Konstantin Kisin says he was wrong about "new media" Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 17:34:55 5adf05 No. 13586299 [Last50 Posts]
In lieu of the Douglas Murray and Dave Smith Israel/Palestine debate, Konstantin Kisin - host of the "Triggernometry" podcast has written a piece on his website claiming he was wrong about "alternative/new media" replacing "the mainstream" being a good thing because his faggot friend Douglas embarrassed himself on the Joe Rogan Podcast, and now everyone is clowning on him on social media.
Last month Konstantin himself was on the Rogan podcast but never brought this up, never tried to bring up the Israel/Palestine conflict, he just smoked cigars and was yucking it up with his old pal Joe - praising his free speech platform while promoting his podcast to millions of people. But after the Dave Smith Murray debate something changed…
Here is the link for the kvetching piece he wrote - "Dispatches from PODCASTISTAN" lmao even.
https://www.konstantinkisin.com/p/murray-vs-smith-dispatches-from-podcastistan
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 17:50:13 45d3a1 No. 13586346
>jews
>rogan
>directly linking to some jew's site
>probably a hohol jew at that
This is your idea of a good post?
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 17:54:10 5adf05 No. 13586363
>>13586346
>This is your idea of a good post?
Yeah, I'm pretty retarded.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 17:57:54 ef4319 No. 13586372
>>13586363
its a good post fren, i didnt catch the whole douglas murry vs whatever guy but it doesn't surprise me to see them turn against new media now that new media is pushing palastine and anti israel (why are we suporting them) stuff.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:00:46 ef4319 No. 13586379
>>13586372
also, that triggernometry guy, konstan is pushed really hard, he appears on all sorts of shows big shows too. his opinion is asked by all sorts of arseholes, and his studio came from nothing.
He's being shilled, and is artificial, that much is obvious.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:03:23 5adf05 No. 13586385
>>13586346
I just wanted to show how people who got famous under the banner of "free speech" and "mainstream media bad" fall apart the moment someone challenges their beliefs. They immediately crumble and resort to "free discourse is actually problematic" in this case and IT'S AKSHUULY THE SAME or even worst.
What do you want from me?
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:05:42 ef4319 No. 13586389
>>13586385
>What do you want from me?
he wants blood and nudes.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:09:40 5adf05 No. 13586399
>>13586372
>i didnt catch the whole douglas murry vs whatever guy
I personally enjoyed it because Dave Smith actually came prepared, I was very surprised how petty and smug this Douglas faggot was despite being a seemingly good debater. He didn't address any of the arguments and basically acted like a critical theory leftist.
There are some pretty funny clips on Twitter of him being really silly and hypocritical.
Here's a funny clip someone made.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bey0JDKRyMw
>>13586379
Yeah, he is a russian/ukrainian jew KEK
As with all "ex leftist" who became "conservative" as soon as the israel question comes up they show their true colours.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:19:58 8da398 No. 13586450
>>13586379
Kisin is also one of the guys trying to cancel people for being "woke right" i.e. questioning Americas undying loyalty to Israel. Fuck Israel and fuck Palestine. Fuck the entire middle east to, its all full of sandniggers anyway.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:20:41 ef4319 No. 13586453
>>13586399
Yeah this was always going to be a problem. Some Americans don't have the capacity to see in advance of whats going to happen. Bannon knew, he said it was dangerous to turf people who are citizens or remove citizenship from people you don't approve of, this is coming on its present course, may take some time.
And we see the same sorta switch being played here, that is free media is all well and good until they start being pro palestine. Then free media is bad. They just waited until the mainstream media got a reality check and sided with them.
Murrey is a weird one, an actual faggot. Pushed by someone, who knows.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:22:01 ef4319 No. 13586460
>>13586450
>"woke right"
What even is that
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:22:13 f66525 No. 13586461
>>13586453
>Murrey is a weird one, an actual faggot. Pushed by someone, who knows.
His hubby/bf is Jewish, so…
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:24:11 8da398 No. 13586466
>>13586460
>What even is that
A failed attempt at associating right leaning people that don´t like Israel with woke shit.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:25:14 696538 No. 13586472
>>13586299
All them Twats are PAID GLOBO HOMO Puppets
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:27:35 c356d7 No. 13586485
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:28:31 5adf05 No. 13586489
>>13586450
>"woke right"
James Lindsay has been pushing this hard.
Him and Kisin have become absolutely insufferable.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:29:25 7a1f64 No. 13586496
>>13586299
Sorry, I didnt watch the debate but what you are saying is that the people who promote free-speech and alt-media are now critical of it because their pro-israel guy lost a debate on alt-media?
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:34:45 5adf05 No. 13586525
>>13586496
Yes, in a very convoluted and round about way. He can't just say it like that because he literally was a guest on Rogan a month ago and is buddies with him. But after the backlash from the Dave/Douglas debate people are dunking on Murray and praising Dave so the knives are coming out.
You can check out the link to what he wrote on his site, you don't even have to read it all the way to understand where he is going with this.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:37:23 8da398 No. 13586538
>>13586489
Lindsays insane twatter rant about how the woke right was summoning arch angels to.. do something was epic and cost him dearly regarding actual conservative that payed any attention to him.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:39:26 5adf05 No. 13586550
>>13586453
If only Banon wasn't a zionist :( He would be perfect. He fucking hates Elon musk and all his transhumanist AI bs.
>Murrey is a weird one, an actual faggot. Pushed by someone, who knows.
Of course he is, a month ago he was in israel and they gave him an award for his "contribution" to the subject and for defending israel.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:40:03 ef4319 No. 13586553
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_BcK3PiLtM&ab_channel=Triggernometry
Oh i get it, he's complaining about the people complaining about the anti white agenda, so basically silencing the white nationalists and trying to stop this being about race.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:43:27 000000 No. 13586564
>>13586346
OP needs that joojoo cum.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:45:22 5adf05 No. 13586575
>>13586538
Lindsay is absolutely bat shit insane and unhinged on twitter. A lot of his supporters turned on him and rightfully so.
I admit The Grievance studies shit was funny and actually exposed how inept and retarded academia is but of course once israel is mentioned everyone becomes an ideological freak.
I think if tankie leftists who actually support terrorist groups were not involved, the criticism would hold much more ground and be taken seriously. Fucking lefties ruining everything again.
The moment someone has a good point the immediately say "OMG GAYS FOR GAZA" and a lot of people don't want to associate with that.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:49:31 7a1f64 No. 13586591
>>13586525
I didn't realize the debate made that big of waves. I heard about the debate but didn't follow-up on it.
>>13586575
Just like ows all over again lol
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:50:13 900a98 No. 13586595
>>13586379
Hi father was a politician who fled Russia in the 90s for massive fraud, and you can imagine how bad it was if they were chasing him in the 90s for it, but managed to squirrel away enough to send this little kvetchroach to private school in england. I have no idea whether anyone organically listens to the snivelling little shit but people are pretty fucking retarded
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:50:41 5adf05 No. 13586598
>>13586575
If anons haven't read The Grievance studies go and check it out, it's a good laugh.
Lindsay and two other people started submitting academic studies to see how much insane shit can they push fro publishing until someone finds out it's a joke. Unsurprisingly they push it very far. They submitted passages from Mein Kampf and the papers got published and praised. They submitted something about dog raping each other and how it reflects on modern society - I can't really remember, but it was very funny. They got about 25 insane papers published and even won awards.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:54:40 5adf05 No. 13586621
>>13586591
>I didn't realize the debate made that big of waves. I heard about the debate but didn't follow-up on it.
Yeah it has 3.5 million views on Youtube in a few days and probably 5-6 on Spotify. It was trending on twitter. Lots of people are getting redpilled on israel again. Douglas did so poorly it made a streisand effect. Of course all the "free speech" warriors hate it and that makes it worse for them.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:54:54 696538 No. 13586623
>>13586595
Based and so Correct he was lauded about 7 years ago as a top intellect on uk papers and libtard elites
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 18:56:02 5adf05 No. 13586630
>>13586564
No but I wouldn't mind some big self-hating joojoo titties.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 19:06:37 7a1f64 No. 13586676
>>13586621
I'm surprised Douglas did so poorly because he has been (self)promoted as le well-spoken british intellectual. But defending the undefendable is a difficult task. Oh well, such is life.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 19:07:51 696538 No. 13586682
>>13586630
I would of SMASHED her KIKE HONK OUT ..lel
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 19:10:49 ef4319 No. 13586694
I reckon israel and the limp right are preparing to arrest and strip citizenship of muslims and others who are against israel including those in the west with draconian powers.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 19:13:53 5adf05 No. 13586710
>>13586682
Yeah, I've been with a couple Greek girls that had some beautiful shark fins. For some reason they always have a banging body. They are absolutely insane boarder line mentally ill but the fighting and screaming in the streets is worth it lol.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 19:18:31 5adf05 No. 13586737
>>13586676
>I'm surprised Douglas did so poorly because he has been (self)promoted as le well-spoken british intellectual
There was a MUNK debate in Canada two years ago and Douglas Murray and Matt Taibi were debating Malcolm Gladwell (insufferable jew) and some shitty lesbian. The subject was "Do people trust mainstream media" and Douglas and Taibi were saying MSM has fallen (the fucking irony). Murray absolutely destroyed Gladwell and the other cunt. And now Douglas argued in the same style Malcom did, appealing to authority and being elitist, repeating the "EXPERTS" word. It was very hypocritical and people are noticing.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 19:24:45 5adf05 No. 13586764
>>13586595
At first their podcast started as a critique of the UK government madness and I will admit he was very reasonable. But as soon as the Ukraine war started and then the israel shit he turned to a neo-con immediately.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 19:27:36 696538 No. 13586778
>>13586710
BPDs chicks are the
CRAZZZZEEE ONES
Never do that ok
either you dies or she does an is buried deep in National trust/protected woods
NGL .. ok
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 19:33:50 5adf05 No. 13586798
>>13586778
It's not BPD, it's just Greek girls, they do be like that. And I'm talking about the girls in Greece not greeks in the US. But it might be same, it's probably inherited. But they are crazy in bed. They seem normal at first, dress normally ect..but once you get with them it gets crazy pretty quick.
Also Greece is pretty sick. It's like a paradise at the bottom of Europe. 300 kino islands.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 19:45:23 5adf05 No. 13586852
>>13586798
Also I love their spit roasted lamb.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 19:51:21 4e8858 No. 13586887
>>13586299
When I was young, I bought into the nonsense that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover. Just look at that guy's face. No one should ever listen to a face like that.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 19:51:42 696538 No. 13586891
>>13586798
Yeah so BPD
I met very Crazzzeee Italia and Greek gurls ok ..
and dated both
N one were that bad
Its BAD DADDY ISSUES , dad doesnt Train the kid ..
But I dont wanna fite here ok
Respect fella… from a WHITE TOP Pagan British guy! stavros Ok
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 19:52:48 7a1f64 No. 13586899
>>13586887
My dad told me to judge a person by there face. He said its a survival mechanism and should be respected.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 19:53:56 8de06f No. 13586905
>>13586899
Based dad teaching the kid what matters
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 20:02:12 5adf05 No. 13586953
>>13586891
Maybe I'm attracted to those kinds of girls but as I said they seemingly look normal. Usually PBD you can spot em from a mile.
Yes some of them might have had daddy issues but I'm suspicious of that theory, I don't think that applies every time. Also Sigmunt Fraud was a pedo apologist and a weird guy, I'm a Fraud revisionist.
>But I dont wanna fite here ok
We're just talking fren.
I'm half greek but I don't live in Greece, one of the neighbouring countries, I go there a lot though, I have family ect..
>>13586887
Yeah, most of the times the face says a lot. And it's not necessarily being ugly or not, it's something more complex and we have an instinct in our gut.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 20:04:44 7a1f64 No. 13586972
>>13586905
It just makes sense. My dad would say shit like
>if someone looks scary, be scared of them
>is someone looks untrustworthy, dont trust them
makes sense, really. we have evolved to judge a person by their looks. strange that a part of our education is to remove that instinct.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 20:09:31 5adf05 No. 13586993
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 20:10:38 a0ac72 No. 13587000
>>13586887
One of the oldest tricks in the book
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 21:38:32 5adf05 No. 13587473
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 21:39:38 d99dab No. 13587485
>>13586385
This just proves podcasts and debates between kikes are fake, it doesn’t cover the subject matter you claim at all.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 21:45:19 5adf05 No. 13587507
>>13587485
This is how the op-ed ends…
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 21:57:00 0451c3 No. 13587558
>>13586299
Watching a literal faggot Zionist shill and a fucking jew discussing the Zionist/Palestinian conflict and expecting them to be honest is absolutely hilarious to me.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 21:59:41 0451c3 No. 13587572
>>13586379
He is a jew.
Heebtube is basicly globohomo TV, it does its best to push for jew culture drivers.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 22:02:21 5adf05 No. 13587580
>>13587558
I personally like Dave
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 22:04:54 7a1f64 No. 13587593
>>13587507
wtf hahahahhaa i cannot make sense of it, so i will not trust him
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 22:06:06 0451c3 No. 13587598
>>13586450
Yep, unfortunately, America will stay in the ME for a long time, in order to secure Israel.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 22:09:55 0451c3 No. 13587617
>>13586496
>Sorry, I didnt watch the debate
Good on ya, I didn't watch it either.
It's basicly a jew and a shabbos Goyim, talking about the ME, while advancing all sorts of jew narratives about it.
I wish we could just forget about the ME.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 22:20:26 5adf05 No. 13587656
>>13587617
some jews are better than others
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 22:21:54 0451c3 No. 13587663
>>13587580
That's fine but he does have a dog in this fight.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 22:22:46 0451c3 No. 13587668
>>13587656
Dave will still advance jewish lies and narratives he will just do it from a diffrent angle.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 22:23:09 7a1f64 No. 13587670
>>13587617
I never see the reason to watch these things any more. I remember true independent alt-media, and it got destroyed late 2010s. "Alt-media" now is just as compromised as "official" media.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 22:28:20 5adf05 No. 13587696
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 22:37:04 b83c44 No. 13587745
I just wish that all Americans would wake up one day and say: "fuck the Jews, fuck what happens in Israel". The world would improve instantly.
>>13586972
Prejudice is extremely useful. What happens is that in the modern leftist gay world, prejudice has been turned into a taboo, just because in 1 out of 10 cases, you can come to the wrong conclusion, committing an "injustice" that will hurt some faggot's feelings.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 22:37:43 5adf05 No. 13587748
>>13587663
>That's fine but he does have a dog in this fight
I think he is sincere, I've known and watched Dave for 10 years probably from Ligeon of Skanks and he hasnt changed one bit
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 22:53:15 5c6dbc No. 13587839
>>13586299
Free speech was never supposed to be used to criticize jews and I believe if the founders ever imagined that was a possibility they would have carved out an exception. We need some common sense speech controls like they have in the civilized world.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 22:59:43 5adf05 No. 13587864
>>13587839
>Free speech was never supposed to be used to criticize jews and I believe if the founders ever imagined that was a possibility they would have carved out an exception
Are you serious?
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 23:08:19 95b84d No. 13587908
>>13587745
> I just wish that all Americans would wake up one day and say: "fuck the Jews, fuck what happens in Israel".
We're closer than we used to be.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 23:11:50 7bc00b No. 13587919
>>13586299
Sam Harris said Murray was brilliant and some people say he was rambling about experts and committed the fallacy of the appeal to authority but they are stupid.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 23:17:48 7bc00b No. 13587955
>>13586460
Zionist shabbos goyim in my book
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 23:23:14 5adf05 No. 13587980
>>13587919
Sam Harris is the biggest faggot from that neo-con bunch. Absolute piece of shit human being.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 23:28:49 7bc00b No. 13588006
>>13586764
>Be a podcaster
>Start getting a lot of views and subs
>An entity approaches you and offers you money to work for them
>You take it
Kisin's takes are too bad (Murray's too) it's not possible they believe it. They have no conviction when defending their position. They are full of shit and they know it.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 23:32:45 7bc00b No. 13588030
>>13587656
I only saw that guy on Piers debating some fat Jewess named Fleur who unironically said "this is another blood libel". He seemed OK
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 23:34:30 7bc00b No. 13588038
>>13587663
So ? Challenge his arguments then. I'm not saying he's perfect but his takes were proper. I just wish he wasn't always so excited and cucky about China.
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 23:35:56 7a1f64 No. 13588044
>>13588006
>>13588006
I imagine this is the business plan for a lot of podcasters. Get big enough to sell out lol
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 23:36:06 5c6dbc No. 13588046
>>13587864
Sarcasm is difficult in these trying times
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 23:38:39 7bc00b No. 13588053
>>13587696
Reasonable as fuck
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 23:45:14 7bc00b No. 13588088
>>13587864
The founders were Masonic shabbos goyim and being a Jew was an asset in America since before the revolution
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 23:46:25 d21137 No. 13588091
>>13587908
i find the biblical narrative of how they sacrificed children to demons and adamantly refused to give up the practice an effective method of shaming them
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 23:48:24 7bc00b No. 13588103
>>13587908
That's because Israel is committing a genocide right now. After this is over those numbers will somewhat drop but I hope not all the way back.
Also "Negative view of Israel" is one thing, ask them if they think if the government is Zionist occupied
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 23:50:00 7bc00b No. 13588110
>>13587980
Kek true but he didn't come off as such until recently, he's assuming his final form of a rabid Zionist on par with Shapiro
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Anonymous 04/17/25 (Thu) 23:53:18 7bc00b No. 13588127
>>13588044
An anon on 4chan not so long ago said he has a YT channel that's not even political but he got around 250k subs and he was contacted by some Ukrainians iirc to either sell them channel or let them upload stuff. He didn't take it but it probably happens a lot.
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 00:05:10 5adf05 No. 13588174
>>13588030
Norman Finkelstein is the final anti-zionist jew boss. Many have tried and many have failed to debate him. His book "The Holocaust Industry" is one of the biggest redpils out there. It literally cost him his tenure. Highly recommend.
Dershowitz owes him 10k.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxXLPBMst4Y
>>13588046
I've seen this type of sentiment and the person was being sincere.
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 00:16:24 7a1f64 No. 13588216
>>13588127
I'm not surprised.
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 01:43:26 0451c3 No. 13588640
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 02:11:03 7bc00b No. 13588730
>>13588640
I guess it's redpill time
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 02:12:59 7bc00b No. 13588738
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 08:03:04 87d696 No. 13590167
>>13586299
dude tried so hard to push for the whole woke right bullshit, that's when he lost me
he's smart to downplay the TDS shit and not be a part of it come this election cycle. him visiting America was a pretty smart move to say "we really wanted to be there to see for ourselves", he had some good interviews during that time
he shilled for ukraine though, which is very typical of your default factory setting European left point of view
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 09:08:20 5adf05 No. 13590345
>>13590167
>him visiting America was a pretty smart move to say "we really wanted to be there to see for ourselves"
They were thinking of moving here completely, I don't blame em, the UK is an absolute mess, wouldn't want to live there, especially when they are putting people in jail for posts on political opinions.
>he shilled for ukraine though, which is very typical of your default factory setting European left point of view
Yeah, the other thin that bothers me is they never touched on the vaccine and Konstantin to this day says it wasn't such a big deal "and there is no evidence of being deadly" which is insane.
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 09:51:33 5adf05 No. 13590490
>>13588738
Damn, didn't know that.
Big if True
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 09:54:19 4e856a No. 13590499
flagfagging?
didnt we have enough Ukraine flags on X?
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 09:55:24 4e856a No. 13590505
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 09:57:56 4e856a No. 13590515
>>13588738
Chaim is Gene Simmons real name. Hes a name changer, sign of a Khazar
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 09:59:20 5adf05 No. 13590523
>>13590499
You could see the countries before if you hover with the mouse over the poster. I guess lot's of people wanted it and mods and jannies listened.
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 10:15:03 6d6576 No. 13590551
>>13590523
Well that's funny. Still a real flag would be better, it makes it easier to navigate than just ID
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 10:26:04 5adf05 No. 13590576
>>13590551
Yeah, I like it. Haven't been called a turkroach in a few days…
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 10:27:53 ef4319 No. 13590582
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 10:31:51 4e856a No. 13590595
>>13590576
must be a mind fuck for those that take the israel flag down
"what was I doing"
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 10:38:28 5adf05 No. 13590610
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 10:45:21 5adf05 No. 13590629
>>13590595
>must be a mind fuck for those that take the israel flag down
Not sure what you mean fren
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 11:29:43 5adf05 No. 13590761
>>13590515
>Chaim Witz
lolmao
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 12:37:40 6d6576 No. 13591138
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Anonymous 04/18/25 (Fri) 16:31:49 6f32af No. 13592238
>>13590167
>he shilled for ukraine though, which is very typical of your default factory setting European left point of view
any reason to speed up the ruskis death is a good reason, dare I say right point of view reason. But you already knew that
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