No.13477362 [View All]
Hey /pol/,
Maybe you guys can enlighten me why people get so emotional over their support of the Out of Africa theory.
I and a friend came from a round table discussion between 6 evolutionary scientists, 3 historians, 2 sociologists, 2 genealogists, 2 journalists, and 1 political scientist. There was an audience of roughly 60 people, mostly college students surrounding the round table in the center. The topic of the discussion was the Out of Africa theory; and ignoring everyone except for the evolutionary scientists there were 2 supporters of the Out of Africa theory and 4 Supporters of Multi-regional Growth Theory.
The scientists were extremely civil between each other and never once got emotional. Both groups were bringing up studies and research that supports their arguments and disputes the other side.
Everything seemed to go fine but after about 30 minutes into the 2 hour discussion everything devolved into a screaming match from everyone; including the audience, except the 6 scientists every time the Multi regional growth scientists spoke.
My friend and I are not very social or political; we mostly hang on /v/ and /a/, but we figured this would be the right place to ask this question.
I heard many people from the audience scream tons of political buzzwords and called one of the Multi-regional scientists, an African American scientist named Bernard Howard Thorpe, a coon and Uncle Tom.
There is plenty of research to support the theory but there is also plenty of research to dispute it which is why it's called a theory, not a fact. The whole point of these round tables is for the scientific community to find common ground and a consensus in order to get closer to what the facts are not devolve into a screaming match.
So, why were some many people getting so emotional over a scientific theory that has been disputed since the day it was first introduced?
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No.13498736
>>13498357
>mandela saved the world,
…literally who says this?
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No.13499347
>>13498736
He's being hyperbolic, but libshits see a literal terrorist as some saint
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No.13504449
>>13477362
It's simple, really, leftists still have not gotten over their anti-science Lysenkoism.
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No.13504763
It is funny watching all of you arguing over what kind of ape you descended from and where those apes happened to live. One evolutionary myth is just as bad as another.
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No.13504774
>>13498713
I am always jealous of someone who can get their research published in Nature. One day… But yes, a significant moment in human evolution has been established and the mainstream will not be allowed to blockade scientific truth.
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No.13504791
>>13504774
>torposter
>le enlightened centrist "you are all retards arguing unlike me"
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No.13504815
>>13504791
Centrist? Ha! I want to do what Darwin said we'd eventually do, quote
>At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes, as Professor Schaaffhausen has remarked (18. 'Anthropological Review,' April 1867, p. 236.), will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.
http://charles-darwin.classic-literature.co.uk/the-descent-of-man/ebook-page-105.asp
The progress of humanity depends on whether we or future generations accomplish this and there is no room for arguments peer-reviewed or otherwise. The time for arguments is at an end.
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No.13504846
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No.13505121
>>13478074
>2nd image
https://forward.com/scribe/414506/americans-need-a-dose-of-german-guilt/
It opens up with a long rant about christians converting to judaism.
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No.13505319
>>13504815
Darwin was a hack fraud, but since he hated niggers too you worship him.
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No.13505354
>>13505319
Your days are numbered. Join the rest of the Luddites and Lysenkoists of history as grave soil.
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No.13505388
>>13505354
>luddite
Why not just call me a heretic to science? Your religion is already obvious. Why hide it?
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No.13505398
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No.13506482
>>13479199
>Acts like she is the star of her very own jewish NPC movie
(((TV))) is satanic.
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No.13511514
>>13477802
>coon
Isn't that racist though? Double think in action.
>>13478079
Stop shilling your individualist bullshit faggot, modern society is hyper individualistic in every way except for punishing the White man.
>>13478122
>leddit spacing wew
Fuck off.
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No.13511523
Pluto. Nobody gives a rat fuck about Pluto, but new information came out and it stopped being called a planet and people lost their shit because that's what they were taught in school and the idea that what they had learned and believed in for decades turned out to be wrong shocked them so deeply that they revolted and raged against it in full denial. The Africa theory is Pluto.
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No.13511530
Whites weren't the first people to enslave blacks the common slave routes that were used by Europeans were established by Arabs.
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No.13511601
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No.13511640
>>13478021
This anon gets it.
Once it's mainstream that we're not all equal due to genetic differences the egalitarians/jews/intellectuals/etc. will deny that they ever believed in equality of outcome, and will instead shift to positions like anon suggested where they say lower IQ races need to be genetically engineered to catch up to Europeans and East Asians or we need to mix it up even more so that we actually can be genetically equal as mutts or Europeans need to do even more for non-whites since we are actually genetically superior and so in addition to affirmative action now we also need reparations and more education for non-whites and more tax breaks for non-white businesses and even more welfare money allowcated to non-whites and so on.
These people won't stop until the white race is exterminated.
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No.13511808
>>13477902
Maybe you can help me here anon as I don't get something
How closely related must animals be to breed the way humans do? I know there are near identical animals in different eco systems. They evolved the same niche in different regions. Would it be possible for these creatures to breed? Lets say a duck evolves in Canada and a duck in Brazil. Neither migrate and they look and act identical, they are the same species in everything except where they evolved from. What are the chances these can breed with each other and have viable off spring?
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No.13511897
>>13511640
even leftist kikes like David Reich just cannot hide it anymore, they can at best sugar coat it
much of the egalitarian race nonsense accumulated between 1945 and the rise of modern genetics
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No.13511902
>>13478601
y-you think anon?
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No.13512494
>>13477957
You can't produce a mountain of facts and leave out certain connections. SOMEBODY inevitably will connect the dots some time and then they can't go back.
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No.13514074
OP asks because he has no pride as a result of being completely without selfesteem. To answer your query, faggot, it's because it's insulting. One should be indignant at the suggestion that their relatives were stupid animals.
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No.13514554
>>13477362
It’s a fraudulent mess. There is no evidence people lived that far north to cross the strait. Let alone during an ice age when they are trying to get to a warmer area. However there is the pouch theory. That the first trans continental migration was from South America to Africa. From pouch to pouch. The other theory is that whites came from Asia and they were pushed out west by another tribe. Idk how you waste money on college for a humanities degree. Just spend it on traveling. The last 70 years has seen too many wars to do DNA tracking. Plus you can’t be white to do it. You have to know small political plots. For example many North Africans are Native American. And many Native Americans are of a Hindustani tribe, refugees. Anglo Saxons are not necessarily English but north Central European. Many Italians are of Spanish ancestry as well as Anatolians. Turkish people from Anatolia descend from former Asian Russian satellites. That’s why they are all 1/4 Russian. East Africans are Sudanic which is not necessarily a black race. There are several races from Africa that lack nappy hair. They live found refugee camps in Guyana’s and are moving up since they can’t go back due to the racial situation there. What this map depicts is Sudanic Immigration. If that were true than the original native Americans are Chinese. Which is a faulty observation since Sudanic genes were only carried by Asian Hashemites and they didn’t get along with Chinese they were too busy being enslaved by the Hannic. The only reason that occurred was because of Persian competition. Persians believed they had the best skin complexion of all and didn’t like to share it unless you entered into their caste. If this map were true than native Americans would be Sudanic which they are not. Technically implying native Americans are Sudanic, denisovan and Chinese. However in another study the new world peoples were considered Ne-Ander-thals. New land peoples. They were strong and stocky with developed suborbital ridges. As opposed to Sudanic which lacks it and have finer features. People migrate and not all people go to Europe or North America they abstain from there. It’s too fascist for them. Too centralized with very defined powers of opportunity due to loyal consumers. People prefer going to liberal socialist regimes or wherever there is chaos there is money. So in the last 40yrs or so you’ve seen heavy migrations between Latin America and Hindustanian India. There’s more trade there, larger population, exotic stuff, and greater opportunity for business both ways. Plus racism is not as intense as Europe. They are brown skin so they most respect each others cultural identity and affiliation everything else is go.
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No.13514557
Because it's been disproven for over a hundred years already.
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No.13514566
>>13514554
Immigration between Hindustanian India and Latin America started in the last 70 years or so. Due to catastrophe and aid. Between North Africa and Latin America, it is historical. However it had been becoming more intense since regional chiefs forced children into growing marijuana for hashish. To make ends meet. So many people bring the North African children to the Americas to avoid having them become hash or opium dealers . Since they are the most profitable cash crop that can grow in the area. And there is a market and strict laws forbidding it. Hefty sentencing.
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No.13514572
>>13514566
Europeans believe they are the only window of opportunity but reality is window of opportunity only exist via collectiveness. That North Africa nor Levant had due to geography. There was more hunger there than in Latin America once upon a time.
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No.13514610
I think the theory is great no matter how it goes.
>a) we are all from Africa, it's just niggers are fucking worthless
>b) we are all different but similar species, niggers are not our equals
I just love it.
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No.13514760
>>13477362
Modern humans are descended from the three sons of Noah, whose boat landed from the flood in the Middle-East. The niggers are the sons of Ham, who went to Africa, and forever serve the sons of Japheth.
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No.13515017
>>13477362
>>13479520
>>13481251
i dont get why its so hard to gather all evidence , evaluate it each for its own , make a list and connect the common attributes to create a most likely it happened like this picture…
as i understand there are several predecessors of species before todays human
people still cannot link "pre humans" to apes , missing link …
however this suggests the species where everything started with had been contained in this one habitat. then, they somehow evolved, probably by population growth and increase of demand for food to sustain said grown populace. they leave treelife behind and start to roam the plains for food and shelter, eventually learn to walk upright all the time and probably swimming as well…
averywhere around the planet except in this comparably small area are no humans or humanoids at that time…
basically they spread out and conquered the entire globe to a certain extent as their new habitat… view it from the eyes of all of the other species or the one apex predator at that time it must look like an anomaly… just doesnt look legit to me…
instead having a (almost) globally spread pre humanoid creature preditermined to evolve into todays humans , evolving into different species through different environmental impacts is much more likely if you look at the "end result" ( todays humans)
very hard to believe that there are almost no visible traces between certain races today if everyone evolved from the type of species branded by africas environment evolutionary wise…
check latitude and longitudal classification plus environmental effects like solar exposure presence and absence of uv radiation, desertification , predators ( competition , tigers etc.) harsh living conditions through absence of solar exposure ( ice, snow , scarcity of food plants or prey ) and the opposite, abundance of previosuly mentioned effects…
some environmental effects are more beneficial for the organism than others…
heck just look at todays society and todays humans
the human as a species , viewn as "life" its like an organism forcing itself into the environmental opportunities , like abundance of food and shelter ( supermarkets , advanced housing with controllable environmental effects a/c , heating etc… ) on the other hand managing to live and adapt to hardship desasters and poverty ( think of 3rd world countries )
fuck this could get to a religious level pretty fast like the humans who evolved into the thinking scientific nature came too close to the flame of enlightenment and became their own demise by thinking too much , rejecting their primal urges and destiny by not procreating thus getting replaced by the more the non-thinker type of human species…
fuck the deception is real if you take into account all the fucking psyop bullshit humanity has come up with during history
humanity is overrated…
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No.13516466
>>13478035
What about the partially factual negroids?
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No.13516484
>>13478611
The out of africa theory is akin to finding a piece of a cars broken tailight on the side of the road and stating the the shoe size of the vehicles first owner as fact.
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No.13516535
I have a feeling(and fear) ooa may be sort of true simply because of how climate selects hominins in the two continents. What I mean is, Eurasia is the continent that selects for smart and strong hominins but does so by heavy culling and generally keeping low populations. Africa is the opposite, shitting lots of kids like insects is the 101 survival strategy. The trouble is when climate conditions(or other conditions, like nowadays) make it such that Africans experience a population boom while Eurasians start having troubles, and the former start migrating north flooding the latter by sheer numbers and taking advantage of niche conditions. Then as the situation goes back to normal, the mongrel survivors that stay in Eurasia start undergoing heavy pressure again, and those that survive do so also thanks to former Eurasian genetics(i.e our 1-5% advantageous neanderthal/denisova input), and then the cycle starts again.
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No.13516544
Everyone from one source = everyone equal = everyone SAME = everyone interchangeable = everyone replaceable parts in globalist machine.
That is their religion.
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No.13534702
>>13478036
farmers market, hopefully.
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No.13535021
>>13477790
Yeah, Whites came from Yahweh and the other ones come from shapeshifting falling angels who began mixing the species to mock him
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No.13535131
>>13477445
Just like 9/11 exposure–here come the fucking intel community shill assets to try to make everyone look crazy. You left out your flat Earth shit too this time–dock your pay, nigger.
>>13477362
I think the main takeaway from all of this is that NPC bluepill indoctrinated goyim treat it like the holohoax–MUH FEELS MUH RAYCISMS NO ONE MAY EVER QUESTION IT EVER EVER.
If you're one of these faggot niggerkike SJWs stifling science, please do everyone a favor and download one of the suicide diagrams all over this website and fucking kill yourself before Saint Tarrant crushes you under his Emperor of Man boots.
>>13477826
What's really sad about how retarded they are is that a theory like this paints niggers as less evolved away from monkeys and crossbred likely with a leftover incredibly backward monkey, both of which are supported by DNA evidence but incredibly unflattering to niggerloving racecuck faggots.
>>13477837
This is why I am electing to just make fun of NPCs tbh.
>>13477918
>>13498357
It never ceases to amaze me. Even if all of that were true, they say it's RAYCISS to disagree with niggers and kikes. If Hitler was a nigger and a kike, then it's racist to disagree with Hitler. Gas the kikes, race war now.
>>13477957
SJWs = (((the church)))–they are ideologically identical and have the same kind of programming. The """church""" was really just proto-SJW fags.
>>13478081
No one argues via your gay talmudic terms jesusnigger.
>>13478140
>let's cover up truth because fee-fees
No, niggerfaggot.
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No.13535148
>>13516544
Checked. Why is this thread so long?
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No.13535162
>>13483334
>feeling inferior
Huh–that's actual racial supremacism. That's even more bullshit from egalitarianfags.
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No.13535190
>>13477362
I am sure the pol points has already been posted before this, so I'll add one thing
when you have been taught your entire life that the earth is flat, and some faggy ass italian comes around and starts to show you your proofs that the earth is actually a ball… well then these people gets pissed off, to the level they are demanding his head
as he is challenging their entire belief system.. because for most, that is what this is, belief… religion.
so don't you dare challenge that
for scients though, this is just part of well research. things gets disproven and turned upside down all the time. And the out of africa theory, because that is what it is a theory, well is wrong now. And on the matter, humans are a lot older than we thought.
Nothing is written in stone in researching.
ie
>Now that climate change finally have been decide..
BEEEP
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No.13535230
>>13477902
> the paradox begins because Out-Of-Africa can also be interpreted as racist, a story where everyone else is humanity left Africa and evolved while sub-Saharans are the "left behinds" of the human race; not smart, adventurous, or man enough to leave the bountiful resource rich comfort of Africa for the dangerously cold Europe, Asia, and beyond where the man who planned and not the man who ran won.
hahaha and this, you nailed it, because this is what they think. like these 1800ds type people, claiming that they are basically apes while we evolved
and this is how these people are in everything. Ted describes this so well in one of his letters
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No.13535267
>>13477902
>Finally three is the multi-region hypothesis is already proven correct. Why? Because we found out through genetic mapping humanity is really a mix of entirely different species. Neanderthal, Denisovan, and more. The one that confounds us is the admixture of the sub-Saharan Africans. Their admixture is so strange, archaic, and distant from the rest of humanity no scientist can identify it.
and here we go, you have read t his study too
and this is what we're at right now, again humans are a lot older than we think. so I don't remember the numbers in here and I am really tired. But asians and europeans haves omething like <4-5% neanderthal dna in us, meanderthal is considered an archaic human species.
but subsaharan africans they about something as much as was 15% dna, from at least one so far unknown archaic human specie.
it's too long to write, but it's interesting. They could figure this by using this regression model feeding a gigantic dataset of dna. Conclusion was
>my damn, this was new.
we're going to learn a lot more of this in the coming years, probably tons of studies on it, esp since ml has become so big too. Their model seemed rather good. I really had this set tbqh but I don't know shit about genes so I would need a genetic with me to work on the set. I can only configure the model if I know genetic shit
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No.13553051
>>13477362
>I heard many people from the audience scream tons of political buzzwords and called one of the Multi-regional scientists, an African American scientist named Bernard Howard Thorpe, a coon and Uncle Tom.
Blacks having coping issues. Africa is a shithole and has been that through ages, the Africa Theory has given them a self of an identity that they were the forefathers of all civilizations, crushing this dream of theirs is like removing the whole Wakanda fantasy the jews gave them.
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No.13553077
>>13553051
There has only been an handful of black civilizations worth of pointing out, all these have been slave trading empires that either slaved minerals from their soil and trade it abroad or sold their ethnic people abroad. These people bring nothing new to the table or the advancement of technological progress. Their history is characterized by slave labour and fast reproduction (a testament that we still see today in modern Africa).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nok_culture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMmkmHUAAO0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_empires
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No.13553102
There are no Clovis points in Alaska or Siberia, but there are pre Clovis type points in Europe.
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No.13553132
>>13553051
Africa was the birthplace of humanity as we know it, not 'civilization'.
That was Mesopotamia, or, the middle-east/Iraq as it stands now.
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No.13553144
>>13553132
false, explain to me why our oldest ancestral humans have been found in greece and arround the mediterranean.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/05/22/europe-birthplace-mankind-not-africa-scientists-find/
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/05/170523083548.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graecopithecus
>The Nazis found out a specimen in greece that predates any African evidence of human ancestry
>Just a conspiracy theory goy
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No.13553160
>>13553144
homo genus != homo sapiens species
the genus may very well have originated in Eurasia, but that doesn't mean our species couldn't have originated in Africa
still though, very recently there's been confirmation of sapiens itself in Greece quite early, even before Omo 1 in east Africa, see >>13498713
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No.13553162
>>13553077
>Their history is characterized by slave labour and fast reproduction
It must be really demoralizing being born black. Their ancestors biggest accomplishments relied on selling their lineage off as slaves to jewish merchants.
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