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Are Italians really descended from the ancient Romans? If so then why are so many Roman generals and emperors Blond or strawberry blond haired with blue eyes and freckles? Who are the closest descendants of Ancient Rome today?
Why were so many Romans fags? They couldn't possibly have all been gay?
Is there anything we could learn from the Romans (practicalism, stoicism, building, etc) that could be useful today?
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No.13560799
Mummy portraits or Fayum mummy portraits (also Faiyum mummy portraits) is the modern term given to a type of naturalistic painted portrait on wooden boards attached to Upper class mummies from Roman Egypt. They belong to the tradition of panel painting, one of the most highly regarded forms of art in the Classical world. The Fayum portraits are the only large body of art from that tradition to have survived. Fuck yahweh!
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No.13560806
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No.13560916
>>13560673
op here and this is based, Rome lives on
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No.13560948
Looking into it, the language and the history of the general area I ran into some surprising things.
The ancient Iliri date at least to 15000 BG. Slavs came to the area at 8000 BC, mixed with the population. Part of that mixed group moved to Italy and basically gave birth to Rome. The other part stayed in the balakans region (mostly concetrated along the coast)
20 of the roman emperors were surprisingly from that stock.
Then I went looking back into he history of the language and found some interesting things - every words has a disctint root and discernable meaning. In comparison, english historains have no idea were most words come from.
for example, the oldest form of "earth" in my language is 'rt' (by the sound you make when walking on ground)
Soul is 'pir'.
'van' mean to be outside - hence vampir (vampire, not an english word), body without a soul.
There's tons of words with the same root - 'potpiriti' (to re-kindile a fire), again understandable. 'pod' means under, 'pot' to support from below. Hence potpiriti - to support a soul (of fire).
All the words are pretty much like that. All of that gives credance to the proto-languge of europeans that is the building block of most languages today.
I'm rambling a bit, but very interesting stuff. Esepcially when you get back to the etruscians.
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No.13560960
>>13560191
Rule 4. Kill yourself. Jew spam. Kill yourself.
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No.13560995
Totally organic thread, not at all bait
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No.13561033
>>13560673
>easy with the projections there, Romans in the military caught taking it up the ass were stoned to death by their fellow soldiers
sauce on this? livy? tacitus?
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No.13561068
>>13561033
Polybius
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fustuarium
not necessarily stoned but clubbed to death too
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No.13561081
>>13560258
your not wrong i love Serbs as a Croat if we stopped focusing on petty bullshit like how to worship a jew on a stick or minor cultural differences wed be better off VOLIM MOJ SUSJEDI i want all Europeans to come together when we finally gas the kikes in race war now INFIGHTING IS HOW THE JEW WANTS US
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No.13561090
Well the Romans did kill all the abrahamite parasites. Perhaps that could be a start? I know the Jews have defamed and libeled them for a long time, probably because Romans were too white.
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No.13561117
>>13561081
I Agree. Yugos need to put aside the theology Jew and focus on the race. The region needs to cooperate for the sake of the children of the white race.
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No.13561118
>>13561090
it's not so much about color but about spirit, early Romans were some of the absolute most antithetical people to have ever existent compared to semites, a gens of austere and spartan warrior-farmers who despised city bugmen, riches, merchants and compared usury to homicide, it's no wonder they devastated Punics first and then came extremely close to exterminating iudaeans, before, as it happens in history, which has its sense of humor, they eventually became what they had always hated
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No.13561123
>>13560948
Etruscan language was non-Indo-European, as far as I know it mostly survived in personal names.
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No.13561354
>>13561117
a real nationalist thinks like we do not like these faggots doing exactly what the jew wants SLAVA RODU
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No.13564039
>>13560680
thats some real butthurt med posting
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No.13564106
>>13560494
stop pushing this dick myth. niggers don’t have bigger dicks, fucking cuck.
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No.13564598
>>13560191
>>13560206
Wypipo btfo. Roman bvlls confirmed tanned
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No.13564650
>>13564598
Other populations for reference. Askenazis Jews are just early Roman/Greek converts and half jew mutts who traveled and settled into German and Slavic lands
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No.13564681
>>13564598
what service is this? to my knowledge of the field, no Roman era DNA samples exist from Italy(not yet anyway, it may change by the end of this year)
I assume it's some test with some artificial clusters used as proxies perhaps
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No.13564692
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No.13564720
>>13564681
TrueAncestry I am also curious at their source samples.
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No.13564754
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No.13564778
>>13564720
I doubt they have real ones anyway, I mean rumor is Harvard itself is apparently finally working on some, would be strange if some private company had already gotten them, given the high technology required when it comes to ancient DNA. I'd take those with a grain of sand, though actually some ancient samples relative to some of those cultures/ethnicities are indeed publicly available, like Roman era Spaniards, Vikings, some Bronze and Roman era Greeks(latter from an Iberian colony) and others.
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No.13564826
>>13564778
Harvard data was leaked on Anthrogenica, Romans were like modern Sicilians.
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No.13564867
>>13564826
Shit yeah. Sicilians confirmed for white. Eat shit, nordicists.
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No.13564890
>>13564826
that's not the Harvard one though I think, I'm thinking about the other, which should have much more samples spanning from the mesolithic to the renaissance, including iron age samples, which should in theory be 60%(of them) like north Italians and 40% south Italian-like, which given the Etruscans on that plot would make sense
many of those may be Hellenized south Italians that entered the city in large, after Pyrrhus was defeated
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No.13564930
>>13564867
They are not white.
They are like 25-35% Levantine Bronze Age
They are literally the same as Ashkenazis
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No.13564935
>>13564890
Part of the Iron Age samples are Etruscan-like and part Roman-like already, so the Roman-like people didn't come later with the Greeks.
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No.13564977
>>13560242
The Romans died out because they were just like us, they stopped having children and started letting everyone else in and mixing with them. They replaced their working class with foreign imported workers and welfare while their ruling class did sexual degeneracy.
Augustus tried to ban adultery but by the time Rome was sacked there were no Romans left.
The only way to avoid their fate is to return to our religion, which instructs us to marry.
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No.13564978
>>13564935
the timelines and archeological context matters though, because the so called "iron age" ones apparently should span from ~700BC to ~20BC which is centuries after the incorporation of south Italy, which had already been Hellenized by that point
"Roman" can mean lots of things, I'm definitely interested in the OG Latin-Sabine Quirites of the early Republic that founded the state and institutions in the first place
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No.13565153
>>13564778
The only one that seems funny is why iberians cluster with Illyrians. meanwhile balkans today do not. I know the slavs moved in but you would still expect some clustering. The Illyrian match seems to be consistent throughout the Iberian peninsula though which makes me wonder if it is basal.
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No.13565586
Unfortunately, the wealth of Rome attracted a lot of foreigners during the Empire period. This lead to a lot of racemixing, outbreeding by the mixture of jews, egyptians and other non-white meds in the big cities.
Luckily there were still some 100% white countries to put an end to the empire's misery. Otherwise the browning of Europe would have started 1500 years earlier.
From Pierce's book:
The importance of the immigration factor is, of course, barely mentioned, if at all, in the school history texts being published today, because those who control the content of the
textbooks have planned the same fate for White America as that which overtook White Rome.
Nevertheless, the writers of Classical antiquity themselves clearly recognized and wrote about the problem, as do those few of today's professional historians with courage enough to buck the blackout on the mention of race in history. An example of the latter is the
distinguished Swedish historian Martin Nilsson, for many years professor at the University of
Lund.
In his Imperial Rome, Nilsson wrote: "Of greater variety than elsewhere was the
medley of races in the capital, where individuals congregated from all quarters, either on
business with the rulers and the government or as fortune seekers in the great city, where great possibilities were open to all. It is almost impossible for us to realize the extraordinarily
motley character of the Roman mob. The only city in our own day which can rival it is Constantinople, the most cosmopolitan town in the world. Numerous passages in the works
of Classical authors refer to it, from Cicero, who calls Rome a city formed by the confluence of nations, to Constantius, who, when he visited Rome, marveled at the haste with which all the human beings of the world flocked there….
"There were Romans who viewed the population of the capital with deep pessimism.
In Nero's time (37-68 A.D.) Lucan said that Rome was not peopled by its own citizens but filled with the scourings of the world. The Oriental (by Oriental, Nilsson means Levantine, not Mongoloid) element seems to have been especially strong."
Another distinguished historian, the late Tenney Frank, professor at Bryn Mawr and
Johns Hopkins, made a careful survey of Roman tomb inscriptions. He studied 13,900 inscriptions, separating them into categories based on the ethnicity or probable ethnicity indicated by the names and corollary evidence. Professor Frank estimated that by the end of the first century A.D. 90 per cent of the free plebeians in Rome were Levantines or part Levantines.
Fewer than ten per cent could claim unmixed Italian ancestry, and of these even fewer were of pure Indo-European stock.
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No.13565784
>>13560191
daily reminder nordicist promoters get the gladius for promoting genocide
sentence to be carried out by some guido that looks like titus
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No.13565809
>>13564930
As I said: Eat shit, fagbrain.
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No.13566969
>>13565153
>Portugese
>Thracian
???
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No.13568657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VToZ551CaxA
Ruling class of Rome was blond and red haired
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No.13570208
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No.13570220
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXqfbPOyADaV_v38Gp4CiiA/videos
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No.13570246
>>13560685
It just looks like auto focus in work in a camera.
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No.13570269
>>13570246
We actually have the original pigmentation of the Augustus of Prima Porta and this is what it looked like. This also shows that the Anglo translations of Roman words for color are wrong, 'Subflavus' for example was the Roman word for Brown but is wrongly translated as Blond.
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No.13570286
>>13564930
visited sicily. actually talked about the norman conquest with some of them. they have a racial sort of hierarchy like in america. the norman descendants are still on top they said. and yes they had blonde hair.
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No.13570298
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No.13572633
Was in a foster home where my foster mom was from Milan. Her mother was northern Italian, her father was German. She grew up in both Germany and Italy.
A teenager who knew nothing of the world at the time, I asked her why she had sandy blonde hair and blue eyes if she was Italian. She told me only far southern Italians and Sicilians looked dark, where she came from most had her more Swiss looking complexion. She also said she didn't understand why Americans think all Italians look like Sicilians. Sicily is close to Africa and they are basically considered niggers to Italians.
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No.13573011
>>13570208
well many of those were related so it might not be the best possible sample
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No.13573073
Sorry, but Romans were the same as Italians. There have been multiple genetic studies to confirm this.
>but X Roman had light hair/light eyes
There are plenty of Italians who do as well.
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No.13573746
>>13560771
Nope. It's from Egypt.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=41&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjIvenZkOrjAhVnzlkKHfm-DKYQFjAoegQIBRAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.people.vcu.edu%2F~djbromle%2Fartviewsnet%2Fportrait04%2Fnayef%2FFayumPortraitsPaper.htm&usg=AOvVaw3zL8yIEGoJXyfUClpvZGG2
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No.13573994
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No.13574010
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No.13574026
>>13560191
Romans outbred with their dark slaves. Pure Northern Europeans are closer to the original Greeks and Romans.
https://steemit.com/@voxxe
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No.13575873
>>13574026
forget steemit. whaleshares.io is a fork of steemit and allows 'pods' which stop flagging.
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