cf9d7a No.217166[Last 50 Posts]
For all the anti-Christians here claiming Christianity is jewish subversion…
Please consider this version of Christianity with the Jewish subversion removed.
Don't group all Christians together.
pic related
TLDR: If you take the books of Mark & John by themselves, you'll notice there is absolutely no jewish subversion. Everything you complain about in Christianity comes from the Gospels of Mathew and Luke, and of course Paul's books which account for most of the new testament.
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671292 No.217168
All Scripture is good for teaching (2 Timothy 3:16).
There is no "Jewish subversion" in the New Testament because the ancient Israelites were related to Greeks and not modern-day kikes.
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a4cfe6 No.217171
(( >>217168 ))
>were related to Greeks
we wuz the real joos en sheeit. I'm Greek and we have nothing to do with kikes, either ancient or the modern ones
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770627 No.217181
OT is good and NT is good too. Just read the texts in good faith and using your own mind too, unlike >>217168 who quotes some phrase from a personal letter of Paul to Timothy as holy law. Paul could write about farts and stomach aches and retards like him would see some divine meaning to it. Don't forget they are called testaments for a reason.
Pic related is a good read if you want to milden your stance to christianity and are anti christian right wing.
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5da906 No.217186
>>217166
Fuck off purple faggot cunt
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226a44 No.217188
A Christianity fit for a war on the ZOG would be a like Marcion levels of anti-Kikery, plus a belief in the necessity of a war on the Demiurge aka the demonic father of the Kikes.
Marcion used a version of Luke that scholars are finally starting to realize was actually probably the original document. It doesn't contain a virgin birth narrative either, and is quite different in a number of ways from the altered version Christfags read today.
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7cb76a No.217193
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9815b7 No.217194
>>217166
>cherry picking
lol
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a7c851 No.217199
>>217194
>you're cherry picking lol
cherry picking refers to picking and disregarding certain verses within the same book.
the bible isn't a book. it's a compilation of books; and different sects of christianity have different chosen compilations: catholics, eastern orthodox, baptists…etc
8pol Christianity is picking whole books out of the Constantine bible compilation, not cherry picking verses
What's so hard to believe that Mark & John were the original message, then in response some jews crafted 2 subverted Gospels Matthew & Luke to match & mix…
Motive was to change original christianity which was condemnation of judaism, and change it a praise of judaism.
pretty efficient, yet obvious when you see of the four gospels (the heart of christianity), EVERYTHING jewish is in matthew and luke.
if it wasn't a subversion technique then you'd expect for the jewish stuff to be spread out. it's not.
>>217181
>who quotes some phrase from a personal letter of Paul to Timothy as holy law.
well said anon.
>OT is good and NT is good too.
wait what? you make a crack about how the Paul books are rediculous to consider as holy law, but then you say the entire OT & NT is good? this is double think.
m5-38w
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9815b7 No.217200
>>217199
>changing the definition of "cherry picking" to suit your personal narrative
lol
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824c23 No.217203
This is Christian board, Christ Jesus is king, nobody can deny this, we love God here.
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35fce9 No.217204
>>217200
i suppose you call every other sect of christianity besides your own with a different bible compilation cherry pickers. genius.
roman catholic, greek orthodox, eastern orthodox, protestant, anglican, many others
of course your sect is the best. no need to think any further. (sarcasm)
m5-38w
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a4cfe6 No.217221
>>217203
You're lying by deceitfully interchanging Yahweh ( יהוה ) with God ( ᚷᛟᛞ or Godan ᚷᛟᛞᚨᚾ ). All Jew worshipping Christfags are compulsive liars. No one cares about your Jew god Yahweh that you're hiding here. The god Godan ( God or ᚷᛟᛞ ) is the name of the chief god among many others in the polytheistic Germanic pantheon. Godan is our Aryan/pagan god from white man's Europe. You can't talk about Yahweh and call him God. Yahweh and Godan are two very different gods from two different continents.
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770627 No.217223
>>217199
My qualm was with the common practice of quoting some phrase from the bible and then presenting it as an imperative command to be followed, or else.
For example, all of Paul's epistles are good when understood as guidance by a man in a position of religious leadership to specific groups of those early christians or even specific persons, that loses some validity when understood in other contexts. If you read it like so, I'm sure you'll find little to complain with Paul. The only qualms I had was sometimes the cynical and melancholic direction some of his words have, like his positions on celibacy. Also, the infamous "neither greek nor jew" are Paul's words and are used in his attack on circumcision, and not some universalist pro human rights lefty call.
I don't remember any particular differences between Mattew and Mark, so I don't really see what's wrong with it.
Luke on the other hand, is quite different, and recognizes so right at the beginning of the gospel: it is a secondary witness report.
Ultimately, the fundamental problem is that kikes managed to successfuly confuse themselves with the jews of ancient times in the minds of many, which poisons the biblical narrative when reading the Bible.
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770627 No.217225
>>217221
>Godan is our Aryan/pagan god from white man's Europe. You can't talk about Yahweh and call him God. Yahweh and Godan are two very different gods from two different continents.
That's a nice copypasta there, but what now?
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46a245 No.217226
>>217203
>This is Christian board
No it isn't. >>>/christian/ is a Christian board. /pnd/ has several religions represented.
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a4cfe6 No.217231
>>217225
>One scholarly theory connected with this holds that 'Yahweh' is a shortened form of the phrase ˀel ḏū yahwī ṣabaˀôt, (Phoenician: 𐤀𐤋 𐤃 𐤉𐤄𐤅𐤄 𐤑𐤁𐤀𐤕)
Things that sound the same do not have the same linguistic root fren.
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9815b7 No.217232
>>217204
>every other sect of christianity besides your own
I'm not Christian. I'm too old to believe in fairy tales.
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9815b7 No.217233
>>217203
>Christ Jesus is king
… of the jews.
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671292 No.217237
>>217171
>>217181
1 Maccabees 20-23
>Areus, King of the Lacedemonians, to Onias, sendeth greeting … we have discovered that both the Jews (Judahites) and the Lacedemonians (Spartans) are of one stock, and are derived from the kindred of Abraham … This letter is four-square; and the seal is an eagle, with a dragon in his claws"(Ant.12:4:10).
Sorry, kikes. But you aren't chosen.
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7cb76a No.217245
>>217233
Checked. Odin is the king of the White Man
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a4cfe6 No.217246
>>217237
>spartans hate macedonians
>macedonians rule over all of asia minor
>macedonians enforce Zeus worship in synagogues instead of Yahweh
>jews collaborate with sparts to revolt
>add some schizo kin thing in their book, as in jewish mythos, collaboration is ethnonational
>retards 2300 years later think they wuz brown jews because of that
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671292 No.217248
>>217246
>literally didn't happen
Even the arch-nemesis of ancient Israelites were Europeans.
Sorry, Moshe. But Biblical history is European history.
YOU. ARE. NOT. CHOSEN.
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a4cfe6 No.217250
>>217248
You absolute retard, another reason I rejected christkikery is cause they hated Philistines. Philistines were a result of an admixture of cretans(Greeks) and semitic populations. Why would I follow a Bible that teaches hatred towards my kin?
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671292 No.217256
>>217250
>Philistines were a result of an admixture of cretans(Greeks) and semitic populations
So Philistines were mutts and Israelites were Europeans who made laws against race-mixing and you prefer the mutts…? Seems legit.
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a4cfe6 No.217258
>>217256
>So Philistines were mutts and Israelites were Europeans who made laws against race-mixing and you prefer the mutts…? Seems legit.
NO, ISRAELITES ARE NOT EUROPEAN. PHILISTINES WERE EUROMUTTS. IS IT TOO MUCH FOR YOUR PEA SIZED BRAIN TO UNDERSTAND
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671292 No.217260
>>217258
New Testament says Israelites were related to Greeks. So yeah: They were Europeans. Whereas you just claimed Philistines were Europeans mixed with Semites. And Israelites were Europeans who made laws against race-mixing, so the whole feud between Israel and Philistine was the issue of race-mixing, or whether to be degenerate or not.
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a4cfe6 No.217266
>>217260
>New Testament says Israelites were related to Greeks.
where? You gave a old testement deuterocanon verse that protestants don't accept.
>And Israelites were Europeans who made laws against race-mixing
All genetic evidence shows otherwise. Also, art portrays them as olive skinned. But nevertheless they were SEMITES who spoke a SEMITIC language and worshipped SEMITIC deities. Not white/Indo-European
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671292 No.217268
>>217266
>muh protestants
i dont care about uneducated fake christians.
See
>>217237
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671292 No.217270
>>217266
>muh semitic language
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a4cfe6 No.217272
>>217270
Hmm interesting. Any source for these translation?
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671292 No.217274
>>217272
You can Google the Biblical Hebrew for the verses given?
>pics related
Biblical history is European history. Ancient Israelites were Europeans who mixed among themselves (Welsh and Greeks, for example) but who outlawed mixing with Semites. Philistines were Europeans who mixed with Semites. The entire Old Testament feud between Israelites and Philistines was over the Philistine's choice to race-mix and destroy their heritage.
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a4cfe6 No.217276
>>217268
>i dont care about uneducated fake christians.
>muh real sect is the real one
>>217268
Book of Maccabees is Old Testament.
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671292 No.217278
>>217276
>Book of Maccabees is Old Testament.
So what? The original OT Israelites themselves claimed Jews (Judahites) were related to Greeks. The Old Hebrew language comes from Phoenician which came from old Welsh (Source: https://dnaconsultants.com/phoenician-descent-in-modern-times). And you yourself admitted that the Philistines were also European, only they had mixed with Semites, which means Israelites were Europeans who did not mix. What is your point exactly? The evidence is against you.
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a4cfe6 No.217279
>>217278
Ngl this seems very interesting, I'll give it a look and respond tomorrow because it's late. Goodnight fren.
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671292 No.217280
>>217279
>3 am in israel
It is late. Time to shut it down. Have a good night, Moshe.
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3bde28 No.217283
This is far too short-sighted.
To fix the bible you have to fix the (((translation))) not remove pieces you don't like.
To start REMOVE ALL the word 'jew', it's a new word from only the 1850s.
All mention of jew are most likely Judean (of Judea) of which was a Christian state.
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fe5804 No.217307
>>217193
What a powerful image!
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a4cfe6 No.217316
>>217280
Greece and Israel have the same time-zone.
Your source is shit and doesn't say anything about old Welsh coming the Phoenician.
The ALPHABET came from Phoenicians and that's a theory, we aren't sure yet. The most possible theory is that it went Phoenician ->Greek(we added vowels)-> Etruscan -→ Latin
But that's the alphabet, not the language. Phoenician and Hebrew are still semitic, not European.
The philistines had Greek roots. The israelites did not have European roots. Unless you have other evidence to convince me.
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671292 No.217317
>>217316
>I'm totally from Greece, the place we've been discussing all day
>I'm NOT a Christ-hating kike in Israel lmao…
Scripture itself affirms the Israelites had European roots in 1 Maccabees. Fuck off kike.
YOU ARE NOT CHOSEN
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1b974a No.217319
Christianity will be stained with jew-brainwashing as long as you keep accepting the old testament in it. It says very, very clearly within that the jews are God's chosen people in no uncertain terms (or judean for the people ITT, it makes no real difference). As long as you accept the old testament, you tacitly accept zionism. Modern Christians will never accept this, however, because it means that the modern variant of the New Testament was altered by a 3rd party (probably the catholic church) at some point in time to appease jewish populations. This can be seen in the fact that the New Testament "reconfirms" the old testament repeatedly despite being diametrically opposed to it thematically, and often times demands opposite behavior (ex: animal sacrifice).
Ask yourself this, what is more likely? Did Jesus appear before the jews because they were indeed God's chosen people and they were just so much more deserving than everyone else, or did he appear before them because they were uniquely evil and needed guidance?
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671292 No.217322
>>217319
Modern Jews aren't related to the ancient Hebrew or Israelite peoples. They were Europeans. Post yfw the white man was God's originally chosen people and all the promises you attributed to Jews were actually given to Europeans. Just read this thread before making some smooth brain post pls.
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1b974a No.217323
>>217322
Oh yes, the real Europeans lived in the desert in the middle east, how could I forget.
No, that's a stupid fucking cope to make up for the fact that the old testament is jewish satanism.
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671292 No.217324
>>217323
Read the thread before posting or go back to 4/pol/. See:
>>217237
>>217248
>>217274
>>217278
Don't be fucking dumb, bro.
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7cb76a No.217330
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a4cfe6 No.217382
>>217317
I said it >>217171 you blind retard.
>>217324
You are shilling (((Christian Identity))) you absolute kike. Fuck off, see the second picture here >>217171
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a3874e No.217385
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671292 No.217387
>>217382
Let me know when you have an argument, Moshe.
YOU ARE NOT CHOSEN
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e97477 No.217411
>>217166
All Abrahamism is cancer. All.
Rotten tree, rotten fruit.
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a3874e No.217414
>>217387
(((Kike on a stick)))
Ever wonder why 50% (100%) of kikes have a (((mental illness))) which is defined as permanent delusion? Even kikes determined that assigning a magical significance to numbers is schizophrenic as fuck! )-)-$-$-$-$-$-!hahahhahahahaha you dedicated your whole life to worshiping an imaginary friend , and in the process you were a massive scumbag , always justifying your lack of ethics with (((but im more betterer than you because cheese-its said so!!)))
Crucify yourself! Italians are so fucking gross!
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671292 No.217415
>>217414
Fuck off Israeli.
YOU ARE NOT CHOSEN
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a4cfe6 No.217442
>>217415
In the Gospels:
Matthew 1:1-17 and Luke 3:23-38 emphasize that Jesus was Jewish and a descendent of David.
Matthew 10:5-6 - Jesus instructs the disciples to take the Gospel to the Jews first, not the Gentiles.
Matthew 15:21-28 - Jesus tells a Gentile woman that he was sent to save the Jews first.
The Jews are far from being the only ones involved in Christ's persecution and crucifixion. Pilate let Jesus be crucified despite realizing his innocence (Mk 15:9-15) and the Roman soldiers mocked and persecuted Jesus, as well as doing the actual crucifying (Mt 27:27-31, Lk 23:11, 35-37).
John 4:22 - "Salvation is from the Jews" (i.e. from Jesus, David's descendant).
In Acts:
4:27 - Herod, Pilate and the Gentiles in Jerusalem (not just the Jews) conspired against Jesus.
11:1-18 - In the account of Peter and Cornelius, the Jews are amazed that God is merciful enough to save "even the (unclean) Gentiles."
14:1, 17:10-12 - Paul follows Jesus' model of going to the Jews first, and many Jews accept Jesus as the Messiah.
In the Pauline Epistles:
Romans 1:16 - Salvation is "first for the Jew, then for the Gentile".
Romans 9:1-5 - Paul (who is Jewish) describes his desire for the Israelites to receive Christ and the honors the Israelites have received, including that Jesus' human ancestry was through them.
Romans 11:1-24 - Paul warns the Gentiles against boasting, comparing them to wild olive branches and the Jews to cultivated olive branches.
Romans 11:28 - Even those Jews who reject Christ are to be "loved on account of the patriarchs."
Romans 15:27 - "For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews' spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings."
Galatians 2:7-9 - At least three of the apostles had a specific ministry to the Jews.
Galatians 2:11-13 - Rather than an anti-Semitic prejudice, the early church had if anything a pro-Semitic prejudice.
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ddee47 No.217448
OP Here.
>>217319
>Christianity will be stained with jew-brainwashing as long as you keep accepting the old testament in it. It says very, very clearly within that the jews are God's chosen people in no uncertain terms.
If you read the OP, you'll see that 8pol Christianity doesn't accept the Old Testament except for 2 books: Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Daniel is debateable.
Isaiah 45:7: I am he that prepared light, and formed darkness; who make peace, and create evil; I am the Lord God, that does all these things.
Meaning God created evil jews for his purpose, to use as a final test on those he loves, or as a weapon against those he hates.
>>217442
>John 4:22 - "Salvation is from the Jews" (i.e. from Jesus, David's descendant).
It's salvation is OF the jews. not FROM. meaning salvation has a lot to do with the jews.
meaning salvation involves resisting evil jews.
I don't see how "kike on a stick" jew obsessed National Socialists can deny this form of Christianity is at least 1000% better than the other versions. JESUS IS NOT JEWISH IN 8POL CHRISTIANITY.
m5-38w
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57fdf0 No.217452
>>217448 addition:
>>217442
also forgot to mention, all the jew worshipping verses you mentioned were from matthew, luke, or paul. so you've proved the point of this thread.
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a4cfe6 No.217453
>>217448
Read the context of the verse.
21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”
25 The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”
26 Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”
>we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews
>we
So not only is he saying that the jews are correct because they worship Yahweh/The Father, but also Jesus belongs in the "we", he is also a Jew.
>inb4 cope
I don't get why you would to worship kikes instead of just becoming pagan.
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671292 No.217508
>>217442
>Matthew 1:1-17 and Luke 3:23-38 emphasize that Jesus was Jewish and a descendent of David.
The word "Jew" isn't in the Bible and wasn't invented until the 1800s. The word used is "Judahite" and "Judean" which referred to someone from the land of Judah. "Jews" are not descended from the Hebrews or Israelite peoples.
YOU ARE NOT CHOSEN
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1c7de0 No.217554
>>217453
>Read the context of the verse.
If this is this the only verse in Mark & John gospels that you have room to argue about, then my point is proven.
Especially if you bring the differing original greek manuscripts of this one verse, it leaves a lot of room for interpretation.
Codex Bezae is the best source. IMO: https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04083a.htm
and it's OF jews. not FROM jews. stop misquoting that.
m5-38w
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c8bf1a No.217555
>>217166
Accurate.
iirc, historians present at Jesus' crucifixion recall him crying out in Aramaic. not sure if helpful or not.
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9815b7 No.217559
>>217554
>now he's pretending to know Greek
lol
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593463 No.217565
>>217554
Fuck off purplefag
Stop spamming up every thread with your gay shit.
Also stop being a fucking tripfag.
Also stop having aids
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e53586 No.217602
>>217508
> from the land of Judah.
THEREFORE JUDEN. I DON'T LIKE JUDEN. KYS. In Greek jew is literally Hebrew/Εβραίος.
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671292 No.217604
>>217602
Jews does not equate to Juden.
"Jew" wasn't even a word until the 1800s.
When you can muster enough brain cells to acknowledge that "Jews" are not related to the Hebrews, Israelites, or Judeans let me know.
YOU ARE NOT CHOSEN
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e53586 No.217608
>>217604
>When you can muster enough brain cells to acknowledge that "Jews" are not related to the Hebrews, Israelites, or Judeans let me know.
Are you completely retarded? I just told you: Germans use the word Juden<Judah and Greeks use the word Εβραίοι<Hebrew. The word used in the Septuagint (oldest Bible translation, written in Greek) is Εβραίοι, same word we use to refer to jews today.
This means that Greeks and Germans viewed them as israelites, unless you deny the outright linguistic evidence.
Jew-> Middle English: from Old French juiu, via Latin from Greek Ioudaios, via Aramaic from Hebrew yĕhūḏī, from yĕhūḏāh ‘Judah’ (see Judah).
<Your semitic pilpul is not working here Moshe
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671292 No.217610
>>217608
Εβραίοι does not equal "Jews." Any time we see the term "Jew" used in relation to Judean, Judahite, Hebrew, or Israelite, it's a deception considering the word "Jew" wasn't invented until the 1800s. Do you grasp this concept? That the term "Jew" did come into being until the 1800s? Yehudi is not "Jew." There isn't even the letter "J" in Hebrew. Do you grasp this concept or nah?
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e53586 No.217612
>>217610
Okay you're clearly trolling so I won't keep biting. It's 4:08 AM you yid. Go to sleep.
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671292 No.217613
>>217612
>I have no counter argument
YOU ARE NOT CHOSEN
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4eb2e2 No.217618
I don't fucking care about your gay fake gods faggot
Hail the Sky Father bro
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7cb76a No.217703
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