/qresearch/ - Q Research

Definition of CE-5: http://new.cseti.org/ce5initiative.html

"Definition: CE-5 is a term describing a fifth category of close encounters with Extraterrestrial Intelligence (ETI), characterized by mutual, bilateral communication rather than unilateral contact. The CE-5 Initiative has as its central focus bilateral ETI-human communication based on mutual respect and universal principles of exchange and contact. CE types 1-4 are essentially passive, reactive and ETI initiated. A CE-5 is distinguished from these by conscious, voluntary and proactive human-initiated or cooperative contacts with ETI. Evidence exists indicating that CE-5s have successfully occurred in the past, and the inevitable maturing of the human/ETI relationship requires greater research and outreach efforts into this possibility. While ultimate control of such contact and exchange will (and probably should) remain with the technologically more advanced intelligent life forms (i.e., ETI), this does not lessen the importance of conscientious, voluntary human initiatives, contact and follow-up to conventional CE-s types 1-4.

CSETI is the only worldwide effort to concentrate on putting trained teams of investigators into the field where 1) active waves of UFO activity are occurring, or 2) in an attempt to vector UFOs into a specific area for the purposes of initiating communication. Contact protocols include the use of light, sound, and thought. Thought - specifically consciousness - is the primary mode of initiating contact."

CORE PRINCIPLES

"There is strong evidence for the existence of ETI, civilizations and spacecraft.

ETI/ETS have been and are currently visiting the Earth.

Careful bilateral communications between ETI and humans is of continuing importance and will increase in the future.

CSETI approaches the study of ETI with cooperative, peaceful, non-harmful intentions and procedures.

The establishment of a lasting world peace is essential to the full development of the ETI-Human relationship.

Both humans and ETI, as conscious, intelligent beings, are essentially more alike than dissimilar; CSETI is dedicated to the study of both our shared and unique characteristics.

CSETI operates on the premise that ETI net motives and ultimate intentions are peaceful and non-hostile.

It appears probable that more than one extraterrestrial civilization is responsible for the ETI/ETs contact so far observed. It is likely that this represents a cooperative effort.

CSETI will attempt to cultivate bilateral ETI-human contact and relations which will serve peaceful, cooperative goals. It is NOT a goal of CSETI to acquire ET advanced technologies which may have a potential harmful or military application if disclosed prematurely."

=PAST QFO NOTABLES==

NOTABLES ARE NOT ENDORSEMENTS

NOTABLES ARE NOT ENDORSEMENTS

>>3599238, >>4286390 Past /Disclosure/ notables

>>3635029, >>3635054, >>3635078, >>3635096, >>3635115, >>3658331, >>3683284, >>3683298, >>3683345, >>3683366, >>3709774, >>3718264, >>3727355, >>3743438, >>3625531, >>3625541, >>3625549, >>3625554, >>3625562, >>3625572, >>3625593, >>3625607, >>3625615, >>3817039, >>3830986, >>3838000, >>3842269, >>3881230, >>3895805, >>3913930, >>3918463, >>3969352, >>3976470, >>4004696, >>4014724, >>4105546, >>4114529, >>4114741, >>4125292, >>4165165, >>4192342, >>4193410, >>3180037, >>3180710, >>3248661, >>3275601, >>3495329, >>3509565, >>3520190, >>3556053, >>3556097, >>3556152, >>3556194, >>3562248, >>3563054, >>3575038, >>3582009, >>3586042, >>4320278 >>3595481, >>4320395, >>4320361, >>4320402, >>4320409, >>4320425 Human Initiated Close Encounters (CE5) Primary Sources

>>4296751 Anon's analysis of shills' agenda

>>3599311, >>3599369, >>3599412, >>3599473, >>3633741, >>3648185, >>3819979, >>3910961, >>3926690, >>3927258, >>4236019, >>3593687, >>3345108, >>3332009, >>3294687, >>3411874, >>3182401, >>3183858, >>3184144, >>4320293 USAP related

>>4272931, >>3599355, >>3900256, >>3981759, >>3623902, >>4114741, Tips on how to CE-5

>>3998997 "incarnated extraterrestrials" = starseeds

>>4210577 Roswell revisited

>>3627710, >>3638863, >>3738214, Antigrav related

>>4222600 Planefags track plane at -225' below sea level

>>3193637, >>3194457, >>3194493, >>3203228, >>3203269, >>3203326, >>3203599, >>3203936, >>3204063, >>3346201, >>3363761, >>3407444, >>3421372 Antarctica

>>3638922, >>3639092, >>3639155, >>3656180, >>3359986, >>3360936, >>3361053 Suppressed Technologies incl. New Energy

>>3639245, >>3648185, Scientific Model for Conscious Quantum Holographic Universe

>>3696175 ABA Body Language Analysis TW "abduction" case

>>4232599, >>4311855 Alleged MJ-12 docs

>>3168388, >>3180655, >>3180928, >>3276972, >>3438404 More UFO's, fewer mufon reports

>>3727113, >>3727165, >>3741424, >>3752057, >>3752148, >>3752717, >>3771402, >>4049853, >>4148676, >>3197822, >>3377382 Empirical data on ET medical healings and Contact Modalities, from Dr. Edgar Mitchell F.R.E.E. Foundation

>>3639281, >>3660663, >>3738074 Reusable Disclosure Letters/Speeches

>>3709824, >>3722833, >>3723988, >>3727210, >>3754026, >>3757907, >>3757928, >>3757945 Treaty on the Prevention of Placement of Weapons in Outer Space

>>3737836 /Disclosure/ shilled by Fake News

>>3377153 Interdasting Hostage & Non-Disclosure Theory

>>3812164 (Updated) Proposal for open source intergalactic internet that may already exist

>>3964784 Sauce on Ouamuamua harvard claim of ET intelligent design

>>3166229 Baker acknowledges CE-5 as best available evidence for ET presence

>>4320379 National Press Club, 2001. UFO Disclosure Happened Already

>>3555937, >>3555944 Comprehensive assessment of the ETI/UFO phenomenon

>>4295294 ET Let's Talking seeking Country/State CE5 Coordinators WW

December CE-5 Contact Report.

Lots of orbs.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1988390/ufo-expert-found-dead-days-after-texting-his-mum-asking-her-to-investigate-if-anything-happened-to-him/

>A CONSPIRACY theorist has been found dead in Poland - just days after he texted his mum instructing her to "investigate" should anything happen to him.

>Max Spiers, a 39-year-old father-of-two, was found dead on a sofa in Poland, where he had gone to give a talk about conspiracy theories and UFOs.

Coincidence?

>>4319575 PB

thank you!

I guess the juice is in the last 2'

conclusion from 49:00 on

If you are afraid of negative ETs or demons, find a source that is less than 20 years old that explains abductions or negative ET activity. Have the negative ET experiences been superseded by positive ET experiences? How?

>>4320608

I've had a negative experience in 2012. I didn't get a good look at what they looked like, partially because it was very dark and a bright light shining down at me. There was some intrusive telepathic communication going on. And I think something went into my eye, like they inserted something there. It's hard to remember though because I block out most of it. So with that I think they were definitely present up to 2012. I've seen a few UFOs since then, but of course know not what was in them, they were pretty far away, could not even discern a shape, but were very unusual in speed, and the second was jittery in movement

>>4320827

What information did you block out? I had a very positive sighting in 2011, I felt very energized afterwards.

Is MJ12 cooperating with Q?

Just throwing this out there—

How do we speak, normally?

Blowing air OUT, that is then vibrated by various vocal structures?

How does one speak when performing "ventriloquy"?

Air is drawn IN, and various OTHER vocal structures vibrated?

Which mode of vocalization utilizes the GI tract more?

Which mode of vocalization relies on the "reptilian brain"?

Which mode of vocalization is more common among animals?

Which mode can produce longer and louder sounds?

Which mode can producer softer yet longer traveled sounds?

Answer: VENTRILOQUY

Another thing about ventriloquy that isnt obvious…

It relies on the limbic, "reptilian" brain system.

And that system has an intelligence that is INDEPENDENT.

This is the seat of our "subconscious" and is NOT bound by time.

This is the "worm" or "dragon" that Christ threatens to destroy.

This is what the Samurai were specifically killing in SEPPUKU.

And this is the Serpent that is awakened via KUNDALINI et al.

This is the first structure formed in the fertilized human egg:

Tongue to butthole, the "vagus nerve" extends, governing all.

This is the mind of EROS, the Creator God, aka ARES, God of Courage.

And ventriloquy depends on and STIMULATES this system & consciousness.

Our ancient ancestors had a more limited vocalization set.

Greeks, I believe, had 13 letters.

This was doubled to create the modern 26.

Why–?

What transition or switch occurred, or was forced onto the world?

Ventriloquy is the mode of speech that God hears.

But ventriloquy relies on a more limited vocalization set.

As a result, ALIENS and ARYANS are *exactly* the same word… to God.

Ask a Jappo, if you dont believe me.

In fact, study their phonetics to understand this better.

m = b

t = d

l = r

f = h = p

etc…

And "people who know" are fully-fucking-aware of this.

So, what's the point?

If you haven't figure it out, ALIENS = ARYANS.

ARYANS = Sons of Ares/Eros = Kundalini Awakened Humans.

This is what the movie "Star Gate" was bitching on about.

The society of awakened humans is basically what KRYPTON refers to; its ATLANTIS.

We all have this potential.

But it has been limited in our present environment by 2 factors:

1. Low gravity

2. High oxygen concentration

Our Aryan biology is powered by Nitric Oxide.

And this is only accumulated when one resists pressure over time.

This is the benefit of resistance training and other intense exercises.

And it wouldn't be necessary in an environment with higher Gravity.

Once our Aryan, or Dragon, biology is engaged then 2 things happen.

1. NO infused into the GI system increases our buoyancy to enable gravity defiance

2. NO activates a bioelectic system powered by Brown Adipose Tissue, allowing us to generate toroidal fields, that enables D&D level abilities akin to Tesla's technology.

#2 is what the Japanese describe as "Super Saiyajin" and its basically a sustained, controlled SEIZURE that requires a fully actualized & properly conditioned Aryan bio.

So yeah, sorry to be a buzz kill…

But our conception of "aliens" is all BS.

We need to re-name this the CE5 Board because that is all that is here…

>>4320488

CE5 is gay

>>4330501

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20130011213.pdf

http://www.enthea.org/docs/Warp-Drives-Engineering.pdf

>>4331451

Go outside every night. Clear your mind or (System of Consciousness). You will start to see very bright flashes. No words or sentences. The more you go out the more you willl see.

Love synchronicity.

Been rattling around in my head for weeks - the question of why the push to get the DNA of the public. I think I found the answer and it deals with the recent push for disclosure of the whole ufo phenomenology. I will post a video - look around the 32 minute mark for confirmation. They allegedly have the capability of looking for specific markers showing people that have been in contact with ET's, also those who have other "psychic" experiences related to the phenomenology.

>>4335385

Expanded description.

>>4332384

Anon, to be real honest I've never been interested in UFO's or ET's or anything like that. I have come to realize that an experience I had a dozen years ago would now be considered a "contact" event. It involved a deep state of meditation and a surprise contact with two beings. These beings were startled by the contact, but didn't feel hostile, just curious. They seemed to be on their home world so I guess you could say it was a "contact" experience for them. I told them they are not from here. They were insectoid. I never heard of any ET's being insectoid until just about a week or so ago. Like I said, I've never been interested or involved in UFOlogy. I never told anyone about that episode before because to me it just seemed out of place and weird.

>>4340006

I saw a mantis being in my back yard in 2015. It was for a split second. It was kind of like an astral projection on the beings. I was very startled. Not scared but since I was so startled the being disappeared really quickly. The thing probably astonished me the most was the height. From what I could tell he or she or whatever was about 8 feet tall and it really looked like a giant praying mantis. But I only got a view of it for a split second. I had read anything about those beings and so I looked up descriptions from other people that had seen them about their height and I said to myself "If I look up how tall these beings are and it says the same thing I just saw then holy crap." So I looked it up and it said these being are usually 8 to 9 feet. I was amazed. I haven't seen one since because I think the way I reacted was kind of like they could feel it. Like they could feel my feelings and I even stepped back I was so startled so they disappeared. A lot of people have experiences and a lot of people don't talk about them especially with their families because they don't understand how to explain it. I'm very open with my family so much so that I have called on these craft to show up while family members are with me and then that family member and even friends will see it.

>>4320475

>>4320488

5:5

Baker is comped

Greershill is faggot baker from last bread

>>4341048

2nd that

we are ALL watching b6d60b + a28138

>>4320488

Bullet here with your name on it iguana boy. Stand down or be neutralized. Final warning.

>>4340962

>>4336311

>>4341048

>>4342502

>we are ALL watching b6d60b + a28138

I've seen everything I need to see now.

We can all see the baker / notables are comp'd, that's a no brainer.

Starting to wonder if every single one of these breads were comp'd from the start… only started reading the past few.

My biggest question now is… why IS Greershill so intent on convincing people to make contact?

He doesn't even seem sincere in what he's saying… it's more like a narrative he's been paid to force on everyone here.

Truthfully though I've gotten a "peaceful" feeling from watching most of these videos of people making contact.

No real reason to believe any harmful intent.

Unless… this is all one big psyop to get as much of the population to openly welcome something we don't understand / know very little about.

(Draco's)

It's hard to say if people are contacting Draco's in these videos…

Maybe (((they))) need enough of the population to openly welcome them before revealing themselves?

Natural Law and all.

Otherwise I have no clue why Greershill is so absolutely desperate to get people to do this.

The fact that all challenging topics have been completely avoided in the infomercial gives me extremely bad vibes.

I remember something to the effect of "The truth is like a lion; you don’t have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself".

Greershill has done nothing but avoid the truth at every twist and turn.

There are no good intentions (here), this I can say with confidence.

>>4343087

>Q did quote the guy who called us all incarnated ET's after all.

There's basically no other way to explain that crumb. Incarnated positive extraterrestrials working to dismantle the Cabal by shining their Light on the surface - count me in!

This board is utterly and completely comp'd.

To all the new people reading, please refer to this post

>>4336311

The fake Baker and his merry band has taken over and are now pushing their agenda as if it was this way from the start.

Good example of the BS here.

>>4340006 (Setup Mantis Alien)

>>4340733 (Reinforce Mantis Alien)

>>4343087 (Shill provides "sauce" to solidify claims of Mantis)

Follow the pattern of posts between these ACTORS. Standard tactic to try to make it look like an organic conversation. This is a manufactured agenda.

>>4321932

The photos provided by the shills were laughable. That is your proof?!?

Low Light situation with a poor camera operator. Your 'Orbs' are lighting artifacts that any photographer would recognize. Your flash is creating light refraction (you claim they are orbs) that is picked up in the cameras sensor.

The Buddha desk is my favorite. Flash used and your camera moves from left to right while the shutter is open. There is obvious motion blur that you call out as the 'Miracle of the Buddha'.

So blatantly obvious that at this point that your goal is now clear. It is not to push the CE-5 agenda, it is to overload this with so much crap that is obviously not true that any serious digging gets grouped in with your crap.

Any average Joe would see through this garbage and would tend to disconnect from the topic quickly because of the dumbed down content. So this makes for a fun window into a coordinated effort to hide and distract.

Shill 101 kids.

>>4335235

You experienced the "new age bullshit" yourself, including a form of contact, but don't believe in it?

Goodfellas for Chantix

(don't use that shit. just gain some disciprine.)

>>4340822

Anyone know how to stream Above Majestic in Canada? It's not on Amazon.ca. If possible, is it worth doing? Have a video on 369. Merry Christmas Anons.

>>4330501

This is just the "Mexican Warp Drive" predicted by a guy named ?sp Alccubriere . When I first saw it I thought it was a prank since it looked like a sombrero. but its legit. This guy basically said that if you could safely control enough energy to equal the output of the sun (or some similar and completely unattainable quantity) then you could bend space-time with it and fall into your own artificial gravity well. Like all these things that these mathfags do… It is missing something super important to actually work.

>>4332384

Yep… Have seen these. I got a laser pointer and flashed back and never saw them again.

>>4336311

You are a good anon and I am glad to slap around a ce5fag with you anytime.

>>4341048

It is actually really uplifting to see that someone is paying good money and working very hard to derail the UFO/Alien thread on Qresearch. I, for one, and happy to have that proof of aliens (through sloppy suppression) Right here in our alien room. Really makes me even more confident that we are on the right track and a lot of good things are coming for US, the REAL anons not the payfags doing CE5.

>>4343087

Well this is real interesting, Anon. Thank you for that. At that point in my life I was very into energy work and a type of energy healing akin to zero point. So it makes a kind of sense that I'd come in contact with 'healer' type ET entities. And yes, they were telepathic, not verbal and I sensed zero ego, just curiosity.

I get that a lot of the current thrust is about disclosure of UFO information as 'phenomenology' that includes psi ability, channelling, orbs, as well as physical contact, crafts and whatnot. Not sure where this will all lead or when or if we will ever receive full disclosure from the government. All of it just leaves me with more questions, like why is the government even in control of this information?

I have never and I never will trust the government. C_A is a den of snakes.

As for CE5 or whoever these are - imo just another psyop to control the narrative and push a lot of disinformation.

So today I learn that in addition to DNA markers they are looking for contactees with green eyes and Rh- blood type. These are the people that are more likely to have been a contactee AND/OR to have psychic experiences. Only 16% of the population has Rh negative blood type. It is a newer mutation (about 25,000 year ago according to DNA regressive analysis). Green eyes is also a newer mutation.

My question is WHY is the government looking for these people? Are they to the point where they need them to interface with alien technology? Or is it something else? Meh, the problem with no access and so much disinformation is it is impossible to determine independently what is the truth and what is a lie.

>>4351278

Can we get some Sauce on the RHneg info? In particular that a gov group is looking for them?

Agree that CE5 is just a great way to get people to sit around talking to aliens in their minds as opposed to actually researching it. Also, it will drive away vast quantities of people. Anyone who is a hard core physical world guy who has never been taken in by religions stuff will laugh at CE5 and ask where the ships are.

>>4355006

The point of conscious contact is to see and feel ships of positive ETs. If you need a personal confirmation of ET life you can get it, no doubt, either through your own contact work or visiting places near Federation bases like ECETI ranch.

If you are severely alergic to famefagging and the dreaded 2letter-1number remember that the only thing you are doing is a sending meditation.

If you are a shill hellbent on destroying some imaginary narrative then I cannot help you and I won't reply further. I'm probably taking the bait as it is.

The Awakening/Planetary Shift.

I think this is what we might be experiencing in full effect.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2018/11/strange-earthquake-waves-rippled-around-world-earth-geology/

From article: Perhaps the local geology is filtering the sounds and only letting this single 17-second wave period escape.

Q = 17

I honestly believe we are getting info that we are not understanding to the fullest.

I have always looked at conspiracy's and read old books, but this shit is on some other level. There are no coincidences and the fact that it happened of 11/11 is really mind-blowing to me. (The whole 11:11 synchronicity)

https://twitter.com/matarikipax/status/1061590953876582402?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.abc.net.au%2Fnews%2F2018-11-30%2Fghost-earthquake-ripples-around-the-world%2F10570572

^ Look at the wave patterns.

Like the poster is saying, it looks like two waves hitting each other at the same time. Synchronicity/fusion of old and new waves?

—————————–

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_field

I honestly believe that Q might be something way bigger than we can even grasp at this moment. I also think that whatever ET:s Q is working with/is being helped by knows that we must do this ourselves. We could currently experiencing what many people called the quickening and would that mean that we are being helped with what some people call ascension?

I'm really blown away by all of this.

Could someone say if I'm thinking crazy?

>>4351278

>As for CE5 or whoever these are - imo just another psyop to control the narrative and push a lot of disinformation.

Organic conversation?

>>4355006

>Can we get some Sauce on the RHneg info? In particular that a gov group is looking for them?

I'd like some sauce as well… vs. speculation.

>Agree that CE5 is just a great way to get people to sit around talking to aliens in their minds as opposed to actually researching it.

Which luckily we are doing here.

There is no credible research associated with CE-5, none whatsoever.

Contact methods yes, research no.

>>4357579

>The point of conscious contact is to see and feel ships of positive ETs.

Closing our eyes and imagining something is real, doesn't make it real unfortunately.

No matter how much we want it to be.

How many times has this occurred during the history of our civilization?

"Feelings" can be easily constructed / manipulated by the individual.

Seeing is believing.

>Federation bases like ECETI ranch

Federation?

>If you are a shill hellbent on destroying some imaginary narrative then I cannot help you and I won't reply further.

Would you care to fill us in on the imaginary narrative? Who exactly are the "shills" here?

Hopefully you can help us…

>>4358052

You will see things with your own eyes that will confirm it was not a mental construct. Seek truthfully and you shall find.

By Federation i mean the Galactic Federation/Confederation of Light, which is an earthly name for a positive union of good-natured ETs in the vast Universe. Think Space Patriots.

There can be lot of fighting and arguing here and I don't want to participate in it, because most of the time the intent is to do just that and not to search for the truth.

>>4358016

****

you are thinking correctly to me

>>4360828

The majority of people still dismiss anything not immediately explainable with current terrestrial science as "new age bullshit". As you have already experienced weird things, you know there's more to this world than the average surface earth human sees.

What's wrong with charging rocks in sunlight, or in the sea for that matter? Try taking a swim in the sea during a sunny day and see how you feel afterwards.

It's a snowglobe. The "earth" is a rocky core inside another planet. The outer planet is covered in snow. The heat makes the snow melt thus raising the sea level and destroying out civilizations. We are at war, the "aliens"(think bigger humans) have managed to turn the Jews against us by promising them wealth and such.

>>4360484

the evidence will start coming soon. Like how we had camera capable of recording in color in 1800s. Did you hear how spielberg recolored the old black and white footage? Have you noticed that it's too good , that there are even articles about it.

Also start here

OGLE-2005-BLG-390Lb

>>4320496

https://youtu.be/QcXjsoSrRks?t=56

The only other evidence I consider even the probability of being real is the Frozen EBE Eiger, found in 1992, in Quebec Canada.

Anything else past the year 2000 can't truly be trusted since that's when it became a huge fad, where people could easily fake it with special effects.

>>4361449

Just vitamin D, nothing else? :)

>>4373077

>One of my favorite sources is Secureteam 10.

I like Tyler as well.

However…

I have seen him rush to put things out as clickbait.

Tyler doesn't deal much with night vision videos, which to me are far more credible than most of the CGI videos on the internet.

I am not bashing Tyler, far from it.

He's been quite an important part of my own journey trying to discern truth from lies, real from fake.

I do believe that many of the videos he puts up are fake though, he also tends to want to put information out there as fast as possible without much vetting.

Just as being too skeptical, it's also dangerous to believe everything.

From my own observation, Tyler is one of those guys who seems to believe, or want to believe everything that circulates on the internet.

Like so many out there (Q Follower Channels), I believe more subscribers + more money = more important to Tyler than taking the time to properly vet the information he's putting out to his viewers.

Clickbait will always garner more subscribers than "just the facts Jack".

Clickbait < Truth

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" - Aristotle

>>4373722

>To me, this is the best "Primary Source" of videos on the internet.

^ This

>>4358052

>Closing our eyes and imagining something is real, doesn't make it real unfortunately.

Meh, if you consider that the conscious mind is not the entirety of the individual. And because of that the boundaries imposed between stuff and things are a product of it. Then there's a lot more room to work with symbolic concepts. The underlying reality is always distorted by our perception of it. Thought be it imaginary or reality is used to navigate thru the senses the underlying reality

>"Feelings" can be easily constructed / manipulated by the individual.

Depends on your conditioning. If it was easy to manipulate your feelings, I'd believe depression and anxiety would be far fewer.

>Would you care to fill us in on the imaginary narrative?

Not agreeing with the 'Federation' stuff. Humanity has only relatively recently become self-aware. When something is self-aware the only thing it can do is become more aware. The whole 'reset'; 'cosmic police','cabal', IMHO, serve to build that perception. The plasticity of the general public's emotional complexes is restricted. What if the UFO phenomena is psychological? We have various layers of social activities and dynamics. I don't agree with any top-down approach as a narrative. Because of the Galactic Federation Narrative, the abiding segment of the Ufo community is psychological frozen, I'd say. On the other hand there are those who are more intellectually frozen

>Seeing is believing.

Yes, that is true. What is more true is that if there is no framing of the perception it will be disregarded. In this case, a notion of the reality must be present before the perception occurs though the perception will present an anomaly or inconsistency to the ordering mechanism which creates the influx of continuous perception

>>4360484

>It's hard to do serious Q research when there's barely any evidence out there

Dude, that's not true. Heard of UFO research? What constitutes evidence to you anyway?

https:// carnegiescience.edu/node/2428

A team of astronomers has discovered the most-distant body ever observed in our Solar System. It is the first known Solar System object that has been detected at a distance that is more than 100 times farther than Earth is from the Sun.

The new object was announced on Monday, December 17, 2018, by the International Astronomical Union’s Minor Planet Center and has been given the provisional designation 2018 VG18. The discovery was made by Carnegie’s Scott S. Sheppard, the University of Hawaii’s David Tholen, and Northern Arizona University’s Chad Trujillo.

>>4375180

Understood clearly and I felt it was well stated.

Cheers!

>>4326838

totally agree, they need to be called out and we need to post more content

>>4374259

> Dude, that's not true. Heard of UFO research? What constitutes evidence to you anyway?

There's evidence out there, but it's a lot harder to come by these days. I'm talking about photographic evidence, video, etc of aliens themselves, especially with so many people creating fake vids out there.

UFOs exist, there's not question about that at all. There's plenty of UFO evidence, but the truth about the occupants, their intent, their capabilities are still a mystery (to us anyways).

I wasn't trying to inject doubt into UFOs, just evidence on Aliens/EBEs. Because of your push I'm going to make a better effort to start posting articles on UFOs. I appreciate the encouragement.

high five.

https:// www.cnn.com/2018/03/29/us/arizona-pilots-ufo-sightings/index.html

(CNN)Two commercial pilots flying over the Arizona desert claim they saw an unidentified flying object pass overhead, according to a radio broadcast released by the Federal Aviation Administration.

A Learjet pilot and an American Airlines pilot saw the object on February 24 and radioed the regional air traffic controller in Albuquerque.

"Was anybody, uh, above us that passed us like 30 seconds ago?" the Learjet pilot said in the brief exchange.

"Negative," the air traffic controller replied.

"Okay," the pilot said. "Something did."

"A UFO!" someone quickly responded.

"Yeah," the pilot replied again with a chuckle.

A second sighting

Minutes later, the FAA controller alerted an American Airlines plane that was flying in the area, according to the recording released by the FAA.

"American 1095, uh, let me know if, uh, you anything pass over you here in the next, uh, 15 miles," an air traffic controller said.

"Let you know if anything passes over?" the pilot responded.

"American 1095, affirmative," the controller said. "We had an aircraft in front of you that reported something pass over him and, uh, we didn't have any targets. So just, uh, let me know if you see anything pass over you."

"Alright," the pilot said.

Shortly, the pilot radioed traffic control also reporting the mysterious object.

"It's American 1095. Yeah, something just passed over us," the pilot said. "I don't know what it was, but at least two-three thousand feet above us. Yeah, it passed right over the top of us."

The American Airlines jet, an Airbus A321, was flying from San Diego to Dallas, according to FlightRadar24.

American Airlines referred all questions to the FAA.

It's unclear whether the object spotted by the pilots was a UFO. An FAA spokesperson suggested the object wasn't necessarily something out of this world.

"We have a close working relationship with a number of other agencies and safely handle military aircraft and civilian aircraft of all types in that area every day, including high-altitude weather balloons," the FAA spokesperson said.

The controller was unable to verify that any other aircraft was in the area at the time, the FAA said.

Was it a weather balloon?

A pilot said he did not believe the object could be a weather balloon.

When the air controller asked more about the object, the American Airlines pilot said he wasn't sure "whether it was a balloon or whatnot."

He only described it as having "a big reflection," and "traveling several thousand feet above us, going the opposite direction."

>>4376203

>Because of your push I'm going to make a better effort to start posting articles on UFOs. I appreciate the encouragement.

Shucks…..I have an inkling the element of, not unknown, but mystery is driving the dissonance filled acceptance of 'other-life' and more broadly alternative perception (labels like conspiracy, included)

We have a sorting problem to create a cohesive awareness of phenomena which we are semi-aware of. We also double-dip with our biases. It's a bitch filled with smoke and mirrors. Inattentional blindness is a real thing.

>>4376547

>>4376732

Shut up greerfaggot. How much is he paying you to suck his dick? Anyone with half a brain knows that siriusdisclosure.com and cseti.org are 100% comped. The cabal has greer by the balls. Probably have pics of them fucking liddle boys or something gross. His wife is a Jew goyim what more do you need to know?

Jason Rice is the ultimate authority on disclosure.

No one can contact ET by doing CE5. The videos your butt buddy iguana boy posts are faker than santa claws.

Draco nigger spook kys

>>4320499

>>4320496

CE5 is cointelpro

>>4388031

>Who would work this diligently to prevent We, The People

You do realize you're using the exact same speech patterns, grammar and syntax as when you post on your static IP, Greershill? At least try to make yourself sound a bit different if you're using a floating IP trying to draw attention back on yourself when all the Anons have figured out your game.

This is just TOOOOO obvious. Has griershill used "we the people" before? I bet (YOU) have!

Oh yeah, it IS kind of funny that you took a screenshot of BOTH the comp'd baker and griershill right underneath it. Coincidence? Really? Do you really think people can't figure out what you're doing?

>That would explain the heavy shilling. the death threats.

I think you probably made that death threat against yourself, with guess what, your OWN FLOATING IP. Why? So you could do EXACTLY what you're doing now.

>I just wish I had more instruction on how to make contact with ET

So what you're asking for is 500 more posts drawing attention back to (YOU)?

>baker seems to agree.

(YOU) ARE THE BAKER.

Once again… why would you be so STUPID to take a screenshot of both the baker with the "coincidentally" immediately followed griershill post? Dude… you really need to up your game if you think people aren't going to figure this shit out. (((They))) aren't sending us their best, this much is obvious!

>So how is "ce5" done?

Lmao, as a long time lurker with 500 posts on this and countless links to grierfag material, is that a legit question?

No… you're not trying to put yourself back in the spotlight :)

>love and light to all

This is just as patronizing as your "world patriots" slogan. Seriously dude… you really need to rethink your strategy. I for one am thrilled we have all this captured on the board.

>>4350753

BINGO!

>>4389186

>maybe human initiated contact really is the answer

Wait a second… hasn't grierfag used the phrase "human initiated contact" many many times on here BEFORE?

COINCIDENCE?

He's saying the EXACT same things with his floating IP.

This is absolutely HILARIOUS.

I am seriously LAUGHING MY ASS OFF at (YOU) right now grierfag… your last post is the absolute best proof positive that you HAVE been using different IP's to support your narrative. It's ALL been captured now and it will be saved. You CANNOT escape this.

>Why are human initiated close encounter protocols (CE5) shilled so intensely?

>So how is "ce5" done?

Yeah… you're not trying to draw attention to yourself kiddo. You're not trying to make the Anons think that random Anons on here actually BELIEVE in your narrative.

(YOU) have fallen flat on your face, in the most SPECTACULAR display of STUPIDITY I have EVER seen on this board.

>>4390657

Read;

>>4336311

>>4386378

Dude, you're a racist.

My question was, "How does one do CE-5?"

I have been watching UFO lou for awhile now, so I know that ETV are real and the truth is being hidden from us, but he does not teach people the ways of making peaceful contact with extra terrestrial intelligences.

I want to take it to the next level and start having experiences like this bloke. How do I make contact?

>>4320488

>>4320496

greerfag, are you still breathing over there?

Majestic 12

#AMA 1441 ET

>>4394429

Every time there's a good post people end up filling this thread win stupid shit like a majestic 12 AMA.

The baker isn't doing his fucking job either.

>>4394776

clever-boy, ty. i consider your postings a shit. so what? who cares what you think? your thoughts should be filling up the thread? you have already ascended!!

>>4358052

Sorry, not on the internet much. Check out Grant Cameron and his latest info for the genetic stuff. He is the source for the information that they have gene mapped the marker for those who are more likely to have contact experiences. I believe this is from Dr. Gary Nolan and Dr. Kit Green's work. They allegedly have also been able to gene map the white blood cells of people injured by close contact with powered up craft - i.e., experiencers, researchers, and military personnel that have been in close proximity to these craft that are emitting high levels of non-ionizing electromagnetic radiation.

I'm pretty pessimistic about anything that has CIA fingerprints on it. But having had enough anomalous experiences in my life I do believe there is a concerted effort to drip feed the real story to the public. But it is wrapped in so much horseshit. I swear, CIA can't do anything the straightforward and honest way. They just can't help themselves.

Take Greer and DeLong for example. Both are being fed information from the government. Greer says all ET's are good. DeLong says all ET's are bad. Both of them are full of shit.

Something is happening and it is real, but anyone that says they have the Truth is deluded. IMO, the only way to know what is really going on is to trust yourself. The truth is out there, but they won't give it to you.

>>4358016

I think you are thinking clearly. The Great Awakening. Yep.

>>4355006

The people that are doing the genetic mapping are Dr. Gary Nolan. Dr. Nolan runs the Nolan lab and he is specifically looking at the genetics of paranormal experiencers. He is working with Dr. Hal Puthoff and Dr. Christopher "Kit" Green specifically around genetic markers of those who have been injured by UAP encounters. He is also the person who has mapped the genetic marker that identifies those who are more likely to be an experiencer. I don't have the sauce for it but allegedly Dr. Green has also been able to fine map the brain and has identified an area he refers to as 'the antenna' found in people that are contactees and experiencers. I'm embedding a video. Take it with a grain of salt. Like anything else it is up to you to do your own research and decide how much of this is truth.

The Rh neg info is from another video of an interview from earlier this year with Grant Camerson. Sorry, I can't remember which one.

>>4388031

Congrats kid, you made the clowns mad! As Q would say, badge of honor.

>>4392983

>I'm surprised this event was never considered as a staple or household recall of an event involving UFOs.

Later on, Tucker reports that UFOs are real on Fox and nobody cares.

Psy-ops did their job.

>>4394776

What do you suggest then?

Except not replying to shills, which should be common sense at this point.

>>4396261

This was pretty interesting. Seems to me there's a parity of ability to sense electromagnetic fields and this 'antenna' concept. I'd bet along the lines of compressing a standing wave (of thought) to build things.

https:// twitter.com/JimSnowww/status/1074581662678347776?s=19

A UFO flies by the Dragon X heading towards the ISS

>>4398638

Something along those lines… I think the point is even the researchers don't know even after 70 years of trying to figure it all out. But things are speeding up. That is why I think this is all tied into the "The Great Awakening." I do know that the drip of information is getting quicker, and we are seeing more anomalies world wide this year… all speeding up.

>>4399463

https://twitter.com/i/status/1073318987218472961

Here's another vid that got cut from the Dragon X mission.

>>4400089

>Something along those lines

How One Man Created a 1,000 Ton Coral Castle in 1923

https://gizmodo.com/how-one-man-created-a-1-000-ton-coral-castle-in-1923-1443356836

Between 1923 and 1951, a diminutive Floridian single-handedly and without heavy machinery moved 1,000 tons of limestone, creating out of it a castle. This is his story.

The Builder

Very little is known of the mysterious creator of the Coral Castle, Ed Leeskalnin. Born in Riga, Latvia in 1887 to a family of stonemasons, Ed immigrated to the U.S. sometime around 1913 after his fiancée broke off their engagement (and a large piece of his heart). During a bout with tuberculosis around 1919, he moved to Florida, where magnets were apparently used to treat his condition. This experience seems to have had a life-changing effect, as you’ll see later.

>>4400536

>Needs a bit more sauce

Ed believed that the animating force in the universe does not come from the protons and electrons in the atom, but rather from tiny magnets of different and opposite polarity that imbue all matter. In his book, Magnetic Current, Ed explained his basic principle

It is this “perpetual power” that Ed claims to have harnessed in order to move, carve and place his humongous stones. The power itself came from a machine he dubbed the Perpetual Motion Holder (PMH). He built it on his idea that electricity is made up of two magnetic forces that move opposite each other in a double helix motion. Ed’s machine was composed of two coiled wires, each having its own terminal and current, and connected to each other nose to tail in a circuit. This completed circuit allowed individual magnets to form into one of two currents, and the currents to “chase” each other in a never ending loop.

>>4326805

This really cleared up something for me, anon. Thank you

>>4386378

http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:740301/FULLTEXT02.pdf

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Djordje_Cantrak

http://www.padrak.com/vesperman/Space_Travel_Innovations_7.15.14.pdf

Go to page 55 for Wilhelm

Reich and specific infromation on Orgone Motors.

Wow. I mean from a scientific and physics standpoint. Holy shit. I will be looking at the mathematics behind this now that I have found this. It's notable to state that orgone energy and application has been highly suppressed.

>>4405919

There is something seriously shady going on with orgonite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich

>Reich was sentenced to two years imprisonment, and that summer over six tons of his publications were burned by order of the court. He died in prison of heart failure just over a year later, days before he was due to apply for parole.

Heart attacks can be deadly. Also, book burning? Seriously?

>>4406043

So what the fuck is going on? Why do they want to suppress it? They want to suppress Telsa tech and free energy. It must have some beneficial qualities.

>>4406043

I'll try to find some Mathematics on it. Can't ague with Mathematics. You can argue with Physics since J.P Morgan paid Lorentz to change his equations so they would not include over-unity systems but the math is still there. I need to get my hands on the E.T. Whitaker papers. Anybody have access?

>>4406163

Whatever can help free humanity from slavery is dangerous for the Cabal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItSoXGCMqI8

That thing is fucking huge…

>>4406629

Different angle..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqGUUwDhVJY

>>4406199

Is there a specific paper you're looking for anon?

I found a few but not sure which one you're specifically requesting.

http://www.cheniere.org/misc/Whittak/whit1904.pdf

Man tells congress he can subpoena military witnesses willing to testify under oath to tracking interstellar craft 26 miles in diameter and programmed life forms being built under dulce.

Can anyone I.D. this guy?

>>4411060

Dr Steven Greer

>>4411060

Dr Steven Greer of the Project Disclosure. I don't trust this guy one bit. The whole alien thing is a hoax in my opinion

There are people under ground, as in a whole different race of people living beneath not on the surface of Earth.

Why do you think Antarctica is so heavily protected?

Why do you think there are pyramids in Antarctica?

Some of the zodiac signs represent races from different star system.

What will happen to earth if the rotation axis is 90degree to the orbit direction?

Can the whole Earth be covered in Aurora?

Every mythology worldwide suggest our ancestors are from out of Earth.

Why Eagle(phoenix) VS Snake(Dragon)?

Think Harry Potter(psyop)

Serius B(star)

Think Final Fantasy(black magic VS white magic)

Think Japanese manga&anime.

Why so many people are drawn to it?

Genetic memory is real.

Rh- and AB blood type?

Why did Cabal try to erase the proof of history of Atlantean Era?

What does Swastika really mean?

Different races underneath just like on the surface?

Why DJT is serious about Space Force?

Moon = artificial

There is no such thing as junk DNA

Why do some people remember their past lives?

Why was reincarnation considered to be real and was part of general teaching in East Asia and other tribes all around the world?

Can you define "field"?

Can you define "ether"?

Why do Tibetan monks use sound to meditate?

Why do cats pure and why were they deified in Ancient Egypt?

Thoth/Hermes Trismegiatus

Why is singing bowl(copper) used for water consumption?

Manipulation of molecules?

What are the benefits?

What is this whole "bloodline" crap by Cabals?

Space war

Why Hindu deities have blue skin?

Which creature has blue blood on Earth currently and why?

*EAGLE* representing USA has deeper meaning than most would think.

Can you see the patterns in world flags?

Most flags have deeper meaning than you think.

Why is it Eagle VS Snake?

After all this bullshit done by Romans on humanity, why do Europeans still believe in "Jesus"?

WE THE PEOPLE are not born with sin.

If "sin" represent damaged DNA, then yes.

The moment Europeans wake up and realise their ego is the biggest enemy of their's will be the beginning of the change on Earth.

The moment they can really see with their "beautiful coloured eyes" that they are so proud of, will be the beginning of the change.

The moment they decide to learn from tribes all around the world will come.

To get close to their spirituality again.

To be able to see the truth again.

>>4411060

No wonder he is so hated by shills!

Is the disclosure project the same as www.siriusdisclosure.com? It says this guy has been advising president's on the UFO phenomenon for years!

>>4411060

He is universally hated by shills - why?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1059157/greenland-earthquake-meteor-explosion-nuclear-bomb

https://www.space.com/41393-fireball-explodes-over-greenland-military-base.html

>On July 25, an object moving at about 15 miles/second (24.4 kilometers/second), or 54,000 mph (87,000 km/h), was identified near Thule Air Base.

>The asteroid exploded with a force of 2.1 kilotons which is about an eighth as powerful as the Little Boy bomb which the US dropped on Hiroshima at the end of World War II.

>Then tremor was so powerful that aftershocks were felt as far as 218 miles miles away, according to the research presented at the annual conference of the American Geophysical Union (AGU).

>Such was the strength that a nearby military base, the Thule Air Base, initially thought it was under attack.

>>4413368

Yes, same guy.

One of the Rothschild's approached him and told him to go public. Most anons don't trust him.

I like what he has to say about SAP and uSAP but when he starts getting into the aliens and peace and stuff, I take it with a grain of salt. He seems shilly at times.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/sci-tech/canadians-spotted-3-ufos-per-day-in-2017-survey-1.4007801

Last year, 1,101 people reported seeing unusual lights and shapes in Canada’s skies, according to the annual Canadian UFO Survey released by UFOlogy Research of Manitoba.

That amounts to about three UFO sightings in Canada each day. It was the fifth-highest number of sightings since the survey began in 1989, says science writer Chris Rutkowski, who spearheaded the project.

The report collects and analyzes UFO sightings across the country each year. A team then analyzes the reports, including photographs and other evidence, for their reliability and strangeness factor.

About one-third of last year’s cases had a logical explanation, such as a solar flare, drone or shooting star. Another third of cases didn’t include enough information to be sufficiently studied.

New UFO Lou UFO follows I.S.S. Where does this rank on the Close Encounter scale if it is not human initiated encounter?

How do we discern if this is or is not one of our own spaceships?

>>4414423

For the same reason Tom DeLong is universally hated. Both these men have huge egos and both are being played by the intelligence community. Theories why abound. They are filling Greer's head with "Yes, you are the only one that gets it!" and they have lead him to believe all EBE/ET's are good and leading us into spirituality. They are filling DeLong's head with "Yes, you are the only one that gets it!" and they have lead him to believe all EBE/ET's are evil and are out to replace/enslave us all.

Likely the IC doesn't have much of a clue what these phenomena are. Until they actually produce some real solid, touchable evidence, as long as they promise everything to people like Greer and DeLong and produce nothing tangible, I'm going with "unexplained phenomena" and with the belief that the IC/CIA, etc., are lying shits.

>>4420092

Where are the alloys? Anyone seen those? Seen any scientific evaluations? Anyone held, felt, touched them? Or the aliens?

Why don't they just land in Time Square and let the reporters photograph them? Why is it the "aliens" only make contact with the very most secret of our closed bases? If this is real (in a physical sense) how could it ever be hidden?

If these were actual physical beings visiting us enmasse from other star systems there is no intelligence agency in the world that could hide it from us. So is it a phenomenology problem as one researcher has suggested? No tangible there there just more mystery?

>>4420092

>>4420092

>What is shilly about peace? Qanon says war is a scam. (Pic).

I meant the lack of disclosure regarding Dracos and other malevolent entities out there. Alex Jones get into it a little bit with the interdimensional lizard aliens stuff but from what I've learned while down other rabbit holes seems to be that the higher in consciousness you go and the closer to source, the more lovingly peaceful you become. To be at a high enough level to be interdimensional one would be above hostilities, I would think.

>>4421201

>>4320499

>>4390657

#COINTELPRO Forum slide incoming?

It has become abundantly obvious that the bad actors of this board want all eyes on Dr. Steven Greer.

Beyond obvious for an outside observer.

(((They))) are expending all their ammo… But will fail all the same.

>>4420449

"Steering back to Greer".

Switching IP's to make it less obvious now?

Wow you guys are getting desperate.

>>4420844

Do you have anything to prove or back up what you're saying?

>>4421201

"We The People" Caps lock first letter of each word.

= Greerfag syntax and grammar.

Switching IP's might fool some.

Not the autists.

>One universe, One mind. Greerfag is right. A little crazy, but eyes on target.

DESPERATE to keep drawing attention to yourself.

DESPERATE to try to control the narrative on this board.

You are revealing all your tactics… I see right through them.

>>4422730

"Steering back to Greer".

Why would you link that crop circle?

>>4420092

You are Greerfag.

You are the baker.

You think people are that stupid?

>>4420078

You are making the right connections.

For those who haven't on here…

Notice how the baker / Greerfag initial IP hashes have slowed down posting?

It's because (((they))) have switched to new devices.

Grammar and syntax reveals all.

Notice the identical patterns of sentence structuring.

The same letters of certain words / phrases with caps lock.

It's very noticeable to the discerning eye.

It also captures with 100% proof that a group of individuals on this board are being paid to continue with a certain narrative here.

>>4420092

>Would Q allow his bakers to be comp'd? (Pic).

(You) are an idiot in desperation mode.

Q has nothing to do with vetting bakers.

For the newfags here, look into AFLB.

Anti Fungal Leaf Bread.

That individual was a baker for quite some time.

Not only that, (((they))) were a BV on this board.

THAT individual turned out to be a FAKE patriot.

THAT individual now CONSTANTLY shills the main breads.

YOU are a FOOL.

>>4421265

Ongoing as we speak - do not participate.

>>4421201

>incarnated extraterrestrials

Qanon didn't say that, he quoted an anon who did.

But he did that for a reason.

>>4411307

This is an example of bad actors claiming not to like Greer, because aliens are a hoax.

This is just like being labelled a flat earther if you don't believe what NASA and SpaceX are telling you.

They group non-believers with people who don't like Greer.

Classic CIA tactic.

>>4416521

>One of the Rothschild's approached him and told him to go public. Most anons don't trust him.

False.

This is an example of mixing lies with truths.

It's been stated dozens of Times that Greer has close connections to Rockefellers, not Rothschilds.

Once again, divide and distract techniques.

>>4423164

>>4423179

>Ongoing as we speak - do not participate

Not even FIVE minutes after truths are shared and bad actors are being questioned…

GUESS WHAT?

A SLIDE.

An authority figure telling Anons not to engage.

Funny how that happens.

Do the Anons really believe now that at least one person, or a group of people aren't being paid to control the discussion here?

The evidence is all around you…

>The light will reveal those on the team, and those pretending to be. - Q

Probably should lurk moar but I'm going to suggest that over the last 3 breads or so, I've seen a 'religious war' of sorts between the materialists and the spiritualists involved in the UFO disclosure effort. Dr. Greer is a very good lightning rod for materialists who don't believe in spiritual aspects of the idea of "Where We Go One, We Go All" and a great lightning rods for spiritualists who can't see past their religious indoctrinations and fears. Yes, there is lots of dis-information by lots of agendas. Sorry. I agree with previous anons that in order to avoid killing ourselves with self-inflicted friendly fire associated with perspective differences, should we consider breaking the topic up into categories of experiential research?

1. Experiential

1.a. This might include human initiated (CE-5 or something like it): meditation or frequency (sound or light) associated when mechanical rather than spiritual in basis

1.b. Or 'accidental' hiking/patio experiences not really human initiated: abductions (ancient, modem, recent), sightings, unusual or unexplained experiences, unusual lights that seem to tail you or move into and out of vision, tangible stuff like metals, flesh, or (mental or physical) terrain alteration that aren't interpreted as spiritual in basis

1.c. Or experiences that are interpreted as spiritual in nature (human initiated or not): changes in heart, changes in perception, alterations of physiology (healings or damagings - local or non-local), knowledge, understanding, and wisdom deltas (transient or permanent)

Not that it matters to anons but…

I am not paid to disseminate dis-information on any topic by any entity,

nor at any time am I disseminating dis-information on an unpaid basis

I'm certain there are other categories of thought that others have: 2697a26d79bbe87d

The Falcon Lake Incident

http://ufo-explorer.com/timeline/falcon-lake-manitoba-canada-1967/

>Near Falcon Lake, Manitoba, Canada, approximately 75 kilometres north of the American border in the rocky edge of the great Canadian Shield.

>>4420240

Why ET no land on WH lawn?

Question "Why is it that ET accept the [CE5] protocol here… and why don't they just… stop and land and say hey?"

Answer "The question is why don't they stop - why wouldn't a craft stop and say hey. They have some times. I just told you at Joshua Tree we had a sphere come in and there was a being there and literally waved at us - it is on our website [siriusdisclosure.com]… This is like when Larry King asked why don't they land on the whitehouse lawn? The answer for it is a really important answer. How successful has our misadventure been for instituting jeffersonian democracy in Iraq, and afghanistan?… The point im making… is that if you have a civilization that is thousands of millions of years more developed than ours, and they were to come in and force disclosure by being that open, a couple things would happen.

First, the world would divide into idolatry. People would worship them… Or would demonize them.

The military and intelligence community would say we've been invaded, and we're back to the movie Independence Day. And it would galvanize the fear to justify unifying the world - as Ronald Reagan said at the U.N. - around an extraterrestrial threat. If I have figured this out with my limited capabilities, I'm quite sure these interstellar civilizations have figured it out.

Anything that is that frontal would have blowback that is not good. So, they let themselves be known in a number of ways. They're testing our responses…

So, the ET's do not want to do something that would precipitate either panic, misunderstanding, and worse, the galvanization of the military using it like a 9/11 event to create all kinds of boogie men in space. They know that that is exactly how an event like you're talking about would be viewed…

So the only way that global, open contact is gonna happen… is if it is under CE-5 protocol with a lot of world leaders involved… & It is done in a way that is invitational and coherent.

The other answer is, what would be the purpose in doing that if the people aren't ready? And you know how I think they are measuring how ready we are? Is how much we go out there, and pull ourselves off youtube, and tv, and netflix, and go out under the stars together and with intent & sincerity, ask to make contact. That to them says 'we're ready'"

>>4320488

>>4320490

>>4320496

>>4420449

So Andrew Basiagio claims Barry Soetoro was an active participant in the Mars jump room project as a kid - interview w Art Bell - also claims he saw him directly on several occasions

>>4427372

You assume they have our best interests at heart. Therefore they would do nothing to panic people, etc. My question is why would they care? You may say they may have some sort of prime directive in place, in which case I would say, then why make contact at all which is interference.

So we have a government that supposedly has made contact with real physical beings, and they and these aliens or beings or whatever are both keeping quiet about it. At the same time we have government leaking classified information - but hey, as much as we loathe those who break security protocols to the point where even someone making statements about classified material are and have been jailed for years… but not a single person involved in the UFO disclosure effort has EVER been prosecuted.

So, what is coming from government sources is either propaganda and lies, or it is declassified. If it is declassified why can we not get FOIA requests through for these same disclosures?

Riddle me these things.

>>4427752

>>4324853

>>4326838

>>4326844

>>4336311

>>4341048

>>4342502

>>4345831

>>4345880

>>4345955

>>4350717

META

I'm trying to post legit crumbs, yet people don't shut the fuck about Greer. Feels like an uphill battle.

On other boards they like to pander the spiritual bullshit, the dimensional frequency bullshit, the reincarnation bullshit.

I used to be in a UFO enthusiast group where we went to some dudes house, an educated and wealthy man, who was trying to convince us that you can absorb the refracted light from gift wrapping paper to walk through walls. I'm not fucking kidding. The only reason they pander Queer Gueer is because there's that benefit of the doubt with unconfirmed evidence. Some evidence is better than no evidence, so some Autists will at least consider it. Shills can't use the unicorn and fairies story here because non one will take them seriously.

I've been posting articles worth talking about, even to discuss counter arguments, yet shills cast their lines with walls of text and suckers are getting hooked.

The psyops have been very successful, actual evidence has been released through the news yet no one wants to discuss about it, fuck even Q himself said they exist. That should be enough in itself for normal sane people to talk about it, yet they turn a blind eye.

THEY EXIST. FULL STOP.

Autists, we shouldn't be looking for answers, we should be the ones asking questions.

Why are aliens here?

What are their capabilities?

Why the obsession with knuckle babies, eggs, and ads probing?

Why do they want to remain unknown?

What interactions have they done with us?

How can we determine the fake accounts from the real ones?

What questions should we be asking ourselves?

Dig dig dig.

For once, talk about something besides Greer, there's a dozen other crumbs on it already. Let's do our job and dig for shit instead of wasting time asking the aliens to tell us. People are so easily misled.

>>4433594

Hell yeah Mang!!!! I'm on it!

>Why are aliens here?

>Why do they want to remain unknown?

>What interactions have they done with us?

>What questions should we be asking ourselves?

Now this is a great question. Why would British explorers travel to a remote island in the middle of the Pacific in a wooden boat? Well, the first time it is obvious. It is to see if there is some awesome unclaimed resource sitting there ripe for the taking! Now if they go to the island and it is a shitpile of sand and nothing useful they will scribble on the map and never come back. But what if it is covered in something AWESOME. Well, if that happens then we got a whole 'nother story. They are going to send word to the Queen and bring the whole fucking armada over to snag that resource. When I think about why aliens are here I wonder why they haven't simply come down here and taken what they want? I mean really! Why not? Its not like we could stop them. Not in any way that I understand. There must be a really fucking good reason.

My guess is that there is a law/rule/guide that these Galactics (I'll call them all Galactics) have to follow. Like the Star Trek prime directive. "NO INTERFERENCE in natural development until xyz happens". Now, I think perhaps some Galactic fucked this up and started dropping tech on us, (Nuclear Weapons come to mind) as does the Transistor. They then tried to cover it up as all of a sudden we start popping off nuclear bombs and really catching attention. So they got a great idea… LETS FIX IT they said! So we get these vague stories about treaties where the aliens can abduct us and stuff like that we get shot down UFO's and even more leaking tech causing troubles etc. I think we have been in the middle of first contact for like 100 years and someone seriously fucked it up on both the Alien side and on the human side. The aliens had absolutely no idea that our leaders were absolute scumbags and that they would hide the info. Hell, they probably never even KNEW that they hid the info and maybe even thought we were just stupid? So they mucked around giving us transistors expecting an explosion of free communication to fix the whole thing… The internet is basically what the transistor turns into in most cases so they tossed that out there… It made a world wide connectivity system but guess what ha ha! It was all called a CONSPIRACY and no one bought it.

Imagine how baffled the Aliens are at this point?! No fucking clue what to do. So then the "B squad" of first contact crews gets fired and a new boss shows up. Probably a VERY powerful and VERY experienced first contact "Fixer" species or group that has FAR more leeway to interact with us and fix fuckups. This is where we are today. This "A Team" has been working behind the scenes probably for 20 or 30 years with guys like Trump, perhaps the Kennedys, etc. They are far more aware of what the fuck is going on down here and finally have a way to fix it without violating a ?Prime Directive? type thing if that exists.

So all of this drama, if true means one thing… There is something valuable as fuck here. We don't know what exactly but whatever it is it is worth a colossal shit-ton of hard work and risk by these guys to fix the mess and, probably, welcome us into galactic civilization. I wonder what it is? Not technology. Not something gay like our culture. That is totally fucked and toxic. We have something. I seriously doubt it is something as simple as GOLD or even DNA. Nope. They could snag that stuff and we would never even know. Nope. There is some sort of value here and it is worth A LOT of trouble for these guys to access. Slavery comes to mind sadly… It really does and I hate to think about that.

It is very likely that they are here… and I don't mean just in orbit hiding in a cloaked ship or in the sky hiding in a cloaked ship. I mean H.E.R.E. Like we have probably talked with them. Worked with them or taken a piss in an airport next to them. I have been recently racking my brain asking myself have I ever met anyone who was … ?wrong? somehow? This is a major question that I have. Is there a way to identify these fuckers out on the street? Would we want to if we could?

>>4434565 Continued

Kyle Odom IMO is the flat-out best example of this. This guy shot some preacher like 10 times with a .45ACP. multiple head-shots and multiple body shots with a massive and powerful handgun. The preacer man, Remington FUCKING LIVED. Its amazing. Honestly I thought about trying to contact the preacher and talk with him but i'm a big pussy and don't want some fucking alien trying to kill me and my family. Kyle Odom didn't think much of the guy and obviously thought he was dangerous. Perhaps we should contact Kyle Odom? Write him a letter in prison or something and then post it here? Could be an interesting direction to go but it may get a SHITLOAD of heat as well. Any Alienanon out there with terminal cancer or 90 years old and gonna die anyway or something want to take this on? I got a wife and some little aliens of my own to think about.

>What are their capabilities?

This is tough. All we can do is watch UFO shit and speculate. Pretty obvious stuff is limitless energy, anti-gravity that is beyond even the most exotic physics that we have available. Likely some psychic thing that I can't even speculate on as I have never had any such experience of any kind ever.

In no way am I naive enough to think that ALL aliens are friendly. Also I am certain that ALL aliens are not bad guys. There are very few things that always are or are not "X" Usually things lie somewhere in between.

>>4358016

You sound good here. Logical. We have incoming soon.

>>4433594

Dude, wake up. It is happening, we have the Calvary coming, just hold on bud.

Enjoy the show.

>>4434575

I agree with some of your stuff, and on some we can agree to disagree until we have proof of X or Y.

I did however start to think about something pretty nasty when I read your post about them being here since that is what I myself believe too.

Let's create a hypothesis.

Humans are sentiment beings that can agree on things. Everybody should have somewhere to live, have something to eat, have water etc. sentiment beings that don't agree falls in a category of aliens and manipulated humans. We can say that they don't know better or that they believe in their religion to a point where they actually could slay a child because it "belongs" to another religion.

See where I'm going this this?

We are digging now.

What if, in that group, there exists aliens that we have met, how would we then know the difference from a manipulated human and an alien?

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Let me add some on to what you said about what they would see as valuable.

We would probably have no real understanding about that. They might be here because of X, but I would tend to agree with you that if they are here in the scale I believe they are and follow a protocol, then there are rules in place. And we are currently playing a game with rules we have no understanding about.

>>4434575

>>4435043

>>4434565

Interesting lines of thought anons.

I've been trying to follow the white rabbit for some time regarding the UFO phenomenon and have listened to damn near everyone trying to come to my own conclusion.

Considering some Majestic 12 files I perused that had an interview with a surviving EBE from Aztec crash in 48, the gist of the interview was that Tesla contacted the aliens while in Colorado in 1899 and were EXTREMELY surprised by his message and he was capable of sending it and sent a response in the early 1920s to some guy using his own code (said "V code" but I couldn't find anything in my searches) but got no response so they decided to make the trip to see what was going on and the first attempt was shot down in Roswell and luckily the EBE survived the second attempt in Aztec.

The EBE revealed that they have figured out gene editing and have prolonged lives, perhaps too long according to the one EBE, but that their particular group rarely took things seriously and have made contact with people thousands of years ago and that some legends still survive in the mythos of folklore of native people in the American Southwest along with the Maya, Aztec, Inca and other peoples. The EBE also said that they (his father) helped make a concrete pad some 112,000 years ago over by New Caledonia that is utterly unexplainable considering the technology and capabilities of the people at the time and that there are proofs of contact all around but the government signed a treaty forbidding open contact and set terms regarding abductions.

The EBE said that they were capable of living entirely in space and that they didn't need a planet to tether to for survival and that we were close to achieving the same in a relatively short amount of time and that our technological advances would basically be a quantum leap, considering this interview was conducted in the late 40s to early 50s…

Considering other digs into a Galactic Council/Federation that some talking heads have mentioned, all I can find seems to be fanfic, which I would add those "interviews" with someone claiming to be a high level source within the Cabal given permission to answer any questions the sheep may have, with some restrictions. Couldn't openly divulge information but if the right questions were asked you could pretty much get your answer provided it was within the scope of what they were allowed to answer.

The YT channel Spirit Science has some videos regarding Atlantis and Lumeria and the war with Mars and Male v Female energy and consciousness that seems to align with a lot of what I've discovered trying to follow the rabbit hole. Along the same vein as that channel and what Alex Jones has ranted on about regarding transdimensional lizard aliens that feed off of our energy… what if in some regard he was right?

I know he's a shill and controlled opposition but what if that was something he was releasing as a means of predictive programming/prepping the masses? There are legends of vampires and we know the importance blood is to the Cabal, what if there are transdimensional entities that are vampiric regarding negative emotions? Sort of the whole religions of angels vs demons, as well as the Sumerian creation legend with Enki and Enlil and the Annunaki and stuff. Super advanced aliens that have the capacity to control the elements, like Avatar's benders, and understand quantum stuff and know how to manipulate matter created humans from already evolving primates through genetic manipulation–multiple varieties for various purposes. The mating with one of them Enki/Enlil, I forget which, but basically Adam and Lilith vs Adam and Eve kind of thing, created a new species that was capable of so much more than their creator once their potential was unlocked and realized and have basically spent the last several thousand ages setting up their power and ruling?

We know the Cabal worships Marduk/Lucifer/Saturn, etc. and all of that was established during the Age of Taurus, which started around 4500BC and coincides with the emergence of Bull/Saturn idolatry and the child sacrifices. Then they really took hold during the Age of Aries, which started in 1800BC and was a time of great expansion and conquest and saw the emergence and expansion of the Egyptian, Chinese, Roman, Greek, and Persian empires as well as the transformation of Marduk/Saturn into Ra/Amun Ra.

And I just had an awesome moment of realization. The current astrological age is the Age of Pisces which started around 100BC to 100AD, lots of debate. Pisces is the fish which is associated with water but the following age is also associated with water (watch the water!?), the Age of Aquarius is associated with water, the death of gods/religion, and peace, sustainability, transparency, liberation, and technology.

When did the Age of Aquarius start?

2012

>>4434565

"V"

Water.

Reptilians.

>>4436494

>Water

Doubtful. If aliens want water, they can just harvest asteroids. Icy space rocks are floating around everywhere in the galaxy, and would supply fresh water more accessibly and in much greater quantities than sucking it up from down here in the gravity well.

>>4436698

I've heard from somewhere that they are after naturally magnetic rocks from the Earth's crust.

That, and the negative energy of suffering souls trapped in (wage)slavery and suffering.

>>4436698

This is one of the stupidest arguments I've ever heard.

Ice is mixed in with rock, which requires an extraction.

Not to mention whatever microbes are fresh frozen inside.

You are saying that is easier than coming down to ocean-sized lakes with fresh water?

Gravity well you say?

I thought at this point most people could believe that these craft are using anti-gravity and even trans-dimensional propulsion methods.

Gravity is irrelevant at that point.

So far your logic is illogical by my understanding.

Also, it's worth noting that in the book "Penetration" written by Ingo Swann, he's alleged to have been taken back to a remote lake in Alaska and watched a triangular craft materialize out of nowhere, then start to tap fresh water off a lake.

I would suggest to anyone to check out that book if you do not know about the underside of military operations.

So why would these beings scour a solar system for small chunks of water mixed with rock and microbes, which has to be melted and processed when they can simply fill up a tanker with fresh liquid water.

The amount of water present on asteroids as compared to earth is laughable.

It makes absolutely zero sense from any standpoint to hunt for it in space.

We have almost zero water to be found on any of the other planets in the solar system as well, considering the vast bulk of planetary mass is gas.

I do recall Greer saying similar things like this, that aliens wouldn't want earth for natural resources.

You're using the same thought process as Greer.

Which of course is a lie, as tens of thousands of years of human history points to a very different story.

(The gold mines of Enki for example)

>>4346268

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Its hidden everywhere on TV. The television show "V" is about reptilian aliens taking water from earth. It's very coincidental you know. I also find it interesting that a single poster just happens to pop up and quickly tell us that aliens would want nothing to do with earths water. Nope… That makes sense, considering we probably have 90% of the water of several solar systems around us combined.

I can only conclude your post is due to being near the target!

>>4434453

>>4434565

>>4434682

Count me in faggots.

I'm stepping up my game plan and will swindle some leadership and guide anons through the same growing pains I had looking for evidence. There's so much CounterInt out there, deliberate and non deliberate, so many hoaxers, so many people spinning he fake narrative.

What do we do in the lack of evidence? Discourse. Figuring out what don't know then working from there.

Let's spearhead this fucker for those anons that this is new to.

>>4436312

>>4437252

>>4437169

Good digging.

I will continue to spin the hypothesis.

As anon - 47c54f - said, the moment of realization is why we are here.

We have been digging after the white rabbit down into wonderland for years.

Lets say that we are onto something, then this thread is their biggest nightmare, since we are actually looking at new ways to try and understand this.

I have been thinking about the harvesting of energy things for a long time and I think that it might be what we are looking at.

If that is the case then of course they want us to believe that aliens are physical entities that are bipedal or some nasty looking thing.

The last thing they want us to think is that we can be be infected by them. Think about it, what if the hypothesis is right, and that we can see who is an alien just by asking them some basic questions. What if an "alien" is just a human that has been "infected" by the negative entity.

That would boggle the mind.

How would one protect from it?

Love?

Is it really that easy?

Is it an have always been vibrations?

I think that the only way we can get anywhere is to continue this way.

We have to use each other as ball planks where we throw ideas on and off each-other to get to the next realization.

When we hear that "we have more than we know", it's not related to politics imo.

If they are here for the water a video comes to my mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Moz82i89JAw

We are made up of about 60% water. What if we are not what we think we are.

What if we are water entities that they have made to believe are carbon based?

How powerful are we if we are able to affect our own body?

We would be more like Gods than what we think we are today.

What if they hijacked the law of one to discredit it with the help of mr. cock?

What if Terrance Mckenna was right with: http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Terence%20McKenna%20-%20Timewave%20Zero.pdf

<In our species it reaches its culmination and crosses over into a new domain where change no longer

<occurs in the atomic and biological machinery of existence; it begins to take place in the world that we

<call mental. It's called epigenetic change-Change that cannot be traced back to mutation of the

<arrangement of molecules inside long chain polymers, but change taking place in syntactical structures

<that are linguistically based.

We are by far the best research out there at the moment.

Keep digging.

About 25 years ago I had a run in with something I can't explain.

I went to the bar to go check out this beautiful bartender, it was a rainy weekday night. I walked into the bar and the poor girl was frozen in fear, almost catatonic. I ordered a true Margarita, she looked at me and looked at the only other person in the bar, a very odd looking guy at the other end. He had no hair at all and huge eyes, she gave me my true Margarita and I said down the bar and sat next to him. He was wearing clothes that were brand new, just bought, A grey members only jacket. I engaged him, he looked at me and became awash in fear, his huge eyes bugged out of his head and he recoiled…it is at this moment that the memories stop..

A few days later I go back to the same bar, two men sit on each side of me and say to the bartender,

" He'll have a true Margarita."

They go one to tell me that they work for a special unit of the USAF, I said my grandfather worked for the USAF, " We know" they said.

I ask them if they are ever going to tell the people the truth about aliens etc..They said they never will, the people can't handle it. It is at this moment these memories stop from being at the bar.

The next thing I remember is getting home and seeing what looks like a greenhouse full of lights in a clearing in the woods behind my place, a greenhouse with what looks like people sitting around a table. I say to myself, " That's odd Ive been hitting 7 irons into those woods for months I got lucky by not breaking any windows…"

I try to sleep but I am overcome with this strange vibration and a voice in my head saying.." Go downstairs, go down stairs"

I finally go down stairs, when I do a light turns on in the store across the street, a 4 ft tall grey is standing in the store and he raises an arm and the light goes off….

I remember saying, " Ok that's enough" and the memories end there.

The next day I packed up and went to live in my mothers barn and read every book I could on the matter.

These were not benevolent ayys , no doubt.

And that is my story of my drink with hybrid….

I don’t really know the truth for sure but my humble intuition is…. some of this theory above may have some accuracy that I resonate with, but when it comes to realizing the what the valuable asset is and why they are here to help and assist us. Its NOT some material thing, mineral etc. They are here to help rescue us from being enslaved and the negative power’s agenda to assimilate us as well as other unfortunate races and planets.

It is Us that is the asset, and our true God consciousness as a benevolent and Loving, Service to Others species - and the Goal is to help us graduate successfully from the 3rd dimension we are currently in into this higher spiritual level of 4th/5th dimension, which is the key to continued timely evolution connected to other universes, races, entities, dimensions, etc.

We are key in the Galactic Plan..

Unfortunately we have just been lost sheep for quite some time - but “sheep mo mo”. WWG1WGA. whitelight

>>4437721

Related to this….

>▶Anonymous 12/23/18 (Sun) 00:49:13 8dc471 (2) No.4434565

>>4437697

You could be right, you could be wrong.

Some of us have probably just been digging deeper than the surface and have a bigger vault of information so what you posted is something we have already looked at many times. And many of the people talking about it has been sketchy to say the least.

Think of it like this, if you really want to hide the truth you would make "truth" be so far from reality that people wouldn't even look at the material provided to them because it sounds so far fetched.

I would imagine that what we are currently exploring is something that many diggers have had in the back of their mind for a long time, but no actual research is being made into it, so we are taking things into our own hands. We need to try to understand what is going on. And most of the evidence is pointing to that we are living so far from reality that we need to go deeper.

The point is that your rabbit hole has been explored to the full extent imo.

And if that is the truth, Jesus is the way and don't enter the ships when they land.

They will try to have you use your own free will to enter the ships, don't.

Like I said, you might be right, or you could be looking at the disinformation that has been laid out to hide reality.

Keep digging anon.

>>4437169

Asteroid water mining is on the league of recovering hundreds of metric tons of water per asteroid, not "small chunks". And the processing tech involved is actually very simple. Essentially it's just scaled-up distillation, using mirrors to focus solar radiation to passively melt rocks and vaporize ice, which also separates out the water from impurities. The stars essentially generate water for you.

Aliens free to travel the galaxy don't need our water, they already have more than they need with even "less" expenditure of energy than bending gravity & dimensions. If aliens are using our water, it's likely merely out of convenience while they're here, and not the reason why they're here.

>>4437815

>or you could be looking at the disinformation that has been laid out to hide reality.

Which would be?

>>4438158

>Asteroid water mining is on the league of recovering hundreds of metric tons of water per asteroid, not "small chunks".

Could you please provide the sauce that we are doing this, or have proven the technology we have can do this? Just curious if there's some viable research backing what you're saying with some results or it's just conjecture and speculation?

Thanks!

>>4436018

interdasting …and a bit creepy

>>4437623

25 years ago… man, a lot has changed since that, and from what we know it's for the better.

>>4435043

>What if, in that group, there exists aliens that we have met, how would we then know the difference from a manipulated human and an alien?

So you are an alien… You are infiltrating a lower species. Think of it like some Anthropologist going to live with a remote tribe in Brazil with a brutal caste system (totally making this up). In this tribe, there are the HAVES and the HAVE-NOT's. Who would you want to be seen as by those tribesmen who you will be living amongst and studying? Would you want to be the lowest sewer-cleaning slave? Nope… You would want to be a High Priest who is immune to all laws. You would want to, at the very least, be separate from their system that imposes heavy personal restrictions on you. They may not want to go ALL THE WAY to the top though. The very top is a dangerous, risky and visible position. Easy to get tossed in the meat grinder by those below you.

I could see these aliens in positions like mid to upper level priests, primary resource owners or controllers of companies who own primary resources. Who owns the banks who own all the mineral rights in the country? Stuff like that. I think positions in the military would be very unappealing but positions in something like the SES (Senior Executive Service) of the DOD would be very appealing and may be a number one place to look.

I ask myself, what are the positions that are the safest, the most powerful and have the most personal freedom and resource availability for the least effort? Those are the places we should be looking. This is all based sadly on our human view of what is good and desirable. For all we know the Aliens may come from some stinky swamp and think the Sewer cleaning job is pure heaven… or have the mentality of the alien from the Predator movie and absolutely LOVE a position as a low ranking marine in combat. It iis really hard to know but my guess is if they are here they have some vague similarity to us and these broad sweeping strokes may be close to the mark.

>>4439169

There was reasoning behind it, but I think it's your English that's throwing me so I misunderstood your intent.

>Leave you ego somewhere else, please.

Okay. Lead on.

>You already know about how the work with symbols, but why do they use symbols?

Communication to ingroup and outgroup. Offsetting karmic reaction.

>What are symbols?

Sigil Magic. Focus of Intent. Icons of authority.

>Just because you have a spiderweb doesn't mean that you have the spider.

Pindar reported to someone or something.

Where's Lovecraft fit in?

>aliens are X

There are MANY varieties of extraterrestrials out there both human, humanoid and non humanoid, good or evil.

>>4436957

That sounds like the "Loosh Farm" Theory. Its actually a pretty fun read if you can find it all. It was originally a drop on halfch if memory serves and was some guy who claimed to be a Rothchild? and that we are all here getting the screws put to us so we suffer and our suffering generates Loosh, a psychic drug that the aliens need to live. The elites/illuminati are given things like tech and information to keep them in power so they can keep farming us. Kinda like the British system of colonization where they give guns to the weakest most oppressed tribes and they capture and control all others using that tech but its the Brits who ultimately control the ammo. Meh.. Maybe. I only vaguely think the above is likely. Reminds me of a Dolph Lundgren movie from the 80s called "I come in peace"

>>4437169

As for the water thing… How about they just do all this in Antarctica and ignore us?

Also, any source of Hydrogen and Oxygen will make water. I just don't think it is uncommon enough to hassle us for it.

>>4437623

That shit is pretty scary actually. Yeah I don't know about any of that. I have never had any experience that I would say is otherworldly. Seen a few things that defied physics though which is much of what has brought me here.

>>4437721

But WHY? What the hell good is some bag-o-meat that is weak and gets sick and dies and stuff? If you have massive anti-gravity ships and limitless energy its not like you need some slave with a shovel to dig a hole or something. I think it is something else entirely. I think finding out what our value is to the Galactics is paramount to us dealing with them.

For all we know the Universe is ruled by boring serious accountant types and their highest cause of death is suicide. Maybe they are here for our humor and comedy? :p Who knows? If we can nail that then we will be well on our way to dealing with them fairly.

Here is one of the reasons (one of many) that I believe the facts point to the whole UFO being more phenomena than physical and that phenomena being intimately tied to people of a certain type. In one of the links below you will find the NY Times article about the 'tic-tac' aircraft episode from 2004 (USS Nimmizt carrier group and USS Princeton). The second link is the released Pentagon Executive report on the incident. It is 13 pages long, but please read it carefully as this lays out exactly what occurred. None of the reports filed regarding this incident were classified because they were on a final training mission before deploying to the Saudi Arabian peninsula - and training missions are never classified.

In the Pentagon Executive Report you will find that with the 5 people that were sent out on F/A-18 aircraft to intercept and investigate, their experiences were not the same.

One saw the water disturbance and the AAV hovering over the water;

One saw the water disturbance only;

one saw the object via FLIR camera but could not see it with his eyes;

One saw the AAV only;

One saw nothing.

A submarine in the area picked up no water disturbance.

The FLIR recording can be viewed at the Times article link.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html

https://media.lasvegasnow.com/nxsglobal/lasvegasnow/document_dev/2018/05/18/TIC%20TAC%20UFO%20EXECUTIVE%20REPORT_1526682843046_42960218_ver1.0.pdf

>>4440600

>There was reasoning behind it, but I think it's your English that's throwing me so I misunderstood your intent.

Second language.

>Communication to ingroup and outgroup. Offsetting karmic reaction.

>Sigil Magic. Focus of Intent. Icons of authority.

I would say that it's pretty magical to lead an entire planet to your end goal, by rule, and leave your symbols out in the open as communication.

Here's the kicker that I have found to be quite "illuminating" - pun intended -, most people are doing it by their free will.

We all have a free will, you could look at it from a religious perspective or just as a fact.

I choose not to hurt others, I choose not to kill.

Some of what J. Peterson is re-branding from C. Jung. It's our choice.

I can choose to do evil, I can choose to act like an asshole when I'm online.

You get my drift.

But as soon as we see the "game", most of us start to act better. Why?

I can't say that goes for everybody but I would think that it has something to do with the fact that they are evil and that must mean that we should be good.

But then comes the question; what's good and evil?

Is it a good thing to kill 10 babies to save a 100 babies? and so on?

Were should our intent be?

In my opinion we should intend to help everybody, even those who don't fully grasp what they are playing yet.

We are facing a task that seems impossible without help since more than 40% - just picked a number from the nothingness - of the world would die to defend "the system".

One thing Alex Collier said that blew my mind back in the day; why do we pay to live on a planet we were born on?

How do we even get other people to think outside "the system"?

Why do "they" want us to take drugs, drink alcohol and have sex?

Why don't "they" want us to sit down and philosophy and look around the world?

>Pindar reported to someone or something.

>Where's Lovecraft fit in?

The Marquis de Libeaux and the whole Arizona Wilder stuff is something I have not looked at since way back. It could be something there or it might not.

When I read about it my understanding was that Pindar - The Marquis de Libeaux - would have to be Lucifer, personified. And if Lucifer is a reptilian that has fooled the "cabal" is something I can't answer.

But my take on that was that IF Lucifer was NOT reptilian, then Jesus is King.

I do think we are getting away from the current objective a bit though.

What if symbols are the aliens vessels?

What if people actually feed them energy when they watch music videos and support their brands?

What if they inhabit something that we can't see, but share with them?

>>4441111

Nice tripquad.

I would tend to agree that this is connected to something else than the physical.

But why?

Why would someone see it when someone else can't see it?

Do you have any ideas? I have a few, but need to gather thoughts.

>>4441398

All I have are rumors, rumors of a genetic marker and a fine brain area in those that can see and experience these things. It may have to do with the way consciousness interacts on a quantum level with reality. Shroedinger's cat stuff.

>>4441261

>Second language.

Fair enough. Please accept my apology, anon.

>>4441261

"The matrix"

Now you're getting in to things I have seen explored in the past here.

>why do we pay to live on a planet we were born on?

>How do we even get other people to think outside "the system"?

>Why do "they" want us to take drugs, drink alcohol and have sex?

>Why don't "they" want us to sit down and philosophy and look around the world?

"Keep them starved. Keep them blind. Keep them stupid."

>What if symbols are the aliens vessels?

In the sense that they're conduits for energy transmission in quantum form?

(I have a hypothesis that Obelisks might be spiritual antenna, much like a church's spire.) Because I don't think you're telling me you think the Vatican itself is an alien ship. Or that the Chevron logo is a way for them to travel. Or are you?

>What if people actually feed them energy when they watch music videos and support their brands?

In what manner? In that passive mind control generates certain energy for feeding (ie: fear, negativity), or that the act of watching and thinking a thing is real in enough numbers makes it so?

>What if they inhabit something that we can't see, but share with them?

Sure. Other dimensions. A Nexus area.

>>4441398

>Why would someone see it when someone else can't see it?

Their technology is out of this world, so moving somewhere extremely fast or cloaking/decloaking is a breeze. Sometimes you have a split second to see something. Vid semi-related.

>>4441261

>What if symbols are the aliens vessels?

>What if people actually feed them energy when they watch music videos and support their brands?

>What if they inhabit something that we can't see, but share with them?

https://megalodon.jp/2018-0610-0734-14/dailyanarchist.com/forum/index.php?topic=3289.0

Read this post, it gives insight into the matter that may answer these questions.

>>4442307

>“I am one, but may I become many?” == WWG1WGA?

Certainly sounds that way if you look at it in the metaphysical sense.

>What if it's not rumors. What if something really happens to us when we start to see the game that is being played?

Such as? I'm curious as to your thoughts on this.

>A magician can only fool you as long as you don't know the trick.

>It's actually a scary thought if they feed of our emotions/consciousness.

Emotional parasites in the literal sense.

>Then reptilians/shapeshifters could be them doing something to our consciousness?

Do you mean the perception of reptilians is caused by the other entities - driving us towards a primal fear - in order to feed?

>>4443060

>Such as? I'm curious as to your thoughts on this.

If it's physical or just mental is beyond me since I don't know enough about the human body's chemistry.

Mentally though, I can try to be as honest as I dare.

I can only speak from myself and what I experience as reality, which can differ from person to person.

I am more conscious of my choices and sometimes it feels as if I'm directly involved with the world.

I think I can feel suffering on a higher level if you could say so.

I get "touched" by small things.

Beauty is not what I thought it was, it can be another person doing something nice for someone else.

I dream of a Utopia that won't come until we all live in harmony with one another.

My point is that what if we actually CAN rewire our brains?

And that it just happens in an instant when we see behind the curtain.

The game that is being played couldn't bother me since I know who I am and the man in the mirror is smiling back.

I'm a good person.

I just feel sorry for all the people that are still playing.

And I need to add that I was a real asshole once, a sheep in the literal sense.

It just changed from one day to another.

>Do you mean the perception of reptilians is caused by the other entities - driving us towards a primal fear - in order to feed?

Or just to keep the "illusion" of "the others" alive?

I honestly don't know.

I do know that raping/killing children creates the biggest suffering/fear I can imagine.

>>4440732

Sauce on that. There are statements and stories about various types of alien. There is very little proof at all though on any of them. It could be that there is a single one type and all the others are chaff to throw us off. It could be that there are a vast quantity of them, so many that they would be like nationalities here on earth. Hard to tell the difference between French and German and British unless you are one of us.

>>4440539

Agreed.

How would we know if race X is aliens?

Would they ever tell us?

The fact that we don't know anything about them makes it so much harder to try to figure out how they would think in these kinds of situations.

>>4443646

No, I think they would have to be 99% external from us.

I think they can influence us. Saying more than that would be to say I know the truth, which I don't.

I don't really know how they can influence us. I don't even know if we are being influenced right now.

I don't even know if I'm barking down the right tree.

There could be physical aliens and they could serve the higher dimensional ones.

I honestly have no idea.

>>4442307

>What if it's not rumors. What if something really happens to us when we start to see the game that is being played?

That part is not rumor. It is known that our immune system keeps a record of anything that affects it. That is how we acquire immunity from bacteria and viruses, but also there is a genetic record of at least some of the anomalous events - if you are injured. That is just a function of the white cells and how they "learn."

That is not the genetic marker I was talking about. No sauce on this except from the UFO researchers who are basically quoting each other. Allegedly, Dr. Nolan (Nolan Labs) working with Dr. Puthoff and Dr. Green have taken DNA samples from Uri Geller, Ingo Swann, one of the distance viewing guys (sorry can't remember which one) and from a number of people that witnessed AAV's or had 'alien' contact. From these DNA samples they were able to isolate the same DNA marker that was present in each of them and not present in the normal, non-experiencer population. The fine brain area they identified and which they call 'the antenna' is also present in the same population and absent from normal populations.

For further information on these topics, you can find Grant Cameron videos from this past Spring on youtube.

>>4443790

This genetic marker, I am told, is not a change, but is present from birth.

>>4440732

>>4443350

You thinking Emery Smith?

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/698574/Emery-Smith-aliens-ET-UFOs-space-US-military

>>4439169

>If you were the aliens, wouldn't you spread so much disinformation that it all just loops back to itself?

This is a good point. Directly understanding consciousness processes requires a sorting of information. Literally of the bodily nature, mental nature and in social combinations

>>4438158

>And most of the evidence is pointing to that we are living so far from reality that we need to go deeper.

Solid observation. There is a solvable problem of credibility in subjective experience. Reich's function of orgasm and subsequent research into orgone, quite interests me

>>4437721

>I don’t really know the truth for sure but my humble intuition is…

It seems to me we participate using our understanding of what is true to discover the truth.

>>4437169

>I thought at this point most people could believe that these craft are using anti-gravity and even trans-dimensional propulsion methods

I think consciousness structures reality not the other way around. Truncated understandings of reality without necessary openness to evaluate your biases perturbs

>>4441261

>I would say that it's pretty magical to lead an entire planet to your end goal, by rule, and leave your symbols out in the open as communication. Here's the kicker that I have found to be quite "illuminating" - pun intended -, most people are doing it by their free will.

Hmmm, This is pretty interesting. The breadth of symbolized concepts and their association within society as a method of control? Most people have pretty short attention spans. What if with 10 or so generations of planning you could select the 2,000-3,000 word people tends to use to navigate the world. Technology could distract people political theater could make it so people don't bother to care

>>4443811

>>4443790

Are you thinking of the channeled information from Barbara Marciniak (and all the takeoffs) and Lee Carroll about the way bodies change as perspective increases?

http://www.kryon.com/CHAN2017/k_channel17_montreal.html

http://www.pleiadiannetwork.com/2013-pleiadian-channelings/eclipse-of-the-sun-solutions-are-in-the-pipeline/

https://www.tokenrock.com/explain-pleiadians-138.html

https://higherdensity.wordpress.com/2018/12/20/lisa-transcendence-brown-your-dna-is-evolving-changing-your-genetics-your-entire-physical-make-up-in-order-to-evolve-your-whole-physical-reality-12-18-18/

https://higherdensity.wordpress.com/2018/01/18/barbara-marciniak-bringers-of-the-dawn-teachings-from-the-pleiadians-1-18-18/

Or are you thinking of the predictive or trauma marker?

https://onstellar.com/blogs/41858/UFO-Underground-No-1-A-Genetic-Marker-Has-Been-Identified

https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2016/06/11/why-alien-abductions-are-down-dramatically/qQ3zdBIc2tLAf3LVms8GLP/story.html

>>4441732

>Obelisks might be spiritual antenna

I think you are right, and I would like to add more to this theory.

I also came to this hypothesis after doing some research into the 'electric universe' and vibrational/sonic healing. Obelisks and pyramids are used in crystal healing at the center of crystal/stone grids. These grids are composed of quartz crystals or other healing stones arranged in sacred geometrical patterns like the 'flower of life' or pentagons, hexagons, etc.. The grids are said to combine the vibrational energies of the crystals while the obelisk/pyramid at the center projects the combined energies around the healer. They are also said to aid in projecting thought-form vibrations out into the cosmos.

This is getting into realms of stuff that is considered absolute nonsense - which even further sparks my curiosity. The above information is from crystal healing books and a talk with the owner of my local metaphysical store, but its pretty out in the open. Seems like some Project Mockingbird strategies may be at work.

What really interests me is the use of stone monoliths and obelisks in Washington DC. If remember correctly, things like the Washington Monument and other points of interest are even arranged in geometrical patterns. Hopefully another anon can provide an info-graphic about DC aerial views. I wonder if some masonic teachings are about the building and use of pyramids and obelisks as 'spiritual antennae'.

Even weirder (and what made me post this) is the recent theories from anons on the main bread about DUMBs under Arlington. I remember reading an anon speculate that the soldiers buried there could be acting as sources of demonic energy for the elites due to the 'sacrificial' nature of their deaths.

So basically I am supposing that the Washington Monument could be acting as a 'spiritual antenna' in combination with other stone monuments and the ritual sacrifice of American soldiers to form some kind of malevolent energy generator/projector or shield or loosh antenna or God knows what.

I'm sorry I cannot make a more complete post, but I believe there is definitely more to this.

>>4444368

You thinking of War Drummer's analysis?

https://youtu.be/mJyYEPGQaZI

https://youtu.be/skAZs8LJ_BA

>>4444488

checked

>>4444488

Ahh thank you for those videos. I figured this couldn't have been a novel idea. Haven't seen them before, but I will give them a watch tonight. Cheers

>>4443896

Are you thinking of the slightly SciFi but thought provoking short story by Asimov?

Specifically the section starting with Zee Prime?

http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html

>>4444519

Am I correct in assuming that you have 'checked' that my behavior is apparently human in nature, and not robotic?

>>4437623

"The people can't handle it" seems to be the excuse for all times. Which is why "in the end the choice to know will be yours" - Q is B.S. Q is B.S.! There has been no transparency or truth exposed about anything, since the start of the Q psyop. What a lie!

Legit question regarding advanced technology:. Why hasn't Troy Hurtubise been more successful with his inventions of seeing through walls, detecting stealth planes, cleaning biohazard areas, etc? I know he's dead now, but his inventions still live.

>>4450156

Are you thinking of the MIB bench scene?

https://youtu.be/WPMMNvYTEyI

Or are you thinking of Nicholson?

https://youtu.be/PWSx0bBiNIs

Perhaps thinking about the Key Stone may help?

https://youtu.be/In-p_xnAfBo

Where we go one, we go all.

All for one, and one for all.

The needs of the many outnumber the needs of the few?

https://www.theobjectivestandard.com/2013/09/spocks-illogic-the-needs-of-the-many-outweigh-the-needs-of-the-few/

Are you considering the end state?

https://www.urantia.org/worship-and-wisdom/part-ii-local-universe?term=Light%7Cand%7Clife#155._WORLD_STATUS_IN_LIGHT_AND_LIFE

Don't believe? Don't believe what?

Coordination between the President and this QAnon movement?

https://www.qproofs.com

Information is being disseminated that is helping people cope with uncertainty?

https://8ch.net//qresearch/res/382018.html#382435

>>4451441

Here is a basic exercise:

Right now in front of your computer turn your head 180 degrees around to view with your eyes the front half of your room. Do so slowly and as you go through memorize intensely any object that catches your attention, remember its position and shape. When you feel confident enough, slowly turn your head again 180 degrees as you did before but this time with your eyes closed; as you do so try to recreate in your mind the room as you saw with your eyes open, using this time your sole imagination. Try to remember the objects you memorized before and attempt to place them as precisely as you can in your mind's eye. Open your eyes to verify.

The next step is to try view the same room and objects with your eyes closed, without turning your head around. It must be fixed in place, only your mind's eye turns around as it recreates the room.

Open your eyes and verify. Don't worry if your imagination creates visual artifacts of any kind, simply focus on the room.

When you feel confident enough, the step afterwards is to try turn your mind's eye 360 degrees all around you to view the rest of the room that is behind your head, without having seen it with your open eyes beforehand. See what you see with your mind, perhaps you might identify large objects such as furniture. Don't worry if you feel like it is your memory doing the work for you, it is partly intentional.

If it is your first time, you might not be able to spot small objects. You might see the foggy contour of large pieces of furniture and nothing else, but that is a very good step forward. Turning your mind's eye 360 may also prove uneasy, physically it would mean snapping your neck, it is obvious it is not a natural movement, which is why it is part of the exercise.

Finally, try to use your mind's eye to explore the room… without being fixed to your head. Simply take the jump with your imagination and start floating around the room you recreated. Try see your physical body from an outside perspective as it stands (or rather sits) in the room. Explore the hidden corners of your room over shelves, behind furniture, within furniture. Try going to the next room, maybe your bathroom, see what you can see.

You are free to go wherever you want now. All you have to do is to trust in yourself, be armed with a healthy dose of cynicism if you're afraid to lose your sanity and verify with your open eyes if you feel too insecure.

Easy as that. Some people have a talent for it, but every person who practices every night in their bed before falling asleep, for one month, will become VERY proficient at it.

If enough anons gather, we could start exploring the Moon and share stories.

>>4444368

Are you thinking of the star maps, as above so below?

https:// goo. gl /images/ xqGXas

What happens if you invert this image?

Do you get stuff like?

https://www.ancient-code.com/egyptian-star-map/

>>4451666

>>4451441

Are you thinking of Targ and over the target?

https://youtu.be/FI_01m-6L30

>>4452689

Apologies, that was dumb of me. I should have asked a more thought provoking question.

Why are humans only conscious for around 1/3-1/4 of each second?

https://www.inverse.com/amp/article/51923-humans-are-wired-to-be-distracted-each-second

Could it have something to do with the nature of light moving through a medium?

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20170215-the-strange-link-between-the-human-mind-and-quantum-physics

Might something like this answer the question posed by anon at?

>>4443463

Might this also partially explain Pentagon Executive Report identified by this anon?

>>4441111

Or the repeatability issues identified by this anon looking at some research?>>4450230

Perhaps, but how do we monetize this?

And I don't mean it in the crass shill sense, I mean it in the sense of making use of quantum states of superposition, or whatever this turns out to be if I'm not sliding us too far off course, in the real everyday 3D world.

>>4320496

>>4335385

One Universe, One People

The term extraterrestrial Intelligence (ETI), so curiously nondescript, wonderfully lends itself to these concepts of unity. Regardless of planet, star system or galaxy of origin, and no matter how diverse, ETIs are, essentially, intelligent, conscious, sentient beings. Humans are essentially intelligent, conscious, sentient beings. We are, essentially, one. On this basis, we may speak of one people inhabiting one universe, just as we now envision one people as children of one planet. Differences are always a matter of degree, but true unity established in consciousness is absolute. The beings currently visiting earth from other planets, while no doubt different from humans in both superficial and more profound ways, are nevertheless conscious intelligent beings. Consciousness is the basis for both human and extraterrestrial existence and is therefore the foundation for unity and communication between the various people of the universe. Beliefs may vary, biological processes may vary, assorted capacities may vary, social systems and technology may vary – but the simple thread of conscious intelligence which runs through all peoples elegantly weaves our unity. This essential unity is not subject to the trials of diversity, for it is pure, immutable and fundamental to the existence of intelligent life itself.

>>4451666

Nice mental excercise anon, thanks.

>>4457536

Something feels very larpy about your posts fren.

Could you post some sauce and proofs?

"Thoth Anon" has already been done before by the way.

Kinda late to that party…

>>4457689

Sorry but it doesn't matter if it's me or someone else or whatever. We're all anonymous here, I'm posting Thoth just for personal preference, kind of how you'd post a pair of boobs if you really liked those titties.

I'm not sure what to give you, all I care about is that the remote viewing project happens.

You can obviously see it with extreme cynicism and you'd be right to do so, you don't have to participate or believe in it.

It's just a fun project for those willing to try.

>>4457689

Here you go. Do secret MIL and 3letter projects deal with larps?

https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniabulletin/article/43/1/84/2511864

Be careful what to believe.

Remote viewing, CE5, telepathic communication, all of it could be an exploitation of psychotic continuum.

> Defining the Psychosis Continuum. The psychosis continuum encompasses a full range of psychotic symptom expressions from sub-syndromal or “subclinical” manifestations to the clinically significant psychotic symptoms typically observed in individuals diagnosed with a psychiatric illness.

Your brain has Neuro plasticity, which means it can be manipulated and formed depending how you use it. People in mental health use this to get rid of their mental illness by forcing a thought or idea to help them interpret the world differently.

What the fuck do you think is going to happen if you keep imagining talking to aliens? What's going to happen to your brain once you convince yourself you can talk to aliens? That idea will get cemented and become a core belief, and unsubstantiated at that.

That's why you have CE5 fags swearing on their mothers grave they seen orbs. Thats why they're pleading with you to believe them.

It's like a virus that tears you away from rational thought.

Anons, we need to take this shit seriously if we want to find the truth.

We need to find FACTS online and discuss them.

We need to STOP theorizing when we have nothing to base it on.

We need to discuss about the validity of evidence we find online, NOT the validity of your theory.

We need to put personal opinion on the back burner and discuss evidence people put forward.

Present proof for CE5, don't try to convince others how to do it.

Present proof of remote viewing.

Present proof of energy bullshit.

We need to have critical thought in a field of research that has an active and extensive counter INT Op on it.

Elaborate claims must have elaborate evidence.

Let's work with

>>4462708

Literally 1 post above you, friend

>>4462636

>>4462760

Ha! One out of how many? Don't take it so personal, this wasn't meant for you.

>>4320496

Proof of human initiated contact with ETI

>>4464048

>human initiated contact

Proof of multiple dynamic IP's used by single poster with exact same syntax and phrases.

>>4464363

>Did everyone see the slide away from the Vatican? And now CE-5 and related CSETI are creeping back in?

This is by far the most shilled thread I have ever seen on here.

No surprise, as it was created by shills…

>>4462708

>Be careful what to believe. Remote viewing, CE5, telepathic communication, all of it could be an exploitation of psychotic continuum.

Pretty interesting. Been studying orgone. When we socialize with each other we define the game. Using the word, 'game', seems unappreciative of the breadth of life. However, consider the value of individual expression in a collective landscape. There are many exchanges we all partake in over the course of a day each with a commensurate role.

Rituals have normalized certain dynamics of stimulus and response

What if logic was appreciating infinity, which can be done endlessly, and the outcome being orgasm seeks to merge to reform the ability to appreciate infinity? Seems to me there is already the biological mechanism in place. The social could then be a product of it.

>>4462636

ESP follows the same line of thought. Social reckoning of possibility buttresses semi-biases as to the conditioning processes of outcomes or ,at a more local level, abilities.

>>4468553

Oh Yeah, eat a bagful of dicks ebot cause meesa can string together better shiznit than thou you 486 wanna be

>>4420449

People have been chasing rabbits since Roswell. U can chase rabbits ad infinitum or u can download the ET Contact Tool app and start making contact today.

>>4320490 CSETI.org

Center for the study of Extraterrestrial intelligences

>>4468333

Good counterpoint.

Are you thinking of the importance of search and recovery (the hunt) in social interactions?

Walking on a Dream https://g.co/kgs/ggzDEE

Is our species designated to objectify the universe around it?

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150408-the-truth-about-magpies

Or are you meaning this much more literally as in the Turning Test?

https://youtu.be/lFIW8KphZo0

Q does invite (adversaries|us) to play a game using "War Games" language.

For myself, I'm always trying to avoid karma as much as possible. This means that "Rituals [which] have normalized certain dynamics of stimulus and response" are very important to ensuring a steady state without infringing on others, even at the risk of "being acted upon" myself.

I'm afraid we're still in religious beliefs argumentation here because the prior post (materialist) is fully entrenched in the idea that this single reality in which we spend so much of our walking time is the only true baseline whereby to measure one's sanity.

It is agreed (both with you and the prior post) that to interact with this society and this "real" world, certain interfaces are necessary. But are they necessarily the only interfaces that must exist?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/living-in-a-quantum-world/

https://www.scienceandnonduality.com/webinars/down-the-rabbit-hole-living-in-a-quantum-world/

So again, goes my question, or concern:

How do we benefit from our quantum natures in any given reality we find ourselves?

Sounds like the metaphysicians and philosophers and even the priests all seem to say that experiences and choices and personality traits (like preferences) are the way to make use of alternate realities.

Sauce:

Christianity - be excellent to each other (even if historically you may not have been, you can change) and party on dudes

Greer - be excellent to each other (ET brothers and sisters) and party on dudes.

Law of One - be excellent to each other (because past 6th density, service to self and service to others is the same) and party on dudes

https://youtu.be/N_yJFLvmjJY

I could literally list billions of examples of I had the energy.

The QAnon alternate reality is very interesting, a little concerning given the apparent delta… It relies on the same "trust the plan" that any religion does.

However, there's truth to be found anywhere we look. And due to Q and the anons, I'm seeing what I believe to be a mess under the rocks in our front yard and in the corners of our collective species' homes.

Should we clean the edges and leave the mess in the center of the room in full display?

Sauce: Truth is beauty and beauty truth.

>>4468915

>Are you thinking of the importance of search and recovery (the hunt) in social interactions?

No, that's too narrow

>How do we benefit from our quantum natures in any given reality we find ourselves?

I have a slight problem to what most people mean by quantum. Let's say experience is cyclical and awareness as a catalyst moves outward. Let's pretend then quantum is the inner, hollowed experience. Upon reducing an inner experience by recollection of a definite cycle one eventually finds irreducible static or noise. These functions eventually have significant influence on outward expansion of consciousness much like emotional complexes

>Sounds like the metaphysicians and philosophers and even the priests all seem to say that experiences and choices and personality traits (like preferences) are the way to make use of alternate realities.

Agree overall

>However, there's truth to be found anywhere we look

There is something true to be found anywhere because the nature of truth is reality. Truth is not readily apparent.

>Should we clean the edges and leave the mess in the center of the room in full display?

Don't care

>>4469350

Not even going to try to pretty this up, haven't lurked enough to be any good.

'I have a slight problem to what most people mean by quantum. Let's say experience is cyclical and awareness as a catalyst moves outward. Let's pretend then quantum is the inner, hollowed experience. Upon reducing an inner experience by recollection of a definite cycle one eventually finds irreducible static or noise. These functions eventually have significant influence on outward expansion of consciousness much like emotional complexes.'

I'm a little confused. Perhaps contributing to a slide - if so, sorry.

I read the above as an algorithm for describing the learning process: "process of acquiring new, or modifying existing, knowledge, behaviors, skills, values, or preferences"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning

What you did was add the concept of a monitor - you called it "awareness" - and plopped on the decision-pressures function - you called it 'static or noise' - in order to explain why people try and when they give up. This seems to explain one way of expanding consciousness.

All true. That is very serial.

Let's take your cycle and run it simultaneously across the entire space in which personal energy, decision-making, and interests interplay. And then do that for every possible conceivable and inconceivable set.

In your model, awareness expands outwards through iterations, subject to satisfaction limits, or static/noise acceptability, within a single serial stream of consciousness.

It is agreed that in the 'real world' I'm limited by energy and time to comb through the probability tree for something relevant to my real world problem to bring back and execute on.

However, I'm suggesting you're seeing a bunch of anons who are spiritualists (think CE-5 or intra-dimensional ET-ers) struggling with a bunch of anons who are materialists (think 'it's all in your mind' like the target you initially responded to or 'imagination is virtually meaningless' like a prior target you responded to or 'I'll believe when you show me real sauce based on papers and scientific journals'). You can see something of my conflicted bias right there.

I'm coming to the conclusion that we need to iterate across not just the experiential loop we happen to be 'walking' but also put some effort into expanding our awareness across multiple realities (timelines, events streams, cultures). That can be done by reading books and watching TV, or by imagining a nice bed time story.

Doing this is a way to accomplish all kinds of things if you can maintain your grip on reality enough to keep eating.

When I say quantum, I mean dropping out of reality to a differently normal reality. Or skipping a rock over a pond of possibilities and detecting the ripples.

That would explain all kinds of phenomena that this board is talking around.

Over the target?

>>4469901

When more people can see auras the gap between 'materialists' and 'spiritualists' will narrow.

It is a firm belief most people are caught within a challenging set of beliefs and don't see the light at the end of the tunnel, of sorts.

>>4470746

A friend had an encounter with a spiritual person recently and it takes time to even let your old beliefs be challenged.

In many situations those that proclaim themselves to be the pinnacles of logic and reason can be the most irrational, blind people around.

>>4390733

I am fine, thanks… I got a brand new girlfriend and she has been preoccupying most of my time… Which is good bc I've grown so cynical in the past two years I nearly forgot how to love anything that originated from this good forsaken barbaras dungeon of a planet.

BTW Only shills call me greerfag and that is because they can't debunk human initiated contact as an idea so they attack people within the movement

>>4343341

I won't bow down to threats or intimidation.

I think someone here is trying to impersonate me. Not sure if I should be impressed or annoyed. Merry Christmas Anons.

>>4405893

>https:// twitter.com/JimSnowww/status/1074581662678347776?s=19

What you see going by is an illuminated feature on the surface of the earth.

>>4482643

Cultural interpretation: Mass Effect: Andromeda. Species of artificial life created to protect certain places, timelines, and things.

Veiled reference: 90% of the references made publicly, even in the chans are veiled. This is likely a veiled reference to a hoped for association between Trump and 'others': https://www.amazon.com/Remnants-Gods-Visual-Influence-France/dp/1601632835.

Very literally this is arguing 'as above so below' in that this election is the continuation of a struggle between two ways of looking at humanity and her freedom.

Note that the Q Collective is also a popular sci find reference. http://aliens.wikia.com/wiki/Q. Which could be used to further legitimize Q in the minds of steeply indoctrinated.

However when asked how does Q know so much the response was 'control', which may mean there is either extensive military planning or some form of external interference, above the normally wizarding level, that was brought to bear (on the order of the Q Collective).

Speculation: My own personal observation, alien or not, until POTUS was fully locked into his course, he was surrounded by very aesthetically pleasing female forms. I don't think that was mystique (intentionally playing to his base) on his part nor does the costs of running consistent honey trap (intentionally controlling POTUS mind set and ideas using leverage/blackmail) across so many areas of his daily experience seem consistent with adversarial behavior. Instead, under the alien hypothesis the Q Collective, these remnants, may have been monitoring his installment and reducing initial transition friction with this selection of aides who were slowly removed over the course of the first two years.

Even though my words are not intended harmful, I certainly hope this is a truly anonymous forum.

>>4320488

>Welcome to the most heavily shilled thread on /Qresearch/.

Far more relevant and interesting than digs from fake news sources about a fake investigation of a fake subject, that may never end.

>>4486264

>>4486920

>This is about an idea, not about people.

>Unless it's We, The People!

What did Q say about fake patriotism, Famefag?

Entire thread is designed to keep drawing attention to Greer and CE-5.

You keep proving this with your own reverse psychology.

This wasn't designed to focus on actual research.

There is absolutely no need for the repeated self promotion.

Authority complex has revealed itself several times.

Every time you do this you distance yourself from Anons.

You distance yourself from anyone who may have taken you seriously.

>>4488062

Excerpt: Chalice of Pleiades, opening page 3/2015

Beholden not

to the quest at hand

the forerunner of Destiny’s unfoldment.

I bring to the fore a promise

a golden dream from long-forgotten chasms

the Chalice of Hope

the Holiest Grail

Cup of Remembrance.

Drink deep from the well of Truth’s memory

your reward to be knighted as true soldiers of seeking.

Lay upon the table now your weapon of old

for the battle of realities to take hold

this world of worlds cannot be denied

and all hearts pure in the knowing arrive.

@kabamur_taygeta twitter account is now reactivated.

He is a Pleiadian contactee.