bba610 No.33434
You got some nice spooks in that book mahmud. Would like to see them taken down.
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8e8904 No.33438
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aa86fa No.33442
>>33434
Every time a Stirner meme is posted, God kills a kitten.
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d55ba0 No.33443
The belief in spooks is in and of itself a spook, because it ignores the symbiotic nature of ideas thus leading you to act against your self interest. Stirnerism is nothing but a self-harming delusion.
Islam is the enlightened self-interest. It is not God that benefits from our worship, it is us, we are the feeble dependents.
<They said, "Our Lord, we have wronged ourselves, and if You do not forgive us and have mercy upon us, we will surely be among the losers."
[Qur'an 7:23]
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220872 No.33454
>>33434
Have you even read Stirner? . See the latter part of >>33443
>>33443
Spooks - being ideas or concepts we place above our individual interests - cannot in themselves be spooky. It is the relationship to ideas and concepts rather than the fact they are concepts and ideas themselves that makes a thing spooky or not.
Even if a lot of people in Muslim community might be spooked Stirnerist style egoism is compatible with Islam
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8b4f5f No.33456
>>33434
>good and bad are spooks
>it's bad to be spooked
yikes!
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8b4f5f No.33457
>>33454
>Stirnerist style egoism is compatible with Islam
Islam demands you submit your will to Allah's will in a genuine master-slave relation, Stirner suggests you place your will above all, including God, state, family, morality, and only use those categories to serve your own ends, not for their own sakes.
A stirnerist muslim would only obey Allah in a selfish, inauthentic and egoistic way, insofar as his desires are served, not for the sake and glory of Allah, but for the sake and glory of his personal ego and thirsts.
Stirner said the self/ego is the highest and most sacred thing there is, even above God and all else:
"Sacred things exist only for the egoist who does not acknowledge himself, the involuntary egoist [unfreiwilligen Egoisten], for him who is always looking after his own and yet does not count himself as the highest being, who serves only himself and at the same time always thinks he is serving a higher being."
God would see through this facade and even the voluntary egoist would realize he is being duplicitous and false.
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877359 No.33459
>>33457
If a stirnerist worships Allah and abandons haram things his ego wants, then he isnt stirnerist by definition, if he does things his ego wants and puts his desire above the shariah, then he is a kaffir.
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d55ba0 No.33470
>>33454
>Spooks - being ideas or concepts we place above our individual interests - cannot in themselves be spooky.
Yes they can, because the implication of the spook is that the spook is bad, that idea in and of itself is an act against your interest.
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d55ba0 No.33471
>>33457
>A stirnerist muslim would only obey Allah in a selfish, inauthentic and egoistic way, insofar as his desires are served, not for the sake and glory of Allah, but for the sake and glory of his personal ego and thirsts.
Firstly like >>33459 said you can't have a stirnerist Muslim.
Secondly it is impossible for mankind to obey Allah in the manner you described, we are not angels, we were simply not designed like that. Do you think anyone would worship God if He had not created heaven and hell? Of course not it makes no sense.
>"Sacred things exist only for the egoist who does not acknowledge himself, the involuntary egoist [unfreiwilligen Egoisten], for him who is always looking after his own and yet does not count himself as the highest being, who serves only himself and at the same time always thinks he is serving a higher being."
The problem with this quote isn't in the acknowledgement of egoism as the modus-operandi of a human but in the arrogance on display, Islam teaches us that such arrogance is an attempt to challenge God and as such is an action against our interest.
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8b4f5f No.33489
>>33471
works based salvation promotes egoism, that's a problem.
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9d9540 No.33494
>>33434
my problem with stirnerism is that morality is just self-preservation instinct. morality exists to serve your interests and to protect your survival.
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d55ba0 No.33496
>>33489
No, why would it be? It's fair that you are rewarded for adhering to specification.
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d55ba0 No.33497
>>33494
What? Stirnerism is a morality. It ascribes 'bad' and 'good' to things.
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d55ba0 No.33498
Did this thread get bump locked?
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477763 No.33671
leftypol larpers are autistic and is in need of a journey to the void where there is no return.
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