No.104358
Greetings. Gentlemen after reading >>104292 it has come to my attention, that compared to the other corners of the political compass, we In the libertarian right, have taken a back seat, in terms of relevance in the culture war. While our memes are pretty good (except for the occasional boomer memes), and our arguments are both solid and morally consistent, we nether bring in the numbers, nor command the mutual respect/resentment, nor have the gravitas, that we truly deserve. that being said, all of this may not actually be a bad thing in the grand scheme of things.
One advantage that we do have, is that none of the other ideologies are paying much attention to us, stormfags are too focused on cultural Marxism, and Antifa (and seem to be under the impression that we are their allies, which for the time being, we can play along with till the time is right to betray them), while commies are too focused on bashing the fash, and trying to meme. They don't think we are a real threat, meaning the worst we'll ever get is the occasional child sex slave joke. Once a Ron Paul type runs for president, in one of the two main parties (which will probably happen 2024),we strike, making it known to the world that the 3rd largest ideology in america truly does have real political power. And with a fuck load of Buzzfeed articles, calling us the bane of humanity, we solidify ourselves as an ideology in ascendancy, like what the stormfags did with trump. Basically we should use our position as a 3rd wheel faction to pull a Blackbeard at Marineford, pardon my One Piece metaphor/reference(although, If /pol/tards can get away with Dragon Ball reference, what with their "hidden power levels", why not do the same?).
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No.104361
>>104358
I mean, Adam Kokesh, the shill ancap, is running for president (LP of course) in 2020. How do you suggest we actually make ourselves known through a conduit like that? How do we "strike"?
>seem to be under the impression that we are their allies, which for the time being, we can play along with till the time is right to betray them
That says pretty gay-ops. Also, I don't think antifa considers ancaps allies.
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No.104362
>>104361
I mean If we are going about using a 3rd party, than we'll get little success, we need one of the two major party (probably Republican). Also for the best that our guy isn't some Pinochet fetishist, since we do need to convince members, of the general public to vote for him if he's at least gonna win the primaries.
> I don't think antifa considers ancaps allies.
Was talking about /pol/ alt right types. they always use the Gadsden flag, black and yellow colors and keep insisting on "uniting" with us.
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No.104364
>>104362
Okay, but you didn't answer my question: How do you suggest we actually make ourselves known through a conduit like that? How do we "strike"?
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No.104365
>>104364
we strike by making a shit load of OC shilling that candidate and shitting on the other candidates.
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No.104366
>>104365
Among other things, like arguing with socialists online and making YouTube videos in support of that candidate. like the "you cant stump the trump" videos
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No.104367
>>104358
This op is pretty damn sad
>zomg statists r winning
no.
Statists can't win virtually by definition. Every time a nation turns towards central planning and redistribution, which they eventually do due to the incentive structure of the state itself, it collapses (usually within a century).
Freedom outcompetes and outlasts statism, but a state, once established, is a tumor that can only grow. You're not going to do anything useful by supporting a politician that wants to steal slightly less of your money.
The real question is, how do we build and maintain structures outside of state control which can prevent a descent into chaos once the state inevitably devours itself.
So if you're an American:
>defend gun rights
>form a militia
>form a neighborhood watch
>support crypto
>support regionalist/secessionist movements
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No.104372
>>104367
You bring up a lot of good points.
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No.104373
>>104367
By "win the culture war", I meant against other radical Ideologies, rn the alt kike and pinkos have taken center stage in political discourse, and are using that to polarize people to their side, that Is something we should take for ourselves, to spread and teach ideas of Austrian economics, and free market anarchism, to as many people as possible (since lots of Americans are really economically illiterate). Getting someone elected who will fix everything isn't the point (our dude will probably not keep most of his promises), the point is to give someone who advocates lolbertarianism momentum, so that people, retarded late night hosts, and News anchors start paying attention to us, so that we can sling shot ourselves into political relevance. Although Getting someone elected would be a fun way to give the Keynesians and federal reserve faggots a good right hook, and it would still be nice to have a president who understands economics as oppose to some socialist cunt (their tweets will probably be really based too, which will help us propagandize)
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No.104380
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Another shit thread about Americans acting like they're the only country in the world and talking about narrow-minded strategies to win some election. If you want to win any war, you don't exclude your allies, and you don't divide your forces into easily digestable groups for our enemies to gobble up.
Horrifyingly stupid thread, think a bit bigger than playing the democratic games of your evil empire.
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No.104381
>>104373
wtf is that picture ):<
But seriously now; politics is a steaming pile of shit for morons to fuck around in. Don't get into it unless you want to waste a bunch of time and achieve nothing.
If you want to convince people of the validity of your positions you do it by talking to them while being well put together; become someone people respect and look up to and all of a sudden everyone will want to listen to you. Look at JB Peterson, the guy exploded into the culture not by
>getting someone elected
but rather by being so formidable you can't help but respect him.
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No.104382
>>104381
This. It's not so much about what you say, as where you are coming from.
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No.104384
>>104381
I guess you're kinda right, in that talking to people is necessary to convince them of your position, but talking to people on its own just isn't enough, since you'll only ever have so many people you can talk to, if nobody knows who you are. Even JB Peterson had some big even that increased his bounty, In his case It was that video where some tranny tried to "confront" him, after that he was able to expand his influence and gain more people to talk to, and convince to his side. Unless you are able to do something newsworthy, the most you'll get is a handful of 30 people to listen to you talk in a room, and what Is more news worthy than a highly controversial, year long event that is basically the only thing, most people/news outlets talk about for that year? I guarantee that people like Milo or Ben Shapiro would be nobodies if leftist tweens weren't there to smear blood on their faces, push the fire alarm, and violently riot in the streets.
>also lol, Spanish empire never accomplished anything noteworthy and only existed to get rekt by silver inflation. y'all niggas ain't ever getting Gibraltar back
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No.104717
>>104384
Well yes, exposure is good, but ultimately I think virtue has to come first.
I think being virtuous in a society that's high on virtue signalling and victim worship attracts attention on its own; after all, as you said, the reason why this new generation of conservative commentators has surged is because of how they stand in the face of so much unreasonable opposition.
>also implying the people in Gibraltar arent a distillation of everything wrong with anglos
>implying we want that in Spain
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No.104720
by not being direct or preachy
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No.105062
Strategy: you have to win over some attractive women and have them as advocates (not necessarily figureheads)
Even if they are just repeating entry-level talking points rehashed from other people.
The presence of women helps legitimize movements from being "some weird internet sausage fest thing" to legitimate mass movement. I am not saying go full identity politics retardation, just that women are perceived as a stabilizing/less-extreme force generally and subconsciously. Hot chick openly shilling ancap and purple quadrant ideology -> less chance that other libertarians can be dismissed as "that weird incel guy who keeps talking about mises"
It's stupid but it is how human psychology works.
How do you think nationalists got so much traction in 2016-2017? Ecelebs like Lauren Southern, Faith Goldy, etc
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No.105128
>>105062
lauren southern etc. are the perfect example of why not to do that. the people that watched her didn't give a shit about what she said and just wanted to jack off, women always just create drama and undermine a movement. what we need is a charismatic guy with a lot of knowledge on the subject who's willing to go mainstream like ron paul.
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No.105137
>>105062
I totally agree.
>>105128
And of course the incels arrive.
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No.105144
>>105137
>hurr durr you’re incel
Nice bait.
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No.105146
>>105137
>we need hot women with big tits in our movement instead of smart men
<no
>lol incel
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No.105190
>>105062
You realize you'd be inviting a bunch of grifters right? Hell some of those women don't acutally believe in what they say they just do it for a quick buck.
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No.105192
>>105190
>some of those women don't acutally believe in what they say they just do it for a quick buck
Who cares? It's called division of labour. The guys with the money pay the girls with the big tits to say the right things, in the end everyone wins. Honestly, give me one reason why I should be bothered by this.
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No.105196
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No.105198
>>105196
Is that supposed to prove something? We need everyone in on this, I don't care if 90% of the movement is just hot sluts and their betacuck orbiters. The more talking heads we have spreading the word, the better.
>Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have
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No.105210
>>105198
>hey guys how do we build a respectable, intellectually formidable movement?
<just hire a bunch of thots with big tits to give speeches lol
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No.105216
>>105210
Ironically, everyone knows the battle theme of Flash Gordon even if no one has seen the movie. Memes are so useful in the culture war for similar reasons- people like memes even if they don't understand a lick of the politics, and will meme things into reality for shits and giggles without understanding the consequences: see Boaty McBoatface.
I'm not saying libertarians are the only intelligent ones, there's plenty of intelligent people across the political spectra. I'm just saying the vast majority of normalfags could fuck off and society would continue to function with very minor fluctuations in the hands of that 20-30% of the ant colony with an inner voice. That's where the whole NPC meme comes from.
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No.105217
>>105216
Put another way, I only want to share society with the people who watch T.V. and have to put in a mental effort to binge instead of being able to do so for hours without pause. Normalcattle spewing libertarian memes make it easier to find like-minded people. Get learned, yo'
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