db82d9 No.122992[Last 50 Posts]
I guess this will divide the "White Nationalists" and the "Ethnonationalists", sorry /pol/ it's not intentional.
As an Ethnonationalist myself, I believe it was a disaster and tragedy that we Europeans destroyed the indigenous cultures and languages that existed before colonization. It was their land. We stole their land and broke their cultures and turned them into the pile of human refuse most of them are today.
I do not say that their cultures were equal to European culture, but I say that they had the right to preserve their own culture on their ancestral lands, whether they were civilized or not, just as I demand the right for my (Eastern European) people to persist on our land and speak our own language.
When the day of the rope comes, I will undoubtedly be on the streets goodifying invaders. Browns can all fuck off. They don't belong here. But nor do I belong on their side of the wall.
So /pol/ tell me why is it that I seem to care about the damage done to America's indigenous cultures more than any liberal I have ever met. They literally never talk about Indians, it's all nigs nigs nigs 24/7 (when it's not gays gays gays). They even go so far as to try and pretend that Atlantic slavery was the "original sin" of the US.
I would be very interested if any burgers could enlighten me on why liberals don't talk about Indians.
(For bonus points also tell me if there are any functional Indian nationalist groups - I bet not they are probably just a bunch of drug fucked mongrels by now)
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ee99e5 No.122996
>stole
1. They didn’t believe in land ownership.
2. We physically defeated them in combat, thus we were rewarded.
3. Go cuck yourself somewhere else.
>indigenous cultures
What culture, subhuman? They beat sticks together. They had no wheel, no iron, no bronze, no metalworking at all. They had no writing. They had and were nothing. Piss off with your jewish bullshit.
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0846dc No.123003
>>122996
1. Who is "they"? There were 10,000+ tribes and not all of them held the same beliefs.
2. Who is "We"? Are you a Spaniard? If you mean "the US", there was only one war officially declared between the US and a handful of tribes and the "spoils of war" doctrine was already illegal at that point.
3. I guess when you can't argue, this is all you can resort to.
>I take credit for things I didn't invent
You have your own personal foundry, process your own metals, and fabricate your own tools and such?
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db82d9 No.123005
>>122996
If the most technologically superior person has divine right, then your fucked mate, because Bezos has more technology than you and he wants you to suck nigger cocks
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ee99e5 No.123006
>>123003
>who is they
Kill yourself, retard. You don’t know the context of your own discussion?
>who is we
Yet another jew claiming whites aren’t white; how droll.
>lol u no argue i say so ha ha whites give up everything that is yours because i say so now lol u no argue
Yep, kill you’re self.
>strawman, bullshit, literally defending subhuman apes who barely mastered fire
Sage.
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db82d9 No.123008
>>123006
>Sage
Nah, stay. Convince me that the most powerful race should conquer the whole world and subjugate all it's people. This place has been fucking boring recently at least I can enjoy being called a shill for a bit.
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0846dc No.123011
>>123006
So, your entire argument boils down to "WE WUZ!!" Typical nigger.
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ee99e5 No.123013
>>123008
>strawman
Nah, sage.
>>123011
>continues to invent bullshit
Sage.
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0846dc No.123014
>>123013
>a white man did something, that means all white men can claim it
That is literally "WE WUZ". You haven't done shit, nigger. You have nothing and are nothing.
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e26eec No.123029
>>122992
I think you are making a mistake by applying modern values to the past. Rome didn't feel they "stole" as they were expanding. Colonization didn't intend to steal it intended to discover.
Now after discovery you are sitting with the problem of encountering people not as advanced as you, your own self interest and just being so technologically advanced it's like using HAX. Europeans didn't intend to, it was a consequence of colonization. That's the biggest thing. Now the clearly superior culture is conquering a less superior one. What were their options try to integrate or genocide. In most colonies people did in fact try to integrate, assimilate and educate instead of being genocidal manics.
So basically what I'm getting at is what is the alternative? Leave huge masses of land i.e the entire North America, Asia untouched because we don't want to displace? Keep Europe isolationist? How do we keep natives from trying to strive for a clearly superior culture? (Abos started worshiping planes because they thought it was gods or some shit, point being just being around them is going to make them change their behavior and culture.)
People have a right to exist but the question is how? The Sentinelese are basically the only modern example of how to handle interaction between a advanced and non-advanced culture, leaving them on their island.
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ee99e5 No.123030
>>123014
>strawman again
>more anti-white spam
Sage.
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ae3394 No.123032
>>122992
>why liberals don't talk about Indians
Because as you say, the Indians are living examples of what immigration does. We were the immigrants, and now look at the Indians. It's a rhetorically weak position for leftists to be in, so they just don't talk about it. The left's goal is to render people like you and me either dead or like modern Indians - burnouts living on reservations getting high and offing ourselves when we run out of drugs.
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db82d9 No.123033
>>123029
Yeah I guess I know it was unavoidable. Especially if you are English and there is a fucking Frenchman planning to take the same bit of land so you had better take it first. I certainly don't think that they conceived of it as "stealing" at the time. But I do think it's a shame. It's regrettable. (As was importing a ton of Africans - I mean shit in retrospect - Whoops).
Still though I am curious as to why in the US liberals never ever talk about this "regrettable incident", when they bang on and on about niggers. Canadian and Australian liberals bring up colonialism, but in the USA it's like the nation was born when the first slave arrived.
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25f709 No.123037
>>123033
I think comparing a Frenchmen to Englishmen in this context is a bit disingenuous but I agree that it is very regrettable. Hindsight is 20/20 though.
It's and interesting point you have on why they don't bring it up. I don't know enough Americans.
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db82d9 No.123039
>>123032
>burnouts living on reservations getting high and offing ourselves when we run out of drugs.
Well from what I hear this has already happened, no? Opioids and suicide and all.
>We were the immigrants, and now look at the Indians. It's a rhetorically weak position for leftists to be in, so they just don't talk about it.
Yeah. I wonder if it can be used to counter them in some small way.
>We're a nation of immigrants
<And how did that work out for the (insert name of your local tribe)?
>I think comparing a Frenchmen to Englishmen in this context is a bit disingenuous
Ahh I just mean that they were geopolitical rivals and probably wouldn't want to let the other get an advantage by leaving the land to the natives (i.e. letting their enemy take it unopposed)
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25f709 No.123041
>>123039
>Ahh I just mean that they were geopolitical rivals and probably wouldn't want to let the other get an advantage by leaving the land to the natives
Sorry I misunderstood you I thought you meant historically, like comparing English and French fighting against the colonization of Europeans against the natives interaction.
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e16dec No.123049
nobody talks about the race of north american giants that the indians genocided. but the smallpox blanket myth is overplayed to hell and back
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27c4d7 No.123125
>>122992
They have plenty of land and casinos just for them, they're fairly well treated and have more benefits than any other minority.
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93ed7d No.123153
>>122992
>I believe it was a disaster and tragedy that we Europeans destroyed the indigenous cultures and languages that existed before colonization
So, of course you do not support what is being done by Israel in Palestine.
Oy vey!
Why do you seem to care so much for a centuries-old conquest, when you can go throw your body between Israeli guns and innocent little Palestinian babies TODAY!
Stream it live. Be a hero, don't just talk about injustices, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
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e818a4 No.123391
>>123153
>So, of course you do not support what is being done by Israel in Palestine.
That's right Palestinians also have a right to their homeland.
Kurds too while we are talking about the asshole of the earth.
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47170d No.123412
>>122992
>So /pol/ tell me why is it that I seem to care about the damage done to America's indigenous cultures more than any liberal I have ever met. They literally never talk about Indians, it's all nigs nigs nigs 24/7 (when it's not gays gays gays). They even go so far as to try and pretend that Atlantic slavery was the "original sin" of the US.
It's harder to get featherniggers to burn down cities. Also, they had that whole "one with the forest, eat what you kill" vibe which clashes with leftist's need to build bigger cities with government dependent populations.
>>122996
>They didn’t believe in land ownership.
This is a myth. They absolutely defended their territory and warred with other tribes/settlers. They understood the value of hunting grounds and rivers and traded those things for rifles, steel tools, and rum. Pretending they didn't understand is noble savage bullshit that libs push to make the settlers seem like horrible people.
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c7b99c No.123421
In the late 1960s to early 1980s there was a lot of Indian stuff with the Left. Cher did this I'm a Indian thing. There was an angry Kung Fu hippie Indian movie called Billy Jack and various other Lefty propaganda efforts as it concerned the Indians.
In the late 1970s early 1980s there was a mountain man/Indian/black powder movement with various big campouts. Also there were a number of Indian movies with some being quite good. However these movies and the mountain man stuff were not left-wing.
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c7b99c No.123428
There was a major propaganda effort put out by a leftist ethnic studies professor by the name of Ward Churchill. He made the claim that blankets were deliberately contaminated with smallpox in order to kill off the and Indians. To their credit a group of history professors countered Ward Churchill's papers and Ward Churchill was deemed to have committed academic fraud.
https://quod.lib.umich.edu/p/plag/5240451.0001.009/--did-the-us-army-distribute-smallpox-blankets-to-indians?rgn=main;view=fulltext
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e818a4 No.123433
>>123421
>In the late 1960s to early 1980s there was a lot of Indian stuff with the Left.
So how come they stopped and pivoted to only caring about imported browns?
>It's harder to get featherniggers to burn down cities.
Maybe this. Maybe Indians are just not angry enough and leftism is all about being butthurt angry children (just like niggerism)
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08a0aa No.123451
I didn't read anything in shit thread, but
> Why don't US liberals ever talk about indians
Because there aren't enough of them to do anything useful with them. You can't mobilize them against whites in any meaningful capacity, you can't use them to outnumber whites, you can't import infinite millions more of them, you can't use them to beg for money because they aren't completely retarded.
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3d21bb No.123523
>>123014
>Implying being proud of what your ancestors did is the same as claiming your a decedent of an alian species that rode on flying pryramids.
Ok buddy
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4f8f15 No.123527
>>123523
We stopped paying attention to your dumb "we wuz" bullshit when you started claiming Jesus was white.
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e818a4 No.123535
>>123523
I think it's more like don't base your current claim for sovereignty on past glories.
Blood is a better claim on land than "i haz the best shiny stuff".
When chinks have all the best shiny stuff will you hand them your land?
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ce8979 No.123611
I dont have the sites bookmarked.
But iirc the oldest bones found in America were actually of a white person, not american indians.
Also someone on here once talked about and linked to a site of 2 books written by 2 different american-indian female writers from the late 19th century.
In both books it is described that there used to be white and brown american-indians. The white ones taught the brown ones how to catch fish, animals and do other useful things, however for some reason the white ones were hunted down and genocided by the brown ones.
I read about the bone findings after I read about this, you can imagine my reaction.
Also im european so i dont know whats going on with US History, but wasnt it american-indians that attacked white settlers first?
I dont know about the truth of this and I dont have the links to the books however given the history of american-indians I dont doubt it.
So no, Europeans didnt destroy anything, Europeans simply took back what was rightfully theirs.
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c7b99c No.123666
I know there has been a lot of conflicts between the Indians and the blacks. Some Indian tribes owned large numbers of slaves. Blacks try to claim they are therefore Indian due to maybe an ancestor being a slave of an Indian tribe. The blacks of course are after the Indian give me dats and the Casino money. There are even made up complete bullshit all black Indian tribes for the purpose of casinos and gov hand outs. This pisses the Indians off.
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4f8f15 No.123676
>>123611
>the oldest bones found in America were actually of a white person
WE WUZ
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e818a4 No.123677
>>123666
Nice digits
>Some Indian tribes owned large numbers of slaves
I like this fact. I will try and find a reference.
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e16dec No.123683
>>123676
yes jamal, white people literally we kings
>>123611
don't forget the giant bones found in north america that the Smithsonian destroyed
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e16dec No.123684
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e818a4 No.123688
>>123683
>yes jamal, white people literally were kings
Well, the kings were kings. The peasants weren't kings.
>don't forget the giant bones found in north america that the Smithsonian destroyed
Please some sort of reference, you have my interest
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4f8f15 No.123690
>>123683
Not every king who ever lived was white, you idiot.
>ancient aliens meme conspiracy theory about giant bones
Yep … full on window-licking retard.
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54e39c No.123696
>>122992
>As an Ethnonationalist myself, I believe it was a disaster and tragedy that we Europeans destroyed the indigenous cultures and languages that existed before colonization. It was their land.
Die faggot.
They colonized that land too. Whites were there before, a long time ago. These reds managed to survive when the older Whites were removed for some reason or another.
They're of the same race that invaded Europe (mongols, around the 13th century).
They have tales of how they exterminated a tribe of Whites that lived there too. It's an old tale that almost became a legend.
They have the right to keep the lands they can defend. Too bad they lost.
If you want to fuck Pocahontas say it now moron.
>>123011
Always looking behind. Tss tss.
Let's change that to "WEEWEEL!!"
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e16dec No.123698
>>123688
they're called the mound builders. they aren't talked about too much, even less so that they were giants. all the fake giant bone scam stories were to cover up actual giant bones because it went against the scientific dogma that giants could have existed.
there are indian stories that have been passed down centuries about these giants. they were even described by the indians as white.
presumably these giants lived in the north america and the red indian race came from south america and genocided them. the giants probably bred less and were overrun despite being stronger
look into mound builders and indian myths and legends if you're interested
>>123690
>newfag who wasn't around when /pol/x/ threads were big
weird how egyptians pharaohs had red hair and white dna
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e818a4 No.123704
>>123696
> Whites were there before, a long time ago.
Wow. It's facinating to see people believing that America was "originally" a "white" country. Never seen someone bending over backwards so far to justify living in a colony.
Ancient legends are your land right? Sounds like (((someone else))).
"White" is not an ethnicity. A Norwegian doesn't get to claim Hungary because he's white. Norway is for the Norwegians and Hungary is for Hungarians. Americans just can't feel in the same way that "America is for the whites".
I mean immediately you start bickering over who is white anyway (are slavs in or out?)
It's interesting that because many Europeans live on their ancestral lands, burgers start looking for an origin story that makes America their own ancestral land.
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ebdf41 No.124023
>>122992
You're too hung up on "right vs. wrong" when you should be looking at "us vs. them." Yeah, we took their land and destroyed their cultures because we had the numbers and the technology to do it. A lot of culture, tradition, art, and mythology were lost, and that is a tragedy. Welcome to human history. All human groups have been doing this to each other whenever they could since before we were chimps, most certainly including the various native American groups. This was not some unique evil we did; it was business as usual for everybody. Even you ancient nations of Europe did not spring from the soil. Go back far enough and your ancestors swept in on chariots, slaughtering and enslaving those who lived on what are now "your" lands, raping their women and seizing their possessions for your own.
>But anon, by the same token you have no right to complain that the Jews conquer you and bring in assorted mudpeople to replace you.
Complain to whom? There's no higher authority, no referee, and no audience in the struggle to survive. If they manage to wipe us out, then we're gone. Our conquerors will enjoy the lands and resources they took from us, and nobody else will give a damn, and that will be that. What we took or didn't take from the natives has no bearing on it whatsoever.
I'm not inconsistent and I'm not a hypocrite. There's a simple standard: when my people wrest land and resources from an outgroup, that is good. When an outgroup wrests them from us, that is bad. This is how everyone else, including the Jews and all the various flavors of mud see things, and it's well past time we saw things that way too. They will whine, and shame, and try to hold us to a standard that they have never followed and have no interest in following. This is merely a stratagem in life's great war; it has worked on us far better than it should have, but they've overused it and it's starting to lose its power.
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d453b3 No.124028
>>123704
>> Whites were there before, a long time ago.
>Wow. It's facinating to see people believing that America was "originally" a "white" country. Never seen someone bending over backwards so far to justify living in a colony.
>Ancient legends are your land right? Sounds like (((someone else))).
Obviously since you're a complete retard you cannot read the entirety of a post.
OP was defending the right of Asians to possess the land because they were there before Whites. I simply corrected that statement and also pointed out that you only possess what you can defend. If you're weak, tough luck and bye bye.
As for Jews, it is them who copy us.
The reminder of Whites being on a land for quite some time must always come with the fact that Whites FOUGHT to maintain control over these lands. Europe is the best example of it, where our ancestors literally applied a territorial and racial segregation by way of the sword.
>"White" is not an ethnicity.
I never said so, learn to read or continue to argue with yourself and your made up points.
>It's interesting that because many Europeans live on their ancestral lands, burgers start looking for an origin story that makes America their own ancestral land.
They don't need an "origins" tale, they just need to man up and understand that Might is Right. That's it.
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d453b3 No.124030
Often enough, what is good for you is bad for others. This rule is mitigated when there are enough resources for everybody but this should not excuse White people bringing in migrants only because we are rich and have plenty of resources (that are melting like a snowball in hell).
Contrary to what Communism would teach, we have no obligation to share the fruits of our labor and civilization.
Let them live by their own merits and capabilities, far away from us.
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3d21bb No.124108
>>123535
>>When chinks have all the best shiny stuff will you hand them your land?
>implying they do
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4f8f15 No.124111
>>124028
>Might is Right
You just keep that in mind when a dozen Jamals gang rape your puny white ass.
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ebdf41 No.124313
>>124111
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. If "a dozen Jamals" show up to rape you, are they going apologize and walk away when you tell them you're sad about what your ancestors did to the Native Americans? They don't give a fuck. Nobody gives a fuck. They're going to do what they're going to do, and either you have the physical power to stop them or you don't.
There is no moral scoreboard. There is no teacher you can tattle to. When your enemies have the "might" to do their will, they don't give a damn whether you have "right" on your side or not. And if you have the "might" to defend yourself, the "right" is similarly irrelevant. The supposed wrongs committed by your people don't enter into it at all, except as a psychological weapon they use to weaken you.
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fd3f0a No.124323
>>122992
>Why don't US liberals ever talk about indians
They're controlled. Same reason they never talk about a certain fascist apartheid state in the middle east, however they actually lose their jobs for this one though
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eee7c2 No.124329
>>124323
wtf, the Gaza strip has its own Gaza strip.
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e818a4 No.124336
>>124313
>Might is right
>Jews controlling the world
>Jews are right
Fuck off kike
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fd3f0a No.124339
>>124329
>the adventures of anon who just started learning geography
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ebdf41 No.124352
>>124336
>Jews controlling the world
>Jews are right
You're still completely hung up on this "right" thing. Jews are controlling the world, that's correct. That doesn't mean it's "right" that they do, or that it would be "wrong" to oppose them. You imagine there's some kind of moral umpire overseeing the world who we can whine to about how the Jews are cheating.
One of the very tools the Jews use to control the world is this bullshit morality that tells us to be ashamed of our ancestors' "wrongs."
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76b80b No.124715
Were you born in the 2000s? Natives were the big hot topic craze of the 70s and 80s. A shit ton of legislation got passed to uphold Amerind rights, etc. Nowadays it's more about getting football teams to change their name and the removal of Columbus Day, etc. Dark meat is on the menu right now, but the lefties will always be crying about whatever's trendy.
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9f551e No.124810
Idk why does the right working class ignore the corporate butt plug in their ass, pic related. And Trump talking $2 trillion more to take care of the "job creators".
Seriously corporations have us by the balls.
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93f1b7 No.124825
>>124111
Why would I go to a place full of Jamals? Why would I let Jews keep pushing for more Jamals to invade white lands?
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76b80b No.124841
>>124810
Gotta be a shoop … there isn't a single dick on that bathroom wall? I call shenanigans.
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7ae795 No.145289
Eloquent silence, kemosabe. How!
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4c6412 No.145316
>>122992
You answered your own question. Complaining about Natives' genocide, in which liberals were accomplishes if not the main perpetrators, would legitimize nativist and ethnonationalistic rhetoric, They focus on niggers because they are the perfect avatar for their (((rootless cosmopolitan))) model for all humanity: stupified, victimized, foreign, no national identity, no ancestral culture, provided no resistance in losing their freedom and no effort to earn it back and relying on their "enlightened White saviours" with all history linking to their ancestral past being erased and replaced with self-pity and unquenchable animosity towards those undeservingly presented as their "oppressors".
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3132415/posts
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4c6412 No.145317
>>123014
>don't feel proud for your ancestors achievementd
>but you must be punished for your ancestors misdeeds
oof
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4c6412 No.145318
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4c6412 No.145320
>>123676
Most likely we actually wuz.
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4c6412 No.145321
>>124352
Sorry for multiposting like a faggot but ^THIS.
Where do all these newfags come from that can't grasp the baseline perceptions of the board regarding "morality" with the exclusion of christfags' and borderline /x/-fags' worldviews aside?
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0758f1 No.145326
>>124352
This. The serpent tried to convince woman to partake of the knowledge of good and evil. All high IQ White children knew it was obviously talking about morality.
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