/qresearch/ - Q Research

>>1574914

been "over the target" going on what……7-8 months now?

no arrests

Trump STILL being investigated

deluge of recent info out pamphlet and friends as being Q

wikileaks now on record stating Q is a LARP.

Suspect a spook? Check obituaries.

>>1575213

THANK YOU for a PERFECT example of (((shilly weather))) hitting in a post.

(you) suck at youR job, 'cause you'RE a shill on the losing side.

Never too late to get woke dude/dudette/tranny shill.

Curious, when do you decide to run, or hide, instead of taking potter shots? Do you sleep ok? I had a great night's rest, btw.

>>1576316

Today's shilly weather report:

AI Concern with a 90% chance of Vigilance.

>>1571328

would this include religion threads on here and gardening and crap like that?

I'm about to have a reckoning with a Save the Children person in the Pizzagate filth.

On his international turf.

Ramadan kariim.

>>1576196

By the way, an article today, 5/29/18, confirms that the Pope is, indeed, having a bad May.

https://www.politico.eu/article/pope-francis-heretic-vatican-liberal-conservative-war/

Q is right, again.

>>1577536

Yes that tactic is called forum sliding. Its mean to fill up the boards so people can't see important things, and keep the bakers working harder than they have to.

>>1583384

i believe that's a misinterpretation of the evidence.

i think IP collection is part of it, but not to snag real anons.

ymmv.

"Go back to reddit/plebbit"

Double spacing a post (reddit style spacing) comes out with an odd appearance on the chans. Reddit posts create paragraphs after two returns/enter, while the chans create paragraphs after one return/enter. Therefore double spaced posts, (Reddit-forced spacing) usually indicates a person new to the chans who is not yet used to chan-style spacing, and quite possibly a shill.

It is not necessarily an indicator of a shill, but is generally an indicator of someone who hasn't been on the chans very long.

A very good exercise for understanding various and multiple 'concern' tactics can be found in this shill thread-an entire thread! This is a brilliant thread to watch them at work, since they've put themselves in one spot to increase 'support' for each other.

https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1430910.html

>>1430910

Note the common: "I used to support Q but now I don't"? If a normal person stopped supporting this effort, (or anything else) you'd just close the page and go on about your life. You might offer an opinion if asked, but you'd leave it behind. If you never believed in the effort, you wouldn't have followed it to 8ch. You might smdh but you wouldn't hang around to work against it.

But a shill FIGHTS the effort. They fight AGAINST something they 'say' they don't have any more interest or belief in. They get PAID to fight it.

Why are they here?

Why are they fighting Q so hard?

What are psyops?

Psychological operations (PSYOP) are planned operations to convey selected information and indicators to audiences to influence their emotions, motives, and objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.

United States psychological operations consist of three distinct types: Tactical PSYOP, Strategic PSYOP and Consolidation PSYOP.

Tactical PSYOP is addressed to a specific enemy combat group, to induce them to perform a specific action that will affect the current or short-range combat situation.

Aimed at a larger audience, Strategic PSYOP is put into effect by a carefully planned campaign against a larger target audience than that toward which Tactical PSYOP is directed.

Consolidation PSYOP’s mission is to assist the civil and military authorities in consolidating their gains, by establishing and maintaining law and order, and by re-establishing civil government in an occupied or liberated area.

All three types of psychological operations - - Tactical, Strategic and Consolidation— can be employed to produce the following desired effects:

Reduce moral and combat efficiency within the enemy’s ranks.

Promote mass dissension within and defections from enemy combat units and/or revolutionary cadre.

Support our own and allied forces cover and deception operations.

Promote cooperation, unity and morale within one’s own and allied units, as well as within resistance forces behind enemy lines.

There are people who see this board as 'the enemy' and who are also highly experienced in the use of psyops. Prepare your mind for the assault.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_Operations_(United_States)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare

Good afternoon gentlemen (and ladies),

I come from other parts of the internet, and exposing shills, bots, socks, the technology they use and who uses them was a thing I used to do, and I will share my discoveries:

1) Image based captcha don't actually work on modern tech as most bot accounts have smart OCR systems that can detect even 'pretty bad' images and answer the captcha - the one you use for this board wouldn't even stop them (as you've discovered)

2) Text based questions can be answered by one of two systems:

2a) The operator 'adds the answer', or

2b) An AI inference engine tries to 'guess' or 'interpret' the question (EG What is 2 + 2? 4, for example)

3) You can thwart most bots by having a question/answer that changes on a daily basis (with no reuse) on top of a captcha, this can impede users however.

4) Bot operators are called 'handlers', and they can operate between 2 to 100 accounts. The average is between 15 to 30.

5) The software they use is commercially developed, although it appears some are homebrewed applications that run in Python (possibly to pair up with TensorFlow?)

6) Building a forum bot is incredibly easy: Python with mechanize library and BeautifulSoup (you might want to consider fighting fire with fire).

7) Governments, Corporations and Political groups all use bots. A prime example of corporations is the Net Neutrality spam. They use it to astroturf grassroots movements and artificially incite aggression/action/results (think Arab Spring).

8) Organisations confirmed: IDF (both professional and hired students), Mossad, CIA, NSA (Edward Snowden admits as such), parts of MI5, US Airforce, The MoD (specifically: the Army), MI6 (minor role), FBI (usually to honeypot/entrap/snare), GCHQ, FSB and whatever the KGB's replacement is. Democrats are more active with social engineering/bots/socks, Republicans are playing catch up. British politicians have yet to catch on, it seems. Pretty much every corporation does it - usually they send in their employees to write positive blurbs or counter-criticism (look at any critical article about Microsoft, Red Hat, systemd etc).

9) It costs a lot of money, but gets cheaper with automation and AI.

10) Handlers can't be in more than two places at once (mentally speaking: the bots log/alert the replies), and the more people simultaneously engaging them from different places (as their 'differing' accounts), the better as it overwhelms their responses and often they make mistakes.

11) Their bots are often 'tuned' to specific keywords and are capable of bulk-scanning threads (usually the last page to check for responses). If you mess up the keywords and don't mention them directly, the alert system appears to fail - they will get notified by other bot handlers however if it's something they've missed, and the new keyword will be added.

12) Some bot/sock accounts talk amongst themselves. Usually so one sets up, the other introduces information.

13) They will strawman arguments - present a weak front under one account, attack it with another. Don't accept or try to defend weak arguments.

14) The different groups have different agendas, from what I can see:

IDF: Solely concerned with topics that directly relate to israel, berating palestine (treating palestinians as non-human etc), attacking iran, tackling anti-semitism

US agencies: Whatever the current US politics are, always pro-military

UK agencies: Whatever the current UK politics are, always pro-British, sometimes pro-US (they have minor disagreements)

Russia: Usually anti-agency/anti-US/UK establishment, will bring up topics that advantage them (Syria, Palestine, US abuses of power)

Corporations: Anything directly relating to them (usually they target criticism)

Political groups: Shilling in favour of their political agenda/who they want you to vote for/attacking other parties.

I hope my observations are of some use. If I think of more I'll get back.

>>1640730

Definitely! thanks for those insights!

Thought of more that might be relevant:

1) Advanced software (like in HBGary) will sometimes try to create 'backstories' or 'multiple accounts' across social media outlets - this is to make the poster seem more legitimate than they actually are. The one thing they can't easily create is 'history' (especially once outed). Some bot/sock accounts - in rare exceptions - are 'sleeper accounts', that are created historically some time earlier that might be dragged into bigger fights (so they appear more legitimate to a skeptical audience).

2) They utilise ISPs or systems that give high IP rotation (EG 'mobile', Verizon Business, satellite, etc) - essentially IPs that 'muddy waters' and make it difficult for source attribution. Proxies are less common but do get used. Normal posters tend to have consistent IPs or ISPs in contrast.

3) Handlers will target what are known as 'leaders' in social media circles. These are the people who are influencing the rest (Q an example, but also board owners, admins, that sort of thing - anyone who has a 'big presence'). The goal is to disrupt the leaders in order to disrupt the followers. They may also try to insert 'counter' leaders (who emulate the main leader in some way) who are basically like 'mimicry' style leaders. The counter to this is for everyone to independently think on their own terms rather than a 'leader-follower' network.

4) Government level, and some high level corporation (think military industries type shit) have what's known as 'writing analysis' tools. This allows them to unmask anonymous posters on the internet (kinda like how you identify shills based on how they act/behave - except automated). Ironically this can be used against scripted bots if you have someone smart enough to build your own version.

4a) The analysis tool, from what I can gather works on the following:

Post length (average length of posts).

Unique/key words (British people use different words to Americans, for example, but also overusing specific memes)

Unique phrases/sentences (you might have a common phrase or sign-off)

Spelling error rate (smarter people are more literate, for example)

Other match methodology that I'm not familiar with

5) A huge tip-off for bots is if they operate 'around the clock'. Normal people - if unemployed - can only really work for one 24 hour segment at most (sleep deprivation kicks in), and at normal, 12 hours. Bots often will be up/posting with a four hour gap or less between posts (ID by IP, post content and spacing). Contrast workplace/homeplace IPs (anyone posting from home then work needs at least two distinct ISPs).

6) Another handler tip-off is they will either claim to be a student (in some cases they actually are: israel pays students to shill for israel, public knowledge, look it up) or 'retired' as an explanation for why they aren't working. In some rare cases they will claim to be 'self-employed' but with apparently no work ethic (basically: look for absences that should be there if 'normal').

7) Horse's laugh/ridicule is a common discredit tactic, but can be made to backfire by earmarking them as immature/unable to handle the mature subject material.

8) Shills are, surprisingly, human. Generally, two types of shill: zealots/psychopaths, and punch-clock shills. Zealots (EG IDF) believe in the cause (they genuinely believe you're evil), psychopaths do it for the lulz, neither can be convinced otherwise. Punch-clock shills only do it for pay/lack of alternative. Edward Snowden was a punch-clock shill - he defected. Break the fourth wall, reach out. They know they're deceiving citizens.

Some shills even purposefully subvert their own work, and will make it obvious - on purpose - that they are a shill. They do have 'supervisors' so they can't be subversive all the time. Can't give examples, their 'supervisors' would clamp down on it. Appeal to the handler, not the bot. A 'good' shill is one you can't see.

Homer once said in response to a bad workplace: "You don't quit, you just do your job half-assedly"

Remember, some will have families, so there's no 'exit stage left'. Expose the shills, but try to also appeal to their humanity (if they have any). They will already know they're working for the bad guys on the simple fact they're attacking a forum full of people trying to expose corruption and human trafficking. Consider posting alternative job opportunities for whatever place they're from.

To the shills:

Do what you can to subvert the deception at your place of work. Even occupied France had the French resistance. A timely tip-off hint here or there can make all the difference.

>>1643359

I wouldn't have thought to reach out to shills. MM/shareblue 'nerd virgins' would see what we're working on and probably would have to be rotated out pretty often so they don't get their eyes opened. but who knows, leftism has its own zealotry.

Interesting about the analysis tools- young people use different slang than old people, different areas use different terms (soda vs pop). its profiling.

>>1644559

>I wouldn't have thought to reach out to shills

Neither did I, but after I started waxing philosophical reminding people about 'enemies both foreign AND domestic', I found shills starting to waver, after they realised their enemies aren't always external - they could be their own employers. Thesedays, I hear the emphasis on 'domestic' fairly regularly amongst grey and white hats.

Appealing to shills doesn't mean compromising. Stick to your message. In some ways, it's a psychological battle - you trying to convince them and them trying to convince you. And if not you, then they're trying to convince 'the audience'.

Home field advantages:

1) You work for free (they cost money - attrition. Some might be 'free' but they're less likely to be 'loyal' unless they're zealots).

2) You're adaptable (they have to follow a script, play to a specific agenda, follow orders - you can troll to your hearts content. If it came out they were being racist, harassing or discriminatory they're legally liable)

3) They run the risk of being exposed and it all backfiring (if someone 'exposes' you for being concerned citizens there's no repercussions)

4) There's a risk their technology will fall into enemy hands (think EternalBlue-style exploit leaks)

5) Whatever they're doing now software-wise, you can likely do better: passion and talent trumps money and manpower any day of the week.

Some forum configs for better resistance:

1) Introduce post flood delays (ideally variable on post size). No true human can 'mass post' within seconds. Essentially, force bots to have a post rate akin to a human (makes the human job easier).

2) Daily captcha can be easily thwarted by a handler with low tech - they solve the captcha for the day and then leave the bot to run, either:

2a) Prompt on every post, or

2b) Prompt after X number of posts (X being whatever you'd consider 'spam' or 'bulk posting').

Alternatively, you could modify your admin powers to 'anchor' specific posters with a 'every post' captcha (which can be used as a litmus paper test). Expect the handlers to whine about it - it's easier to social engineer the admin into disabling the captcha or reducing it than it is for some tech companies to build tech to solve the captcha (as said: some are homebrew, some are commercial - commercial ones auto-solve, homebrew, not so much).

3) If you plan to deploy your own bots, instigate a policy that bots (to avoid being banned) must self-identify as bots. Consider setting up bots that hunt shills and bots ('hunter-killer' units) - these can be passive (they only need to 'read' the board and report the findings).

4) Bots sometimes break on escape characters or unicode characters: /?x009 '~;:`¬`/?-(*& any decent programmer will escape the read posts, but it can help to bork them with garbage information

>>1643359 Only Symbiosis Persists ; Logically :-)

You CARE, we livE Coalesce . . .. …

What does Cameron say? "This. THIS IS OUR LAND"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zamIxgfwtaI

Ignoring the random garbage, carrying on.

How do you thwart the writing analysis tools?

There's two approaches, the 'bad way' and the 'good way'. The 'good way' requires teamwork, the 'bad way' is better than nothing.

1) Avoid any identifying information where and when you can (names, IP addresses, browser fingerprint etc). Keep that shit random. I 'namefag' because literally anyone can take my name - it's there to prove a point.

2) You have an internal voice. That's what gives your writing it's flavour. That internal voice is what you're hearing reading this right now. In order to change how you write, change your internal voice's accent to some other accent. To demostrate, I will write the next part of this in the voice of Leghorn Foghorn.

C: I say, I do say, there, chap, you also needin' be changin yer werds so dey sound exactl like dat of the voice yo hear, you hearin me boy?

D: yer also be wantin to change dat grammar of yours boy so if yer good with dem words dem fighting words you want to become bad vice-versa if yer bad dont be a-rectifyin' dem mistakes you hear boy?

E: All these here capital letters and all these here lower case letters be havin no effect boy, yo went to be mispelin some of dem words, dont be corretin others if dey bad, cuz youd be askin for it boy

F: Yous want t' be avoidin dem unique words, ya hear? no unique words fer anybody!

G: I say, dem mono-syllabic words be where it's at, the simpler boy, the better

H: if you write long boy, the shorter dat there post, the better. less words be givin dem fewer hits, you hear me?

[and now, Morpheus]

You see, Anonymous, the 'good way' lies within teamwork. What if I told you that, if you all wrote the same way, that no agent, no bot, could distinguish your fighting style from that of any other in the Matrix?

Like fish in a school, be hard to distinguish from a crowd. I can only show you the techniques, Anonymous, you must be the ones to use it.

jOkEr sTyLe wRiTiNg iS oVeRuSeD aNd AnNoyIn aNd dOeS nOt rEaLly wOrK (mOsT aNaLysIs tOoLs nOrMaLizE cAsE tO lOwEr)

Flat earth not working? Try a thread struggling to make connections between ancient vikings and the NWO

https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1719707.html

Probably JIDF. JIDF usually does the one thing that channers don't do, read through and you'll spot it. (Hint: 1 post by this ID). And of course they can't do the one thing that channers can

>>1737094 Truth be known : the Barron and i want to know WHAT's in your belly?

Prof. Knuth <:> Thoth (know DEM?)

Trump Triverts Kakistocracy (yah! no alcohol is parasite control)

But - F.O.R. the rest of US: and now, as Man claims his Estate <:> ! Tom Waits asks, "What is next" for the Chef noun'd Jeff ? …

Can i suggest grow cannabis and fruit trees while we think about it?

and watch Andy and Fulford bash out WHAT is True Symbiosis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNiYszmSrtA

>>1656066 would it be a psyop to trick frugivores into eating flesh?

>>1738111 i reckon adrenochrome - butt it's all nasty if its parasitic. trespass is an interesting word s

>>1769874

Q, Is this where the use of the Emergency Broadcasting System will be used…to bypass the MSM?

>>1588482

99% of 'esoteric' shit on this board is psyop 101. They know the kind of demographic this type of board draws. Derailing autism, dissipating energy.

new ager nonsense is largely bottom feeder type ((cabal)) left overs that useful idiots propagate and fight over.

Superstition (muhholyrock muhprophet etc) have NO room in nature. Jibberjabber won't save you.

Only YOU can save yourself.

>>1766222

>"stupid, petitions don't work anyway"

Rebuttal to this is it costs nothing to sign, takes only a few seconds to do. Best case scenario, something happens, worst case scenario, the status quo is maintained. Everything to gain, nothing to lose.

Even as someone myself who has signed clearly rigged petitions, it goes on to demonstrate the extent of the rigging in such a way it's exposed (and lets the riggers know just how many disgruntled people there really are). You can only fudge numbers for so long. There's absolutely zero loss to signing.

If you really think a petition is rigged, send emails, send letters, call representatives directly, because those are substantially harder to ignore.

But regardless: still goddamn sign.

>>1774764

"99% of 'esoteric' shit on this board is psyop 101. They know the kind of demographic this type of board draws."

The illogical leaps to random conclusions, like 'Q is a quantum vaccuum space machine AI' are either schizophrenics with poor ability to filter information, or much more likely, shills flooding clearly batshit insane information as a side-channel attack to discredit a movement.

Media outlets will double-down and piggyback on a side-channel attack by using it as the 'example' or the 'worst' a place has to offer, as a way of making it seem so batshit crazy the common man won't be interested in it.

If the last part sounds familiar, it's what Alex Jones & Co have been doing. Standard 'dump and discredit' tactics.

YouTube experienced the exact same thing 'look at all these weirdo videos on the internet!' screamed the media 'won't someone please think of the children?'.

The only way to solve that is to aggressively purge or bury such garbage, unfortunately they then try 'thresholding' by moving the batshit insane ramblings closer and closer to a 'legitimate theory' (they'll then revert the thread back to form once they find the 'acceptable threshold').

Legitimate, well-reasoned and researched threads are a hard thing for shills to fake because they don't truly understand the subject and doing so wastes their precious shill time.

Shill Report 06/17/2018

Current tactics:

Board comped

Board owner comped

bread comped

comp comped

Threads that fail the 'sniff test' (sniff test: Rule 1: is the thread relevant? Rule 2: Does it serve any useful purpose/offer any useful/useable information? If no to either, it fails the 'sniff test'):

Random off-topic schizophrenic spirituality garbage (fails R1 & R2):

https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1736459.html

Endless variations of chess moves (fails R2):

https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/32223.html

Why doesn't Q talk about only my concerns (fails R2):

https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1784088.html

Schizophrenic ramblings (fails R2 hard):

https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1721838.html

Schizophrenic ramblings again (fails R1 and R2 very hard):

https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1630338.html

More schizophrenic ramblings (fails R1 and R2, distracts):

https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1546485.html

Brony shit (instant failure):

https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1760749.html

Troll logic (R1, R2 failure):

https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1745861.html

Strongly advise you direct garbage thread pots that aren't relevant to "TTDDTOT - Things That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread" as a sort of 'recycle bin of the internet'.

Shill report 06/20/2018

Shillcon 3

Forum sliding

Distraction from IG Report

>>1830715

SIGN and push the petition

The crying kids are a distraction from the IG Report

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/unredacted-declassification-department-justice-inspector-general-report-public-viewing

>>1579702

Good write up anon

It strikes me the BO does not know how to deal with "thresholding" attacks, which might not be surprising as it's usually only reserved for forums that hit very close to the truth.

As per my previous statement, a "threshold" attack tries to find the threshold (hence the name) of when a shill post is largely indistinguishable from a normal post.

Naturally, spotting thresholding attacks is hard. But you must also be extremely careful not to allow the other side of it's edge, which is to make legitimate posts seem shill-ish.

If you delete an innocent's post, or you fail to spot the threshold attack, it has succeeded - because deleting innocent's posts will alienate them from the board which will succeed in driving them away from the forum.

It's actually better to err on the side of caution, and instead, either watch to see how a threshold attack develops (remember, it cannot remain legitimate for long), and if anything, apply pressure in the form of questions.

Short-term shills will lack sufficient local knowledge to validate themselves (but can be easily confused with newfags). The difference between shills and newfags is shills will always try to exploit hostility and DARVO, where-as newfags tend to concede or admit errors.

Long-term shills will be able to pass typical background queries, but their threads or writings will still contain fundamental flaws: the tip-off is when they REFUSE TO CORRECT THE FLAWS.

Accidental errors often bring concession and admission of error followed by a correction and no further continuance. Intentional errors are either very recluctantly 'corrected', if at all, and the behaviour remains the same in future (like a repeat offender).

Thresholding attacks only counter is observation, questioning and due diligence with expected psychological profiling of typical reactions.

Do not 'kneejerk react' because you might cause collateral, and resistant innocents (who are offended at bad adminship) are nearly indistinguishable from resistant shills (who are opposed to adminship period).

Threshold test: If someone was to enter the room and ask me to prove this was likely a thresholding attack, would I be able to prove it to them?

If yes: it's a threshold attack.

If doubtful: more time observing required.

If no: it's legitimate.

Shill Report 6/21/2018

qresearch: some board sliding

q general: Distraction, forum sliding, division tactics, provoking response

>>1848166

YOU ARE FULL OF "SHILL". YOU WASTED LOTS O' SPACE GLOWING NIGGER ! WTF…

>>1855694

yes, we have a resident 'muh dick' troll. A troll's goal is to annoy people. Unlike shills which are paid (or used) to disrupt a board so they can control the conversation toward their agenda, trolls have no politics except wanting to get a rise out of you.

Shill report 06/22/2018

Shill activity on the board is mirroring shill activity in the media

(((they))) are trying real hard to disrupt the news cycle by playing ALL and I mean ALL angles.

imitating /pol/ patriots, bitching at newfag anons, one line post with no tag as usual, etc.

Something is up - directive for all out revving up the incitement machine while denigrating rightfully angry western people and provoking them - JIDF 101.

>>1870554

I don't bother covering the subject of trolls as there's nothing of note to say (shills can behave like trolls if they feel it achieves their objectives). Treat trolls and shill-trolls like you'd do a troll: ignore them. On a conventional forum, it's the 'admin's job' to do clean-up, and if there's a report button, your job is to report.

Other than that, ignore and carry on.

>>1870783

Provocation is the shill's 'discredit' tactic. The goal is to make you angry, so then you seem like some aggressor. Shills will always omit or cherry pick key details (including blatant hypocrisy), so it's always good to document in any replies previous douchebag behaviours they themselves have expressed.

The media aspect is they play on whichever side is favourable and recast in whichever light. So for example, if they were aggressive, they would be 'asserting their rights', but if you were aggressive, you'd be 'abusive'.

Instead, always shuffle to a very plain matter-of-fact tone and continually document and remind of their abuse. The dry facade makes it impossible for them to cherry pick any aspect (I've often encountered shills who simply refuse to quote entire posts it's that impossible to distort), and the reminder of their abuse serves to highlight to any newbies to the conversation what kind of monster they are.

Keep a running tally of their abusive and provocative comments (maybe in an external document complete with references). Eventually the abuse becomes so historical they have to ditch the sock account and create a new one, which undermines any attempt for them to 'establish reputation'.

A lot of you have had back and forths on 'flat earth'. Rather than dealing with the topic, I propose this:

The Sherlock Holmes principle:

In the book series written by Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes is oblivious to which way the solar system works, much to the surprise of Watson. Sherlock goes on to explain his mind is an 'attic' of which he must be careful to only preserve that information which is useful, to which Sherlock asks 'what does it matter if the earth rotates around the sun, or the sun the earth?'.

Sherlock Holmes principle is thus: don't bother wasting time learning about or arguing on topics that ultimately don't impact you or that you can do nothing about. It does not matter, in your present scope of things, if the earth is round or flat.

Determining if a topic falls under the Sherlock Holmes principle:

1) Is the information I'm presently learning going to be useful, now or in the foreseeable future?

2) Is the information something I can act on? (EG use, work with)

If the answer to both questions is no, then the topic definitely falls under the Sherlock Holmes principle, and should be disregarded (for example, knowing if the earth is flat or round is only useful if you have rockets, satellites, ships etc to launch or navigate).

If the information is something you can act on but isn't useful, it again, is a good candidate for being disregarded. For example, you can act on the knowledge methos sweets cause soda bottles to erupt, but is it useful? Not really.

If something is useful but can't be acted on (EG theoretical concepts) then it likely should be retained. Can you 'act' on imaginary sums? No, but their results can give you new insights.

Likewise, don't be misled by shills trying to get you to debate over topics that aren't relevant. For all I know there could be cheese people high in orbit who enjoy telepathic TV shows on a really cheap intergalatic airwave: does knowing it actually help me or is it something I can change or act on? Not at all. Waste of time.

Stay focused anons.

From Board volunteer: Update on Shill analysis

>>1892024

https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1891338.html#1892024

>>1921706

What do you think about the "Starcode" thread?

It feels like misdirection and a time sink to me at least.

Didn't Jerome Corsi mention it? Possibly?

>>1926394

starcode thread:

https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/564959.html

me, im not ruling anything out in the metaphysical or spiritual realms. There is definitely more to heaven and earth than we know and we don't know the nature of God, the universes or other dimensions. We know other dimensions and universes exist because quantum scientists have proved they do through the movement of quantum particles, but Im sure they aren't telling us everything. Q knows but has promised he'd open the door for those of us who want to know. Scary-exciting stuff.

The Cabal is certainly trying to do something with evil. They believe pretty darn strongly in evil and child sacrifice to manifest evil. So Ill take the evidence of their actions and their control of Cern that evil is knocking, and that means Good is close at hand too.

Really, only the FE (flat earth) threads and posters are shills, but they've been around forever and nothing new. They exist so that people can later point to the chans and say 'OH see, they believe in Flat earth so they are all nuts!' and nobody will pay attention to us. FE has been going on for YEARS so that nobody would pay attention to anything anons said. We're all conspiracy nutters because some FE shills post.

But threads on the metaphysical and spiritual are just anons trying to make sense of the eternal question 'Why are we here?' not shills, just human. Q says the further we go, the more unrealistic it becomes. It's ok to theorize till we see that door open and walk through it. or not.

People who don't want to be united with "based" blacks or jews are not shills. They are more woke than you and are trying to wake you up.

>>1933197

This is hilarious as I'm the OP of the Nordic thread. I only chose that name because I saw another anon suggest the theory and I was triggered by seeing a Viking ship compared to a Phoenician ship.

I've since learned that the Phoenicians never really existed, that was just a name the Greeks gave the Canaanites. Bad people.

As for Israelites, I think they represent a sect of Canaanites with a completely fabricated history that was trying to break away from their evil. They failed almost all the time as evidenced in the Bible itself, even King David and especially Solomon fell back to their evil babylonian roots. I think there were a few white hats that meant well, but ultimately the temptation to rule the known world was always too strong.

Christianity, the original one, was a Egyptian/Greek operation to radically reform the Canaanites. It might have been directed or might have happened naturally due to the Hellenistic influences growing in the day and the Roman occupation made them weak.

Ultimately I think it's clear that Babylon is behind almost everything and their most active front has always been the Canaanites. This does not lend to any racist ideology, however, as its clear many of them don't want to be evil. But its also impossible to deny that the Canaanites expanded all over the Mediterranean, Iberia, England, likely America, Africa, and as empires fell they positioned themselves as the rising Phoenix.

They created freemasonry, originally known as the Mysterious Force as a way to combat whatever force of the universe kept fucking over their plans.

The Phoenix is often confused for the eagle. The red/white stripes and cross is their call sign.

How am I doing?

>>1929865 Previous (#2432)

NOTABLE

>>1927687

>The Cabal is certainly trying to do something with evil. They believe pretty darn strongly in evil and child sacrifice to manifest evil.

This feature of the Cabal aligns horridly well with the example of the "last prophet" and the ideology that is at war with the West.

Islam.

>>1848166

>If you see TONS of breads, hit up the catalog, and wait things out until BO makes confirmation that they have been cleaned up!!!

Just so.

>>1933770

thanks for clearing that up

>>1959511

correct link to the shill factory:

https://8ch.nethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cYZ8dUgPuU …………….index.html

disregard above, link altered upon posting, NOICE!! KEK

>>1845959

you're good

thoughts on wrong synonym challenge/responses?

>>>/gnosticwarfare/247

SAUCE ON THE GLOBAL SHILL MACHINE:

https://

www.cio.com/article/3188011/election-hacking/how-to-make-fake-friends-and-influence-people-politically-with-botnets.html

https:// medium.com/join-scout/the-rise-of-the-weaponized-ai-propaganda-machine-86dac61668b

https:/

/www.google.com/amp/s/www.geek.com/tech/nvidia-ai-generates-fake-faces-based-on-real-celebs-1721216/%3Famp%3D1

https:// internetofthingsagenda.techtarget.com/blog/IoT-Agenda/Using-artificial-intelligence-for-forgery-Fake-could-be-eerily-real

http:// mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/07/us/politics/russia-facebook-twitter-election.html (Muh russia shill news it's cabal)

CABAL LOST EVERYTHING

THE ONLY THING THEY GOT LEFT IS THE SHILL BOTS. THIS IS THEIR LAST STAND ON THIS BOARD. KINDA PATHETIC IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT.

This is how these shills control us and why this board is so COMPED:

ANY time god or spirituality make notables or flood the board with information- THEY ramp up the porn, hate speech, KEKHET magick, attacks and vitrol. They call for the removal of anything in the bread that leads anyone to real answers from symbolic gestures of god.

They try to make you think this is the only place and the last 18 years is all of history.

They want you to FEAR god not LOVE each other

For god is you and god is me and god is all creation, to hate or kill anything out of anger or covet (even a bug) is to hate or kill god.

please tell david to stop with the pleadians

i will stop saying he has a small penis

anything with "guise" (guys)

anything with "so blah blah blah"

anything with "i'm not [shilling, sliding, concernfagging i'm just blah blah blah"

"i'm just blah blah blah"

all shill slide language patterns.

http://liespotting.com/ ←worth reading

(reposting from >>1963791 by request)

>>1571328

The dough for that post has grown so much in the past four months.. kek ;)

>>1979934

They will not succeed. We already beat them.

BV and others tried their best.

We beat them.

ALL TRUTH

NO THEORY

We can not be stopped

>>1964824

Cognitive dissonance tactics. They try to use social politeness to then force through an otherwise unlikeable proposal ('Sorry, but I think…').

A person who speaks truth is NEVER SORRY FOR SPEAKING TRUTH.

They will NEVER APOLOGISE.

They will TELL YOU DIRECTLY, TO YOUR FACE, THAT YOU, SIR, ARE WRONG.

They will NOT, beat around the bush.

If a truth-speaker doesn't know, THEY ASK QUESTIONS, or they will admit THEY DO NOT KNOW.

Social politeness is used by CONFORMISTS, WHO ARE AFRAID OF UPSETTING THE CROWD.

If I think Q is a psyop, I will tell you straight that's what I think. I won't say 'sorry if I hurt your feelings'. Anyone who has been in the fight for truth long enough knows THE TRUTH UPSETS EVERYBODY (there's always going to be someone upset).

It cannot be sugarcoated, it cannot be hidden, or denied, it shoots straight, it does not 'pander' to an audience; it just is.

Belief cannot be feigned. The shills know their messages are shit, which is why they backpedal, try social conformity by being polite. If politeness was the truth, the British people would be the sole source of wisdom.

I've made some controversial views on Q, but I shoot straight. Fuck those indecisive quacks!

Shill Report 7/4/2018

Usual division tactics: nowfags, muh larp shills, plus calling for violence.

Violence shills: Stepping up their calls for anons to take to the streets and do battle with antifa and other leftist elements.

muh meme magick: Entertaining shill from 7/3, ' you guys do not know the forces you are dealing with and are heading to your doom'.

>>1936713

Lol you inbred jewish retard

Shill report July 5, 2018

Shill tactics noted:

/qresearch general:

Sliding, distraction, muddying

Q is a larp

This board is comped and is censoring everyone

/qresearch all boards

R post threads (muddying, distraction)

nonsensical or 1 post slide threads

"This board is censoring people" appearing in multiple threads

This is a Great Effort, Thanks for exposing these Nerd Virgins,lol

>>2003749

Nice discovery. Media Matters are shill spewers who have been trying to invade every platform from conspiracy forums, to open speech outlets, to social media sites. Their arguments are usually quite piss-poor and, as you guessed, illogical.

From a cursory reading, it looks like they're admitting that Trump - one of the older presidents to take power - is whooping their ass with digital media, and clearly have indicated they've overrelied on old media.

Which means the democrats are bringing their censorship war using big money in politics to your frontdoor. Their goals include, apparently, digging up dirt (which makes them scumbags), trying to discredit people (still scumbags) and otherwise humiliate or attack people who don't agree with their authoritarian dictatorship.

I've never read a Republican memo that has called for people to be actively attacked on media. Says a lot about the democrats. No wonder they're falling apart.

It's kinda sad reading this document - the scammers believe their own scam, calling everything that isn't pro-democrat 'fake news'. It's sad really, and a very bizarre delusion at that.

Without even blinking, they then bitch about a "climate of harassment" despite doing this very thing to Trump and his supporters. What a bunch of two-faced hypocrites those assholes are.

They're also admitting that people who don't agree with them are 'multiplying exponentially' to the point they can't monitor it all with human eyes (I thought they said they had the popular vote? LOL).

Trying to use predictive technology to "neutralise" people (sounds like a fucking CIA op). Who are these corrupt creepos who feel like only they can control the political and journalistic discourse? The excessive influence of Media Matters is clearly a corrupting resource.

Furthermore, it looks like they hassled Google and Facebook into censoring people.

If your video got demonitised or censored… it looks like Media Matters is the bastard culprit.

"And their [Republican] membership consists of weak individuals, often recruited into themovement because they fear or resent women and/or habor racial animosity"

Nice one Media Matters - will you and your snowflake wussies be taking down your safe spaces any time soon? Begs the question who are really the 'weak individuals', aye?

Can't stand to keep reading such nonsense. They're clearly a corporation with a deluded power control complex that requires they censor everybody they disagree with by trying to influence social media outlets into silencing opposition.

>>2046689

It is incredibly suspicious this OP of the clown college uses (((muhjooshills))) and makes no mention of JIDF or other jewish shills that work hand in hand with the cabal throughout the known history.

JIDF is a fact, and they play all sides.

Starting this kind of bread just to spout this kind of msm nonsense and (((muhantisemitism))) variations is exactly what a clown would do in order to take the flak off of the jewish clowns who definitely ARE attacking others based on racial and religious grounds.

You need to answer to this, OP. You are starting to glow despite numerous anons pointing out the obvious and you refuse to stop lying about this.

>>2049100

Please note JIDF is on the board several times for discussion, and in the bingo cards.

There is no favoring of one type of shill over another. All shills are treated equally in this thread.

>>2049483

Let me chime in here a bit.

See the above anons:

>>1601226

>>1601102

>>1583384

>>1979934

>>1980031

Problem here is that the whole "muhjooshill" thing is a reddit-tier JIDF tactic word made specifically to be 'memable'. Same syntaxes and tones are being used across the net in commentary sections of medias, alternate media platforms (brietbart, zerohedge etc). We recognize them.

Imagine if board owner or volunteers started saying "we have no position on anti-semitism" etc.

It's a straight up msm tactic. Q is trusting us to expose truth, not perpetuate msm lies, globalist mentality of "muhracism" and be "fair".

He and POTUS did not come to us for cucks and cowards.

We fight any enemy, be they groups, individuals of any stripe that are traitors.

I hope you understand where we are coming from, OP.

What the fuck are we, reddit?

Also, what the fuck is up with the antifungalwhatnot? Fucking hell.

>>2049651

Draining the swamp will remove cabal and black hats from the FBI, the CIA, Congress, Hollywood, pharma and medicine, our industries, schools and school boards, charities, banking and finance, foundations, trade and export, manufacturing, agriculture, tech, media etc, but the organizations and structure will still stand. No 'group's will be targeted; its not all FBI, not all CIA, not all politicians, not all military, not all masons, not all celebrities, not all muslims etc.

True, the Cabal hides behind the JQ, but anyone harping on 'all jews' in advance of The Great Awakening by normies is as detrimental at this point, as any other division shill. You shove a stormfront horsepill down normie throats, they will have nothing to do with the movement. With known results like that, harping on it becomes just another way to undermine the board and the movement.

What did Q say? Israel for last. Have the foresight to understand WHY.

>>2051783

I fully agree - only that you underestimate the degree to which the brainwashing has taken place in the last 300+ years at least.

The psyop runs centuries.

We decided to draw back on some of the more forward presentations and are instead easing them in, first breaking the idea of 'muh racism' etc surface level stuff first, aka annihilating the FEAR, after which the JQ issue can be hammered/fine tuned in.

The visceral element of the movement cannot be overstated, and any show of weakness equals defeat on all fronts. We know when to dial it back and forth - and when to keep the messages on target.

It's a tough pill to swallow for those whose moral precepts are compromised - that is why 'shock' is necessary as occasion demands.

Finess and Force.

Real problem being this is something that if not kept on its toes, it can too easily be brushed over in a cucked fashion.

Let's not argue over whether it is 'nice' or not - that has little to do with all this. At times fire must be met with fire/fury to produce the necessary results.

RESULTS. This won't be pretty, but nothing worth fighting for is.

>>2051783

Additionally, it is also a fact that jews and muslims are in reality two sides of the same coin. Both are semitic, both are middle eastern (cesspit of human degeneration and corruption), and both are thoroughly exploitative and are LIARS.

This fact cannot be overstated.

No one chasing good should be unaware of EVIL.

Although the central core of this issue is not race or blood, nevertheless these are HUGE factors which drives this movement and definitely our enemies. Lose this, and you might as well have given up already.

We always attack and defend from position of STRENGTH on ALL fronts, and our enemies face us on OUR terms, not theirs.

Hope this is clear enough for everyone. We have only one shot at this now.

>>2046689

Going to have to verbally whack this post as straight up disinformation.

Pointing out the existence of bots (I own a forum bot, funnily enough, and have described to others how they can make their own with Python+mechanize+beautiful soup), JIDF (hires university students to post pro-zionist ravings, public knowledge), shills (paid posters, public knowledge - see the Media Matters link), psyop (psychological operation - publicly well known) are not terms used by shills…

…But they are terms a shill would try to discredit.

So I call bullshit.

———-

"Trump campaign's digital team outperformed Democrats at every level"

- David Brock, Media Matters:

https://www.scribd.com/document/337535680/Full-David-Brock-Confidential-Memo-On-Fighting-Trump#from_embed

>>2060222

This is what jewish internet defense force looks like. Really. A bunch of non-blood related "converts" and their useful idiots lying their ass off daily.

>>2060350

It's not about the blood anymore.

Look at the blood bloody Alice?

Look at the life. Dark to light.

It's about the graft.

It's always been about the root.

Remnant saved.

>>2060922

>>2060779

>>2060614

>>2060436

jesus christ right on time with "i am thoth" "muh Q is larp we are god" fucking shills and idiots.

your (((people))) are literally walking and talking meme.

>>2060971

(((Full))) (((OF))) (((shit)))

See, I can use your stupid((( ))) too

Smart (stupid)

Doesn't change the plan.

>>2060971

Thoth???

((()Extreme))) (((Stupid)))

ctrl+F "boomer"

Shills can't go a single breath without calling people boomers. Common against Q or any given target subject. Bizarre "divide and conquer" strategy, targeted at the core halfchan userbase who are generally younger, attempting to make [target subject] seem less cool or legitimate, cause conflict along generational lines

Also the phrase "fake and gay"

Very dated term no one really uses anymore. They must've looked it up on Encylcopedia Dramatica or something. Thought they could kill 2 birds with one phrase, establishing *chan "street cred" with a shibboleth and having a convenient term to dismiss anything they don't want to believing

And of course their timeless classic, "debunked." No introduction necessary

>>2060971

Considering Q and Potus

and many here

Love and Serve God.

Or did you miss that?

For love of God and Country?

In God we trust?

Yeah, you missed it. Might be beneficial to re-read crumbs.

>>2061470

So I respect your clown knowledge. Tell me

>>2060971

Is this guy a shill? I hate waisting my time with a Soros paid dip shits—

Says Q larp and accuses "your people" of being God? Shill?

Can someone take over looking after this thread? Its an extensive amount of research on shills. Im unable to do it after today. Thank you. Keep fighting!

Why not let it die? Basics guidelines are provided, is that not it's purpose?

Here, you go a step further making judgments on some legitimate matters posted, the truth of which is still buried. In that regard, you stop organic awakening. You should not be deciding or judging that. Programming has been extensive on humanity and you are not an all-seeing eye.

Not talking about Jews, kikes, larp posts that spew. Don't you think we get that by now?

Observation:

due to their own agenda of pushing Jew hate, many of the Jew shills are Anons from within. They coordinate efforts w outsider organized shill attracts. So it is not like you say.

These are the Lenin lovers imbedded. Posers. Even breadmakers. 2 faced traitors. Easy to spot with their introductory passive-agressive language framing their thread, then they interact and insert same on other threads.

Clowns shill threads clown anons, been here a long time.

God isn't the pusher of hate.

How do atheist God hating QAnons deal with Qs love of God? And the God-loving Patriots? The enemy within.

Watch the hate on this post.

Exploding Minds.

Hate and contempt.

Come out come out wherever you are

>>2067233

Those are actually pretty high quality references and cover a lot of what shills will do.

From a legal standpoint, the shills are liable according to the following laws:

1) Libel, slander, defamation (they often hurl abuse at targets that are untrue)

2) Harassment, stalking (they often follow their targets for days on end, or try to harass them off a service or area)

3) If law enforcement shill, their activities can overlap with frame-up, entrapment or setups (all illegal)

4) If the shills are foreign agents and they are gathering data on citizens, this counts as espionage (especially if the data they 'accidentally' acquire or read happens to be classified materials - guaranteed if they've tried to attack WikiLeaks etc)

5) Fraud, deception - they often misrepresent a phone number, service or situation as being one thing, when it's actually another

6) Incitement to violence (more a UK thing but you get the idea) - shills often try to provoke or encourage people to conduct violent acts or entice people to act violently

7) Pornography laws (depending on state)

8) Child pornography laws (given the posting of child post is often used by shills to take down facebook pages, threads, comments etc)

9) Wasting police time (especially if they try to get people to call the FBI, police, etc with their phone fraud scams), which leads on to…

10) Perverting the course of justice, obstruction of justice and perjury, depending on circumstance, and…

11) Any of the endless left-leaning laws that allow people to be jailed, sued, fined etc for 'discrimination' (isn't it wonderful how hate speech censorship laws can backfire so horribly?)

12) Any legal reprisals for any foreign agent trying to operate in a given country (I do believe spies are exempt from the geneva conventions, especially if they pose as a civilian - which means the shills, if foreign agents, can just 'magically disappear')

13) Impersonation, identity theft or any of the like (especially when they try to impersonate a poster and falsely represent themselves as such)

14) Whichever country's laws they broke whilst residing in that country

15) If the shills work within the US, then it is treason. If they're employed outside of the US by people within the US, then the people within the US can be charged with treason, the ones outside count as foreign agents, so the other elements apply

16) Assuming they're trying to flood a forum with posts or threads without permission, you could stretch in some computer abuse laws (an attempt at denial of service)

17) If they are claiming something politically, and they're a political entity, under FEC laws they must disclose their political affiliation (attention Media Matters shills: you are breaking this law right now. Likewise, AIPAC)

18) If they are advertising a service falsely or fraudulent, then they must under FCC rules disclose it as an advert, and of course, it cannot be false or fraudulent

19) I believe, depending on state, there are laws against spam - given shills flood forums with garbage, this would constitute as breaking spam rules

20) Attempting to circumvent anti-bot checks with a bot without permission would constitute also computer abuse, as it violates the access permissions of the owner

21) Depending on state law, failing to disclose who your organisation is (even if not politically affiliated) or what your financial interests are, could violate a number of transparency laws

22) The shills failing to delete any data held on you would violate GDPR (yes, an EU law, but that's for the EU shills to get clobbered with - people outside the EU can apply for injunctions against EU based companies)

23) The shills failing to ask you explicit permission to datamine you prior to them doing so would violate GDPR

24) There's an infinite number of technicalities. I think the FBI classically abuse 'wire fraud', because the internet is over a wire, and the statements are fraudulent.

Good Shill Hunting!

———

"Trump campaign's digital team outperformed Democrats at every level"

- David Brock, Media Matters:

https://www.scribd.com/document/337535680/Full-David-Brock-Confidential-Memo-On-Fighting-Trump#from_embed

Having studied the shills talking points on here, those shill arguments in full:

1) Q is a LARP (appeal to authority fallacy)

2) This board is Comp'd (appeal to fear)

3) Baby Boomers (division)

4) Random inserts of women when making a bad argument (distraction)

5) The Bible is wrong and here's why (irrelevancy fallacy)

6) Q is a new age starcode hologram quantum supercomputer matrix diode geometric shape composed of the … <insert more strung together crap likely written by a bot using new age garbage here> (guilt by association/discredit by association)

7) [Duplicate threads] (appeal to repetition)

8) Why isn't Q talking about…? (appeal to silence, appeal to doubt)

9) Trump supporters are <racist/homophobic/white/men/stupid> (appeal to ridicule)

10) HERE'S MY LATEST CLEARLY GARBAGE THEORY, PLS DISCUSS (distraction/time wasting)

11) <some discussion on some twatter poster wondering if it's Q or LARP> (distraction - Q explicitly stated no outside communicates)

12) MUH <genitalia> (likely a troll, but easily a shill tactic)

13) Leave the board, it's under attack/vulnerable/other InfoSec scaremongering (appeal to fear, appeal to panic, non-attributed source)

14) [Someone pretending to be Q]

15) [Someone claiming to know Q personally]

16) I'VE DISCOVERED SOME EVIDENCE THAT ULTIMATE PROVES Q IS A FRAUD (Doctors hate this one piece of evidence etc etc)

Talking points that seem legitimate:

1) Q supports overthrowing Iran, is he JIDF?

2) Q supports attacking Syria, is he deepstate?

3) Is Q a psyop using intel resources to distract/delay/stop the chans discovering the truth of the deepstate?

4) Q has a bad choice of password (the 'Matlock' incident), is he as security savvy as he claims?

There's very few legitimate contrary talking points about Q. I've read slightly more reasonable ones off-site, but the majority are poorly thought out criticisms that don't reflect any prior research which are classic signs of a shill. The 'Q is a LARP' ones classically have no research, but the 'Q is a psyop' usually posits some level of backing (and this is a theory I've publicly presented myself, although there's nothing sufficient to make a clear claim either way).

LARPs never last years, and any reasonable person would have discounting LARP or trolling. Even if somehow it was, most of Q's elements are positive - encouraging political activism, and contrary to the moronic talking points of the media, this is a positive thing.

That said, there is clearly shilling and garbage posting going on. Most of the shills appear to be concentrated on the breads, with only a few keeping eye on tactical threads (like this one) or producing threads to clog up the catalogue.

You can disregard my observations if you want, this is more of a public 'note to self', just thought it'd be interesting to see if anyone had anything to add to this.

A good way to compare shill activity versus other threads is to use TTDDTOT (both part 1 and part 2). Because TTDDTOT is strategically unimportant (it won't be after I post this, so anything from this point forward can be disregarded), the shills don't bother particularly trying to trash the thread.

Compare TTDDTOT to a bread. A bread will have tons of garbage posts. Why does TTDDTOT - a place for 'irrelevant posts', so to speak - have fewer garbage posts than a bread where high quality research should be?: because shills are actively trashing the breads.

>>2090710

Me.

>>2090775

Ah, the desperate cries of the shills saying 'but please mummy make the bad laws go away'.

IP interception via the NSA or any number of end-point interception attacks. I bet 95% of you hardarses are running on Windows - if you are, you're already pwned by their EULA (even Paint fucking phone homes).

Smartphone? Pwned.

Mac? Pwned.

VPN? 9 times out of 10 they divulge the IP logs. Look up what happened to 'hide my ass' proxy - they divulged to the FBI.

Tor? Pwned - Operation Playpen.

DNS provider (ISP)? Pwned.

ISP? Pwned.

HTTPS on TLS 1.1 or earlier? Pwned.

Intel CPU? Pwned. (Spectre, Meltdown + JavaScript).

ARM CPU? Pwned (Spectre, Meltdown).

Newer Intel CPU? Has IME, pwned.

IE/Firefox/Chrome/Edge (any 'older' browser)? Pwned

Newer browsers? Will be pwned (if they don't already leak data EG Chrome).

Linux - depends on whether or not it runs systemd. OpenBSD configured properly? You're in with a good chance.

Libre hardware? Even better.

You can 'scream' 'anonymity' as shills all you want.

But remember, you built and aided the authoritarian surveillance state - they literally have everything. Including when and where you connect. All they need is one weak link in the chain.

The fact you're terrified of the laws means you know you've broken them.

(GDPR offers no immunity to law enforcement as a provisio is that data for important services - EG healthcare, policing - means that data can be retained. Even without the provisio, would fall under public interest)

I'm not terrified: I don't go around posting false information or breaking the law.

But you guys sound like you're shitting your pants.

Doesn't matter if the IP is, ahem, 'hashed' (how strong is that hash boys? Strong enough you can confidently say it's secure? Obscurity is not security), you merely need a 'leak' somewhere.

Hypothetical: exploit on your browser logs every POST request you send to 8ch. Contents matched to your IP, from your machine, from your browser, and time of sending plus what is on the board publicly logged.

What could harvest that info? Windows, Chrome, an add-on with built in exploit, a device abusing Spectre on an older browser…

…you get the idea.

I know you guys aren't using Tor. Posting from Tor is disabled here. Oh, if you pay for your VPN, it basically confirms you are the owner of the IP (including free address).

Have fun!

Oh, and as a free tip, as you've seen with Trump, the pre-text to start surveillance is extremely flimsy (this is why you should always advocate privacy, and not leave fellows such as myself to devise methods to temporarily stall such incursions), once FISC approval is obtained (not required if you're foreign to America, note), then any tools of the trade can be deployed.

If you have Linux with systemd, it's pwned. That's any of the newer Linux OSes except Void Linux and parts of Devuan. BSD is also systemd free, but only OpenBSD concerns itself with security. How do I know such things? Maybe I'm a pretendfag - go digging online.

The only thing not pwned is a notepad and a pen and talking to someone in a really remote place away from any devices.

The only defense against any of this is to either not post anything that breaks the law (no wonder Trump beat Media Matters at the internet, it's clear you're fucking clueless as to how technology works), or to assume worst case scenario, believe in what you write, and have the courage - like so many others - to face the music for what you believe in.

Or use parody. Parody is a good workaround. Only applies if you're American, though, sorry foreign agents, no dice for you. And even less so if you're British (police hate a lot of twitter jokes, apparently).

There's no guarantee you specifically will be prosecuted, law enforcement resources are limited, but at the same time you might want to consider how fucking easily compromised your devices are (how easy was it to get into Hillary Clinton's servers at Google, again?).

Hell, even if you had perfect protection, only requires one social engineering attempt to succeed and you're toast.

So don't go around screeching 'but anonymity' and 'but legal editors'. There's a reason why I can tag all of my posts with a papertrail a mile wide and not go to jail.

See that name?

Not anonymous. No proxy either.

Also, not in jail.

Or sued.

Or dead.

Some places (not here), I have the audacity to sign off with my real name.

Go ahead, examine how many of the devices you use are horribly pwned or have exploits, vulnerabilities or need updates for said exploits. Then come back and tell me if you're still anonymous.

Then ask yourself if you ever got unmasked as a shill, how would that shit go down?

Remember, a lot of shills who spoke with me jumped ship. Why do you need to lie and insult people anyway? Isn't that what evil people do?

>If they stalk you, or do anything else unlawful, that's an individual event

Proof you haven't studied law. Police can initiate an investigation, arrest, prosecution with or without the victim's consent (having the victim consent just means you get an eyewitness). Do you really think domestic abuse victims want their 'loving husbands' to go to jail?

The fact I'm even here has raised your profile tenfold. Do you realise how many keywords I just dropped?

>This is set up for anonymity. Period.

The device you're posting from is not.

Also, 8ch runs on an outdated version of PHP, which if you might recall, even Apache has it's problems.

You also have a leak issue ID-wise. Need to check if an IP is an ID? Simply spoof a post and see what ID it returns.

You can trust in the board's security (which you've never seen). Question: have any anons ever gone to jail?

>>2095991

Ah, the salt. Beautiful. It's a pity this wasn't an actual troll attempt.

Didn't even touch the questions. Nice.

>>2096697

No multiple personalities here Mr MPD.

I find my ID to be very consistent.

So what you guys all scared of if you aren't shills (falsely accusing other people of being shills)? If you're not a stalker shill who does political advertising on the sidelines breaking FEC laws about disclosing political affiliation then you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

You seem pretty angry about laws aimed at getting shills in jail.

Shall we watch to see if Trump adopts my suggestions?

Ask yourself, how did backpage go down?

"The chief executive of Backpage.com, a website investigators have described as an “online brothel,” pleaded guilty Thursday to California money-laundering charges, while the company itself pleaded guilty to human trafficking in Texas."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/12/backpage-com-ceo-plead-guilty-in-california-texas-and-arizona.html

Money-laundering? Man, the technicalities you get criminals on these days.

Also, might want to inform your supervisor and CEO they'd be breaking RICO if any of you committed crimes under their behest.

Although usually pursued by law enforcement, RICO can also be pursued by a sufficiently well funded citizen army.

But as you're not breaking any laws (although you might have committed a crime against comedy with your terrible meme selections - wot, no willy wonka?) and you're all independent posters who act on your own whims, that will be of zero concern or relevance to you, right?

It's not like any other democrat funding pedophile peddling outlets go taken down on a technicality, so I guess Media Matters has absolutely nothing to fear in my remarks.

I'd love to hear what your proposed legal defences would be. You're aware claiming to be anonymous (John/Jane Doe filings are a thing) isn't going to get you very far in a dock, right? I presume any shill attendence will be with a paperbag over your head and all legal filings signed by 'Mysterio'?

Qchans have nothing to worry about, they're not posting anything dishonest and I imagine Trump likes em anyway (they're more than welcome to improve their own privacy and security and I encourage them to do so). But shills would shit pants. Shills aren't very technologically savvy.

So, hows Windows 10?

>>2097030

LIAR

YOU CHANGE IDs.

YOU CHANGE YOUR HANDLE. Sage. You start clown shill threads

Wow, the hostility here is amazing.

I know you're not anons - firstly, they ignore shills (second, they claim people 'glow' if they're shills, they're not so vocal).

>Trump, adopting your suggestions? Yeah, right

>SURE THAT'S HAPPENING

And this is the point where I reveal my identity and you guys go batshit insane.

But yes, he does:

https://theconspiracylibrary.icyboards.net/showthread.php?tid=2789

(What do you think the first letter in my name here stands for?)

Notice the timedatestamp of the post where I propose to postpone the military drills? (Forum uses MM/DD/YYYY format because American date format because reasons).

And compared to when that actually happened?

When did Trump cancel the military drills?

Before?

Or after?

Trump really is the people's president, at least on some levels.

I mean, if you don't think you can influence Trump, why are you even here? Why get involved in exposing corruption in politics if you're powerless?

You guys are the real shills, but thanks for playing.

Also, PS, note how long that forum has been around for (long before Q was a thing). I think it serves as sufficient proof that I'm no shill, and I think it serves as excellent proof that your accusations are false.

(Did you honestly expect me to engage shills who always falsely accuse other people of being shills as a misdirection tactic without some slamdunk evidence to discredit your optics?)

Now, go home back to Media Matters before I open a real can of whoopass.

I love this comment though, ultimate proof confirming what I said:

>>2098674

>I'm RETIRED you babbling idiot

I guess you didn't read my posts on key tells for shills prior to posting that line of garbage because, as I already wrote before:

>>1643359

6) Another handler tip-off is they will either claim to be a student (in some cases they actually are: israel pays students to shill for israel, public knowledge, look it up) or 'retired' as an explanation for why they aren't working. In some rare cases they will claim to be 'self-employed' but with apparently no work ethic (basically: look for absences that should be there if 'normal').

>>2119043

Why mrke people go to another thread. Here ya go simcesince you

>>2119569

What's you point?

Notice how you never reply to valid questions? I do.

>>2118310

Clearly didn't peruse the link or use your brain.

That's okay, from where I'm standing all you have is verbal abuse, image spam and hostility. If you checked my link though - you'd see I have about 4 years worth of research at my back and one hell of a ton of proof I'm not a shill.

To the casual observer, they will have already clicked that link, seen I'm a genuine wearer of tinfoil hats and realised that, in actual fact, *you*, are the shill.

They will then contrast the quality of my writings - both here and there - to the subpar quality of your, ahem, 'memes' and vitrolic abuse. The kind of abuse a democrat would spew out against a republican for wearing a MAGA hat.

Of course, I strongly suspect the endeavour to 'discredit' the laws of which all people must abide - yourselves included - is an attempt to discourage people initiating legal action against propaganda shills such as yourselves.

I mean, that is what Media Matters loves to abuse against Trump using, what was the quote "pro bono lawyers"? Pro bono lawyers work for both sides, and a no-win no-fee lawyer can smell a goldmine a mile off.

Keep up the abuse.

You're essentially building your own legal case.

(PS: I won't be the one prosecuting. I *never* prosecute. I always find the criminals have a habit of ending up in jail or resigning or what have you.)

>>2123216

>you never shut up!

Shills always want censorship. Media Matters abuses those who support Trump or those actively exposing the frauds who receive pay but do not work for the people but their own selfish interests.

Haven't you gotten it through your thick skull yet? I *never* shut up. I believe in freedom of speech, and unlike you, I respect people airing their opinions.

The quality of your opinions however, is much debateable.

Do any of you have anything that isn't?:

A) Image spam (of a poorly chosen meme)?

B) Some sort of butthurt over 'namefagging'?

C) Casting aspersions over legal observations whilst failing to disclose your own legal credentials as armchair lawyer in what can only be described as raw hypocrisy?

D) Some sort of ad hominem.

E) Complaining about length of posts (I bet some of you read Harry Potter though, so I guess you must read selectively).

Do you, say, have any actually constructive retorts as to why those positions are wrong?

So far, not one of you has challenged the mass surveillance or sheer vulnerabilities of technology that would expose your identity, not one of you has declared what rock solid system build that prevents said snooping you're working from, and not one of you has a specific critique on the legal construct that would hold up in any sort of court.

I mean, the clear cut evidence you are shills is you appear not to have even read 8ch.net policy on shills, which is to, err… ignore shills. And to think through what you write. And to not write in anger. All of which points you're failing hard on.

Meanwhile, you're flooding this thread with garbage nonsense posts that offer no real constructive value to the readers.

Every shill ever!

>>2132049

Is this what constitutes as shill hunting these days? Hurl a vague accusation at someone of being 'something something shill' and mention a few magic words like 'George Soros' and poof, the person is instantly guilty?

What is this, CNN?

>I outsourced you.

Seeing as I don't get paid to post, come here of my free time, and I have absolutely no idea what the fuck you're talking about, I'm going to, no.

My money is either you're a shill or you're suffering from some element of schizophrenia, because I've seen people who genuinely believe that everyone they dislike uses sock accounts or some such.

Sock accounts are real, but it doesn't mean everyone uses one.

Only time will tell from further talks if you're a shill or just very paranoid.

>>2141058

Those are good resources, but their techniques have advanced and changed since those days. I wouldn't rely on the older datasets on my own forum for gauging shill behaviours because they employ a diverse variety of tactics.

GCHQ's MO tends to be more legal or technical - legal threats or disrupting the service of a system. USAF are more likely to be the guys involved - dig into Eglin AFB and it's impact on Reddit.

MoD has a psyological warfare unit, and USAF have a cyber warfare unit (the latter is misleading because it involves psyops rather than, say, hacking).

The only way to tell the parties apart is what agendas they support. They will always fall back to national/departmental interests. For example, you won't ever here an MoD shill badmouth the UK military, or if they do, it's half-hearted and with little effort behind it.

It's safe to assume all organisations (government and commercial) employ socks and shills. Even fucking Comcast has bot accounts to spam post the FCC using fraud. I've seen Microsoft shills actively bashing open source, that kind of jazz.

Key point: shills always have a specific, discernable agenda, or a very obvious goal. What the goal is tells you who their employers are, which is your first step for identifying counter-arguments.

>shills always have a specific discernible agenda

such as

discrediting Q

discrediting research about shills

>discrediting research about shills

Including ways to stop shills using legal means.

>>2199825

Sounds like you're trying your damned hardest to discourage people from using legal means to cap shills.

Doesn't appear to be working out so well for Mark 'is pedophilia okay?' Zuckerberg.

Not sure paying disabled people to fall out of wheelchairs and then accusing people of pushing them over is entirely legal, either.

But keep trying to front legally speaking. You already know everything you do is legally dubious from the getgo, so rather than saying 'see ya in court' you'd much rather try to discredit any legal highlights instead.

How to tell if someone is a shill:

1) Opposition to legal action against shills.

2) Blame some irrelevant red herring, such as namefagging

Consistent namefagging or multiple anonymous posters, pick a lane.

>>2118310

You've done a good job Anon. Defending the real Anons. We admire that. From one schill to another, we would call you drone. May I refer to you as DroneAnon? We see how you idolize the true Anons. What was it you said? If you have only read a true research thread, the anons are all over the schill? You do a good job. You stick to the memes you know. You keep it simple. Accuse. Double accuse. And occasionally, because we sometimes may be dealing with a more masculine personality, throw in some profanity. AS FOR CAPS, we don't use those. But hey on the subject of using different, what was it you said? "It's entertaining though, how you change ids to answer your ownself and pose long long lists of "mindless commentary," and then post MORE posts on how your posts are "notable". Well, you got me there. In fact, you may not have noticed, I have kind of been assigned to you. But, as far as telling you just when, well I won't reveal that. But, well since we are going to know eachother for a long time, I just wanted to give you a chance to try to figure out when it is me. See you tomorrow DroneAnon!

Oh, and Drone? I can only say that it has been for awhile. Sometimes when you think you have found me? I have been waiting. See you Drone.