7ca437 No.33479[Last 50 Posts]
SOYBEAN OIL WORSE THAN THOUGHT - LINKED TO ALZHEIMER'S
In addition to turning you into a fucking tranny, of course
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/01/200117080827.htm
https://neurosciencenews.com/soybean-oil-genetics-asd-15505/
https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/vegetable-oil-the-real-culprit-behind-alzheimer8217s-disease-2161-0460-1000410-97144.html
>New UC Riverside research shows soybean oil not only leads to obesity and diabetes, but could also affect neurological conditions like autism, Alzheimer's disease, anxiety, and depression.
>Used for fast food frying, added to packaged foods, and fed to livestock, soybean oil is by far the most widely produced and consumed edible oil in the U.S., according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. In all likelihood, it is not healthy for humans.
>It certainly is not good for mice. The new study, published this month in the journal Endocrinology, compared mice fed three different diets high in fat: soybean oil, soybean oil modified to be low in linoleic acid, and coconut oil.
>The same UCR research team found in 2015 that soybean oil induces obesity, diabetes, insulin resistance, and fatty liver in mice. Then in a 2017 study, the same group learned that if soybean oil is engineered to be low in linoleic acid, it induces less obesity and insulin resistance.
>However, in the study released this month, researchers did not find any difference between the modified and unmodified soybean oil's effects on the brain. Specifically, the scientists found pronounced effects of the oil on the hypothalamus, where a number of critical processes take place.
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1e1eaf No.33511
>>33479
I fail to see the problem of soy trannies getting sick and dying.
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c954d7 No.33512
>>33511
>I fail to see the problem of normal people becoming trannies, then sick and then die.
t. kike
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f0abf2 No.33513
>>33512
>normal people becoming trannies
if man eats soy, he's not 'normal'
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c954d7 No.33514
>>33513
>what are shitparents feeding their kids soyshit
>what is industrial food like mentioned in OP
>fast food frying, added to packaged foods, and fed to livestock
If you ate a burger, you ate soyoil. Not that I recommend it but average burgermutt eats burgers.
You should also think of the effects it might have on you when consuming meat of animals fed with giant amounts of soyshit.
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d8f21e No.33530
Soybean oil is in all kinds of USA products not just tofu and edamame… Also, in the OP they mention that Linoleic acid was one of the driving factors in soy oils problems, so this would implicate any oil that is really high in linoleic acid.
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1e1eaf No.33533
>>33512
Soy doesn't magically turn you into a trannie, you fucking retard. The Chinese have been using soy beans and soy bean oil for 3,000 years. Are you going to sit there on your fat pimply ass and try to tell me that genghis khan was a trannie?
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70cf63 No.33538
>>33533
>Genghis Khan
>Chinese
also
>nomadic tribals eating fucking soybeans
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1e1eaf No.33542
>>33538
>soybeans cultivated in China (and MONGOLIA, you fucking moron) since 1100 BC.
<lol chinky man no eat beeeeeenz
Are you terrified of books or something? Are you so paranoid and insecure in your penis that you won't even so much as learn one tiny little fact because "book larnin' b 4 fayggggs"?
Either stop acting like a nigger or kill yourself now.
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70cf63 No.33544
>>33542
Mongolians (and nomadic cultures in general) didn't grow food, because they considered their earth sacred and digging wasn't allowed, they didn't even bury their dead. They were hunter-gatherers and livestock herders. If you were reading books, you'd know this.
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d8f21e No.33546
>>33542
Ok, how do you reconcile the fact that high oleic soybeans cause less problems than the "traditional" variety which has a lot of linoleic acid? I want to stay on topic of what OP presented as far as how the soybean could be an issue ( or non-issue ). Maybe the Chinese did eat soybeans for thousands of years without devolving into trannies, doesnt mean we shouldnt view everything with skepticism.
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1e1eaf No.33549
>>33544
>doesn't know what the word "cultivated" means
Ok, chief. You sure are so smrt. How about the Japanese? Also been using soy and soy related products for at least 1200 years. I guess those powerful samurai shoguns were soyboy limpwrists, eh?
>>33546
I don't really care about OP. I literally do not give a shit if trannies get diabeetus and brain rot and die.
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8dfd3a No.33568
>>33549
> I guess those powerful samurai shoguns were soyboy limpwrists, eh?
They did lose the war, yes.
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8fd618 No.33606
Been saying it for years. Sourcing good meat and cooking yourself is the quickest way to unfuck yourself. (((Factory farmed))) meat is usually fed soy and wheat, which fucks them up, meaning they need antibiotics just to not keel over. Not to mention if you eat factory farmed meat, soyshit is literally in your food.
Chickens should be cage free and eating bugs. Cows should be pasture raised and only fed grass. Additionally, virtually all restaurants/fast food/institutions cook with (((seed/bean/vegetable oils))).
Go to a farmer's market and find a local farm that advertises as being organic, grassfed, pasture raised, etc. Buy in bulk and store in a chest freezer. Cook with butter, coconut oil, or olive oil. NEVER consume vegetable oils, soybean oil, any seed oil.
Read Deep Nutrition for more info. It was recommended to me on 8/pol/ a while back, bretty good book
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1e1eaf No.33609
>>33568
>the war
Which war?
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cbe88e No.33626
>>33604
The Pacific War retard.
Asians as a whole have lower skeletal muscle mass and lower amounts of testostorone compared to Whites.
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1e1eaf No.33631
>>33626
>The Pacific War
You mean WW2? So, you think that's the only war in history the Japanese were part of? Do you also realize that the Americans were actually losing that war until they dropped 2 fucking nukes? Yeah, sure, Japan lost WW2 … after it was nuked!
Meanwhile, Americans lost a war to 5 ft. tall tunnel rats, even with superior tech, air power, and strategy. You might want to rethink who is and who is not a "soyboy".
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cbe88e No.33690
>>33631
<losing
>Had full control over every Japanese island and colony save for the home islands
<naval supremacy
<air supremacy
<only dropped bombs to save time
>"losing" kek
The Vietnam war was lost because of retarded squabbles between the military and senate and then the riots forcing them to pull out prematuraly. And the Vietkong still experinced way more casualties than America.
If a non-democratic America had invaded Vietnam it would of gone fine, but Vietnam was a useless war anyways. What's the point?
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0529a2 No.33695
>>33544
>they didn't even bury their dead
But they did, you colossal retard. What you are thinking of is the sky burial, an imported Buddhist rite, where a body is left on a mountaintop to decompose and scavenged by while animals. Genghis Khan himself was buried in an unmarked grave and had thousands of horse rode over it to hide it. Other such burials that were more normal included the usual casket and then putting up a yurt (tent house) next to it to symbolize that the place is a new home for the deceased. While they would have been nomadic and eaten mostly meat and cheeses, don't pull dumb shit like that out of your ass.
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cbcb31 No.33700
>>33549
>I guess those powerful samurai shoguns were soyboy limpwrists
>he doesn't know the history of tofu within japan
>he doesn't know that fermentation eliminates most problems with soy
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1e1eaf No.33706
>>33690
>w-we didn't lose vietnam
>it-it-it wasn't our fault
>w-w-whatever, it wasn't important D: D: D:
Ok Boomer.
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522ea6 No.33730
>>33690
No one ever wins these wars besides the banking elites and war profiteers. Very rarely does war ever have a good outcome for the masses.
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e35a9a No.33753
>>33706
No, seriously, you don’t know anything about the war or how it was run. The US won every engagement in the war. Kikes at home forced us to withdraw.
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1e1eaf No.33758
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585224 No.33761
>>33514
>>33512
Jesus fuck, stop namefagging with the sage you actual retard.
>>33533
>>33549
Chinks and other asians also aren't very masculine, if you haven't realized.
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ac2eda No.33771
In re >>33606
Lest my experience be discounted: I don't eat meat. Neither soy.
>meat
<You should also think of the effects it might have on you when consuming meat of animals fed with giant amounts of soyshit.
And I will add that industrial farming is a huge polluter on top of that.
Diet is rice, lentils, coconut oil, flaxseed oil, rice protein isolate. Also wheat bread and sugar occasionally when needing carbs.
So I'm vegan I just don't buy animal products. And it's super easy to get at least 50-70g protein, 4-5g leucine per meal. I also avoid GMOs, HFCS, fluorides, additives.
Please don't take my opinion as final just because I'm stronger and more of a man than you are.
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000000 No.33778
>>33530
Where in the article did you read that? It's stated multiple times that it made no difference whether low or high LA soy oil was used. Not arguing that LA is bad though.
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e35a9a No.33779
>>33758
>nothing resembling an argument
Thanks for admitting you were wrong.
>>33761
Imagine being as retarded as you.
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2ff3ce No.33785
>>33533
>The Chinese have been using soy beans and soy bean oil for 3,000 years.
That's because they fermented it first before consuming it. The problem here is that Amerifats don't ferment it.
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5e7da0 No.33824
>>33479
>New UC Riverside research shows soybean oil not only leads to obesity and diabetes, but could also affect neurological conditions like autism, Alzheimer's disease, anxiety, and depression.
Ray Peat has been saying this for years.
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70cf63 No.33834
>>33695
>But they did, you colossal retard.
I'm aware that they have made an exception for Genghis since he was a living legend, besides, they supposedly buried him with a hoard of valuables and forced everyone who participated to kill each other, so nobody would ever point out the place. Except that, they still believed their land as sacred so they couldn't dig graves in it. From what I read, they simply threw the bodies to the dogs.
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ac3bea No.33851
>>33606
>>33771
>>33479
Is coconut oil a meme or does it make food taste better? Nutritionally it's the same as butter or lard but 2x the price
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8ce762 No.33877
>>33851
It's a meme. Don't cook with it. Like butter and olive oil, it breaks down over about 350ish, and the parts are just crap your body has to clean up. People like butter because of the fucking salt content. And if you can't cook with it, why eat it at all?
Real butter from raw milk is nice, but you can't keep it in the fridge or it's as hard as a rock. Olive oil is all fake. Real lard is the best cooking oil. Or real bacon fat. But good luck getting bacon fat off the bacon at the store they've already sucked it dry.
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f7138d No.33885
>>33479
Soy is used as a cheap way to bind ingredients together and has replaced traditional methods because it is cheap as fuck. Chocolate has soy in it and I can guarantee everyone of you fucks had chocolate as a kid and your woman (if you fans actually get laid) eats chocolate.
To truly avoid soy you need to cook everything from scratch and any processed foods you want you either need to make yourself (such as chocolate) or search for a non soy alternative which may not even exist.
Remember you tards that you should be eating meat, fish and vegetables as at least 90% of your diet
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f9c15d No.33887
>>33877
You can get certified organic extra virgin olive oil but that shit costs a whole lot of money. I like cooking with butter and ghee but only real certified farm grade organic brands not the mass processed crap.
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8ce762 No.33900
>>33887
>certified organic
USDA organic doesn't mean a lot
>certified
extra modifier why?
>extra virgin
Pretty sure this is not an FDA-enforced term.
>olive
I think this is the color, not the fruit of origin. Like most "orange juice" which clearly does not come from oranges.
>oil
Yes this part is accurate.
>expensive
ABSOLUTELY 100% AGREE
OK you can keep cooking with butter if you wish but I'm telling you the truth, it doesn't handle heat well.
>certified farm grade organic brands
That's a lot of modifiers that I'm not sure have the value you think they have. If you're in murricy, it's either USDA organic or not. Next level is buying from local farms or local stores that buy from local farms. Stuff goes bad faster
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f9c15d No.33913
>>33900
I got to a local farmers market nearby as much as possible to get the best quality meats and veggies (supposedly they say are organic). But when I drive down to a bulk goods store (Costco) I try to get anything I can certified organic and certified non-GMO. It's hard these days because certain companies have been caught deceiving people so I always check to make sure the ingredients on the packages don't contain anything nefarious or have nasty chemicals (nitrates/nitrites, sodium benzoate, MSG, etc). If I buy bacon I'll make sure its cured in salt water that contains no nitrites. Or if I buy sugar I only buy certified organic cane sugar (not the bleached crap) even though tend to stay away from sweets.
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ac3bea No.33923
>>33913
I usually have homemade Maple syrup (not the corn syrup shit) if I am gonna have some sweets might as well have some antioxidants in it.
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e35a9a No.33937
>>33885
Make sure to check your meat sources for “soy protein”, which is used to cut the real meat down to about 5% and fill the rest with estrogen.
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291793 No.35624
>>33513
>>33511
They put soy oil into everything nowadays, just read the ingredients of the average shelf item in stores. This is a chemical attack on the masses like the water and the masses are brainwashed by the media to ignore all of it.
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3d22a3 No.35748
>>35624
Exactly
>TV: take your fluoride 3 times daily and we'll even put it into your cooking salt haha
>Hell yeah, I'm gonna have dem whitey teeth!
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d35082 No.35762
>>35624
Yep, they put it in everything. I'm aware of that. However, if what some people are saying in this thread is true, that would mean every single one of us is a tranny because "soy magically turns you into a penis cutting soyboy". Everyone ITT has been eating their body weight in soy products every day for their whole lives. So, why aren't we all manbun wearing faggots with problem glasses and a deep love of Harry Potter?
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291793 No.35893
>>35762
>Everyone ITT has been eating their body weight in soy products every day for their whole lives
Even if you weren't exaggerating the quantity of soy products consumed daily, you should know it's still bad for you. I haven't read the whole thread, but consuming copious amounts of soy will feminize men (and it makes girls enter puberty earlier and women enter menopause earlier, i.e. less time to breed). Over consumption of estrogen can also act as birth control, so there's the globalist eugenics program promoting it. A pregnant or trying-to-become-pregnant woman could miscarriage or not conceive because she's eating something like the phytoestrogen filled "impossible burger" which has extraordinarily more estrogen than a regular beef burger. Just four cups of soymilk a day and men will grow boobs (and they won't go away naturally, you'd need plastic surgery to remove them like Dwayne Johnson). Unfermented soy is unfit for human consumption and even most soy sauce today isn't traditionally fermented anymore and the added ingredients make it even worse to consume.
Just because a little soy doesn't seem to have an effect doesn't mean it's having no effect. That's like pointing to the soylent-drinking trannies and saying you can still consume soy because you're not as bad as them. Or like saying only a little fluoride/lead/chlorine/hormones/pharma by-products and only a little reduction in IQ and only a little calcification of your pineal gland isn't that bad because you're not a full retard yet. It still reduces your T-level, it still makes you docile and submissive; you just won't be as much of a faggot as the soylent drinkers because you consume less, but you will still be more docile and submissive than God designed you to be. It's basically a hormone treatment. You want to take hormones because you think only taking a little ain't so bad or something?
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444d13 No.36949
>Gooks Chinks and Nips eat soy 24/7
>have none of these problems
>redneck trailer trash eat hamburgers steaks and ice cream fried in bacon grease
>drop dead and have heart attacks in their 50s left and right
Eat more bacon, steak, and hamburgers goyim. Look how bad soy is according to this (((study))).
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291793 No.37057
>>36949
>eat soy, goyim
>it's not as bad as unclean meats
>the studies that prove soy is bad are just jewish
>it's not like zio-globalists want you to sissify yourselves and become docile and submissive faggots or anything
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84b913 No.37268
>>36949
>>37057
Gentlemen please, there must be a happy medium between being a soy fed nu male and being Billy Boomer with colon cancer from eating nothing but red meat?
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ec4f39 No.37853
>>33771
>>33877
Way to pull that out of your ass, but personally not sure I care if you buy coconut oil or not.
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136601 No.39015
A lot of this soy stuff is based on bad consumption estimates. It’s like… people eat too much fast food, because the ideal amount is zero. People don’t eat too much phytoestrogens, because it takes a fair dedication to doing so. Like, it hits SOME people, but as far as the audiences around here are concerned the right answer is more weight training, not less soy.
I don’t even approve of weightlifting, I’m just trying to bs honest about the facts as far as I know them. Which isn’t far, so don’t take medical advice from me, hehe.
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315fc3 No.39020
Oh yeah, this was mouse medicine too, hehe. It may or may not generalize. It’s pretty hard to get from mice to humans sometimes.
I wonder if a hypothalamus on its own is sapient. Maybe some enterprising 3D printing outfit can print up some model hypothalamuses to test soybean oil impacts on. If they’re lab-clean, maybe they’ll even be low enough in prion count go fry up and eat after after the study.
I mean, yum, who can resist fried brains?
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8e4945 No.39048
>>37268
You have zero knowledge about food. You don't even know why the foods you assume to be healthy or unhealthy, because you were told that they are, are supposed to be that way. You literally do not have the faintest idea what constitutes healthy food and what doesn't. Not even a clue.
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ad251b No.39318
>>33877
I doubt this anon has actually rendered their own lard. They've read some about it so they're buying lard.
>>33887
>>37853
Prepare to receive my wisdom
Ideally you do not want to introduce Commercial, off the shelf, oils, stocks, or flavoring mixtures (buillion, chili powder) into your kitchen. You want to make it yourself, even McCormick spices for your chili powder is better. ALL of these products are the WORST that industrial food has to offer. And not all industrial food is bad, but these are the worst offenders, by far.
> People like butter because of the fucking salt content.
>Real lard is the best cooking oil. Or real bacon fat.
People like bacon-flavored lard because of the taste. It's actually worse than butter, and the Indians actually do have something correct (a rarity in non-Western cooking). Ghee, or milkfat with the protein skimmed off (clarified butter) is actually one of the best cooking oils both in it's behavior at and over its smoking point, and health. If the proteins are retained, they interact with other proteins, witness Eggs and the wonderful crisping in unclarified butter that you should be attaining when you fry 3 or 4 for your brekky.
Self-rendered lard from fresh unfrozen pork is unironically one of the best. Self-rendered tallow beats it IMO, but for some reason it's harder to attain. Kidney fat from a hog is what you want, but the first rendered oil will give the 'flaking' behavior shown in kidney fat, and will indistiguishable from kidney fat even to an expert, even if the lard is rendered from hog bellies. The first render. Subsequent renderings will decrease in quality, but if you do it slow, even the final render, drained off the crispins, will be superior to store-bought Lard, which is superior to almost everything EXCEPT butter and tallow.
Schmaltz (chicken fat) is wonderful as well and I'd guess 99.9% of anons are throwing it away. The Jews know this, the properties that schmaltz has, nearly liquifying then crisping edge meat, are specific, and schmaltz isn't good on everythig, but where it excells, frying a pork chop for example, one dredged in flour, schmaltz is unparalleled.
Bacon fat contains all of the flavorings of bacon, all of the nitrites and nitrates. Ideally you should be smoking and hanging your own back, barring that, mass-produced 'Uncured' bacon is just fine. It's the nitrites and nitrates that are the problem, and while bacon grease is fantastic, BECAUSE of the shit that dissolvesin it, it's also not good for you. Not the fat, fat is wonderful, but the concentrated and half-reacted shit that comes with it. Maple flavorings, HFCS, dyes, nitrites and -ates. Pure poison.
So anons, go to your local white butcher, and ask for hog and cow fat. Trim it, render it (it's going to stink, lard will smell like Miss Piggy is having a squirting orgasm), and pour it into mason jars. It will last approximately 1,000 years on a room temp shelf.
If you buy that lard which is popular, you might as well eat manufactured corn oil.
The food system literally does not want you to be healthy. When people get the idea that finally animal fat is good for you, they STILL buy that off the shelf shit which can be gotten for almost free. It is work, it STINKS while rendering, and it is FUCKING WONDERFUL to cook with. Don't buy it, fags. You've been warned.
Your own stocks are another subject this blogpost is already too long. Self-source your own cooking fats, and you will thank me. Watch how you think if you don't believe me. The Global Combine is poisoning us through the elements we use to cook other foods, and FATS are the first target for you to eliminate from your diet. Make your own, and get based.
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652a6f No.39594
>>39318
Thanks for the information, anon, it is much appreciated.
I would definitely be interested in your other tips, such as the stock recipe/s or anything else. Perhaps you’d be so kind as to start a thread for us?
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000000 No.39824
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Vegetable oils are poison. See the embedded video.
The Weston A. Price Foundation has some good information on soy.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/soy-alert/the-ploy-of-soy/
https://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/
>>39318
>Ghee, or milkfat with the protein skimmed off (clarified butter) is actually one of the best cooking oils both in it's behavior at and over its smoking point, and health.
Could you expand on what you mean by the behavior at and over its smoking point?
Ghee is great. I use butter for lower temperature cooking and ghee for high temperature cooking like searing meat.
Don't use store bought ghee. It is overpriced and low quality. Ghee is super easy to make yourself:
https://invidio.us/watch?v=TcQbIuoC3PA
>>39318
>Self-rendered lard from fresh unfrozen pork is unironically one of the best.
Why would it matter if it was frozen or not?
>>39594
>I would definitely be interested in your other tips, such as the stock recipe/s or anything else. Perhaps you’d be so kind as to start a thread for us?
Stock is easy.
Save the bones whenever you eat meat. You can freeze them until you have enough for a batch. Cooked or raw, it does not matter.
Put the bones in a big pot, cover with water, and simmer for at least a couple hours. Strain out the bones and you have your stock.
Good stock should gel in the fridge from all the gelatin extracted from the bones.
If you want to remove the fat put it in the fridge and scoop off the fat when it hardens. Don't throw the fat away, you can use it for cooking.
I like to make a big batch and freeze it in mason jars so I always have some on hand.
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ad251b No.39894
>>39824
I just mean that ghee seems to behave quite nicely at its smoking point.
As far as frozen, well I think freezing can add some bad taste to the fat, and will rupture the fat cells which may make rendering easier but may also make the process messier. I like to pick the crispins out for the clearest lard..
I don't know if I buy all of the 'soyboy' bullshit, but maybe there's something to plant fats that makes people sick in the mind. Maybe that causes all of the transvestitism, leftism, and other mind illnesses. I can tell my mind is clearer when I use my own lard. Biscuits are god-tier with it.
Given how based Snake Juice is and his emphasis on getting the fat in ya, and the fact that most of the world is fucked up and Clownworld and those people are the biggest consumer of shit foods either processed or plant-based… there has to be a connection.
Animal fat must give your neurons the correct myelin sheath in the white matter of your brian, and the brain is made of large amounts of ready cholesterol for all of the supporting neurons.
I wonder what the connection is, that has to be it.
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ad251b No.39896
>>39594
>>39824
Seriously that is good advice for the stock.
I like to do my bones for 20 hours and add my veggie scraps in for only a few hours. Otherwise they tend to boil away the flavorings.
You're not really getting a direct injection of gelatins, that's not how it works, but the broken up amino acids, lipids, and minerals are definitely good for you, it's how humans evolved, and besides the taste is superior. It's pretty hard to miss on stock.
Just cook it as slow as possible for maximum clarity. But even if it's cloudy it's still good.
I just did a pork roast with bone in shoulder, and left the bones in there for several days reheating it on the stove. It achieved the same effect of breaking down the bones and extracting the marrow… god it was good roast.
That is how humans are supposed to cook. I wonder if I am getting toxins from industrialized ag but how can it be worse than buying stock in a wax or plastic carton?
Every time I eat something made with my homemade stock it's like telling Vegans to fuck off.
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4d0263 No.63324
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da0f0e No.63352
>>33513
It is in everything and they don't even need to tell you. You can't eat any fast food or basically anything pre-made or pre-packaged at all.
>>33530
They specifically said low linoleic versions only helped with lowering obesity and diabetes, not with the brain damage. But yes, as we've known for over 100 years, seed oils are toxic. Polyunsaturated fats should not be consumed. All (((vegetable oil))) is bad, do not eat it. The only acceptable fats are tallow, coconut oil, lard, butter, olive oil.
>The Chinese have been using soy beans and soy bean oil for 3,000 years
No, they didn't start pressing beans for oil until we showed them how, in the 1920s.
>>33606
No livestock is fed wheat, and it would be much better if they were.
>>33824
Yes. And he has been saying this based on evidence from studies that are DECADES old. This is deliberately suppressed by kikes, it has been known since the 1920s.
>>33900
Extra virgin is absolutely FDA protected. Extra virgin olive oil must be first run cold pressed zero solvent pure oil from the fruit of olive trees.
>>36949
>>Gooks Chinks and Nips eat soy 24/7
No they don't. They eat far less than the US and not as oil but as actual beans.
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ac6c51 No.63375
how mentally ill are the vegans exactly?
It must be all the herbicide that makes them go cuckoo? yes?
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ac107d No.63454
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>>63375
Its not the pesticides that hurt vegans, but their lack of B12 and other essential fats. Lack of both causes brain damage to the point where they make stupid decisions like in embed related.
>embed related
Vegans are so brain damaged they eat literal dirt to get their B12
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da0f0e No.63487
>>63454
>Vegans are so brain damaged they eat literal dirt to get their B12
And it doesn't even work. They pretend cows and deer get their B12 from eating dirt or drinking dirty water, but they don't. They get small numbers of the right kind of bacteria that way. Those bacteria set up shop in their rumens, and produce B12 there. Unless you have a rumen, eating dirt does not help with B12.
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b7462b No.63493
>>63487
It would be a fun experiment to modify a human digestive system to accommodate herbivore gut microbes. Do you think removing the appendix would leave enough space for the rumen?
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da0f0e No.63496
>>63493
I don't know, but I fully support you experimenting on vegans and finding out. Or not finding out. Whatever just go ahead and do weird surgeries on them.
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3c8921 No.63500
>>33479
Vegetable oil, soybean oil, peanut oil and canola oil are all very toxic. I have none of these in my stockup and refuse to ever use them for cooking.
What people should be using is olive oil, coconut oil, tallow, butter (or clarified butter) and/or ghee.
Any lab-created substitute to butter like margarine is highly toxic.
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1581a0 No.63506
>>39318
>Schmaltz (chicken fat) is wonderful as well and I'd guess 99.9% of anons are throwing it away. The Jews know this, the properties that schmaltz has, nearly liquifying then crisping edge meat, are specific, and schmaltz isn't good on everythig, but where it excells, frying a pork chop for example, one dredged in flour, schmaltz is unparalleled.
I had no clue about this and yet I never discarded any chicken fat as I always served it with my dishes and they are delicious that way. Good to know.
>Bacon fat contains all of the flavorings of bacon, all of the nitrites and nitrates.
I buy non-nitrite/non-nitrate bacon that has been cured in brine (salt water) from the local farmers market. It costs a bit more than the bacon you buy at the stores but worth it.
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d8f21e No.63511
>>63506
Chicken fat is HIGHLY UNSATURATED. It's like drinking the corn/soybean fat that 90% of chicken in the USA eat, so be careful.
>>63500
>Any lab-created substitute to butter like margarine is highly toxic.
Hydrogenation of fats ( to saturate them and make them harder ) isn't necessarily "toxic". It just making more saturated fats, and less liquid ( at room temperature ) ones. For someone promoting olive oil, coconut oil, tallow, ghee etc, I would think you'd appreciate that. The problem with margarine actually is that it isnt hydrogenated enough. If it was fully hydrogenated it would be too hard to keep in the fridge and have almost no trans fats.
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da0f0e No.63545
>>63511
>Chicken fat is HIGHLY UNSATURATED
No it isn't. It is 4:5:3 saturated:mono:poly. That's not ideal, and you shouldn't eat too much of it, but it is nowhere close to soy and corn oils which are around 4:5:6, or double the toxic PUFA content. It also doesn't seem to be very heavily influenced by the diet of the chickens.
>Hydrogenation of fats ( to saturate them and make them harder ) isn't necessarily "toxic"
Yes it is. The hydrogenation process creates trans fats no matter how you do it. There's no way to end up with only fully saturated fats, you always end up with a bunch of trans fats too.
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d8f21e No.63564
>>63545
Trans fats ( in vegetarian fats ) are resulted from incomplete hydrogenation of an unsaturated fat.. hence trans. If it's fully hydrogenated there's very little trans fat. Beef and Milk naturally have some trans fat also.
>It also doesn't seem to be very heavily influenced by the diet of the chickens.
It is influenced by diet because chickens aren't fermenting what they eat in the same way a cow or a goat is.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5909600/
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da0f0e No.63576
>>63564
>Trans fats ( in vegetarian fats ) are resulted from incomplete hydrogenation of an unsaturated fat.. hence trans
That's what I just told you.
>It is influenced by diet
But your study isn't using chicken feed, it is using chicken feed plus a huge dose of fat. Chickens are not fed huge doses of fat, they are fed something similar to the control diet, which was just fine. That means it would be bad if we fed chickens 25% canola oil. But we don't, we don't feed them any oil. They eat corn and soy protein with added minerals.
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0ca099 No.63612
smoking prevents alzheimer's and parkinson's disease.
it increases nitrogen flow to the body, and increases T.
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b321d2 No.63631
>>35624
>eating processed foods instead of cooking on your own
>buying fluorized salt instead of iodized salt
shiggy diggy
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ac6c51 No.63738
>>63631
soymeat is basically distilled herbicides. You might as well eat herbicides straight out of its box.
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3b4d7d No.63745
>>63612
I have heard this before and Id like some study cases and/or sources for this.
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9aaa55 No.63768
>>63745
Even if that's true, which I doubt, it's not worth being addicted to the nicotine jew.
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aa93a1 No.64252
>>63631
>>buying fluorized salt instead of iodized salt
Some countries add fluoride to iodized salt. And it's not just a little bit but rather something like three orders of magnitude higher than the iodine content. It still ends up counted as iodized salt despite this.
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36c509 No.67188
>>33511
most people work with evil because they're brainwashed, we're not suppose to spill all the blame on them.
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21f9e7 No.67202
Soybean oil is in fucking everything now. How the hell can you possibly avoid it?
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36c509 No.67212
>>33913
Rule 1 of grocery shopping:
THE MAGNIFICENT FIVE
Flour
Milk
Sugar
Oil
Starch
Avoid all foods with these ingredients, you obviously won't find it in pure meats and vegetables, in most pre-produced multi-ingreditent snacks and other foods, you don't need it, if you're hungry you're better off with nothing (water)
Carbohydrates are needed for high-brain activity but you shouldn't use the crappy carbs as a replacement, raw vegetables ARE carbs (but regarded as neutral in terms of mixing) but they won't feel as energizing because it a better way, delayed(digestion normal, not too fast) and you will survive.
But this is really not complete info, it would take a heck of a lot of writing, so do research.
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d35082 No.67219
>>67212
Nigga, those are literally my 5 major food groups. You're saying no grains, no dairy, no rice, no potatoes, no fruits ….
I eat that shit all day, every day, and I'm 100% healthy. Where are you getting this information?
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667f65 No.67521
>>33479
> obesity and diabetes, but could also affect neurological conditions like autism, Alzheimer's disease, anxiety, and depression.
It's probably also linked to democrats not getting the presidency.
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667f65 No.67523
>>63500
>Vegetable oil, soybean oil, peanut oil and canola oil are all very toxic.
How do you suggest to demonstrate the toxicity of these oils?
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667f65 No.67524
>>67219
The Food Groups are
* Things that move
* Things that come out of things that move
* Rice
* Cigarettes
> What happens when they give school away for free.
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d35082 No.67626
>>67524
>Rice
Rice is a starch. Nigga said to avoid starch.
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d8f21e No.67630
>>67523
According to the OP, it seems "linoleic acid" in those oils is the problem.
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36c509 No.67981
>>67219
Naaah, it's the context I didn't mention sorra, not all of them in general, but the literal ingredient labels on those snaks and all kinds of pastry foods, including canned foods and sauces, you're only suppose to buy like 20-30 food items from a grocery store and that's it and those are all the little ones included.
However anything that comes from WHEAT is off the list, even if it is natural because GLUTEN is a natural digestion disrupter, natural toxin defense of the plants, it makes animals sick if they eat, so they don't overeat, DURUM also, yes it's better than WHITE FLUOUR but still it has gluten an other things.
Rice is okay but it's sugary if cooked too much, you need to cook it just right, but not too low, has to be chewable but a bit tougher not like a mush, also take longgrain brown rice.
Potatoes are okay but again it's glucose so the carbs by necessary cooking get broken down, and eating too much too fast is bad as it makes sugar spike, but it's a lot better than wheat and all of the gluten grains.
Don't eat carbs alone, eat leafy green vegs along with water to dilute sugar in blood or else too much sugar spike concentration bad for health. DO NOT EAT FATS WITH CARBS !!!!! No oils, no nuts.Protein only the mild ones such as easily digestable, NO hard/rich proteins such as MEAT or eggs. Research food mixing charts.
You are definitely not as healthy on that diet, body needs proteins for repair and connective tissue, carbs are only energy and have no anti-viral or anti-bacterial or any anti-oxidant capability, carbs and sugars are primary fuel for infections. If you get sick it's the worst thing, you may be healthy because of the reserve you have left but you are slowly draining that reserve.
You need to do chicken and/or beef soups and avoid eating meat every day it takes too much energy to digest and you can get net negative in the balance in the end.
Make sure you drink water, skip all beverages, it'll take a few months to get used to, the sugar in beverages is like a drug it takes time to get off because body has to learn to swith to fats for energy and not rely on easy carbs, single biggest important thing.
Don't play with vegetable oils, not all of them are even edible, just because it's an oil, canola oil is probably highly questionabe, they're far less healthy as they say because you need so many obstacles to come over, it has to be cold pressed and how are you going to know that unless you try some real high quality oil to compare with others, you need a trusted source, then it has to be stored in refrigerator and sunlight blocked at all times, these oils are unstable and will go rancid, they become a big poision, don't bother with grocery store oil they store it for week under those toxic LED (bad spectrum) lights, and room temperature.
Nuts which contain Omega3s have to be fresh and SHELLED as possible because they can get very toxic and if they're not stored properly and have vulnerability to grow fungus and yeast which can infest your body but also produces highly deadly toxins in the walnut it self. Store bought nuts are a waste of time, unless you find the exception of shelled/unshattered ones which are only a few months old at maximum, most grocery stores sell 2-3 year old nuts that's total horsecrap, these are highly toxic and if you taste the bitterness you should STOP immediately and throw it away.
Why is linoleic acid bad … well because if you eat too much one type of omega fats the RATIO BETWEEN THEM (9-6-3) gets out of whack, plus most of the products have damaged omega6 anyway so what these studies don't consider is the QUALITY of the different sources/products of fats, but it would take a much much larger study to do that good.
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f88c4b No.68020
I can't imagine anyone here is using soy oil or has anything to do with soy.
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f88c4b No.68024
>>33533
Look at the Asian male body anon. They have lowtest shape and almost no body hair, cannot grow much in the way of facial hair, and have have funsize penises. The devastating effects of a high soy diet is on display throughout China and Japan.
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f88c4b No.68026
>>33533
>nomadic hunters cultivating anything
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36c509 No.68028
I wrote in a hurry and evening, so the post is a bit shaky, .. if anyone has question or something I missed I can add, but humans werent designed to eat 3 big meals per day every day.
We are so hungry because we eat wrong foods and because lifestyle is stressful and digestion does not do good enough and not efficient enough, but also we need more energy for the super high-paced modern demands in life, need to relax down a bit.
Do not eat when stressed, do not get stressed 30-90 minutes or so after eating it will disrupt digestion heavily, undigested food will enter the next stages of the digestion process and will cause problems, the stages and their gut bacteria are not designed to process those partially digested pieces and will behave incorrectly, producing wrong substances that may be toxic to your body, and other effects such as irritating the intestinal walls, excess gas, bloating, and promoting disbiosis where gut bacteria balance goes out of whack if it becomes a chronic thing etc.
DO NOT EAT FRUIT AND PROTEIN TOGETHER
DO NOT EAT FRUIT AND FATS/NUTS TOGETHER
DO NOT EAT CARBS AND FATS/NUTS TOGETHER
DO NOT MIX BANANA AND MILK
DO NOT USE MICROWAVE OVEN (no brainer)
DO NOT EAT NUTS MORE THAN 6-7 MONTHS OLD, EXCEPT IF DETERMINED OKAY WHILE IN REALLY GOOD STORAGE CONDITION.
DO NOT EAT NUTS WITH SIGNS OF FUNGUS OVERGROWTH (WHITE SCARRS, PATCHES, WHITE NETTING OR DUST)
DO NOT EAT NUTS THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY DARK OR BROWN WITH BITTER TASTE, WHITNESS LEVEL OF THE NUT MEAT INSIDE DETERMINES FRESHNESS.
ALWAYS KEEP NUTS CLOSED IN SHELL IN STORAGE, COLD AND DARK. EXCEPT IF THEY ARE WET DRY THEM IN COLD SHADE.
Do not try to work hard after eating, let relax so it can digest.
If you are mostly on sugary diet and want to switch then stop eating for 2-3 days and only drink water to reset the digestive system initially, you'll still be eating a chunk of carbs later but keep slowing it down, this may be harder than it sounds, if you feel dizzy then do go eat a little bit, in most cases it may take weeks or months to slowly reduce sugar intake without withdrawal effects, if you don't feel anything bad then just continue without too much carbs, but certainly don't go out of the way to avoid all carbs, that will make you super sluggish and sleepy, the target is overating, if you ate 200 grams of carbs in morning, you don't need another liter of sugary soda for lunch for example. You must remove easily accesible sugars and carbs from immediate vicinity, do not store large amount of bread or snacks at arms lenght or at walking distance in the house, the brain will go after bread first, rather try to plan ahead and cook potatoes and perpare salad (without oil when eating carbs) so that when you think you're going to be hungry you are eating rather than rushing and eating something else while it's cooking.
The big thing is to have a good plan and have all the foods ready before attempting this, removing the bread will not help if the potatoes aren't ready to be dropped into water or similar, but only temp storage in kitchen, the big storage would be in basement ofcourse.
Do not just switch to fats, don't play with ketogenic diet either until you research it top to bottom, it can be unhealthy if overdone, do not fast for more than 3-4 days without doing more research.
DO NOT FAST IF YOU ARE UNDERWEIGHT OR FACING AN INFECTION, you need the supply of good food and vitamins, but not hard food such as meats that take energy to digest, when sick you need to do liquids, mix vegetables fresh and drink, eat lots of vitaminc foods but do NOT put them in hot tea it will destroy the vitamin C, heat intolerant, same for vitamin B.
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5d1b10 No.68071
>>68024
body and facial hair is genetics, not t level.
>thinking japan is soy
only post bombing. the samurai were anything but soyboys
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251461 No.68079
>>68028
>do not eat fruits & nuts together
Fucking retards and schizos need to fuck off from this board
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d35082 No.68083
>>68024
You seem to have examined Asian male bodies extensively.
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36c509 No.68172
>>68024
That's right, Soybeans are full of phytoestrogens that lower testosterone, it's a perfect globalist poison diet.
Not just that, Japan is highly technologically advanced in the sense of all the radiation from devices, and that's probably a huge factor for low fertility.
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36c509 No.68193
>>68079
You are simply ignorant, it's okay. Nuts are categorized in their own group due to their mix of amino acids (protein group) and fatty acids (unsaturated fat group).
Nuts either don't or contain very low amounts of sugar, (0.1% or even less) and about
Sugars is a carbohydrate too, but a much simpler one and has different behavior when eaten/digested so that's why they're grouped such. Carbs on the label usually means medium and complex carbs, they release energy slower as it takes more time for digestion.
Sugars are responsible for sugar spikes in blood, which is one of the big factors for diabetes type 2 and such.
Sugars take less stomach acid to digest, ph is much lower and the body adapts to that and sets the ph level accordingly, when eating fats and protein the ph level required to activate enzymes for that needs to be much lower, if you eat these foods together a digestion confusion occurs and digestion of everything is slowed or even comes to a standstill, this makes food to start rotting inside your stomach and produces toxins, this leads to all kinds of problems with the before mentioned partially digested food, you don't even get the energy out of that food because it's all inefficient.
The body is designed for what the historical people of africa had the lifestyle of hunter-gatherer and when you hunted for meat you didn't have bananas just laying around, or at least that kind of mix probably wouldn't be able to happen on a chronic level, and probably wouldn't taste good anyway, because there was no huge excess of food, they ate what they had at hand, when they search for food they eat some berries along the way and fruits are digested fast so as little as 20-30 minutes is enough and the stomach is ready for a different food type, the stomach actually pre-allocates enzymes and prepares the juices up to an hour ahead depending on the signaling the body is receiving, if hunters hunted for meat it would prepare for meat, the smell of cooking meat and fats does this, that's why it's a bad idea to eat any other food type while you are smelling the meat that is being cooked, you are interferring with the process and body is forced away from the optimal conditions.
Now we have all the foods in front of our nose and all these combinations have been created that were never natural, the modern culinary recipies are infact all based on taste, never on health, a total joke.
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e34d87 No.69646
Guys, I sometimes cook chinese food and use soy sauce.
Is this okay?
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8064a7 No.69750
>>33690
We never belonged there in the first fucking place, and it's because of us that Pol-Pot came to power.
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b45083 No.107860
>>33533
>Ghenghis Khan
>Chinese
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ba8105 No.107891
>>69750
I believe soy sauce is okay but I still wouldn’t eat a shit ton of it.
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87557d No.108629
>>69750
you can thank France for being cowards and begging us for our help then hauling ass from there colinized Vietnam
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b0fc25 No.108661
This stuff is great, doesnt have really any flavor, i use only flax oil or butter.
Flax oil is also full of Omega acids.
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fe4e95 No.112842
>>33511
>I fail to see the problem of soy trannies getting sick and dying.
Most white kids are going to public school. Public schools feed kids soy. Way to write off the future of our race, dipshit.
>"Well, they should be home schooled, anyway" - You, probably
Yeah, I tried that when I was a teen. A truancy officer came to our apartment and drove me back to the high school.
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aa997e No.113039
>>33771
>So I'm vegan
opinion discarded.
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af7b0f No.113042
ah yes, millions of people getting fucked over by corporate America once again, and like always, nothing will be done.
this is why the country needs to burn.
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baa2ed No.113178
> All these lengthy posts about nutrition theories, mixing foods and so on that say nothing to me
I don't know I guess posters from US have a lot less regulations and safeties in place when it comes to food quality compared to Europe. I just eat meat almost every day, I eat some veggies, I drink a lot of milk. I also eat cookies, custard, chips sometimes some ice cream and sometimes a couple glasses of wine. I think I'm pretty healthy and the food I buy is of decent enough quality. I don't think I ever in my life have experienced illnesses because of my diet.
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63ebb3 No.113183
>>108661
>Flax oil is also full of Omega acids.
Not DHA. Just eat fish instead of feeding yourself that crap.
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63ebb3 No.113184
>>33771
>Diet is rice, lentils, coconut oil, flaxseed oil, rice protein isolate. Also wheat bread and sugar occasionally when needing carbs.
Good luck with managing your multiple health issues that will inevitably arise.
>Please don't take my opinion as final just because I'm stronger and more of a man than you are.
As if.
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