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WARNING! Free Speech Zone - all local trashcans will be targeted for destruction by Antifa.

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 No.67944

will mr hoppe so to speak physically remove me from ancap if i will be not married?

 No.67945

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>>67944

Are you high?

There might be married-couples-only gated communities, but most people would probably end up married in an AnCap society anyways. Not all of course, autists, socialists, pedophiles (I know I repeated myself), HIV carriers, and other undesirables will probably still be single because they're undesirable, but even they'll have artificial wombs assuming the artificial womb company doesn't deny them service out of fear for how the child will be raised. People will probably get married at a younger age more frequently, and fertility/fidelity value will rise exponentially with the advent of the strange idea of people being responsible for their actions while sexual value will drop to an all-time low between waifubots, cat girls for domestic ownership, and prostitution. Private counseling services and religious communities will be great at fixing broken marriages as well.

tl;dr- No, you won't be physically removed. They can't physically remove you if you were never allowed in the community to begin with.


 No.67951

>>67945

what about hebephiles?


 No.67962

>>67951

Disregard everything he said. In the specific case of hebephiles only, totally unrelated to all other groups mentioned, you will indeed be physically removed.


 No.67969

>>67962

im commie now


 No.67971

>>67969

I don't have a dog in this fight, but -

You can theoretically have your hebephile community. However if the community next door consists of radical baptists who decide that pedo violates the nap, then you'll either need 20 m1 Abrams to defend yourself, or you'll have to pay other people to defend you. If all your surrounding neighbors decide you violate the nap then you're doomed.


 No.67994

>>67971

so the NAP is basically whatever I want it to be, and I can choose at anytime whether someone has aggressed on me?


 No.67996

>>67994

That statement was, well,

>Dude monarchy isn't always 100% autocracy, sometimes we just decide to ignore the ruler's rules for whatever reason

>Representative democracy isn't really so and so, the leader can step down and they could bullshit someone else into his place

>Communism isn't really worker's ownership of the production, maybe the mob can just ignore the whole bourgeoisie thing for a while and hire factory owners if they need


 No.68002

>>67994

Hmm. AnCap would probably have a voltunary United Nations (UVC - United Voluntary Communities) which would define exactly what the NAP was in order to protect other member communities (they would pool their resources together to maintain a military or something). The rights of pedophiles has been debated. The overarching question is whether a child can ever consent, and if they can't consent, then a battery/rape is committed. My personal opinion is that children cannot consent. I also don't believe that teenagers should consent for optimal psychological reasons. I would set consent for sexual activity at 18 for a competent adult (even though there is legitimate argument for between 16-18). For an incompetent adult, then probably never, given the potential for abuse. It would depend on what that fraternal alliance equivalent to the UN would decide.


 No.68038

>>67994

The NAP is (usually) clearly defined and always applicable. In the theoretical scenario listed above, both parties might be interpreting the NAP the exact same way and the only question is one of who can applicably give consent. Don't try to start an argument on consent I won't respond to it and it's not worth your time to have the same conversation for the 50th time. For all social purposes the NAP is being applied. For most practical purposes, the NAP is being applied because both sides legitimately believe they're enforcing the NAP. The only question is whether the actual literal theory is being applied or not since aggression is taking place. I know >>67996 was joking but it actually is a case of:

>"Dude this is what the theory says and we think it will be applied in 99.9% of situations, but like swindlers and outlaws, we can't control the 0.1% of externalities that could occur that would be NAP violations. That's a Utopian way of thinking."

>"Babe, just because we live in the safest city in the world doesn't mean you should leave your handfun at home. Keep it with you in case something DOES happen."

>>68002

You'd be more likely to have it be the decisions of judges with maybe a regional or international ethics board that reviews court cases from time to time. People voluntarily follow a court in the first place in an AnCap society (they can ignore the court at their own risk of being "excommunicated" from the community unless they can provide evidence for why the court is full of shit). You aren't going to get a pseudo-global-minarchy in the form of a UN-Lite Edition.


 No.68066

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>>67969

Welcome to the struggle.


 No.68085

>>68066

The struggle against reality?


 No.68178

>>68085

biology proves there is nothing wrong in being a hebe


 No.68179

>>68178

Biology also tells us to binge eat, pick fights with people when hungry, chain smoke/binge drink, and rape in order to spread your progeny.

Biology isn't always right.


 No.68180

>>68179

biology doesn't tell you to do any of that though.


 No.68240

>>68179

>rape in order to spread your progeny.

nope

protip: not every woman someone rapes is fertile during that time


 No.68985

>>67971

what about individual rights and freedom?




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