/pnd/ - Politics, News, Debate

>>20683

this would work if a non-white was posted in a position of prominence within each chapter house. Many non-whites are pro-white civilization and it wouldn't be hard to find plenty willing to advance western culture. Proud Boys have tons of them, many are not red-pilled on the jew-agenda but know that somehting really fuckey is going on and are easily brought up to speed on (((who))) is behind the disruption.

>>20692

I understand what you mean, but one question. How are places like Elohim City allowed to operate as they do? They've been around for years and don't have any kind of non-whites as far as I know. I'm not saying they should be our model for success, they seem to be kind of a shithole that won't advance our cause. But they are definitely a case worth studying for what we must do

>>20695

>Elohim City

<how is it allowed to exist

The 2nd Amendment is how they're allowed to exist, if they weren't armed, they'd have been removed long ago.

Our cause is not preservation, our cause is domination. Very different. Without an all-out purge of those "less-welcomed" in our society, we will be the ones purged. Even "sane, rational" people are looking toward Balkanization. Elohim residents just balkanized before it was commonly accepted.

>>20680

Good thread, officer.

>>20680

>meet others like us on the local level

wear a Star of David everwhere you go

when met with warm reception, smile and say "my father was a Jew, he just passed." they won't push the issue.

when met with resistance…

Your friend has just found you.

>>20698

you forgot to hit SAGE you turbo-faggot vivisectionist

>>20699

U N I R O N I C A L L Y T H I S

>>20686

Ok

just did it -

http://t465wined7soacsz.onion/flop-human

this is cool

you have to wait a minute or so before you can get the link

your link seems incorrect

could you repost?

>>20708

I had taken the link down but just reposted some goodies for lulz

http://onionshare:dealer-disk@okbnxnwwa4sk6iplgs7fqpngzocgn46k6zkfvpjdmxuylkdvaelik7ad.onion

>>20710

ah, I see someone was able to load the files

I'm waiting for these multiple files to download - they download into a zip file

its downloading at a 232 kb/s rate

I'm thinking - because zeronet IP addresses were comped

that one should always use a vpn while using this

although tor is already enabled

hmmm

see where I'm going with this?

I don't think that IP address leaks are a worry because of TOR

>>20713

just my small collection of necessary SHTF writings. The good stuff requires and air-gap security system.

>>20715

>>20680

This >>20697

Never allow non-whites, and the organization will prosper. If you make exceptions, you are only creating cracks to be exploited to destroy the organization.

>>20714

if you just use TAILS on virutualmachine you won't have to spend the days researching everythng to understand that a VPN compromises TOR as it adds one more link in the chain who can see you are using TOR. They cannot see WHAT you are doing, but they can see that you are on TOR. Does it matter? well, it's just not necessary and it MIGHT matter negatively to you.

find an old android phone, upload a SOCKS proxy to it, find a public Wifi hot spot, drop the phone out of harms way with a power source and you have an anonymous link to the internet

everything else leads back to you in some form, even the phone I just mentioned but at least you can set the server up yourself to not log traffic so when its found, when they turn it off, there will be no trail to follow.

guy talks about whonix

>>20718

I have tails to run off a usb, but I'm downloading the vm image nao

with there were more /tech/ users here

> with

* wish

>>20724

if you don't mind dual-booting to use it, then no need for the virtual download. I just like being able to access it when I find an interesting thing to research and it will run nmap, nikto and various other scanners to take a look at things I otherwise don't want to be linked to.

>>20717

The problem with this strategy is what do you do with mutts? Where do you draw the line? How?

The most devastating force (although ignorant) against "whites" (which is a Jewish term, an Italian and a pole are very different culturally) are white women. Hands down. Yes the star of David subverts quite actively but it is the white woman that creates the impetus for insane change.

Objective morals are key, not blood. A return to true Christianity. Where Jesus says he brings not leave but a sword. Men must lead. Alpha men must be allowed to be alpha.

And how do you expect this to happen? One white person in the group who creates insane lawsuits against the group brings the entire group into a court of public opinion, essentially a kangaroo court. THAT is the problem..

We need to segregate. And that means we need a way to exclude people from the group as well as a way to make sure it's leadership does not become subverted.

And all of that centers back upon objective morals and GOD.

Unless "we" understand what that even means all of this is futile. The greatest enemy to all "white" races and cultures has been white atheists. That is the root.

Address that.

>>20735

Seperating on relgion not blood is what got us into this mess. Relgions change, blood doesn't. Pochahontes isn't White because she converted to Christanity. She's still a tree nigger.

>>20738

If you are going to be a nigger loving faggot go be it somewhere else please. They aren't going to help you take away their gibs and expel them from the land they are occupying.

And if they do they are a race traitor and quick to change sides to what suits their needs.

>>20742

Humanity only has one enemy and it hides in israel. Period!

Everyone that is willing to extinguish that threat is a welcomed friend and deserving of their own civilization separate from mine. I am, by and whole, a National Socialist in every fashion.

who, are, you?

Who are you telling ME that an ally in the fight against the fuckers that have us pinned under their bootheal is not an ally at all?

Who the FUCK ARE YOU to tell me that I must HATE?

HUH?

WHO

ARE

YOU?

Tell the world how your proposal IN ANY FUCKING WAY helps "The white race!" you purport yourself so proudly a member of! Tell us all!

Tell us how "The white race!", who is outnumbered on a global scale near 10:1 by mainly HIGHER IQ ASIANS is going to win that fight!

Tells us all, smart guy! Go on now!

>>20695

>how is it allowed to exist

Because the population is about 100, and it doesn't matter one way or the other what 100 people do in a country of 300 million.

>>20798

is it just me or are these like, super out of order. Gays were being accepted before mass immigration and we still hate pedos while women fucking their dogs has been quote-on-quote normal for a good while

>>20823

What the fuck are you on about?

>>20798

>whitopia must encompass the globe

So you must side with the Zionists, then?

I mean, they're only trying to create a homogeneous planet for themselves and, where you in their shoes, you would obviously do the same, right?

What then, does it mean, to be "white" if not to be morally better than the kike?

this planet has differnt climate zones and thus, has shaped different inhabitants. I FUCKING HATE living near the equator. It's brutal and I would much prefer to take my snow-nigger ass back to the snowy region I was made for. Do you disagree with the tenets of National Socialism? Do you not agree that the terrain will shape the traveler?

I'm curious how you bend the will of God to fit the will of yourself.

>>20844

Lol your logic is flawed. The kikes would enslave every race to serve them. They’re victory is one that will end in self-destruction. This is reinforced by their diseased mindsets towards life and themselves. They do not care about purity, high morals, and the enduring fight to survive as a species. They care about living well even if the world were to burn around them eventually burning their homes. They would kill a fellow jew for no other reason than to gain some more shekels or to feel go about themselves. If every country was controlled by whites, Earth would be a literal paradise. The need for space-travel would only be to ensure our survival in the event of a celestial occurrence that could destroy us (solar flare, asteroid, etc). At least we are honest about our goals. Who has done more for society than whites? We have given them enough, and they have proven time and time again that they will give nothing back. Whitopia around the world is the end goal of every true /pol/ack. To think otherwise is foolish, you clearly don’t believe in our cause.

>>20847

>They would kill a fellow jew

they're not even allowed to sue each other

you don't know a whole lot about them, do you "anon."

btw… they're also compulsive liars.

>>20849

Right because a Jew has never sued a Jew before….. riiiiiiight. Plus what happened with Epstein? That’s jews causing the death of other jews to save their own skin. Even the mafia will take measures to assure their own are taken care of in prison.

>>20858

no, a jew has not sued a jew

berg vs berg

stein vs stein

good luck!

Epstein is not dead. According to their laws, he did nothing wrong and will not be punished for non-crimes.

You really know this little about the enemy or are you playing the part?

>>20860

You must be really dumb to trust anything a kike says https://www.jta.org/quick-reads/man-injured-in-chabad-of-poway-shooting-sues-jewish-center-for-lax-security

In any case, none of this is related to the thread. Spitball ideas on how to meet-up or GTFO

>>20875

<using a jew source to prove anything

>calls me the jew

how is this allowed?

Canadian here. Our "far-right" has always been infested with shills and informants. Id like to meet up with people in real life but 80% chance im walking into an anti-fa or copper set up. So what to do but those interwebz ? as well saying pro-white things here is often labelled "hate speech". Hope its better for you american anons.

>>20884

It is definitely a thin line to walk. The network we hope to form will have to consist of an inner circle and outer circle and then just the new recruits who are unproven. Ranking up will have to require some kind of loyalty test.

>>20884

>80% chance im walking into an anti-fa or copper set up

actually the reality is that it is highly unlikely that anyone, left or right, would be motivated to do anything of the sort without compensation. The reason these fuckwits are out causing violence is because they are getting paid to do so. Take the jewbux out of the picture and the protests will cease immediately. further, the chance that you show up with a gun and kill those would-be attackers is a very real threat to them and they would rather avoid it.

Do not have a logic confuse, brothers.

I aint never seen no elephant fly!

>>20791

Ever heard of Waco?

>>20909

Yes, the time they made an example out of a community much like Elohim. Nothing has changed. Kikes still rule. Whites by and large stilo resoluteoh refuse to see the doom staring them in the face. What point were you trying to make?

>>20748

How does helping third-worlders into our nations help us?

Africans hate the Chinese more than the Jews currently, and the middle easterners are invading our land and not our friend.

If we stopped supporting Isreal and Jewish systems this problem would reverse it's self without the "help" of savages.

>>20680

So I am well anchored in a libtard state. I have some great land a cabin gardens self sufficient for the most part. Got a good woman and even a kid! Working on number 2. Thing is there are no like minded people. There are no allies I can find. I try to feel people out. I invite people I meet to hunt my land or use. My shop to work on a car or just drink beer and shoot the shit. … Crickets. I sometimes get people who want me to do a bit of work for them or fix their broken shit for free since I'm a pretty solid mechanic but that's it. There are tons of white people around. Farmers. Loggers. Rednecks. Gun nuts living in trailers in the woods. None of them will DO anything beyond a cousory curious glance at me, my fam and my place. Hell I have been at this for 5 years… Not one ally.

We need a cover meet up. Like a "reason" to get together. Something like an "outdoors club" or European trades exchange program or something. I know some advanced carpentry, I'm a good mechanic I can make basic timber frame joints. I can small scale farm and raise animals.

How. Do I sell this to Whites so I can get some fucking allies.? How do I find woke anons IRL to join me in my European trades and culture exchange.?

>>20710

>>20715

>>20718

So, I got back home, went to virtual machine, and tried tto get whonix to run

come to find out that I had to go into the bios and enable virtual machine in the bios

I've done virtual machine before though on this computer

maybe because virtual machine wouldn't run 64-bit stuff

okay

got whonix running

it sucks

now I'm on Tails

much better

except I can't save anything

lol

might as well go back to ZeroNet and 08chan on Tor

amirite?

THERE'S NO PERFECT SOLUTION

EXCEPT TO COMPLETELY UNPLUG

>>20972

> TAKE A WALK

>>20976

https://archive.is/CLzkB

>>20972

>5 years

>Not one ally

This is the answer. 'Orthodox (neo-)Nazis' are 'unnatural'. Even if 'naturalness' means complete degeneration/disappearance of (civilized) humans, the fate of all civilizations.

>>20977

original thread was

https://8ch.net/pol/res/12260886.html

but I can't find it in the archives

>>20975

>whonix sucks

Whonix is fine. What's more likely is that you're retarded.

>>20978

Have to agree with the torpedo on that one even if I sound like a blackpillfag.

My extended family on 100+ people, half of them identifying as "conservatives" and othar than me only one voted for Golden Dawn and got immediately ostracized by everyone because he did not have /pol/ to teach him how to hide his powerlevel.

Violently flamboyant tattoo-swinging skinheads certainly do not seem organic.

>>20975

or just make a persistent volume, dumb dumb

Let's all post our name, number, address and ssn so we can meet safely.

>>20735

>The problem with this strategy is what do you do with mutts? Where do you draw the line?

At least 50% white unless they're jews, at a minimum. Fuck off with your pseudo-Christianity.

>>20942

<not my enemy

<don't want to live with them but don't hate them

<we only have one enemy

>helping third-worlders (((you)))

being this fucking retarded

being on a message board and not being able to read

being paid to post here

being a cum-guzzling faggot and not being OP

>>20975

on your host device open a tcp port to a folder labeled virtual-stuff

open your terminal in the /virtual-stuff/ folder and enter this command

python -m simpleHTTPServer 80

now

ipconfig

find the IP address of your host machine (not the vm

should be something like 192.168.0.5

on the virtual machine you can now enter that address into the browser toaccess files

reverse instructions to export files from virtual device

>>21017

>>20735

>>20740

Nuremberg rules. Ideally this would mean >= 75% white, or for the purposes of this experiment, European. The problem with mutts is that unless they pay for those kike'd up dna tests, there's no way to know for sure without an extensive interview, as a red pilled mutt may already know its a bad idea. So, in the interest of attempting a good heuristic for irl meet ups, I propose the following phrenological signs:

-5'10" or taller

>Non-Europeans have either terrible genetics or diets which prevent them from achieving this

-European facial features

>Straight noses

>defined cheek bones

>pronounced forehead indicating developed prefrontal cortex

-Physical fitness

>Their european mixture will allow them to value fitness much more innately

This list is incomplete, so criticism is welcome. I agree that having at least some mestizos or hapas would allow for infiltration of places that a large group of whites would seem suspect. Like those poor guys who were forced to defend their lives while taking chimpout footage. Thoughts?

>>20692

Non white here who supports a supermajority white nation and understands the JQ. Whatever IRL organizing is done, it has to be normie job proof - in other words you have to be able to attract people who are working for normal corporations and who would be willing to associate their real lives with the org. In a word it has to be optical.

>>20735

Unconcerned at this time tbqh. Whites show compassion for other races. I'd feel safe in a supermajority white country.

>>20884

The rule of thumb is that 50% of an organization are Feds or informants. The only way to organize safely is to be completely above board, in a plausibly deniable fashion. This has the bonus of screening out people with nigger tier impulse control.

>>20888

This is what organized crime used to do. Unless your inner circle requires the commission of a crime so heinous that normies will be repulsed and demand action, you will still be vulnerable to people who roll over on you. And if your threshold is proven psychopathy, your quality of membership will be awful. And if you don't care about that, you cant trust one man with the dox on everyone involved.

The bottom line for anything worthwhile is that it has to pass Jew media scrutiny. This means Mom, the flag, and apple pie iconography.

>>21087

The whole point of the organization is that no one person will have the dox on everyone. This implies a particularly large organization, that may seem like a lot of work now, but it is the only way we can get things done.

In any case though, fuck off nigger, non-whites aren't welcome. You'll never be one of us

>>21154

>nothing substantive

>handwavy promises against impossible problems

>future state of "big" organization, no concern for current state

You're a glownigger or an idiot, it's impossible to tell. IRL organization needs to be dox proof, and the simplest way to do that is to be ostensibly above board. You won't attract people with anything to lose unless you can convince them they won't lose it.

>>21160

Any actual white man in this world right now should know one thing: The only thing we have to lose is our race itself. Everything else after that is not important. Unless you have wives and kids, we all should have nothing to lose. They want to kill or enslave every last one of us. How could we convince anyone they have nothing to lose? They have everything to lose starting with life itself. Now is not the time to worry about your personal well-being, it is time to start worrying about the fight to come. Above-board is for pussies.

Just remember nigger, you won't be in our organization. It is not for you

>>21165

>Above-board is for pussies.

At some point a serious organization will appear. You're not it. I don't necessarily need or want to be in it, but you aren't it. You aren't a serious person.

<inb4 tough talk

>>21165

you're the guy that gets the blanket party in jail

I don't know if your over-the-top antics work on simple-minded patsys but no legitimate person buys that you're a real person who has made it outside of his house in the world. I'd be surprised if you could handle a walk through a wal-mart.

>>21160

>>21168

>Implying the revolt will be militia based.

You're not as white as you think, you fucking idiot. The only kind of warfare that works against zog is 4th gen warfare aka insurgency. First targets should be infrastructure, then gatherings of traitors, then their footsoldiers, then the enemy themselves. 4 man cells acting independently, with leaders chosen from within. When a cell grows to >5, then they split into 3 man cells where only leaders communicate for logistical purposes. The larger a cell becomes, the harder it becomes to sniff out glowniggers. Read a book.

>>21384

>You're not as white as you think

I said I wasn't white upthread, goofball.

>muh 4 man insurgency

If you had 4 hard motherfuckers you could make this country shit itself. It's not, so you don't. You don't even have 1. You have a ton of bluster, either because you're stupid or because you glow.

Strange how IRL organization threads always lead to

<hey anon, want to conspire to commit violent felonies with me? I'm a super tough dude

>>21631

Lurk more. There are no more political solutions, we're all standing by until the jews pull the plug on the stock market to kick off the boogaloo. I personally tried starting irl meetups and I only met one guy ever, who immediately became paranoid and ghosted. Most white men won't come around to the truth until they see the chaos for themselves. So focus on people you already know, then start a communication and Intel gathering protocol. Nobody said shit about fedposting, that anon just spoon-fed you and you spit it out like the ungrateful nigger you are. Fuck off.

>>21631

>I said I wasn't white upthread, goofball.

That only makes your groups more susceptible to infiltration. Follow that anon's advice.

Networking among friends and family, and in your community/town/state is one thing - joining or forming a group with a name/symbol/HQ etc. is another. Always be weary of new acquaintances you make who start calling for the latter, especially if they also bring up ideas of doing incriminating things.

>>21678

>paranoid

It's not paranoia when they really are out to get people. Look over this thread, it's glowniggers or critters indistinguishable therefrom. All it takes are a few bad actors to poison the well and make everyone avoid IRL networking with strangers.

>>21750

>>21752

That's why opsec, commsec, training, sop and intel gathering exist to ensure mission accomplishment. If you do something using the aforementioned, you won't need to worry about being caught, you'll have to worry about your egos making you sloppy next time. What "it" is will ultimately be up to the cell(s) in question. Compartmentalized cells make them harder to infiltrate and rat out. Token redpilled mestizos/hapas would be good to throw off the scent of glowniggers.

>>21752

You stupid nigger, kikes will literally just make shit up to slander us regardless of what we do or not do. Did you forget all of last year?

There is absolutely no reason why anyone couldn't put this in a local periodical, craigslist, facebook group, etc.

Group wanted;

I am a man in my late 20's/early 30's and I recently had an epiphany about the world we live in. Nobody makes it on their own! I have family, but my family is not rich, I have friends but they don't have the drive I have and the ones that show the characteristics I'm seeking are already married and having the life drained out of them as I type.

What I seek:

A core group of like-minded individuals to share communal responsibilities, housing, food, transportation, etc, as well as motivation toward a common goal. I am faced with the reality that I do not come from royal stock and if I am going to make it in this world, I need to group up, bite the bullet, forfeit my life so that my children may reap the benefits of my labor. Otherwise, my line ends maybe not at me, but very shortly hereafter.

Interested? Let's talk and see if we can amass a group of not less than 4 persons who can display the attributes necessary to peacefully assemble, as is our right to do, and come together to advance the purpose of our own. If you are interested in becoming more than just yourself, more than you were born into, call me.

000 - as you can see the above doesn't say anything about race, sex, ethnicity or anything else but that's not to say you can't be discerning of the candidates you allow entrance into your private club. Once you find a small group of 4-6 men with various skills and capabilities, you can then move to the next phase in planning a communal-benefit situation where each contributing member reaps long-term benefit in one form or another. Hell, maybe you have 2-4 (inside guys) and have a group of 10 various-breeds contributing to the whole? get creative, it's our strength. Work with your strengths, not your weaknesses.

> so we can carefully plan moves/protests/and other things that further our interests.

> the main concern there is the inevitable possibility of infiltration

To actually do something effective and beyond mere meetup groups you need many people and a large budget to influence things. This will, of course attract attention of the feds.

>The one thing they completely and totally fear is the idea of us coming together IRL to form a clandestine group with the sole goal of furthering white interests and the white race

Nobody is really against this but a big problem is to keep feds and journalists in check. Most orgs do not have the leadership figures to actually lead such movements and to manage people within them. That means having some guidelines, having some expectations, enforcing these so that not all retards can join. If it's just an under the radar organisation you'll invite a bunch of criminal types looking to network for dealing drugs and so on.

> how we can successfully meet others like us on the local level

1 It needs to be small scale: you need to meet up not as a group but as an individual with another individual.

2 Budget and overall network needs to be small to avoid detection or malicious agents. Not really talking about feds here since they don't give a shit generally if you're too small to be under their radar but you can attract some leftie lunatic shithead or something like that.

3 People need to get along with each other. There needs to be a vision overall and goals that need to be accomplished. A manager would need to assign people based on their skills how they would contribute to goals and then evaluate the work of those goals. Just meeting up to be together doesn't really lead to anything but a drinking club. And frankly that wouldn't really be an upgrade to just posting on an imageboard.

> I believe it would have to be through a meet-up at isolated locations with some significance to our ideals

First you can just give a pgp key or talk with each other through some encrypted peer to peer service. For example pidgin with OTR extension facilitates this (just one I know of you have many similar).

> P.S. This thread will be flooded with shills, ignore those who are completely against the idea of forming any kind of network, it's just another step backwards, another blackpill, another missed opportunity.

Organisation of this is really, really hard. Even just getting 10 people together from here to do an online activity is really difficult. Maybe this would be a starting point to have some laid out project with individuals contributing to it. Not sure what kind of project, probably something online related. A big strength though of imageboards is that content (e.g. redpill stuff) is spread by autonomous individual agents and thus almost unstoppable. It's why you see the jew merchant meme everywhere.

>>22122

>Around 6% of whites support the Alt-Right. That's 12 million in the US (other sources claim 2%, that's still 4 million

now that's depressing statistic

Should I drop an email in this thread? Anyone around or willing to visit Kitchener Ontario that would want to meet up?

>>22351

No blackpills here, friend. Just cold hard facts, you aren't as alone as you think.

>>22353

Unless its a burner email, don't. Practice opsec. Just give proposed details (time, place, challenges/responses, radio freqs, etc) for the meetup and gauge interest, Lord knows you leafs will be fighting before the rest of us.

>>20738

It's hard. On the one hand, the basic principles of national socialism are based wholly upon self-determination for all peoples. On the other, they do not live in a vaccuum. *M'bungo burning tires for heat in the Congo directly fucks with OUR environment and OUR atmosphere. We share a planet with savages, and no matter how efficient and clean our civilization, Sandeep, Chang and Kwame have the ability to irreparably trash our planet with no survivors.

Not to mention, energy inefficiency is borderline criminal to our offspring.

>>21862

>muh 4 man cells

>muh opsec

Article: http://archive.md/iA5WT

People organizing for obviously bad shit are either idiots or running Fed honeypots. People hand waving this problem away are either idiots who will be honeypotted or Feds running honeypots.

The Feds have an enormous interest in suppressing dissident politics in the country. Any dissident organization will be infiltrated, most likely from its inception. You can't beat HUMINT because Americans no longer have trusted communities, organizations will necessarily be made up of strangers.

>>20680

You guys need to instantly stop with the same LARPy faggotry I've seen the past months and get down to business.

Stop dreaming of a fucking HQ and muh ambasaddors when that's lightyears away.

You need to fix the literal first tiny hurdle:

>How do you get random online people together in a way that makes them feel they won't be FBId or doxxed

>>22330

>This will, of course attract attention of the feds.

This is an interesting point that is brought up time and again but why is nobody talking about the obvious advantage this could add tot he getting started phase?

Fedniggers have cash to "create" 'evil white supremecists" since they don't actually exist. That money needs to be spent and it is earmarked for organizing an enemy.

Why not just give them what they're looking for?

If they want an enemy, fine. But they don't own the means of mass communication anymore and whomever is the head of the organization can, if things go sideways and feniggers start trying to point the finger at the evil group, broadcast the reality to the world showing the fedniggers were the ones to incite the group to violence. All you have to do is CCTV the actions, words and behaviors of the obvious shill, the one bringing the funding as well as inciting the group toward violence, and be prepared to broadcast that out if they don't leave while they're ahead.

Basically use the fedniggers bilking of the labor of the people (Ie tax money) to start the organization, play the part of radical white extremist right up until it comes time to actually commit felonious acts then turn tide on them and send them on their merry way.

>>22523

Imagine if Germany had won how insignificant an ape-human in africoon would have been?

first we get the ethnostate we desire then we work on cleaning the planet of less desirableness.

As boomers die or retire, this will be THE LARGEST TRANSFER OF WEALTH IN HISTORY. Consequently the financial services industry is severely underemployed. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, it is the best path to develop more credentials and trust than being a military golden boy or publicly elected official or celebrity. Our enemy is in the shadows so we fight in the shade by the numbers! You strike in if you still have decent record, reputation and want to test the mettle of your optics. You will gain wealth and reputation as well as your own network of people who by your leadership have become intimately acquainted with the forces once imperceptible now an unbearably horrifying bane of our existence. You can be a Saint George Bailey to people who actually want a better future and simultaneously you can be a viatical vulture for the hedonists traitors and otherwise condemned.

Starting points: for Noobs

>Go to Church and take Dave Ramsey's Financial Peace class

Otherwise go out there and start planning your contacts list's financial future NOW

https://youtu.be/AXm7E5cwhWY

>>22779

Wear a Murdoch Murdoch shirt in public and have brass balls

>>20686

What do you guys make of Retroshare and Tox as communication methods?

>This thread

Sounds like somebody trying to justify their paycheck.

>>22984

>>23051

Or, create an organization that a 35 year old boomer who works in an office and has a mortgage and a kid, wouldn't be afraid to join.

>>23051

this is the problem

as I see it -

you post one link up here so that folks can chat

then retards join in

and your chat is comped instantly

try to change rooms

but in order to do that you have to float a public link

same morons show up

I was in a discord, for example, that got shoahed 3 or 4 times, but we had an alternate site to go to to get the new link for the new discord.

It was set up alright, but eventually, things just died, it seems

I stopped visiting and that was it.

I still have the link to the link to get the new discord, but I haven't checked on it for a while.

>>23179

>can’t get a honeypot thread on a honeypot

>but can get a honeypot thread on another honeypot

Do they pay you to think you’re fooling people?

>>22122

>the alt right

Congrats on a completely meaningless statement. We don’t care about jewish puppets. If there are between 4 and 12 million alt-right supporters, that means there are fewer than 500,000 actual white nationalists.

Would be nice, but creating and hiding such a thing is such a logistical clusterfuck.

>>22780

> broadcast the reality to the world showing the fedniggers were the ones to incite the group to violence

The feds then look like utter fools and will attempt to shut down the group through other means. You can take an example from 8chan where the feds were caught posting about 'muh Russia' and trying to incite violent action + anti Russian sentiment. It got shutdown regardless since feds were exposed and lost control. Even if you catch them fucking with your group they're almost impossible to prosecute legally.

>>23099

You can't really make an organisation accessible to a 35 year old who works in an office and has a mortgage and kid. Because that person is probably very normal and holds onto mainstream media news opinions. There is no reason for that person to lose faith in the system or embrace an alternative.

>>23158

Discord just shoas everything and yes you will attract retards, and yes a leader needs to filter retards while also getting a decent size pool of non retards. Which is a very big challenge.

>>23281

>There is no reason for that person to lose faith in the system or embrace an alternative.

That person is who elected Trump. 2016 campaign Trump was for people who had lost faith in the system and were looking for alternatives. That person watches Tucker Carlson. There are tens of millions of disaffected Americans.

>>23051

Stupid and Internet based. A cheap Baofeng can give you a range in miles, won't have the power to be picked up by listening stations, and leaves no trace. Even a low power cb radio can give you a range of ~100 miles during day time. Not as "secure" but enough to pass intel to other cells with a one time pad if it's truly important. Both are capable of use during blackouts with batteries or even mounted on vehicles.

>>23299

>voted for a jewish puppet

>watches a jewish puppet

>disaffected

Doesn’t even know what the problems with the world are. Not disaffected, dipshit.

>>23158

richochet:dc4iiyywp5siimgr

Just for you I'll leave the messenger open all day. Hell, I'll leave it open til midnight tonight!

Won't be comped. We can add in as many users to the group as we like. remove at will, too.

Why are you so afraid of us talking to each other, anon?

If anyone wants to meet up with me in Kitchener, Ontario just email me at DealWithItAnon@protonmail.com

>>23365

proton mail is israeli trash

download ricochet - https://ricochet.im/

TOR is for white men and the highest-level of spook. If it's good enough for the NSA, it's good enough for me!

Is >>>/meadhall/ still around? Anyway, down to drive to get a bite or drink with anyone in the Wyoming/Colorado/Idaho region.

>>23456

>you’re insane if you publicly state truth

>therefore go support people who openly work against whites and who have no idea what truth is because they’re too busy sucking jew cock

You don’t have an argument.

>you’re insane if you publicly state truth

>I said it again; that makes it true

>there is absolutely no way of stating truth except the way i say so

Just die. You’re not human. You don’t have an argument. You’re literally calling on whites to do absolutely nothing, never fight back, never even tell the truth to anyone else, and just give up. Commit. Suicide. Now.

>>23498

>muh optics

>muh emotions

>logic IS emotion, goyim

Just. Fucking. Stop. I don’t give a fuck if you can’t divorce your emotions from facts. That’s you. Other individuals are not you. They have wholly disparate sets of experiences. You need to comprehend that there are other states of existence than your own. Fucking solipsism, man.

>you are upset, not me

And stop fucking projecting your emotions onto others.

>the truth alone is not sufficient

And yet you’re claiming that emotion+truth=wrong (because there’s only ONE way to emotionally express something and if you say otherwise you’re lying), therefore do nothing ever, goyim. We don’t have to put up with your shit. Drop the preconceptions next time or just fuck off entirely. Let’s return now to the initial point:

YOU ARE SHILLING FOR THE CONTINUATION OF THE ZOG, AND YOU ARE TELLING WHITES TO SUPPORT THEIR OWN GENOCIDE BY ZOG PROXY. Go to hell.

>>23530

Of course he’s correct in stating that the manner in which information is presented is important. He’s simply claiming that there are no other ways to present it than the dichotomy he falsely erected.

>>23498

>You can't seriously state emotionally charged truths and remain socially respectable.

Technically not true facts anon.

>>23553

Just fucking make your argument like this instead of all the canon fire.

>>23517

>gets told facts

>calls it emotion

>literally can't understand these are facts about other people's emotions

>ALLCAPS I AM NOT UPSET U ARE

Pathetic.

>>23553

Not what I said. You're not thinking straight.

>>23623

Maybe I'm missing the point you're making. I'm talking about facts as the dissident right would present, like the JQ. You can't talk about this in straight truth terms because most people will emotionally reject it. Same with bringing women back under control. Arguments that work fine here, because there are no social consequences, don't work IRL, because there are social consequences.

A successful meatspace program has to account for the fact that the overwhelming majority of the people in meatspace would not be swayed by what sways anons. Any program that limits itself to arguments that sway anons will only attract the kinds of people who'd wear a /pnd/ banner graphic tshirt.

>>23628

I was using the normie "true facts", the pop culture meme.

I think a particularly charismatic person can reach more people despite being a bit "edgy". If it's about not being shut down I can agree, but you can toe the line and push the envelope and use a self-referential 'dialectic' that keeps shit from blowing up. I was disagreeing with the statement "can't state emotionally charged truths" specifically.

Honest skepticism, I do not see the benefit. How does it help the cause of white survival for me to find like minded friends in my area?

I am open to being persuaded, but I do not like the risk of opening myself and family to political persecution.

Suppose I find a couple of people who see things the way I do. That would be nice but how does it change the political situation?

Suppose I end up in a larger group. What if it turns a bad direction under shizo or planted leadership?

Best case it seems to me is I find a trouble trio, and we just bide our time for if/when the situation changes so we can resist globohomo with reasonable hope of success to justify the risk.

>>23849

>What is the benefit?

>You're a pussy for asking

Ok then

>>23858

>ok then

Spoken like a true pussy. You can’t even defend yourself. Plus everything you said earlier was some cowardly bullshit. It’s action time, you either care or don’t. If you don’t then fuck off.

>>23641

This is true, 2016 campaign Trump is a good example. But nobody ITT is that charismatic. For any anons organizing they should stick to established dog whistles like "heritage America" or "globalists". The Overton window can be pushed but gently, gently. This is not the time to debate expulsion or extermination, that comes later.

>>23839

It's a reasonable question. I personally want to see lasting political change to restore sane and civilized society which means basically national socialism. Call me a dreamer. That organization - institutional change driven by the dissident right - doesn't exist yet.

>>23965

>Gently coo the overtime window

That is defense and a last resort. Cooing works if you can inform while smashing past objections. Pique any curiousity without resolving it soon and you will have a frustrated dolt or an irreversible hostile if the subject fails to inform himself (odds say he will). The only way to map out objections is through trial and error with throw away interactions, people youre likely to never see again or be recognized by or if so they're powerless and irrelevant. To be on our mission you must accept it like your race is your company you rep like a pick up artist lusts for sex you must lust for contagious hope. You'll never be good at redpilling people if you don't risk redpilling idiots and learn and practice it as an art on the daily. Once you feel comfortable "dodging lasers" as Seinfeld says, you can be attractive and magnetic without fear of attracting negative people because youve mastered navigating their hierarchy to a sufficient degree of competent battle.

>>23965

What good in particular for your conception of how things ought to be does it do for you to network IRL

You need to learn how to sniff out (((them))) first

>>20680

retarded idea

>>25937

White women are the most race-loyal in dating, white women are the most likely to vote right wing of all the female demographic and white women are least likely to use abortion.

White women are treasures. They might be inclined towards the emotional responses and shallow political discourses but all in all they are doing just as women do by nature.

The problem is white men. It is us.

Bumping the most important thread on /pnd/

>>26095

No, the problem is jews. Kill yourself.

Meet ups, to discuss what? To do what? Dumb idea. You already know what you need to do - find a woman, have a family, build wealth, get crypto, stock up, get self-reliant.

>>20680

Here's a few vague ideas for your consideration. Non-white lurker here so please excuse my engrish.

How about helping other non-white anons buy/rent apartments/houses in the same neighborhood or town? That way nobody will suspect you of being a member of an organisation.

Help others(unemployed) get jobs at the same place or even start a company of some sort.

Each anon must be monitored by another anon so that they have to answer to someone for their actions and also eliminate the chances of infiltration.

In my opinion, buying a ranch or just gathering in one place a few times a month is prone to infiltration and will seem like a cult.

I hope a proper white anon would be able to expand on this more clearly.

Alright here comes my smoothbrained take.

You want to be a community leader? You see those /SIG/ threads? Promote that shit IRL. You can advertise on kikebook or other normie friendly social media you're going to a nearby park/gym or some shit on the weekends and offer free coaching on physical fitness or whatever. Worst case scenario no one shows up for a long time, but now you have a whole timeslot dedicated to further personal improvement. People start showing up regularly? That's your outer circle. Regulars you can joke and shoot the shit with maybe you start discussing other avenues of self-improvement and -if you trust this dude- you have a potential candidate for your inner circle. But you need to put yourself out there and be at least tolerated by the community.

Been spending generous amounts of my commute time going through kikebook and there's a large /pol/ friendly audience interested in self improvement. They communicate almost exclusively through racist memes and ironical threats of physical violence on the lactose intolerant. With that in mind, maybe you get lucky or are Australian and have a bunch of these shitposters in your area.

Also you can just straight up copy whatever the proud boys are doing, and create a spin-off more in line with /pol/ values. I'm sure at least a few of them have noticed that no matter how much they cuck themselves and their leadership the media will still paint them as neo-nazis.

we cannot stay online forever

Recently moved to another state and god is it hard to find a new group of friends who aren't afraid to call a man a man. lolberts are the best I can find but even they are permissive of retard-logic and trannies just as long as "don tred on meeee!". Previously I had good luck with aiming to find channers then finding the ones who will admit to browsing /pol/.

>>109092

On the topic of printing, I think this is important. Printed books can be left in libraries, in dentists office. They can be peddled to boomers who can't into internet and simply aren't within the network of people who can discover the rabbithole. Furthermore, 8kun can be taken down. 4chan can be taken down. Mega.nz could be taken down. Youtube will continue purging redpilled material. i.e. We really have no idea if ANY of this knowledge we've amassed will still be around in 100 years.

Printing, on the other hand, is a different ballgame. In a world of digital information, printed material becomes that much more intriqueing, exotic, and even sacred. One day it will be illegal to share the information that we have collected. Putting it in print makes it that much harder to destroy. It can no longer be destroyed by pulling a plug or hacking a server. The redpills in our world now, on somebody's nightstand.

I looked into how much it would cost to print the 380pg Red Pill 3rd Edition book linked to previously. It is clearly some anons master-work, but it is also clearly made to be read digitally, and would need serious updates to links, sources, and formatting before printing would be a truly great idea. That being said, it's hard to say how many bluepilled boomers there are who have never had access to such information and would buy a copy. Would they pay $10 for it? It would cost $5/book to print, if you order 1000 from a Chinese company like Qin Printing (assuming it would too risky to order from a domestic company). That's $5000 up front for you, but some market research might convince you that you could sell at least half of them eventually (thereby breaking even). It's $25/book to buy 100 of them. Less money upfront but less likely to sell them at the price needed to break even.

Of course it would be easier to offload this product if you could split the initial investment N ways with a group of people in different parts of the country, but most of us don't have the luxury of irl friends. On the other hand, you are likely to make those if you sell this door to door. Online sales are another option, but again Red Pill 3rd Edition isn't well-formatted for print anyway. It would be better on a flashdrive. It can be compressed down to 60MB using some free online PDF compression tool. You can probably buy flashdrives with adequate capacity for a fraction of a dollar in bulk.