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 No.326694

All right niggers, let's talk the finale. We were in exile when this shit happened so we didn't get a chance to talk about it at the time. What's the verdict?

I fucking liked it, nonwithstanding a few horrifying implications that arise when you think about it. The adventure two-parter was climactic and dramatic the whole way through, and the slice of life third part was peak CPDCT. I'll be honest with you, I fucking cried like a little bitch when they shut that fucking book at the end.

Anyway I'm just gonna go the rest of my life believing that Cozy Glow was an irredeemable psychopath who was beyond all help, most of the >everycreatures in the 10 years later sequence are only in Ponyville on temporary student visas, doing chores together does not make Applejack and Rainbow Dash gay, and that Pony Life isn't happening. How are you coping with the end of all things, /pone/?

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 No.326696

Epilogue was shit and the two-parter was rushed

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 No.326697

Cozy Glow did nothing wrong

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 No.326702

The finale was handled about as well as it could be, I suppose.

I was very let down but not at all surprised when it was revealed that Discord's plan was absolutely retarded as usual. When it was leaked that Grogar was Discord, I felt sure that he was actually trying to trick the villains into cooperating so they could learn the magic of friendship and eventually make peace with the ponies. The episode where the villains actually started cooperating to find the bell seemed to lend credence to this theory, too. I would have been very pleased had the show managed to pull off something like that. But of course everything Discord touches turns to shit.

The actual battle at the end of the two-parter was suitably grand in scale. No problems with that and I loved that Pinkie became a chaos goddess there for a sec.

The final episode was pretty well done. OP talks about horrifying implications and I assume he means that Twilight is going to outlive her friends, but I don't know that that's necessarily the case. Luster Dawn is clearly meant to be the next Twilight Sparkle, so maybe Twiggles will abdicate to her once she's ready and spend her golden years with her friends. Spike's gonna watch them all die though. To me, the horrible implications are that Equestria has fully taken the multicultural pozload, but hey, nothing good can last forever. The final shot of the book from the pilot episode closing was like pottery and I loved it very much, although I still wish that Pinkie would have broken the fourth wall one last time to thank us for watching and say farewell.

Don't pretend you wouldn't still cum inside the Pony Life characters.

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 No.326704

File: 1652c15b36f99d1⋯.png (226.15 KB, 800x450, 16:9, medium.png)

I didnt watch the finale. I saw some screenshots and figured it was going to be garbage. I also saw the montage with the book and it reminded me of the very beginning of the show and it brought a tear to my eye. God, it was so pure. I miss it so much

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 No.326711

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>>326702

>Discord was Grogar

That's gay. Was he evil all along or something? The sounds like the kind of retardation the nu writers would throw in at the very end of the show

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 No.326718

>>326711

Discord disguised himself as Grogar and assembled the Legion of Doom purely for the lulz. But the Legion of Doom had been plotting behind his back and ended up fucking his shit up before moving on to fuck everyone's shit up.

Just fucking watch it you queer, who cares if it's bad?

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 No.326719

>>326694

Better than I expected. They used what time they had well at least.

>a few horrifying implications that arise when you think about it.

When one takes a look at everything they have told us about the alicorns it makes Twilight's immortality look even worse than just that aspect in itself (will she get her own version of Daybreaker/Nightmare Moon? Celestia seemed pretty miserable with her job, is Twilight in that same gilded cage of power yet no freedom to be herself?).

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 No.326720

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>a few horrifying implications

You mean other than Celestia and Luna's approach to dealing with an unruly kid?

Or Discord having orchestrated everything from the start, not only getting off without so much as a slap on the wrist, but even getting to take part in abusing the depowered and harmless badguys at the end?

Or that turning them to statues, that are still alive and experience everything around them (as we know from Discord), seems unnecessarily cruel to do to someone who can be safely dealt with by putting them in Tartarus?

Or Twilight having to watch her friends grow old and die while she remains forever an alicorn?

Or all the main 6 rapidly approaching menopause with only Pinkie actually having a kid? The rest of them are just too busy with their careers and will simply grow old, lonely and miserable.

That the changelings didn't even try to save Chryssalis from stoneing or try to convince her to change her ways?

What about Cozy Glows parents?

What about all the ponies who died with HALF OF CANTERLOT WAS DESTROYED?

What about all the cows, sheep and goats being kept as livestock in Equestria, despite being sentient?

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 No.326746

>>326720

>What about all the cows, sheep and goats being kept as livestock in Equestria, despite being sentient?

Tbf we've known this.

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 No.326748

It was shit. Fags have been jerking themselves off for years about how this show isn't like the others, it's better, it's special. But this was just bottom of the barrel cartoon series finale. Lot of flash and dramatic moments but the plot just wasn't there and the story mostly hinged on the villains being too stupid to use their established powers to beat the heroes. The epilogue could have been ok, not great, if they ditched the stupid flashbacks and just told the story of Twilight's coronation without the future scenes.

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 No.326749

Given the restrictions of the rating, time slots, and nuwriters, it was as good a finale as you could hope for. A lot of interesting fan theories ended up not being true, Lusty was originally going to be Cadence's daughter who's so fucking irrelevant post-crystalling I don't even remember her name, and I'm really not a fan of all the townsponies getting the "old as fuck" bags under their eyes. They're not that old, none of them are. Except maybe Lyra, since she was a full-grown mare when Twilight was a filly. At least they didn't give them the granny smith body model.

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 No.326756

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>>326749

>Except maybe Lyra, since she was a full-grown mare when Twilight was a filly.

I was going to call bullshit on this. Now I'm not sure what to think.

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 No.326760

File: 04c1b9f5f32956d⋯.jpg (248.88 KB, 626x485, 626:485, disgusting.jpg)

>the two-parter

The whole premise of villains teaming up to defeat everyone else was wasted along with villains themselves. If Glim-glam vs Cheeselegs scene is anything to go by, their power-up didn't matter much as well,

>the best night coronation ever

It was alright.

>pony life

Pic related.

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 No.326772

>>326756

In Ammending Fences Lyra is mentioned as having been in Twilight's childhood friend group but she's not in the episode because she moved to Ponyville. But since apparently nobody thought it might be interesting to see Twilight get back in touch with Lyra upon returning to Ponyville, or even to reference Twilight's old friends ever again, it's natural that you overlooked that.

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 No.326773

>>326756

Lyra has Benjamin Button disease and aged backward. But it was finally cured when she became a kindergartener. That is how she used to be older then twilight then became the same age

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 No.326778

I'm so sick of hearing faggots cry over golly horse. First of all, "kids should be immune to the consequences of their shitty behavior" would be a terrible message to put out in a kids' show. Second of all, she was absolutely an irredeemable psychopath. After a year of intensive friendship education, the only thing she thought of was abusing the concept of friendship is magic to gain power over others. What the fuck can you say to someone like that when you're trying to "redeem" them? Nothing, that's what. At no point ever did she display anything even vaguely resembling the ability to care about anyone besides herself in any way except for cases where she stood to immediately gain from others. No I don't fucking care that she's still underaged. In fact, good. It's better to weed out a fucking monster like that early before she grew up to be a serial killer.

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 No.326779

>>326778

>"Golly, Anon, you sure are one sick son of a bitch."

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 No.326785

>>326778

You've never dealt with children have you.

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 No.326796

>>326778

All kids start out as sociopathic little monsters with next to no concept of empathy or right and wrong until someone teaches it to them. This is what good parents do to their kids.

However, even if we assume she is an irredeemable monster, why was imprisonment in Tartarus no longer a sufficient punishment? She is for all intents and purposes at this point, a kid with no special powers or abilities after all. Turning her to a living statue seems less a matter of preventing her from causing harm to others or incarcerating her, banishment to Tartarus would do both, and more a matter of afflicting her with as cruel a fate as possible in the spur of the moment. Torture for the sake of vengeance, in other words. Seems both excessive and would be outside the systems that would already be in place to deal with juvenile delinquents and criminals in Equestria. Is it really so insane to suggest they be punished according to the law instead of trying to come up with creative means of torturing them?

Also, please stop pretending you're a retard in order to defend the shitty ending of the show. You're better than that. We all are. I know that shit was so bad it hurts, but it won't hurt less because you lash out at others. We all know that feel, finally hit rock bottom.

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 No.326797

>>326778

>kids should be immune to the consequences of their shitty behavior

So imprisonment in stone for eternity is supposed to be appropriate punishment?

>After a year of intensive friendship education

School isn't going to do shit for you if your parents are shit. We never knew anything about Cozy Glow's parents.

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 No.326857

it was pretty gay.

felt rushed. felt like they actually weren't planning for discord to be the goat. felt like it had nothing to do with the rest of the season.

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 No.326860

>>326857

>felt like they actually weren't planning for discord to be the goat

Absolutely this. It was really a surprise that has no indicator. Just like Shining Armor

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 No.326966

File: 9566a9bf8c7e8ce⋯.png (409.18 KB, 570x537, 190:179, Screenshot (1265).png)

>spike still not getting any

>pinkie cheese pied

>complete with abomination

>mane six being a part of ruling equestria was just a joke

>twilight has to do the jobs of both princesses

>pony nobody knows or gives a shit about is twilights student

>biddy versions of mane six look like shit

>granny smith not seen at the farm (spoiler: she's dead)

>sunset shitter seen in the background of the final montage

>storybook ending in future leaves show open for another season

>last villains not dealt with properly, they'll get them next time.

horrifying implications

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 No.326970

>>326966

>storybook ending in future leaves show open for another season

>last villains not dealt with properly, they'll get them next time.

While this could happen, there's literally only one chance left really, and thats reliant on the "G5 intro movie" actually still being G4.

I doubt that shit would happen outside of a movie or another season.which luckily the latter is already off the table.

Also just by the virtue of including "so evil we'll never explain shit about her" being involved in that group the chance of redemption is low.

A cozy glow explanation would probably be terribad anyway, but her "role" is clearly as an irredeemable character regardless if its really backed up.

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 No.326980

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>>326970

perhaps you would know better than I, but they have said it was the final season before. since the writers are obsessed with poking fun at fans of their show, brony or not. I think that's the reason almost anything of value within the continuity is either neglected or utterly destroyed. I have to be honest, I personally enjoy the show up until season 7 even though it obviously got shitty long before.I think though, with their continuous idiot-in-suspense routines they have ensured that many people keep watching. I don't really think the writers really care or not whether things make sense ahead of time with the villains, because the magical equestria allows much freedom to change things willy-nilly as it suits them. they only care about doing what's expected of them.

like many I expected that the finale may be interesting.. I was convinced that they might try and wrap up some of what they had made, or at least drop some shitbombs. my anus was, in fact, expecting that mane six fans would get cucked, that chrysalis would be turned good (complete with a faggy new form), or that celestia or luna could die. I'm really glad that shit didn't happen, but I think the only reason it didn't was that they were told to keep it textbook, which would indicate that they really are trying to reign this show in. they don't want to risk bringing in even more of those "bothersome type" of fans.

this season came across as comprised of now completed episodes rejected from season 8 mixed up with the whole supervillain team arc.

I myself felt quite sadly nostalgic though at the end especially with the last song and the book closing, but was it meant to make us sad? much like the season 9 trailer with the piano tune.

they have to play tricks to make us sad, and push the "your show is ending shit" because the real tragedy is the missed opportunity, which seems to be the writers' specialty. applejacks parents? or what adventures did the girls, perhaps even celestia and luna go on when they were fillies? is trixie homeless? why? what caused cozy to go mad? what's the real reason chryssy cannot reproduce any more? does celestia have any friends, who are they? the answer, is a big fuck you akin to the form of the castle of friendship.

it might be though, that they want to keep friendship is magic as a side profit they can use sort of like equestria girls. theyre probably just testing the waters, might be why they did the villain end half-assed, and also pony life. sorry for the Tl;dr

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 No.326981

>>326980

Being blatantly snarky and pulling up things nobody wanted to get attention was a pretty common theme in these last few seasons yeah. Some of it did feel like wear from age though, but a lot was clearly not.

It being reigned in does make some sense i suppose, the finale doesn't make much sense at all; plot points go nowhere and twists that come out of nowhere.

The book ending was logical from a definitive ending standpoint, i don't think it was intentionally pulling a pity card. Its classy from a "beginning and the end match" perspective.

It would be really dumb if a proper continuation happens though.

I wasn't relying on their declaration but the fact that the next gen itself leaked; i wouldn't particularly call it decisive if it was just them saying this is the end.

>it might be though, that they want to keep friendship is magic as a side profit

Considering that would imply a toyline still existing, what would that even be?

I guess G5 designs look more costly? The mere fact that they're reusing the mane six makes me doubt that FiM is intended to be kept around.

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 No.326982

>>326778

kek

I was waiting for an actually interesting reveal, like that she was actually an ancient demon or something that was masquerading as a filly. Maybe including Flurry Heart in some way since alicorn babies are actually impossible. But nah, who needs that when you can DISCORD STAGED IT LOL and LOOK AT THESE VOICELESS CAMEOS OF MOVIE CHARACTERS WE HAVEN'T USED AT ALL. Don't forget the epic and funny quips in part 1!

>>326966

Lusty's cute, but if I'm remembering the leaks and speculation right, Flurry Heart was supposed to be involved in some way instead of her entire family being cucked out of the ending.

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 No.326985

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>>326981

>Being blatantly snarky and pulling up things nobody wanted

>Some of it did feel like wear from age though, but a lot was clearly not.

this was probably the worst season, either this or season 8, some real shit in here. they made twilight's seven retarded by having spike win. as it was, after spike had finished his bragging about luna helping twilight cheat, shining armor could have just said "cool story lil' bro, but you should have told me once twilight was out of the castle. close, but no cigar." That much is obvious though, to anypony with ears. I don't see the problem with them walking sadly out and then having spike reveal he had the crown. lazy writing, or something else? pinkie pie and the ccc being used in stupid references to outer space? why? because space is the first fucking thing you think of when you hear the intro song, right? (which reminds me, I'm glad dr.whooves fags got fucked) seems really forced, like some cia man told the writers they had to include it.

the episode with the "cameo" from mr. nobody was abominable. and I still have no clue who the fucker was.

its a travesty that they had so many episodes dedicated to the creature shits and other characters that nobody gives a fuck about like big mac, so close to the end of the series. that episode, "the big mac question" felt so out of place, and just plain faggy. if you look at it, aside from the main arc concerning twilight taking over (both two-parters, and the various inbetween) the episodes are pretty random, mostly student episodes, ccc, the odd glimmer episode, but very little substantial concerning the mane 6. it seems cobbled together, that's all i'm saying. like frankenstien's monster. some of the episodes I thought were passable, "a trivial pursuit", "frenemies", "a horse shoe-in", "between dark and dawn"(I know, the dumb faces, I don't give a fuck, the end was worth it.) "student council" was pretty textbook, the two-parters were alright. for some reason, they fuck with celestia, luna, and chryssy's faces in particular this season. again, animation budget cuts, or perhaps not?

>The book ending was logical from a definitive ending standpoint, i don't think it was intentionally pulling a pity card.

of course the storybook end is logical, that's why I was surprised it was actually there. I don't want to sound too certain, but the corny ass ending was bound to have the convention goers howling like rabbis at the wailing wall. perhaps in this instance it was done for effect and credulity, rather than to depress the true ponybros. most of the horrific implications were camouflaged as usual as we have noted, which speaks volumes. perhaps they didn't want to push it too far and piss in everyones faces too hard just yet. we can only speculate

>It being reigned in does make some sense i suppose

it makes sense, because they would be shilling friendship is magic toys for the rest of time. I'm not an expert, but I remember that G3 stuff was still being commonly sold until season 3 of FiM. only about the time of twilights coronation they start to phase out G3 stuff and work FiM into being the main toy line. this is quite a "trendy" show to very young girls, trust me they'll be shilling these a long while yet.

>It would be really dumb if a proper continuation happens though.

not for Hasbro, because they'll make a shitload of money. I didn't really mean that a season 10 would follow the book ending of course, now that would be dumb

>I guess G5 designs look more costly? The mere fact that they're reusing the mane six makes me doubt that FiM is intended to be kept around

on the contrary, the similarity between the characters will work perfectly from a business standpoint. the main income from this series is not obsessive bronies, but little girls, millions of them in every westernised society, who love cute little pony toys. if they can blur the line between G4 and G5 by reusing the "popular" ponies, then the fun will be doubled. they wont have to worry about kids only going for FiM or EqG anymore. of course the only reason EqG exists is to sell barbie shite. it would also solve the previous problem of lack of homogenisation in the appearance between generations. whether they will bother to do another series of FiM will depend on how much they want to spend on their commercial. what we want, or how we reckon it is best handled, has absolutely no effect on that. all things aside, I would personally welcome another season, if they actually decided to pay the writers and come up with a decent send-off for our beloved ponies. alas, it's unlikely to happen

>>326982

>Flurry Heart was supposed to be involved in some way instead of her entire family being cucked out of the ending.

I hadn't heard that. it would have been a neat idea to have her as twilight's student

sorry if that was a really boring post

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 No.326986

>>326985

>only about the time of twilights coronation they start to phase out G3 stuff

I meant when twilight got wings. brain took a shit bro. lol

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 No.326987

>>326985

>this is quite a "trendy" show to very young girls, trust me they'll be shilling these a long while yet.

Its not needed when sequels literally inherit some of that. Which is what G5 is actually treated as.

FiM is MLP, thats what it is in the end; FiM will be referenced forever down the line though as its the first publicly standout one though.

>on the contrary, the similarity between the characters will work perfectly from a business standpoint.

Believe it or not flooding shelves with similar products is not a good idea, G5 reuses designs a bit hard for it to be a good idea to constantly release two lines of ponies.it makes sense to bulk out the line-up with older products though

If there are two samesh products on the shelf, unless there is a big gimmick; it will hamper the sales of one of them and production costs will always exist.

>G3 stuff was sold until season 3

I'd imagine hasbro doesn't care if old stock is sold, which that very much could be or its padding as mentioned previously; new things cost extra to produce after all.

G3 didn't exactly have a fanbase, but since its ponies they can just be sold alongside it. So legacy releases don't need any media anyway. While G4 re-releases is obvious, new toys and media would be too much of a cost split.

>I didn't really mean that a season 10 would follow the book ending of course, now that would be dumb

It would be dumb if it suddenly restarted before that ending by virtue of season 9 ending that way.

>come up with a decent send-off for our beloved ponies.

I literally don't think the current writers would be able to without a gun to their heads or something.

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 No.326988

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>>326987

>Its not needed when sequels literally inherit some of that. Which is what G5 is actually treated as.FiM is MLP, thats what it is in the end

it won't be treated as that at all from a marketing standpoint. it wasn't like that with G4 either. it had hardly anything to do with the previous show. you know FiM was a spin-off to begin with, they weren't confident enough to ditch their time-tested classic designs yet.

they don't give a fuck about continuity. they'll use the same characters because they sell and because the market is still saturated with them already. the mane six are irrelevant anyway, the most popular pony toys appear to be twilight, celestia, luna, cadence, trixie, and glimmer (lol)

>unless there is a big gimmick; it will hamper the sales of one of them and production costs will always exist.

someone should tell this to the idiots who greenlighted EqG

>I'd imagine hasbro doesn't care if old stock is sold, which that very much could be or its padding as mentioned previously; new things cost extra to produce after all.

they should care, because they don't gain anything from their products being sold in stores. by the time the product is on the retailers' shelf, the company is out of the loop. Hasbro is a corporation, they are part of a great chain. which retailers are always striving to become a part of. that's why they have these huge deals with corporates to get more stock for less cost. make no mistake, the manufacture of small plastic ponies by chinese manufacturers cost them nothing whatsoever. the ponies production cost and material value is but a few cents, they are sold for several dollars. tactically the only time it is not advantageous to have all your products on every shelf is when a competitor has superior products, especially if they cost the same or less. that's "bad for business" regardless of Hasbro's profit margin.

simply put though, the purpose of having so much pony product on the shelf isn't to make lots of money, it's to make sure nobody else makes money from "pony product", if you get my meaning. think coke vs. pepsi, they don't have many rivals, do they, despite one product clearly being superior to the other. much like with FiM and EqG

>It would be dumb if it suddenly restarted before that ending by virtue of season 9 ending that way

it would be dumb, yes, but the point I was trying to make is that it has been conveniently left open with that time gap. (for a movie, spin-off, or reboot or season 10.)

>I literally don't think the current writers would be able to without a gun to their heads or something.

sounds like a plan. cap this post

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 No.326990

>>326988

>it wasn't like that with G4 either

Why would G4 have any reason to reference G3, ask yourself this; why would in their right mind would want to attach themselves to the G3.5 stuff. G3 in general wasn't standout from a cast or world standpoint either. G3 was just "safe".

And anyway continuity isn't what i was implying, FiM has become the brand you do realize; even if you believe that re-releases show it as a spin-off originally.

Continuity won't be what attaches G4 to this, it will be the legacy of its predecessor.

>FiM isn't inherently treated as MLP

Reusing old toys doesn't change that FiM is and always will be "G4 MLP" its not a spin-off, it was the main line during its time. G3 wasn't getting anything new, once it started nothing from G3 got any sort of reference; even the quite new G3.5 stuff.

Re-releasing older molds takes little cost and when each wave has like 6 or so new members something needs to fill the gaps. Gimmick lines can only fill so much about fasion and such can only fill so much, and those don't really fill the same price line as normal ponies.

I kinda wish i could find some sort of "wave list" to see the ratios of this, because stores having stock for that long isn't impossible.G3.5 was definitely shelf warming from what i remember.

Also just an obvious point, i bet you could find the same thing happening in the early years of G3; but that would definitely not be traceable.

As an extra obvious point, this wouldn't have lasted till princess twilight of all things if it was a case of believing the G4 base to be unreliable. Also while plastic is cheap; starting mass production isn't as much, flood shelves enough and it will hit that bone.

>someone should tell this to the idiots who greenlighted EqG

Notice the "gimmick" part. EqG isn't even ponies.

They don't share a niche, at least not in a "i already have this toy basically" way, a barbie of twilight being around normal twilight isn't going to trigger the same reaction as Imao 2 rainbow dash the pegasus.

G4 will not be a line thats constantly attached, but stuff like a "retro twilight" and dirt twilight getting a unicorn version are incredibly likely. G4 will probably get a lot more stuff later, but as special legacy sets of sorts; instead of a constant side series.

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 No.327003

File: fac631489437a3b⋯.png (1.31 MB, 822x638, 411:319, Degenerate Old Mane 6 and ….png)

This meme image that I drew by hand explains the difference between the MLPFiM season 9 finale plus Seasons 8 and 9 in general, and the movie Frozen II.

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 No.327004

>>327003

>drew by hand

>clearly edited

Nice bait.in general

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 No.327017

>>326857

Ironically it was clearly planned;

The leaks show no disparities with Grogar being Discord pretending; though i have a feeling he was originally intended for the actual to have an appearance based on something later.

>GROGAR’s plan is ostensibly to have his assembled villains – Cozy Glow, Chrysalis, and Tirek – attack at Twilight’s coronation. He tells his minions that during the transfer of royal power, the princesses will be weak, and Grogar and his team will have the magical edge. He has also sent his trio of meanies to retrieve the Bewitching Bell in 908, which he says will amp up his power.

>DISCORD’s plan is to have Cozy Glow, Chrysalis, and Tirek attack at Twilight’s coronation to have them get their butts kicked. He wants Twilight to believe in herself, and feels she needs a victory like this one to do that – if she’s beaten the baddest baddies in Equestria, who could ever stop her? In his own chaotic-logic way, Discord’s trying to help.

>–THE BEWITCHING BELL – Discord can’t really use its power. It really DID belong to Grogar, and it was what banished him into some limbo realm. Discord only uses it as a MacGuffin to get his villains to bond/get them off his back when they want a plan.

Notice how the bell is totally different; its lost this function by the time the final stretch was even being properly written for, but a different outline exists for this version.

>Seeing the error in his plan, Discord reveals to Twilight and the others he is Grogar. He explains his intentions and how things got out of hand, but AS Grogar, he will go fix it. However when he tries, the villains use the Bewitching Bell to GET RID of Discord – banishing him as Grogar was once banished. Twilight, in desperation as things go from bad to worse, decides she will MAKE ponies get along, and does some kind of power-up spell/magic (perhaps what she now has access to as ruler of Equestria) and transforms into MIDNIGHT SPARKLE – but her powered-up state is ruthless; she’s basically gone Nightmare Moon, and will do whatever it takes to make the kingdoms united once again.

The Second half was never finished for this version, but it would have made sense to show discord in limbo right?

>>326985

As a few notes, Flurry went from having issues with her apparently Twilight esq student to having those issues herself; so i have to wonder if Luster Dawn was that early draft student and the middle man(Flurry Heart) was written out.

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 No.327023

>>327017

>and does some kind of power-up spell/magic (perhaps what she now has access to as ruler of Equestria) and transforms into MIDNIGHT SPARKLE

Twilight was supposed to go to her Midnight Sparkle forum in an early draft? If the writers were being smart with that it could have some potential if they made it with an ideological/thematics of the show bend. Say, as with the other ponies struggle with the opposite of their elements to varying degrees (especially Rarity with greed) is this Twilight becoming an embodiment of disharmony? Is it her darkside that she must deal with in a similar way to Luna and Celestia? Or is it a more ideological conflict? Say, as the text implies here, order vs harmony? There is a lot of interesting paths that could be but more than likely it''d be only fan service.

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 No.327025

>>327023

I'd imagine this draft of Midnight was probably meant to be ideological, nothing in the script implies it was elements going out of wack. Nothing about "forcing everyone to live in harmony" implies disharmony.

I'm guessing it was just going to make Nightmare Moon type things a side effect of being an Alicornwell "ruling alicorn, but thats pretty much all of them. So yeah a dark side, considering everything else i agree that it would be misfired.

At least from a thematic view Midnight once again fits the "beginning and end rhyme" theme and has a bit more of a interesting idea than "Windigos show up and do jack shit".

This draft was destined to fail due to one reason anyway bad choices or no; this is way too bloated for a two parter, i doubt even an amazing writer can cram.

>Twilight's friends SOMEHOW free Discord, defeat the villains, save Twilight and

together they all set everything right. We haven’t worked all that out yet. But that’s

the plan.

Into anything resembling a singular good episode.

I have to wonder if the final power up thing came from this, though early scripts don't have anything resembling that.

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 No.327033

File: b899efca0a67a4a⋯.jpg (46.18 KB, 355x473, 355:473, nasal pony.jpg)

>>327004

How is it edited? Because I typed text over it?

I drew it. it's not even good-quality artwork. It's just easier for me to draw a depiction of Pepe and the others than to try and create an MSPaint creation of the saint Pepe meme template. The point is the text describing the difference between S9 MLPFiM and Frozen II.

https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/165304122/Saint-Pepe

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 No.327035

>>327033

I accidentally read it as S8 v S9, which made it shitposty sounding

And yes the text was the joke, its not a major edit and no sane person would take it as anything actually relevant.

I haven't seen frozen 2 so i can't exactly say if i agree with it.

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 No.327044

Really disappointed that the villains didn't get a finish to their friendship arc. I was really hoping for Skiddles-Chrissy and Cozy Glow starting their own kingdom with Tirek after taking Grogar's land in some kind of Friendship Trinity. Guess you can't redeem everyone.

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