/kind/ - Random Acts of Kindness★

Sounds awesome anon! Don't be afraid to share your writings!

I got no writings myself besides school shit and few papers I wrote for a few vidya ideas.

(not OP)

here are couple of pages of a novel i was working on half a year ago.

try to ignore the sloppy handwriting and tell me what you think.

>>33574

Perhaps I should first get started on the writing part before thinking about sharing them. I'm still not sure who'd be interested in reading my writings though. Especially since there is no target audience if I write for writing's sake.

>>33578

>I like to write stories. It takes a while to git gud though. Sometimes I'll write something and think it's breddy gud, but then I look back on it and see that it was kind of shit. So don't get discouraged if what you write isn't good to start out.

I'm not sure when I'd qualify as good. If I am satisfied with my writing, isn't this enough already in and of itself? If I ever managed to gather an audience, would keeping them content mean that I'm a good writer?

Just think about good authors. Who's a good author? Someone who writes good books. Twilight, Harry Potter, etcpp, if writing those books makes me a good author I'd rather be a bad one, yet those are very popular books that made their author's known and wealthy. Interestingly enough those esteemed authors will be forgotten soon, without any impact.

If I take a look at the authors I admire, only few of them managed to become popular within their lifetime, and even those that did exceeded that popularity in death severalfold. The implications for a fast lived easy paced society like ours are immense. Today no one would care about a dead nobody's writings anymore, there is no chance for him becoming a well read author post mortem. If someone like Kafka, I'll mention him later on again, lived today his writings would be forgotten already before they ever got a chance to get traction. Think on that for a second.

>8/lit/ also has some helpful threads if you're interested.

I might check it out. Is /lit/ even slower than kind?

>>33585

I've read all of it. It's hard to judge from such a short piece, what length was it you aimed for for the novel as a whole? I wager at least 20-100+ pages, and I'd not judge any of the books I like by the first 5 pages tbh.

Character development, pacing, world design/environment/mood, plot consistency; - everything that makes a novel what it is, is basically not set yet.

What's left is the use of words and grammar in principle, the more technical part. I'd say you could easily write a novel, and given talent also a good one at that.

>explicit language

Maybe that's just me, but in general I dislike that. If it fits the idea you were going for with the main character it is fine though, it only becomes a problem when every other character starts talking like a sailor for no reason.

>>33589

>>33592

I wouldn't judge a text by that. Here have a page handwritten by Kafka, arguably a good author. It is terrible, even specialists are sometimes unsure what this or that word in Kafka's writings is supposed to mean. Interestingly enough he was very fond of handwriting, and wished for his works to be only read in the original hand writing.

>>33578

>What sort of things do you write, anon?

I still have to get into it. I was thinking about writing a couple of short stories to get started. There is no theme that I'd have in mind yet.

>feel free to share, and maybe some of us can give critique.

I'm not sure if that would be of any use, since I do not plan on writing in English. In fact I despise English as a language but that would be a whole different topic. Thanks for the offer though :3

>>33573 (OP)

I used to write poetry when I was younger, peaking around my early 20s. Haven't picked up the pen for the past five, six, seven or so years.

Used to be my existential outlet, a means of screaming out into the world in a subtle manner as so not to disturb it. Eventually I grew overwhelmingly frustrating with the lack of ability to find connection with the limited audience I had, who only ever seemed impressed by it as though it were a pretty picture and not something to engage with and response to. That was before I took everything offline and stopped writing.

I could find and share what I have written but it might not have any meaning to you. One suggestion would be to share your writing here in this thread via something like http://pasted.co/, which is like pastebin but has text formatting options

>>33673

>I don't see what that has to do with Marxism. Right-wing literature pushes an agenda too.

In Marxism there is the strong conviction that everything, literally every part of life, is a political statement and nothing but that, and that therefore all the arts have to first and foremost advance the agenda of marxism. If you believe that there is such a thing as beauty, which you should not as a good marxist, then it exists only as a means to the end, the socialist world government, the deconstruction of man and erection of the new socialist man.

This idea did not exist in pre French Revolution Europe.

>. If your work doesn't affect your reader in some way, be it emotionally, intellectually, or aesthetically, then you've written something boring.

mh. You're right.

> Although it does make it easier to reach a higher standard of literature when you have people to read your work and provide feedback, otherwise you're stuck in the echo chamber of your own thoughts.

That's what I'm afraid of, yes.

>>33674

Tell me about your audience, how did you find it? How did you interact?

>I could find and share what I have written but it might not have any meaning to you.

I'd read it. What were you writing about?

>One suggestion would be to share your writing here in this thread

>>33650

>I'm not sure if that would be of any use, since I do not plan on writing in English.

I could of course give it a shot in English, but I doubt that I myself could relate to that much

>>33747

Art as we know it is an invention of the French revolution. Before there was only design, everything that looked good was just decoration on something that was actually used for something. Art as something worthy in itself, something to be contemplated and torn out of the flow of time to be preserved for eternity in museums was the result of the revolution.

If what you say about Marxism is true, which I seriously doubt, then Marxism should be seen as a return to the pre-French revolution state, not the continuation of it.

>>33759

>Art as we know it is an invention of the French revolution. Before there was only design, everything that looked good was just decoration on something that was actually used for something. Art as something worthy in itself, something to be contemplated and torn out of the flow of time to be preserved for eternity in museums was the result of the revolution.

I think one has to have been exposed to academia, directly or indirectly, a lot to actually believe something so detached from reality. Art as a form of deconstructing culture and actual value is the result of the revolution. If one were to assume that only this filth is art, then yes, then art would be a product of the revolution. But in that case you should also hate "art".

>f what you say about Marxism is true, which I seriously doubt

On what basis? It alligns perfectly with every major marxist construct, I did not even make it up myself, it is just a bastardised quote from Brecht I read years ago, and inside the marxist asylum of thought it is reasonable.

So what forms of art did the revolution invent? Literature? All kinds of poetry exist since there is written account, was Ovid not an artist? Painting? The sictie chapel is probably the worthiest and most famous in this regard, and is a bit older than the Revolution. Music? Haydn? Opera comes up in the renaissance, dance and song was very popular in the middle ages, there are even accounts of it as an art in antiquity, not even getting started on tales like the one from Orpheus being a testament to the way people respected and appreciated it as exactly that, art, a touch of the divine. I just fail to see here, like everywhere else, where there is a single good thing the revolution has brought about in this regard.

>>33763

>I think one has to have been exposed to academia to actually believe something so detached from reality

>>33747

>Tell me about your audience, how did you find it?

Poetry websites, mostly. At different times I was in touch with people who wanted to publish things I had written but cannot really remember how those things presented itself. There are words I wrote at one point floating about there somewhere among different little publications with their own audiences but I never really had any contact with the various readers.

Much like here, now, I kept myself pseudonymous at best and over the years tended to rather frequently done one "identity" to start without some meaningless popularity attributed to a username as a means of hoping to be able to break into some form of dialogue with those reading and commenting but it never really worked out that way.

>I'd read it. What were you writing about?

Life inside and outside of my head, mostly.

Those two .pdf files were all that I could find of my writing. Everything else is gone, I guess.

This thread seems to have taken a political turn, unfortunately.