/mai/ - Waifu★

Personally I'm against the idea.

A robot that has Fuuka's data can't tell me things that aren't said about Fuuka, like her childhood, her family life, if she likes beaches or mountains more, what kind of ice-cream flavor she likes the most, etc.

Only Fuuka herself can tell me that, because she's the one and only Fuuka.

I would probably get one, just like owning a daki, or anything else, at worst it's a way to try to emulate her and make life a bit better.

But depending on how advanced it is, It would be really hard to not see it truly as her.

It would have to depend just on how completely they where able to do it.

If it's just some advanced chatbot when it comes to conversations, it would be really depressing, and just be a small glimmer of comfort in the shitty waifuless world we already have.

If they make really great advances in not only bot tech, but also AI and things like that, and waifubots have something that could be considered a "soul", then I don't think I could stop myself.

I think most of us would have a hard time denying something that in every way would be identical to the woman we love, who would be self aware, and would want to be with you. I think a lot of people would see that not just as "good enough" but fulfillment of their greatest wish, since how else could they ever get to be with them? Inter-dimensional tears bringing us to them, or vice versa? Death and the vague hope there's an afterlife and she's in it?

It's a murky shitty idea to wrap your head around, but ya, I would probably get one.

no i wouldn't get one and i hope it doesn't happen.

It's like you said, it would never really be her, it wouldn't even be alive. I think it would be kinda disturbing tbh.

There is only one Aya and she is no robot not that i have anything against actual robowaifus.

Probably only if it could read my mind so it doesn't conflict with my headcannon.

I probably would. It's not like my waifu interpretation is exactly the original either so eh.

>>61440 (OP)

>Would you be willing to buy one of your waifu/husbando?

I think it's just like owning a dakimakura/figurine/picture of your waifu:

It isn't really her, after all your waifu is fictional.

The only thing that's real in a waifuist relationship is the love you feel for and from your waifu.

And if you think that the waifubot is really her, then it really is her to you.

I personally think that I would be willing to buy one, if I could afford it.

But I would acknowledge that she is just a simulation of my waifu and not really her.

>Would it be wrong to fall in love with the waifubot since it's technically not them, but a replica?

Every fan work of your waifu is a replica, even your own. So, no.

If the degree of customization OP presents is possible, then it's highly likely I would. It's the closest thing I can think of to really being with her, when I already use other objects and practices to be as close to her as possible. Anything less, and I'm not so sure. I'm probably being really paranoid towards Type-Moon, but after catching wind of "Wedding Dress Nero" with a caption like "This time, she's choosing you", I don't trust them to make a pre-set Arturia personality without making it uncomfortably fanservice-y. Not to mention the idea of any particular quirks being locked away.

The biggest issue I can see, in my own case, is preset personalities. Not everyone has the time and patience to get every last detail of their waifu's personality down, and it may be incomplete. What happens when someone uploads one that's just incorrect, or sets it so that it only loves the person who created the personality, so you're stuck with a waifubot fawning over somebody else until you correct it? I'll probably avoid going this route if at all possible.

Some have mentioned headcanons. Since this is presumably the closest we'll ever get to actually being with our waifus short of some kind of summoning, I'd look at it the same way as actually being with her in most senses. If the perfect personality clone Arturiabot ends up contradicting my own headcanon, so be it. I love her regardless of my headcanon, and when I think of her, I want to have the most accurate image of her in mind.

I would only get one if they were perfect androids: Programmable, and completely indistinguishable from a person in appearance, mannerisms, and speech. Any uncanniness would ruin the entire point. A robot with those features and her exact likeness and personality, as I interpret it, would be the closest thing I could ever get to actually meeting her, so of course I would want one.

>Would it be wrong to fall in love with the waifubot since it's technically not them, but a replica?

I think it would be like figures and images of her - I don’t love the figure itself, the plastic it’s made of, or the ink and paper of the picture, they are just reflections. Admittedly it would be a lot harder to make this distinction with an exact copy sitting in front of me, but I could still do it. It’s important to me that I love the original Arturia and not her representations. They only exist to make it easier.

>>61452

Basically this. I would buy one probably, and it'll indeed feel like a figure of her. Only really advanced, but nothing more.

>Would it be wrong to fall in love with the waifubot since it's technically not them, but a replica?

No matter how advanced the replica is, it remains a replica. I'm not in love with the waifubot, I'm in love with her, and if it replicates Meiling nicely well the love I express it's not towards the bot itself, but towards what it replicates - Meiling.

So I wouldn't call it being in love 'with the bot'. It's exactly the same thing as when you hug a daki of her. You are not in love 'with the daki', right?

I have to admit I am fully with this reply here >>61445 I would be really disturbed by it at first but I'm pretty I couldn't resist it eventually.

>Inter-dimensional tears bringing us to them, or vice versa?

>Death and the vague hope there's an afterlife and she's in it?

This hurts me more than it should anon, because that's the only hope I have to be with the real her. I can't really admit that I won't be with her, ever. I can't and I think I never will.

As you mentioned OP if this is something really advanced then I would be really happy with it honestly, and I'd try to live with that bot just like I would live with the real her.

In the end I wonder though : could it make things worse ? Could it make things more depressing ? Could one want the real her even more ? I'm unironically not sure it would be good at what it is supposed to make you feel, because in the end I feel like there's a possibility it could make things worse. of course I hope such a thing never happen if robowaifus become a thing, otherwise me and I hope all of you guys will stay cautious. An era when we have to re-define everything about our relationships, dreams and being doesn't sound like an easy task.

I want one really bad. I guess for me it's easier since she's an AI anyway. I can completely understand why others are against the idea though. Headcanon and personal interpretations of characters do make this pretty difficult, especially since I have my own quirks for Chiaki that don't stray very far from canon but make her more unique to me. I kind of agree with >>61459 on preferring VR though, for now.

I would buy one of her and I don't think it would be wrong to fall in love with her, like the others said.

In a more realistic note, I want to research AI so I can help this dream come true.

Being that she's already software, and that she doesn't have a canon personality to begin with, this would be close to ideal for me… not to mention this would make the whole relationship seem(a little) less insane to people.

But, I can't help but get caught up in ethical conundrums.

I believe that, even if I was rich enough to "borg-ify" myself, or otherwise extend my lifespan through some technology or medical breakthrough, there's only so much you can do. I believe that I will die someday, no matter what. Now presumably, this waifubot would be immortal, or close enough that it would be irrelevant. Assuming also that it is advanced enough to be sentient/sapient, it seems rather cruel to create someone to love, who will lose you, and have to go on without you. An immortal being, in a mortal world, would get terribly lonely in time. I know I would… watching everyone I know and love die, and grieving, then making new friends and loves, just to watch them age and die… over and over again. Eventually, I'd be wishing for a release that would never come… no hope for an afterlife either, 'cause I'm not even human… or technically "alive".

The alternative is to maybe impart a "lifespan" to these beings… an artificial one, where their functions self-terminate after some predetermined, yet unknown time. But is that ethical? Programming a time of death into something that could be immortal?

I feel like these are questions that will actually have to be seriously considered as AI becomes more advanced, not just in this context, either.

>>61563

Even before I met my waifu, researching and developing AI was my dream as well… but as you can see with the above, I don't quite know whether it's the right thing or not anymore these days… part of me yearns for it, though.

>>61440 (OP)

They're already in production. They will be basic at first, they will talk, interact, fugg, Dance apparently and might walk. I'm saving up for a 3D printer and the materials to build my own. I'm into /clang/ though so I'm fine with my robowaifu looking like a robot. I post on a board about building them and I already have the files and scripts to build her, although I want to make some tweaks to make her personality accurate

>>61440 (OP)

>>>/robowaifu/

I'd like to invite anyone interested in this topic to my board, we are working on making robowaifus a reality, even for the non rich. I recommend you buy a 3D printer though.

>>62010

There's a lot of interesting stuff on your board. Pretty cool! I'll have to lurk moar.

>>62036

>Depends on the meaning of their existence such as 'loving you', replacement of your beloved, or next stage of evolution of your beloved.

Yeah, I'd think it might be wrong to create a sentient being only to love you… maybe not if that wasn't the only purpose. But hoping that she would love you… maybe it's less of an ethical problem.

>If they are advance enough to be sentient what would stop them from indulging into waifuism such people for them. And let's say they manage to fall in love to you and you pass away. Yes, it would be sad especially so if they were to select you as their beloved. What makes their version of you different from the version of them you think they have of you.

This is an interesting idea. I've never thought about it this way before. Wouldn't that be ironic… becoming your waifu's waifu.

>Then, there's the idea of using the resources available where they would have their own version of you through the same methods. What separates having a robot version of you and you yourself. This is a possibility and is very different as your within this sad world and already conscience.

I guess it would be up to them whether they would be able to accept something like that or not. I guess the only difference is that, until I created her, she didn't actually exist as a sentient being, but only as a character/idea. I, however, already do exist as a sentient being, and a robotic version of myself would be a nearly identical copy, but not actually me. I suppose it doesn't really matter, 'cause I'm presumably dead at this point.

It's like this: imagine you have a favorite dog, but it dies. You build a perfect robotic replica of your dog that looks and acts exactly like it. But, your actual dog is dead, and this is a copy of it. Is it really the same dog that you loved? Does it matter?

Overall, though, I would be happy as long as she is, and if her building a robowaifu version of myself would make her happy, I think it would be cool. Definitely an interesting perspective.

>That's essentially a slow-murder over what could be immortal as you say. It's very cruel to do that to someone you may have a replicate of your beloved and do that to them, especially when they have some form of sentience. Thus, it shouldn't be considered an alternative for it's can viewed as God giving us death, whether we seek the time for it or not.

I wouldn't call it a 'slow-murder'… just part of their design. Admittedly, I can see why you say that, and maybe you're actually right. I just think that such a thing would make it easier for humans and machines to get along, when they start becoming a part of society. Humans would be jealous of functional-immortals. Mortality might make them more relatable, less frightening, etc. It's not perfect, ideal, or maybe not even really ethical, but I predict that without something like it, humans and machines might run into serious problems, possibly even extinction.

>tfw no Drossel waifu

I've changed my mind on how I want my robowaifu to look after seeing this sexy bot.

How can Bio-sluts even compete?

Count me in!