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BEWARE OF THIS TREAD

No coincidence they keep it going.

They want you divided

They want you bickering

THEY will start the division

With ignorant posts.

THEY will fuel the bickering

With hate and division.

THE ANON IS A FAKE

TRAITOR SHILL

WHO HATES GOD

AND WORKS WITH A TEAM

JUST WATCH

and be warned.

Woah woah woah, is everyone a bot in here? Y’all just beep boopin to yourselves now? That doesn’t seem like any fun at all.

you could email this stuff back and forth to yourself.

why is it here

Namefag = famefag

>>4017780

wtf are u on shill?

>>4019378

shills have invaded the biblefag breads, particularly starting on #3… thats what happens when u get over the target.

they spent the entire last bread with gay faux christian arguing to slide the few decent posts that were there.

I’ll make sure there’s a special corner of eternal hell for the shills that sully these loafs. They’re giant faggots.

>>4023935

Namefag just fuck off you're embarrassing yourself and us.

You sound like a 55 yo on too much oxy

Shill.

>>4023935

Was it the Q source bread title that triggered your desperate shilling?? You wreak of desperation. Must have hit a nerve!

>>4024033

shills gonna shill,

you should understand that,

like the Q-tip says,

blame others for what you yourself

are doing,

>>4020511

you don't think people needed to fill

the dumpster before the dump run,

Kushy job I imagine,

don't lean on any untrustworthy reeds,

the grass been growing before you

started your morning sir,

you think the grass doesn't see the

EYE, you think the grass never knew

who was planning on moving into the

house,

the grass prepares before the dumpster

knew a thing,

if you thought you were a good apprentice,

then the studio knew first, maybe the President

knew but so did everybody else, that's what

happens when your staff talks behind your

backs, the EYE didn't see a thing,

Don't respond to the bread spammer and I'll clean up the thread every so often.

>>4023319

>>4023906

>>4023564

>>4024441

Filler nonsense? Really, that's what you call it? GOD'S WORD.

Why do you call me a shill and mossad when I only post God's Word?

GOD'S WORD.

You hate that, don't you?

SHILL FREAKS GTFO

Yes, the only logical and reasonable answer is you are a paid disruptor.

Jdl/Soros basement dwellers/liars

You paste your same shit all over the threads, not just here.

>>4023408

All of you asshole shills

Hope the BO identifies your group

UFO thread here. We have exactly the same kind of "beware of X" shill there. Stay strong bros.

>>4023906

You are so ignorant of God's Word because you hate God.

You liar. Namefag.

I will defend GOD always,

You have a different father

George Soros wannabe fag

>>4024592

thank u anon! I’m going back to ignoring their annoying asses. They love projecting. I wish they would try being creative. They’re just so damn boring.

I'm reposting this because it is so important in understanding God's purpose and plan, as I was heavily attacked for it by the disruptors and sowers of hate on #3.

The root never changed hands or identity. Best to skip today's arguments dwelling on and applying labels as to who got cut off. That's not God's point or intention. God is clear on who got cut off and why.

Breaking with him and leaving him and knowing there is a way back is the true message no matter what our nationality is.

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Romans 11:11-31

11But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root[b] of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. 19 Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” 20 That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. 22 Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God's kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. 23 And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.

Does God tell you that you should go to men's sources and doctrines to learn about him? Or to listen to any man?

No. He says trust no man.

Go to his Word and be

taught direct.

His Book is alive.

YESHA'YAHU (ISAIAH) 28:10

Tzav La-tzav, tzav la-tzav, Kav la-kav, kav la-kav z'eir sham, z'eir sham

[Precept by precept, precept by precept, line by line, line by line, a little here, a little there]

Here's what he says about books:

Kohelet (Ecclesiastes) 12:12

In addition my son, take heed: one can write many books — there's no end to it; and one can study so much that it wearies the flesh.

LEST YOU BE LED ASTRAY

GOD DOESN'T LIE

MEN DO.

"Bible-fags versus unleavened bread"– is this organic?

Why are we here?

"They want you divided by religion" –Q

But we, on Q's board, are so fixated on dividing ourselves by religion that we need to make 4 threads about it?

Is this organic?

Is this even vaguely plausible?

Is this saturated in stereotyped "chan" lingo– a sure red flag?

How is 4chan controlled?

Organic?

"Bible-fags versus Unleavened bread"– is it awkward to even read something this cheesy?

Are anons awake here?

If fake shit it pushed, and anons stay passive and say nothing, is that tacit consent to be controlled by a system of fakeness?

WHY ARE THE SHILLS SO TRIGGERED BY THIS THREAD??

The untamed mind is a danger to them. They dont want you to realize that Constantine cannonized the bible and then proceeded to hold book burnings, where original Gospels written about the sayings of Christ by firsthand witnesses were destroyed…

The Nag hammadi discoveries provided proof of the Q source.

Q SOURCE

There are no coincidences.

>>4025310

Yes, it is to be an organic awakening! Requires digging. Dig dig dig.

Don't forget, Constantine's Roman government enacted the Sunday Law in 321ad under which mass genocide of the early occurred due to they kept the 4th Commandment.

Changed to forced worship of their sun god. They changed God's calendar from 1st day, 2nd day, 3rd day…. 6 days we work, but on the 7th we are in God's rest, with him. All they have been doing is stamping GOD out. Erasing him, saying good is evil and evil is good.

Organically dig on how God hates those who say good is evil and evil is good. Dig on who he says changed his calendar; and trace the formations of the churches and money used back through the 13 Illuminati powerful bloodlines. It's the same people & $ that set up and financed the skull & bones fbi cia cfr 5 eyes WW web and all of the other evil we deal with.

One difference now, with thank you God to our faithful President and Q whose boss is God, is we know ouw enemy clearer than we have ever seen. A good source with fantastic references cited on bloodline money is pdf Bloodlines of the Illuminati by Fritz Springmeyer. I read it a long time ago and since it is CIA disclosed, thanks ro Q.

THE GREAT AWAKENING

WEG1WGA has a beautiful meaning.

Paul taught thusly, as did the other inspired penman:

Acts 28:23

And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, -→persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets,←- from morning till evening.

The "Q" source wasn't required. Jesus, The Word was already written, and taught in the Law and the Prophets, to which Jesus also expounded, post His Own Resurrection no less:

Luke 24:

25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to -→believe all that the prophets have spoken:←-

26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

27 And -→beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.←-

The New Testament is intimately linked and virtually inseparable from the Old Testament.

Every basic tenet of faith in Christ is found in the O.T. and expounded upon in the N.T. via H.S. inspired engagements, which I might add, is still available today for seeking readers, engaging therein.

John 16:13

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

2 Tim. 3:

14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;

15 And that -→from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures,←- which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

They left plenty of scriptural meat on the bone for all of us to reflect upon and engage with.

Nevertheless, Paul was not against any way that Christ was preached, even in pretence:

Philippians 1:18

What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

Paul believed Jesus was sufficient to gather and Lead, regardless. Any writings must pass the muster of being built upon the Law, Prophets and Apostles in any cases of sights/teachings/leadings.

Isaiah 8:20

To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

>>4025310

Is this expected to fool anons?

Stale style, cheesy bluster, stereotyped blathering?

"Q is going to reveal the truth about Constantine"– that's the big mystery guys…?

All for the transparent purpose of creating a fake atmosphere of religious hatred that is REPELLENT to the normies we are supposed to be waking….?

Meanwhile, quality threads are locked or deleted by the "BO", who manifests an enthusiasm for this kind of absurd and embarrassing "chan culture" fakery…?

So why are we here?

We KNOW there is a reason.

Are anons waking up?

Because some of this shit is so weak and stupid, we are mocking ourselves if we fail to call it out and demand answers.

FIGHT

>>4025695

It is One Book. The big liar separated it and has used if for division killing destruction and keeping us sheep from the truth. Destroying as many as he can.

One Light

One Truth

One Way

One Root

Proverbs 8:22+

"Adonai made me as the beginning of his way, the first of his ancient works. I was appointed before the world, before the start, before the earth's beginnings.

…For me, every day was pure delight, as I played in his presence all the time, playing everywhere on his earth, and delighting to be with mankind.

<mindblowing>

John 1:1+

In the beginning was the Word

and the Word was with God,

and the Word was God.

He was with God in the beginning. All things came to be through him, and without him nothing made had being.

In him was life,

and the life was the light of mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not suppressed it.

<true molecular science>

>>4026091

You are revealing yourself as both a God hater and a dirty troll.

Why harass honest anons? Why do you attempt to keep others from the truth of facts that expose the lies that have been shoved down our throats?

Your argument is with God. You have no power here.

>>4026091

No true anon and seeker of truth would make such worthless statements to suppress the truth. Why shouldn't we dig on Constantine? Is he your relative or something?

There is only one truth and we should seek it….

Damn, the last thread was moving at around 5-7 posts a week then someone triggered the crazies. Got over 100 posts from one insane person, who CAPITALIZES every OTHER word.

REPENT! The END IS nigh! The EVIL WITHIN!

INDWELLING in the FLESH! Gods Ultimate DESTRUCTION!

lmfao. Raging hard on for torment. I assume he is a BDSM freak on his off days.

>>4023599

Jesus spoke Greek. The New Testament was written in Greek, not some backwater Hebrew dialect a hand full of dirty villagers barely knew how to speak properly.

God is not fucking stupid.

Stick with God and you can handle the truth, no matter how uncomfortable it might be. This isn't a course offered in a liberal university, sigh, so sorry there are no safe spaces to hide out in.

By virtue of this research, we are NOT the ones that "created a fake atmosphere of religious hatred." That would be Satan and his followers down through the generations. You should give credit where credit is due and not stick some liberal trigger word on us.

So, choose a side. The truth will set you free. Or keep defending the darkness. We all have a choice, and this is only the beginning.

Just my opinion, but I think God and his angels rejoice on high when even 1 sheep frees himself from the bondage of the corrupt churches and opens their eyes. They are watching you know, they are watching the great awakening, and Satan really hates that. The serpent squirms knowing his time is near.

It's called get out of Babylon.

>>4026091

>>4026884

Your argument is with God. Why are you pissing yourself making a scene over greek? It is a nothing burger, except that greek mutilated hebrew meanings in some instances.

I will never ever believe that the annointed Messiah, the royal seed, raised a Hebrew in a Hebrew setting, all his life, who spoke and taught in the synagogues, spoke greek to do that. It did not happen.

And the Book of Hebrews, written for Hebrews, was not originally in Greek. Aramaic was the common language in Israel at the time. There were many different cultures and languages used.

Go argue with someone else.

What you say doesn't matter anyway.

JOHN 4: 22-26

…true worshippers will worship the Father spiritually and truly, for these are the kind of people the Father wants worshipping him.

>>4026817

Yes, I see you are using a lot of caps. Lol. I thought the insane person's posts got deleted. Do you have issues with scriptures too?

>>4026817

I thought the guy using red caps, and your repeated over and over message, struck me as very shilly. You keep that going but don't seem to make any intelligent posts. ???

S÷ee you're back on your evil within in spiel… How about something productive and indusive to God's truth? You seem ro REALLY butcher it up. Hope the caps don't trigger you…

>>4026884

Oh, I think I understand where you're coming from now. You have a deep hatred for "backwater" "dirty villager" Hebrews/Jews so you turned Jesus into a greek….. Lol lol lol. lMAO

GOD IS GOOD

>>4026817

kek. agreed. ur post was attacked by shills so it proves u were right.

I cant believe how shilly this biblefags loaf is. Truly shows how desperate the enemy is.

This is some hilarious stuff!

Keep up the good work anon. Ur triggering shills.

>>4027352

Everyone in Judea was a Greek speaking resident of Rome.

And yes, I look at it from the point of view of reality. His message would not have spread anywhere if he predicated in some unknown language only a handful of dirty villagers barely knew how to speak properly.

He predicated in Greek. He predicated in Koine Greek.

It's also the language he spoke first hand to Pontius Pilate and the centurion.

It is not disputed by any serious biblical scholar. Only idiots and those who would keep you in the dark would argue otherwise.

I already know in which category you fall.

>>4029158

You are a moron and a liar.

I asked you to quit harassing me over your own stupidity. So just stfu. Can you understand English?

"everyone in Judea was a greek speaking citizen of Rome"

still LMAO

@ the time of Jesus. God did not limit languages communicating the Good News. Jesus and all of the Talmid were Messianic Jews. Case made by scholars 4 gospels, Acts, Revelations and a couple of letters were written in either Hebrew or Aramaic. Many Jews in Diaspora, then and now, had two names. Sha'ul was Paul's Hebrew name, Paul was his name suited to the country he lived in.

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Wikipedia

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Historically, Aramaic was the language of the Arameans, a Semitic-speaking people of the region around between the northern Levant and the northern Euphrates valley. By around 1000 BC, the Arameans had a string of kingdoms in what is now part of western Syria. Aramaic rose to prominence under the Neo-Assyrian Empire (911–605 BC), under whose influence Aramaic became a prestige language, and its use spread throughout most of Mesopotamia and the Levant. At its height, variants of Aramaic were spoken all over in what is today Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Palestine, Kuwait, Eastern Arabia, Northern Arabia, and to a lesser extent parts of southeast and south central Turkey, and parts of northwest Iran.[4] Aramaic was the language of Jesus,[5][6][7] who spoke the Galilean dialect during his public ministry, as well as the language of large sections of the biblical books of Daniel and Ezra, and also one of the languages of the Talmud.

>>4031201

Aramaic was a dead language by the time of Jesus. It's like saying Latin is the language spoken today in Europe because it was spoken 700 years ago. Nobody speaks the dead language and only few even study it.

Imagine an idiot trying to spread the good news today running around speaking in Latin.

Please, don't be fucking stupid.

Judea had been completely Hellenized 500 years before the birth of Christ and the entirety of the region spoke Greek and only Greek.

Every single piece of the New Testament was written in Greek. Jesus predicated entirely in Greek.

There is no way to get around reality and truth.

If you don't like it you can choke on my dick to make you feel better.

>>4033066

Like I said just stfu and leave me alone. You offer no sauce except what spews out of your mouth.

>>4033066

Youtube fail. Do real research.

Expose The Truth

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Matthew 26:71 (The cock crows 3 times…when they recognized Peter's Galilean accent: Aramaic dialect)

After a little while, the bystanders approached Kefa and said, "You must be one of them — your accent gives you away."

Aramaic

Abba (Rom 8:15)

Ephphatha (Mark 7:34)

Marana tha (1 Cor 16:22)

Mammon (Matt 6:24)

Talitha qumi (Mark 5:41)

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INTRODUCING ARAMAIC: THE LANGUAGE JESUS SPOKE

From what we know, in Galilee towards the end of the Second Temple Period, the only language spoken by the Jews was Aramaic, with Hebrew being preserved at the time only in the southern area of Judea. Thus, it safe to assume that the language of Jesus was Aramaic.

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Had it been only the Jews who spoke Aramaic, it might well have passed out of common usage. Aramaic was the language of the Middle East at the time, among Jews and Gentiles alike. Inscriptions in churches across the Holy Land attest to this

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Aramaic had been an important ancient language since the period of the Babylonian Empire, and was so commonly spoken that Jews in Galilee, such as Jesus and his disciples, spoke Aramaic as their daily language. (Aramaic is very similar to Hebrew, about as close as Spanish and Italian are today.)

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Christian Aramaic Literature

Although Jesus spoke Aramaic, the Gospels are in Greek, and only rarely quote actual Aramaic words. Reconstruction of the Aramaic background of the Gospels remains a fascinating, but inordinately difficult area of modern research.

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Keyword: Reconstruction

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Paul spoke to the Jews ‘in Hebrew’ and when the apostle said the voice from heaven spoke to him ‘in Hebrew,’ a form of Hebrew was actually meant (though perhaps not the ancient Hebrew) and not Aramaic.​—Ac 22:2; 26:14.

Lending further support to the use of a form of Hebrew in Palestine when Jesus Christ was on earth are early indications that the apostle Matthew first wrote his Gospel account in Hebrew. For instance, Eusebius (of the third and fourth centuries C.E.) said that “the evangelist Matthew delivered his Gospel in the Hebrew tongue.” (Patrologia Graeca, Vol. XXII, col. 941) And Jerome (of the fourth and fifth centuries C.E.) stated in his work De viris inlustribus (Concerning Illustrious Men), chapter III: “Matthew, who is also Levi, and who from a publican came to be an apostle, first of all composed a Gospel of Christ in Judaea in the Hebrew language and characters for the benefit of those of the circumcision who had believed. . . .

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Lots more numerous books, news articles & Bible Societies

None say Jesus used Greek as his everyday language, because he didn't.

No wonder you can only call names.

>>4032806

Thank you for the chart. I appreciate it.

3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.

6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?

Language is not a barrier to the Holy Spirit

>>4026817

Half of the intentions of God is to provoke evil via His Words, in case you hadn't noticed.

1 Corinthians 15:56

The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

Romans 7:13

Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

Divine Principle of our current construct 101:

Mark 4:

15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Elementary example with open evidence:

God says love your neighbor as yourself. Where do the majority of the believers land? They end up believing most of their neighbors are going to burn alive in hell forever. The very opposite of Gods Command. A person can not hate another person any more than this.

BUT, if we manage to see what happens where the Word is sown, there is a culprit involved within the person that is not the person. So the result is not unusual. It's an openly revealed phenomena that exists openly in nearly every sect of christianity. All these people are and remain under the internal control system of the great dragon.

It's quite interesting, what the devil(s) do within them. And they all will automatically deny this happens within them as well. But then again, _it's not them denying_.'

There is, in reality, an invisible kingdom of evil, that operates this present world. No question about it from the scriptures.

God can bring the divide within the person, or He can and does allow evil to blind, steal and reign.

Entirely His Call.

Romans 9:

17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

Who is Pharaoh in the language of the Spirit?

Ezekiel 29:3

Speak, and say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his rivers, which hath said, My river is mine own, and I have made it for myself.

Revelation 12:9

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, _which deceiveth the whole world_: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Scripture presents a whole world, and a divided world. The _whole world_ is under the deception of Satan.

The divided world sees this Spiritual reality. Most believers see the whole world under the deception of evil, of Satan. However it's always the other people's problems. And therefore they end up hating their neighbors, when they should direct their hatred where it belongs, to their own evil present with them.

Romans 7:

21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

Paul is not talking about the "other guy's" evil present, _but his own_.

When any believer DOES see these things and apply them personally, they have taken their first steps into Christ's discipleship. And He will lead them in the proper dividing of The Word.

God's Word is a powerful weapon. It causes all kinds of interesting things to transpire within those exposed to same, depending on how the great dragon rears its ugly head, _in exposures_. That's exactly what is meant to transpire.

When Jesus, Gods Living Word Spoke, the great dragon moved quickly to expunge Him. And again, that was exactly how God Meant things to transpire.

Acts 4:

26 The kings of the earth _stood up, and_ the rulers _were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ_.

27 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both """Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,'''

28 For _to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done_.

Those few who are led to see and who know they have an adverse to God will functioning within them, will see the _whole world_ as scripture sees and depicts it. They'll love their neighbors and direct their hatred where it belongs. And yes, it's real hatred.

Luke 14:26

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and _his own life_ also, _he cannot be my disciple_.

You won't be hearing too many preacher clowns in the pulpit or on the teevee, expounding from the scriptures about how and why they hate themselves. "_he cannot be my disciple_."

>>4034839

You are fu'kd up in the head.

Likey have been or under treatment for mental illness.

It's spiritual fed, his Word.

He teaches each of us according to our ability to hear him, not according to your delirious delusions.

To claim you know God's intentions is your own outlandish make-believe thoughts. How do you miss you're not the teacher?

Bully and jerk-

Disregard what this fool says.

His only mission is to lead astray and make himself important as he clearly relies only on his own understanding.

Now I'm waiting for you to sling out some more verses, call me evil, and claim my post means you're over the target.

Laughable.

>>4034839

I understand why you piss everyone off

But, why are you still here? ruining this thread? Same as you did on the others. Sowing discord and your delusions, probably paid to do so.

Nobody is listening to you.

>>4033066

Except of course for Jesus being quoted in Aramaic on the cross. i.e., tetelestai. Eloi, Eloi, lama sabacthani.

Glad you were there to know when the language went dead. Don't know what we'd do without you.

>>4034023

Since Jesus is God, you can assume he can communicate with all living, dead, organic, inorganic, spiritual, etc., beings. At will.

>>4038888

He has no limitations (but look what limitations "religions" and human understanding invent). We, on the otherhand, are limited in knowledge, and must seek it through him. So, we should not assume to know the depth of his workings, but, instead, do what he says: trust in the one who sent him and seek the one true way.

He turns away from evil like his Father. So, I cannot "assume" he engages in everything you list and view the statement as something out of your own understanding. He hears his children because his children know his voice, and are in a state of seeking him.

God is in the lost & found business

We should all build each other up.

A few scriptures

Psalms 9:10

Those who know your name put their trust in you, for you do not abandon those who seek you, Adonai.

John 6:45

"Everyone who listens to the Father and learns from him comes to me."

Matthew 12:30

Luke 11:23

Those who are not with me are against me, and those who do not gather with me are scattering.

Proverbs 30:4-6

Every word of God's is pure: he shields those taking refuge in him, don't add anything to his words; or he will rebuke you, and you will be found a liar.

While Jesus very likely spoke Aramaic, Hebrew, and Greek, Aramaic was likely the language Jesus spoke the most. The Gospels record Jesus speaking numerous Aramaic words: talitha koum (Mark 5:41); ephphatha (Mark 7:34); eloi eloi lama sabachthani (Matthew 27:46; Mark 15:34); abba (Mark 14:36). Historians, archaeologists, and cultural anthropologists are almost universally agreed that Aramaic was the common or colloquial language in Israel during Jesus’ time. Aramaic was very similar to Hebrew, but with many words and phrases that were borrowed from other languages and cultures, especially Babylonian.

Hebrew was spoken primarily by the scribes, teachers of the law, Pharisees, and Sadducees, the “religious elite.” Hebrew was likely often read in the synagogues, so most people were probably able to speak and understand some Hebrew. Since Greek was the language of the Romans, who had power over Israel during Jesus’ time, Greek was the language of the political class and anyone who wanted to do business with the Romans. Greek was the universal language at that time, so, the ability to speak Greek was a highly desirable skill. Some, however, refused to speak Greek out of resentment toward their Roman oppressors. When Jesus spoke with Pontius Pilate, it is possible that He spoke to him in Greek, although Pilate, as the governor, likely would have been able to speak Aramaic as well.

Jesus, as God incarnated in human form, could have spoken any language He chose. In His humanity, Jesus likely limited Himself to the languages common to His culture: Aramaic, Hebrew, and Greek. Jesus likely spoke whichever of the three languages was most appropriate to the audience He was addressing.

>>4037499

The information is there to be had. Whether you believe the information or not is irrelevant.

1 John 5:19

And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

If you paid half a wit of attention to what is being said, you might be able to engage, credibly.

>>4037578

What makes you think I post to you?

Scripture shows two parties in the construct of man. One God is for, the other God is against.

I lean to the latter side of the equations because scriptures are there to be read, perceived and pronounced. Just because you don't get it is irrelevant.

>>4041863

>>4041822

There you go again deciding for everyone what God is and what's relevant or not, what's credible and not, (even when it's scripture itself), even going so far as to define (in your earthly limited knowledge and understanding) what the construct of man is and what the mechanics are of the secret workings of the Word, who is God, all while telling me I don't get it. That's your message. Emphasis on your… Not God.

You don't see a problem with your big fat head? What are you???? Flying back and forth to God and gracing us with your "Devine" knowledge???

You are not the teacher and you interfere with persons getting their own knowledge from God. You take the key away, badly.

You even insult God's annointed (which should be no small matter) in your stubborn ignorance when you judge the Lord and apparently all of Judea calling them insulting names over the language they spoke. All because of your big fat head.

You don't edify anyone, you insult them attact them and tear them down in the name of how brilliant you are. You're obsessed with evil (your operating construct) but leave out the Good News the hope And God's plan for his children.

And yes, you have attacked me many times personally.

No one needs that on this thread.

>>4042533

Did Jesus speak to devils?

Uh, yeah, lots.

Sorry if you don't like it. Well, maybe it ain't you that doesn't like it?

You might try reading sometime.

2 Corinthians 12:7

And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

If you see only Paul in the above, try again, til you get it.

>>4042740

>Did Jesus speak to devils?

Uh, yeah, lots.

Sorry if you don't like it. Well, maybe it ain't you that doesn't like it?

You might try reading sometime.<

Hey, liddle anal retentive man who is full of hate and acts like a 3 year old…

I never said that, and you never asked me that. See how you start shit?

You must have a lot of problems getting along with your friends, if you have any left. You love evil and devils. It shows by how much attention and homage to give them when you attack people.

>>4043064

Yeah, using scriptures at a Biblefag board = bad man.

Go back to sleep.

>>4043114

Maybe your drunk or otherwise impare or on psychotic drugs,

Here's what really happened

you lied about what I said then you attacked me to start made-up shit,

then you posted scriptures.

That's your style and purpose liddle anal retentive man. That's what you do.

>>4043214

Didn't anybody ever teach you to not buy whole hog only into the rosy side of accounts?

Consumerism infection.

>>4041818

>although Pilate, as the governor, likely would have been able to speak Aramaic as well.

LMAO. You think the Roman governor of the province would deign himself to speak Aramaic? Please.

You people have been fed lies your entire lives. No one spoke Aramaic in the region but a few dirty villagers, which Jesus was a part of.

It's like saying Trump speaks fucking Comanche.

Please. Stop. Use your brains.

This is the point shills want to hide. Jesus spoke Greek and predicated in Greek. The New Testament was written in Greek. The new Testament in Greek, does not say anything remotely similar to what our current English translations (circa the 17th century) say.

There's a reason they went after all the Greek texts and destroyed them. There's a reason only two (sort of three) codices survived in Greek and the rest were in Latin.

The Greek texts are explosive.

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

BICKERING ANONS ARE SHILLS

The bs infighting is not organic. Do not react or respond to homo shills.

STOP SLIDING THE BOARD WITH DUMB FUCKING ARGUMENTS

>>4044470

Άντε γαμήσου μαλακά

Κοίτα ένα μαλάκα.

>>4044470

Look, I do not want to argue with you. But in defense the people you bash, let us consider what is written in the Greek version of the new testament.

It says Pilate wrote "King of the Jews" on the execution stake in three different languages, Hebrew (Aramaic), Latin and Greek. See John 19:19. All of these languages were common at that time why else would Pilate use all 3? The area was on a trading route and many peoples were there. Also, the scripture where Peter's accent gives him away as being from the Galil– All of the deciples, and Sha'ul, were Hebrews, raised in Jewish tradition, and every book in the new testament was written by Jews. Their native language was Aramaic. That is important given the prophetic nature of the Bible and the embedded Hebrew concepts and teachings and meanings. God did not abandon or set that aside regardless of the translation.

Also, large crowds of peoples gathered on many different occasions to hear Jesus speak from other regions and countries, such as Symaria, when they brought all of their ill and afflicted to Jesus to be healed. Their language was Aramaic and Jesus spoke to them in Aramaic, how else could they understand?

In Jesus' own words, Aramaic phrases are in the Bible (red letter), when he raises the little girl from death, and when he gives up his spirit to God. It is significant that Jesus spoke his last words on earth to the Father in Aramaic and the Greek version reflects that.

In addition to what we see in God's Word, many sources are easily verified by simple research in encyclopedias and historical records.

Anons strive to assertain the truth, though we may arrive at different conclusions. Let us respect that.

There is no need to beat a dead horse, is there?

On Trump's watch. Trust God's Plan. Hundreds Of Violent Migrants Illegally Storm The US Port of Entry, Attack Guards With Projectiles As Customs Shuts The Whole Border Down https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/migrants-illegally-rush-us-border-attack-guards-projectiles-customs-shuts-down-mexico/

[Liz Crokin banned on Twitter] On Trump’s watch. Trust God’s plan. Mk 9:41, 13:7, 25:8, 40, Dan 10:13, Ps 105:15, Ro 14:4, Mk 6:11, Is 45:24, 54:17, Re 12:10, 12, Jud 1:9

>Every C_A/MOS tactic of infiltration and internal disruption is being deployed on this board (central hub).

>The World is Here.

>Recognize.

>This movement is bigger than anyone can possibly imagine.

>Peace through strength.

>Q

>They want you DIVIDED.

>DIVIDED by RACE.

>DIVIDED by RELIGION.

>DIVIDED by CULTURE.

>DIVIDED by CLASS.

>DIVIDED by POLITICAL AFFILIATION.

>DIVIDED YOU ARE WEAK.

>TOGETHER YOU ARE STRONG.

>WE, THE PEOPLE.

>WWG1WGA!

>Q

POTUS TWEET:

>Melania and I wish all Jewish people Shana Tova and send our warmest greetings to those celebrating Rosh Hashanah and the start of the High Holy Days…

>>4047258

Curious shitpost. Just you posting the comment bringing attention to it when there is none of what you say

out of the ordinary

going on is proof of that…

What would your motive be I wonder?

To suggest that narritive?

Posting news articles, to fuel narratives?

Not the first time you've tried to incite invite and stoke fires highlighting division. Just look at the past threads.

Past does prove future.

The ones who hate God's Good News have been all over this board, since the beginning, and the ones who love God's Good News will defend him, as they have.

Nothing new in Clown College.

What's your Motive anon?

You're right, though, we are watching.

We notice your moves.

>>4047258

>>4046869

And there's always the two of you in concert doing it.

Disruptors. Bringing disruption.

So obvious you've become.

On Trump's Watch. Trust God's plan. DEW In Paradise, CA James Munder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRJ-1Wf8Qhs

>>4047258

>Every C_A/MOS tactic of infiltration and internal disruption is being deployed on this board (central hub)…

>Peace through strength.

Is 48:22

>They want you DIVIDED.

Who’s they? Lk 12:51

>DIVIDED by RACE.

Ac 17:26

>DIVIDED by RELIGION.

Jn 14:6

>WWG1WGA!

POTUS TWEET:

>Melania and I wish…

Trump is a child-killing, serial adulterer (Pr 8:36m, Ex 20:14). Trust God’s plan.

>>4047658

>Disruptors. Bringing disruption.

Eph 4:14

“Truth is hate to those who hate the truth.” ~ Bob Enyart

>So obvious you've become.

Channeling Yoda like Q? Follow him/her/them all the way to your FEMA camp for your block of cheese.

>>4048852

Bob Enyart. How much a month are you paying him for enlightenment?

heeheeheeheeheeheehee

heeheeheeheeheeheehee

heeheeheeheeheeheehee

1 Corinthians 3:1

For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Yeshua the Messiah. Some will use gold, silver or precious stones in building on this foundation;

while others will use wood, grass or straw. But each one's work will be shown for what it is; the Day will disclose it, because it will be resolved by fire — the fire will test the quality of each one's work.

>>4049264

correction>

1 Corinthians 3:11

>>4049128

> [Troll] You at work again

You support child-killing, serial adulterers (Pr 8:36, Ex 20:14). I do not.

“I prefer clarity to agreement.” ~ Dennis Prager

> busy creating fake arguments

Fake news (Eph 4:14).

See:

Child-killing Trump http://prolifeprofiles.com/donald-trump-pro-life-profile

>>4049264

> heeheeheeheeheeheehee

He who laughs last laughs best.

Sheol from beneath is excited for you to meet you at your coming (Is 14:9).

>>4040091

You have everything backwards. It's very odd. As his child, I hear his voice, and follow him, not the other way around. We do not need to seek knowledge from Jesus; the entire point of the episode preceding the Fall of Man was Man turning away from Jesus and eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, in a vain attempt to be like God. So no, we do not have to do as you say, and we do not have to accept what you say, because what you say is utter foolishness. I am not "in a state of seeking Him" because I have already found him. You don't continue looking for someone you've already found. And finally, in your mess of a post, if Jesus "turned away from evil" as you say, tell me: how does Jesus defeat evil?

>>4050375

> You don't continue looking for someone you've already found.

When you sin, do you confess? 1 Jn 1:9

Q SOURCE IS THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS

When the spirit of Christ enters your spine it climbs your 33 vertebrae (Jacobs ladder) to the "throne of god" pineal gland igniting the "kingdom of heaven" consciousness

>>4050521

> [To board owners] Please track them and take them out.

Jn 8:36, 2 Co 3:17, Re 13:1-18

>>4050412

All of the sins of mankind were forgiven at the cross, or they were not forgiven at all. Why ask for something that was already provided to me before I was born? Does that not indicate a profound ignorance on my part, to ask for something I already have? Every single day? Every single week? From a man in a booth who has no more power to forgive sins than I have?

>>4050375

Just curious, did you learn that on youtube or at church?

Where to begin? There's literally hundreds of verses saying we should continuously seek the Lord. How else do we grow in God's knowledge and get wisdom?

David's are my favorites…

Psalms 17:6-7

Now, I call on you, God, for you will answer me. Turn you ear to me, hear my words. Show how wonderful is your grace, saviour of those who seek at your right hand refuge from their foes.

Psalm 17:15

But my prayer, in righteousness, is to see your face; on waking, may I be satisfied with a vision of you.

1 Chronicles 16:11

Seek Adonai and his strength;

always seek his presence.

Psalms 14:2

From heaven Adonai observes humankind to see if anyone has understanding, if anyone seeks God.

Proverbs 28:5

Evil people don't understand justice, but those who seek Adonai understand everything.

Hoshea 10:12-13

If you sow righteousness for yourselves, you will reap according to grace. Break up unused ground for yourselves, because it is time to seek Adonai, till he comes and rains down righteousness upon you.

Why did they murder the prophets?

>>4051012

Because I'm not a Jew.

>>4051012

>Why did they murder the prophets?

You mean "Why did they murder their prophets", and the reason was that their prophets were giving them bad news about their future, based on their disobedience. If you think you can please God by keeping God's Law, you're one in a long line of people who does not know God, or God's Law.

>>4051017

The root never changed, we were grafted into the natural vine. Jesus didn't come to start a new religion, or to abolish even one dot of the Torah. The "churches" did much to deceive the sheep.

Unlearn the world

Learn God. One Book.

One Light. One truth.

You won't be taught that in church.

They follow the world.

===

Romans 11:11-31

11But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root[b] of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you.

>>4051119

It's difficult discussing these matters with someone who lacks all wisdom and discernment, so you'll have to bear with me. I said the reason I did not look to the OT to seek God was because I am not a Jew. More specifically, I am not an actual Jew, living in Israel, under the Old Covenant. You may not have noticed, but every time Jesus refers to Jews he refers to them as people who say they are Jews, but lie. No, the Jews cannot rely on the Old Covenant for anything, and have not been able to, for over 2,400 years now. If they want to seek God, they must have the Son.

I am not disparaging Jews in any way, and the converted Jews I have known are the best Christians I have known, being steeped in the Law and in Truth and Grace. They are few and far between.

You are not one of them.

>>4050786

>All of the sins of mankind were forgiven at the cross…

1 Jn 1:8

Do you reject Christ’s lordship in your life?

"You cannot have a 'come in Savior' and a 'stay out Lord' (Ro 14:9)." ~ Adrian Rogers

>>4051012

>There [are] literally hundreds of verses saying we should continuously seek the Lord.

They've got religion. We've got a relationship.

>>4051037

It's actually extremely clear you are a jew hater shill, and not familiar with the Bible at all, (or you would know what Jesus said about that, and you would know what milk v. solid food is).

You are here for shitposting and starting worthless arguments. You likely hate God too. I hope the BO tracks your shit posts and bans you.

You offer nothing here, and your words are worthless.

>>4051183

Lacking all wisdom and discernment, you continuously babble words without meaning, clouds without rain. And you're running out of time.

John's letter to the gnostics, who believed that they had no sin in them as they only sinned in the flesh, and not in the spirit, was not for you unless you are also a gnostic, who believes you have no sin.

If you know you are a sinner, then that verse taken woefully out of context is not for you.

>>4051211

Aye, and Jesus' harshest condemnations were for the most religious people who ever walked the earth.

>>4051231

Child, calm yourself. If you want to be saved, do what Paul wrote of in Romans 10:9-13, and be saved. Once saved, you will be given the earnest downpayment of the Holy Spirit, who will teach you what the word of God means.

I have said nothing about hating any Jews; quite the contrary, if you had the requisite reading comprehension skills I would expect of someone old enough to post here. And as Jesus is the Seed of Abraham, the Root of David, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, the Jewish Messiah, the King of the Jews, etc., I would be a fool indeed to claim to belong to Jesus, yet hate Jews.

You have not bent the knee to Jesus.

You must bend the knee to Jesus.

IF Admin or BO is monitoring this thread,

please investigate these ids and their hash. They are shills

SHILLS

f1dd80

53635a

334c85.

There's probably more of them.

>>4051437

What a strange, sad little man you are.

Translations can really make a difference when the Hebrew words and meanings found in the precepts established in the Tanakh are not applied.

For instance, compare these verses:

The whole world lies in wickedness; compared to the whole world lies in the power of the Evil One. It has a whole different application.

John 5:19

We know that we are from God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the Evil One.

The pope recently changed the Lord's prayer. Consider the clarity of two verses showing the earlier translation was rendered in error because God tempts no one.

James1:13-

No one being tempted should say,

"I am being tempted by God."

For God cannot be tempted by evil,

and God himself tempts no one.

Rather each person is being tempted whenever he is dragged off and enticed by the bait of his own desire.

Then having conceived, the desire gives birth to sin, and when sin is fully grown, it gives birth to death.

Don't delude yourselves, my dear brothers.

Matthew 6:9-13 (Yeshua instructing on how to pray—The Lord's Prayer)

9 You, therefore, pray like this:

"Our Father in heaven!

10 May your Name be kept holy.

May your Kingdom come,

your will be done on earth as in heaven.

11 Give us the food we need today,

12 Forgive us for what we have done wrong, as we too have forgiven those who have wronged us.

13 And do not lead us into hard testing, but keep us safe from the Evil One,

*For kingship, power and glory are yours forever.

Amen."

*latter half of verse 13 is not found in the oldest manuscripts.

There are more errors in renderings, especially surrounding Paul's teachings that many find confusing and ambiguous without the proper application of the Hebrew words and meanings. It changes it.

>>4034839

You, who claims to know God's intentions… Love your neighbor as yourself means to provoke evil? You need lots of prayer due to your CNN projected, twisted stupidity. Wisdom only comes from God. Pray.

Will unfilter you after six months to see if you God blessed you with any.

>>4034839

Spot on brother!

>>4054888

I believe that our faith is tested by God constantly by the simple option of choice,"free will", in our thoughts and actions.

Untested faith is unreliable.

Was not the "tree" in the Garden of Eden a test? I think that "Lead us not into temptation" means that we are asking God to prevent us from the temptation of evil.

God only allows us to test Him on one thing and that is tithing/giving where He will bless us with more than we gave.

Oh, the VICAR one (I am God) with his many gods that line his sanctuary, that has his own city, golden robes, golden crowns, own bank, that prays to saints to get to Jesus to get to God (that is nowhere in the Bible), protects pedos, and that studied with the Jesuits in Frankfurt Germany when he was 12, should be the new author of the Lord's Prayer. NOT! He should be in Gitmo with only a KJV Bible to read.

>>4054888

The pope is wrong:

The pope recently changed the Lord's prayer. Consider the clarity of two verses showing the earlier translation was rendered in error because God tempts no one.

James1:13-

No one being tempted should say,

"I am being tempted by God."

-

and God himself tempts no one.

Genesis 22:1

And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, -

And everyone will come rushing to God's defense, saying it really means some other word.

But on the other hand, maybe not.

These verses can be entirely harmonized when we bring the tempter, the devil(s) into the picture of man's construct, as Jesus showed us:

Mark 4:

15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

We know for a scriptural fact that all have sin and all are sinners. We also know for a scriptural fact that sin is of the devil. 1 John 3:8.

When we are quite falsely led to see only one party in the scriptural equations of man, we are actually being blinded to the internal reality of the devil with mankind.

And yes, God does treat that entity class in opposite fashions from mankind. Since the parties are clearly shown to be overlapped in thousands of instances in the Gospels, particularly, we should technically be able to see the fact. BUT again, the resistance to this fact is REAL and is from the devil, blinding the readers to this internal reality.

We know from Paul that unbelievers are blinded in mind by the god of this world. That would be SATAN in their mind, blinding, STEALING Gods Words from them. 2 Cor. 4:4, Eph. 2:2, easy examples.

When we get all the parties on the table, IF it's possible, we do get an entirely different picture of God's Sight of "man." And that sight is NOT just man. It is man and devil.

So we can for example take another set of scriptures, that without the anti-Christ spiritual antagonist in the picture of man, there is no reconciling:

3 John 1:

11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.

And we have Paul's clear statement:

Romans 7:19

For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

WAS John really saying Paul did not know God? Of course not! Paul himself described the sin that dwelt in his flesh as "no longer I." We also know sin is of the devil. THE DEVIL is clearly in these scriptural pictures, even with Paul:

2 Corinthians 12:7

And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

This fact also explains how Paul could declare himself the chief of sinners, AFTER salvation in 1 Tim. 1:15 -→ because Paul is not seeing only Paul. Paul is seeing himself in the LIGHT OF MARK 4:15, as Jesus showed him and all of us.

The pope is wrong. The pope has the same problem with the devil as Paul did, and as all mankind do, because of the reality of Mark 4:15. And that is also why the pope and his magisterium CAN'T SEE IT. Because there is an internal thief involved, stealing the fact from them.

Who does God tempt? It ain't man. Is man just man? Do the scriptural math.

Similar mistakes transpire with the law. Is the law only for man? By no means. The law is for sinners, 1 Tim. 1:9, and we also know the devil is a sinner. Satan is also "moved" to resist Gods Words (Mark 4:15) IN MAN and the Law is God's Word, also.

When God spoke the first blessing to Adam, and then the first law, DO NOT EAT, what happened? Read Jesus in Mark 4:15 and you might see more than just Adam and Eve in the picture.

IF we don't believe what Jesus said in Mark 4:15 applies to us, personally, then we are technically UNbelievers of His Words. And are the victims of internal theft and internal deceptions via Satan.

Jesus told us every Word of God applies to man. Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4. We don't get to cut and toss.

>>4056452

Spot on brother!

Speak in Tongues?

>>4056601

tongues isn't gibberish,

allegory are tongues,

all of Jesus parables were tongues,

all the bible is a book of tongues,

this is why Paul said he spoke

more tongues than anyone, cuz

his letters to the churches are all

tongues,

>>4056693

It is a language of men or angels. It is inspired utterance. The operation (energizing) of holy spirit within the believer who has received holy spirit upon believing.

Paul exhorted all to speak in tongues much. For it is perfect praise, perfect prayer to the Father. I pray in tongues, and I pray with the understanding, also. He that worships, MUST worship in spirit and truth. Or, more accurately, truthfully via the spirit. Or by speaking in tongues. For speaking in tongues is the evidence of the indwelling of holy spirit given when one believes on the Lord Jesus and believes that God raised him from the dead.

Do all who have received holy spirit speak in tongues? No.

CAN all who receive holy spirit speak in tongues? Yes.

It's a matter of understanding the truth of the matter and desiring to manifest. That you speak in tongues is your desire or will. What you speak is energized by God.

>>4049264

some will use government as their foundation,

>>4048766

>>Every C_A/MOS tactic of infiltration and internal disruption is being deployed on this board (central hub)…

same thing is happening in the Q operation

& few realize it, every time there is an election

people go in with nubile eyes all over again,

every time some guy comes in as the hero

everybody is willing to swallow it one more time,

people including the President & the EYE

could never conceive they could be duped by

a security breach,

>>4056452

temptation = testing

God does not tempt people to sin but he allows them to be tested.

>>4056900

Agree with that.

In OT oftentimes the Hebrew idiom of permission must be understood. As in "God allowed it". [No credit ever given to the Adversary in this manner]. Refer to Job. He never blamed God. He knew there was an adversary who brought his distress. And he knew it was his own believing that brought it on himself.

In Abraham's case: God allowed the temptation. And realize God never asked Abraham to sacrifice his son. He asked Abraham to offer Isaac as a burnt offering. That is, to offer him in complete service to God. To give him over to God to accomplish His purpose.

Abraham's own logic led him to think God wanted him to sacrifice his son [likely being confused with the Baal worship sacrifice in the culture].

So we see God intervening with the angel basically saying, no dumb ass Abraham, that's not what I meant, but thanks for the effort. It shows you have the right heart in the matter. Here burn this ram instead, but I need Isaac alive….

>>4056452

Please review these verses. I included the Greek words so you can see what happened in the translation. It shows the truth in the Word of God. It always shows the truth.

=

Matthew 5:17-20

Jesus Speaking

"Don't think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete. Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a strike will pass from the Torah — not until everything that must happen has happened."

Luke 16:17

Jesus Speaking

…"But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one stroke of a letter in the Torah to become void."

Jesus did not do away with the Torah.

Greek

erga nomou and upo nomou are translated wrong as

"works of the law" and

"under the law"

It doesn't refer to the Torah itself, it refers to man's legalistic perversion of the Torah.

Hebrew meaning

erga nomou = legalistic observance of Torah commands.

upo nomon = "in subjection to the system which results from perverting the TORAH into legalism.

Infer from Sha'ul correctly, legalism, whether Jewish, Christian or other is bad, but living according to God's Torah is good. Further, the New Covenant has been given as Torah by Jesus on Mt. Sinai on the basis of better promises.

What's written on your Heart?

God's Word? What is God's Word?

What did Jesus come to complete? Why does Jesus say he didn't come to abolish the Torah? That's what Sha'ul explains in detail.

It is One Book.

Greek is inadequate again.

In Messianic Jews (Hebrews) 8:6 Greek says the New Covenant was enacted or legislated on the basis of better promises. This is inaccurate unless it was referring to some Roman Decree. But it's not.

nenomothetêtai is a compound of nomos, which literally means law. But to Jews it means Torah, specifically, and tithêmi, a common word meaning put or place. Look at Hebrews 7:11that also the only other use of nenomothetêtai where everyone agrees it refers to giving Torah on Mt. Sinai, also like nomothesia in (Romans 9:4) and nomothetês in (James 4:12)

The New Covenant given through Jesus is Torah just as the Sinaitic Covenant given through Moses is Torah.

Being a Greek scholar you should be able to follow this.

It was never intended to be two books.

>>4057005

That's not right about Abraham. He would have never broken faith with God over Baal. There is some great knowledge about Abraham in the Book of Jubilees. His Chaldean history when he was growing up. There's tons of stuff in the Book of Jubilees. (Also available for free online downloadable pdf) Fragments were found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

B'resheet (Genesis) 22:1-2

After these things, God tested Avraham. He said to him, "Avraham!" and he answered, "Here I am." He said, "Take your son, your only son, whom you love, Yitz'chak; and go to the land of Moriyah. There you are so offer him as a burnt offering on a mountain that I will point out to you "

>>4057005

You are seriously off base. Do you even bother reading the Word or just go straight to making shit up? There was no temptation. God tempts no one. James 1:13. That's a false teaching. It was a test and Abraham passed it. Read the verses. He tests all of us.

>>4056398

Lead us not into temptation is a wrong translation.

Lead us not into hard testing is accurate. God tempts no one but he tests our hearts. We temp ourselves with our own weaknesses and desires. Sometimes, even often, outside forces tempt us. God says don't let evil enter your house. He tells us how to overcome it, but we are human and ….

It takes work to stay on the path and not veer off. Another reason to seek him always. He is so great!!!

Ok, I think I see what's going on. You have a really really crappy translation. God tempts no one, not Abraham not Eve, not David, not me not you no one. Read James 1:13 in your Bible and see if it says God tempts us. If it does, get a new Bible. Translations are important and you should understand by now God and his Word and have been compromised by satanists and translation committees full of masons.

Get a Messianic Jewish translation like the JNT (Jewish New Testament). It will have the correct word translation. The Complete Jewish Bible is fantastic. These are Jews who love the Lord. "Christians" should not reject the root. There was no replacement religion, and the Jews were not replaced as God's people. The Word is clear on that.

And before anyone's head explodes over the Jew word, just remember not only is Jesus a Jew, he is still a Jew; he brought the Good News to the Jews first and the Messiah from Israel prophesied in the Old Testament, and the New Testament, all have a Jewish origin. That is the truth. Tens of thousands of Jews believed Jesus and were saved and they composed a great lot of the early Messianic Church which had both Jews and gentiles. All of his closest followers, his disciples were Jews. Jesus is King of the Jews.

There is a lot of Christian anti-Semitic garbage over Jews rejecting Christ and it's reflected in translations and in churches that try to steer away from the old testament like it is bad and separate. God doesn't teach that and anyone who does, is lying.

God's children are God's children. Who are Christians to make divisions?

Until we woke up, look who's been running the show. The fucked up eye.

Don't harden your heart over these words. Think about it. In fact, open your heart.

>>4056693

>tongues isn't gibberish,

Tongues are known languages—or it’s gibberish.

>>4056452

>The pope is wrong:

>The pope recently changed the Lord's prayer.

The popes attempted to change a lot about the gospel of Jesus Christ (Jud 11).

Why do you think Trump chose a CaTHOlic for VP? Rev. 17:1–18

They want you DIVIDED.

DIVIDED by RACE.

DIVIDED by RELIGION.

DIVIDED by CULTURE.

DIVIDED by CLASS.

DIVIDED by POLITICAL AFFILIATION.

DIVIDED YOU ARE WEAK.

TOGETHER YOU ARE STRONG.

WE, THE PEOPLE.

WWG1WGA!

Q

>>4059539

>They want you DIVIDED.

Mt 10:34

>>4057697

>>4057750

Regarding Abraham and his temptation or proving, if you will, the following is offered. For who's benefit was Abraham "tested"? For God's benefit? Do you contend that we must prove ourselves to God? And that God constantly tests us to prove ourselves to him? This mindset is the foundation of religion. The very thing Christ Jesus rejected in his earthly ministry.

Judges 11:31 "Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the Lord's, and I wll offer it up for a BURNT OFFERING."

The above is a commitment Jephthah vowed to God he would do if he were successful in defeating Ammon.

Judges 11:33b-34

"Thus the children of Ammon were subdued before the children of Israel. And Jephthah came to Mizpah unto his house, and, behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances: and she was HIS ONLY CHILD; beside her he had neither son nor daughter."

Remember his promise? He must now offer her as a BURNT OFFERING.

Go ahead read the record and see where Japhthah killed his daughter and burned her. Oh wait, that didn't happen.

"And it came to pass at the end of two months that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man. And it was a custom in Israel, that the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament (=celebrate in praise) the daughter of Jephthan the Gileadite four days in a year."

Wait, what? She's a burnt sacrifice, no?

Should be toast, no? And yet we see her alive and given in service to the Lord, remaining a virgin, and being visited four times a year and praised for her honoring of her father and her commitment to God.

So, no, this shit is not made up. It's God's Word. The temptation, test, proving of Abraham was a request by God for Abraham to offer his son Issac in full service to Him. For Abraham to put God above all else, including his son Issac. To give Issac wholly over in service to God. Do you believe that God, who knows the heart, did not know what Abraham would do? For who's benefit is the temptation?

>>4059580

Well mostly they want you stupid.

They want you stupid.

They want you stupid.

They want you blind.

They want you in bondage.

Perfect example: God does not tempt. You shouldn't even have that false teaching in your head. But you do.

What happens?

What do you do?

Give long arguments and speeches on using your wrong Greek words about how God is mistaken, and how smart you are. You change the whole meaning of his Word.

Same about tongues.

The Word does say It's

Jibberish to those who don't speak in tongues. What's the advice?

Do it in private or only when you have someone to interpret for those who can't understand. It should only be used if edification is possible.

Should that be a cause of arguments here?

But indeed, you argue more over that.

Someone on here really really really likes to argue over how smart they are and how stupid God is. They have it all figured out fir everyone else.

Problem is, it's based on the lies in their own head. Where do the lies start? Look at the lying false teachers everywhere, in books, in churches, on YouTube. Lol. And you flock to them, and actually pay money to have the lies put into your brain. Who gets judged first? False teachers. What happens to you when you follow them instead if God? You get destroyed.

Here, everything thing is an argument for how smart you are, because you got YouTube knowledge.

They want you stupid.

They want you blind.

Then, when someone says the truth,

Division ensues.

You divide yourselves.

But blame someone else for dividing you.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to SEE that. This Q crumb is better suited for this board:

Sheep no more.

Take a good look at whose dividing us?

The division is always prompted by lies.

Who is the father of lies?

Who comes to destroy?

Yes, we are being divided,

Let astray by lies.

Out of our own mouths.

It is One Way

One root

One Light

One Truth.

You will be lost until you figure that truth out. It's a given.

>>4057536

"Greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."

Do you understand this? Do you believe it?

The spiritual power given to the sons of God is greater than the power of evil. Why? Because it is the power of God.

"For we wrestle, not against flesh and blood…."

"Take unto you all the armour of God…."

This refers to the spiritual power of the believer.

"There is nothing new under the sun."

In the operation of evil, nothing new. "The whole world lieth in wickedness ( in the power and authority of the adversary)."

But, "Greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world." Do you beluve this?

>>4059681

Yes we must fucking prove ourselves to God. God tests hearts. We are being tested in this age. Put through the crucible. It is all testing.

You should just through that "temptation you blame on God" out of your head. It makes you stumble.

How did God find Abraham righteous? Because Abraham trusted God always anf followed him with all his heart, never veering to the right to to the left. And because of that trusting, God credited his account as righteous. Notice, no "law" was involved.

It's the same for us. We need to be found worthy to be with God. That happens by trusting.

Trusting him. What increases faith?

Trust. Who are we trusting in?

Hard testing and trips through the crucible will show. That's God's way of testing our hearts.

This precept is taught all through the Bible. Read the Bible to get knowledge.

Get God's knowledge. The Torah should be written on our hearts. When the angels come and mark the believers, they will see what's on your forehead -inside your brain.

Don't be let astray by idiots repeating false teachings to you.

That's a test too.

Double hearted believers got problems with God says God.

>>4059877

>This Q crumb is better suited for this board:

>Sheep no more.

Q probably should talk about:

“Traitor

1. a person who betrays another, a cause, or any trust…”

Isn’t that exactly what child-killing, serial adulterer Trump (Pr 8:36, Ex 20:14) did to his wife? Matt. 19:6

Why would a country trust a man who can’t even be trusted by his own wife (who lives down the street in a hut)? Rom. 7:2, 3

Get the hooker out of our WH. Didn’t John the Baptist’s murder start with a pole dance?

>>4017478

>There are no coincidences. The power of the Gospels.

at least some people understand

that God is in control,

nice pic in OP,

certainly no coincidence,

in God we trust,

hopefully God is cued by the obvious supporters,

God's people understand the code of ethics,

the reason for God's success,

>>4060081

>>This Q crumb is better suited for this board:

>>Sheep no more.

>Q probably should talk about:

>“Traitor

oh the irony,

>>4059920

Why are your telling me this?

Here's some for you. Jesus Speaking, so make no mistake or try to argue with him.

Matthew 7-21-23, where he

quotes Psalms 6:9(8) in last verse.

"Not everyone who says to me,'Lord, Lord! will enter the Kingdom of heaven, only those who do what my Father in heaven wants. On that Day, many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord! Didn't we prophesy in your name? Didn't we expel demons in your name? Didn't we perform many miracles in your name.' Then I will tell them to their faces, 'I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!"'

Luke 13:22-27

Yeshua continued traveling through town after town and village after village, teaching and speaking his way through Jerusalem. Someone asked him, "Are only a few people being saved?" He answered, "Struggle to get through the narrow door, because — I'm telling you! — many will be demanding to get in and won't be able to, once the owner of the house has gotten up and shut the door. You will stand outside, knocking at the door saying, 'Lord! Open up for us!' But he will answer, 'I don't know you or where you come from! Then you will say, 'We ate and drank with you! you taught in our streets!' and he will tell you, 'I don't know where you're from. Get away from me. Get away from me all you workers of wickedness!'…

Thesee words from Jesus are directed to double hearted fake Christians and TV prophets who follow in their own ways and understanding, whether or not they trusted in a false teacher or not, and even when they say all the magically delicious "right I'm saved" words. That's not what will save you.

Why does Jesus quote the Old Testament so much? And warn about false prophets and false teachers so much? You're being fed garbage in churches. Get out if Babylon.

>>4060307

Or dumbass blind sheep.

Oh wait, he already does that.

But, do you listen? No.

>>4060287

God is in control. The lesson is, you're not.

>>4060287

if I didn't word that properly I apologize,

Filipino is my first language

>>4060430

>Not everyone who says to me,'Lord, Lord! will enter the Kingdom of heaven

Ya think?

You can’t kill 50 million babies, elect a child-killing, serial adulterer as President (Pr 8:36, Ex 20:14) and think that you’ll continue to be blessed.

God has always had a remnant. We’re headed out soon. He’s got a plan to spare us from what’s to come (Re 3:10).

Trump is an impenitent man. If I had to guess—he’s staying.

>>4060470

sorry, Filipino is my first language,

or at least so I'm told,

>>4060081

Traitor lmao.

By all means then, I'm a traitor to you for not believing your nonsense and standing squarely on every word if God.

The same God who's Q's boss.

More LMAO.

Please, Call be more names.

It makes me laugh and is

so entertaining.

>>4060484

only Filipinos are sheep,

all others are goats,

>>4060081

Oh, I see. You're here for political disruption. Why don't you go post on a political forum then, shill troll?

>>4060529

>…i'm a traitor to you for not believing your nonsense…

Who cares what I believe? Eph 4:14. What has God said? Mt 4:4

>…The same God who's Q's boss.

If Q were honorable, he’d encourage Trump to repent (Acts 2:37, 38). He’d tell us all to put on sack cloth and ashes and beg God to forgive our wicked nation. Maybe we’d have a prayer. Instead, Q is a cheerleader for the child-killing, serial adulterer (Pr 8:36, Ex 20:14). Last I checked, the US still isn’t in prophecy. Now you know why.

>…It makes me laugh and is so entertaining.

Pr 1:26

>>4060628

>>4060590

when the Anon says God I think he means

the EYE of the pyramid, & yea he's correct,

this entire operation is being done by the EYE

of the One USD, the reason is that the Illuminati

got too dangerous & now the EYE stepped in

to try to save what would have resulted if

the Illuminati were in power,

>>4060669

>the EYE stepped in

Looks like Satan has already begun to throw the Hoe under the bus (too bad our WH doesn’t do the same [Lev. 20:10]). Rome is exposed for who she is. Satan will tolerate only worship of himself (Re 13:3b–4, 8).

>>4056825

No, it's usually the lost trying to convince other lost cultists that their gibberish is proof of their salvation.

>>4024574

don't worry, I have an inkling in my

spirit that God knows & has seen

it with his EYE,

I think Lucifer the Light Bringer

shed way too much light on her

doings of darkness that the throne

of God has been illuminated,

I'm beginning to realize that the

EYE of God knows what is going

on, God will sift the Filipino sheep

from the Egyptian goats now that

God has seen with his EYE &

heard the tongues that has illuminated

his EYE to the truth of the code

of ethics that are as wide as the

mouth of the Nile Delta,

>>4061062

I've prayed for the Day that

God's EYE would see the

obvious illumination being

caused by Lucifer & I have

that unction that God finally

sees the illumination caused

by the Light Bringer,

WWG1WGA, finally,

>>4060030

Spoken like a Pharisee who presents God as our taskmaster.

And who blames God for our own self-inflicted trials and tribulations in life (as we open our own selves to the adversary)"God is testing and strengthening my faith by tempting and testing me" sums it up, no? Bullshit.

"In all this Job sinned not, nor charged God foolishly." Job went through some serious shit, no? He didn't blame God. He didn't claim God was "testing" him. Job knew that there was an adversary. "Oh that mine adversary had written a book".

God allowed Satan access to Job. Why, to allow the adversary to torment and try to destroy Job to test him? God forbid! Absurd.

"For the thing which I greatly feared is come upon me, and that which I WAS AFRAID OF is come unto me. [Therefore] I was not in safety, neither was I quiet; so trouble came."

What have we here? Job was worrying about his sons and daughters, and fearful. FEAR is the opposite of BELIEVING. It is faith or believing in reverse. Job recognized it was his fear, his lack of believing, that gave access to Satan.

"In all this, Job sinned not, NOR CHARGED GOD FOOLISHLY."

The fool blames God.

It's all about believing, patriot.

"That if thou confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and shalt BELIEVE in thine heart that God raised him from the dead, thou SHALT [ABSOLUTELY] BE SAVED.

For with the heart man BELIEVES unto righteousness… "

>>4061094

now the God's EYE has seen the

illumination that the light bringers

have left behind it looks like God's

EYE can't deny the truth anymore,

Lucifer speaks with a forked tongue

to the wise & unwise, I can now see

that God can learn to speak with

a forked tongue as well & the hands

wouldn't be able to understand the

understanding that God's EYE

awakens to,

>>4061264

what with the illumination the light bringers

left behind that God's EYE can follow the

bread crumbs to both find the bread & the

baker who have been putting leaven in the

meal,

>>4061054

1Corinth 14:5

"I would [gr:thelo - passionately desire] that ye ALL spake in tongues…"

Acts 10:44-46

"While Peter yet spake these words, holy spirit fell on all them which heard the word. And they of the circumcision which BELIEVED [already had previously received holy spirit] were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out THE GIFT OF HOLY SPIRIT."

What? How did they know that. Were doves descending or flames of fire present? No, no mention of that here. How'd they know they had received holy spirit?

"For they heard them speak with tongues……"

I didn't write the book.

Get behind me Satan

>>4024279

now that God is aware she

will clean it up,

the Philippines have a way

better education system

than people realize,

when the English speak to

Filipinos the language of the

English is very telling,

the English have a mouth

as wide as the Nile Delta,

this is the reason why God

with her EYE sees the

illumination left behind by

the tongues of Bullish

Englishmen,

if all the Bullish Englishmen

do is talk then God will hear

from heaven,

finally WWG1WGA,

>>4061403

Not only did you not write the book, you cannot apparently read, comprehend, or quote the book properly, either.

1 Corinthians 14:5

I wish you all spoke with tongues, but even more that you prophesied; for he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues, unless indeed he interprets, that the church may receive edification.

Tongues Must Be Interpreted

6 But now, brethren, if I come to you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you unless I speak to you either by revelation, by knowledge, by prophesying, or by teaching?

You can keep gibbering in unintelligible languages, pretending that you have apostolic gifts, and maybe you will fool someone as unwise as yourself into thinking you are saved.

You will never convince God of that, nor is anyone who calls a born again Christian "satan" a wise man.

>>4061569

>Tongues Must Be Interpreted

here is a cue,

both the devil & God can speak through

both believing & non believing Christians,

if for decades the devil has been giving cues

through non believing Christians then one

day God speaks through those non believing

Christians then people will take it for granted

that the devil is still speaking,

this is a cue that non believing Christians

will not be able to discern, obviously non

believing Christians have been bringing too

much light to illuminate the path they have

taken, the EYE of God will have seen the

light,

>>4061569

"Apostolic gifts"? You do err.

"Now concerning spiritual [matters] (pnuematicos- spiritual things; gifts is in italics in KJV. Added by translators. Has no authority) brethren, I would not have you ignorant. '

But, THE MANIFESTATION [gr: phanerosis] OF THE SPIRIT is given to EVERY man to profit withal."

The manifestations that are profitable then are listed:

Speaking in Tongues

Interpretation of tongues

Word of Prophecy

Word of Wisdom

Word of Knowledge

Discerning of spirits

Believing

Gifts of Healings

Working of miracles

Manifestation of holy spirit .

Died with the Apostles? Don't think so. "God is no respecter of persons", born-again one.

How is it that you know that you are born again? God made it available to know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that one has received eternal life. That one is truly a son of God. God's "cult".

>>4061894

>How is it that you know that you are born again? God made it available to know,

That’s right. The apostle John said, “These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life (1 Jn 5:12–13).”

>>4061976

"If we receive the witness of men, the witness if God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son".

The witness of or from God is the manifestation of speaking in tongues. This is far greater than the witness of men or self. It is irrefutable.

"He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself…."

That is, speaking in tongues and the energizing of holy spirit in it's manifestation.

"…he that believeth not God hath made Him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son."

"And this is the record, that God hath given us eternal life… "

>>4061894

No, friend, I do not, as they were given to the apostles. There is a vast gulf between the Holy Spirit giving a man the gift to talk to a foreigner, and the gibberish that cults do to assure themselves that they are saved.

You are the latter, and cannot understand how the knowledge of being born again is actually gained, and actually held, and actually expressed. It is not by uttering gibberish in an unruly, confused, and out of control "Corinthian" church.

>>4062148

>The witness of or from God is the manifestation of speaking in tongues.

No, no it is not. Anyone can go into a fake trance and utter garbage that nobody can understand. It's actually a good trick by the devil to "convince" people that they are saved.

>>4062162

Paul addressed the chaos in the Corinthian Church.

Everyone was speaking in tongues at the same time when the church gathered. And rightly, one wandering in to such a scene would say: WTF?

Let things be done decent and in order.

One or two may speak in tongues in the gathering given that they are spiritually mature to also bring forth the interpretation. Paul encourages growing spiritually by speaking in tongues much in one's own personal prayer life. This is so that the believer might grow spiritually to bring forth a word of prophecy in a gathering. Tongues are a sign to the unbelievers. A sign to wake them to truth.

There is no profit for members of the church to hear another speak in tongues for they understand not what is spoken. The profit then, is the interpretation, the message from God in the language of those present. It is all energized by God.

Done decent and order it is a beautiful exhortation from God and quite profitable.

I suppose you envision folks flopping around and taking up snakes and all that sort of foolishness. Perhaps that goes on. Satan works to conceal the power of God available to the believer. He's done a good job with you it seems as you are firmly set in error regarding the matter.

Speaking in tongues is manifesting holy spirit. It is a tongue of men or angels. Cornelius and his household spoke in tongues. What, were they supposed to convince those Jews present, already born again, of something they didn't already know? Awake to righteousness….

>>4063088

>Perhaps that goes on.

Perhaps? The other Anon is counting on it for "proof" of his salvation. Millions of people every month meet in charasmatic churches that lack sound doctrine, doing all sorts of foolish things to "prove" that they have the Holy Spirit.

People face Jesus, and say "did we not cast out demons in your name? did we not heal the sick in your name?" and Jesus says "Depart from me, ye workers of iniquity; I DO NOT KNOW YOU.".

So tell me, which is the "greater work"? Speaking gibberish in a charasmatic church that lacks sound doctrine, or actually casting out demons, or actually healing people?

If you cared what Paul actually said about praying in tongues, you'd note that he said only do it in private, only in your prayer closet, and speak of it to no body.

That's the proper use of the gift of tongues, outside of being supernaturally and temporarily gifted by the Holy Spirit to speak in a foreign tongue to a foreigner to tell him the gospel.

Which I have never seen, nor heard of, ever happening in an emotionally charged, doctrine-less charasmatic gibberish session.

Remember one of the signs of the end times? Delusion? This is one of those delusions. Remember other signs? People avoiding sound doctrine, gathering to themselves teachers who will tickle their ears? This is also happening itt.

>>4063174

Not sure what the charismatic churches are doing. I don't attend such. Nor do I follow false teachers.

"The works that I do, GREATER works than these shall ye do, because I go to the Father."

The works of Christ include manifesting the following:

Word of Knowledge

Word of Wisdom

Discerning of spirits

Believing

Gifts of healing

Miracles

These are all manifestations of the holy spirit. Which was upon Christ (it descended on him like a dove, remember?). This same holy spirit was upon many of the prophets also. Evidenced by their miracles performed among other actions. You simply cannot fully understand or perceive the depth of the Word without recognizing the operation and manifestation of holy spirit.

We are to do GREATER works than Christ. Not the SAME EQUAL works, but GREATER works.

Holy spirit within, the gift of eternal life, the down payment of future glory, is the greater works accomplished by God. This is manifested in speaking in tongues as evidence to the believer of his eternal standing. That's pretty GREAT.

"WE" don't do shit, friend. It is the power of God working within us to will and to do of His good pleasure that accomplishes healings, casting out devils, miracles. And it is according to His will and our believing to do His will. Word of Wisdom. Word of Knowledge.

>>4063436

Or, you could take Jesus' word for it, that the "works of God" are to believe in the One whom He has sent. Yeah, maybe that. I'll stick with what Jesus said, and you can do whatever your heart convinces you is correct.

Like babbling incoherently.

>>4060512

Don't forget God forgives murderers if they go back to him and seek him with their heart. You aren't the judge. We should be concerned with making it through the narrow gate first and get our own house in order.

>>4061171

You should actually read the book of Job, before running your mouth. My guess is your just a stupid shill who hates God anyway.

That's what's most annoying here on this so-called "Biblefag" thread.

Everyone pushes their own way.

No one reads God's way and of course you bring in all kinds of matters and thoughts that are not God's.

No wonder he said the whole world will be deceived. Job wasn't.

>>4062174

The most realistic observation on mankind today and the make believe bickering snotty arrogant believers:

They are giant hypocritical fakes.

They listen to worthless teachers

And they pedal worthless gibberish.

Good observation.

>>4063683

Reading it and understanding it are two different things my Babylonian religion following friend. Jesus is not God.

>>4064126

Be sure to tell that to him that.

I hope I get to watch from across the lot.

And to be sure, I am not your Babylonian friend, and never will be.

Understand? We have nothing in common.

there was a local pastor who

would frequent the strip clubs,

people used to talk about it

so to prove a point he got

an apartment above the strip

club & drove the strippers

around in his mini van,

I guess people never should

have made him play his hand,

>>4064444

You miss the point. You follow Babylonian religion. All men's religions are founded in it.

And you are correct, we have nothing in common in matters pertaining to the Father.

>>4065090

Not so. Lose your religion. God is not a religion and he told me not to set foot in a church (over 10 years ago when I discovered they lied about and ignore the 4th Commandment) because they are all corrupt. All of them. So don't know how you get off on telling me that bullshit.

Further, God hates religion. He refers to it as lip service for a reason. That's why you should flee the churches, get out of Babylonian. So don't know why you're wagging your finger at me.

======

Mark 7:7

These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far away from me. Their worship of me is useless, because they teach man made rules as if they were doctrines.

==

That explains their I know everything arrogant attitudes and finger pointing.

>>4065090

Maybe you missed the point, but maybe we shouldn't argue. But don't put words in my mouth. I said we have nothing in common.

Go back to YouTube, your books or wherever you feed you vast intelligence.

Oh My… Look what this board has turned into. I spent a lot of time of bread 1, and now it is disgusting…. jam it down your throat posting.

Whether you are a bible fag or an Unleaven bread, there should be a sense of comradary here…. a lifting up of your brother… not this hateful bickering.

Personally, I am unleaven, but I respect my biblefags. If I wanted to enlighten them, I would do it with kindness and thought provoking posts, not insults.

Is this all the work of shills?

>>4057261

Every jot and tittle of God's Word is for and in behalf of man and simultaneously against devils.

The observation that was put in play is that scripture doesn't see "man" as a stand alone entity/indivual. Scripture sees TWO PARTIES when it addresses man. See Mark 4:15.

Does the law stand? Of course. For what reasons?

The arousing and empowering of sin:

1 Corinthians 15:56

The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

What happens where the Word is sown? Satan enters the heart to steal and resist God's Word including Words of LAW.

Romans 3:20

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Paul writes extensively in Romans 7 about his internal engagement with a single law, "do not lust." And discovered indwelling sin which he termed "no longer I" twice in Romans 7:17 & 20, caused every manner of concupiscence in his mind. Romans 7:7-13.

We also know from Jesus that evil thoughts defile us, and those those are "against the law" thoughts:

Matthew 15:

18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.

19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

Mark 7:

20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.

21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,

22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:

23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

The above are not "optional." They happen as a fact via exposure to the law and indwelling sin's resisting actions in the MIND and HEART. This PROVES our internals are defiled and that evil is present with us just as it was for Paul. Romans 7:21

So does your "evil present" and "indwelling sin" follow the LAW?

Sorry, never happened, never will.

We also know from Paul that the law is for sinners:

1 Timothy 1:

9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

Is the devil a sinner? Yep!

1 John 3:8

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Do the math. It ain't hard to see, unless of course the chief thief is telling you otherwise, internally.

The law stands PRECISELY to judge and condemn the devils. Every last one of them.

The law also stands to cause sin to become utterly sinful.

Romans 7:

13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

And "utterly sinful" is openly evidenced in the "church members" themselves. Why? Because they let themselves off the hook for their sins as common hypocrites always do, AND they claim to "love their neighbors" as themselves while simultaneously and in reality, in their heart, condemn other sinners to burn alive in hell forever. They could not get any FURTHER AWAY from the Law's requirement.

The reality is they were ALL, to the man, overtaken by Satan/devils internally, and do the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Law's requirements, which Paul isolates and simplifies regarding comprehending "any commandment" in Romans 13:8-10, "love your neighbor as yourself."

And it's even more hilarious when believers take up the bulk of their time trying to tell other believers they are wrong so they can condemn them to hell in their hearts while they openly justify their own sinning hides/minds.

It's a very sad and pathetic thing to observe.

>>4056900

I believe my post correctly predicted that people would claim that tempt is not tempt, which I of course reject on the basis that tempt does mean tempt and that MAN, such as Abraham, was NOT ALONE in his own heart, because Mark 4:15 IS AN INTERNAL REALITY.

Genesis 22:1

And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am.

A similar collusion is made when people claim God is not the Author of confusion. However, God DID CONFUSE the language of the people at the tower of BABEL, didn't HE?

When we see the internal reality of Mark 4:15 for ourselves, we THEN see that God is not dealing with "just man" when dealing with "man."

Mark 4:15

And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Was the Word sown with Abraham? YEP! Did Mark 4:15 happen to Abraham? You bet your bottom dollar it did or JESUS was a liar.

So was Abraham just Abraham? NOPE!

Now, who did God TEMPT?

Now, who did God CONFUSE?

Do the math. It's not that hard, unless we don't believe what Jesus said in Mark 4:15 is really TRUE. And there are plenty of UNbelieving believers on that particular count.

Yet we know "every Word" of God applies to MAN. Every Word. Not just "the good ones" that we happen to like personally. Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4.

Get all the parties of scripture, man and devils bound together, and scripture goes down the gullet a LOT easier. And guess what? Once anyone sees it they'll understand INSTANTLY how they can both love their neighbors as themselves, ALL OF THEM, and simultaneously abide in sound and proper judgment against SIN, EVIL AND THE DEVILS in MAN. They are not the same parties, but they are standing in the same shoes we all wear.

Romans 16:20

And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

Not under some other guy's feet. YOURS.

>>4066594

Did you "predict" God correcting you on your false teaching you're cramming down people's throats telling you you're delusional?

Why do you try so hard to change his precepts that give us knowledge, to what you say? False teacher.

You are not a replacement for God.

=

God says it in the Word in the context of His precepts like this:

===

THE EVIL ONE

John 5:19

We know that we are from God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the Evil One.

RE: TEMPTATION

James1:13-16

No one being tempted should say,

"I am being tempted by God."

For God cannot be tempted by evil,

and God himself tempts no one.

Rather each person is being tempted whenever he is dragged off and enticed by the bait of his own desire.

Then having conceived, the desire gives birth to sin, and when sin is fully grown, it gives birth to death.

Don't delude yourselves, my dear brothers.

THE LORD'S PRAYED

Matthew 6:9-13

You, therefore, pray like this:

"Our Father in heaven!

May your Name be kept holy.

May your Kingdom come,

your will be done on earth as in heaven.

Give us the food we need today,

Forgive us for what we have done wrong, as we too have forgiven those who have wronged us.

And do not lead us into hard testing, but keep us safe from the Evil One,

*For kingship, power and glory are yours forever.

Amen."

>>4065943

yep. def shills. this bickering is not organic.

>>4066594

Abraham was not tempted.

He stood firm trusting in God.

He never waivered.

God tested him.

He tested him many times.

Abraham obeyed God.

His trust was counted as righteousness. Evil was not involved in any form during this test, and God provided the ram for the sacrifice.

Why do you add so much to what God says? You become under a curse for that. Why don't you research that? Adding and substracting from God's Word. That would be more benficicial than lecturing and calling people names, don't you think?

>>4067683

My guess is 95% shill baiter haters and 4-5%, if that, sincere folk. Contempt shills. Enter at your own risk. There's a lot of pete and repeat, and any subject matter whatsoever is attacked in the most unreasonable and illogical way, on then it's on and on.

They like to post outrageous claims, flanked by scripture that isn't applicable, and proceed to shove it down your throat.

At least that's my observation.

All the Biblefag threads have this problem. Go figure.

Shill tactics are being monitored here.

>>4067898

astute observations. I agree. It’s interesting how the shills even deem this thread as a threat. They’re desperate to divide. I’m enjoying the show tho…

>>4067683

But as you know, you are one of the biggest throat crammers on her. So funny you call anyone exposing you a shill.

That's really funny.

>>4067961

>biggest throat crammers on her

yes, I enjoy getting head by females. another astute observation.

>>4067953

I don't think it's a threat. After all it's basically annialated. Though, if you have the energy to read it, you could find a few things useful.

Notice the jabs at Q and Potus, and the jewish topic. Dem hate attack op? I think it's political, and then they just fuck with God and believers to rile them up. Because you can tell they don't really know the scriptures, but they're really good at streaming them down your throat.

The boards changed since spring/summer they don't have that many places to shit post anymore.

Lucky us.

>>4068037

Oh yes. I can understand that coming from you. It fits your character well.

>>4068037

Although I might have actually confused you with an asshole op on here.

If so, I apologize for that.

There's so many.

>Every C_A/MOS tactic of infiltration and internal disruption is being deployed on this board (central hub).

>The World is Here.

>Recognize.

>This movement is bigger than anyone can possibly imagine.

>Peace through strength.

>Q

>They want you DIVIDED.

>DIVIDED by RACE.

>DIVIDED by RELIGION.

>DIVIDED by CULTURE.

>DIVIDED by CLASS.

>DIVIDED by POLITICAL AFFILIATION.

>DIVIDED YOU ARE WEAK.

>TOGETHER YOU ARE STRONG.

>WE, THE PEOPLE.

>WWG1WGA!

>Q

POTUS TWEET:

>Melania and I wish all Jewish people Shana Tova and send our warmest greetings to those celebrating Rosh Hashanah and the start of the High Holy Days…

>>4068319

Since the midterms muh jew shills work in overtime and attack nearly every bread.

For reference, look up older breads, where the word jew shows maybe 5 times, not 150 times….like now…

There is no 'the jews'.

There are only single persons.

8 million jews live in israel.

You can't possibly think all are cabal members.

I am sure that many many of the upper part of society are cabal. (Like worldwide!)

And I am aware that many cabal members are jews.

However, there are also many non jewish bad actors. Many, worldwide.

Simplified 'oh fuck, its all the jews' is just not based on any facts and just not true.

It does two things:

1 - it hides the non jewish cabal members (folks from thinktanks, politicians, actors, MSM folks worldwide, …)

2 - it gives the Q movement and especially this board the look of a bunch of non-autists that are not digging for facts, but pushing their simple and obviously wrong opinions.

You must have realized that one of the MSM weapons is to blame POTUS and all his followers as nazis.

Imo the ones pushing non fact based info, by copy pasta in every bread, are 95% shills.

Anons are not that stupid and not that blind for facts.

Only shills have an interest to hide some actors and blame innocent ones.

Is hussein a bad guy? Is he moslem, from kenya?

Is jared kushner a good guy? Is he a jew and right now destroying cabal?

It is not as simple as shills would like it to be.

Think for yourself.

>>4067754

I read the KJV. KJV says God TEMPTS. What you're not picking up at all is WHO is being engaged that was with/in/upon Abraham that was not Abraham. And for that I point again to Mark 4:15. So figure it out. Unfortunately the reality of Mark 4:15 doesn't allow you to "get it."

In any case, even if you feel the need to "protect" your version of God and provide Him excuses, He TOTALLY ALLOWS temptations and the tempter(s) to exist and do so. God not implicated in that you claim?

LOL God IS Implicated in everything that exists. Even your utter failure to perceive the fact.

Hebrews 1:3

Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

Upholding ALL THINGS…no exceptions…including TEMPTATIONS.

Might as well toss you another knot for your brain:

Job 2:10

But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil?

In all this did not Job sin with his lips.

>>4067603

We know that the whole world LIES in the power of the evil one…

But you are obviously the exception, or under bald faced control of a liar that is not you.

Romans 7:21

I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

I'm thankful for a few believers, such as Paul, that were Divinely enabled to tell the truth.

>>4068507

Then why don't you listen to Sha'ul?

And why don't you listen to Yeshua?

And why don't you listen to God?

>>4068319

>>This movement is bigger than anyone can possibly imagine.

this is true, as much as the world keeps getting

smaller some how it keeps getting bigger,

the bread keeps rising till it's done,

>>4068953

Namefag = famefag…

>>4068507

You leave out the guts of what Paul says. Here's a fuller picture, but still, you can't really get to the depths of what he says with you. You cherry pick him and leave most of his stuff out. Which is why I think you don't know what you're talking about. You don't keep precepts intact.

Paul is trying to teach human behavior and that Yeshua frees us from sin's "torah" while emphasizing God's "Torah."

He makes a distinction. You only seem to recognize one, the bad perverted one. Look at the Genesis verse. Remember, Messianic Hebrews was written for Hebrews who accepted the Lord and who were taught the Torah from an early age. Yeshua, freed them from the body bound for death.

Romans 7:20-23

(with the Hebrew meaning)

But if I am doing what "the real me" doesn't want, it is no longer "the real me" doing it but the sin housed inside of me. So I find it to be the rule, a kind of perverse "torah," and although I want to do what is good, evil is right there with me! For in my inner self, I completely agree with God's Torah; but in my various parts, I see a different "torah," one that battles with the Torah in my mind and makes me a prisoner of sin's "torah," which is operating in my various parts.

One of God's first teaching to us about sin right before Kayin murdered Hevel in Genesis. Sin still operates the same for us. But we can rule over it.

Genesis 4:7-8

If you are doing what is good, shouldn't you hold your head high? And if you don't do what is good, sin is crouching at the door — it wants you, but you can rule over it.

As given to us the right by our Heavenly Father , as believers that have faith, we have authority over Satan…Secret reveiled! You, as a faithful believer, have control over the evil in your world. You have authority by the name of the Lord Jesus Christ to exclude evil from your reality. Have faith in the ultimate authority…Jesus Christ!

>>4066594

Genesis 22:1

After these things, God tested Avraham. He said to him, "Avraham!" and he answered, "Here I am."

Job 23:10

Yet he knows the way I take;

when he has tested me,

I will come out as gold.

My feet have stayed in his footsteps; I keep to his way without turning aside. I don't withdraw from his lips command; I treasure his words more than my daily food.

Since Yeshua had no sin,

he couldn't be tempted

Messianic Hebrews 2:18

For since he himself suffered death when he was put to the test, he is able to help those who are being tested now.

Messianic Hebrews 3:7-11

Therefore, as the Ruach HaKodesh says,

"Today, if you hear God's voice,

don't harden your heart, as you

did in the Bitter Quarrel on the

day in the Wilderness when you

put God to the test; they

challenged me, and they saw

my work for 40 years!

>>4069516

Satan sinned when he deceived man, thus Jesus demoted him below man. Yes, below man. That means by authority of the Lord Jesus Christ, man is more powerful than Satan. Denounce satan in your life as a follower of Jesus Christ. You have the power as a follower to rid your life of Satan's presence. Hallelujah! Amem! Share.

>>4069516

So so true:))

Covered in the Blood of Christ

Kick them out

They have no power!

What is the big decision that we have to make, as per Q? My thought is that, according to biblical prophesy, is the belief in our Heavenly Father and Jesus, our King, Christ Lord. Fake religions are very prevalent (Mormon, Islam, Buddhism, Hindu). A reckoning is upon us. The wheat is being separated from the chaf. Amen. Love all of you (no homo) regardless.

>>4069036

You: Paul is trying to teach human behavior

Yeah, well, you see, that's what devils do. They blame and accuse our fellow man.

And for what it's worth, I ain't buying your "hebrew meaning" because it's not accurate.

There is no question that sin is of the devil. 1 John 3:8

There is no question that Satan enters the heart to steal. Mark 4:15

There is no question that Satan blinds minds to the Gospel. 2 Cor. 4:4, Eph. 2:2

Paul did NOT say the "real me" that is not the "real me." You'd have to stretch Hebrew beyond distinction to get to where you landed. Unfortunately that's what a lot of translations do. They eliminate Satan from the equations.

Gee, wonder why?

>>4069703

We have set before us life and death—

Choose Life!!

dark to Light

Knock. The door will open.

>>4069612

I wonder how Paul managed to get himself into this claim?

1 Timothy 1:15

This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

"I am" not "I was" or "I used to be."

I prefer honest discourses, not lies, hypocrisy and coverups for sin which is of the devil. Do you think Paul figured out his sin was of the devil? I'd expect that was the case.

2 Corinthians 12:7

And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

I know it sticks in craw of religious people to truthfully claim they have sin, are sinners and their own sin via evil thoughts are DEMONICALLY SOURCED. But that IS the scriptural case, like it or not.

And why anyone would get all butt hurt over it when it's "no longer I" or "no longer you" is odd as well.

The devil ain't gonna stop sinning for anyone and the devils sins transpire IN MAN.

>>4069726

I don't give a crap what you buy.

Everyone knows you're a shill fraud who doesn't know the scriptures, but you know how to cut and paste and shitpost.

>>4069737

Deuteronomy 30:15

See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;

Nah, God really didn't do that, did He? Yep!

>>4069768

Whether people like the scriptures or not, they are there to be read for what they say. Not what we want to make believe they say.

>>4068592

I suppose I have to say Jesus' name as you demand, in some twist of Hebrew, to be really saved tho, right?

>>4069775

The scriptures are word for word from a Bible. Not some watered down translation that strips God's meaning and lays it barren in a worthless pile of unrecognizable shit. Not my fault you read crap pie. Try a version that doesn't contradict God.

If it contradicts God precepts and teachings, it's not God's word.

You could know that, but either you are just some jerk off shill or you by choice, don't care or are too lazy to find out. Whose problem is it?

>>4069791

You answered my question.

Shill. Qs right. You people are stupid.

Demand. Lol. That's really funny.

Who you working for?

Are you in your mom's basement, or did they give you a cubicle?

Do you get paid by the hour, or by the shitpost?

>>4069923

yep, mine is adamantium,

at this point it's obvious that the blood of Christ

saved the show, the devil just doesn't know it yet,

like Noah's flood Christ has washed the earth,

once the devil got a taste of the blood then both

publicans & harlots are going to heaven,

for some reason I think mom already tasted how

sweet Jesus blood is, maybe it's cuz I can tell the

scent of a woman,

>>4069974

Mark 4:15 applies to David H. Stern as well. And, if he doesn't get that critical picture, he doesn't get an accurate translation.

But hey, if it makes you feel better, wth.

>>4069905

Well, let's see, I believe ALL PEOPLE are saved. Including you as a child of God.

And, I believe all devils go to hell.

That makes me "man bad," huh?

LOL

Where Jesus led me to take my stand is closer to WWG1WGA than most of you will ever have the pleasure to savor.

>>4063683

>Don't forget God forgives murderers if they go back to him and seek him with their heart.

If they repent (Acts 2:37, 38).

>You aren't the judge.

We judge rightly (Pr 31:9).

See:

Judge Rightly Is Not Some Guy's Name http://kgov.com/should-christians-judge

>…and get our own house in order.

Don’t be a hypocrite (Ro 12:9-13). Judge with righteous judgment (Jn 7:27).

>>4066381

>[Christians] condemn other sinners to burn alive in hell forever.

Hell exists (Rev. 21:8). Repent or you’re going there (Acts 2:37, 38).

>…tell other believers they are wrong so they can condemn them to hell…

We don’t send anyone to hell. You send yourself there. Why? People loved

darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. (Jn 3:19).

>…while they openly justify their own sinning hides/minds.

Christians have been convicted of their sin. They have repented (Acts 2:37, 38).

>It's a very sad and pathetic thing to observe.

You are unable to observe their minds. He purifies the believer (1 Jn 1:9).

>>4071479

That is new age nonsense shill.

Corrupt lawlessness in your head.

God's children are written in the Book of Life since before the earth was created. When the Books are opened, some are not there.

There is wheat and tares.

There will be a harvest.

A gathering, a separating of

who is saved and

who isn't.

This gathering, this Awakening, now, is for our generation, is a harvest.

So, according to God,

you are found a liar.

But you already know that.

You know who you work for, and what you sow right here as you cater to the lost because you are one of them.

You are a shill like almost everyone else on here.

God's Word speaks for itself, you speak for the Adversary, our enemy,

shillfag baby eaterr satanists.

All your words and deeds are recorded in heaven. You cannot escape.

Repent is only an option to those who turn back to God with all their heart.

Halfass repent and recital of words that don't mean anything to you, while you follow the world, are worthless bs to God.

>>4071479

And for sure some are not their who claim to be God's children.

God knows hearts. That's why Jesus says not all who say Lord Lord will enter the Kingdom v of Heaven.

Deception is everywhere

And Satan poses as a bringer of light.

Whose light? Not God's.

Like Q says

know who you follow.

The one wonderful thing about shills and Satanic God haters:

They think, (because of their own pride), that they are bringing about Satan's rule, but really, it is God that is using them to bring about his own perfect plan.

So, I guess we should thank you Satan shills for helping.

Q is right again.

These people are stupid.

God wins.

Dark to light.

Si, if your sitting on the bridge not knowing which way to go, don't stay there until it's too late.

>>4068450

>…He [God] TOTALLY ALLOWS temptations and the tempter(s) to exist and do so.

“…James makes it very clear that God never tests men with evil and with sin. “Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God”—a more literal translation is this: “Let not one man being tempted say, I am tempted of God.” Notice that James is no longer using the noun temptation as he was previously. He is now using the verb; he is speaking of the action.

The natural propensity of mankind is to blame God for his own fumbles, all of his foibles, all of his faults and failures and filth.” McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible commentary: The Epistles (James) (electronic ed., Vol. 53, p. 27). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

>Might as well toss you another knot for your brain: Job 2:10

“…Following the first wave of tragedy (1:20–22): Job is deeply grieved, but he recognizes that he has come into the world with nothing and will leave with nothing. Mindful of this, he chooses to praise God and not blame him.” Willmington, H. L. (1999). The Outline Bible (Job 1:20–22). Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House Publishers.

>>4068507

>We know that the whole world LIES in the power of the evil one…

But you are obviously the exception…

Christians are the exception. We have received the spirit of truth (John 14:17).

>I'm thankful for a few believers, such as Paul, that were Divinely enabled to tell the truth.

You haven’t been thankful for a Christian since Paul? 1 Jn 3:14

>>4071479

>I believe ALL PEOPLE are saved.

Believe the lie (Ge 3:4).

>>4072288

>God's children are written in the Book of Life since before the earth was created.

How could you name be included in book when you do not exist yet? Are you a Greek pagan trekie.

See:

Is the Future Settled or Open? Dr. Lamerson vs. Enyart http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?21711-Openness-Theology-Does-God-Know-Your-Entire-Future-Battle-Royale-X

>>4068450

>>4072554

>>4072744

Just throwing out a big thank you and I Love you to all you shills whose only talent is to shitpost for God!!!

Thanks for making the difference between God's truth and Satanic lies so clear and obvious.

Have a really good day.

We see your tactics.

Not too smart, but

Thanks for being so stupid.

On Trump's watch. Trust God's plan.

[Border Crisis Being Readied to Morph into UN-Controlled Medical Martial Law]( https://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/border-crisis-being-readied-to-morph-into-un-controlled-medical-martial-law/)

On Trump's watch. Trust God's plan.

[Heavily Armed Central American Paramilitary Troops Crossing the US Border In Remote Locations-Russian False Flag Is Looming]( https://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/heavily-armed-central-american-paramilitary-troops-crossing-the-us-border-in-remote-locations-russian-false-flag-is-looming/)

>>4071479

I'm a little confused on why you think your personal opinion on who is saved, which is apparently everyone, matters.

>>4072744

No thanks. But by all means, you go ahead and load your brain up on YouTube knowledge. I can see how it's benefitted you so much.

Do you have any brain neurons of your own left firing… ?

Thanks again for your wonderful example of how to be brainless. It helps us identify dead spots on the Son.

>>4077652

>[Open theism] No thanks. But by all means, you go ahead and load your brain up on YouTube knowledge.

The author does not have a YouTube channel (Eph 4:14).

>>4078094

Whatever he slides, and how, is inconsequential.

Why conflate Ephesians 4:14?

Ephesians 4:14- is why we shouldn't listen to myth makers, not a reason to do so.

>>4078094

And don't put words in my mouth to start arguments. You said see, and posted a source. I said no thanks.

That's no thanks on whatever you're pushing irregardless of the medium it is marketed in. It's a myth market. There's thousands of myths out there.

>>4075121

I avoid personal opinions in favor of scriptural presentations, particularly if they violate the command to love our neighbors as ourselves.

John 4:42

And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

1 John 4:14

And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.

1 Timothy 4:10

For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

>>4072815

I experienced long ago that uphold God in Christ as the actual Saviour of all mankind drives devils in believers CRAZY, and it's quite entertaining and fascinating to observe the hatred pour out of them.

>>4072711

We certainly can't be having a Saviour of the world who actually succeeds now can we? lol

>>4072361

You: God knows hearts. That's why Jesus says not all who say Lord Lord will enter the Kingdom v of Heaven. /

IF we were to stand Paul before Jesus which one of the parties below might you think that will apply to? Bolded for the slow of mind.

2 Corinthians 12:

7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

If you see only Paul you guessed wrong.

>>4072288

You: There is wheat and tares.

2 Corinthians 12:7 King James Version (KJV)

7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

Hmmm? I wonder which one of the two parties above was the TARE? Hmmm? Such a mystery in plain and open sight.

Matthew 13:38

The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

Hmmm? I wonder which one of the two parties in 2 Cor. 12:7 is the child of the wicked one? Hmmm?

Most blind religious people only see people when the obvious culprits couldn't be any clearer.

Hmmm? Wonder why?

This is such fun.

>>4079369

>>4079411

Again, thank you for shitposting "I'm stuck on myself" comments that don't answer any questions except "I'm stuck on myself" and am only here to shitpost.

=circle jerk fag post #666

PS. Your use of "Hmm" is also genius.

Bumping you up to two stars.

You're my favorite now.

>>4079303

And your tactic of shitposting "scriptural presentations" (by the thousands) (even bolded for the "slow of mind") that present in biblical contradiction and "I am stuck on myself" all in a one shot format, are priceless.

You should patent that and

insist on a raise.

>>4080128

Obviously we are not reading from the same document.

>>4079303

>>4079369

>>4079411

>>4080977

Au contraire (again) 227f8c.

True to form.

>>4081266

I never expect people to be able to see what is there in the scriptures to see, even though entirely obvious. It's quite natural:

Matthew 13:14

And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

The reason people don't see and perceive is shown, openly, in Mark 4:15, which means they are being "actively" stolen from.

What is being stolen from them? The fact that Satan steals Word from THEM, within.

It's real. But if you don't see or perceive it, you only confirm the fact to those who acknowledge it does happen in and to them.

Mark 4:15 King James Version (KJV)

15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

EVERYONE who says in their heart, NO, that does not happen to ME is hearing the voice of SATAN in them, speaking that lie, and they have been stolen from, because they DON'T BELIEVE it.

>>4068103

>Notice the jabs at Q and Potus…

Trump never was fit to lead. He should be removed (Ps 12:8).

>>4084722

Yeah right as WE the people elected him and he leads and leads and leads us to a better place than we've ever been in over a hundred years.

The swamp Hollywood sexual perverts paedophiles child eaters and satanists do not like that for a very good reason.

Cry more.

We don't care.

No longer human sacrificial material.

WWG1WGA

>>4084795

>Yeah right as WE the people elected him…

He’s a reflection of us (Pr 8:36, Ex 20:14). When did God nail do not murder, do not commit adultery to the cross? Mal 4:4-6, Mt 24:14 He’s lawless (Matt. 13:41). He isn’t fit to run a lemonade stand—much less a country.

>…and he leads and leads and leads us to a better place…

You believe America is headed for: rainbows, unicorns and lollipops. I do not. Ps 9:19-20

“I prefer clarity to agreement.” ~ Dennis Prager

>…The swamp Hollywood sexual perverts paedophiles child eaters and satanists do not like that for a very good reason.

Trump is swamp creature-in-chief (Pr 8:36, Ex 20:14).

On Trump's watch. Trust God's plan. [More Than 70,000 Americans Died Of Drug Overdoses In 2017. That’s A New Record]( https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/29/drug-overdose-deaths-2017-record/)

On Trump’s watch. Trust God’s plan.

[Vid: Drag Queen Admits To ‘Grooming’ Children At Library ‘Story Hour’ Events]( https://www.dailywire.com/news/38818/watch-drag-queen-admits-grooming-children-library-amanda-prestigiacomo?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=051717-news&utm_campaign=dwtwitter)

The wickedness of Sodom ([Ex 20:14] heterosexual [Lev. 20:10–12] or homosexual [Lev. 20:10,13]) was notorious (Gen. 13:13).

On Trump's watch. Trust God's plan. [Google Employees Debated Burying Conservative Media In Search]( https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/29/google-censorship-conservative-media/)

>>4084824

Nope. Wrong. Still roaming free. Nobody getting locked up.

>>4068103

Good, you enjoy the show. It's not a dem op. It's real patriots calling out Q for the fake faggot he/they are & POTUS for selling out and folding. He chose the swamp that surrounds him, so he's fucking w/all of America. We are pissed. No arrests. No HRC videos. No PAIN. No BOOM. No JUSTICE. No exposing of fraud. "THE PLAN" is lame or just plain fake. The list is long…only hype and weekly fuckery is what is delivered. The midterms were a farce. 2 years lost. It's horrific. These boards are SHIT-HOLE, filled with self-aggrandizing, swollen heads. So don't think too highly of yourself faggot.

>>4086466

Anger? Things not happening fast enough for you? sounds like a fit throwing baby, or shill trying to get people up in arms to turn against proud and Q for political reasons,

Which means you are a crying liberal shitposter, a shill, but not a patriot or QAnon.

We know how to stand the ground.

We see through your tactics.

You don't always get what you want the second you want it. Try dealing with that.

>>4088266

Potus, not proud was meant.

>>4079341

How then do you reconcile that with those not written in the Book of Life? Those resurrected, not found in the Book? The second death is their end.

>>4086466

No pain? Been seeing and hearing from them directly about their pain, ever since Potus got elected. Crying loudly in pain for 2 years now. You have to be blind not to see that, or a shill to claim nothing has happened.

Justice phase can start 1/1/2019.

Get some popcorn

And enjoy the show

>>4084935

All you Trump and Q hater shills are coming out of the woodwork.

Why don't you gtfo and go to a political forum? You are not honest about evil, or you wouldn't be supporting the enemy, and the paedophiles and the child eaters and the world wide swamp.

Reconcile that fake Anon shitposter liars.

>>4084935

You blab a lot but never include any sauce, because there is none.

Your pain is all that shows.

Drain it.

D5 and you can't do anything to stop it.

Your words are worthless,

just like your cause.

They will cease to exist.

>>4088294

Deut. 14:1, Psalm 82:6, Matt. 23:9, Acts 17:26-28, Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4, Acts 10:35, 1 John 4:7

Read them.

It's quite obvious that all of Israel's people, believers and unbelivers, are-were Gods children, as are all gentiles.

Most of traditional christianity at least got this much right.

>>4092312

There are two fathers. God, the father of his children, who hear his voice and obey him, and Satan, the father of lies, our Adversary, whose children follow him (to their destruction).

Your statement is biblically incorrect.

It is a false teaching, but you already know that, don't you? Shitposter.

Yeshua speaks

John Chapter 8:39-47

…Satan — inventor of the lie…murderer

Whoever belongs to God listens to what God says; the reason you don't listen is that you don't belong to God.

>>4092780

The only things I'll expect from you is damning other people to burn alive in hell forever while justifying your own sorry hide, just as any common hypocrite does under the influences of evil present with them.

Matthew 23:15

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

>>4093053

Why spread lies and work so hard to change God's Word?

Your argument is with God. I just pointed out what a liar you are.

John 8:43

(Jesus speaking)

Why don't you understand what I'm saying? Because you can't bear to listen to my message. You belong to your father, Satan, and you want to carry out your father's desires. From the start he was a murderer, and he has never stood by the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he is speaking in character; because he is a liar— indeed, the inventer of the lie! But as for me, because I tell the truth you don't believe me. Which one of you can show me where I'm wrong? If I'm telling the truth why don't you believe me? Whoever listens to God listens to what God says; the reason you don't listen is that you don't belong to God.

>>4093053

>>4092312

>>4071479

Jesus Speaking

John 3-33-36

"… Whoever does accept what he says puts his seal on the fact that God is true, because of the one whom God sent speaks GOD'S words. For God does not give him the Spirit in limited degree—

The Father liveslthe Son and has put everything in his hands. Whoever trusts in the Son has eternal life. But whoever disobeys the Son will not see that life but remains subject to God's wrath."

>>4093053

Jesus Speaking

John 7:7

"… The world can't hate you, but it does hate me, because I keep telling it how wicked it's ways are."

Acts 4:26

The disciples discussing the prophecy in Psalms 2:1-2 after they had been ordered not to speak or teach in the name of Yeshua.

'Why did the nations rage

and the peoples devise useless plans?

The kings of the earth took their stand;

and the rulers assembled together

against Adonai

and against his Messiah.

"This has come true in this city, since Herod and Pontius Pilate, with Goyim and the peoples of Isra'el, all assembled against your holy servant Yeshua, whom you made Messiah, to do what your power and plan had already determined beforehand should happen.

Now George H W Bush knows he's not God (Matt. 25:46).

>>4088266

>Anger?

Be angry and do not sin (Eph 4:26). Hate evil. Hold on to what is good (Ro 12:9).

>…We know how to stand the ground.

On sand (Mt 7:26).

>>4088294

>How then do you reconcile that with those not written in the Book of Life?

Get in the book (Acts 2:37, 38).

See:

Is the Future Settled or Open? Dr. Lamerson vs. Enyart http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?21711-Openness-Theology-Does-God-Know-Your-Entire-Future-Battle-Royale-X

>>4100616

More advertisement for human in business not God.

You push his myths hard.

Worthless click bait "product"

for the gullible.

>>4088419

>…Why don't you gtfo and go to a political forum?

You must not have been very influential over the years. Conservatives are banned on most social media platforms—on Trump’s watch. Jn 8:36, 2 Co 3:17, Re 13:1-18

You thought he was your knight in shining armor. He was not.

>You are not honest about evil, or you wouldn't be supporting the enemy…

I don’t support devil with the mask off—or the devil with the mask on. You support the later.

“I prefer clarity to agreement.” ~ Dennis Prager

>>4100665

>[Open theism] You push his myths hard.

It was predetermined that you would say that.

>>4100550

Hahahahahahahahaha

Funny. I guess you think that makes you a genius, huh?

At least, thank you God!!! we are spared having to deal with 3 year olds and manipulative children trying to use God's words to validate their agenda and narrative!!

Hahahahahahahahaha

You are really funny

But still a shill

>>4100751

Uh ooooooO. Look out,

we have another God head graduate from the .com information center.

Yes. Sign me up

I trust you sooooo much…

>>4100674

When you abandon God to follow myths, of whatever nature,

At this point in your life, wherever you think the point issssss??? How can you tell WHO's in your head?

Heeheeheeheeheeheehee

How many credit hours of indoctrination do you have so far? And such a wide spectrum…

And why are you here?

Lost Shill

On Trump's watch. Trust God's plan. [Florida College That Supported Islamist Professor Upholds Christian Ban]( https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/11/florida-college-that-supported-islamist-professor-upholds-christian-ban/)

>>4100751

Tell me tell me tell me

what am I predetermined to say next???

Oh please, tell me…

The suspense is sooooo

suspenseful….

Have you made it to that .com lesson yet? Oh please say yes….

On Trump's watch. Trust God's plan. [Netflix Accused of Promoting Sex Trafficking in Drama Series ‘Baby’]( https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2018/11/30/netflix-accused-of-promoting-sex-trafficking-in-drama-series-baby/)

On Trump's watch. Trust God's plan. [Feminist Journalist Banned From Twitter Over Saying Men Aren’t Women]( https://townhall.com/tipsheet/briannaheldt/2018/11/30/feminist-journalist-banned-from-twitter-over-saying-men-arent-women-n2536789)

63,000 indictments? Or the ground work for (Order 66) Prepare your mind for this | The Unleashing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrLu-7SGWIA&t=0s

>>4100674

You quote your "teachers" nicely.

I'm sure they have a blog somewhere for you…

This is not their forum

Lost politics shitposter Shill.

[President of Sodomite Dating App Grindr Says Marriage Is ‘Between Man And Woman’]( https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2018/11/30/ironic-president-of-lbgt-dating-app-grindr-says-marriage-is-between-man-and-woman-n2536822)

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>>4100550

This is a paid shill

GTFO shill shitposter.

334c85

>>4100950

You should probably step away from the end time sensationalist stories for awhile and re-group.

Galatians 3:22

But the scripture hath concluded all under sin,

There is no "honest" escape from this scriptural conclusion, personally applied.

What IS Jesus' Endgame? To destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8

Matthew 1:21

And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

We can see open evidence of the real enemies of mankind via their actions, everywhere, withIN everyone.

But WHO are the real enemies?

The great tribulation is unto DEVILS. The "tables" will be turned on THEM. Their control over mankind will END.

This is the promise of the Gospel, in Christ.

All nations shall be gathered unto HIM. And He will separate sheep from goats. (Matt. 25)

That separation is upon US, as mankind, from the works of the DEVILS within ALL mankind, yes, including withIN christians, first and foremost.

The Judgment falls where first? Upon believers:

1 Peter 4:17

For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

It is NOT what you think you see with your eyes. This end game will NOT come by '''observations."'

Luke 17:

20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

The Division of His People comes from within. When we are divided and saved from our OWN indwelling sin and evil present withIN us all. Romans 7:17-21

Who are His people?

John 3:35

The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

There is no person that God does not own. He, Jesus, owns EVERYONE.

John 17:2

As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

Matthew 13:41

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

The end time is about the END of this generation, singular, of the devil and his messengers. The generation of vipers and serpents:

Matthew 12:34

O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Matthew 23:33

Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Luke 3:7

Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

Matthew 23:36

Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

I know this picture is hard to see. But you see, Mark 4:15 is an internal reality, for everyone. There is YOU as a person, there is Satan who enters ALL hearts to deceive, and there is Jesus in the MIDST OF US, in His temples, standing BETWEEN these TWO parties, man and devil.

What did Jesus do during His Ministry while in the flesh? He separated mankind from devils. He will DO THE SAME at the end of their world, the devil's world.

Even at the end of His Discourse in Matt. 25, Jesus tells us clearly, openly WHO gets sent to the flames of ETERNAL HELL:

Matthew 25:

25 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

We have all been led to shun these Words of His in fear, when we should actually WELCOME these Words, personally.

Hard place to go because internal resistance IS REAL, but that's where we are ALL heading.

Matthew 7:23

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Job 34:22

There is no darkness, nor shadow of death, where the workers of iniquity may hide themselves.

Galatians 3:22

But the scripture hath concluded all under sin,

DIVINE JUDGMENT FALLS UPON ALL, STARTING WITH US, AS BELIEVERS.

Time to stop lying to ourselves about the scriptural facts and FACE OUR MAKER, HEAD ON, for the finale.

The evil present within all WILL NOT ESCAPE the DAMNATION of God in Christ. No, not one.

God is WILLING to show His Wrath. Are we willing to RECEIVE IT?

Romans 9:22

What if God, willing to shew his wrath,

Now, everyone reading this, run and hide from GOD'S FACE, from these WORDS OF HIS…because that is what the DEVILS are doing within YOU.

>>4101235

Titus 3:2

To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

There is ample scriptural evidence to speak evil to the evil present that we are ALL bound with in the flesh.

The finger of God points to ALL of us.

Luke 11:20

But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.

To CAST OUT also means to BRING FORTH.

Let's trot out the truth, for a change.

The VOLUME of God is going UP.

Your HEADS are corrupt. Do you need any clearer of a PICTURE?

You are in DEBT up to your eyeballs.

You are being INVADED by illegal aliens.

Your LAWS can not protect you, and are in fact AGAINST YOU.

The LAWLESS run free from the LAW.

The world is filled with pollution and filth.

Everywhere you look, IT IS GOD, SPEAKING in the above about the real problems and WHERE THEY ARE, within.

At the end of time, the MESSAGE OF GOD's Word, His WATER, will be HARDENED, likened to HUGE HAIL STONES…

We're just seeing the beginning of sorrows.

The end will come with personal travail, and great sobbing tears and FEARS, and a RIPPING APART, a great EARTH QUAKE, until the enemies of us are driven from within.

ALL the messages you need to hear are set before your very EYES, by GOD in Christ…yet not perceived, YET.

Luke 9:56

For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.

WHO is going to be destroyed?

Look inside. You'll see if you look HARD.

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>>4101744

Proverbs 3:5-6

Trust Adonai with all your heart;

do not rely on your own understanding.

In all your ways acknowledge him;

then he will level your paths.

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>>4101744

Matthew 10:34

"Don't suppose that I have come to bring peace to the Land. It is not peace I have come to bring, but a sword!" For I have come to set

a man against his father,

a daughter against her mother,

a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law,

so that a man's enemies will be the members of his own household."

The crazies have been busy.

The few instances of Aramaic in the New Testament proves without a doubt that Jesus spoke Greek and that the New Testament (i.e.e gospels and most letters) was written in Greek.

If this was not the case, if it were written in Aramaic, the direct quotes in Aramaic would have never been highlighted in the writings. They would not stand out, because the entire productions would have been in Aramaic.

Koine Greek. The language of Jesus.

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>>4116317

Why any kind of Greek sucks in understanding the Bible.

(So tired of your worthless arguments)

Try to pay attention.

1) Most of the New Testament is incomprehensible apart from the Hebrew meanings, roots and "Jewish" context.

2) Mary was told by the Angel of Adonai that she would give birth to a son, "and you are to name him Yeshua, because he will save his people from their sins." (Matthew 1:21).

The Angel did not say to name him the Greek word Iêsous that has ZERO to do with sotêr, the Greek word for "save" or the Latin, Jesus.

Only in Hebrew or Aramaic is GOD'S meaning exact and true.

Do you get that?

Hebrew Jeshua is the masculine form of the word yesh‘ah meaning SALVATION. It's based on the same root word yud-shin-‘ayin, as yoshia, which means "HE WILL SAVE." There is no Greek word or meaning to replace GOD'S word for the name of his Son. None.

3) The number of Tanakh Hebrew prophecies, hundreds of years older than the New Testament events and writings, are fulfilled by Yeshua from Natzeret, the Hebrew Messiah. Yeshua was prophesied, not what you try to cram down peoples throats glorifying Greek as God's replacement language.

The same applies to Yeshua translated into "Jesus." The name has no meaning from God. None.

MEN TRANSCRIBED IT

TO A MEANINGLESS WORD.

There are literally hundreds examples of Greek word failures to GOD'S message.

Of course you would know that if you actually looked at the Hebrew roots and meanings.

(I hope you can handle the caps but I'm sure you have a "safe place" to go to)

To get out of the storm.

>>4116317

Koine: NOT the language of Yeshua

NOT the language of God.

And it never ever was

And it never will be.

Ask God, not this moron who is stuck on his own limited understanding.

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>>4086387

Boards under attack?

>>4050786

All sins are forgiven at the cross, the cross you are on. Jesus was crucified as an example for us to follow, yes? Many religious people ask, why is Jesus still on the cross? He’s not. That’s man on the cross. It’s each of us, at least it’s supposed to be, no?

>>4060030

Once we Begin to commit and follow the good Word, we have committed to spend the remainder of our days in the wine press of Eden. Is it a test? You bet, it’s the trial of our faith until the End.

>>4119734

I don't disagree with that, it is well put.

>>4119734

What I disagree with on here, and I can't tell the conclusions of what you're getting at, but people mislead when they imply all sins are forgiven, (due to Yeshua was sacrificed on the stake) and equate that with all people are forgiven, and thus all are saved.

Yeshua didn't teach that, and neither does the Father.

What is in scriptures all through the Bible, is our Savior will save us, Yeshua freed us from death, and it is sound teaching that sin is death, and that we have a choice. Life or death. As it states in many scriptures, if we reject life (who is the Lord our Savior and the Light and only Truth and Way) we die in our sins. So what is the important lesson?

Once we choose life, and seek the Lord (confess our sins, continually put off sin, seek his counsel in our troubles, of course he forgives us, and we know it! Our Wonderful Counselor! He has everlasting compassion, love and mercy for his children. But not everyone is his child. And he rejects the double hearted and the lawless, and the doers of evil, as he puts it. We must know our enemy.

Not all are saved, not all are his, and he teaches that over and over.

We would not be subject to having a harvest, or God's wrath, if all were saved.

That is not what the Bible teaches.