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>>134537

Imagine thinking that you can actually secede from ((liberals)) who can only survive through parasitism

>>134539

cali has been trying to secede since forever. you seem to think they dont actually believe communism has never been tried, and that they will set up marxist wakanda.

it doesn't particularly matter if the people at the top want it, so long as you can convince dumb protesters.

It would be funny watching them try.

Feel free to secede California. Nobody wants your bullshit anymore anyway. Come collect your street gangs too.

>>134547

Technically those are the CIA's street gangs as all crime in the USA is run and operated by the (((CIA and their affiliates))). Anyone you see 'captured' or drug bust happening is someone who is NOT AFFILIATED or run by the CIA. This way they can continue to turn a huge profit off of dead and injured Americans while making a public show of catching the bad guys. Nothing changes, everything stays the same and the horrific parasitism and disgusting jewing just keep going.

>>134537

States cannot secede. If you want your white utopia, you're going to have to buy a private island or something.

I feel like you all are missing my point.

Secession is potentially something that both sides want, nevermind that the coasts would go to shit. Their side doesnt know that, and openly telling them so doesn't even matter. Their entire premise is that they could finally implement wakanda. They would think they were pulling one over on us even if they understood our intentions.

Offering the coasts wouldn't be a hard sell. These people resent the flyover states. They actively hate America, and dont give a fuck about the rule of law. Our side seceding is outside the overton window, yes, but their side seceding isn't. If they were to bring it up first, it could gain traction. The question is if this would be a good thing.

>>134625

> Our side seceding is outside the overton window, yes, but their side seceding isn't.

Really. I'm a eurofag so I'm wouldn't know. But you really think the lefties have more appetite for secession than the flyovers?

>>134628

100% absolutely for Cali Oregon and Washington. They have been talking about it for years. I dont see any reason why something like CHAZ couldn't evolve into calls for secession.

>>134648

I am taking it as a given that if that happened the coasts would collapse. But that isn't what we should concern ourselves with. Would the flyover states survive without port access, and would we be able to solve the border problem quickly enough to mitigate immigration from californiastan?

You won't be able to convince them to move to a reservation. I am talking about using their energy against them. In their mind they might perceive secession as a victory. Even if you explained our motivations to them, there are people on their side who would take that deal.

>>134656

>Would the flyover states survive without port access, and would we be able to solve the border problem quickly enough to mitigate immigration from californiastan?

There are many landlocked countries anon.

And the browns would stay where the gimmiedats are.

>>134648

They are going to raise bugs to eat and will make tofu out of chink tears.

>>134545

Would have replied to this one earlier but had to think about it.

I think that maybe 100 years ago you would be correct about defacto secession. We should have been an antifederalist nation from the get go. If it started early, we would have had smaller and easier to manage units competing with each other in some governing analog of free market competition. Smaller geographic regions are also more likely to be ethnically homogeneous, so it dovetails well with ethnic nationalism.

The issue now is that, ideologically, the coasts are so fucked that the moment they are free they will collapse. If it isn't dejure they will want gibs (again, look at chaz). Could a scenario be arranged where once they seceded they weren't able to ask for support? More importantly, could we stop them from fleeing whatever dumpster fire they light, like the libs from california are already doing to texas? How likely is that scenario given that they do in fact secede?

>>134673

>If it isn't dejure they will want gibs

If the federal government is weak enough then it won't matter. All it has to do is be as weak as the EU. Poland is already telling them where to stick it. If they don't back off Poland and or Hungary will exit and maybe Italy soon after. They are a paper tiger, the US federal government would be too if enough states stood up to them.

>>134673

> More importantly, could we stop them from fleeing whatever dumpster fire they light,

I wonder if they would? Take Poland again - Poland, and east of Poland is soooo much better for Whites than the UK. I live in the region myself and since moving here I have literally NEVER met an out homosexual. Think about that for a moment. But no matter how shat up the UK gets, you don't get a serious displacement of people moving east. A few here and there, mostly religious people moving to be able to, idk not have anal sex taught to their kids for example. But most bongs just sit there like frogs boiling.

Any foogies you got from Cali you should be able to redpill much more easily. You just say how you don't do things here like in california, and go back to where you came from if you don't like it.

>>134679

Yeah, I've lived on both the west cost and in the balkans. I am aware of how good they have it over there. What makes me think that it is different is that whereas the UK has this reputation of past glory eastern europe does not. Moreover, you have to pass several borders to get there.

As is, there are many, many libs fleeing the west coast for the midwest. The extremists stay and want their marxist regime. Those slightly left of them flee to e.g. texas and start campaigning for the same bullshit.

What is the factor that differentiates the two cases? Idk, I'm open to ideas. But that factor should probably be worked out before our side encourages them to form their own nation (defacto or otherwise). It seems very obvious that they could move in that direction.

>>134546

If protesters want it then that means they'll make signs about it. You know that stuff is smoke and mirrors, it's not real. If the people at the top want it, it'll happen, but since we don't see a real push for secession, then it's not a real thing. Remember they NEED your money, effort, time, etc. Never forget that a jew is a bottomless hole of desire. They have no real ambition or dreams.

>>134546

California isn't actually trying to secede. That's red meat they throw out to their population. California would have real problems without open access to the 49 other state markets. They are also very dependent on out of state sources of water.

>>134545

The real parasites are in the nigger infested South. Cali alone accounts for 1/5 the US GDP.

x In the post-Fed nuclear war, It will be a simple matter to start on the northern and Eastern borders of California and forcibly deport every last non-white person that is not a citizen of the United States. March South and West, using all available technology, communications blackouts, and hundreds of thousands of warriors. It could be done in weeks.

That will eliminate about 20 million Democrat votes, AKA 10 million illegal alien enemy invading rapists and murderers.

Then, do the same in all the Southern border states, completely uprooting and ejecting invaders, but not just right across the border, but to the furthest Southern tip of South America, no matter where they're from. 500 of them per C5A Galaxy would require 20,000 flights, so container ships would be the best way. If they were worried about safety and security in their shipping container neighborhood where they would be fed and watered on the way, we can assure them that since they will not be surrounded by any Raycss White Folks that their little girls and boys will be magnificently safe.

They can start a new life anywhere but here.

Then, the constitution will be taught and published, nationwide, with people's rights being reinforced first and foremost.

Pedos in prison just shot

Rapists in prisons just shot

Drug traffickers shot

Human traffickers shot

Pornographers shot

Pimps shot

Propaganda leaders shot on camera

Abortion doctors all hunted down, to a man, and shot

Full audits of all politicians books from the day they started in politics to the minute. If any foreign (((influence))) is found, then they are shot

It's not hard to fix a nation. You have to start with excising the cancer.

Of course, all contact with China eliminated. Anyone from China deported unless they have already attained full citizenship and have NO criminal record.

Higher education imbalance of any ethnic group above the national racial or gender demographic redressed. Imbalance of teachers who are of (((one particularly cancerous group))) redressed.

This stuff is not rocket science. The people just have to be un-hypnotized by whether a celebrity's anus-lightening cream works for them for five minutes.

There may be more graceful solutions, but if there are, feel free to propose them.

Free white men, not (((white))) men of good character welcome, especially from Germany.

Priority, no CELEBRITY status given to families with at least three virgin white girls in the family, to reverse the tide of nigger dick being thrown at us for decades.