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File: 702057ac3cfa910⋯.jpg (44.41 KB, 359x500, 359:500, The_Patent_of_Mohammed.jpg)

8f7215  No.31872

>This is a letter which was issued by Mohammed, Ibn Abdullah, the Messenger, the Prophet, the Faithful, who is sent to all the people as a trust on the part of God to all His creatures, that they may have no plea against God hereafter. Verily God is Omnipotent, the Wise. This letter is directed to the embracers of Islam, as a covenant given to the followers of Jesus the Nazarene in the East and West, the far and near, the Arabs and foreigners, the known and the unknown.

>This letter contains the oath given unto them, and he who disobeys that which is therein will be considered a disbeliever and a transgressor to that whereunto he is commanded. He will be regarded as one who has corrupted the oath of God, disbelieved His Testament, rejected His Authority, despised His Religion, and made himself deserving of His Curse, whether he is a Sultan or any other believer of Islam. Whenever Christian monks, devotees and pilgrims gather together, whether in a mountain or valley, or den, or frequented place, or plain, or church, or in houses of worship, verily we are [at the] back of them and shall protect them, and their properties and their morals, by Myself, by My Friends and by My Assistants, for they are of My Subjects and under My Protection.

>I shall exempt them from that which may disturb them; of the burdens which are paid by others as an oath of allegiance. They must not give anything of their income but that which pleases them—they must not be offended, or disturbed, or coerced or compelled. Their judges should not be changed or prevented from accomplishing their offices, nor the monks disturbed in exercising their religious order, or the people of seclusion be stopped from dwelling in their cells.

>No one is allowed to plunder these Christians, or destroy or spoil any of their churches, or houses of worship, or take any of the things contained within these houses and bring it to the houses of Islam. And he who takes away anything therefrom, will be one who has corrupted the oath of God, and, in truth, disobeyed His Messenger.

>Jizya should not be put upon their judges, monks, and those whose occupation is the worship of God; nor is any other thing to be taken from them, whether it be a fine, a tax or any unjust right. Verily I shall keep their compact, wherever they may be, in the sea or on the land, in the East or West, in the North or South, for they are under My Protection and the testament of My Safety, against all things which they abhor.

>As to those who possess properties, the wealthy and merchants, the poll-tax to be taken from them must not exceed twelve drachmas a head per year (i.e. about 200 modern day US dollars).

>They shall not be imposed upon by anyone to undertake a journey, or to be forced to go to wars or to carry arms; for the Muslims have to fight for them. Do no dispute or argue with them, but deal according to the verse recorded in the Quran, to wit: ‘Do not dispute or argue with the People of the Book but in that which is best’ [29:46]. Thus they will live favored and protected from everything which may offend them by the Callers to religion (Islam), wherever they may be and in any place they may dwell.

>Should any Christian woman be married to a Muslim, such marriage must not take place except after her consent, and she must not be prevented from going to her church for prayer. Their churches must be honored and they must not be withheld from building churches or repairing convents.

>They must not be forced to carry arms or stones; but the Muslims must protect them and defend them against others. It is positively incumbent upon every one of the follower of Islam not to contradict or disobey this oath until the Day of Resurrection and the end of the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtiname_of_Muhammad

Thoughts? What are the perspectives of Islam on this?

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8658dc  No.31873

>>31872

We're fully aware of it. What did you want to know?

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152843  No.31878

I would like to know if it's authentic, but it's pretty close to the traditional treatment of the abrahamics.

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152843  No.31882

Did some searching, things to consider:

>it is not an original, but an alleged copy of an alleged original likely from the 16th century.

>sinai wasn't under muslim control in 632 yet so no contact with the church of sinai

>jizyah is lifted, but the quran says otherwise

>no authentic chain back to the prophet (pbuh)

>hand print is disproportionate and is not a human hand but is drawn

>It is written in the Ruq'ah script, which is a very late development in the Arabic script:

Verdict: Probably a forgery

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ccf760  No.31884

>>31878

True but >>31882 points otherwise. I don't remember jizyah will ever be lifted.

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152843  No.31891

>>31884

I'm the same person, check I.Ds

xD

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ccf760  No.31900

>>31891

Fug. I should let IDs be coloured

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6fa955  No.33297

>>31882

>hand print is disproportionate and is not a human hand but is drawn

Well if it's a copy…

>sinai wasn't under muslim control in 632 yet so no contact with the church of sinai

>no control <=> no contact

really ?

>jizyah is lifted, but the quran says otherwise

Yeah, but Quran jizya was about muslim controlled areas, which, according to you, Sinai wasn't part of. So I don't see the problem.

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152843  No.33312

>>31900

Yeah good idea.

>>33297

>Well if it's a copy…

A copy of a supposed hand print, which has the wrong proportions. Also there's no seal of the prophet (pbuh).

>no control <=> no contact

>Yeah, but Quran jizya was about muslim controlled areas, which, according to you, Sinai wasn't part of. So I don't see the problem.

No control means no pact.Also, don't ignore the other points lol. There's no original, for all we know it's forged. The most obvious evidence is that it's written in the freaking Ruq'ah script, which is a VERY late Arabic script used during ottoman times. Sinai wasnt even in the radar during 632 sinai was under the BYZANTINE ROMANS and Muhammad (pbuh) was sick and just died. The jizyah CAN NEVER be lifted until Jesus (pbuh) comes back according to hadith, since there will be full war on ahl kitab will only have the right to convert. We are muslims, we don't follow desires, especially NOT when it's a claimed saying of the prophet (pbuh), whoever makes up false sayings will be in hell. There is no authentic chain back to the prophet (pbuh).

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