mystery of Christ hidden in the literal historical is not plain to the most ignorant, unwilling and rebellious.
The whole of the OT is written that way, always with a picture of Christ just under the surface.
Acts 12 is lecture notes from the teaching of the apostles. It is not intended to be understood with out teachers. But once taught, it is plainly seen by all.
The 'secret glasses' to see the mystery are available to all. Few put them on.
See sensus plenior
43551c No.4594287
>>4594118
> She ran off with a godless shithead. I was released from responsibility due to her infidelity…
My evil husband did the same thing. Doesn’t make us not married (Rom. 7:2, 3).
> …I had the chance to sue for the dough but by then she gave it to 6 or more bed mates.
Christians are not to sue (1 Co 6:6). You are responsible for what you do to her, too. God will do right by you (Ge 18:25). She isn’t getting away with sin (Ga 6:7, Heb 13:4).
> She is the model for the Whore of Babylon. Did it to me in SoCal. Courts protected her until they saw the evidence of theft.
Marriage means nothing to them. Doesn’t mean it shouldn’t mean something to you (Mt 5:37).
> I was gracious and let her off the hook for the sake of the kids, then they hooked up with her when she married a rich moron, who she promptly fleeced and then he died from cancer in 3 years.
Your kids will give an account, too. Were they too evil to implement church discipline? Mt 18.
> [W]ho knows? She may repent, but after 30 years of it, I kinda doubt it.
“There’s always hope. There’s just no chance.” ~ Dennis Prager
Being a good husband means continuing to pray for her.
> Took the kids with her straight to Hell. Even my pastor was stunned at the shit she did. For decades we watched her. She said to me, in so many words, "Curse God and die."
Payday someday (Heb 10:27). I hope your kids change course (Pr 22:6).
Recommend reading:
The Divorce Myth by J. Carl Laney
Divorce & Re”marriage”: A Position Paper by John Piper http://www.desiringgod.org/articles/divorce-remarriage-a-position-paper
Recommended sites:
Christian Divorce and Remarriage https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxN7-jaU4JtzOHTsUrVKCwQ/feed?reload=9
Marriage Permanence https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKIhZUhYUaLecZHNEDv0hug
636b99 No.4594418
>>4463727
>Why else do we celebrate the birth of their pagan sun-god ad "Christmas?"
Well.. Jesus said that the bread of Passover/last supper represented his body given for us. It is a symbol of the cross. Eating is a metaphor for learning, so we eat in remembrance of him.
Bread is formed from the seed of grasses. It is ground and baked, both symbols of tribulation.
He learned obedience by the things he suffered.
The seed is called the Word of God in the parables. But Jesus is the Word of God, so he is the seed. He is even called the seed of the woman in Genesis.
The ancient prophecy says that the grass was given to the cattle to eat. Those ignorant of prophecy read that literally and think God had to tell us that cattle eat grass. Doh.
So at Christmas, we put the seed of the grass, destined to be the bread, in a feeding trough surrounded by cattle (sheep representing us) as a promise of the cross.
It is a celebration of the same cross as we have in baptism and communion. Pagans may have adopted various meanings, but the original source for Jesus being the Word is Gen 1:1, The Seed is Gen 3. He fulfills prophecy and I celebrate it at Christmas.
Careful when you start judging his people unjustly.
636b99 No.4594669
>>4453151
>Due to you not knowing the scriptures, no surprise your response sounds like generic babbling.
You do not address the topic. Is ad hominem the best you have?
Hebrew 10.1 The law, having a shadow of the good things coming….
If you cannot interpret the 'shadow' of the law, you cannot interpret scripture.
Jesus fulfilled the shadow of the law of the Nazarite, the Leper, the murderer and the adulterer. Until you can explain how, I suggest you lurk more.
636b99 No.4594941
>>4453165
>The NOTABLE part is how void of God's knowledge and word you are. Good job
I am irrelevant. You can do better than continued ad hominem attacks.
The Greek word used for 'scripture' simply means 'writings'. It does not mean 'Magic writings'. The NT is valuable because it contains the teaching of the Apostles who were taught by Jesus, but forgot what he taught, and then they were reminded of what he taught by the Holy Spirit.
The first church did not need the New Testament because the apostles taught from the Old and from their memory of what Jesus had done and from the hermeneutic he taught them to use to read the OT.
They interpreted the OT in light of their memory of what Jesus had done.
The scriptures that Jesus referred to were the OT, which had been collected over time and kept in the temple. When they were in captivity, the Holy things were made common. The scriptures became available more widely.
A set was found when the temple was restored and carefully copied and guarded until the time of Christ. We know what the scriptures are and need no church council to tell us.
This does not mean the writings of the apostles are not valuable. But they must be read in light of Greek misunderstandings of Hebrew.
The 'mustard seed' is the 'bruised' seed referring to the seed of the woman in Gen 3. The Greek sounds like the Hebrew.
Agape is a Hebrew word meaning 'the combatants' Agape love is the love you give your enemy with no expectation of return. While we were sinners and enemies of God, Christ died for us. The Greek sounds like the Hebrew.
Mammon is a Hebrew word meaning 'the believing ones'. You cannot serve God and self. The Syriac sounds like the Hebrew.
5012e9 No.4595353
>>4594199
Thanks anon.
A good example of a case in which the principle of “sensus plenior” must be applied is Moses' striking the rock in the wilderness, so that water flowed out to nourish the people. This passage relates a very real historical event, and its most basic level of meaning refers simply to a physical rock that flowed with physical water; but this event was also a type of how Christ, the Rock of our Salvation, was struck with the rod of divine justice, and henceforth there flowed from his wounded body the forgiveness and spiritual life that we need. In other words, there is a “sensus plenior,” or deeper meaning to this event than just the real, historical occurrence. In 1 Corinthians 10:4, Paul gives express instruction for us to see a “sensus plenior” in this passage; and a little later, he says that all the things recorded in the Old Testament were written as “types” for our instruction (1 Cor. 10:11), thus giving us warrant to see a “sensus
plenior” in all the scriptures.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mongerism&t=ffnt&ia=web
ccf768 No.4595358
>>4594941
Denying the inspiration of the Holy Spirit in the New Testament is anti-Christian to its core.
ccf768 No.4595395
>>4595353
Moses was told to speak to the rock.
Moses struck the rock instead.
The Rock is Christ Jesus.
If you see the rock Moses struck, it appears to be a huge broken heart with rock flowing from it like water.
For his sin, Moses was denied entry into the Promised Land.
It was not, as you say, a model of how Christ was struck with the "rod of divine Justice", as Christ would never be struck with the "rod of divine Justice", being God.
ccf768 No.4595406
ccf768 No.4595426
>>4523793
That question goes to the heart of what Jesus meant by "you will do greater things than I" in sharing the gospel to the world. His ministry was quite short and quite limited. But the ministry of the Holy Spirit through us is massive, and worldwide, and will bring many into the fold.
ccf768 No.4595436
>>4526855
You might enjoy the movie "Tribes".
ccf768 No.4595452
>>4553301
Here's something you need to know about Hope.
You cannot have Hope if you have hope. It is a paradox. By holding on to the (false) hope as you do, you deny yourself the true Hope that comes from God. So you basically have one "hope slot", and if you fill it with your own hope, you deny God the slot He needs in your life to give you true Hope, which is Christ Jesus.
5012e9 No.4595638
>>4595395
Okay. I just looked up sensus plenoir because I was unfamiliar with that term. I didn't say that; it was a quote from a theology website. I'm just a thirsty Christian that just came to this thread today. You guys should post a note at the top that this place is for "experts only".
636b99 No.4595640
>>4595395
Apparently you can't read English either.
The New Testament authors forgot what Jesus taught, but were reminded by the Holy Spirit. ←See this: INSPIRED.
Now you show me in scripture where I am required to believe magic words, which weren't defined to be magic until hundreds of years later.
You have a tradition that says John couldn't read the Hebrew Genesis and needed a magic word to get 'Logos'. I prefer to read the word itself. Which of us doesn't believe the word?
You prefer to believe the tradition of a church that lost it's first love: Deified Mary.
Welcomed the Judaisers: adopted Jewish ritual.
Practiced the doctrine of Balaam: Compromise with governement and flesh.
And Conquered the laity : Nicolaitans.
Furthermore they killed their enemies : defined by a mere disagreement of doctrine, rather than loving them; further demonstrating that they had no respect or understanding for the word of God.
If I am a heretic to you, I am happy to be.
636b99 No.4595683
>>4595638
sensus plenior is the 'expert' term for what Paul calls the 'mystery' and which would be easy to read if you understood Hebrew as a little child; playing riddles.
636b99 No.4595742
636b99 No.4595789
>>4595358
Nothing I have said denies scripture. My examples are of the Greek imposition of meaning on the scriptures. It still says mammon and agape, it is your tradition in the meaning that makes it wrong.
636b99 No.4595849
>>4595395
If Christ was not struck with the rod, then he did not die for sin and you are still condemned.
He bore our sins. It was not an illusion.
ccf768 No.4596185
>>4595849
Yes, He bore OUR sins. He was struck for US.
Not for Himself.
Remember Daniel?
He Himself had no sins.
ccf768 No.4596197
>>4595638
Aye, I had no idea what the term meant, only that the other Anon was misleading people in error, whether knowingly or not. Seminary ruins people who might otherwise have become believers.
ccf768 No.4596214
>>4595640
You are not required to believe anything, much less "magic words".
Believe whatever you want to believe.
I have no traditions that prevent me from being taught the scriptures by the only teacher Who matters. In fact, I shun the traditions of men, knowing that God deems them foolish at best. Where do you think Plato got the idea for the Logos? Maybe from Genesis?
43551c No.4596219
>>4596185
>Remember Daniel?
>He Himself had no sins.
False. He included himself in his prayer.
We have sinned and committed iniquity, we have done wickedly and rebelled, even by departing from Your precepts and Your judgments. Neither have we heeded Your servants the prophets, who spoke in Your name to our kings and our princes, to our fathers and all the people of the land. O Lord, righteousness belongs to You, but to us shame of face, as it is this day—to the men of Judah, to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and all Israel, those near and those far off in all the countries to which You have driven them, because of the unfaithfulness which they have committed against You.
“O Lord, to us belongs shame of face, to our kings, our princes, and our fathers, because we have sinned against You. To the Lord our God belong mercy and forgiveness, though we have rebelled against Him. We have not obeyed the voice of the Lord our God, to walk in His laws, which He set before us by His servants the prophets. Yes, all Israel has transgressed Your law, and has departed so as not to obey Your voice; therefore the curse and the oath written in the Law of Moses the servant of God have been poured out on us, because we have sinned against Him. And He has confirmed His words, which He spoke against us and against our judges who judged us, by bringing upon us a great disaster; for under the whole heaven such has never been done as what has been done to Jerusalem.
“As it is written in the Law of Moses, all this disaster has come upon us; yet we have not made our prayer before the Lord our God, that we might turn from our iniquities and understand Your truth. Therefore the Lord has kept the disaster in mind, and brought it upon us; for the Lord our God is righteous in all the works which He does, though we have not obeyed His voice. And now, O Lord our God, who brought Your people out of the land of Egypt with a mighty hand, and made Yourself a name, as it is this day—we have sinned, we have done wickedly! The New King James Version. (1982). (Da 9:5–15). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
ccf768 No.4596234
>>4595789
It absolutely does.
2 Peter 3
14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; 15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
The writings of Paul are confirmed as part of the "rest of the Scriptures."
Are you a Jew?
ccf768 No.4596285
>>4595640
>The New Testament authors forgot what Jesus taught
Error 1
>which weren't defined to be magic until hundreds of years later.
Error 2
>You have a tradition that says John couldn't read the Hebrew Genesis
Error 3
>You prefer to believe the tradition of a church that lost it's first love: Deified Mary.
Dueling Error 4
>Welcomed the Judaisers: adopted Jewish ritual.
Error 5
>Practiced the doctrine of Balaam: Compromise with governement and flesh.
Error 6
>defined by a mere disagreement of doctrine,
Error 7
>I am happy to be.
Error 8
636b99 No.4596580
>>4596234
You have not demonstrated that 'scripture' refers to anything other than 'writings'.
Do you claim that all 'writings' are God-breathed and therefore mine are as well?
Where did you get a list of writings which are considered magic? If mine are not. (which is not a claim I make)
And again you ignore the affirmation that the Apostles were inspired to teach. Are you intentionally ignoring my affirmations of such inspiration? My claim is that the Greek interpretation of such writings is in error.
You have no basis to claim any canon except from a corrupt church who murdered people and conquered the laity. You have only tradition. Whereas I can prove the interpretation of NT doctrine by the OT. Same as Paul did.
You would extrapolate my claim that the NT must be read in context of the OT as a denial of some Christian standard of inspiration that Christians can't even agree upon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_inspiration
And based on that squishy definition you are willing to declare me a heretic and start some fires for the BBQ. Again, I am unimportant. Fire away.
Let me say it plainly so that you cannot misunderstand except by choice.
NT doctrine is derived from OT prophecy and is proven by it. Nothing Paul or the other NT authors said does not have it's origin in the OT.
The corrupted gentile church has enforced a cartoon version of Christianity upon the church in order to maintain control. The Gentiles did not want to be Jewish and so they asked for and got "Christianity-lite" knowing only Christ and him crucified and ignoring the deep mystery of Christ hidden from the beginning.
Your ignorance of OT sources for NT teaching is not an excuse to call everyone a heretic who does not believe what you parrot from your corrupted church.
Now I claim everything in the NT has an OT source. You claim they got it magically. My claim can be validated. Yours can only be parroted in blind faith.
Have fun with that. And if you are too lazy to discern the teaching of Christ from the previous posts, you do not deserve an answer to your continuing ad hominem attacks.
Consider yourself ignored.
636b99 No.4596693
>>4596285
For others:
>The New Testament authors forgot what Jesus taught
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
>which weren't defined to be magic until hundreds of years later.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_the_New_Testament_canon#Clement_of_Rome
As you go through the various collections, be sure to label those church fathers as heretic who don't believe in our modern canon.
>You have a tradition that says John couldn't read the Hebrew Genesis
He got Logos from Philo rather than Gen 1:1 according to your Greek traditions
The rest are history… do your own sauce.
ccf768 No.4596760
>>4596580
All scripture is inspired by God….
Therefore, any writing not inspired by God, is not scripture.
Any writing inspired by God, is scripture.
Magic is of the devil, your father, so I know little about it, and leave that up to you to decide for yourself.
Yes, you cast doubt on the Word of God, because, again, you are a child of the devil, and that is the first attack the devil made on Adam and Eve: "Did God really say that?….."
I never said you were a heretic.
You're a lost person, a child of satan, who seeks to lead other people to hell with you. By your own word.
The Old Testament foreshadows the New; the New reveals the Old.
Your asinine assumptions about me, beginning with the absolutely baseless and ridiculous charge of being a papist, come from your complete and utter lack of self awareness and spiritual discernment.
Are you a Jew?
ccf768 No.4596781
>>4596693
>>The New Testament authors forgot what Jesus taught
>Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Does not state that the NT authors forgot anything.
*mumbles in papist*
Has nothing to do with Jesus Christ.
The authors of the bible cited many others; Paul cited several philosophers, for instance. Plato had no concept of who the true Logos, the Word, was. And neither do you.
cddad2 No.4596891
suc-it up ya demonic blood-sacrificing tards :
http://www.thenazareneway.com/index_vegetarian.htm
every meaty mouthful is your anti-live pledge - known by your dirty deeds
http://www.thenazareneway.com/index_vegetarian.htm
ccf768 No.4596975
>>4596891
Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.”
“Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’
636b99 No.4597043
>>4596781
English is not your strong suit. The holy Spirit reminded them.. not necessary if they remembered.
You assume Paul cited your beloved Greek philosophers because you impose Greek mythology on the Bible and are too lazy to learn Hebrew.
Your church said that the Greek Septuagint, a mere translation of the original Hebrew, was more reliable than the original Hebrew.
No wonder you parrot the Greek philosophy and myths rather than study the source in the Hebrew OT.
You are too lazy to even research the source referenced above.. <<4593283 But make claims I don't know the source of John's Logos. No sauce, just attacks.
I guess you are a lazy muhPhilo shill.
ccf768 No.4597112
>>4597043
It's difficult to converse with dead people, so please bear with me. When the Holy Spirit inspired Job to write about what happened in heaven between God and satan, did the Holy Spirit "remind" Job of what he already knew, or did the Holy Spirit bring "all things" to his rememberance, as though he was there?
Of course you cannot understand these things; you do not have the Holy Spirit as a teacher, instead leaning on your own understanding. You have cited as a proof text for "the apostles forgot everything about Jesus" the "Holy Spirit bringing all things to their rememberance", not even hinting at an understanding that "all things" did not limit itself by their own personal experiences.
Not do you know that men write the scripture as inspired by the Holy Spirit, and then form groups with other men to find out what they just wrote means.
How could you?
Are you a Jew?
07a798 No.4597118
>>4438539
NOTICE SOMETHING TRUMP ALWAYS SAYS?
Trump ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY HE IS MAKING OUR NATION - YET OUR NATIONS CITIZENS GET F+CKED, RAPED AND MURDERED?
SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A RICH PRIORITY PERSON ON WHO #1 ISSUE IS MONEY? YET THE PEOPLEs SAFETY AND WELL BEING IS BEING SH+T ON BY TRUMP AND NOT #1 BUT 2 OR LOWER?!!!
SEE IT???? He always brags of all the money he's bringing into the nation, and F+CKS THE PEOPLE!!!! WHO GIVES A SH+T ABOUT THE MONEY - SEE HOW OUR LIVES ARE MEANINGLESS AND NOT THE #1 PRIORITY!???
US CITIZEN'S LIVES HAVE A PRICE AND IT YOU ARE ALL BEING TREATED BELOW MONEY! SO HOW DO YOU FEEL KNOWING YOUR LIVES ARE BELOW THAT OF MONEY TRUMPS ALWAYS GETTING? Proof money is more valuable then people!!!!!!
TRUMP = ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY COMING INTO OUR NATION>>>>>>>
Money is a CANCER and more important then WE THE PEOPLE! F'ck THE MONEY AND SAVE OUR PEOPLE! So Trump, your priorities are WRONG! Whats the value of your childrens lives? So money is superior to them? FU!!!!
See how you are the dildo and the bike ride?
ccf768 No.4597142
>>4597043
Only one of us makes baseless, foolish, and false assumptions.
1Cor 15:33
Evil communications corrupt good manners.
Quoted from Thais, a work done by “Menander“, a writer from the 3rd Century BC, who in turn is supposed to have quoted from another Scholar named “Euripides”.
Titus 1:12
The Cretians are always liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
In writing to Titus Paul quotes a description of the Cretans taken from “Epimenides“. Paul calls Epimenides “one of themselves, a prophet of their own”.
Acts 17:24-29
In Acts 17:18 Paul is encountered by Epicureans and Stoics. Paul’s first sentence struck directly at the “Epicurean” theory (the origin of the world by mere coincidence and of atoms) and arrayed himself with the “Stoics” in their doctrine of the (Divine Wisdom and Providence creating and ruling all things). His speech is made up of words quoted from a Roman Stoic Philosopher called Lucius Annaeus Seneca as mentioned below.
Acts 17:24
Paul went on to say, “God dwelleth not in temples made with hands.”
Seneca, the most prominent contemporary representative of Stoicism, had put their doctrine into these words, “The whole world is the temple of the immortal gods,” and “Temples are not to be built to God of stones piled on high. He must be consecrated in the heart of every man.”
Acts 17:25
Paul said, “Neither is God served by men’s hands, as though he needed anything, seeing he himself giveth to all life, and breath, and all things.”
Seneca put the same truth in this form: “God wants not ministers. How so? He himself ministereth to the human race.”
ccf768 No.4597149
>>4597043
Acts 17:26-28a
Paul said, “God made of one every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth.”
Seneca agrees, “We are members of a vast body. Nature made us kin, when she produced us from the same things and to the same ends.”
Paul said, “God is not far from each one of us; for in him we live, and move, and have our being.”
Seneca wrote, “God is at hand everywhere and to all men.” and again, “God is near thee ; he is with thee ; he is within.”
Acts 17:28b
Paul says, For we are also his offspring.
In Paul’s speech at Athens, he quotes from “certain of your own poets”. The poet he is talking about is Aratus, and this is a line found in the Phaenomena of Aratus
Acts 17:29
Then Paul proceeded, “Being then the offspring of God, we ought not to think the godhead is like unto gold or silver or stone, graven by art or device of men.”
Seneca parallels the thought again: “Thou shalt not form him of silver and gold: a true likeness of God cannot be molded of this material.
Gal 5:23b
Paul says, Against such there is no law.
Roman 2:14b
Paul says, Are a law unto themselves.
Paul’s words are eerily familiar to Aristotle‘s saying of men eminent for wisdom and virtue, “Against such there is no law, for they themselves are a law,”
ccf768 No.4597152
>>4597043
1Cor 9:24a
Paul says, “Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize?
Plato says, “But such as are true racers, arriving at the end, both receive the prizes and are crowned”
Rom 7:22,23
Paul says, “But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.”
Plato says,”There is a victory and defeat – the first and best of victories, the lowest and worst of defeats – which each man gains or sustains at the hands not of another, but of himself; this shows that there is a war against ourselves – going on in every individual of us.”
Phillip 3:19
Paul says, “Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things“.
Plato gives a vivid description of those gluttonous and intemperate souls whose belly was their God, in Plato’s work called “the Republic”.
Rom 8:5
Paul says, “For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh;”
Gal 6:8
Paul says, “For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption”
Plato speaks of “to be carnally-minded was death” in Phaedo
2 Cor 4:4
Paul says, “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not”
Plato speaks of “the God of this world blindeth the eyes of his votaries” in Theaetetus
In the book Paul and His Epistles – D.A. Hayes writes “Plato would have pictured for him the truth that the God of this world blindeth the eyes of his votaries, and Paul never could have forgotten the picture when he had once read it.” – Theaet., 176; Rep., 7, 514
(Please note that the above point has been corrected as rightly pointed out by dear brother, Dan Angelov – my sincere apologies for misquoting it before) I wish to thank Angelov for re-checking the post and communicating this correction.
Php 1:21
Paul says, “For me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.”
Plato says, “Now if death is like this, I say that to die is gain.”
2Tim 4:6
Paul says, “I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand
To be with Christ, which is far better.”
Plato says, “The hour of departure has arrived, and we go our ways, I to die and you to live. which is better God only knows.
ccf768 No.4597158
>>4597043
1Cor 13:12
Paul says, “For now we see through a glass, darkly, but then face to face.”
Plato says, I am very far from admitting that he who contemplates existences through the medium of thought, sees them only “through a glass, darkly,” anymore than he who sees them in their working effects.
1Thess 5:15
Paul says, “See that none render evil for evil unto any man.”
Plato says, Then we ought not to retaliate or render evil for evil to anyone, whatever evil we may have suffered from him.
1Co 8:2
Paul says, “And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.
Socrates says, For my part, as I went away, I reasoned with regard to myself: “I am wiser than this human being. For probably neither of us knows anything noble and good, but he supposes he knows something when he does not know, while I, just as I do not know, do not even suppose that I do. I am likely to be a little bit wiser than he in this very thing: that whatever I do not know, I do not even suppose I know. (Apology, 21d – kindly submitted by Brother Joseph)
1Cor 9:16
Paul says, “For necessity is laid upon me ; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!”
Plato says, But necessity was laid upon me – the word of God I thought ought to be considered first.
Acts 14:15
Paul and Barnabas say, “We also are men of like passions with you“.
Plato says, I am a man, and, like other men, a creature of flesh and blood, and not of ” wood or stone,” as Homer says.
2Cor 7:2
Paul says, “I speak because I am convinced that I never intentionally wronged anyone“.
Plato says, We have wronged no man ; we have corrupted no man ; we have defrauded no man.
Rom 12:4
Paul says, “For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office“.
Socrates says “To begin with, our several natures are not all alike but different. One man is naturally fitted for one task, and another for another.”
ccf768 No.4597164
>>4597043
Eph 1:22,23
Paul says, “And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.”
Plato says “First, then, the gods, imitating the spherical shape of the universe, enclosed the two divine courses in a spherical body, that, namely, which we now term the head, being the most divine part of us and the lord of all that is in us; to this the gods, when they put together the body, gave all the other members to be servants.”
1Cor 12:14-17
Paul explains that “a body is not one single organ, but many. … Suppose the ear were to say, ‘Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body’, it does still belong to the body. If the body were all eye, how could it hear? If the body were all ear, how could it smell? But, in fact, God appointed each limb and organ to its own place in the body, as he chose.”
Socrates asks Protagoras, “Is virtue a single whole, and are justice and self-control and holiness parts of it? … as the parts of a face are parts-mouth, nose, eyes and ears.” Socrates then probes into the metaphor further by asking Protagoras if they agree that each part serves a different purpose, just as the features of a face do, and the parts make the whole, but each serves a different purpose–“the eye is not like the ear nor has it the same function.”
1Co 12:25
Paul says “That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.”
Socrates says, that the best-governed city is one “whose state is most like that of an individual man. For example, if the finger of one of us is wounded, the entire community of bodily connections stretching to the soul for ‘integration’ with the dominant part is made aware, and all of it feels the pain as a whole”
Now, you were saying something about my grasp of the English language?
Care to continue?
636b99 No.4597390
>>4597164
Copy and paste rather than think?
Which church father said that the Greek plagiarized the wisdom of the Hebrews. Clement?
So you simply copy the Greeks. lol point made. Thanks.
You have made apostles out of Greek authors and elevated Greek philosophy rather than accept the wisdom of the Hebrew scriptures.
lol
Most excellent!
636b99 No.4597410
>>4597390
You would rather believe that Paul copied Greek philosophers… and call this inspired,l than he properly read teh OT in light of Christ.
Who is the pagan here?
43551c No.4597545
>>4596580
>You have not demonstrated that 'scripture' refers to anything other than 'writings'.
The scriptures came from the prophets (Rom. 16:26). The Bible is the word of truth (Jas 1:18).
07a798 No.4597575
>>4595789
>>4596234
2 Timothy 2:14
Remind them of these things, and charge them before God not to quarrel about words, which does no good, but only ruins the hearers.
07a798 No.4597593
>>4597142
Proverbs 21:6
The getting of treasures by a lying tongue is a fleeting vapor and a snare of death.
07a798 No.4597614
>>4597142
>>4597149
>>4597152
>>4597158
>>4597164
2 Corinthians 11:14
And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
ccf768 No.4597721
>>4597390
>>4597410
Schizophrenic much?
ccf768 No.4597730
>>4597593
>>4597614
If you have a point to make, please make it.
636b99 No.4597913
>>4597721
>>>4597164
They both are responses to >>4593283
lousy linking does not make one schizo ;)
The Greek church claims inspiration for the NT authors as they claim the authors were inspired to copy Greek philosophers, who they say plagiarized Hebrew wisdom.
But call you a heretic if you say they went straight to the Hebrew source lol
Paul taught the Bereans who validated his doctrine against the OT scriptures they had. They did not check him against Seneca and Philo, and would have run him out of town if he had made the claim that the Greek philosophers were his source.
636b99 No.4597924
Dang I couldnt get that link right either lol
>>4597142 and the long string of copy paste.
ccf768 No.4598019
>>4597913
When you lie, you do the work of the devil.
As on Mars Hill, Paul started with what his audience was familiar with, and went to tell them that their "Unknown God" was Christ Jesus.
As I worship the truth, I do not fear any new information; the truth is always on Jesus' side, and lies are always on your side.
Are you a Jew? I find it ponderous that you cannot answer that question, as you already have shown an appetite for lying.
ccf768 No.4598080
>>4597924
Do you question the validity of any of the cited examples of Paul using the local's philosophers and intellectuals as a jumping off point to teach them the gospel of Jesus Christ?
No?
Nothing?
Just attacking them as "copy paste"?
636b99 No.4598103
>>4598019
I have been teaching Christ and the cross, and that Paul taught Christ and the cross from the OT. Are you a moron? Do you not believe that in Christ there is no Jew or Greek? Obviously you are not in Christ. Your question is irrelevant.
You choose to make the discussion about me rather than the subject. I find it ponderous that you insist upon some label so you can extrapolate to some straw-man argument. Check your Greek logic… that's a fallacy and I wont play into your game.
You have not answered the Hebrew source for Logos. You have not demonstrated any lies, you have merely made ad hominem attacks.
636b99 No.4598148
>>4598080
You dont read or respond to what you have..
>>4597913 answers all you quotes of Greek philosophers. Your God has to copy from them in order to inspire his apostles.
You still have not answered the Logos from Ge 1:1 Yet insist, by implication that I must be a Jew even though I am affirming that Jesus is the WORD Logos, derived from Amar, and bara rather than your APOSTLE PHILO.
43551c No.4598156
WORD IS GOD—WORD BECAME FLESH—WORD REVEALED GOD
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God [John 1:1].
The Gospel of John introduces the Lord Jesus Christ with three tremendous statements:
“In the beginning was the Word,”
“And the Word was with God,”
“And the Word was God.”
“The Word” is one of the highest and most profound titles of the Lord Jesus Christ. To determine the exact meaning is not easy. Obviously the Lord Jesus Christ is not the logos of Greek philosophy; rather He is the memra of the Hebrew Scriptures. Notice how important the Word is in the Old Testament. For instance, the name for Jehovah was never pronounced. It was such a holy word that they never used it at all. But this is the One who is the Word and, gathering up everything that was said of Him in the Old Testament, He is now presented as the One “In the beginning.” This beginning antedates the very first words in the Bible, “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.” That beginning can be dated, although I do not believe that anyone can date it accurately—it is nonsense to say that it is 4004 B.C., as Ussher’s dating has it. It probably goes back billions and billions of years. You see, you and I are dealing with the God of eternity. When you go back to creation, He is already there, and that is exactly the way this is used—“in the beginning was the Word.” Notice it is not is the Word; it was not in the beginning that the Word started out or was begotten. Was (as Dr. Lenske points out) is known as a durative imperfect, meaning continued action. It means that the Word was in the beginning. What beginning? Just as far back as you want to go. The Bible says, “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth” (Gen. 1:1). Does that begin God? No, just keep on going back billions and trillions and “squillions” of years. I can think back to billions of years back of creation—maybe you can go beyond that—but let’s put down a point there, billions of years back of creation. He already was; He comes out of eternity to meet us. He did not begin. “In the beginning was the Word”—He was already there when the beginning was. “Well,” somebody says, “there has to be a beginning somewhere.” All right, wherever you begin, He is there to meet you, He is already past tense. “In the beginning was the Word”—five words in the original language, and there is not a man on topside of this earth who can put a date on it or understand it or fathom it. This first tremendous statement starts us off in space, you see.
The second statement is this, “and the Word was with God.” This makes it abundantly clear that He is separate and distinct from God the Father. You cannot identify Him as God the Father because He is with God. “But,” someone says, “if He is with God, He is not God.” The third statement sets us straight, “and the Word was God.” This is a clear, emphatic declaration that the Lord Jesus Christ is God. In fact, the Greek is more specific than this, because in the Greek language the important word is placed at the beginning of the sentence and it reads, “God was the Word.” That is emphatic; you cannot get it more emphatic than that. Do you want to get rid of the deity of Christ? My friend, you cannot get rid of it. The first three statements in John’s Gospel tie the thing down. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible commentary: The Gospels (John 1-10) (electronic ed., Vol. 38, pp. 19–20). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
ae7fd2 No.4598201
The idea of mashiach (messiah) is an ancient one in Judaism
The Jewish idea of mashiach is a great human leader like King David, not a savior
There is much speculation about when the mashiach will come
The Bible identifies several tasks that the mashiach will accomplish
Jews do not believe in Jesus because he did not accomplish these tasks
It is written that:
Before the time of the mashiach, there shall be war and suffering (Ezekiel 38:16)
And:
The mashiach will bring about the political and spiritual redemption of the Jewish people by bringing us back to Israel and restoring Jerusalem (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). He will establish a government in Israel that will be the center of all world government, both for Jews and gentiles (Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:10; 42:1). He will rebuild the Temple and re-establish its worship (Jeremiah 33:18). He will restore the religious court system of Israel and establish Jewish law as the law of the land (Jeremiah 33:15)
Jews do not believe that Jesus was the mashiach. Assuming that he existed, and assuming that the Christian scriptures are accurate in describing him (both matters that are debatable from the Jewish perspective), he simply did not fulfill the mission of the mashiach as it is described in the biblical passages cited above. Jesus did not do any of the things that the scriptures said the messiah would do.
On the contrary, another Jew born about a century later came far closer to fulfilling the messianic ideal than Jesus did. His name was Shimeon ben Kosiba, known as Bar Kokhba (son of a star), and he was a charismatic, brilliant, but brutal warlord. Rabbi Akiba, one of the greatest scholars in Jewish history, believed that Bar Kokhba was the mashiach. Bar Kokhba fought a war against the Roman Empire, catching the Tenth Legion by surprise and retaking Jerusalem. He resumed sacrifices at the site of the Temple and made plans to rebuild the Temple. He established a provisional government and began to issue coins in its name. This is what the Jewish people were looking for in a mashiach; Jesus clearly does not fit into this mold. Ultimately, however, the Roman Empire crushed his revolt and killed Bar Kokhba. After his death, all acknowledged that he was not the mashiach.
Throughout Jewish history, there have been many people who have claimed to be the mashiach, or whose followers have claimed that they were the mashiach: Shimeon Bar Kokhba, Shabbatai Tzvi, Jesus, and many others too numerous to name. Leo Rosten reports some very entertaining accounts under the entry for meshiekh in The New Joys of Yiddish. But all of these people died without fulfilling the mission of the mashiach; therefore, none of them were the mashiach. The mashiach and the Olam Ha-Ba lie in the future, not in the past.
Source: http://www.jewfaq.org/m/mashiach.htm
ae7fd2 No.4598203
According to Rabbi Michael J. Cook, Professor of Intertestamental and Early Christian Literature at the Hebrew Union College, there are ten themes in the New Testament that are the greatest sources of anxiety for Jews:
1. The Jews are culpable for crucifying Jesus - as such they are guilty of deicide
2. The tribulations of the Jewish people throughout history constitute God's punishment of them for killing Jesus
3. Jesus originally came to preach only to the Jews, but when they rejected him, he abandoned them for gentiles instead
4. The Children of Israel were God's original chosen people by virtue of an ancient covenant, but by rejecting Jesus they forfeited their chosenness - and now, by virtue of a New Covenant (or "testament"), Christians have replaced the Jews as God's chosen people, the Church having become the "People of God."
5. The Jewish Bible (the so-called "Old Testament") repeatedly portrays the opaqueness and stubbornness of the Jewish people and their disloyalty to God.
6. The Jewish Bible contains many predictions of the coming of Jesus as the Messiah (or "Christ"), yet the Jews are blind to the meaning of their own Bible.
7. By the time of Jesus' ministry, Judaism had ceased to be a living faith.
8. Judaism's essence is a restrictive and burdensome legalism.
9. Christianity emphasizes excessive love, while Judaism maintains a balance of justice, God of wrath and love of peace.
10. Judaism's oppressiveness reflects the disposition of Jesus' opponents called "Pharisees" (predecessors of the "rabbis"), who in their teachings and behavior were hypocrites (see Woes of the Pharisees).
Rabbi Cook believes that both contemporary Jews and contemporary Christians need to reexamine the history of early Christianity, and the transformation of Christianity from a Jewish sect consisting of followers of a Jewish Jesus into a different religion.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_and_the_New_Testament
What is striking about Judaism is that argument and the hearing of contrary views is of the essence of the religious life. Moses argues with God. That is one of the most striking things about him. He argues with Him on their first encounter at the burning bush. Four times he resists God’s call to lead the Israelites to freedom, until God finally gets angry with him (Ex. 3:1–4:7). More significantly, at the end of the parsha he says to God:
“Lord, why have you brought trouble on this people? Why did You send me? Since I came to Pharaoh to speak in Your name, he has brought trouble on this people, and You have not rescued Your people at all.” (Ex. 5:22-23).
This is extraordinary language for a human being to use to God. But Moses was not the first to do so. The first was Abraham, who said, on hearing of God’s plan to destroy the cities of the plain, “Shall the Judge of all the earth not do justice?” (Gen. 18:25).
Similarly, Jeremiah, posing the age-old question of why bad things happen to good people and good things to bad people, asked: “Why does the way of the wicked prosper? Why do all the faithless live at ease?” (Jer. 12:1). In the same vein, Habakkuk challenged God: “Why do You tolerate the treacherous? Why are You silent while the wicked swallow up those more righteous than themselves?” (Hab. 1:13). Job who challenges God’s justice is vindicated in the book that bears his name, while his friends who defended Divine justice are said not to have spoken correctly (Job 42:7-8). Heaven, in short, is not a safe space in the current meaning of the phrase. To the contrary: God loves those who argue with Him – so it seems from Tanakh.
Equally striking is the fact that the sages continued the tradition and gave it a name: argument for the sake of heaven, defined as debate for the sake of truth as opposed to victory.
The result is that Judaism is, perhaps uniquely, a civilisation all of whose canonical texts are anthologies of arguments. Midrash operates on the principle that there are “seventy faces” to Torah and thus that every verse is open to multiple interpretations. The Mishnah is full of paragraphs of the form, “Rabbi X says this while Rabbi Y says that.” The Talmud says in the name of God himself, about the conflicting views of the schools of Hillel and Shammai, that “These and those are the words of the living God.”
636b99 No.4598247
>>4598156
The 'Word' did not just suddenly show up in the NT. John is interpreting Ge 1:1 in John 1:1-4.
Bara, translated 'created' is the son 'bar' who spoke and ceated teh heavens and the earth 'a'. Because God spoke when he created, even modern rabbis admit that bara is also understood as the Word which created.
Bara ברא is in bereshith בראשית so John says 'In the beginning was the word". Bara is next to elohim, so John says "and the Word was with God". Bara is the Son who created, so John says, "and the Word was God."
Now when God said 'אמר' 'Let there be light'. He created light by the lamb 'אמר'. Said (which is also 'word') is the same word as 'lamb'.
When John the Baptist said "Behold the lamb of God" some heard him say "Behold the Word of God."
John did not invent the usage of the 'Word' to refer to Jesus, nor did he get it from Philo, he got it from the OT., and merely tried to explain it to the Greeks.
And for this I am called a heretic by one who elevates Philo Above Genesis!
43551c No.4598308
>>4598247
>The 'Word' did not just suddenly show up in the NT.
John picks up on their popular concept–logos and runs with it to describe Jesus–that one thing they'd been looking for–the be all end all–or, as Curly would say that 'one thing'.
07a798 No.4598320
Anyone have a photo or video of putting the book up their twat?
Now that be mean….
636b99 No.4598325
>>4598308
I understand that is the popular belief. You ignored the Hebrew evidence that he got it from Ge 1:1.
43551c No.4598411
>>4598325
> You ignored the Hebrew evidence that he got it from Ge 1:1.
Beginning of the world not beginning of the week.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made (Jn 1:1–3).
636b99 No.4598482
>>4598411
In bereshith was bara, and bara was with Elohim and bara was elohim (the one who created the heavens and the earth).
bereshith = begining
bara = the word which created.
berseshit bara elohim = first 3 words of genesis.
Did you skip over all that?
07a798 No.4598493
>>4598482
Matthew 7:15-23
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. …
636b99 No.4598522
>>4598493
More Greek shill ad hominem attacks..
I have affirmed that Christ is the Word. and that John got it from Genesis 1:1 . What part of that is heresy?
ccf768 No.4598586
>>4598103
Hebrew for "Logos" would obviously be Yehoshua Moshiac.
43551c No.4598591
No cult or 'ism will ever get by Jn 1:1-3.
ccf768 No.4598593
>>4598148
I did both, actually, and you do neither.
Are you a Jew?
ccf768 No.4598601
>>4598148
You keep quoting Philo, maybe not knowing that he never wrote of Jesus.
ccf768 No.4598614
>>4598522
Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, the Creator of the Universe; Jesus is YHWH.
636b99 No.4598617
>>4598493
It is an incontrovertible observation that ברא is in בראשית.
Likewise that ברא is with אלהים.
The only thing I have not affirmed is that Philo is an inspires apostle whom John felt compelled by the Spirit of God to quote rather than Gen 1:1.
Your heads will flip if I also showed that he derived 'life, light and bread' from אלהים.
Obviously someone is in need of some serious red-pilling. lol
636b99 No.4598634
>>4598601
I am referring to the Christian theologians who use Philo to define the Greek word 'Logos' and by implication, John using Philos definition. Sorry that you are unfamiliar with their usages.
636b99 No.4598642
ccf768 No.4598644
>>4598634
So, Philo never spoke of Jesus, which you did not know.
But you use Philo to speak of Jesus, which you do in error.
ccf768 No.4598662
>>4598617
So, when are you going to answer the question as to whether or not you are a Jew, now that you're giving random Hebrew lessons?
Am I supposed to think you're my brother in Christ because you post "Amen"?
636b99 No.4598687
>>4598644
Philo spoke of the Logos.
John uses logos.
Church theologians use Philo to explain tah meaning of John.
If you have understood anything else then I did not speak clearly.
Johns usage of logos is equated with Philo by church theologians. I apologize if I have been sloppy in explaining that presuming you were aware of it.
ccf768 No.4598712
>>4598687
Jesus is the Logos.
Philo never spoke of Jesus.
Reconcile.
Are you a Jew?
636b99 No.4598716
>>4598662
I do not presume that I am a brother with someone who denies that Jesus is the Word of God from Genesis, and worships a Logos invented by Philo.
I said Amen to affirm that that statement was exactly my belief.
ccf768 No.4598723
>>4598687
Please assume nothing.
Thank you.
ccf768 No.4598730
>>4598716
You deceive yourself, and the truth is not in you.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I truly despise false brothers.
636b99 No.4598734
>>4598723
We all assume something until there is a tension that needs clarified. So don't be so pedantic.
ccf768 No.4598746
>>4598734
I will continue to be pedantic, if that's alright with you.
636b99 No.4598799
>>4598746
So I affirm that Jesus is the very God of God, the creator of heaven of earth, born of a virgin, to reveal the invisible Father through his words, life, death, resurrection, and indwelling Spirit.
But you call me a heretic and a false brother because I claim John got the 'Word' from Genesis.
Thank you!!
43551c No.4598873
>>4598482
>[Creation, Ge 1:1] Did you skip over all that?
All three persons of the trinity were involved in the creation of the world (Gen. 1:1–3, 26).
ccf768 No.4598875
>>4598799
Jesus is the Father, who is Jesus, through the binding of the Holy Spirit. If you see Jesus, you see the Father.
You don't know what you think you know, and you are not what you think you are. If you want to be a born again believer, read, say, and do what Paul writes of in Romans 10:9-13.
636b99 No.4598914
>>4597913
Yehoshua = Joshua
Moshiac = Messiah
Amar = word
bara = create, create by the word, word which created.
Logos = Word
636b99 No.4598929
636b99 No.4598943
>>4598875
>Jesus is the Father, who is Jesus, through the binding of the Holy Spirit. If you see Jesus, you see the Father.
Absolutely.
Keep throwing doctrine to try and find something I don't believe…
636b99 No.4598950
>>4598875
I keep saying that I am irrelevant. Yet you keep bringing it back to me.
43551c No.4598979
>>4598875
>Jesus is the Father…
The Father is not the Son. The Son is not the Spirit.
“The everlasting Father”—Avi–ad, Father of eternity. This simply means that He is the Creator of all things, even time, the ages, and the far–off purpose of all things. As John said, “All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made” (John 1:3). In Colossians 1:16 Paul said, “For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him.” Then in Hebrews 1:1–2 we read, “God…. hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds [ages].” The translation of the Greek word aioµn should be “ages” instead of “worlds,” and that is the thought in this title of His—Father of eternity.
McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible commentary: The Prophets (Isaiah 1-35) (electronic ed., Vol. 22, p. 98). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
ccf768 No.4599019
>>4598943
You contradict yourself so much that even other godless people can point and laugh.
I never called you a heretic.
I never said anything about John getting Logos from Philo or from Genesis.
You keep stating that you believe mutually exclusive things.
Then you keep wondering why your falseness is so easy to spot.
I'm not posting to you, Anon. I'm posting to anyone lurking and reading who thinks you might be a Christian, to disabuse them of the notion.
ccf768 No.4599031
>>4599019
For instance, how can Jesus be the God of God? It's just absurd!
ccf768 No.4599040
>>4598914
Yehoshua = Jesus
Same root, not the same name.
Jesus is the Messiah.
Jesus created everything by speaking it into existence.
Jesus is revealed in the Revelation of Jesus Christ as the Word of God.
636b99 No.4599041
>>4598979
You are silly. Playing games with words.
Jesus is the Father, argue with Isaiah, not me. Did you forget your Christmas verses already?
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
The Holy Spirit is the Father:
Lu 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
I think you cut your Trinity a bit thin when it ignores scripture.. You believe your Greek philosophy over scripture.
636b99 No.4599070
>>4599040
I have denied none of that. and have affirmed it repeatedly.
Jesus is an English version of the Greek Iesous. Your ignorance is showing.
ccf768 No.4599095
>>4599070
>Yehoshua = Joshua
>I have never denied that Yehoshua = Jesus
Reconcile
ccf768 No.4599104
>>4599070
It's a transliteration. Whose ignorance is showing, again?
636b99 No.4599111
>>4599031
The same way the Lord said to my Lord…
Mr 12:36 For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
The Jews didn't understand it either.. are you a Jew? You deny the Word from the beginning?
the bara from the bereshith lol
636b99 No.4599135
>>4599095
03091 יהושׁוע Yᵉhowshuwa‘ yeh-ho-shoo’- ah or יהושׁע Yᵉhowshu‘a yeh-ho-shoo’- ah
from 03068 and 03467, Greek 2424 Ιησους and 919 βαριησους;
AV-Joshua 218; 218
636b99 No.4599142
>>4599104
03091 יהושׁוע Yᵉhowshuwa‘ yeh-ho-shoo’- ah or יהושׁע Yᵉhowshu‘a yeh-ho-shoo’- ah
from 03068 and 03467, Greek 2424 Ιησους and 919 βαριησους;
AV-Joshua 218; 218
ad0984 No.4599199
>>4598522
Jeremiah 7:8
“Behold, you trust in deceptive words to no avail.
636b99 No.4599213
>>4599199
Again taunts with no sauce lol
ad0984 No.4599217
>>4598614
Leviticus 24:13–16
ad0984 No.4599227
>>4598617
Jeremiah 7:8
“Behold, you trust in deceptive words to no avail.
43551c No.4599250
>>4599031
>how can Jesus be the God of God?
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God [John 20:17].
…You will notice He was specific in calling God “my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.” His relationship to the Father is different from our relationship to Him. We become the sons of God through faith in Jesus Christ, while Christ is a member of the Trinity, the eternal Son of God. He made this distinction here. McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible commentary: The Gospels (John 11-21) (electronic ed., Vol. 39, p. 170). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
ad0984 No.4599253
>>4598799
>>4598875
>>4598873
>>4598746
James 4:1
What causes quarrels and what causes fights among you? Is it not this, that your passions are at war within you?
ad0984 No.4599268
>>4598914
1 Timothy 1:6
Certain persons, by swerving from these, have wandered away into vain discussion,
43551c No.4599292
>>4599041
>Jesus is the Father,
So when he prayed, he was praying to himself? https://www.crosswalk.com/faith/prayer/prayers/3-passionate-prayers-jesus-prayed-to-god.html
ad0984 No.4599293
>>4599250
>>4599213
Matthew 6:1-34
“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. …
ccf768 No.4599302
>>4599111
And again, your profound misunderstanding of the bible is readily apparent.
"The LORD said to my Lord" is not an identity; it's the difference between YHWH and Adonai, and used by Jesus to show the Jews (people like you) that David said the Messiah is David's Lord/Adonai, which is impossible since the Messiah would be David's descendant, and therefore never superior to David.
Unless that Adonai = YHWH.
ccf768 No.4599308
>>4599135
>>4599142
Could you point out what part of "same root, different name" confused you this badly?
ad0984 No.4599321
>>4599292
>>4599135
>>4599308
>>4599302
1 John 4:1-3
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.
ccf768 No.4599361
>>4599217
And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.
I think this is what you are getting at.
If Jesus is God, then calling Jesus "God" is not blaspheming God, but identifying Him.
ccf768 No.4599371
I filter all shills and respond to all non-shill posts, so if you're not getting a response to me, now you know why.
ad0984 No.4599407
Matthew 6:24
“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.
>>4599361
636b99 No.4599437
>>4599217
For those trying to find his verses, he is using a different Bible than most. Shuffle a few this way or that..
He has just declared that I am worthy of stoning for saying Jesus is the Word of God , and that John got that from Gen 1:1 rather than his Greek high priest who relies on the writing of filo to interpret 'Logos'.
This is the very church that that has to crumble because they have deified Mary, and elevated their Greek Philosophy above scripture in order to keep people in fear.
They say you must believe! (what they say)
God says: Isa 43:10 Ye [are] my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I [am] he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
You are to KNOW first, then believe (trust), then understanding comes.
But they say you cannot know God unless you believe them first.
I have a real life I must get to. But this is an excellent example:
I have affirmed the doctrines of the faith, but because I got them from the Hebrew I am unacceptable.
Then attempts are made to play with words to catch me in something they can label me a heretic at.
Your answer: No I am not a Jew. I am not important. John was a Hebrew first. He thought and wrote with a Hebrew mind. He used the OT for his doctrine the same way Paul did as he taught the Bereans.
The Greek church threw out the Hebrew Bible, and by 400 AD when Jerome wanted to learn Hebrew, there was no one in the church to teach him.
He went to disbelieving Jews to learn how, and they lied about the language to obfuscate Christ in their own scriptures, even adding more vowels to it in 600 AD.
What little Hebrew the Greek church knows comes from that.
The Greeks have to way to discern truth. they use Greek debate and ad hominem attacks. The hermeneutic of sensus plenior has rules that eliminate free-for-all allegory.
They are stated in a previous post.
The reason this is such a 'hot item' for some is because it challenges their priesthood authority. You don't need the Hebrew rituals dressed up as a mass.
God desires for you to know him.
If I am not stoned by our Greek-muhPhilo anon,… ouch… I forgive you anon.
Even though you apparently wish to live by levitical laws given to Jews… not Gentiles.. oh dang… I knew you were a Jew lol
ccf768 No.4599438
>>4599407
So your thing is to just kind of post random bible verses?
ccf768 No.4599448
>>4599437
You seriously need to start looking at people's ID numbers.
636b99 No.4599483
>>4599448
Sorry.. Old fart. I'll try harder to see those.
43551c No.4599485
(MATTHEW 6)
The Sermon on the Mount, part 2: Jesus presents models for giving, prayer, fasting, money, and trust.
I. JESUS TALKS ABOUT GIVING (6:1–4)
A. The rules (6:1–3)
1. Give sincerely (6:1): You will receive reward from your Father in heaven.
2. Give secretly (6:2–3): Calling attention to your giving will cause that to be your only reward.
B. The reward (6:4): Give your gifts in secret, and God will reward you openly.
II. JESUS TALKS ABOUT PRAYING (6:5–15)
A. Essentials in prayer (6:5–8)
1. Prayers God rejects (6:5, 7–8)
a. Boasting prayers (6:5) : Praying publicly brings reward from men only.
b. Babbling prayers (6:7–8): God knows what you need before you ask.
2. Prayers God receives (6:6): We should pray from the heart, in private.
B. Elements in prayer (6:9–15): Jesus lists nine aspects of prayer.
1. Faith (6:9a): “Our Father in heaven.”
2. Worship (6:9b): “May your name be honored.”
3. Expectation (6:10a): “May your kingdom come soon.”
4. Submission (6:10b): “May your will be done here on earth, just as it is in heaven.”
5. Petition (6:11): “Give us our food for today.”
6. Confession (6:12a): “And forgive us our sins.”
7. Compassion (6:12b, see also 14–15): “Just as we have forgiven those who have sinned against us.”
8. Dependence (6:13a): “And don’t let us yield to temptation.”
9. Acknowledgment (6:13b): “For yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.”
III. JESUS TALKS ABOUT FASTING (6:16–18)
A. By hypocrites (6:16): They disfigure their faces to show people they are fasting.
B. By the humble (6:17–18): They comb their hair and wash their faces so only God knows what they are doing. Then the Father rewards them.
IV. JESUS TALKS ABOUT TREASURES (6:19–24)
A. Earthly treasures are insecure and corruptible (6:19, 22–24): No one can serve two masters, but all must choose between God and gold!
B. Heavenly treasures are secure and incorruptible (6:20–21): Where your treasure is, there your heart will be.
V. JESUS TALKS ABOUT TRUSTING (6:25–34)
A. The information (6:25): We are told not to worry about food or clothes, for life consists of more than these things.
B. The illustrations (6:26–30)
1. Consider the birds (6:26–27): They do not sow, reap, or store up food, yet God feeds them!
2. Consider the lilies (6:28–30): They don’t worry about clothes, yet Solomon in all his glory was not dressed as beautifully as they are!
C. The invitation (6:31–34): Put God in first place, and he will meet all your needs!
Willmington, H. L. (1999). The Outline Bible (Mt 6). Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House Publishers.
43551c No.4599501
(1 JOHN 4)
John writes about discerning false prophets and loving one another.
I. LOCATE THE SPIRITS (4:1–6): We are to test those who claim to speak by the Spirit by asking whether their message comes from a false prophet, a demon, or from God.
A. The scriptural claim (4:1–2, 4, 6): All messages acknowledging that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh are of God.
B. The satanic claim (4:3, 5): All messages that do not are not of God.
II. LOVE THE SAINTS (4:7–21).
A. What love proves (4:7–11, 14, 19–21)
1. Our love for God is proven by our love for one another (4:7–8, 11, 19–21).
2. God’s love for us was proven by the sacrificial death of Christ (4:9–10, 14).
B. What love produces (4:12–13, 15–18)
1. God is joined to us (4:12, 15–16).
2. We are joined to him (4:13).
3. We are given confidence (4:17).
4. We are protected from fear (4:18).
Willmington, H. L. (1999). The Outline Bible (1 Jn 4). Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House Publishers.
ca0b42 No.4599573
>>4599485
>>4599501
>>4599454
>>4599437
Colossians 2:8
See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.
ccf768 No.4599579
>>4599483
I like you. But you do things that muddle your message. I like your antipathy to both the Roman and the Greek churches, them being pagan in origin and the two iron legs of the statue in Daniel, ruling the world for a thousand years each from Rome (east) and Rome (west).
Everything about the bible is from the Hebrews; the bible is the history of mankind centered around the Hebrews. For instance, the only empires God really cares to discuss were the Babylonian, Medeo-Persian, Greek and Roman, and then the Antichrist's empire, all of which dealt with the Hebrews. None of the other empires on earth matter to God. Chinese, African, Akkadian, none of them. Only as they touch the Hebrews.
Jesus is the Seed of the woman
the seed of Abraham
the root of David
the Lion of the Tribe of Judah
the Jewish Messiah
the King of the Jews
No man has said he is a Jew for 2,400 years without lying; hence my question to people as to whether or not they are a Jew.
Because none exist. Not really. "If you have not the Son, you have not the Father."
Also, voted for Reagan. You're not the only oldfag here.
43551c No.4599620
II. PAUL’S WARNINGS TO THESE TWO CHURCHES (2:8–23): The apostle warns against four dangerous and destructive philosophies.
A. Gnosticism (2:8–10)
1. The fiction (2:8): The Gnostics diminish Christ to an angel.
2. The facts (2:9–10): Paul says Christ was God incarnate in bodily form.
B. Legalism (2:11–17)
1. Paul describes the love of Christ (2:11–15).
a. We have been crucified and raised to new life with him (2:11–12).
b. He has forgiven our sins (2:13).
c. He has blotted out the charges against us (2:14–15).
2. Paul describes the liberty in Christ (2:16–17): Because of this, believers should not criticize each other.
a. In matters of diet (2:16a): No one should condemn another believer for what he or she eats or drinks.
b. In matters of days (2:16b–17): No one should condemn another believer for not celebrating certain holy days, for these old rules were only shadows.
Willmington, H. L. (1999). The Outline Bible (Col 2:7–17). Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House Publishers.
ca0b42 No.4599669
>>4599620
Ephesians 6:11
Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil.
43551c No.4599703
>>4599579
> …Greek churches, them being pagan…
Root out Greek paganism.
Is the Future Settled or Open? Dr. Lamerson vs. Enyart http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?21711-Openness-Theology-Does-God-Know-Your-Entire-Future-Battle-Royale-X
43551c No.4599861
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULW6tCVRfoM
636b99 No.4600749
>>4599579
Thanks. Yeah I am not sure how to get around the muddling, there is such a giant red-pill.
Hebrew has 28 letters, which derive their meaning from the strokes. Each consonant has an attached vowel (it is a lie that there are no vowels). Words derive their meaning from the combination of the meanings of the letters.
The alphabet is a message of Christ.
All of the OT is written in prophetic riddle underneath the literal historical (sensus plenior), always speaking of Christ. It is written like a fractal, where the same story is told over and over but in greater detail, and stories within stories all speaking of Christ. The first letter says the same as the first word as the first sentence as the first chapter as the whole Bible.
A metaphor is always the same (humanly impossible to make work, which is why it proves God's intended meaning when you observe that it does).
The Greek church either denies the sensus plenior or says it exists but we must not look for it.
Gen 38 has been called the worst chapter of the Bible, but it has a hidden picture of the birth of Christ underneath. Many of the supposed contradiction occur because of Greek misunderstandings.
If I were to choose a church, I would either choose the Orthodox or the Restorationists, but neither can stand up to the tests of their own claims.
The Othodox claim that their traditions go back to the apostles, but I really don't believe anyone got fisherman Peter to walk around in a mitre fish head hat. Also insisting that one say "Mary, the mother of God" rather than any other equivalent that doesn't appear to make Mary a God, like "Mary, the mother of God incarnate" is pure paganism where a magic mantra is required to appease God.
One evidence of it's corruption is the split with the west on whether the Spirit proceeds from the Father or the Father and the Son. The sensus plenior in Jonah tells us that he also proceeds from the Son. But it is not a doctrine so important that people must be banished over it.
The restoration movement suggests it relies only on the Bible, but in reality, they believe what they believe about the Bible. They have the same Greek philosophy and hermeneutic as everyone else descended from the corrupted 'Universal' church.
The hermeneutic of sensus plenior accomplishes what the Restorationists claim.
It is a threat to the priesthoods of the Greek churches. Yeah, even evangelicals anointed their priests to declare truth in The Chicago Statement of faith.
SP changes Bible study from a debate into a collaboration. It is not pitting one opinion against another, but using the rule that a symbol is always the same, eliminates opinions and makes them observations.
It is a simple observation that ברא is in בראשית . But that simple observation is a huge threat to the Greek church.
It doesn't matter to me if you believe it or not. It is not my teaching. It is a verifiable observation.
People have the choice to believe if John saw it and worked from there or chose Greek philosophy as his base. But only one is true and supported by observations in scripture.
But you cannot argue against the observation. it is simply true.
From Ge 1:1, using SP, one can observe the following doctrines:
God spoke and created the heavens and the earth when there was no one there to see or hear him do it.
His unspoken name is derived from the strokes of the aleph, but it is unpronounceable because the aleph is silent. It sounds similar to Yahweh.
From the beginning, no man has seen the Father.
The Son makes him known.
In the beginning (from the first word):
God created six.
He has a covenant with man.
The Son was totally devoted unto death
The son made an appointment (appointed time)
"A revelation to man, It is revealed that God spoke and created the heavens and the earth, what he intended to do was finished"
God is also a judge.
He created and taught, but was not understood, so the Son completed the work of creation, (the cross)
He is the light, Life and bread.
The Son created and was cut down.
The spirit hovered over the face of the waters.
The Father, Word, and Spirit testified.
The Spirit, Water and Blood testified.
But since it seems impossible to get past the Word in Gen1:1 it is unlikely a conversation concerning these things can be held here.
They would rather decide a matter before it is heard than to simply ask 'how can it be?'.
And simply disagreeing makes one worthy of death by stoning lol
I don't know how to unmuddle it, but it is all observations which are verifiable, reproducible, and teachable so others can also see the mystery.
Those who learn their Hebrew from Greeks or from disbelieving Jews will become confused quickly.
43551c No.4601022
When you lie down, you will not be afraid;
Yes, you will lie down and your sleep will be sweet (Pr 3:24).
0ea8f8 No.4601602
>>4441266
Control of their own brain? You may be surprised if given the opportunity to understand the reality of your intelligence. Gifts.
ffb4d2 No.4601710
>>4600749
2 Timothy 2:16
But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness,
43551c No.4601766
> 4601227
But bring here those enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, and slay them before me (Lk 19:27).
b084ef No.4601879
DESPERATE SHILL SLIDING IS FUNNY AF
Hmmmm… I wonder what the shills were sliding from??
This bread and all the fake and gay biblefag shills bickerfagging and lectureshillin is very telling.
See below posts for what they were sliding away from.
>>4584006
>>4584013
>>4584020
>>4584407
6173fd No.4604758
>>4595640
You're seeing just fine from what I've read so far, just so ya know. You bear the Mark, not the missing mark. Easy to observe:
"Furthermore they killed their enemies : defined by a mere disagreement of doctrine, rather than loving them; further demonstrating that they had no respect or understanding for the word of God."
I haven't amened here for awhile, so,
AMEN to those MARKS
In order to LOVE our neighbors as ourselves and even our enemies, it is necessary to see past the flesh and observe what is going on inside the boxes of the resistors, and for that we may employ Jesus' dissection in Mark 4:15.
If we hear, we'll see more than "just a person."
43551c No.4607597
On Trump's watch. Trust God's plan. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/03/dhs-releases-over-2k-border-crossing-adults-children-into-u-s/
43551c No.4607605
On Trump's watch. Trust God's plan. https://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-to-deploy-precision-strike-missiles-in-western-atlantic/
43551c No.4608218
Obedience: In the Christian’s life: comes from the heart (Rom. 6:17), needs testing (2 Cor. 2:4), aided by the Spirit (1 Pet. 1:22), manifested in gentiles (Rom. 15:18), in pastoral relations (2 Cor. 7:15). Lack of, brings: rejection (1 Sam. 15:20–26), captivity (2 Kin. 18:11, 12), death (1 Kin. 20:36), retribution (2 Thess. 1:8). Thomas Nelson Publishers. (1996). Nelson’s quick reference topical Bible index (p. 455). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers.
43551c No.4608526
Whoever commits sin is a slave of sin (Jn 8:34).
846bde No.4612475
>>4596975
pedovores and blood-sacrificing tards' excrement is evidence of harm. Be it ignorance or willful - it is harm.
Watching the schizophrenic carnists squirm - as their parasitic gut nematodes Ouroboros - would be hilarious, IF it wasn't so serious.
and after all: only TRUTH Persists
846bde No.4612658
>>4608218 you don't need glasses to see carnists. And forget symbolism : Observe WHAT they choose to eat. If it's sentient beings then you are on the menu too.
You cannot be Good and Righteous if you CHOOSE to eat anti-live. Logically.
43551c No.4612904
>>4611397
>Adultery is cool now.
Yep (Lk 17:26).
846bde No.4613714
>>4612904 stop the GOD DAMNED SLAUGHTER for taste "pleasure" before you concern yourself with other' pleasure.
tards - gott'a luv 'em :0
43551c No.4613833
>>4613714
> other' pleasure.
Knock yourself out (He 11:25). God wins (He 13:4).
e97ef7 No.4622474
The seven seals of Revelation are keys to unlocking hidden wisdom in the Bible. This was disclosed in detail many years ago and widely known among televangelists, but they feared the globalist implications of it, as it revealed much concerning that.
It also divulged the needs and means of the work of Elijah, which has been taking place ever since, and which points to even deeper revelations of Scripture associated with the long-hidden wisdom of the first tablets of Moses. This is also now found to speak most intimately to the present struggles with globalism and the victory over it we are experiencing today.
The music community also circulated this study internally some years back and began authoring thousands of songs and videos about their thoughts and hopes for it to be more widely known, even long before the public was ready for it.
I will post links to some of the great many videos produced over the years that express support for this work.
This is the study : https://cog49.com/79ft.pdf
A brief synopsis of points of interest : https://pastebin.com/gHDKKBjW
e97ef7 No.4622482
>>4622474
Here are some of the videos that tell the story since this study first appeared (out of thousands of songs influenced by it), from the religious and political effects to the prevailing of music with it, to more recent states of mind because of it.
Early political weather (in small spaces): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyk-Vdd_Qrk
The celebrity perspective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRXZkdEj7YI
A religious view: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QUq72fla3o
An Armegeddon-like take: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8Rf24KdOBw
Another take on the whole story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIuxiwhUGz4
Some disappointment with the church: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMxU2ToSunY
Search for further revelation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m2q5Fw8gwI
Saviors of the World: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKeLldG8YYU
76f097 No.4622901
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. INFANTICIDE!?
MINDBLOWING VIDEO!
MAKE VIRAL AND EXPOSE THIS LEFTIST LUNATIC!
US College Student says babies 2 yrs or under can be killed because they can not communicate needs!? He compared it to trees, where they do not talk back and tell him their needs - nor can babies, so parents should have a right to kill their own babies if they want.
Seriously - Planned Parenthood next step….
Q3 9dks2
Want to play a game?
b5741b No.4622994
>>4622901
No amount of snapback caps will ever cover up the joofro.
76f097 No.4623016
>>4622994
Yeah - got a big juice white cum joofro load for ya face. Let me know when your throats ready to swallow.
6173fd No.4624587
>>4608526
What is it with believers, that they can't see the obvious???
Romans 7:
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
1 Tim. 1:
15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
Romans 7:
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
There's a reason for our Savior. We have an adversary. Sin is of the DEVIL. 1 John 3:8
Paul was no exception to having an adversary in his own flesh. Neither is anyone else, an exception.
2 Cor. 12:
7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
Blinded denial. The Words of the Day.
6173fd No.4624602
>>4622994
What's up with you idiots? You think killing all the looooos are going to make your SIN any better or the world any better? T
alk about a blind slave man. You're tagged and bagged in yer head.
6173fd No.4624633
>>4622474
Another link to blinded nonsense.
The COG49 link you've been pimping for several boards is just more void blither.
The opening salvo is that Jesus is basically the devil.
What the hell is wrong with people?
Oh, that's right! Sin is of the DEVIL.
Assessment of our own internal spiritual adversaries is vital to understanding scripture and life.
Cog49 is worthless bullshit.
43551c No.4625411
>>4624587
>What is it with believers, that they can't see the obvious???…Blinded denial.
Proof please (Eph 4:14).
Ro 3:23, 5:8, 6:23, 10:9, 10:13
43551c No.4625427
>>4624602
>You think killing all the looooos are going to make your SIN any better…
“It may be a secret sin on earth, but it is open scandal in heaven.” ~ Lewis Sperry Chafer
43551c No.4625448
On Trump's watch. Trust God's plan. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/01/chinese-govt-is-using-us-tech-giants-censorship-of-conservative-americans-as-model-to-clamp-down-on-its-own-citizens/
6173fd No.4625746
>>4625411
The majority of believers blindly discount the operations of the adversary in their own minds and hearts.
From a scriptural perspective, it's not really them doing it, but the devil doing it upon them.
Paul did not exempt his own flesh or mind from interactions (internal) with our spiritual adversary.
In fact it's at the heart of his teachings and discourses, by the directives of Jesus, given here:
Acts 26:
18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
That turning doesn't cease at the point of belief. We aren't "saved" from what we deny we have (sin) or deny we engage (the adversary.)
We do ALL have sin and our sin, from scripture perspective, is OF THE DEVIL, our adversary. 1 John 3:8.
Most believers are instantaneously led BY THE DEVIL into denials of their state of existence. They falsely think in their minds that their minds and hearts are exempt from interactions with our spiritual adversary. -→ This is not the case and never has been the case for anyone. We all engage the adversary IN MIND.
Therefore, God does not look only upon "me" the individual. Scripture looks upon "me" and also upon the "adversary."
Seeing ourselves in this way will also change how we see things.
Yes Virginia, your sin is real and your sin is of the devil, whether we like to hear about it or not.
It is the devils in people who don't like to hear about it and will instantly BLIND anyone who tries to HEAR. Happens all the time. Because those operators do not care for the LIGHT OF EXPOSURE. That's how they are built, to deny that LIGHT upon THEM, as Paul noted here for example:
2 Cor. 4:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
When the LIGHT is turned ON, you'll see the adversary in your mind and heart.
When the LIGHT is denied, you won't see it and can't see the facts.
Even though Paul can openly state he did EVIL, that he was the chief of sinners after salvation, that he had evil present with him, that he had a messenger of Satan in his own sorry hide, believers will instantly drift off to sleep when reading those facts and they will even MORESO deny that these scriptural facts apply to to their own sorry hides.
Instant deNILE. It's the state of mind the adversary brings to those in the dark.
Why is this critical? Scriptures have provided us a real internal bad guy/shill that is NOT THE PERSON.
When we see this fact, we know the path to LOVE ALL OUR NEIGHBORS whilst simultaneously resisting the adversary within them.
Dual Vision is mandatory. But rare.
43551c No.4625811
>>4625746
>The majority of believers blindly discount the operations of the adversary
Proof please (Eph 4:14).
1 John 4:1–6
43551c No.4626565
Scriptural Walk-Thru of Dual Passover Night Timeline (Rapture 2019) | RAPTURE AT TWILIGHT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx8ewqve64E&t=0s
6173fd No.4627047
>>4625811
I automatically assume that christians believe their unsaved neighbors are going to fry alive forever, because that's what the majority of YOU hold forth. It's only a question of whether or when you'll be honest, and spill your guts on the subject.
Most of you are very sick in the head on the above count unless and until stated otherwise.
Jesus IS The Savior of the world. That applies to ALL the people therein. Not just you and your little packs of wolves in sheep cloth.
Isaiah 25:7
And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations.
7171c5 No.4627099
>>4625811
2 Peter 2:1
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.
7171c5 No.4627119
>>4627047
2 Corinthians 11:14
And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
6173fd No.4629120
>>4627119
Are you trying to say you insist your unsaved neighbors fry alive forever in the Name of Jesus?
lol
NEWSFLASH of the BLIND…billions of people make Jesus a non-Savior. God is made worthless and ineffective by MAN.
lol
The God of most of your minds is a JOKE, a bad caricature of God.
God is presumably powerful enough to do whatever He Wants, donchathink?
Fortunately it won't be what most of you think, instead.
I'm going with He Gets The Job of being A Savior actually DONE including all your demented torture the majority of humanity if fire forever God versions getting pushed aside.
Phil. 2:
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
I'm kinda thinking that God won't be cutting off the tongues those who disagree, like his supposed representatives here on earth have done.
Bunch of phonies…the lot of 'em
e97ef7 No.4630754
>>4624633
I know. It's a most favored target for shills (as many others have pointed out).
… for being the most anon-accepted study on this whole board.
Your record, just in this thread, speaks for itself.
6173fd No.4631360
>>4630754
I'll admit people who want to burn other people alive forever are not my favorite forms of devils in mankind.
43551c No.4635045
Mid-East Prophecy Update | J.D. Farag https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePJq_C3k9yw&t
43551c No.4635077
>>4627047
>I automatically assume that christians believe their unsaved neighbors are going to fry alive forever, because that's what the majority of YOU hold forth.
One beggar telling another beggar where to find bread. Mk 2:17
43551c No.4635228
>>4627099
>false prophets
Let the reader decide (Eph 4:14).
f52c9b No.4635358
>>4635228
>>4635228
Matthew 7:1
“Judge not, that you be not judged.
e97ef7 No.4635679
>>4631360
But why do you act like I am one of them?
e97ef7 No.4635813
>>4622474
>>4622482
Here is a partial summary of some of the points of interest to anons in this doc.
** SYNOPSIS ** of some 20 points of anon interest, for: http://cog49.com/ft.pdf
Breaking the Matrix - p133 Ancient view of present society, new creative forces, and future vision.
Paul Goes to Rome - p131 Paul points out the basic architecture of the now-present, alternative, social model substitute for "church."
Four Cavalries of World Authority - p129 An Acts parallel on Trump coming to power with the help of internet anons, social media and alternative news figures and nationalism.
Parable of the Plagues - p125 The Exodus story of the plagues describing truth promotion of the last 20 years, the 2016 election, anons as finger of God, what we see happening now and future vision.
Beasts of Religion - p123 The Daniel 7 view of the religious beasts and globalism in Europe as the ancients expected us to see them now.
Anonymous - p117 A scriptural take on the Anonymous movement and anonymity.
Second Advent of Christ - p114 Roundup of the many biblical views of the second advent (for adults only).
Lost Tribes - p84 Discovery of ancient's reasoning for why the white nations have always been lost.
The Last Noah and the Narrow Path - p81 The 120 yr old, narrow path of "outsider theology" engendered by Protocols subverting commercial doctrine, which created an "ark" of salvation all the while.
Inheritance of Benjamin - p67 The true identity of and reasons for the modern Jewish state, wrongly called "Israel."
Parable of Judah - p62 The motherload deciphering of Genesis 38 explaining the JQ undermining of the West. Several keys to this parable are in the five shorter sections preceding it, from the middle of p58
Ordinances of Heaven - p50 Encrypted indication of physical forces of life as driven by cosmic forces by means comparable to music theory (together with the next section).
Solving the Puzzle - p43 How the second tablets of Moses differed from the first, as based on many other sections before this.
Jerusalem - p36 What this name means and where it is and is not.
Turning the World Upside Down - p32 The kings dream of Daniel as key to metaphysical and time interpretation contexts.
The Third Generation of Israel - p28 Where and who these people are and have been for many centuries.
Esau and Jacob - p24 The relationship of these two as that of Judaism and Christianity throughout time.
Sacred Context - p8 Portrayal of the distinction between how preachers know the Bible and how we now can.
The Seven Objects - p5 Bible as written in object oriented computer programming language.
e97ef7 No.4635910
>>4624633
I see you are not of the common self-taught and inquisitive anon mindset, in your quest for truth.
Here, I posted for you a few of the points in the study that anons find of particular interest.
There are many others, but these may help you understand why it has been so well taken here, from day one of this movement.
>>4635813
6173fd No.4637602
>>4635679
You may not be. If not, then good on ya.
I ran a scan of terms at your link when I first came across it here a couple boards back or so, for positional references on Satan/Devil. They were sorely lacking scriptural integrity, and basically made "man" into the devil, which is a red alert for me and probably many, even in orthodoxy(s).
The short version for dissections of all positions that make "man" the devil or Satan runs into instant trouble understanding Jesus' Temptation by the devil, Satan, i.e. just another guy out there in the desert with Jesus or even maybe Jesus tempting himself as Satan.
It's a valid assumption that if the writer scripturally fouls on that count, it's probably fouled on many more.
It's not unusual though. I read an entire doctrinal thesis from a Dr. of Theo. to be a few years ago about the law and there was not a single reference to Satan. Since sin is transgression of law and sin is of the devil, 1 John 3:8, you'd think the scriptural facts would be worth an honorable mention. The guy had no clue about what he was writing about.
Blame shifting from Satan to man is fairly common in academia. They're too smart to think there are actually invisible agents called Satan and devils.
6173fd No.4638028
>>4635077
More akin to driving positions out of the woodwork where people like to hide what they really stand for.
Catholics for example hate to hear about their anti-Semitic past and they try real hard to cover up the facts that anyone who doesn't agree with them on every scriptural count is worthy of death. They prefer to hide these facts to make proselytes, double sons of hell. Matt. 23:15
But give most of you enough time and you'll be extorting anyone who doesn't believe like you with threats of hell as well.
Happens all the time "in church." That's what they do. That's why they suck and people are leaving in droves.
Even the unsaved can smell the stench of ripe dripping religious hypocrisy and have sense enough to stay away from it.
The last people anyone should believe are the liars who stand behind religious pulpits. Worse than politicians. They are, for the majority, "killers in heart." Vicious wolves.
Ever Ready to promote burning their unsaved neighbors alive forever at the drop of a hat while they peddle their ever changing pet escape stories.
43551c No.4644022
>>4638028
>people like to hide what they really stand for.
Proof please (Eph 4:14).
Ro 3:23, 5:8, 6:23, 10:9, 10:13
ccf768 No.4646962
>>4637602
>They're too smart to think there are actually invisible agents called Satan and devils.
And thus have become fools.
ccf768 No.4647002
>>4622474
No, they're not, and no, your gnostic forefathers were not enlightened seekers of truth, nor are you.
b084ef No.4647412
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>4622482
Yeah many messages in the music indeed. You should post this stuff in the Occult bread too.
My fav in ur list is embedded.
>www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8Rf24KdOBw
43551c No.4647535
>>4647401
Do not be haughty, but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either (Ro 11:20–21).
e97ef7 No.4647618
>>4647412
Yeah, I like that one too. It's a bit imaginative.
But it's nice to see secular artists telling the second advent story in relatable, allegorical terms.
ccf768 No.4647647
>>4629120
Maybe it's time you reconsidered your stance that you do not need a savior, and that Jesus was tortured to death for nothing.
Revelation 20:15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
Is your name in the Lamb's Book of Life? No?
Do you not practice lawlessness, by violating God's commandments?
The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. (Matt 13)
Which baptism did you request from Jesus?
I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. (Matt 3)
No, your "universal salvation" is just another in a long list of lies told by the devil and believed by fools.
e97ef7 No.4647940
>>4647002
I have no gnostic forefathers, only Christian.
But with regards to what the patriarchs and the ancient prophets hid
exclusively for us today in their works, neither one is much better than the other.
This study dwells instead though, on how these ancient voices of the Creator "spoke with" the forces of nature.
And what that shows us is how that thinking differs with what we inherited from all forefathers since.
e97ef7 No.4648202
>>4638028
There is reference in Scripture to "Samaria" (the ten lost tribes that became the greater body of Christianity)
following "Baal" (which means, "master") priests for 3 years, until Elijah (end-time men of God) put an end to it.
Following 'masters' is the opposite of actually being a church (which is just the people) where ALL the people learn and teach.
The real practice of this is accomplished more now in an open forum, and among real truth seekers, such as what we have here.
And the 3 years of Elijah's time is symbolic of the three ages that have now just past.
ccf768 No.4648293
>>4647940
If it posts like a gnostic, sounds like a gnostic, reasons like a gnostic, and pushes things a gnostic pushes, it is a gnostic.
And has nothing to do with Christ Jesus.
The seven seal scroll is the title deed to the earth reclaimed by Christ Jesus from the devil, who took it from Adam.
Not some super spoopy knowledge that is going to make you like God. You will never be like God. Ever.
ccf768 No.4648335
>>4648202
Bullshit. Samaria is land to the west of Israel inhabited by people who were half Jewish and half gentile; outcasts from Israel, and disallowed in Judaism. Viewed as traitors, since they were not taken into Babylonian captivity when the Jews were.
They have nothing to do with the ten tribes of Israel.
The ten tribes of Israel were never "lost".
Ba'al worship continues today as Islam among other things, so no, Elijah did not put an end to it.
Elijah lying on the ground this way and that had to do with the punishment of the Jews for disobedience, and nothing else.
For someone who worships knowledge, you are a complete and utter fool.
b084ef No.4648349
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>4647618
What do you make of the dark sun symbolism so often used by the occult cabal?? Think David Bowie’s last album or the song embedded.
Perhaps Jesus told used the parable of the prodigal son to help explain??
I think these Q drops also relate to this…
The end is near
Nothing can stop what is coming.
Truth would send 99% of people to the hospital
What is the nearest star?
846bde No.4648388
>>4629120
the religare blood-sacrificing tards pray - thankfully to their "gods" - over terrorized and slaughtered sentient beings.
and they act offended when we point out the BLOOD dribbling from their filthy, murderous gob!
DSM Schizophrenics
e97ef7 No.4648511
>>4648335
At least I can discuss things without calling names.
That was Ezekiel laying on the ground.
And Samaria was the capital of the ten northern tribes, that were collectively called
"Israel," as distinct from the two tribes of the southern kingdom, called "Judah."
ccf768 No.4648764
>>4648511
Are ad hominem attacks worse than promoting satanic doctrine?
e97ef7 No.4648918
>>4648349
Both sides (white hats and black hats) use SOME of the same symbolism, mainly because it is ancient, timeless and subjective anyway.
Similarly, there is only one knowledge (see Genesis) of both good and evil.
Cornell was a brilliant, well-inspired artist. In this selection, "Black Hole Sun," he combines two different but common concepts and likens them collectively to "coming salvation."
The concept of a black sun is that of a theoretical, invisible, second center to an elliptical path. How this relates to Earth is with regards to it's elliptical path around the sun, but also around another, invisible point in space, the "black sun" (the other center of the ellipse) He is using this concept to elicit the idea of an unknown, but major "hingepoint" of the Earth (which is the "unknown" work of God in it). And he connects this concept with that of a black hole, which is known for drawing all things to itself.
So yeah, this also relates to the second advent going on now, of which we are all pawns in the game.
e97ef7 No.4649201
>>4648764
Well, I think satanic doctrine is better understood in the general threads than on this one. Here, you find a lot of mis-guided doctrine (mostly without ulterior motive) and folks that are a bit set in their ways. But just the nature of this board at large gives place to some that really check into and consider what others have to say. There are those that want to learn, but they want to do so for themselves, not for somebody else. And they reject bad attitudes right off the bat.
e97ef7 No.4649293
>>4648293
>You will never be like God.
Who are you arguing with?
The kingdom is inside of His people.
None are He, but He is in all.
846bde No.4649429
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>4649201 sumfag going to tell us blood-sacrifice includes cannibalism?
if a religare-tard prays thankfully for anti-live- can it be good?
b084ef No.4649466
>>4648918
Agreed. I believe the tilt of the earth is also due to this other magnetic pull from below… personally, I’m looking forward to God folding this place up like a box and bringing us all back to the Kingdom.
The end is nigh endeed. Very exciting times.
ccf768 No.4649575
>>4648511
>>4649201
>There is reference in Scripture to "Samaria" (the ten lost tribes that became the greater body of Christianity)
Samaria is not the ten lost tribes. That is a lie. That Ahaz was headquartered in Samaria is due to the fact that Judah holds Jerusalem, and only Judah produces kings in Israel. Ahaz and Jezebel were not righteous royalty; they were satanic rebels.
So that's a lie, and all lies do the work of the devil, aka satan. Satanic doctrine.
>following "Baal" (which means, "master") priests for 3 years, until Elijah (end-time men of God) put an end to it.
Ba'al means Lord, not master. Elijah lived what, 2600 years ago, appeared at the Transfiguration, and will testify to the world during the tribulation. So again, Elijah, not "end time men".
So that's a lie, and all lies do the work of the devil, aka satan. Satanic doctrine.
>Following 'masters' is the opposite of actually being a church (which is just the people) where ALL the people learn and teach.
Some are teachers…..etc. You know, from the bible.
So that's a lie, and all lies do the work of the devil, aka satan. Satanic doctrine.
>The real practice of this is accomplished more now in an open forum, and among real truth seekers, such as what we have here.
You calling yourself a truth seeker is a LARP of the highest order.
>And the 3 years of Elijah's time is symbolic of the three ages that have now just past.
No, it is not. It was a prophecy of how long Israel would remain scattered.
So that's a lie, and all lies do the work of the devil, aka satan. Satanic doctrine.
ccf768 No.4649589
>>4649293
>The seven seals of Revelation are keys to unlocking hidden wisdom in the Bible.
The person you wrote this gnostic satanic bullshit.
aka YOU.
ccf768 No.4649603
>>4649293
>None are He, but He is in all.
More animist pantheist pagan drivel from a satanic idiot.
e97ef7 No.4649659
>>4648764
I just answered this.
Then you showed everyone I am right three times in a row.
ccf768 No.4649667
>>4649659
Yes, you keep posting satanic doctrine.
What name were you called again, that was not descriptive of your activity?
b084ef No.4654283
>>4649659
There are some very annoying shills here… what are they so worried about??
The fake bickering and attacking of everything is a sad attempt to derail what we do here.
There’s a place for everyone… I would hate to be them.
Keep up the good work fren. Don’t let the shills bother u.
6173fd No.4654534
>>4647647
I'd suggest you turn up reading and comprehension skills rather than straw man impositions.
1 Tim. 4:
10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
I'm not the only one who can read.
I also believe in the UNIVERSAL destruction of the wicked in the eternal LoF. The devil and his messengers.
fefc57 No.4654608
>>4654534
2 Timothy 2:16
But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness,
6173fd No.4660971
>>4648202
Similitudes, allegories, parables, symbols is tricky territory.
Where most stumble in this arena is the failure to realize that there is an invisible kingdom presented in the scriptures, in Matt. 12:26 and Luke 11:18 for examples, and the "occupants" of this kingdom are not visible agents.
Jesus provided the pathway to understanding "all" parables in Mark 4:13 to Mark 4:15, dissecting His Own Parable and divulging the characters in Mark 4:4 in Mark 4:15, to which Paul also refers to in Eph. 2:2 and other places.
The components of similitude/allegory/parable are God's Words, mankind and Satan.
If any of the 3 are missing, and you should be able to guess which one is almost always missing, then the dissections are OFF BASE. The missing component is always Satan and his kingdom & occupants, which technically RULES over all the spiritually blinded. Acts 26:18, 2 Cor. 4:4, Eph. 2:2. This understanding is also at the heart of Paul's teachings in Romans 9:18-24, Romans 11:8 and 2 Tim. 2:20-21 for examples, showing the invisible components factors.
ALL of the adverse symbology that is deployed thoughout the scriptures revolves around the invisible kingdom and it's occupants in some form or fashions.
That's why it's quite pointless to look at just mankind or geography or history. None of these encompass what is not seen. And as we know the "Kingdom" does not come via observations. It's an INTERNAL MATTER.
The amazing part is that even though it is set right out in the open to be seen, it's still missed by most of the readers, and invariably directed some other way, any way but the direction intended.
Revelation 14:8
And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
This type of "fornication" is not external, but internal. Mixture of man and devil.
Revelation 18:2
And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
Now harken to the parable in Mark 4:4 to get a look at the fowls who can not be seen, and SEE THEM for what they are, repeated, three times, is, is, is followed by 3 forms of depictions, all speaking to adverse spiritual agents.
The internal resistance movement IN MAN that is NOT MAN is always a factor in scripture, always. And this will be the case until THEY ARE ALL TAKEN AWAY at thee end.
The HOPE of the Gospel revolves around the eventual and final destruction of Satan and his messengers, and their RULE over the flesh of all mankind, inclusive of believers.
It's a hard pill to swallow for anyone, but scripturally, it's a simple fact. Paul in the below was given a permanent reminder of the state of his own flesh, just so he wouldn't forget that God is not just dealing with Paul:
2 Cor. 12:
7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
And every blinded believing slave will CRY OUT, that this does not apply to believers or particularly themselves.
Reality is though that all are sinners and sin is of the devil.
Do the proximity math.
43551c No.4661301
On Trump's watch. Trust God's plan. Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10 https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jan/6/why-america-must-not-surrender-americas-pastime-to/
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43551c No.4661356
>>4648202
>the ten lost tribes
https://www.gotquestions.org/lost-tribes-Israel.html
ccf768 No.4662817
>>4654534
>specially of those that believe.
How did you miss this part, again?
Believe, and be saved.
Believe not, and be damned.
Mark 16:16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.
John 3:15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
John 3:18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Your "universal salvation" is a lie. You, unbeliever, you will bend your knee to Christ Jesus on his throne, and you will confess that He is God.
Then you will be cast into eternal punishment, into the lake of fire, for your unbelief while you yet lived.
"Universal salvation" is a heresy from the pit of hell.
ccf768 No.4662843
>>4660971
Parables are only for the children of God; the children of the devil have nobody to explain it to them, nobody to help them understand the higher meaning. Because unbelivers do not have spiritual discernment, they deal with something like brute beasts, not understanding it, but tearing it apart.
Parables are coded messages for the saved, and have nothing to do with the unsaved.
Matthew 13:13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.
ccf768 No.4662857
>>4662817
Picking from these verses, does it sound like "everyone is saved"?
>condemned
>perish
>perish
>condemned
No, it doesn't, does it. You think you're saved because Jesus died on the cross? Where does it say that in the bible, again?
ccf768 No.4662880
>>4660971
>This type of "fornication" is not external, but internal. Mixture of man and devil.
Pagan fornication in this sense is having other gods, and not the one true God. God presents himself as a loving and doting husband; Israel as his wife; and her straying from him as adultery and fornication.
Even without demons, mankind is endlessly wicked, and ready to stage a coup against Jesus after a thousand years of Eden on earth.
Men are more wicked than angels/fallen angels.
243f8a No.4666341
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>4662880 "…golden globes - a christian thanking satan "
1c4e00 No.4666538
I don't know why but that infinity sign reminded me of POTUS standing behind the grave in Arlinghton. Infinity keeps on showing up. It looks like it has a deeper meaning than the chans.
check this video out =
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht3G-KCpfFw
7171c5 No.4666552
>>4662817
>>4662843
1 Peter 5:8
Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.
7171c5 No.4666572
>>4666538
See - this is how 8ch fagoots work.
Notice if Trump would turn around and face the other way, he's once again have is back to other graves?
See how brainwashed they are here to know comprehend reality nor think for themselves truth? But stay in your dark mindless world and god forbid, don't use your frucking brain. It will destroy yourself..
243f8a No.4666592
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>4613833
He 11:25 FRUIT is Paradise' Treasure - for frugivores.
He 13:4 Orangutans don't do incest and don't need hu-man' "law" to think, emote and ACT GOOD.
And IF an Orangutan family goes " Aristocrats !!" - they go kNUTs and extinct verily quickly.
1c4e00 No.4666603
>>4666572
yes, thank you for explaining….but, i think there is more to it…. it's hard to explain ….. it's my first time posting here, i've been following from the start, but this has more to it, that is why i've posted fo the first time
7171c5 No.4666684
>>4666603
Explain then what more it says? My god, get a life and walk away from computerland and interact with humans. Your brain lost all logic and common sense to see the world in someones elses shoes…
1c4e00 No.4666727
>>4666684
you are very funny. you nothing of me and yet … take it easy please, i was just trying to communicate something… i might surprise you…who knows!
7171c5 No.4666739
>>4666684
>>4666572
>>4666538
Photos say 1000 words yet you only are confused that it could mean more then 1? Your mind is closed to any other meaning in the 1 your brain is locked into. Its called brainwashed, yet the person is unable to comprehend they are brainwashed themselves… They do it upon themselves.
1c4e00 No.4666751
>>4666684
i think POTUS is trying to communicate something to us. It might be related to something OLD as in ancient
ccf768 No.4666789
>>4666341
One of my favorite pastors said it best. If you want to be rich, famous, powerful, influential, and showered with drugs, sex, the nicest things on earth, you'd do well to worship the devil, because if you worship him as god, he will give you all of those things, because they are his to give.
But then you'll go to hell for an eternity, so you have to figure out: is it worth it?
7171c5 No.4666815
>>4666751
My god you really are that stupid? So every photo means something is behind it? So if you have a family member in your entire life take a photo of you, or anyone you know, does that mean their are "Secret Meaning" to them? So one photos anyone, each and every single photo one takes each have "secret meaning"? Just smort somemore drano and you'll be fine. So every photo you are in, each have secret meanings? Even it any president who is in public, has 1000s of photo each event, so each have "secret meanings"? Living in parents basement, no job, out of school, single, no gf…? Could tell. You are the easiest to self brainwash yet you can't comprehend how you yourself brainwashed yourself nor comprehend you are a mindless zombie..
243f8a No.4666867
>>4666572 don't obfuscate - you'll be exposed, deposed and disposed.
Remedy MAN breathe IF u can - triffids luv da LorAX and 'n the Land Of The Blind <:> 'tis the way it goes :)
7171c5 No.4666870
>>4666789
Are you right now living in heaven or hell? How do you know if earth is heaven or hell? I Don't play bible tag as you walked down your path in life and I walked mine, and everyone walks their own.
1c4e00 No.4666902
>>4666815
you've been a concreet block….thank you so much…keeping on insulting me won't win you a medal of honor…. i'm not american you%^$#…… and no…. i don't live in the basement….. and i've been digging in where none of you have….. i was hoping to get some help or clue from someone, i ended up on you….. you do throw others what you seem to be = none human….let me remind what Q always says = the anons are here to guide, they are the base, the pillar which will hold it together when it hits the fan…..you certainly did everything apart what Q hopes you will do…..thank you sooooooo much…..
919ee2 No.4667045
>>4666902
hahahahaha - No american - thats cool but who do your grandparents look up that saved their asses?
Anon's are a guide, but you must understand, truth is truth with facts - something most can not provide. Facts are needed yet 8ch nothing is factual and they pray upon those with weak minds where theories and pure speculation is enough for them to 100% believe. Trust is verified factually or no trust can given without facts. Theories and Speculation are not facts - only word games to brainwash.
Never forget:
2 Peter 2:1
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.
243f8a No.4667067
>>4666789 did your "favorite pastors" condone blood sacrifice and eating terrorized, slaughtered sentient beings?
Don't stress - i murdered animals for taste pleasure when i was confused.
243f8a No.4667132
>>4666870 7 billion hu-man slaughter more than 150 billion sentient beings per year - for taste "pleasure" .
We live in potential Paradise but blood-sacrificing, adrenochrome addicted, pedovore TARDS CHOOSE to bring hell to earth.
don't obfuscate TARD
1c4e00 No.4667173
>>4667045
actually america bomb my country….. and you are right, facts are important…. i cannot talk much unfortunetly… i only wanted some clue or help in research…. i'm anti-tech sort of person…. and i do have actualy STUFF…. i just need info, help and clues or someone to point me…. i'm not asking anyone to believe me…. you are all behaving live hyenas…. i know there are bad "elements" lurking in here…. you might be one of them, you might not be…. i don't care… i'm not asking to be believed or convince anyone….. All i know i'm onto something ….. as i told you before, this is extrememly hard for me to explain…..
i'm a researcher if you want to call me that and i know what it is to talk without proof…. that is why i'm holding back this much…. but i am certain that i'm onto something more than obvious and it's related to something ancient…. and remember how the bad "elements" have a thing for symbols and old stuff….
919ee2 No.4667258
>>4667132
To who's opinion are you talking? "Potential" paradise is not the same as "real" paradise now isn't it - or is it? To one, this is paradise and yet to others, this is not paradise. So you think only your point of view is the correct one, and everyone else is wrong? See how blinded you are to think everyone in the world must follow your thinking. Yet what about those who have no parents as a baby, or abused, in real chains, or raped in cages today. So only your view is the only view?
How many immigrants did you take under your roof, bed, feed? How many children did you adopt? None - yet you claim to be of God, yet you only pick n choose what you want to do, so you select whatever you want, and put out of your mind by the things you choose not to do as the bible says.
919ee2 No.4667327
>>4667173
So then, what is the "Secret meaning"? Same time different angle - wouldn't that mean a totally different meaning an secret meaning within the lenses? See how ones mind is so clouded and brainwashed not to see reality.
To me, you have a alternative secret meaning to cause harm and disruption here? Correct? Prove me wrong my opinion is wrong. Impossible. Only closed self brainwashed minds can't comprehend they are brainwashed, yet their very own minds created its own pathway and removed all other walkways.
243f8a No.4667384
>>4667258 don't start me Tard: EYE MIRROR AND AMPLIFY. I CHOOSE to be symbiotic with earth. THAT (trivium) IS ALL.
Objective reality IS ALL <:> !
Intending harm of sentient beings is anti-live.
do you harm sentient beings?
Seriously - DO YOU?
919ee2 No.4667516
>>4667384
What ya wanna poke my ahole Tard? Guess your dog is tired to be poked?
Aren't we all sentient beings that god created? See how you distract from truth's?
1c4e00 No.4667532
>>4667327
actually my reasearch dates back to a decade…. and everything that Q has been talking about i keep on finding "repeats" in history, it's as if this bad elements thingy has been done over and over again….. and i've managed to retrace back all the way back to Roman times…. and i don't know why no one is taking a clooser look to the BOURBON familly line….
and again i'm not here to disrupt as you call it…. i knew ever since i was young a lot of what is being talked in here…. i was shocked to the horror i discovered like a year or so ago…. i mean i know about the political and financial aspect of the bad guys but i never knew the horrible things they did…. and this has kinda opened pandora's box for me and i can see the spider's web lines, i am just adding a new layer in the OLD stuff that i'm finding out….. it's blo*wing my mi*nd out of it's place, mostly how old this shit (sorry) is….. i cannot believe, it's been a bit more than a year since Q showed up, but i still cannot believe how they managed to hide these horrors for this long…..
919ee2 No.4667560
>>4667532
Matthew 7:1-29
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. …
1c4e00 No.4667585
>>4667327
in the santa elevator at Trump tower (i am correct?) some anons found a fleur de lys upside down on the santa hat….. that blew my mind…. i keep on telling you POTUS and Q are always trying to point us to something more than what the anons are finding out…. and today my mind blew again with this infinity sign…..
1c4e00 No.4667631
>>4667560
is this from King James bible? we don't have it where i am from….
961f44 No.4667764
>>4667631
the portion left out of most bibles: "and with the measure you use it will be measured to you." As well as "You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye"
ccf768 No.4667846
>>4667067
Did God give his animals to mankind for food? Is this in the bible? Was it always that way? Will it always be that way?
Are you the same as an animal?
1c4e00 No.4667866
>>4667764
ever since i posted in here, you keep on being hostile and attacking me…. mirror, mirror…
don't even bother to reply….. i've had enough of your insults….. thank you for your not patience and your time….
ccf768 No.4667875
>>4667866
I see 1 post by Angela.
961f44 No.4667878
I ask you to kindly read my testament. /boa/
961f44 No.4667899
>>4667866
How so, I rarely if ever post, and if I do, I do so out of love.
1c4e00 No.4667950
>>4667899
My apologies Angela
ccf768 No.4668041
>>4667866
Think you're pissed off at that Sauce dude, which, ironically, is giving him what he wants.
243f8a No.4668098
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>4667846 don't be a dumb cuck.
>>4667516 SHALOM ALEICHEM :)
kNOW Doreen Dotan?
ELOHIM ARE OUR MOTHERS<:>*
Logically :)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Q8EKy7To49GmE0UmH73Tw/videos
1c4e00 No.4668103
>>4668041
i understand… mirror is horrible… i wish people like him would take it to the ONES whom' been trying to destroy everything and everyone……….
working alone to dig up stuff is really hard, mostly if you have limited resources and means and cannot talk much
ccf768 No.4668157
>>4668098
Bible v (you)
(you) lose, as usual
Genesis
So God blessed Noah and his sons, and said to them: “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be on every beast of the earth, on every bird of the air, on all that move on the earth, and on all the fish of the sea. They are given into your hand. Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs.
ccf768 No.4668170
>>4668103
He's on their team, rooting for the devil to win. He's a lost reprobate. Make sure you're okay.
1c4e00 No.4668192
>>4668170
what you mean make sure i'm ok? you mean they will trace me or something?
i'm new so i do't know
ccf768 No.4668227
>>4668192
No, I mean take good personal care of yourself, physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually, so that shill trolls like Sauce cannot cause you to lose your composure.
0f8d74 No.4668266
The Sabbath
Mark 2
23 And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the
ears of corn. 24 And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful? 25 And he said unto
them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him? 26 How he went into the
house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and
gave also to them which were with him? 27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
Matthew 12
1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn,
and to eat. 2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the
sabbath day. 3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him; 4 How he
entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him,
but only for the priests? 5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath,
and are blameless? 6 But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple. 7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I
will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless. 8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
9 And when he was departed thence, he went into their synagogue: 10 And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they
asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him. 11 And he said unto them, What man shall there
be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days. 13 Then saith he to the man,
Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other. 14 Then the Pharisees went out, and
held a council against him, how they might destroy him.
0f8d74 No.4668279
The Law
1 Corinthians 9
19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more. 20 And unto the Jews I
became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under
the law; 21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might
gain them that are without law. 22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I
might by all means save some. 23 And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.
Galatians 3
19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and
it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one. 21 Is the law then
against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should
have been by the law. 22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to
them that believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come,
we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as have
been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male
nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the
promise.
Matthew 5
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you,
Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore
shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but
whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your
righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Mark 12
28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him,
Which is the first commandment of all? 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God
is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy
strength: this is the first commandment. 31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none
other commandment greater than these. 32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and
there is none other but he: 33 And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all
the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices. 34 And when Jesus saw that he
answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.
Luke 20
45 Then in the audience of all the people he said unto his disciples, 46 Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and
love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts; 47 Which devour widows' houses,
and for a shew make long prayers: the same shall receive greater damnation.
1c4e00 No.4668280
>>4668227
thanks….. he didn't affect as much as it sounds because if a shill like him picked up on my first post about the infinity signs having a deeper meaning that what we alaready know, i might be on the right track……..
243f8a No.4668516
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>4668280 u know y i like math?
it outs tards 'cause it's universal comprehension <:>
kNOW Dr. DONALD E. KNUTH
https://www.cs.umb.edu/~rvetro/vetroBioComp/compression/FIBO/KnuthFibb.pdf
i know Bull Fighters and seen sum gored
243f8a No.4668689
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>4668157 denial is the worst, most evil sin :
http://thenazareneway.com/essene_gospel_of_peace_book1.htm
243f8a No.4668816
>>4668170 it begins with your god-damned fridge 'n freezer ; ANY blood and anti-live in IT?
CHOOOSE what you consume to livE and the "system" collapses Gently…
or disappear up your own arse - i don't care. Really - like, “I really don’t care, do u?”
the un-begun and the dead are worm food
e97ef7 No.4668950
>>4666538
>Infinity keeps on showing up. It looks like it has a deeper meaning than the chans.
>>4666751
>It might be related to something OLD as in ancient
>>4668280
>i might be on the right track……..
I'd say you are. Certainly infinity chan is the obvious implication in that photo, but there is ancient meaning and much greater significance to it than that of any and everything else on this board. It represents eternal life, which man only receives (collectively) when we overcome the grip evil has on our dominant forces of government in the world. The world becomes sustainable then and begins to mature into a different "world."
It just takes getting our history right and realizing how the forces of divine nature have acted on our social development throughout it, to see what the future holds.
That's what these are about.
>>4622474
>>4622482
>>4635813
e97ef7 No.4669092
e97ef7 No.4669145
>>4669092
>>4667327
>So then, what is the "Secret meaning"?
That we have found eternal life, but have yet to unearth it.
Dig anon, dig…..
e97ef7 No.4669156